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- 0:18Hello and welcome to Resource Report, where we
- 0:20share with you important information about local
- 0:24nonprofits and resource organizations that support
- 0:27the community we share. Produced by Pathways
- 0:31to Agency. I am your host, Michaela. Today's
- 0:35guest is Chris Hyde, the creator of Olympia's
- 0:39Souper Sunday and the founder of the Food Source
- 0:42Foundation. Thank you for joining us again on
- 0:53Resource Report. Chris, we've had you on a previous
- 0:56episode here. It was way back in the very beginning
- 0:59of the show in Season 1. I believe it was our
- 1:02fourth episode here that we did with you. Rainmaker
- 1:06was the interviewer last time. That's right. But I'm here with
- 1:09you now, and it's a great opportunity to come
- 1:11and see how far you've come, because when I listened
- 1:14to the last episode... It sounded like you were
- 1:16still working out of your house, which is really
- 1:18a long way to come. So if you could, please,
- 1:21for our audience, reintroduce yourself and tell
- 1:23us how you got started with all of this and give
- 1:26us a small recap. Okay. Yeah, I'll try to make
- 1:29it kind of quick. My name is Chris Hyde. I'm
- 1:31the director of the Food Source Foundation. We
- 1:33are a local nonprofit that is dedicated to feeding
- 1:37Olympia with good quality homemade soup and now
- 1:42groceries. We are now serving between all the
- 1:45different groups about 1 ,100 to 1 ,200 meals
- 1:48per week. And meal is kind of a funny term. So
- 1:51I use the term meal portion. So about 1 ,200
- 1:54meal portions per week. We are doing three free
- 1:58food days downtown across from the transit center
- 2:01for mostly a group of people who are homeless
- 2:05or food insecure. But everybody's welcome. That's
- 2:09Monday, Wednesday, and Friday from 6 to 7 -ish
- 2:13or until the food's gone. We do a Friday food
- 2:16service here at the Peace Church, which is on
- 2:20Friendly Grove Road. That is hot food and a large
- 2:24variety of groceries. And we have a lot of stuff
- 2:27available these days from 5 p .m. to 6 p .m.
- 2:31And then all the different Souper Sunday groups
- 2:33are independent in and of themselves. We don't
- 2:37have any legal connection to them or anything.
- 2:39It's sort of our deal. This Food Source Foundation
- 2:41can help to get them groceries. That's kind of
- 2:45where our responsibility with them ends. That
- 2:47was the original idea, so yeah, we have had to
- 2:50make a real distinction, and we've talked about
- 2:52it at board meetings. Just, you know, people
- 2:55donating, thinking it's just Souper Sunday. It
- 2:58now all goes, you know, we never took money for
- 3:01Souper Sunday, so that's an important thing. Any
- 3:03cash donations go to the Food Source Foundation,
- 3:06and then we use that money as an umbrella group
- 3:10to fund getting food to other groups that are
- 3:13serving the greater Olympia area. So we have
- 3:17Friday night here, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday
- 3:20downtown, and all of these really are for anybody
- 3:24who feels like they want or need a meal. A lot
- 3:28of people are making difficult choices between
- 3:30gas or paying a bill and eating. And I'll talk
- 3:33a little bit more later about that and sort of
- 3:35how I started the Food Source Foundation. And
- 3:38then our last group are the different Souper Sunday
- 3:41satellites. I think there's maybe, they kind
- 3:44of come and go. There's probably 15, 16 in the
- 3:47greater Olympia area now. So with those, they're
- 3:51not necessarily affiliated with the Food Source
- 3:54Foundation. We can support them with the process,
- 3:57but once they get going, they're autonomous.
- 4:00There's no way that we could police those groups.
- 4:03So they start and they're just their own little
- 4:06entities. It's an important thing because they
- 4:09really generate a lot of food for people. A lot
- 4:12of times it's like in a neighborhood. When I
- 4:14was doing Souper Sunday, it was the upper Bigelow
- 4:17neighborhood. But I'd still have people who would
- 4:19stop down from Shelton to get a hot meal. But
- 4:22anyway, the Souper Sundays are really great. They're
- 4:25for anybody. They're not necessarily geared towards
- 4:28lower income people. It was more kind of a reaction
- 4:31to COVID and the divisiveness that we're all
- 4:35finding ourselves in these days. So it was more
- 4:38of a community building thing. You know, the
- 4:40ethos of Souper Sunday is to provide food without
- 4:45restriction to anybody who wants or needs it.
- 4:49Between all of those groups, we are serving between
- 4:52a thousand and twelve hundred food portions a
- 4:55week, which is pretty good. Wow, that's pretty
- 4:58expansive. That's definitely already, I can tell,
- 5:00a larger reach than when we touched base with
- 5:04you last time. Absolutely. And with all those
- 5:06different Souper Sunday offshoots. You did mention
- 5:08in the previous episode you were encouraging
- 5:11these Souper Sunday satellites to form in their
- 5:13neighborhoods to serve neighborhood needs. And
- 5:15now you've been budding that feature, been budding
- 5:18that service out to other places, and it's sort
- 5:21of been growing on its own. it sounds like it's
- 5:24really been a success in terms of spreading... Goodwill?
- 5:27Spreading goodwill, spreading the effort spreading
- 5:29the interest and engagement of this concept.. Yeah.
- 5:33..Into neighborhoods specifically. And it's incredible.
- 5:36People.. it.. it's really changing people's lives.
- 5:38There are a lot of people who were really stuck
- 5:41after Covid and you know, like all the political
- 5:44stuff and the divisiveness the social media can
- 5:47just be a nightmare of kind of this false sense
- 5:49of division. A lot of people have been looking
- 5:52for something positive to do, but, you know,
- 5:55we're all paralyzed on a certain level. And to
- 5:58get out of that paralysis and depression and
- 6:01isolation and to actually sort of forget about
- 6:04yourself and be of service to your community
- 6:06is a life -changing process. It's changed my
- 6:09life. I've got lots of stories. One woman who
- 6:12was coming early on, her name is Allie, and I
- 6:15was giving her soup like in the first few months
- 6:17of starting. So that would have been September
- 6:19of 2023. And she would show up and we'd chat
- 6:22a little bit and she'd drive off. And then I
- 6:25didn't hear from her for several months. And
- 6:27I heard from her, I don't know, about six months
- 6:29ago, and I didn't know, but she had been addicted
- 6:32to meth and living in her car that winter. She
- 6:34said that just the idea of getting this sort
- 6:37of gift of soup and goodwill from somebody she
- 6:40didn't even know gave her enough of hope to seek
- 6:44treatment. She got through treatment. She finished
- 6:47her degree in social work. She got her kids back.
- 6:51She got married. And then she got a job counseling
- 6:54other people who are addicts who are trying to
- 6:57get clean. She said it very much just sort of
- 7:00the energy and process of being able to be recognized
- 7:05as a human being as opposed to like a drug addict
- 7:08really helped her. And, you know, she's one of
- 7:11many. I'm not taking credit for any of that.
- 7:13I'm facilitating an idea that sort of came to
- 7:16me. It's really all of us together. For me, the
- 7:19important thing is like, you know, there's no
- 7:21religion or politics or anything like that with
- 7:23a group. It is a matter of acknowledging that
- 7:27we are all part of the same human family. We
- 7:29call it the sacred circle of giving and receiving.
- 7:31You're just as important if you're taking a meal
- 7:34as you are if you're providing a meal. You know,
- 7:37it's a continuum of sacred process of making
- 7:40food as a group and serving it. You know, this
- 7:43one thing that really has united us since time
- 7:46began. Yeah, you're right. It is about being
- 7:48part of a continuum. And when you are a human
- 7:52being that's been dehumanized in that situation,
- 7:54like you are not just down on your luck, but
- 7:57you've internalized that idea that this is who
- 8:00I am. Yeah. Having care given to you helps you take
- 8:04care in yourself. To take that care that you
- 8:07can feel like, there's a play on words here that
- 8:09I'm going through, but to be a part of that concept
- 8:12of I'm being cared for, I can then know what
- 8:16it's like to care for myself. It helps people
- 8:18when they are in situations when they don't seem
- 8:21to have resources, physical resources or emotional
- 8:25resources. It does start that chain again of
- 8:27participation again in being a human being with
- 8:30other people. People forget the humanity part
- 8:33of it. It's been... really a master class in
- 8:36suspending judgment, working with the downtown
- 8:39population. You know, there's every kind of person
- 8:42there. It's mostly homeless people, but now more
- 8:45than ever since food has gotten so expensive,
- 8:47there are more people who are actually housed
- 8:49who are showing up for food. It's been very eye
- 8:52-opening for me to hang out with those folks.
- 8:56You know, I always encourage the people who are
- 8:58serving to not come from any place of, like,
- 9:01being better. than or judging these people because
- 9:04you know, there but for the grace of God, go I.
- 9:06At some point any of us could be there any of
- 9:09us could be there. When you treat somebody horizontally,
- 9:13neighbor to neighbor, heart to heart, they.. they
- 9:17get it, you know, it's not like people who are
- 9:19proselytizing to try to where they're being fed
- 9:23as conditional on them hearing, you know, like
- 9:25a sermon or something. It's like, you deserve it
- 9:28just because you're on this earth and you're
- 9:31part of our greater human family. And when you
- 9:34treat people like that, everything changes. I
- 9:37don't have any patience for people who are rolling
- 9:39their eyes, judgmental, because like I said,
- 9:41we could all end up there. And just take a step
- 9:43back and realize that these people are just as
- 9:47valuable as a human as you are. Make eye contact
- 9:50with people. Ask them their name, shake their
- 9:53hand, acknowledge them on that level. It really
- 9:56makes a difference, and you can tell in their
- 9:58affect and the way that they treat you. It also
- 10:01builds in this kind of reciprocity where I often
- 10:04see people who are in line who are like, here's
- 10:06one last item, and they'll kind of look around
- 10:08and like, hey, does anybody need this more than
- 10:10me? That happens all the time. That community
- 10:13really does take care of itself. It's got a lot
- 10:15of rough edges, but it's like any other human
- 10:17community. My perspective is anything I can do
- 10:21to make their day better, I'm going to do, of
- 10:23course, within reason. Feeding them good quality
- 10:25food. Do you make better decisions when you're
- 10:27hydrated and well -fed? It's just a fact. Yeah,
- 10:30your brain actually can work to what its capacity
- 10:33is. Yeah. Your body can start healing. You have energy
- 10:37to make it to a next point in your journey, wherever
- 10:40it's going to go. And you also have more ability
- 10:43to deal with changes and unexpected events as
- 10:46it comes to you. You're more stable. just from
- 10:48a physical standpoint. Absolutely. And you're
- 10:51going to be making better decisions all the way
- 10:53around. You know, this is all looking towards
- 10:56the potential of somebody. All of these folks
- 10:58have some potential. And it's weird when I say
- 11:01all of these folks. I always feel uncomfortable
- 11:03because it's like stereotyping these people.
- 11:07Every single one of the people who are down there
- 11:10have got a different story and come from a different
- 11:13place. There are people who are completely sober
- 11:16down there who have fallen out of hard times
- 11:18and are homeless. There are people who are actively
- 11:21addicted. There are people who are mentally ill.
- 11:24There are people who are mentally ill and actively
- 11:27addicted, and they all have a different story.
- 11:29And I have to fight those base human emotions
- 11:33as much as anybody else. I have to remind myself
- 11:36every day when I'm encountering things, you know,
- 11:38we have these weird knee jerk reactions emotionally
- 11:40sometimes. In your past interview, you did mention
- 11:43that you did want to see more people who were
- 11:45not necessarily houseless or homeless. You wanted
- 11:49people that were just regular people that had
- 11:51a form of stability to also join in and connect
- 11:54with the community that way. It sounds like you
- 11:56have been seeing more and more of that. Yeah,
- 11:58you wouldn't think so. But the hardest part really
- 12:00was getting people to show up who weren't desperate
- 12:03because, you know, a lot of nice people are kind
- 12:06of like, oh, I don't want to take food away from
- 12:08anybody who really needs it. which I totally
- 12:10get that, but this is a different animal, really.
- 12:13It's much more about connecting people and having
- 12:17them all sit down at the table together so they
- 12:19can learn from one another, people from all walks
- 12:21of life, all different kinds of situations, and
- 12:24everybody's in a different place. And you can
- 12:26be from anywhere. You can identify any way you
- 12:29want. The only thing that I really put my foot
- 12:31down about is divisive narratives, you know,
- 12:34no racist or sexist narratives or any of the ists.
- 12:39There's no room for that here. That's not what
- 12:41it's about. This is not for that. I'll just tell
- 12:56you how Souper Sunday started and the delineation
- 12:59between Souper Sunday and the Food Source Foundation.
- 13:02Because it is a little bit entangled in the sense
- 13:05that you were doing both of these at the same
- 13:07time, but they needed to be some pathway separated
- 13:11between the food service in terms of the Souper
- 13:15Sunday giving soup and food meals, and then what
- 13:18became a foundation that you manage separately,
- 13:21so yes, go ahead. It almost happened backward, you
- 13:24know. You think you would start the Foundation
- 13:25first and then things would come out of that,
- 13:27but September 10th 2023 I was sitting in front
- 13:32of my computer, um, and uh, just doing some emails
- 13:37I think, and I had this wave of electrical energy
- 13:41come over me. It's difficult to describe because
- 13:44it's a feeling unlike anything I've ever had
- 13:46before, but it was palpable. Going from hanging
- 13:48out and being myself to what is going on? Here's
- 13:52this weird thing happening to me. And it was
- 13:54totally positive. And attached to it was this
- 13:57message, a pretty simple message, that I need
- 14:00to start making soup for my neighbors for free.
- 14:02Just start. Don't worry about the small stuff.
- 14:05Don't let anything slow you down. Don't let any
- 14:08minutiae get in your way. Make the soup and listen
- 14:11to this idea and take it seriously. And I did.
- 14:15I mean, it's the best thing I ever did was to
- 14:16listen to that idea and take it seriously. One
- 14:28of your goals from the beginning was to involve
- 14:30money as little as possible simply because you
- 14:32want it to be about food, and nutrients, and the
- 14:36exchange of community rather than getting caught
- 14:40up in everything that comes with the concept
- 14:44of value purchasing or exchange. From what I
- 14:48understood, you really wanted it to stand on
- 14:50its own outside of that system of monetary value.
- 14:54Has that changed at all now that you've had a
- 14:57new organization to manage? Or is there still that
- 15:02way to balance what you were talking about earlier
- 15:04and try to keep the influence of money itself
- 15:08as least influential as possible in what you're
- 15:11doing? Yes and no. So those values were very
- 15:15much part of the Souper Sunday groups. We wouldn't
- 15:20take cash donations, partly because I didn't
- 15:23want to have to deal with having a weird tax
- 15:26situation for myself. That was part of the reason,
- 15:28but the main reason is kind of what you were
- 15:29saying. I wanted community to come together and
- 15:33donate real things as opposed to just somebody
- 15:36buying something on Amazon or whatever it is,
- 15:39just the money part of it and the virtual nature.
- 15:43I wanted somebody to bring a bag of potatoes
- 15:45to my front porch, and that still is a huge part
- 15:49of the Souper Sunday ethos. And this is a good
- 15:52transition point where I can tell you sort of
- 15:55the beginning of the Food Source Foundation and
- 15:58how it started and what inspired me to do that.
- 16:00With that being said, people were always offering
- 16:03me money and I always had to turn it down. I
- 16:05realized that it might be in our best interest
- 16:08if we wanted to expand what we're doing to start
- 16:11a nonprofit. My main motivation, though, the
- 16:14inspiration was as people were showing up and
- 16:17picking up food for the year that I was doing
- 16:19Souper Sunday primarily, there were a lot of people
- 16:23showing up who really needed like groceries and
- 16:26food help. And their story was almost identical
- 16:31from person to person. And I'll just tell you
- 16:33about one woman who came and this really illustrates
- 16:35it. She lives in Olympia. I think she works in
- 16:38Tenino in a warehouse somewhere and she was making
- 16:42like 27 bucks an hour. Rents a one bedroom apartment.
- 16:45She has a car payment, no other big extraneous
- 16:48bills. And when I met her, she was coming to
- 16:51pick up some groceries. She was on her way back
- 16:54from the blood bank. I think you can do it like
- 16:56four times a month and she does it once a week
- 16:59because after her bills and minimal bills, making
- 17:04that much money at the beginning of the month,
- 17:06she was food insecure. I heard that story over
- 17:08and over and over again. The thing about her
- 17:11that really makes me think about her is just
- 17:13the metaphor of like, the system as a vampire
- 17:16wasn't lost on me. So she's having to go and
- 17:18sell her body fluids in order to be able to feed
- 17:22herself and her partner. I heard that story in
- 17:26various different incarnations again and again
- 17:29and again. The thing is that there's a lot of
- 17:32safety nets here, but not for the working poor.
- 17:36You can't get SNAP benefits because you're making
- 17:39too much money. If you're fully employed, you
- 17:41can't take two or three hours off during the
- 17:43middle of the day to go to the food bank. So
- 17:46there are literally food insecure, hungry people
- 17:49who are working full time and doing everything
- 17:51right. So I thought I had to do something about
- 17:54that. And I decided to start the Food Source
- 17:57Foundation. If you go from like, all the different
- 18:01larger food distributions, we're involved with
- 18:06Tanino Food Bank, Jody Stoltz, who's an amazing
- 18:10woman. And we get maybe 800 pounds or more of
- 18:14food every Thursday delivered. That's a lot to
- 18:18have to manage. It is, yeah. And fortunately,
- 18:20I can take it now because we've got cold food
- 18:22storage. I'll get all that together. then it's
- 18:26usually earlier in the day. And then different
- 18:28group members who are making food for other people
- 18:31will come by and I'll distribute to them. They
- 18:34will sub -distribute to other makers who they'll
- 18:38pick up for them as a maker and then maybe two
- 18:40other makers. And then all of those people will
- 18:43make food and distribute it, and then it will
- 18:45get distributed again if there's leftover stuff.
- 18:47So I guess that illustrates just the level of
- 18:50interconnectedness and community that a project
- 18:54like this engenders. I structured it in a way
- 18:57where, as part of our mission, we're able to
- 19:00donate food to various different groups, and
- 19:04they don't necessarily have to be nonprofits
- 19:06themselves. Anyone who is legitimately trying
- 19:09to feed other people. There's a woman, Jolene,
- 19:13now who I'm talking to who is involved with the
- 19:16Jungle. And yeah, whatever we can do to expand
- 19:19the number of people that we're feeding who are
- 19:23food insecure without restriction is what we're
- 19:25here to do. Our motto is food is a human right.
- 19:28You know, the ethos is Souper Sunday is to provide
- 19:32food without restriction to anybody who wants
- 19:36or needs it. Like I was saying before, it was
- 19:38harder to have people show up who were housed
- 19:41and fairly well off because they felt like it
- 19:44was a soup line or soup kitchen like from
- 19:47the 20s where you know people are waiting with
- 19:49a bowl and dejected in a big line and it wasn't
- 19:52that kind of model of desperation. Let's just
- 19:55all reconnect through healthy delicious soup
- 19:58and if you're coming to pick up you're just as
- 20:01much a part of the project as if you're donating
- 20:03food ingredients or whatever and then it really
- 20:07started to take off. I got a lot of press and
- 20:09there was that KOMO video. I don't know if you've
- 20:12seen that or not. Eric Johnson from KOMO, he
- 20:14used to do Eric's Little Heroes back in the 90s.
- 20:17Then later he was just doing like kind of hometown
- 20:19hero stuff and he heard about me and he did this
- 20:23really an amazing job on this story. Six or seven
- 20:25minutes and kind of a feel -good story about
- 20:28what I was doing and it instantly caught fire
- 20:32and this one has gotten three million views so
- 20:34far. Oh wow, that's an incredible reach. Yeah,
- 20:37which is pretty good. And I've heard from people
- 20:39all over the country and from different countries
- 20:42who've seen it, and it's really sad in a certain
- 20:44way and it's good in a certain way. It has inspired
- 20:47people to get out of their isolation and depression
- 20:50and take action doing something. It's also been
- 20:54very emotional for people who watch it. The sad
- 20:57part of it is just hearing from so many people,
- 21:00like hundreds if not thousands of people, who
- 21:02contact me through Facebook and they're like,
- 21:05You know, I've just been like lying in bed the
- 21:07last three weeks, so depressed about the state
- 21:10of the world and feeling like there's no hope
- 21:12left. And then I saw this thing and it, you know,
- 21:15just made me realize that there is something
- 21:19positive out there and we can all do something.
- 21:21And so I started cooking for my neighbor or whatever.
- 21:25The good thing is that this project and certainly
- 21:31this news story from KOMO has had the widest
- 21:33reach. It's inspired a lot of people, and it's
- 21:36still circulating. It is just a minor action
- 21:41in the realm of the world and the universe and
- 21:44time and space, but it means everything, as well.
- 21:48So your sad elderly neighbor who hasn't had a
- 21:53conversation with anybody for three months, and
- 21:56you show up with some soup and come in and chat
- 21:59with them. I've seen people like, just break down
- 22:03into tears because they're getting acknowledged
- 22:05in a world that feels like it is no longer for
- 22:08them. So just that one thing, just like checking
- 22:12in with somebody, those things seem like small
- 22:15things and they are on some level, but at the
- 22:18same time in the same space, they are what we're
- 22:21put on earth to do. You know, it just seems like
- 22:23that's the whole reason we're here is to take
- 22:26care of one another. And there's so many distractions
- 22:29to that. Speaking of neighborly and speaking
- 22:32of that kind of activity of cooking food for
- 22:34your neighbors, do you still serve soup out of
- 22:37your house for neighbors at times? Up until about
- 22:41a month and a half ago, yeah. I encourage people,
- 22:45and I still do this to some extent, but a lesser
- 22:48extent since we've gotten our brick -and -mortar
- 22:50location. I love having something on the back
- 22:53burner all the time. If you make a meal and you've
- 22:56got the ends of vegetables left over and you
- 22:59freeze them and then make that into a stock later
- 23:02on, I do that all the time. So I always try to
- 23:04have something on the back burner and I encourage
- 23:06other people to do it too. If I make a meal for
- 23:08myself, I'll often make eight portions and I'll
- 23:11eat one that day and maybe save one for the next
- 23:14day and then put on Buy Nothing or the Souper
- 23:17Sunday group that I've got like, hey, have you
- 23:19had a hard day today? I've got six portions of
- 23:22this meal that I just made. And sometimes it'll
- 23:25just be for one family or a couple of different
- 23:27people will pick up. In the last episode we interviewed
- 23:46you at, you mentioned that you had been collecting
- 23:48soups as part of a food library. Oh yeah. But what you've
- 23:52said now, it sounds like people are checking
- 23:54out from the food library all over the place
- 23:57and there's not a lot of time for it to sit.
- 23:59People are getting it left and right. People
- 24:01are sharing it with each other. There's a lot
- 24:03of different down stems of distribution. That
- 24:06sounds like it's become so successful that you
- 24:08might not need the food library anymore. But
- 24:10do you still have one? I do. Yeah. Yeah. About
- 24:30seven weeks ago, we moved into the cannery at
- 24:34Huber's Gasthaus. It's on Friendly Grove Road.
- 24:38It's a really great space. It was an old cannery,
- 24:41and the kind of patriarch of the Huber family
- 24:44built it, I think, back in the 30s. It's been
- 24:47various different things over the years. Oly
- 24:49Kraut was here for 15 years. Oh, Oly Kraut. I
- 24:52have heard of them. I think it's been about a
- 24:55year since they moved out. But yeah, we've been
- 24:57here. It's a lot of work to move all the stuff
- 25:00that was donated from my house. So I have one
- 25:03freezer left that was donated to us a couple
- 25:07of years ago by the McKinney's, the appliance
- 25:10store. I've been slowly giving this frozen soup
- 25:12away because it was jam -packed full of soup.
- 25:14That's the last piece of equipment that is still
- 25:17at my house that we need to bring over here.
- 25:19I plan on continuing to stockpile frozen soup
- 25:23because it's really popular. And it's the kind
- 25:25of thing somebody can just get in touch with
- 25:26me or as we're expanding, there are other people
- 25:31who are now kind of taking over different aspects
- 25:33of the foundation from me, which is great because
- 25:36I've been tired. Doing it all yourself is a hard
- 25:40job. Yeah, yeah. It's impossible. But anyway,
- 25:44yeah, so I've still got the soup library. I got
- 25:46a request yesterday from somebody, and I'm giving
- 25:49soup out to them, to Hillary, whose lovely kid
- 25:55is, I think, having a procedure, so she really
- 26:00needs some help with food. She's got a meal train
- 26:02going on. But anyway, I still am doing that to
- 26:05some extent out of my house. At some point, we'll
- 26:08empty that freezer and thaw it out and bring
- 26:10it over here. Since we moved in, I had the health
- 26:13department by the day we moved in actually, and
- 26:16just I wanted to kind of get ahead of any problems,
- 26:18kind of know what we can do here, what we can't
- 26:20do, and they were incredibly helpful. I didn't
- 26:24think we were going to be able to do hot food
- 26:26here, but the way that they've classified us
- 26:28is a Good Samaritan free food classification.
- 26:32It allows us to not necessarily have to be scrutinized
- 26:36to the extent the restaurant is, which is really
- 26:38helpful. I'm really strict about hygiene. We're
- 26:41going to follow all the protocols, but we're
- 26:43going to be able to do things like break down
- 26:46a 25 -pound bag of rice into one -pound servings.
- 26:50If you're doing that through a restaurant
- 26:52kind of a situation, you either can't do it or
- 26:54there's all these sort of stipulations about
- 26:56it. So we're able to operate without a lot of
- 26:59the restrictions that I was concerned about.
- 27:02How long have you been working at it now? It's
- 27:06been about a year and a half. A year and a half?
- 27:08Yeah. And we've done a lot in a year and a half,
- 27:11but we're at the point where we're having a board,
- 27:15having all the liability insurance, having all
- 27:17the legality legal stuff in place. We've got
- 27:21our first couple of paid volunteers. Taylor is
- 27:24our volunteer coordinator. We've got a huge database
- 27:27of like 300 plus people who over the last year
- 27:30and a half have asked to volunteer. It's been
- 27:32outside my ability to be very effective with
- 27:36that. It's worth the money to have somebody who
- 27:39can organize it. And she's working with a food
- 27:42bank to kind of learn how their operations work.
- 27:45And the food bank has been incredibly supportive,
- 27:48especially recently since John Ficker took over
- 27:51the directorship of that. We've met a couple
- 27:53of times and he's like all about sharing statistics
- 27:57and information and his employees teaching people
- 28:00how they do their volunteer coordination and
- 28:02also delivering to people who are homebound for
- 28:05one reason or another. We're going to move more
- 28:08into that sort of a model. We need to really
- 28:10get our delivery together. As we expand, we get
- 28:14more organized. We get more of these systemic
- 28:16processes in place. We'll be able to expand more,
- 28:20serve more people in a better way. One of the
- 28:24things I'm doing now is I'm putting in a commercial
- 28:26kitchen. Here into the cannery, this building
- 28:29right next to us? Okay. And I've been sourcing
- 28:32equipment. So far got between $25 ,000 and $30
- 28:35,000 worth of stainless steel tables and freezers
- 28:39and chest freezers. I'm getting today, actually,
- 28:43today's a really good example of, like, a full
- 28:46day for me. We're doing this interview, and then
- 28:49at 3pm, Clark Gilman from the city council is going
- 28:54to come, and we're going to chat for an hour.
- 28:56Then I've got a delivery and a pickup. And then
- 29:00there is a church that is kind of in Tumwater
- 29:04on Mottman Road, and they have this enormous
- 29:08chest freezer, I think. It's 8 or 10 feet long.
- 29:12It's the biggest chest freezer I've ever seen
- 29:14that's not in a grocery store or something. And
- 29:19they're donating that to us. So we just get all
- 29:23this stuff. And everything that I can get donated,
- 29:26that $500 or $1 ,000 or $1 ,500, is stuff that
- 29:31I can keep to facilitate feeding people, either
- 29:34with buying food or all the costs of operation.
- 29:47And like I said, we're off to a good start. You
- 29:49know, 11, 1200 food portions a week is pretty
- 29:52good. But once we get situated here, and it's
- 29:56going to be another month and a half of getting
- 29:58more shelving units and more equipment to be
- 30:00able to really start cooking here, we can do
- 30:03cold food preparation. Last week, we put together
- 30:05these basic boxes of non -perishables, 36 together
- 30:10for community members. So at least they have
- 30:12the base ingredients to be able to make some
- 30:14healthy meals. And then if they've got vegetables
- 30:16or meat or perishable stuff, it just takes away
- 30:18that initial 30 bucks or 40 bucks they would
- 30:21have to spend for food. So we can do that now,
- 30:23but things are always taking longer than I think.
- 30:28I kind of want everything yesterday. Realistically,
- 30:31I think in two months we'll have a functioning
- 30:35kitchen here and we can start having teams of
- 30:38people come in and preparing food for some of
- 30:41the things we're already connected with, and
- 30:43I'm always trying to network and find out who's
- 30:46making what and who needs support through especially
- 30:49food ingredients. By the fall, probably, I'm
- 30:53assuming we'll be able to, instead of 1 ,200
- 30:56meal portions, have something between 4 ,000
- 30:59to 5 ,000 per week. And then that will be a good...
- 31:02When that happens, I'm not going to try to expand
- 31:04beyond that for a while because that's going
- 31:07to be a good, reasonable thing that we can do.
- 31:09Having people here maybe five days a week, we
- 31:12have a really good board and we've been talking
- 31:14a lot about me being able to do the things that
- 31:17I'm good at and not being spread so thin. So
- 31:20we're actively working on that. I'm really good
- 31:23at fundraising. I'm good at networking. I'm good
- 31:25at creative ways to address where other people
- 31:29see problems. I'm like, okay, well, we can do
- 31:31this or this or this, you know, like I never
- 31:33think, okay, it's at an end, we can't go forward.
- 31:36But there's always something you can do. Speaking
- 31:38of creative ways on how to address problems,
- 31:40how's the children's book on soup going? Oh,
- 31:44we finished it about eight months ago. Nice.
- 31:46Yeah. Is it a fully illustrated and published?
- 31:50Where can we find this book? If you go to foodsourcefoundation
- 31:54.org, there's a link there where you can buy
- 31:56it. That link takes more money than I'd like.
- 32:00Although if people want to do it, it's totally
- 32:01fine. But if they buy it from me, which they
- 32:05can, you can just message me on Facebook and
- 32:07I can always hook them up with a copy. It's 25
- 32:09bucks. I sign every copy and it's meant to be
- 32:12a book that encourages parents and children to
- 32:16cook together, to teach kids how to cook. And
- 32:19there's a message of community that goes through
- 32:21the whole thing. It's just like sort of a cartoony
- 32:23version of Souper Sunday and how that group works.
- 32:27I'm glad that it was able to be completed. When
- 32:29I was listening and I heard that you're working
- 32:31on it, I was like, that's a great way to have
- 32:33something to access to the community that lets
- 32:35people start that process in their own homes
- 32:38and then bring it to their families directly
- 32:41that way. Absolutely. I think I've sold 250 copies
- 32:44or so, maybe 300. Every single penny of that
- 32:47goes directly to the Food Source Foundation.
- 32:49Roxanne Groves, who's the talented artist who
- 32:53illustrated it, has donated her work, so she
- 32:55doesn't make anything either. What is the title
- 32:57of the book? Bear's Souper Sunday Cookbook Recipes
- 33:01for Hungry Animals. Bear's Souper Sunday Cookbook
- 33:04Recipes for Hungry Animals. That's correct. And
- 33:08it sounds very cute. It is, and it's funny. I'm
- 33:12really proud of it. I can be a fairly dark, cynical
- 33:15person. So let's make a children's book. Yeah,
- 33:19yeah. It was very interesting and a challenge
- 33:23for me to put myself in the innocence of childhood
- 33:28and knowing who the audience was going to be,
- 33:30not having any irony or whatever. It was hard.
- 33:36It felt silly. to be that, like I said, that
- 33:39innocent sort of vibe. But once I got the hang
- 33:42of it, it became much easier. And it's a very
- 33:47kind book. And there's like a sense of humor
- 33:51and community. Like I said, each of the soups
- 33:54is represented by a woodland animal. So for example,
- 33:59African peanut soup is represented by squirrel.
- 34:14Bear is sort of the matriarch of the book and
- 34:18makes the soups, that kind of thing. One of the
- 34:21kind of funny parts of it is I didn't plan for
- 34:24it to be a vegetarian cookbook. You can't necessarily
- 34:27make a chicken dish knowing that here's this
- 34:31chicken character that you're forming a relationship
- 34:34with. So it had to be a vegetarian book, although
- 34:37I'm not a vegetarian personally. I can imagine
- 34:41if I had a nine -to -five job and a couple of
- 34:44kids, all the stuff that a parent has to go through
- 34:47or a caregiver, that putting together a meal
- 34:49on top of that can be exhausting. My heart goes
- 34:52out to all the individuals that have to take
- 34:55care of their families and that have a legacy
- 34:58that they grew up with perhaps that they're trying
- 35:01to keep going of providing food to their children
- 35:04or cooking like their parents cooked for them
- 35:08or try to cook better than that. Just holding
- 35:11steady of you have to manage a household, that
- 35:14work on its own is a full -time job. And juggling
- 35:18that with your own full -time job, it can be
- 35:21so exhausting. It can be so exhausting to be
- 35:24somebody raising a family. And that's part of
- 35:27the Souper Sunday idea is that it's in the founding
- 35:33documents that it's available to anybody who
- 35:36wants or needs it. If you're an artist who's
- 35:40really like living day to day without a lot of
- 35:43money, you're welcome to pick soup up. If you're
- 35:46a hardworking parent who is at the end of the
- 35:50day and you're just exhausted, like you can pick
- 35:52three or four soups for your family and maybe
- 35:55we'll have some bread too and it'll be a good
- 35:57healthy meal. If you're a student and you're
- 35:59working really hard, having a hard time getting
- 36:02by, really scrambling to make ends meet, you're
- 36:05welcome to pick food up. That was the Souper Sunday
- 36:07idea. That idea is imbued in everything that
- 36:11we do at the Food Source Foundation as well.
- 36:12The idea that you only deserve free food if you're
- 36:16homeless and you've spent your last dollar, I
- 36:19think is kind of bull. It shouldn't be desperate.
- 36:21We should be able to have a meal if we want or
- 36:25need it. And the reality is that very few people
- 36:29will exploit that system. I see us all as jewels
- 36:33with all kinds of different facets. Some of them
- 36:37shine bright. Some of them are dark. You'll run
- 36:39into people whose facets are mostly dark, and
- 36:42you're fine to not engage with that person, but
- 36:45you can at least recognize that they're part
- 36:47of the human family. So having an open -door
- 36:50policy is the only way I could ever imagine doing
- 36:52this. It's the same value system that the Thurston
- 36:57County Food Bank has because food is a human
- 37:00right, and it's not just for either people
- 37:04who have enough money to pay for it, or people
- 37:07who are getting SNAP benefits. It's for people
- 37:11who are falling through the cracks in one way
- 37:13or another, or maybe who just need the warm embrace
- 37:17that a healthy, free soup is going to give them.
- 37:21Highly processed foods are often, if not most
- 37:24of the time, not only not beneficial for people,
- 37:28But there's a level of toxicity. I'm a huge proponent
- 37:32of whole foods. But at the same time, we live
- 37:35in a world with a lot of rough edges and nothing's
- 37:38perfect. So I like the 80 -20 rule. If I can
- 37:42eat good quality whole foods 80 % of the time
- 37:45and then 20 % whatever else I want to eat, I
- 37:49think I'm doing pretty good. It's important to
- 37:52realize that what you're trying to give somebody
- 37:54is... not just meal or nutrients but the power
- 37:59of a choice yeah sure when so many times they
- 38:02may feel pushed into a corner where the only
- 38:05thing they can afford for that moment or that
- 38:08night is an unhealthy meal or unhealthy not even
- 38:12a meal like a half of a meal giving somebody
- 38:15a choice the agency to choose is important not
- 38:19everyone is going to be able to have access to
- 38:23the best food at all the time. Or the time to
- 38:25put it together. But having that choice is really
- 38:28important. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And again, those
- 38:31two things can take place in the same space.
- 38:34You can encourage people to eat as best as they
- 38:36can and also acknowledge the fact that people's
- 38:39situations, everyone is different and they might
- 38:42not have the money, they might not have the time.
- 38:44Being able to put a TV dinner in, it's going
- 38:46to feed them to some extent. At the same time,
- 38:49I really do try to point people in the direction
- 38:52of how important it is to have a nutrient -dense
- 38:57and nutritious diet to the best of their ability.
- 39:20To switch gears a little bit, could you talk
- 39:23about some specific groups that you do provide
- 39:25support with with the Food Source Foundation?
- 39:29You mentioned earlier the Tenino Food Bank. Could
- 39:31you name a couple other groups that you connect
- 39:34with? Yeah, sure. As far as the receiving part
- 39:37of it, I get that big delivery from Tenino. There
- 39:41is a woman, Nona, who works with a group called
- 39:46The Glory Table. They bring a lot of food down
- 39:49and distribute it to a lot of different places.
- 39:51Every Tuesday, I get a delivery from her. There
- 39:54are various different restaurants in town who
- 39:56donate. Our newest one is a Gold Standard. Elise
- 40:00Landry, I believe it is. Apparently, she was
- 40:02on one or more of these competitive shows and
- 40:05won. And she started this restaurant about a
- 40:08month and a half ago. So, so far every week,
- 40:11she's been giving me these two enormous tubs,
- 40:13maybe 40 or 50 pounds of fried chicken. because
- 40:17if you don't sell it after a certain point, I
- 40:20can't remember how many hours or whatever, but
- 40:22she puts it in her walk -in and once a week I
- 40:25go and pick up food that I then further distribute
- 40:27to various different organizations and individuals.
- 40:30Another new one is Fungi Perfecti. Yeah. This
- 40:34is Paul Stamets' company. I have a few friends
- 40:37who work there and have known about them for
- 40:39forever. They have officially now allowed us
- 40:43to tell people that they're a sponsor of ours.
- 40:46Last week, 12 employees came and spent the day
- 40:49here helping us clean. There were some repairs,
- 40:52and they also brought a whole bunch of kitchen
- 40:55stuff to donate. Paul Stamets is the guy who
- 40:58started it. He was a Greener. He's really brilliant.
- 41:01He's become this rock star. They've been incredibly
- 41:03supportive. They're really going out of their
- 41:05way to help us. Um.. the restaurant that I was
- 41:08trying to think of earlier, Hops and Drops is
- 41:10a restaurant and they'll like over order something
- 41:14or have something that is like reached the best
- 41:18um best buy date and you know, we'll drop off
- 41:23several cases of chicken wings or all kinds of
- 41:27stuff... fajita meat And then you'll have to freeze
- 41:30that right then and there or you'll have to distribute
- 41:32that that day with your own network? How does
- 41:35that work out? Everything goes directly into
- 41:36the freezer or fridge depending on what it is.
- 41:39And I'm really strict about not leaving stuff
- 41:42out because foodborne illness is a real thing
- 41:47and that's my main objective is to keep everything
- 41:50safe. And then I guess secondly, things that
- 41:56are... You know, good quality food, not highly
- 41:59processed food. Because none of us need that.
- 42:13You told me a story earlier of the woman that
- 42:17was living out of her car when she first connected
- 42:19with you with the Souper Sunday. Yeah, Allie.
- 42:22Allie. That's a great success on its own just
- 42:24to help one person. What are some of your favorite
- 42:27success stories that you've gotten to be part
- 42:30of? We interviewed three different women whose
- 42:33lives have been changed by the process. One woman,
- 42:37Hannah, Hannah Justis, who owns Busy Bee Automotive.
- 42:41She said that starting her own Souper Sunday group
- 42:43has drastically changed her life for the better.
- 42:47There are just so many positive offshoots and
- 42:49so many relationships that have been formed with
- 42:51people who are getting together, all with the
- 42:54sense of community, goodwill, celebrating our
- 42:57humanity. I did get a message shortly after that
- 43:01KOMO story was released, and it was a woman who
- 43:04was in, I think, Nevada, and she had been really
- 43:08depressed and was considering suicide one night
- 43:11when she saw the story, and she said it gave
- 43:14her just enough sort of hope to seek help the
- 43:18next day. And I don't know what to do with that.
- 43:22That's like humbling me. I'm just facilitating
- 43:25this idea. I was really depressed before I started
- 43:29doing this. Coming off of COVID and isolation,
- 43:33and I'd lost my business a couple of years before
- 43:35that, just rudderless in the world. And now I
- 43:38have the gift of clear focus, something that
- 43:41I'm excited to get up for every day, a sense
- 43:44of purpose, and this huge sense of community
- 43:48now with all the different people who are benefiting
- 43:50from me sharing my story about this and being
- 43:54involved, you know, boots on the ground involved.
- 43:57There's this wonderful woman when we serve over
- 43:59here at the church on Fridays. She brings in
- 44:02table linens, and then she comes back at the
- 44:05end and picks them up. That's the one thing she
- 44:08does, and it just improves everything by that
- 44:12much. For people to come in and feel like, wow,
- 44:15this is a really nice distribution where it makes
- 44:18them feel valued. Everybody's contributing in
- 44:21this one way or another. Do that one thing and
- 44:24it makes a difference in the world that is incredibly...
- 44:28you know, we're in a dire position right now
- 44:31of needing to heal all the negativity and divisiveness
- 44:38and hatred that's going on. It's toxicity that
- 44:43seems to have been... People are given permission
- 44:51to be their worst selves now from a lot of different
- 44:54places. And, you know, that can't go unaddressed.
- 45:00And like you were saying, agency is really important.
- 45:04And the agency we have is being able to, like,
- 45:08cook that meal or... bring those linens or chat
- 45:14with somebody who just needs to be acknowledged
- 45:19as a human being. If people want to come volunteer,
- 45:31should they contact Taylor? Should they shoot
- 45:33an email? At this point still, it's best if you
- 45:36just message me. On Facebook? On Facebook. Okay.
- 45:40Or you can send an email to goodthingsmatter
- 45:43at gmail .com, just the way it sounds. And then
- 45:46I just forward that stuff to her and she plugs
- 45:49it in and she's still working on the front end
- 45:51of the database that we've been working on and
- 45:54making that functional. The South Sound Resource
- 45:56Guide also has a link to get in touch with volunteer
- 46:00opportunities with you as well. That's right.
- 46:02Is there a place maybe on your website for direct
- 46:05donations that people can look for? There is.
- 46:08If you go to foodsourcefoundation .org, off to
- 46:12the right there's a donate button. It's called
- 46:14Zeffy, and it's a really good system, totally
- 46:17secure. It allows people to donate. Our laser
- 46:20-light focus on donations now is our Many Hands
- 46:24campaign. The Many Hands campaign is crucial
- 46:28to our sustainability. and it's off to a good
- 46:31start. The idea is if an individual commits to
- 46:34donating 25 cents a day 7 .50 monthly if a lot
- 46:39of people do it it can make a huge difference
- 46:41there's a link on my facebook group and there's
- 46:45a qr code my facebook group is soupersundayfree
- 46:49soupforall If you go to that group on Facebook,
- 46:52you'll be able to find a link there. That's really
- 46:55important. We currently have enough money coming
- 46:58in from those monthly donations to handle every
- 47:01single expense associated with the new cannery
- 47:03location. That's impressive. That's covering
- 47:06all your expenses for this new location just
- 47:09from that? Yeah, and the expenses are basically
- 47:12rent and our dumpster because the landlords have
- 47:16been really gracious in electricity and other
- 47:19utilities. That's actually really fortunate that
- 47:22you're able to have landlords that do that for
- 47:24you. Yeah, no kidding. That's very impressive. Because so many
- 47:26of those, like electricity alone can be so expensive
- 47:30with how many freezers and refrigerators you're
- 47:33running and with the costs of maintaining a kitchen
- 47:36in there. That can be very expensive for people.
- 47:39And I've been really clear that if those costs
- 47:42go up, we'll talk and we can kick in some more
- 47:45money for that stuff because they are really
- 47:47helping us out. I know they're going to have
- 47:49solar panels put on this summer. That should
- 47:51be a good investment for them and for everybody.
- 47:55Is that solar panel through Olympia Community
- 47:57Solar? I don't know. I'll have to ask Christina,
- 48:01but I'll find out for sure. That'd be really
- 48:04cool. Yeah, that would be a good thing. They're
- 48:06a great organization. Do you have any events
- 48:24coming up that you want to let listeners know
- 48:27about in the future? It can be next week. It
- 48:29can be next month. Yeah, a couple of things I
- 48:32could talk about. On the 29th, Mike Kelly, who
- 48:36has got this great project, he gets and refurbishes
- 48:40old computers that would otherwise end up in
- 48:42the landfill and puts his own proprietary thing
- 48:46on them. And they're safe from hackers and viruses.
- 48:51And he gives them to low -income people in the
- 48:54community for free. And we're going to do a Souper Computer
- 48:57event at 3 Mags Brewery on the 29th. It's a Friday
- 49:02from 3 to 7pm. He's going to give away computers,
- 49:06and he's going to have a lot of them. And then
- 49:09I'm going to give away soup and solicit contributions
- 49:12for the Many Hands campaign. And as an aspect
- 49:15of that, I have got these really nice kitchen
- 49:18knives that I'm going to be giving people at
- 49:20different levels as a premium for monthly donations.
- 49:24Right on. That sounds like a great event. Free
- 49:26computers, free soup, and then if you want to
- 49:30contribute, you get some really good equipment.
- 49:32Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like
- 49:47to share? We could use some help. For quite a
- 49:51while, I've been trying to get a delivery system
- 49:53together. There are a lot of different reasons
- 49:54why people are in need of delivery. It can be
- 49:57as simple as like your car needs repair and you
- 50:00don't have the money to repair it and you're
- 50:02food insecure. There are people who have mental
- 50:04health issues. There are people who had an operation
- 50:07or a procedure and they can't walk for like two
- 50:11and a half months. So all that is true. There
- 50:14are people who are elderly and disabled and all
- 50:16those people are just as deserving of food as
- 50:19you and I are. So one of the things we've been
- 50:21looking for is somebody who is proficient at
- 50:24organizing a delivery system. We can pair them
- 50:28with the Thurston County Food Bank and figure
- 50:30out how they're doing it so we don't have to
- 50:32reinvent the wheel. Another thing that I'd like
- 50:35to mention is that I am eager to get together
- 50:38with some other organizations. to be able to
- 50:41use our cannery location as a food hub. We've
- 50:45talked about it for a long time in Olympia, those
- 50:47of us who've been involved in food sovereignty.
- 50:50And we had, it's been about 12 years, we had
- 50:54a big kind of food get together over a weekend
- 50:57with guest speakers and breakout sessions. And
- 51:02what came out of it was Olympia needed some sort
- 51:05of a food hub just for... could be emergency reasons,
- 51:09you know, like a volcano event or something,
- 51:11or it could be distribution lines get cut off
- 51:14for one of a hundred different reasons. So anyway,
- 51:18I'm finally in the position where I can make
- 51:20that happen. We'd like to involve other organizations
- 51:23that are dedicated to issues of food sovereignty
- 51:26that would dovetail with us and be able to operate
- 51:30out of here. And I would love to hear from people
- 51:33and network about... how to make that happen
- 51:36in the best possible way. And that's it. I really
- 51:39appreciate you guys. And it was a great interview.
- 51:42Chris, thank you so much for your time. I appreciate
- 51:44it as well. Souper Sunday and Food Source Foundation provide meals Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays from 6-7pm across from the Olympia Transit Center
- 52:06at the corner of State and Washington, and at
- 52:10Peace Lutheran Brethren Church on Fridays from
- 52:145 to 6 p .m., located at 2242 Friendly Grove
- 52:19Road Northeast in Olympia. If you are interested
- 52:24in volunteering, you can message Chris Hyde directly
- 52:27through his Facebook group, SouperSundayFree
- 52:31SoupforAll. or email him at goodthingsmatter
- 52:35at gmail .com. You can send monetary donations
- 52:40through his Facebook group link or by visiting
- 52:43foodsourcefoundation .org. That's it for today's
- 52:56Resource Report, produced by Pathways to Agency.
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