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Full Show Podcast: 18 February 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on early edition with one roof make your
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Speaker 2: Property search simple News Talks.
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Speaker 1: It'd be well.
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Speaker 3: Good morning to you and thank you for choosing the program.
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Speaker 3: Coming up over the next hour. In a moment our
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Speaker 3: Genesis is buying up hundreds of thousands of tons of
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Speaker 3: coal to ensure against the winter electricity crisis. You're going
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Speaker 3: to be surprised at just how dependent we still are
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Speaker 3: on that fossil fuel. We're talking to the Genesis CEO
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Speaker 3: very shortly. A new Earners Who Learn scheme aims to
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Speaker 3: get more youngsters into manufacturing. So how does it work?
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Speaker 3: That story in ten Will Australia cut interest rates today?
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Speaker 3: Donald Demeyo just after the fivethirty news and the big
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Speaker 3: Ukraine summit is today. We will take you live to
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Speaker 3: France for the latest just before six. We're gonna have
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Speaker 3: correspondence from right around the world and this country will
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Speaker 3: have news as it breaks. You can contribute by texting.
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Speaker 3: The number is ninety two to ninety two. Small charge applies.
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Speaker 3: If you want, you can write me an email Dickens
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Speaker 3: at News Talks thereb dot co dot nz. It's coming
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Speaker 3: up eight a half to.
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Speaker 1: Five the agenda.
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Speaker 3: It is Tuesday, the eighteenth of February. First to Paris,
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Speaker 3: where European leaders have been gathering at the Elise Palace
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Speaker 3: for an emergency meeting. Leaders will discuss national security concerns
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Speaker 3: ahead of a meeting between US officials and Russia. That
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Speaker 3: meeting happening in Saudi Arabia.
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Speaker 4: I can't think of a meeting with such high profile
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Speaker 4: people making there way to Paris organized as quickly as
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Speaker 4: this has been, and yet French officials really doing all
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Speaker 4: they can not to look rattled. We've been hearing yesterday
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Speaker 4: Becky from the French Foreign Minister, to speak on French
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Speaker 4: radio saying, look, these meetings happen all the time. In
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Speaker 4: Manuar Marco himself tweeting that this was an informal meeting.
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Speaker 3: And while that's happening in Paris, Russian Foreign Minister Sir
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Speaker 3: Guy Levov is flying to Saudi Arabia to meet US officials.
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Speaker 3: He says there's no role for Europe in any peace talks.
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Speaker 5: Trump has already shown that he's quite supported of the
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Speaker 5: Russian side. He's shown empathy for the reasons of the invasion.
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Speaker 5: He's called Putin a genius and he himself, since he
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Speaker 5: came back to office, has been an expansionist. He's talked
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Speaker 5: about taking territory in Greenland, in Canada and Panama, so
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Speaker 5: him and Putin are on very much the same wavelength.
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Speaker 3: And finally to Rome where Pope Francis is being treated
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Speaker 3: for a complex clinical situation and will remain in hospital
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Speaker 3: for as long as necessary. The eighty eight year old
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Speaker 3: was admitted to Rome's Gamelli Hospital on Friday local time
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Speaker 3: to undergo treatment and tests for bronchitis. But now the
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Speaker 3: Vatican says he's got what's called polymicrobial and fiction of
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Speaker 3: his respiratory track, so they've had to change his treatment.
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Speaker 6: And of course there will be concerned given his age
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Speaker 6: and given his past conditions with lung problems. He's in
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Speaker 6: the Gemelli Hospital in Rome, which has a suite which
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Speaker 6: has used for treating Popes Francis has been treated there before.
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Speaker 3: I was in Rome last year. I can tell you
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Speaker 3: the Italians and the Romans they love Frank. It is
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Speaker 3: a nine after five.
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Speaker 2: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property Search Simple
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Speaker 2: Youth Talk said be so.
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Speaker 3: Each day I walk around my suburb, you know, the
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Speaker 3: ten thousand steps and all that gotta keep fit somehow.
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Speaker 3: And there's great excited right now, and the walk is
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Speaker 3: really entertaining because the film starring Florence Pew is shooting
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Speaker 3: in one of our streets, and the film set in
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Speaker 3: the early nineteen hundreds, So to make the local roads
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Speaker 3: look like they're from nineteen ten, they've been pouring packed
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Speaker 3: earth onto the asphalt for hundreds of meters, so the
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Speaker 3: roads look all unformed like they were back in the day.
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Speaker 3: This is a huge project. There are six diggures there,
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Speaker 3: there are trucks full of fill. There are frontend loaders,
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Speaker 3: and there are rollers, and there's an army of gardeners
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Speaker 3: who are transforming the gardens, and there's a suite of
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Speaker 3: painters who are repainting entire houses and making sure that
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Speaker 3: the color system looks like it did back in the
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Speaker 3: nineteen hundreds. And all this because someone in Hollywood decided
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Speaker 3: to throw money at it. This is overseas foreign investment
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Speaker 3: made solid and fun, and the contractors working on the
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Speaker 3: set are loving the cash. And that's what it's about.
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Speaker 3: The whole project has happened because of tax credits given
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Speaker 3: by the government to film. Some opponents of those credits say, well,
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Speaker 3: it's debatable whether the taxpayers make on the deal. But
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Speaker 3: go and talk to those contractors. Those contractors employed say
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Speaker 3: they are making on the deal. It's keeping their light
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Speaker 3: machinery business alive for another week. It's all about cash flow.
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Speaker 3: And this is a concrete example of a foreign tax
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Speaker 3: exemption making cash flow, making stuff happen in this country.
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Speaker 3: So let it happen. Let it happen all over the place,
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Speaker 3: because it works.
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Speaker 1: The count ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: Hey, So the big story today is the fact that
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Speaker 3: we're all leaving country, and not only that, it's all
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Speaker 3: the youngsters. Nearly forty percent of the Kiwis who left
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Speaker 3: the country last year were raged under thirty new migration
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Speaker 3: datis shows as New Zealand experience its largest calendar year
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Speaker 3: net loss of citizens. Could I just repeat that our
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Speaker 3: largest calendar year net loss of citizens. Seventy two thousand
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Speaker 3: citizens left the country, which more than off set the
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Speaker 3: twenty four thy nine hundred arrivals. So we're leaving, but
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Speaker 3: people aren't coming in to take their places. There was
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Speaker 3: a net migration loss there for forty seven one hundred
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Speaker 3: New Zealand citizens last year. This compares to the loss
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Speaker 3: of forty three thousand, three hundred and twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 3: No one says it's good. It's good because it is
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Speaker 3: not good. No one wants it to continue. And yes,
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Speaker 3: you could say it's always happened. I mean, I left
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Speaker 3: to try my luck overseas, but I came back because
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Speaker 3: this is still home. But this is a big number.
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Speaker 3: And these are not just ambitious people. We've always had
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Speaker 3: ambitious people leaving the country to go to, you know,
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Speaker 3: a bigger pond, to be a fish in a bigger pond.
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Speaker 3: Now these are not ambitious people. I would actually call
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Speaker 3: these people economic refugees. They're getting on a boat and
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Speaker 3: they're heading somewhere hopefully better. And you know, sometimes we
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Speaker 3: look around the world and we see the Third World
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Speaker 3: refugees leaving their countries and taking risks. But really, is
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Speaker 3: what is happening here really any different, except we're not
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Speaker 3: getting into some dodgy boat with some dodgy person. Runner. Now,
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Speaker 3: in a few minutes time, I'm going to tell you
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Speaker 3: where our engineers are at, and that's not good. And
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Speaker 3: later on Brad Olsten is on the Mike hosting breakfast
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Speaker 3: to break down the numbers for you here on NEWSTALKSB.
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Speaker 3: Now we are importing coal big time and we'll give
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Speaker 3: you the details about this. From the Genesis CEO, Malcolm John's.
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Speaker 3: He's with me next. It is thirteen after five.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on affili Edition with one roof to make
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Speaker 2: your property search simple, youth talk zivvy yep.
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Speaker 3: It's the biggest loss of people for five years. What's
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Speaker 3: your thoughts about this? Ninety two ninety two. Now, after
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Speaker 3: last year's energy shortfall, Genesis has beefed up up at
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Speaker 3: stockpile at the Huntley power station. It already has five
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Speaker 3: hundred thousand tons of coal. There's another five hundred thousand
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Speaker 3: on the way. That's a million tons of coal. All
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Speaker 3: of this just in case rain doesn't top up our
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Speaker 3: hydro lakes in time. So I'm joined now by the
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Speaker 3: Genesis Chief executive, Malcolm John's. Hello, Malcolm, good morning, How
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Speaker 3: are you good? That's an awful lot of coal. Where
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Speaker 3: do you keep it?
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Speaker 7: We pop it just out behind the power station at Huntley.
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Speaker 3: It's a big mountain of stuff.
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Speaker 7: It's a big mountain of coal.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly where do you get it from.
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Speaker 7: We bring it in from Indonesia.
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Speaker 3: Why can't you use New Zealand coal.
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Speaker 7: Well, when Huntley Power Station was built, it was built
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Speaker 7: for a very specific chemical compound of coal which was
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Speaker 7: found in the mines behind Huntley. Those mines are now
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Speaker 7: predominantly exhausted. So we can buy some New Zealand coal.
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Speaker 7: But to put that into perspective, we buy New Zealand
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Speaker 7: can supply about tea or twenty thousand tons a year,
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Speaker 7: which is well short of a million tons that we need.
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Speaker 7: So Indonesia is the only other country that has mines
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Speaker 7: with the same chemical compound of coal that Huntley needs
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Speaker 7: at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Would you describe the coal as high grade?
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Speaker 7: Yes, it is. It's less about the grade of it,
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Speaker 7: more about the way that coal is used is you
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Speaker 7: crush it into a talcum powder and it gets injected
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Speaker 7: into the furnaces, and the furnaces are designed for a
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Speaker 7: certain chemical compound of coal. When you start to move
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Speaker 7: away from that chemical compound, the furnace has become less
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Speaker 7: efficient and you get less energy or less electricity out
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Speaker 7: of every ton of coal.
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Speaker 3: So a million times of Indonesian coal. How concerned are
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Speaker 3: you about a possible energy shortfall again this year.
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Speaker 7: Well, we're doing what we can in terms of ensuring
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Speaker 7: that Huntley is able to contribute to the system. Huntley
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Speaker 7: is New Zealand's largest electricity generation site and we have
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Speaker 7: three two hundred and forty megawatt rankin units at Huntley
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Speaker 7: that produce the electricity, and those units can consume up
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Speaker 7: to nine thousand tons of coal a day when they're
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Speaker 7: running at full capacity. We had to run them at
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Speaker 7: full capacity last winter and we worked our way through
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Speaker 7: about eight hundred thousand tons of coal. So a million
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Speaker 7: tons of coal is about appropriate for what we believe
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Speaker 7: we can genuinely put through the machines.
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Speaker 3: This shows you that we just do not have enough electricity,
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Speaker 3: doesn't it. I mean, what else could we do to
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Speaker 3: actually secure our supply without having to burn the coal.
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Speaker 7: Well, I think the first thing we've got to remember
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Speaker 7: is New Zealand is roughly eighty five percent renewable electricity.
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Speaker 7: Now that's in the top five countries in the world.
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Speaker 7: And the reality of that is that we rely on
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Speaker 7: a hydro scheme and wind as big parts of those
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Speaker 7: and unfortunately, sometimes it doesn't rain and it doesn't blow
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Speaker 7: and Unfortunately, on top of that is that when it
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Speaker 7: doesn't rain, it also doesn't blow, and so there's a
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Speaker 7: correlation between rain droughts and wind droughts. Last winter we
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Speaker 7: had both a rain and a wind drought and there
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Speaker 7: just simply wasn't enough gas left in New Zealand to
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Speaker 7: back the system up.
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Speaker 3: Was Lake Onslow a missed opportunity.
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Speaker 7: Look, I think there's lots of people with different views
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Speaker 7: on how you solve this issue. I just think it's
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Speaker 7: important to remember that at eighty five percent renewable, you're
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Speaker 7: talking about roughly one or two years every five year
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Speaker 7: cycle that you need to you rely on thermal generation
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Speaker 7: to genuinely back up the system. New Zealand by twenty
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Speaker 7: thirty five will probably be around ninety five percent renewable generation.
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Speaker 7: That'll be one of the best in the world, but
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Speaker 7: we're probably likely to never get to one hundred percent
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Speaker 7: renewable generation. Genuinely. We'll need some form of them all
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Speaker 7: in the system to keep the lights on when the
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Speaker 7: rain doesn't come and the wind doesn't blow.
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Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much for your time, mates.
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Speaker 3: And that is Malcolm John's who is the CEO of
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Speaker 3: Genesis A million tons coming to keep our power on.
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Speaker 3: It's quite amazing, isn't it. And it shows you to
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Speaker 3: get to the renewable. It's an evolution, not a revolution. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 3: the big story of courses about the fact that all
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Speaker 3: our kids are leaving town and going to other countries
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Speaker 3: because of the economy. So here is a story coming
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Speaker 3: up next all about keeping kids here earning as they learn.
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Speaker 3: Details Next, it is now twenty past five.
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Speaker 2: The News you Need this morning and the in depth
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Speaker 3: Said be it's five twenty two. Thank you so much
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Speaker 3: for joining us. So hands on experience qualifications and they
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Speaker 3: get a paycheck. These are all on off as to
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Speaker 3: high school students under a new program directly connecting them
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Speaker 3: with the manufacturing industry. It's part of the effort to
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Speaker 3: reduce our skills shortage. And the pilot has launched in
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Speaker 3: the White Cattle and Advancing manufacturer. Our tail Row CEO
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Speaker 3: Catherine lies with me now Hello Catherine.
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Speaker 8: Hello, Hello Andrew, how are you?
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Speaker 3: I'm very good. How does this work?
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Speaker 8: So we yeah, so we launched the program yesterday, So
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Speaker 8: we welcomed twenty students into the thirty week program. And
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Speaker 8: so it really started, I'll sort of take a step back.
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Speaker 8: It really started as out as a seed of an
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Speaker 8: idea a couple of years ago between a group of
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Speaker 8: world class Whitehaddow manufacturers to address their biggest challenge, as
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Speaker 8: you say, the attraction and development of the workforce. So
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Speaker 8: we quickly assembled a team to design and develop and
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Speaker 8: endorse the New Zealand Certificate of Manufacturing. So we brought
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Speaker 8: together hunger Azo, the Workforce to Element Council for Manufacturing
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Speaker 8: and Engineering, because we need them to endorse the program
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Speaker 8: to ensure we get the NZQA approval. We brought together
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Speaker 8: wind Tech who would actually help assist industry with the
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Speaker 8: design and development of the program. We brought together WEKKA,
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Speaker 8: who are the Wykatto Engineering Careers Association, who would promote
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Speaker 8: and market this opportunity to twenty three high schools throughout
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Speaker 8: the Wye Cato region, and of course ourselves.
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Speaker 3: So what do they learn? What do they learn, and
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Speaker 3: what do they earn? And how do they do it?
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Speaker 3: And who's paying?
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Speaker 9: Yes?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so this this is a thirty week program. They
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Speaker 8: will spend two days in the classroom at wind Tech
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Speaker 8: and then three days per week for ten weeks with
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Speaker 8: one manufacturer. Then for the next ten week block they
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Speaker 8: will move to another manufacturer for experience, and then for
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Speaker 8: the final ten week block they'll have experience with another
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Speaker 8: So they'll each student will gain experience and exposure into
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Speaker 8: three different manufacturing businesses and they will earn that the
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Speaker 8: businesses have all agreed to commit to pay these students
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Speaker 8: that are now full time students with wind Tech the
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Speaker 8: minimum wage plus one dollar.
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Speaker 3: Wow. That is so good. Catherine, thank you so much
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Speaker 3: for keeping our kids here. That's Catherine Lai from Advancing
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Speaker 3: Manufacturing al Terro. She's the CEO. It is five twenty five.
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Speaker 3: It's Use Talks it B. I'm Andrew Dickens. It is
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Speaker 3: now five twenty seven. So the government says they're all
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Speaker 3: about growth. The government says they're laser focused on growth.
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Speaker 3: The government says they're going to stop saying no and
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Speaker 3: they're going to start saying yes. So why on the
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Speaker 3: weekends was Engineering New Zealand calling the government out for
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Speaker 3: gaslighting about and it's going for growth strategy. They accused
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Speaker 3: the government of talking up infrastructure development and yet in
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Speaker 3: the last fifteen months since the formation of the government,
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Speaker 3: they have stalled, frozen and dumped various state funded building
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Speaker 3: plans with the aim of deficit and debt reduction. And
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Speaker 3: we're seeing it. It's the cancelation of education rebuilds, the
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Speaker 3: shutdown of hospital builds and upgrades, the slow down on roading,
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Speaker 3: and the changes in the Three Waters space as well.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you can say what you want about co governors,
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Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, Three Waters was
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Speaker 3: about building some more dams. It's all meant that New
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Speaker 3: Zealand engineers and New Zealand constructors, the people who build
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Speaker 3: the roads and the water networks and the buildings have
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Speaker 3: all had to look for work elsewhere and that has
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Speaker 3: seen people heading overseas or contracting to work overseas, and
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Speaker 3: it's insignificant numbers, says Engineering New Zealand. Engineering New Zealand
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Speaker 3: says large infrastructure firms in Australia are rapidly hiring large
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Speaker 3: numbers of New Zealand engineers. Engineering New Zealand says other
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Speaker 3: engineers have been lured to California to help with the rebuild.
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Speaker 3: After last month's devastating wildfires. Engineering New Zealand urges the
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Speaker 3: government to free up funds for the delivery and firm
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Speaker 3: up the infrastructure pipeline or in the immortal words of
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Speaker 3: Mike Hosking, Engineering New Zealand is saying, just do something, dickens.
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Speaker 3: So the Prime Minister is on with Mike actually later
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Speaker 3: on today to have a chat about this. He'll talk
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Speaker 3: about the engineering and he'll ask him are you doing
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Speaker 3: anything about it? But it is a worry when you're
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Speaker 3: best to go and aren't they it's just not good.
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Speaker 3: Halburg's are on tonight as well. I might see if
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Speaker 3: I can talk about that. It is tough being a
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Speaker 3: judge with the Halburg Awards. It's on at the Spark Arena,
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Speaker 3: sixty second edition, three years as the passing of Sir
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Speaker 3: Murray Halburg. What a remarkable man, what an athlete, and
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Speaker 3: what a benefactor. But I pitied the judges to tea
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Speaker 3: more about that a little bit later on, and we'll
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Speaker 3: go right around the country and before six we will
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Speaker 3: take you to Paris, France, where the world is meeting.
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Speaker 3: We're not all the world, but a lot of the
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Speaker 3: world is meeting to discuss Ukraine and Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Where the first word on the News of the Day
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Speaker 1: Early edition with.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens and one roof make your property search simple.
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Speaker 1: You talk si me diamond, You're never gonna have a
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Speaker 1: harp is never gonna di baby that diamond.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, Welcome to the TUTA. I'm Andrew Dickens. So
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Speaker 3: the Hawgs are on tonight at Spark Arena. I pitied
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Speaker 3: the judges. I mean, how do you judge this thing?
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Speaker 3: New Zealand sports people have never been so successful, and
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Speaker 3: how do you separate them and how do you rank
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Speaker 3: their performance against each other when they're all in such
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Speaker 3: diverse things. So look, let's just look at the Sportsman
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Speaker 3: of the Year nominated. He's okay. We've got a couple
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Speaker 3: of gold medalists from Paris, Finn Butcher in the canoe,
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Speaker 3: Stalem hamus Kerr he did the high jump, remember him.
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Speaker 3: James McDonald is nominated. This is a rare honor for
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Speaker 3: horse racing. Normally they don't get a sea and Hayden
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Speaker 3: Wild of course from triathm what a good bloke he is.
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Speaker 3: And the magnificent Chris Wood who's the striker for Nottingham
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Speaker 3: Forest these days, and he's our All White captain. Now,
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Speaker 3: at first glance at that list, who might you say?
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Speaker 3: You might say Hamish Kerr, because to be the man
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Speaker 3: who can jump the highest in the world as a
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Speaker 3: singular talent. But then how do you separate him from
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Speaker 3: Chris Wood, who is doing remarkable things in the most
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Speaker 3: competitive football league in the world. I'd say another weird
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Speaker 3: thing about Chris Wood. This is the first time he's
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Speaker 3: ever been nominated. He's our All White captain. He's a
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Speaker 3: goal scoring machine. He's been at the top of his
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Speaker 3: game for a long time. He should have been nominated before,
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Speaker 3: and that's because the Holbergs have always favored medalists and
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Speaker 3: things like the Olympic and Comwealth Games. But maybe those
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Speaker 3: days have changed. But I asked you, where's Liam Lawson
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Speaker 3: on that list? As you while we're talking about motor racing,
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Speaker 3: where's Scott mcglochan or Scott Dixon or Shane Gisbergen On
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Speaker 3: the women's list? Where was lulusun lu Lusan made it
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Speaker 3: to the last eight at Wimbledon but didn't even get
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Speaker 3: a nomination this year. So Michael Burgess from The Herald
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Speaker 3: has written today that we need a new category here
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Speaker 3: recans we need a best achievement in a global sport
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Speaker 3: and I wouldn't disagree with that. Looking forward to the show,
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Speaker 3: looking forward to the debates and the conversations about the winners,
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Speaker 3: and that is tonight at Spark Arena. It is twenty
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Speaker 3: two to six.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens time.
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Speaker 3: To go right around the country and Callum Procter joins
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Speaker 3: us from Dunedin. Haller Callum morning, Andrew. Are people really
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Speaker 3: harassing sea lions for social media? Yeah? Look, you wouldn't
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Speaker 3: believe it, but they are.
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Speaker 10: The sea lions are very prevalent on the beaches around
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Speaker 10: Dneda and Otago this season and a local conservation group
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Speaker 10: is slamming those who are harassing them. The New Zealand
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Speaker 10: Sea Lions Trust says these issues are on the rise
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Speaker 10: as both tourist sand locals continue to engage in poor
20:21
Speaker 10: behavior with the animals. Look, they say, people are openly
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Speaker 10: and brazenly breaching the Marine Mammal Protection Act. Apparently there's
20:29
Speaker 10: been recorded cases of sand rocks and even apples being
20:33
Speaker 10: thrown at these sea lions just to capture their attention
20:37
Speaker 10: for a selfie. The Trust says that they're asking for
20:39
Speaker 10: anyone who spots poor behavior with sea lions to report
20:42
Speaker 10: it to authorities.
20:43
Speaker 3: That's wrong with people. How's your weather?
20:46
Speaker 10: It's not good, few showers, possibly heavy and thundery today.
20:49
Speaker 10: Nor Easterly is in a high of twenty three.
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Speaker 3: I thank you Claise here, we're joined us in Christia Teleclaire.
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Speaker 8: Good morning.
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Speaker 3: So one of the country's biggest festivals is spending an
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Speaker 3: awful lot of money on security half a million dollars.
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Speaker 11: Why has that an awful lot on security? Andrew, Look,
21:03
Speaker 11: this is christ Church is Electric Avenue Festival, which returns
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Speaker 11: to the city on Friday. This year is the first
21:08
Speaker 11: time it's going to be over two days now. We've
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Speaker 11: got more than seventy thousand people expected to pack out
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Speaker 11: Hagley Park in order to go to this festival. They'll
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Speaker 11: see acts like The Prodigy and Chasing Status.
21:20
Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 11: The event costs about twelve million dollars to stage, and
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Speaker 11: four hundred thousand dollars of that is dedicated to security.
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Speaker 11: We spoke with festival director Color Mitchell, who says it's
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Speaker 11: needed because fence jumping is a problem for these sold
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Speaker 11: out events. He says the perimeter this year will be
21:37
Speaker 11: double fenced with around one hundred yards on golf carts,
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Speaker 11: ready to extract people after they do make it over
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Speaker 11: that first fence.
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Speaker 3: Gosh, okay, that's dead. I have broken into Western Springs
21:50
Speaker 3: to see a concert once and jumped onto a tree
21:52
Speaker 3: and when they're all the way down, I was young
21:53
Speaker 3: and stupid and foolish, and never do it again. Now,
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Speaker 3: how's the weather in Christchurch?
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Speaker 11: Well, it's rainy here to start, there is the chance
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Speaker 11: of some showers continuing into the late afternoon, thundery showers.
22:05
Speaker 11: Actually friish northeasterly is easing and a high of twenty six.
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Speaker 3: Max told joins us from Wellington. Hello Max, good morning.
22:11
Speaker 3: So flights between Wellington and Timaru are disappearing at an
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Speaker 3: alarming rate.
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Speaker 12: You nailed it. This just happens to be something that's
22:18
Speaker 12: affected me personally as well. My parents lived down south.
22:21
Speaker 12: The last two times I've tried to fly to Timudu.
22:24
Speaker 12: On one occasion for my brother's wedding. Actually the flight
22:27
Speaker 12: was canceled at the last moment. Passengers who often fly
22:31
Speaker 12: the Wellington Temudou route have similar tales as me. It
22:34
Speaker 12: prompted our newsroom to ask about the cancelation rate. Last
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Speaker 12: year for the service it was eleven percent, so that's
22:41
Speaker 12: worse than one in ten flights being canceled. The national
22:46
Speaker 12: cancelation rate for Air New Zealand is, for reference, just
22:49
Speaker 12: over one percent. A New South Island minister James Meagher,
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Speaker 12: he's from those ways. He's frustrated. He's been speaking to
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Speaker 12: Air New Zealand trying to get to the bottom of this.
22:57
Speaker 12: He says this is a barrier to regional growth. Timuru
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Speaker 12: Mayor and Nigel Bowens says there's been a lot of
23:04
Speaker 12: confidence in the service in the town, but he's still
23:07
Speaker 12: urging locals to keep trying, keep buying flights because if
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Speaker 12: they don't, they'll lose the service In New Zealand. It
23:14
Speaker 12: blames a range of factors like weather, labor shortages, and
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Speaker 12: engineering and technical issues.
23:20
Speaker 3: All right, how's weather.
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Speaker 12: It gets better as the day goes on, sunny spells
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Speaker 12: later strong northwesteries twenty three the high Central.
23:29
Speaker 3: Thank you Neva Lettiman who.
23:31
Speaker 13: Welcome greetings, good morning. They want to move qu yes,
23:35
Speaker 13: well why flooding? Flooding the old risk so Auckland councils
23:40
Speaker 13: found no viable solution. This is to qmu's history of floods.
23:44
Speaker 13: They did have a public meeting last night, about two
23:46
Speaker 13: hundred people turned up to discuss this issue, and Rodney,
23:49
Speaker 13: Council of Greek Sayers says, Look, within the next ten
23:52
Speaker 13: years or so, the Township Center will have to move.
23:56
Speaker 13: He sees the Council's going to identify some new land
23:58
Speaker 13: that'll probably be to all to a pie and this
24:01
Speaker 13: will be you know, obviously flat land that's not flood prone,
24:04
Speaker 13: so this will be an ongoing issue.
24:05
Speaker 3: Yere, Why did they build it there in the first place.
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Speaker 13: Well, yeah, well that was probably before the flood's happened
24:10
Speaker 13: and everything else.
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Speaker 3: The floods have always happened there, and they knew it.
24:13
Speaker 3: I've seen water diagrams of that area. It's always been
24:16
Speaker 3: a flood plan, and yet they thought they could mitigate it.
24:19
Speaker 3: There's an idea for a one hundred and sixty three
24:20
Speaker 3: dollars one hundred and sixty three million dollar dam to
24:23
Speaker 3: stop the water coming down, but nobody's got that money
24:25
Speaker 3: these days.
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Speaker 13: No, Well that's right. Well that's a big thing, isn't it.
24:27
Speaker 13: It's all about money, no one is it?
24:29
Speaker 3: Moving at Township is a big thing. How's Hawkin's weather?
24:33
Speaker 13: Okay? Well, it's just going to be hot and humid
24:35
Speaker 13: again today, very muggy showers becoming few and far between.
24:38
Speaker 13: This morning, long sunny spells developing. Twenty seven is the high.
24:42
Speaker 3: And I thank you now. Textas are coming in. Luca
24:44
Speaker 3: has texted in about my conversation about the engineers. It's
24:47
Speaker 3: Dr Richard Templer actually wrote a lot of that stuff
24:49
Speaker 3: for Engineering New Zealand. Very very smart man. And as
24:53
Speaker 3: Luke says, design engineers and engineering trades people aren't just
24:56
Speaker 3: born with their set squares pencil or a welding gun
24:58
Speaker 3: in hand, and you don't just magic these people up.
25:01
Speaker 3: Years of training are involved. This is right, Luke, and
25:04
Speaker 3: so we can't let them go. We need to keep
25:06
Speaker 3: hold of them and our tight hands and never let
25:09
Speaker 3: them go. And yet we are right now. As soon
25:11
Speaker 3: as you stop funding infrastructure projects, they go because they
25:15
Speaker 3: want to work. The Prime Ministers on with Mike later today,
25:18
Speaker 3: but next we're off to Australia. Will they cut their
25:20
Speaker 3: interest rates? And we're also going to talk about naming cyclones,
25:24
Speaker 3: which I think is a fascinating science.
25:27
Speaker 2: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of mind
25:31
Speaker 2: for New Zealand business.
25:34
Speaker 3: If The time is now thirteen minutes to six, will
25:36
Speaker 3: take you to Paris very shortly as the Ukraine summit
25:39
Speaker 3: gets underway at the Elisa Palace. But right now we're
25:41
Speaker 3: off to Australia and its good morning to donand Mayo,
25:44
Speaker 3: good morning to you. Will the Reserve Bank cut your
25:46
Speaker 3: interest rates today? Oh?
25:48
Speaker 14: Wow?
25:49
Speaker 15: Is Australia about to enter a new economic era? That's
25:51
Speaker 15: the question apparently, so economists are asking ahead of today's
25:55
Speaker 15: Reserve Bank of Australian announcement on interest rates whether this
25:58
Speaker 15: is going to happen? Is it going to cut rates finally? Now,
26:01
Speaker 15: this of course would raise hopes amongst mortgage holders. The
26:04
Speaker 15: official cash rate, how has it been sitting at four
26:08
Speaker 15: point three five percent?
26:09
Speaker 14: That since November twenty twenty.
26:11
Speaker 15: Three, So it's a long while we've been waiting. Now,
26:13
Speaker 15: As you know, Australia's face to high inflation of late
26:17
Speaker 15: rising living costs, and so the banks are predicting. In fact,
26:21
Speaker 15: am Z has come out and said there might even
26:23
Speaker 15: be two cuts this year. CBA's got us even more excited.
26:27
Speaker 14: Four cuts.
26:28
Speaker 15: Meanwhile, we've heard from an economics professor and he suggested, well,
26:32
Speaker 15: this anticipated cycle of rate cuts well, that could be
26:35
Speaker 15: interrupted by other than the Trump administration, because we know
26:39
Speaker 15: that they're still thinking about their tariffs and trade policies,
26:43
Speaker 15: so that could actually influence what happens for the rest
26:46
Speaker 15: of the year.
26:47
Speaker 3: Yes, and there's a little bit of supply chain difficulty
26:50
Speaker 3: with all sorts of stuff. I know, our food price
26:52
Speaker 3: indecks came out on Friday. It's gone up again, so
26:56
Speaker 3: inflation hasn't been killed. It's the same for you guys
26:59
Speaker 3: in Australia. By the way, New Zealand next year decides
27:02
Speaker 3: what it's doing with its interest rates tomorrow. The ODA
27:05
Speaker 3: is tomorrow. Now, how the Prime Minister influenced the name
27:10
Speaker 3: in the cyclones.
27:12
Speaker 14: Well, I hope you find this as fascinating as I did,
27:14
Speaker 14: because look, in all seriousness though, Tropical Cyclone Zelia has
27:18
Speaker 14: just dissipated and that was a powerful Category five cyclone
27:22
Speaker 14: that hit the coast of Western Australia.
27:23
Speaker 15: So there's been floods, there's been high winds, lots of
27:26
Speaker 15: damage there.
27:27
Speaker 9: But in the.
27:27
Speaker 15: Meantime, the Bureau of Aneurology has come out and said, oh,
27:29
Speaker 15: actually the next cyclone, we're going to have to change
27:32
Speaker 15: the name. So what it does to name cyclones is.
27:35
Speaker 15: It just has a list of names in alphabetical order
27:38
Speaker 15: and it alternates by gender. The next name or is
27:40
Speaker 15: due to b Anthony cyclone Anthony. There's never to be
27:43
Speaker 15: a cyclone Anthony because our PM is Anthony Alberzi. So
27:47
Speaker 15: instead they're going to jump to the next name, which
27:49
Speaker 15: happens to be Alfred. The bureau says that when the
27:52
Speaker 15: name matches a prominent person of the time, they have
27:56
Speaker 15: to reorder the next name to avoid confusion.
27:59
Speaker 3: Apparently, yes, I have to say, who wants to be
28:02
Speaker 3: associated with the natural disaster, you know, especially when you're
28:06
Speaker 3: suffering in the polls away Albanezi is. When I came
28:09
Speaker 3: back from overseas, it was the same time that Hurricane
28:11
Speaker 3: Andrew was happening in America, and so people actually got
28:15
Speaker 3: some headlines out from the paper and welcoming at the airport,
28:18
Speaker 3: going Hurricane Andrew has arrived of it you how lovely,
28:22
Speaker 3: hell Donna, thank you for your time today. It is
28:24
Speaker 3: now ten to six. So the European Union has been
28:28
Speaker 3: holding an emergency security summit with European leaders in Paris.
28:32
Speaker 3: The meeting was called to discuss concerns around HUIS officials
28:34
Speaker 3: meeting with Russia to end the war in Ukraine, and
28:37
Speaker 3: that's happening in Saudi. Andrew Ritman is the EU Observer
28:42
Speaker 3: Foreign editor, and he joins me. Now, Hello, Andrew, Hi,
28:47
Speaker 3: nice to meet you.
28:47
Speaker 9: Thanks for inviting me on.
28:49
Speaker 3: It's a pleas a remarkable meeting, A bit of a
28:51
Speaker 3: last minute scramble.
28:54
Speaker 9: Absolutely, yeah. I think Europe has been taken by surprise
28:58
Speaker 9: at the speed with which the Trumpet administration has moved
29:01
Speaker 9: with its Russia plans and as well by some of
29:04
Speaker 9: its interventions at the Munich Security conference over the weekend.
29:08
Speaker 3: So what are they hoping to get out of this?
29:09
Speaker 3: And by the way, can I just say Donald Trump
29:12
Speaker 3: has had telegraphed what he was going to do for
29:14
Speaker 3: a very long time. I'm surprised people were surprised by it.
29:18
Speaker 3: But now they are meeting, and now they're talking. What
29:20
Speaker 3: do you think they are hoping to get out of it?
29:24
Speaker 9: Yeah, to come back to your telegraph, I think. You know,
29:27
Speaker 9: Trump says so much and in the end does something
29:30
Speaker 9: completely different that the fact that he's actually taken action
29:33
Speaker 9: on this with the meeting in Dubai tomorrow is quite surprising.
29:37
Speaker 9: But moreover, it's what has been said around it. When
29:41
Speaker 9: his Defense secretary Pete Hesath came to Brussels last week,
29:45
Speaker 9: he basically gave away the crown jewels. He said Ukraine
29:48
Speaker 9: would have to make all the concessions if it wanted
29:50
Speaker 9: peace with Russia and that Europe wasn't even invited to
29:53
Speaker 9: the table. So with your question, what are they trying
29:56
Speaker 9: to achieve the day in Paris, I think they're trying
29:59
Speaker 9: to show that United that they're relevant, that stakeholders in this,
30:04
Speaker 9: and that they have some answers for what's coming next.
30:07
Speaker 3: Something that happened that has not happened for a very
30:09
Speaker 3: long time in my lifetime is that Sakia Stamer came
30:12
Speaker 3: out and said he is ready and willing to put
30:14
Speaker 3: UK troops on the ground in the Ukraine. This is
30:17
Speaker 3: a very strong stance other leaders prepared to follow.
30:21
Speaker 9: It's a bold move. Yeah, and I think we've heard
30:23
Speaker 9: similar comments today from the Spanish Prime minister. The Dutch
30:28
Speaker 9: didn't rule it out. I think even German chance that
30:31
Speaker 9: Olive Schultz said he might go for it, which is
30:33
Speaker 9: quite a big deal given the German Russian history around
30:37
Speaker 9: World War Two and all the messaging there. Of course,
30:40
Speaker 9: fans had already floated that bubble a long time ago.
30:42
Speaker 9: But I think that this is the thing that's going
30:44
Speaker 9: to come out of the summit today, a pledged by
30:47
Speaker 9: European countries, including mister Starmer, to put together a peacekeeping
30:51
Speaker 9: contingent in Ukraine. Now, whether we'll actually go forward with
30:56
Speaker 9: that is another matter, because a European peacekeeping contingent and
31:00
Speaker 9: without a US security guarantee, experts don't think that's going
31:04
Speaker 9: to scare put in the way. And Pete Hegseth also
31:08
Speaker 9: spelled out in excruciating detail that any peacekeeping force made
31:12
Speaker 9: up of NATO allies on Ukrainian soil won't be covered
31:15
Speaker 9: by Article five. That means that if Russia attacks them
31:18
Speaker 9: next spring, the spring after, the Americans won't come and
31:22
Speaker 9: bail out the Europeans. They happened since World War Two.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I understand the meeting has just wrapped up,
31:27
Speaker 3: so we'll wait to see what releases come out of it.
31:30
Speaker 3: And Andrew Ritman, I thank you so much for giving us
31:32
Speaker 3: an insight into what is quite a remarkable day in history.
31:34
Speaker 3: You have to say this is news talks here being
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Speaker 3: it is seven minutes to six, get.
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Speaker 2: Ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens and
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Speaker 3: Have you mentioned, of course the sportsman of the year
31:51
Speaker 3: at the Halberg's tonight and I mentioned the name James
31:53
Speaker 3: McDonald and horse racing, and I said, horse racing is
31:55
Speaker 3: very really honored. I've got this text from Tom and
31:58
Speaker 3: he says, having been a winner of every major Group
32:01
Speaker 3: one race in Australia and New Zealand at least once,
32:03
Speaker 3: and distinguished at both Ascot and Hong Kong numerous times,
32:07
Speaker 3: super jockey James McDonald has now been internationally rated number
32:11
Speaker 3: one in the world for the second year in a row.
32:13
Speaker 3: His nomination for New Zealand Sportsman of the Year is
32:15
Speaker 3: long overdue. I agree, and thank you Tom. I didn't
32:18
Speaker 3: know all that. But how do you rank him compared
32:20
Speaker 3: to Hamish Kerr who won the high jump, And how
32:22
Speaker 3: do you rank him versus Chris Wood who's saving Nottingham
32:25
Speaker 3: Forrest and doing extraordinary things at the Premier League. And
32:29
Speaker 3: the fact that Chris Wood has never been nominated until
32:32
Speaker 3: this year, and yet he's been doing this stuff for
32:34
Speaker 3: ten years. I hate to be a judge. Mike Coskin corning.
32:37
Speaker 3: That's the problem with the judges.
32:38
Speaker 16: They're all sports junos.
32:42
Speaker 8: Yeah.
32:42
Speaker 3: Well, Michael Burgess is in the paper today at Sports
32:45
Speaker 3: Journo and he say we need more categories. We need
32:47
Speaker 3: to have a global Achievement of the year sort of thing.
32:50
Speaker 3: And there maybe people like James McDonald of Liam Lawson.
32:54
Speaker 16: I thought, no, so I listened to you before Lulu
32:57
Speaker 16: Son to be not to dismiss her. She win anything
33:00
Speaker 16: and she got lucky in a drawer. So Liam Lawson,
33:03
Speaker 16: as much as I love him and I do, has
33:05
Speaker 16: done nothing other than get a job. That's not a
33:08
Speaker 16: good game. That's not when Scott Dixon did. Scott Dixon
33:10
Speaker 16: did get not only nominated, but he won a couple
33:13
Speaker 16: of years ago, either as man or if not the
33:16
Speaker 16: Supreme War. But in an Olympic year, it's always the
33:20
Speaker 16: same thing. They can't go past a World championship or
33:22
Speaker 16: an Olympic gold medal. And that's the beginning of the
33:24
Speaker 16: middle and the end of it. And so there's no
33:25
Speaker 16: nuance and suffleting to it. Unfortunately, right, here's your question. Quickly,
33:29
Speaker 16: you're Chris Pink, do you boot the Kumar's out or not?
33:35
Speaker 16: You see that would that be the most difficult thing.
33:39
Speaker 3: You would do as a minister. Yes, of course.
33:42
Speaker 16: And the easy thing to do would be no, you
33:43
Speaker 16: can stay because more people would go, oh, you're a
33:46
Speaker 16: nice guy, but that's my rules.
33:48
Speaker 3: That's the rules.
33:49
Speaker 16: Consequences that you're the nice guy. You set a precedent.
33:52
Speaker 16: So what do you do? You see, how do you
33:54
Speaker 16: wagh it up? He can do anything he wants apparent I.
33:57
Speaker 3: Thought being a judge was you go and.
33:59
Speaker 16: That's how it works? Why Chris Lackson after seven thirty?
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Speaker 3: Yes, could you ask who I am? Aout the engineering?
34:04
Speaker 3: Thank you and thank you.
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