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Sister Wives S5 E8 - Hard to Say Goodbye - Part 2 · My Sister Wives Podcast

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  What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
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  Goodbye. You shut it off.
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  Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim,
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  sweetie. Just look at the mountain.
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  That's what you saw. That day, just the knife in the
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  kidneys over all these years and
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  love you. We're at season 5 episode 8 hard
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  to say goodbye. It's not that hard for Kody's
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  hair to say goodbye, as we are
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  Kennedy, the hair stylist of the
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  Hair stylist of the stars, OH.
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  Brown. Oh, this better be on her
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  fucking LinkedIn, that's what I'm saying.
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  It better be because she made that surfer hair happen for at
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  least one year. It's true.
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  It's true. So welcome back to Part 2 of
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  this fabulous episode where we
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  dire straits. And everyone was probably going,
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  what the hell is going on with
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  And we're going to continue on
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  Kody is sitting in a stylus chair being spun around, but in
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  a living room, and I'm going like what the fuck am I seeing?
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  What is happening here? Well, it all makes sense, even
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  though it doesn't make sense. There's like a Baker's rack with
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  all of her charcuterie of hair
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  Of hair products, yes. Oh my God.
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  She has some concerns. Kody is at a hair appointment
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  with Kennedy. Kennedy is doing Kody's hair and
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  Kennedy does Kody and Meri's hair.
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  They let us know she. Does.
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  So this is not just Kody's stylist, this is also Meri's
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  stylist. And she has some concerns about
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  Kody's hair, and she should have
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  Meri's hair, but she has concerns about Kody's hair and
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  she says it's looking thinner and thinner.
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  Yes, as time goes on, it's thinner and thinner, which OK.
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  Over the last year that she's done it OK.
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  Oh well. Also what I love is when she's
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  speaking, there's a lot of arms and pauses like she's like your
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  hair. It's looking thinner.
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  As time goes on, it seems like
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  thinner and I'm like, bitch, they should have filmed her for
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  five to 10 minutes before doing this.
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  They needed to have her talk about her childhood or something
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  first to loosen up, because as
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  listening to someone who's never
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  She's like harping on and on, but in a way that's nonsensical.
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  Yeah, a little bit. I mean, she's getting to the
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  point, but it's a little like,
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  And Kody talks about his attachment to his hair.
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  He's like, I'm just a little attached.
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  This is crazy. Today it's not going to look
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  bad. Today it's not going to look
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  bad. Why is he saying today it's not
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  going to look bad? It already looks bad.
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  He goes, but leaving here one of
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  my wife's mind if I just shaved it off.
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  I don't know why you're under the impression that your hair
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  looks good right now and that eventually it will look bad.
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  It already looks bad, but that's
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  OK? Your wives will be very upset if
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  you cut that hair off. Yeah, he makes some bad jokes
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  about just shaving and it's obviously like a tee up and he's
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  like, well, let's just shave it.
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  And then Beautiful Kennedy goes over to her charcuterie board of
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  holding it all awkwardly. Like it's obviously a setup and
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  it's so cheesy and it's so dumb.
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  She's just standing there with
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  it's vibrating. Like I was going to say Meri's
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  vibrator, but I don't know if any of these women ever, Oh,
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  Janelle vibrate. Let's go.
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  Janelle vibrator. And Kody, of course, has to say
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  I'm just kidding. I was just kidding.
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  And Kennedy is like, oh, I was
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  with your wives first. Oh my.
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  Gosh, she's studying there like an idiot.
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  Just like. So corny and bad.
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  Oh my God. She's like harping on this idea
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  of him needing to cut his hair
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  a sudden it's got worse. And so it's very obvious to me
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  that this is a tee up, like it's
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  within the Brown family about the hair, especially because we
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  know that Kody Brown's hair is a
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  His fifth wife. I just think that this is an
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  unfortunate thing for Kennedy to
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  stylist, you might think this is
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  it's bad publicity. I would say in most ways it's a
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  bad publicity stunt. And the fact that she just keeps
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  bringing it up and talking about
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  the haircut is bad. And then I'm like, hey, bitch,
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  She ever thought of layers? Because on a man like this, with
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  like softer hair, thinning hair,
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  like this Bob cut. You would soften it up.
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  You would layer it so that it had more balance, had more body.
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  And she's giving him this like
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  looks like John Smith from Pocahontas, and not in a good
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  way. What are you doing to this man's
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  hair? The whole bit is so awkward,
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  like. I'd be embarrassed.
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  Annoying and fake laughter. And this is The thing is like, I
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  didn't want to start this episode by being mean about
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  Kennedy. God bless Kennedy.
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  Maybe she's a good person. Kennedy, if you're listening,
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  sorry, but this is ridiculous.
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  for so long and I would never do
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  this day, if people were like, you're going to be on TV.
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  You want to cut this like celebrities quote UN quote
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  celebrity's hair and will you please just repeat what we tell
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  you to say? Right.
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  I wouldn't have done it because that's my business on the line.
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  I mean, who was going to see this and never want to get their
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  hair cut by her? Well, you know, she's a friend
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  of Kody and Meri's, so she's. And the whole Sister Wives clan,
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  apparently. She says she thinks the wives
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  would be unhappy with a buzz cut.
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  Then she says she doesn't think he has much of A choice.
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  I've noticed a significant difference in the last year of
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  doing your hair. Kody cracks a terrible joke
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  about approaching the side of a Cliff and realizing you need to
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  back up, blah blah blah. This whole scene is so trite,
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  it's terrible, Kody says. My wives love the long hair.
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  They love this shaggy server look.
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  He makes a joke about parting it
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  over from the middle to each side to cover the beating part
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  on the left and the right. You know a lot of men do that.
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  And no shame in the balding hair
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  The shame here comes to Kennedy for giving him the Little
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  Drummer Boy look and the Ariana Grande look from the SNL skit
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  of the castrato and not adding
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  My favorite part of the scene though is when she has his hair
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  up in clips or whatever and as
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  It means that and. She right, right, like the four
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  strands of hair are up in a clip.
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  And she's like, I've been doing your hair for a year now and
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  I've noticed a pretty significant difference,
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  especially in this area. And like circles is like balding
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  scalp. And I'm like, Oh my God, this is
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  so good. It was fabulous footage, I must
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  say, Kennedy says. I don't know how much more time
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  we have left before your surfer look is no longer a surfer
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  look, and you look more like a Grandpa Kody's like, yeah,
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  Grandpa surfer, right? I'm not ready for that.
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  It's like, Oh my God. Oh my God, why are we seeing
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  this? Why is this happening?
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  Please make it stop. Please make it stop.
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  This all ties into the next scene here where we go to
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  Janelle's house for breakfast.
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  Yes, it's breakfast time and it's Logan's last full day at
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  home. He's going to the university.
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  He'll move his stuff in that day
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  time away officially from home.
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  Janelle's letting us know in the kitchen.
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  And it's cute because when she's talking about it, she's doing
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  the whole, you know, like mom faux crying voice for a second,
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  you know, like, oh, it's his first time.
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  He's going to be gone officially.
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  And it's like, oh, OK, Janelle, he's.
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  Excited and sad and like, yeah, carried away.
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  So Janelle's doing breakfast for her family that morning, and
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  their plan is to do a larger entire family meal later in the
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  day. They reference it as lunch.
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  I'm going like, Oh my God, how many meals do you need in a
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  couple hours? So hopefully it's the later
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  lunch or. Something actually large meals.
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  Well, if you're her and you wake
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  up at 4:00 AM. Yeah, she's starving.
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  And breakfast is at six and lunch would be at what, 11?
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  So dinner's at 4:00. It could happen.
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  I'm just. Going to go to bed at 7:00 it.
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  Could happen, it could happen.
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  breakfast, so we to give a little visual like the kids are
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  around the table. Logan, Hunter, Maddie, I'm not
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  sure if Savannah, I don't know
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  Whatever, some kids and Janelle is in the kitchen and they're
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  kind of talking over the Peninsula, the bar thing going
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  back and forth. And Janelle says, Logan,
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  everybody wants to see your dorm.
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  Is it too embarrassing for everybody to come like later in
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  the day? Which I love this question
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  because of course he's like everybody.
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  She's like, well, the adults and
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  I'm like, Oh my God, this is so good that she gives the
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  clarifier of like, no, not everybody, just the adults.
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  And he's like, all of them. Like, Oh my God, like how many
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  adults? How many people?
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  Like, oh, and this poor kid, you
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  to college. He says.
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  I'm nervous about going to college with this public family.
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  Like I'm curious to know how my peers, my friends, and how dorm
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  neighbors will perceive A polygamist lifestyle.
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  Yeah, he's like the public profile and the dorm mates
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  judging the polygamist lifestyle
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  I just don't know about it and.
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  Very reasonable. I mean, you, there's already
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  enough on your mind when you're going to any school experience,
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  starting any school, be it middle, you know, elementary, of
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  college, whatever. There's a lot happening.
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  There's a lot on your mind. You're nervous about the change
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  and he's going to stay in a dorm.
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  There's all new people. And then your mom's like, do you
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  Like, Oh my God, I don't know if I'd push back.
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  But there's not even enough room for five parents to drop.
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  Like, OK, there's not even enough room for Kody's ego.
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  Like, mom, just you, please. That's what I would say.
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  Yes, not even enough room for Kody's ego in the dorm room.
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  Not enough room. Not enough room, I'll tell you
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  kids at the table, Logan's like, where's dad?
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  And Janelle says because he's your dad, it's just your dad.
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  And it's so interesting that he's asking like, where is we're
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  kind of waiting for the meal to start.
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  And Janelle's, you know, pretending to be Susie Homemaker
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  Someone else, probably Logan, probably made all the breakfast
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  and she like popped out some toast and buttered.
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  It she hinted at before. Yes, yeah.
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  And then it's like, where's dad? And it's like, well, you know,
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  It's like, where is this diva? The entire family?
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  Well, Janelle and Kody's immediate family are sitting
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  around the table to start breakfast.
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  And Kody's like, coming in late, blah, blah, blah.
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  His hair, his sweaty shirt from his back, sweat and blah blah.
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  Jesus, like finally Kody shows up to breakfast on the day that
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  his son is leaving to college. OK.
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  Thank you for gracing us with your presence, Kody.
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  Yeah, no shit. Janelle had said previously that
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  mornings. Yeah, and then you've got Dad
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  rolling in who knows how fucking late with the cold eggs on the
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  he's like good morning. And it's like the kids are
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  talking about how they're already done eating.
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  Like, Oh my God, this is ridiculous.
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  And this is when we get a lovely precious Pearl from Maddie.
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  What does Maddie say to her dear Daddy?
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  Oh my God. Well, Hunter and Maddie sat in
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  balding. And Maddie says, Dad, you're
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  balding. Like straight up says you're
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  balding. And Kody's like, Maddie, stop
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  talking about me balding. It's not funny.
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  It's like a personal slam. How would you feel if somebody
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  and he's like, quit talking about my bald spot.
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  It's like a personal slam. Oh my God.
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  And then we've got Maddie and Hunter on the couch after this,
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  talking about how their dad is doing the comb over from the
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  middle and the yadda yadda yadda.
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  Like, you know, I guess it's what you got to do when you're
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  on and the haircut and the Kennedy situation.
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  And Janelle says that he did have it short once and it was
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  atrocious. And I'm looking at this photo
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  that they put up and he looks exactly like Logan.
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  You're telling us and you're telling your husband that it
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  looked atrocious. And I shit you not, Logan has
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  the same exact haircut that they're cutting back and forth
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  parent, harping on your own insecurities in front of your
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  children is fucking embarrassing and you should be ashamed of it
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  because you're making your children feel insecure about the
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  And you talking about how shitty his hair looks and how he'll
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  look dumb bald and all of his kids are sitting around the
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  table. His boys are sitting around the
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  table, his girls are sitting around the table.
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  And it doesn't matter what gender you are, your parents
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  play a part in your traits and you're harping on and on about
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  much you hate it. And they're going to lose their
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  hair potentially. And he looks exactly like his
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  fucking son in the next scene with a shaved head as he does in
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  Which he doesn't even look bad, which is what I don't
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  understand. The shot is like of a guy with a
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  Like he looks perfectly fine. He doesn't look worse than he
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  does with his surfer hair, which, whatever.
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  Honestly, they should be ashamed and I'm going to get on my
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  soapbox about that. Because like, moms, quit talking
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  front of your daughters. Dads quit talking about your
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  nose side profile view or your balding hair in front of your
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  kids. Let's make differences in
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  ourselves great again, dare I say?
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  Oh God, Oh, take that one back. Let's make differences in
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  ourselves, OK? Again.
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  Like that is the thing that I miss most about movies from the
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  90s and 2000s and celebrities and people in general is our
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  differences. And talking about how much you
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  a few times and that's OK because we all have things we
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  hate about ourselves. But to do a whole segment about
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  how atrocious someone looks and how grossed out you are?
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  And we're going to get more into this because they each have a
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  comment to degrade Kody's hair. And I'm not standing up for
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  Kody, but like, let's also stand up for our kids and the traits
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  And I know I've complained about things to you and I know that
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  there are things that I hate. But to say them like in front of
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  Like these are my own insecurities that I have to deal
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  And I even said in the last episode or like 2 episodes ago,
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  I made a joke. We were talking about girl math
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  and I said well girl math's about food.
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  And I'm like thinking to myself back on it.
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  And I'm like, no, that's actually my own insecurity.
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  And girl math to me is like about calories.
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  And so I thought about it and I like, you know, texted Chris and
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  Like, I don't know why I said that, but in my mind, like, girl
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  And I can call myself out for it now and be like, wow, the first
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  thought that came to my head when it came to girl mouth was
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  I've had my entire life. You know, and I don't think that
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  actual picture of me and know that at one point, like I was
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  over 200 lbs and I'm 55. Like that was a big deal for me.
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  my entire adult life, you know, with having kids and losing
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  weight and then having another
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  It's fucking hard. And to harp on that in front of
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  your children and be cracking jokes and then your kids are
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  cracking jokes and you're shaming your own kids for
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  cracking a joke that you've cracked yourself about yourself.
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  Like you're teaching your children to hate parts of
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  themselves that are inevitable.
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  Sorry. Unless they have the money to
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  intervene. And we don't all have the money
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  to intervene. And these trends when it comes
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  trend, you might not have the money to fix it for the next
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  trend. So it's all like this circular
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  their dad's hair but he actually legitimately gets mad
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  at them for the jokes when they were teed up for the jokes.
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  for making jokes that they were teed up for and you can tell
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  his ego is taking a hit and he's
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  He was definitely upset by it.
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  about it. When the adults were on the
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  couch talking about this exchange and like how Kennedy
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  keeps telling him that his hair is thinning, et cetera, et
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  cetera, Robyn says to Meri. You left him alone at a salon.
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  And I thought it was so ridiculous.
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  It was so classic Robyn to like,
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  and it's like, Oh my God, girl, get a grip.
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  Saying that to Meri, because Meri and Kody get their hair cut
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  at the same place. I'm like, how many different
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  stylist do you guys need? What's happening here, Meri?
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  'S like I wasn't even there. I wasn't with him.
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  I didn't go that time. So dumb.
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  And Christine says that when he had short hair, she was grossed
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  out. She was grossed out by it.
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  Kody's like you were grossed out
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  what the fuck? Like grossed out.
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  The photo that they showed once again was not unattractive.
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  I do, I just OK you like him with long hair.
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  It's not like he was some ugly
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  He looked perfectly fine. No.
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  If you would have told me that
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  photo in black and white next to
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  white, I would have been maybe
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  same person. Which is why this is pissing me
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  off so much. Yeah, definitely ridiculous.
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  Like from 1 scene to the next they're showing Kody with short
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  hair and how disgusted they are and then the next scene they're
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  going to show Logan with the same exact haircut.
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  The same haircut. It pisses me off.
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  Oh God. And then Meri says that this is
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  part of his persona. Like this is what makes him him.
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  It's his persona and Kody has to
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  has liked his hair is after he
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  the time that you grew it out after you were married.
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  They show pictures of him after he's married to both Meri and
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  Janelle. My mind is blown because it's
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  like, when did you fucking grow your hair out that you hated
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  yourself? You hated your hair even though
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  you were the belle of the ball
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  you and get married to you and
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  hated your hair until it was grown out.
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  Well, when Meri says, you know, this is my favorite look, I
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  love it being long. I don't like the idea of you
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  cutting it. Kody wraps up this terrible
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  little back and forth by saying,
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  it until we've talked more. Does this like exacerbated sigh.
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  And it's like, OK, I mean, once again, what the fuck?
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  What is going on? This is all ridiculous.
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  No, he has to consult his wives before he's allowed to cut his
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  hair. And usually this goes to the
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  women. Like I've dyed my hair, you
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  know, every single color of the rainbow.
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  I've literally had like every single color in the rainbow as
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  my hair color. And I have this theory that you
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  like them how you got them. So people say you get him how
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  you got him. It's like you get him from
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  cheating, you're going to lose
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  how you got him. And I think that you like him
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  how you got him. So like if I have blonde hair
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  when we meet, you're going to like me with blonde hair our
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  entire relationship. Or if I change it, you're going
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  to be upset. And so far in my dating history,
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  and for the foreseeable future, because I am married and have
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  been married, that has been the case.
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  And I have had every single color in the book.
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  And I have had so many men give me so much shit for changing my
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  hair, cutting my hair. I've had a Pixie.
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  I've shaved my sides ball that
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  that was a thing. I've had hair down to my butt
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  crack. I've had it all.
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  And every single fucking man has
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  hair and how they like it. So Kody Brown, fuck you.
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  And you do consult your wives.
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  because I guess, and I'm thinking that they have to
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  consult you on their hair. Well, my big take away from that
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  was just that you are a wanton
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  of. Men.
• 23:35
  I am. I am.
• 23:37
  And you have the hairstyles to
• 23:39
  It I am a woman of many Shades
• 23:43
  Oh my gosh. Back at Janelle's house after
• 23:47
  breakfast, Logan is talking about being nervous to move out
• 23:50
  and be on his own. But you know, it's like a 2
• 23:53
  camera moment. He's in his room.
• 23:55
  He's like packing things up and blah blah blah.
• 23:57
  He says some things, you know, a
• 24:00
  like he needs to get a little bit.
• 24:03
  Oh God, I shouldn't even say more well spoken because listen
• 24:06
  to me, I can't even get through a sentence.
• 24:08
  But his excitement is more than the nervousness and it made my
• 24:13
  Grinch heart grow 3 sizes 'cause
• 24:16
  Like he's genuinely looking forward to this and even though
• 24:19
  he's nervous, he's excited and
• 24:22
  attitude I think. Yeah, he was cute, he said.
• 24:25
  The thrill of the new adventure is overshadowing the
• 24:27
  nervousness. Yeah.
• 24:29
  Yeah. And I thought that that was very
• 24:32
  well spoken. Yes, he was very cute and I
• 24:36
  don't know. Not to fight with what you said.
• 24:39
  Right, I love that. Right.
• 24:39
  Like I agree. He was.
• 24:42
  You're right, though. He was humming and hawing back
• 24:44
  and forth, back and forth. And he was like giving, you
• 24:47
  know, things that are good, things that are bad, what he's
• 24:49
  nervous about, what he's happy
• 24:51
  And then he ends it by saying,
• 24:53
  adventure is overshadowing the
• 24:55
  And I'm like, OK, way to wrap it
• 24:56
  You got it. After all that humming and
• 24:58
  hawing, you got it. Absolutely.
• 25:02
  So after that commercial break, we open at Meri's house.
• 25:05
  Oh, Meri, Meri, Meri, Meri, Meri.
• 25:07
  Quite contrary. Meri says that one of the things
• 25:10
  they decided to do for Logan with him going off to college is
• 25:13
  make a little video of all the
• 25:17
  him and giving him well wishes
• 25:22
  sounds nice. Sounds like a nice thing to do.
• 25:25
  But of course, because it's the Browns, it has to be a shit
• 25:28
  show. And ridiculous.
• 25:29
  Christine tells us they had Meri
• 25:32
  video because she would make sure that everyone got filmed
• 25:35
  and that it got cut. Well, she'd make sure it looked
• 25:37
  good. Oh God.
• 25:41
  So we have this footage at Meri's house where she's filming
• 25:44
  some of the kids. She starts with Savannah.
• 25:46
  We don't get any audio of Savannah.
• 25:49
  And then she films Gabriel and
• 25:52
  cheesy with his little message
• 25:55
  And then Dayton, who's serious
• 25:59
  He's wearing a wolf shirt. A wolf shirt.
• 26:02
  Like one of those Walmart. Oh, like the silhouette of the
• 26:05
  wolf in the moon? No, it's like an actual wolf's
• 26:08
  face, like one of those shirts.
• 26:11
  Yes, yes, very of the time. Yes, they're in front of her
• 26:16
  fancy lamp and next to a fancy side table of dark mahogany.
• 26:25
  Mahogany. Yes, and they're next to a
• 26:28
  tchotchke cabinet of the same mahogany.
• 26:30
  Oh God, our listeners are going to love that.
• 26:34
  They're going to love it, Mahogany.
• 26:36
  Yes, with a lot of tchotchkeys. You're right, there was a lot
• 26:39
  of. Stuff Angel tchotchkes.
• 26:42
  Dust collectors. Dust collectors.
• 26:45
  Well, I know a lot about dust collectors.
• 26:47
  I'm a tchotchke queen myself, I do say.
• 26:50
  So, well, Meri realizes that she was not recording correctly with
• 26:57
  She starts asking things like what does the green box mean and
• 27:03
  And Gabriel's trying to help her, but also like she's not
• 27:07
  really helpable. And it turns out that she was
• 27:09
  recording nothing shots and hadn't filmed any of the
• 27:12
  interviews. She was just recording the times
• 27:14
  between the interviews and Nothing while the interviews
• 27:17
  went unrecorded. Yeah, she was recording the
• 27:20
  between parts, not the actual parts.
• 27:22
  Right, because there was Savannah, Gabriel and Dayton
• 27:25
  there. She refilms them, which is when
• 27:27
  we get some more details. Not big deal, but like Savannah
• 27:30
  says, I don't want him to leave because he's been a really good
• 27:34
  Big Brother. So cute.
• 27:36
  It's so nice to Here's some nice
• 27:40
  And I think the biggest thing we
• 27:43
  ever a sex tape released during,
• 27:46
  lives, that it wasn't of her own
• 27:51
  She did not record it. That's.
• 27:54
  Lensing. Yes, if there's a sex tape for
• 27:56
  Meri Brown, it wasn't because she did it.
• 27:59
  She fucked that up. Nope, Nope, Nope.
• 28:00
  No. Meri thanks Savannah for
• 28:03
  reshooting and she says well we're 5 down and 16 to go like
• 28:07
  Oh my God. Mare, mare, mare.
• 28:09
  Yeah, she's got also a Sister Wives necklace on that looks
• 28:14
  like 4 knuckles put up, like they're going to give a knuckle
• 28:19
  sandwich and then it's got dots above all of them.
• 28:23
  And you told me that this was their.
• 28:27
  Their logo. Logo for my sister wife's
• 28:29
  closet. It's supposed to be the four
• 28:30
  wives, and so it's like 4, yeah.
• 28:33
  Knuckles or fingers it literally.
• 28:35
  Looks like a monkey's paw, like knuckles.
• 28:38
  With dots above it that's supposed to signify the four
• 28:41
  wives. It looks like a fucking paw
• 28:44
  print. Yeah, yeah, it's cheesy, cheap
• 28:49
  the design, like it was supposed to be an animal print
• 28:52
  and it looks like what animal's that and it's the brown
• 28:55
  wives. An Aardvark.
• 28:57
  No aardvark. Nardvark.
• 28:59
  Aspen being filmed, Oh my gosh, she was so cute, she says.
• 29:03
  I remember Kids Town with Logan.
• 29:05
  He invented Kids Town where we would all go out in the forest
• 29:14
  And I of course, played director.
• 29:15
  And I also thought, oh, in the forest where Drake is now
• 29:20
  buried. Yeah, no shit like.
• 29:23
  Oh no. And their other dog?
• 29:25
  What was her name? Ally.
• 29:27
  Buried in the forest, dead is. Ally.
• 29:31
  Dead is a doornail buried underground.
• 29:33
  Logan has always had a very responsible demeanor about him.
• 29:40
  He's been a very good oldest
• 29:42
  child, which ushers in the flashback of him in 2010 in
• 29:47
  Lehigh making all of his siblings breakfast before
• 29:50
  school. She says he was always driving
• 29:52
  point, especially in the mornings.
• 29:55
  Yeah, we get it. You parentified him.
• 29:57
  Moving on. Moving on, Janelle talks about
• 30:00
  having his help in the mornings and how that was really
• 30:02
  important. Christine talks about how his
• 30:05
  end of summer returns from the
• 30:08
  celebration. So they show some footage of
• 30:10
  that too, like him coming home.
• 30:12
  And then Robyn gets to chime in because of course we have to
• 30:16
  hear from our people's Princess Robyn.
• 30:18
  And she's like, that's when I fell in love with you guys being
• 30:24
  And I was like, these guys are so fun.
• 30:26
  My husband did the same as a child.
• 30:29
  He got sent to his grandparents cabin to we didn't take care of
• 30:35
  the river bend. Oh, the river bend.
• 30:38
  Yeah. Yeah, probably not any river
• 30:39
  bends in Wyoming. Probably just animal shit and
• 30:42
  burying animals. Just like Drake, just like Ally.
• 30:49
  animal in his day and how it didn't matter much.
• 30:52
  Yep, Yep, absolutely. And Kody tells us, This is why I
• 30:55
  want to get into the homes before Christmas because if we
• 30:58
  have this experience with Christmas, that may solidify so
• 31:02
  that every Christmas we can look
• 31:05
  And I'm like Oh my God all. The kids will want to come home
• 31:08
  if we solidify this memory. Everyone will want to come home
• 31:11
  for Christmas. I think being in the homes
• 31:13
  before Christmas is really important because the kids are
• 31:16
  starting to leave. So, you know, that's a little
• 31:19
  foreshadowing into like, their
• 31:22
  leaving, the kids are leaving,
• 31:24
  Logan's leaving, everyone's going to leave.
• 31:26
  Yeah. And that comes up again later in
• 31:28
  the episode, unfortunately. And oh, we are going to take a
• 31:33
  fabulous turn here to Robyn's house.
• 31:36
  It's like the signage all said, go left, go left.
• 31:38
  And we decided to go right and
• 31:41
  Robyn and Kody are in their living room discussing a quilt
• 31:45
  on the ground, a very obvious quilt.
• 31:47
  It is the size of the room. We see it has pictures of all
• 31:51
  the family members on the squares.
• 31:53
  It's red and black and crazy, and they talk about how everyone
• 31:58
  is going to sign this quilt before Logan's going away party.
• 32:02
  So of course, you know, we're putting the pieces together.
• 32:05
  This is a quilt for Logan. But you know who made it?
• 32:09
  Robyn's sister Fawn. Fawn like a deer or like
• 32:12
  something I do over a pretty boy
• 32:15
  moron. Yeah, they're all going to sign
• 32:18
  next to their photo. Because Robyn, sister Fawn,
• 32:23
  actually makes these quilts, according to Kody.
• 32:26
  So we're giving one to Logan as a going away gift in the UNLV
• 32:30
  colors. With everyone's faces sewn on
• 32:34
  it. And just so everyone knows, UNLV
• 32:37
  colors are priMeri red and black, so it is red and black.
• 32:43
  Red, black, white and faces. And Robyn?
• 32:46
  Oh God, Robyn. Now honey, you have to start
• 32:48
  this quote off right or I'm going to condemn you to hell
• 32:51
  forever. What does Robyn say?
• 32:53
  The funny thing about it is that
• 32:58
  everyone, he can flip it over and the top looks normal and
• 33:05
  it's just like Plaid. I had her put this back on it,
• 33:10
  but you know, we have to send him with something.
• 33:13
  And I'm like, Oh my God, it's the most unattractive Plaid,
• 33:16
  red, black and white thing I've ever seen.
• 33:19
  It's huge and monstrous. And what would you ever do with
• 33:22
  it as a college? Student.
• 33:23
  We had to send him with something.
• 33:25
  We had to send him with something like of course you
• 33:28
  fucking shopping hoarder bitch.
• 33:29
  We couldn't just let him go to college with like a Knick knack
• 33:32
  or a framed photo of his family.
• 33:34
  We had to send him with something that's it's going to
• 33:35
  take up his entire backseat of
• 33:37
  That your sister made full free.
• 33:39
  Robyn loves to spend money, so she probably paid her a lot to
• 33:46
  like exact this much of the budget to this because the
• 33:49
  family is going to see it and it will be OK then.
• 33:52
  It's OK to spend this. It's a gift for Logan and
• 33:55
  Robyn's like let me pull up my credit card that has her like ex
• 34:03
  his message on the quilt, across the entire fucking quilt, and
• 34:08
  say that he should be the man that God expects him to be.
• 34:14
  Yes. So it's almost like everyone's
• 34:19
  writing a little message and Kody's like I'm taking up the
• 34:22
  whole middle. What a shock.
• 34:24
  What does Kody tell us when he's doing this, honey?
• 34:26
  When you're sexually active outside of a marriage, it is
• 34:30
  unhealthy all the way around. You know it's true.
• 34:34
  So he first, he first says I should say, he says, you know,
• 34:50
  sexually active outside of a marriage is unhealthy all the
• 34:54
  way around. A testimony from God to Kody
• 34:57
  Brown to Logan Brown. And I just want to say the
• 35:02
  things that you tell your kids that they are not allowed to do
• 35:06
  today are the things that they will be ashamed of and hide from
• 35:15
  be ashamed of normal human behaviors and come to me with
• 35:21
  questions tomorrow, then shame them and tell them they're not
• 35:30
  the same tune. You never know.
• 35:32
  You never know. You know, I'm going to be like,
• 35:35
  here's how you take care of yourself and protect yourself.
• 35:46
  responsibility as a man to protect yourself and your
• 35:50
  partner and use condoms. And if they say it's OK, no, as
• 35:56
  a boy and as a man, the one way you can actually protect
• 36:00
  yourself is by wearing a condom. So Kody, you are basically
• 36:06
  shaming your children into not coming to you for advice.
• 36:12
  And I'm just putting that out there right now into the ether.
• 36:17
  I don't know.
• 36:19
  Janelle tells us I always want
• 36:23
  make all the perfect choices. But I'm also aware that my idea
• 36:27
  of a perfect choice is not his
• 36:30
  And I was like thank you Queen
• 36:34
  Like how about some well-rounded
• 36:39
  Like, of course, my kids are not
• 36:41
  thoughts that I have are the same opinions and the same
• 36:44
  values. And I hope that I raise them to
• 36:46
  be be smart about decisions, not to put your head in the sand
• 36:49
  to pretend you're not going to do anything ever for the rest of
• 36:53
  he's going to never move. He's never going to talk, he's
• 37:01
  her saying like my idea of a perfect choice isn't his idea of
• 37:10
  However he might think in hindsight, based on my morals,
• 37:19
  moving forward. Or here is how I'm going to try
• 37:21
  to rectify my mistake. Yeah, so that is.
• 37:24
  Learning lessons Learning life lessons.
• 37:27
  Imparting your wisdom and giving your kids values and morals
• 37:32
  versus giving your kids rules and stipulations. 100% if your
• 37:40
  reflective and to learn based on your values and what you've
• 37:43
  provided them as lessons. I even tell, like my nieces and
• 37:47
  nephews, I'm going to be your auntie that you can come to, you
• 37:57
  But I always want you to be able
• 37:59
  And I've told my sister and I've
• 38:06
  well, these little kids that you're entrusting me to be a
• 38:10
  part of their life, like my nieces and nephews.
• 38:13
  You're entrusting me to help guide them.
• 38:16
  And so I want them to be comfortable to come to me.
• 38:18
  If they're not comfortable coming to you and vice versa,
• 38:21
  you know, you're not always comfortable coming to your own
• 38:24
  parents. And hopefully you have someone
• 38:26
  else in your life that you're comfortable going to.
• 38:29
  And I had that person in my life.
• 38:30
  So I think Janelle's outtake on this is really freaking cool.
• 38:34
  And this could be, could be the great thing about Sister Wives,
• 38:40
  right? If it played out that way.
• 38:41
  Right is being able to have open
• 38:45
  someone in situations where you feel like you maybe can't be
• 38:48
  with your bio mom or dad. Yeah.
• 38:51
  And of course, Kody has to say
• 38:55
  blah, blah blah, or becoming tolerant so he doesn't get
• 38:59
  heartbroken. And I'm like, heartbroken.
• 39:02
  I just want you to know, Kody,
• 39:05
  fuck. So like, you're going to be
• 39:08
  heartbroken over your son having
• 39:13
  religious dogmatic bullshit. Yeah, it totally.
• 39:15
  Is him and his feelings him and.
• 39:18
  His feelings, like, my God, I'm not saying that you should be
• 39:21
  like, yeah, boy, get out there and like, do it like a stallion,
• 39:26
  becoming a young adult. He's going to college.
• 39:29
  Whose college stories are like, I never had sex.
• 39:31
  I never did anything wrong. I went to school and I got
• 39:34
  straight A's and all I did, I came out a St.
• 39:36
  Like, that's not most people's stories.
• 39:37
  Get it together. I kept sweet, but also the whole
• 39:52
  To that Mormon school.
• 39:53
  In Utah, that. Utah school.
• 39:55
  Yeah, yeah. And kept sweet, but you
• 39:59
  encouraged him to go to this school.
• 40:02
  Totally. Yeah.
• 40:04
  Kody talks out both sides of his
• 40:07
  is. It's like dogmatic bullshit.
• 40:08
  It's so stupid. Fuck Kody.
• 40:10
  He's an idiot. Later in the day, Kody is at
• 40:14
  Janelle's house grilling steaks in the backyard.
• 40:17
  And I love it because it's like,
• 40:20
  meat, so we're going to eat some
• 40:22
  And that's what he asked for. Now.
• 40:24
  Hey, you know what? I love some meat, too.
• 40:25
  If I was having a go on away meal, I'd be like, could I have
• 40:27
  some surf and some turf and whatever.
• 40:30
  It is funny to see Kody grilling
• 40:34
  such AI don't even know a bumbling boob.
• 40:37
  He's like got these big hunks of
• 40:38
  And he's like. Stabbing them and flipping them
• 40:41
  and the flames are going up out of the grill and when he opens
• 40:43
  the grill it looks like he doesn't even know.
• 40:45
  He's like, there's a flame. It's ridiculous.
• 40:47
  It's like, dude, like you're trying to put on this show.
• 40:50
  Well, this is what he loves to
• 40:51
  He loves to put on a show. He's such a show boat.
• 40:53
  Look at me. I'm a big, big man.
• 40:55
  When in all reality, it's like, you look like an idiot.
• 40:57
  Like I would look better grilling steak than him, right?
• 40:59
  He's like grilling steak because
• 41:03
  And he goes, Logan's a meat eater.
• 41:06
  Like he's proud and he's making this weird flex about his son
• 41:11
  being a meat eater, and yet he
• 41:15
  a grill. It's like, yeah, no.
• 41:18
  You're the one who looks in a way like if you were going to be
• 41:21
  judgmental, he doesn't look like
• 41:23
  fucking steak. And yet he's all like, my man's,
• 41:26
  like my son's a man. And it's like, oh, I thought you
• 41:28
  were going to be heartbroken if he put his penis in some.
• 41:32
  What is the math? Where's the math?
• 41:33
  Math ain't math. But if he brings his penis in a
• 41:35
  steak crystal. Though that's where you get it,
• 41:38
  right? If Logan fucks a steak, then I
• 41:41
  can be proud of. Wow.
• 41:43
  Whoa, Where are we? Where are we?
• 41:46
  What is happening? Oh, sorry, ladies and gentlemen.
• 41:48
  We'll get it back on track. We're going to get it back on
• 41:50
  track. Kinks right now re kink shaming.
• 41:53
  Well, I'm more about the I was
• 41:56
  than the turf, but that's not true.
• 41:57
  I'm definitely more into the turf than the surf.
• 42:02
  Sidebar something I've learned
• 42:06
  at an axis to hide A shrimp in
• 42:11
  smell really awful and they'll
• 42:14
  In their towel bar. Like in their bathroom.
• 42:16
  Oh God, I am familiar with the
• 42:21
  find. Shrimp inside the towel bar.
• 42:24
  But that's, I mean, who would ever look in their towel bar?
• 42:26
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 42:28
  You ever been done dirty girls?
• 42:31
  My ladies, my ladies. Hey ladies, if you want to go
• 42:35
  and hit them up style, put a shrimp in the towel bar.
• 42:39
  Yeah, Blue Cantrell. Blue Cantrell.
• 42:42
  So good. Wow, that's oddly specific and
• 42:50
  Allegedly, if you put a strip in a towel bar, it smells rancid
• 42:55
  after a while and they'll never. Find It Legal told us.
• 42:59
  It's all alleged. We don't know anything.
• 43:01
  Kody tells us about how he has sensed that Logan has already
• 43:05
  began separating as he prepares to leave identifiable.
• 43:08
  I do the same thing. I know that when I know
• 43:12
  something's coming to an end, I start to do the whole like,
• 43:14
  building up the thing, like, all right, going to move out.
• 43:17
  This is it, taking the steps, blah, blah, blah.
• 43:19
  I don't want to, you know, come across as too much of A raging
• 43:25
  straight man. But Madonna talks about it in
• 43:27
  Truth or Dare when there are Two is coming towards the end of her
• 43:35
  and when I know something's coming to an end, I prepare
• 43:38
  myself and every I should say everybody does that, but a lot
• 43:44
  sand till the end. Some people make their distances
• 43:50
  door. You get senioritis.
• 43:51
  Yes, yes. Well, you just brought up
• 43:53
  senioritis to me recently and it is totally, you know,
• 43:57
  applicable. Yeah, I.
• 43:58
  Think that, like, so many people get senioritis, like when they
• 44:10
  because you're feeling ready to move on.
• 44:13
  Yeah, yeah. You're planning, you're you're
• 44:19
  interesting label for it because I hadn't heard that outside of
• 44:25
  me recently, I was like, it's so true.
• 44:27
  It's like the steps you take of the next chapter's coming, and
• 44:36
  he can tell that Logan is feeling euphoria about leaving,
• 44:40
  but that is also coupled with Kody feeling melancholy and
• 44:46
  realizing that Logan is leaving even though he's only going to
• 44:55
  where he's saying, see you mom and dad.
• 44:57
  I'm on my own. I'm my own person.
• 44:59
  And so Kody's mixing these two emotions.
• 45:02
  And when he's talking about it, I noticed that his eyes were
• 45:05
  getting glossy, like he was getting a little emotional about
• 45:15
  narcissist or whatever, like all the labels that people put on
• 45:18
  him. And, you know, he has some not
• 45:26
  where I don't feel like it's put on.
• 45:28
  I think he's probably really feeling that.
• 45:30
  You can be a narcissist and still love people and.
• 45:33
  That's true, I do it all the time.
• 45:36
  Like you can, and I think that as we'll see from Kody time and
• 45:42
  again, is he's confused by his own emotions.
• 45:47
  And he's very confused right now.
• 45:50
  And you can tell by the words he's using, euphoria and
• 45:56
  melancholy and coupled with my feelings and he's bringing it
• 46:01
  back to himself. And no matter what, which is a
• 46:11
  diagnosis of narcissism for Kody as.
• 46:14
  We would never pretend to be able to do so or.
• 46:16
  So yes. We don't.
• 46:17
  When he's referencing how Logan is saying see your mom and dad
• 46:22
  own. I don't know if inflection is
• 46:24
  the right, but his own feelings about that.
• 46:26
  It's not actually about his son leaving, it's about his son
• 46:28
  saying goodbye to. Him, it's his reflection of it
• 46:42
  like this put on thing where you see the emotion and you're like,
• 46:50
  Like this has to be about me. And then in the end it goes back
• 47:01
  no, this is not about me. And it's hurtful.
• 47:05
  And I just see a lot of Kody getting emotional and I'm like,
• 47:11
  oh, yeah, I can like, commiserate as a parent.
• 47:14
  And I'm like, yes, he gets it. He gets it.
• 47:17
  And then I like, backtrack with the thought of the, oh, no, he
• 47:27
  these motions that are like, narcissistic and bringing it
• 47:32
  back to himself. And I just like can't imagine
• 47:36
  how confusing it is watching this back as a child.
• 47:40
  And part of me like hopes that the kids don't ever watch this
• 47:47
  As someone who has grown up partially with texting and
• 47:53
  voicemail on a cell phone and partially not with it, I think
• 48:03
  face that I can look back on and reflect on and read out loud
• 48:08
  or have other people read and see like it for what it truly
• 48:12
  is. So it's got to be super hurtful
• 48:15
  to see these big moments in your
• 48:19
  and realize that they weren't what you maybe thought they
• 48:23
  were. Just like the graduation and him
• 48:25
  making it about him and Robyn and Robyn being late.
• 48:29
  Yeah, like that has to be fucking hurtful.
• 48:32
  It's basically being thrown in
• 48:34
  I know. And it's when it comes to
• 48:36
  someone like Logan, I feel like,
• 48:40
  for granted because I don't know
• 48:43
  he's well adjusted enough and probably self-sufficient, self
• 48:47
  whatevered enough where maybe this didn't have the biggest
• 48:50
  impact on him in real time. But yeah, to like go back and
• 48:55
  watch it would be like, Oh my gosh.
• 48:58
  I think that's being generous because I think that being the
• 49:02
  first born of a family like this, there's no way that it
• 49:06
  didn't affect him. I think that he was paren defied
• 49:09
  from a young age. He was made to make breakfast
• 49:11
  for all of his siblings. From a young age, he felt
• 49:14
  protective. I think that he is stoic and
• 49:20
  quiet in a sense because he's protective of himself and his
• 49:26
  siblings. And I'm happy that we don't know
• 49:30
  much about how he's felt about
• 49:34
  protecting his peace now. Because I can't imagine that for
• 49:39
  him it hasn't been harmful. And I'm proud of him for
• 49:44
  protecting his peace by not making it known, if that makes
• 49:49
  sense. Yeah, it totally does.
• 49:51
  In a way, like the siblings that
• 49:54
  oh, we're OK, we're doing this, so we're doing that.
• 49:58
  They're the ones that might need
• 50:02
  they're not OK. Where Logan has protected his
• 50:06
  peace and hopefully taking care of his mental health and like
• 50:09
  like gotten the help that he needed, like on a private scale,
• 50:13
  like where it was actually needed and not for like the
• 50:17
  public's eye and like viewing.
• 50:22
  weird. And like even just his mom
• 50:24
  messing with him making breakfast and saying the whole
• 50:28
  family wants to come see your dorm.
• 50:32
  Let's not do that, Janelle. Let's not freak our child out
• 50:36
  and let him think that we're all
• 50:39
  place. Even all the parents, she might
• 50:42
  have even told him before the clip that she was going to make
• 50:46
  the joke, but I don't think she did.
• 50:48
  And they're desensitized to the persona that they've put on.
• 50:56
  And they're not remembering that
• 51:01
  the children have childlike minds and they're not seeing
• 51:03
  things for what they are. So you're saying jokes to your
• 51:07
  kids that your kids don't know
• 51:11
  telling your kids promises that are empty and you keep breaking
• 51:14
  them. They don't know that they have
• 51:16
  no foresight. They don't get that their brains
• 51:19
  literally cannot connect that these people are fucked up.
• 51:24
  Well, yes, and there's a pattern
• 51:29
  jokes of their situation with the kids, like they're.
• 51:32
  Setting up a. Bit right, yeah, like for the
• 51:35
  show, like, Oh my gosh, like if I bring up that everyone's
• 51:37
  going to come and it's going to be this.
• 51:39
  Meanwhile this poor 18 year old kid is trying to go through a
• 51:43
  major life milestone going. Why does me moving into a dorm
• 51:48
  room have to be a bit for your
• 51:50
  And this is all before he gets
• 51:53
  I feel bad for him before he gets the fucking quilt.
• 51:55
  Chris, he's the fucking. Quilt.
• 51:57
  Oh my gosh. So we got to get to the quilt
• 52:00
  somehow, OK? Christ.
• 52:01
  Everyone has gathered at Janelle's house.
• 52:03
  In the kitchen, they're blessing
• 52:06
  is so well prepared. Probably well prepared.
• 52:11
  Yeah. And they're getting ready to
• 52:12
  eat. And I Oh girl, I got to tell
• 52:14
  you, I hate to say it, but when they finally show them eating,
• 52:17
  they're eating the steak on paper plates with plastic
• 52:21
  silverware. How do you even cut a steak that
• 52:24
  well done with plastic? You don't they had Gabriel
• 52:27
  literally stabbing the steak and
• 52:30
  fork and putting it in his mouth.
• 52:32
  So I, I, I don't know, you know,
• 52:35
  other ways with this plastic shit and the paper shit.
• 52:38
  I just this is a hill I'm going to fucking die on.
• 52:43
  Stop doing the paper plates and the plastic silverware and the
• 52:46
  sniper from cops when it's unnecessary.
• 52:48
  No, this is dumb. Anyway, sorry, I, you know, I
• 52:51
  just have to go on my tangents.
• 52:53
  After their meal, they're all gathered in the living room,
• 52:56
  honey. And this is where we're going to
• 53:03
  Voyage video. Oh my God, this quilt is
• 53:09
  literally hideous. So hideous.
• 53:11
  Robyn and Meri bring it out. Almost like ceremoniously,
• 53:17
  ceremoniously, one on each side. In a giant laundry bag.
• 53:21
  In a hamper? No, you know, he it's nice
• 53:24
  because he's going to a college dorm.
• 53:26
  He's going to need a place to put his.
• 53:27
  But do you think they actually left him that laundry basket?
• 53:29
  Wouldn't that be funny if they were like, no, that's.
• 53:31
  No, that was, that's. Meri's laundry.
• 53:33
  Do you think they fucking gave? I didn't see him loaded into his
• 53:39
  thinking that at least they were being, you know, thoughtful
• 53:41
  enough to give him a laundry basket slash hamper for his dorm
• 53:47
  We didn't see him bring it off to college.
• 53:49
  Nope, we didn't. We can't give them any benefits
• 53:51
  of any doubt. We can't, they give him.
• 53:55
  The quilt, the quilt. He laughed.
• 53:59
  He laughs, which is so great. Oh my gosh, it's so cute, he
• 54:03
  laughs. And he says.
• 54:05
  My first thought is that there is no way I am taking this to
• 54:12
  the dorm with me. But then, you know, he says.
• 54:18
  He realized how nice it was. It was well made, all their
• 54:22
  signatures on it, you know, he said he was really touched and
• 54:29
  Even though of course the initial reaction of an 18 year
• 54:35
  Like, what the fuck is going on here?
• 54:37
  But see, this speaks to Logan's maturity and his, well,
• 54:41
  naturedness. Like, by the end of this,
• 54:43
  because I don't know, when I was 18, I don't know if I would have
• 54:48
  I might have been like, yeah, I
• 54:49
  guess I might pretend or something to be like, this is
• 54:52
  cool. But I don't know that I would
• 54:53
  have actually thought, well, it's kind of well made.
• 54:56
  And I actually am kind of touched.
• 54:57
  They went through the I'd be like, why the fuck are you doing
• 54:59
  this to me? I mean if anything, maybe he
• 55:03
  pretends to take it and like hides it in the trunk of his car
• 55:06
  and doesn't bring it out when he
• 55:08
  I don't know. He makes a joke about hanging it
• 55:11
  on his wall for his roommate and.
• 55:14
  They're all excited. They're like, oh, that's great.
• 55:17
  And it's like, Oh my gosh. Obviously.
• 55:19
  It's a weird family. They're all like in denial and
• 55:22
  in rejection and strange places.
• 55:24
  And I don't understand how some of the older siblings aren't
• 55:28
  like why the fuck are we doing this?
• 55:31
  Please don't do this to him. Please don't do this to him.
• 55:35
  Why are we doing this? I'm like mortified for them all.
• 55:41
  embarrassing. Like did you think that this was
• 55:43
  OK? Even as an adult, I wouldn't use
• 55:48
  a quilt. No honey member, it's Robyn.
• 55:51
  So, you know, child bride vibes.
• 55:55
  Well, OK, that they're not going to go there.
• 55:59
  No, no, I just meant that she's literally, you know, she's not
• 56:03
  But this is like fucking weird and the the fact that you would
• 56:07
  even think of doing something like this and her sister makes
• 56:12
  Fawn fawn makes these picture quilts.
• 56:17
  I rate you fucking weirdos I know.
• 56:21
  Who are these people? What did they crawl out of?
• 56:25
  So strange. I've even thought of making and
• 56:28
  this is only because my husband and I are obsessed.
• 56:32
  Like we go to concerts constantly and I'm like, we've
• 56:39
  like, I need the band T-shirt and the band T-shirt.
• 56:41
  And I've thought of doing the quilt with like the band Tees
• 56:45
  and I would never ever use that on a bed, but maybe as like a
• 56:52
  couch quilt A. Tapestry.
• 56:54
  Or a tapestry hanging on my wall?
• 56:57
  No, I'd probably do like a couch quilt or something.
• 57:00
  Yeah, but not even then because like, band teaser with a lot
• 57:04
  these days. Not pictures of your fucking
• 57:07
  family's faces. I just love that you're saying
• 57:12
  moment for some of our listeners who are up to speed on Sister
• 57:15
  Wives, OK? And in the last season, which I
• 57:18
  believe is season 20 at this point, there is a quilt, another
• 57:34
  life that he asks her to disassemble to give him back the
• 57:43
  shirt. No, we can't.
• 57:46
  You know, we don't have the time.
• 57:47
  We don't have the, I don't have the energy, we don't have the
• 57:50
  personal strength to go down this rabbit hole right now.
• 57:52
  Also, I don't want to give anything away other than what I
• 57:54
  already gave away. At the end of the day, Meri made
• 58:02
  point in time. So I love that you brought that
• 58:05
  up because I'm just going to have to refer to you as Meri
• 58:08
  2.0. Oh my God.
• 58:10
  That's a beautiful. Thing.
• 58:11
  Oh my God, Oh my. God, your husband's going to be
• 58:14
  so. Do you even realize how much
• 58:16
  work it is to make a quilt, Christopher?
• 58:18
  It's so much fucking work. Apologies to everyone who's ever
• 58:23
  High school. Graduation gift or something
• 58:24
  because I we don't mean to be offensive about quilt making a
• 58:31
  And quotes and it's hideous. My grandma and like one of my
• 58:36
  like best aunties makes quilts and they're fucking amazing and
• 58:39
  I have a few of them and I'm like cherish them.
• 58:43
  However, faces. I know.
• 58:45
  And it's it's, it's a choice. It's and they're like school
• 58:48
  photos, by the way, they're not like cute funny photos.
• 58:51
  They're hard to say. Because it's not well done.
• 58:53
  It's just not well done. No, like it'd be funny.
• 58:56
  Maybe if they were like silly faces from like a gathering of
• 59:04
  School pictures. I'd be humiliated if I was them.
• 59:14
  playing the video for Logan, which is really cute.
• 59:17
  They put it on is it and OK, well, parts of it are cute.
• 59:20
  OK, thank you for asking. Thank you for asking.
• 59:22
  Only parts of it are cute. So they start playing this video
• 59:26
  and unfortunately the first clip
• 59:31
  now Mckelty, Mckelty, Mckelty.
• 59:36
  and you were talking about how
• 59:38
  might have adjusted and how they
• 59:40
  And someone who did not adjust
• 59:42
  fucking Mckelty because to this day she's obnoxious as fuck.
• 59:47
  But her bit she thinks she's so fucking funny.
• 59:49
  She's like pretending to cry. So Logan leaving and then she's
• 59:53
  like. Fake weapon tears.
• 59:59
  And doing your coy little bit.
• 1:00:03
  favorite. Just remember that.
• 1:00:09
  Now I have to add Mckelty to the
• 1:00:12
  well and it is the lamest fucking thing I may have ever
• 1:00:15
  seen in my entire life. Now I hate to say it because I'm
• 1:00:19
  sure at this point, well no, I
• 1:00:22
  you know it's tough to talk trash about children but someone
• 1:00:25
  has to and it is me. Mckelty, you fucking suck.
• 1:00:28
  And that sucked and it was not
• 1:00:30
  I'm getting like secondhand embarrassment so hard.
• 1:00:33
  And Janelle says, oh, I thought that he was maybe going to
• 1:00:36
  watch a couple and then take it up to his room and finish
• 1:00:38
  watching. Watching it.
• 1:00:39
  No, he watches the whole thing with the whole family and I have
• 1:00:49
  way to the end of the hands. Embarrassment.
• 1:00:52
  You like I got my 20 second hand embarrassment.
• 1:00:55
  I got my toes out. Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  I'm so embarrassed. You've got to count my toes too.
• 1:01:01
  Oh honey, count my toes. Oh, he's got one toe.
• 1:01:05
  He doesn't have toes. Now the reason honey, that I
• 1:01:08
  said it was cute is because we
• 1:01:11
  Maddie's little video. That was cute.
• 1:01:14
  Was it? Yes, it was, she goes on.
• 1:01:19
  OK, so it's it's a little long, I don't know, but she talks
• 1:01:22
  about when they were little kids
• 1:01:26
  protect her from anything, including.
• 1:01:28
  She's already fucking told this story before.
• 1:01:30
  I know, but OK, so she I love you.
• 1:01:34
  What the hell is what's happening in this episode?
• 1:01:36
  Because now you're saying that
• 1:01:39
  insensitive because she's shared
• 1:01:41
  It seems like it's regurgitating
• 1:01:45
  think it's cute. I feel like she's like smirking
• 1:01:50
  in the clip, like she knows people liked this and so she's
• 1:01:53
  going to repeat the same story.
• 1:01:55
  No, the reason you guys. OK, so she shares the story,
• 1:01:59
  which we have already talked about on the show because she
• 1:02:01
  has shared it. OK, yes, he says, I'll protect
• 1:02:04
  You're a great friend. I'm going to protect you even
• 1:02:07
  from tornadoes because she was so scared of tornadoes.
• 1:02:09
  So she's sharing the story on this video.
• 1:02:12
  And yes, Kimber is tearing her to shreds unnecessarily.
• 1:02:15
  So because it's not that. It's not.
• 1:02:18
  I mean, it is what it is. Yes, she's shared it before.
• 1:02:20
  But as the clip is playing on the TV, they cut over to her on
• 1:02:24
  the couch and she is crying. She is red faced.
• 1:02:27
  She is like feeling the feels about how much she loves her
• 1:02:31
  brother. I can't even believe that I'm
• 1:02:33
  defending Maddie at this moment. OK, the only reason that might
• 1:02:39
  here. Going.
• 1:02:42
  God, don't leave Abby Norman. Shared In this episode, I'm
• 1:02:47
  going to call you a heartless bitch because this was really
• 1:02:51
  cute. It really was.
• 1:02:53
  She wraps it up by saying like you ended up being such a great
• 1:02:57
  Big Brother and like a fantastic best friend and I'm
• 1:03:00
  going to miss you. Yeah, she doesn't want to be
• 1:03:03
  fucking left alone with this goddamn family.
• 1:03:07
  Holy. Fuck, I don't know how else you
• 1:03:11
  get anything different from that.
• 1:03:12
  She's like, God damn it, Logan's fucking leaving and I'm sad.
• 1:03:17
  Like, she is one of the children that's like, ready to get out of
• 1:03:26
  heart on this podcast. I mean, I think.
• 1:03:31
  Oh, did you hear that pause? I'm leaving that pause in
• 1:03:35
  because. I think when my sister left, I
• 1:03:37
  was a little Jelly in the belly.
• 1:03:38
  I was a little like, God damn, you know, like, fair enough.
• 1:03:41
  I want to be where you're at right now.
• 1:03:43
  And I think a lot of siblings that are close in age and me and
• 1:03:53
  And I think that Maddie is one year off and she's like just sad
• 1:04:01
  I don't know if how heartfelt that is.
• 1:04:04
  I don't, I don't even know what to say.
• 1:04:06
  It felt like I, I, I hear you, honey.
• 1:04:09
  OK, well so all of us traumatized by the older
• 1:04:13
  siblings that left us first that wasn't.
• 1:04:15
  You, you can't speak. On it you shut your dirty whore
• 1:04:18
  mouth. You.
• 1:04:19
  Can't speak on it. I'll remember that, I'll
• 1:04:23
  remember that. Holy shit.
• 1:04:25
  Well, some other people talk, including Hunter, which was like
• 1:04:31
  Janelle wraps us up with something that literally did
• 1:04:35
  bring tears to my eyes. So if you say this was not
• 1:04:38
  heartfelt, then I'm going to condemn you to hell forever.
• 1:04:41
  Janelle says something like, you know, you've basically been a
• 1:04:45
  perfect son, so now it's time for you to do something for you,
• 1:04:52
  And it fades out. And as she's talking, it's one
• 1:04:58
  very real. She's being very real.
• 1:04:59
  She wants the best for her son and you can tell.
• 1:05:02
  Like she's not being a guilt ridden mother for overbearing
• 1:05:05
  him from a young age with her burdens.
• 1:05:08
  I guess that's true. It just came across to me as
• 1:05:15
  like, the thing about Janelle, she doesn't emote a lot, right?
• 1:05:18
  Like she doesn't give us a lot
• 1:05:20
  of like highs and lows and feelings.
• 1:05:22
  So for her to say something like, I want you to do something
• 1:05:27
  for you, it's almost like she's recognizing even in a moment,
• 1:05:31
  and it might not be, you know,
• 1:05:36
  saying I want you to do something for you.
• 1:05:38
  And that's what touched me is because it's almost like she's
• 1:05:41
  kind of acknowledging like you
• 1:05:44
  we parentified you and blah, blah, blah.
• 1:05:46
  She's acknowledging that she fucked up, so good on you.
• 1:05:52
  And for those of us with the heart it touched, yes.
• 1:05:55
  It was it was touching, but at
• 1:05:58
  gratifying. Again, I'm going to tell you to
• 1:06:01
  like move on. Do something for yourself for
• 1:06:04
  once. Like that's your fucking child,
• 1:06:06
  bitch. She's standing there with Kody's
• 1:06:08
  arm around her shoulder in the
• 1:06:12
  forced, oh, what are you going
• 1:06:17
  And Kody's standing there with
• 1:06:20
  awkward. And this is what she said.
• 1:06:22
  And I don't, I'm not trying to
• 1:06:26
  sudden. I just think a lot of these
• 1:06:28
  people are being like so fucking
• 1:06:30
  And they're not. I don't know how to say it, but
• 1:06:34
  I was supposed. To say like, hope you fucking
• 1:06:36
  survive. I mean like it's touching.
• 1:06:38
  Moment I love you so much. Like thank you for everything
• 1:06:41
  that you've done for me and for this family.
• 1:06:43
  Like I just seems like a self gratifying in a way, like
• 1:06:49
  unburdening herself. Sure.
• 1:06:52
  Unburdened Janelle. Yeah.
• 1:06:55
  Unburdened. Were you unburdened in that
• 1:06:56
  moment? Logan looks legit touched and
• 1:06:59
  pleased with their heartfelt messages.
• 1:07:01
  He does of course, except for Mckelty because she's an idiot.
• 1:07:04
  But literally like everyone else's message, she's watching
• 1:07:08
  it and looking like, you know,
• 1:07:12
  are throwing shit in his face.
• 1:07:14
  their wrapping paper from his quilt.
• 1:07:16
  From his quilt gift, you know,
• 1:07:20
  legitimately touched and you know, that's, that's cute to
• 1:07:23
  see. They start playing a bunch of
• 1:07:25
  cornball music here, cornball music, cornball music, and.
• 1:07:31
  Kody, of course, has made a plan
• 1:07:34
  properties. We can't end a season without
• 1:07:38
  visiting the property. Yes, the cul-de-sac to see the
• 1:07:42
  progress, to check it out with
• 1:07:45
  of course, well, Logan's going
• 1:07:48
  which basically means to like a suburb of the city they live
• 1:07:51
  in. So we've got to make the
• 1:07:53
  journey, the pilgrimage, not to Jerusalem, not to Nauvoo, but to
• 1:08:00
  So then, of course, Kody has this voice over talking about
• 1:08:03
  how more kids will be making plans to leave the nest after
• 1:08:07
  they move into these houses. But he's most anxious about Meri
• 1:08:14
  So Oh my God, this other plot point that we cannot escape the
• 1:08:19
  houses and the baby. Which is so forest.
• 1:08:21
  And then of course, we're showing Logan packing his car
• 1:08:25
  kind of at the same time, and Meri is filming Logan packing
• 1:08:29
  his car up and mentions, oh, you forgot the quilt.
• 1:08:33
  And he's like, don't worry, I was just going back to get that.
• 1:08:46
  Kody, he talks about how Robyn
• 1:08:50
  how they've set up their planning to move into the houses
• 1:08:53
  and to get settled and Meri needs to make her decision yes
• 1:08:57
  or no, which we've talked about before.
• 1:08:59
  Every commercial break leading
• 1:09:02
  Yep, surrogacy versus in vitro
• 1:09:06
  and thinks she should carry the baby.
• 1:09:08
  And it's their decision, yes or no, and that's what they're
• 1:09:12
  going to do. After they move into the houses,
• 1:09:14
  he wants a decision for the well-being of the family.
• 1:09:19
  We need to know is it really the
• 1:09:24
  I mean no. It is not the well-being of the
• 1:09:26
  family God. It is a plot point for the third
• 1:09:29
  or fourth season in a row. All right, so the entire Brown
• 1:09:33
  family, the whole clan arrives
• 1:09:36
  cul-de-sac and the framing is going up and everyone's excited
• 1:09:40
  to see the progress. We do get shots of the houses
• 1:09:43
  actually being built and it's interesting to see houses going
• 1:09:46
  up. I mean, it's a lot framing.
• 1:09:49
  I shouldn't say interesting. It's just framing.
• 1:09:51
  I don't know why I said it was
• 1:09:53
  It's not. Janelle says it's really cool to
• 1:09:56
  see the houses and Robyn has to,
• 1:10:01
  her, but she has to counter with her explanation her.
• 1:10:05
  I don't know what the word is not.
• 1:10:08
  Whatever her commentary. Her commentary?
• 1:10:12
  I know it's like all of a sudden
• 1:10:18
  It's roll necklace clinking, clinking, clinking.
• 1:10:21
  Yeah, her necklace, was she wearing the IT was like the the
• 1:10:25
  circle with the pen. She was.
• 1:10:26
  Wearing like a big jump ring, yeah.
• 1:10:28
  OK, OK. It's a bunch of pendants hanging
• 1:10:30
  on the bottom. Yeah.
• 1:10:32
  And she's like, I know. It's like all of a sudden it's.
• 1:10:35
  Roll. It's roll.
• 1:10:37
  It's roll. Fucking Robyn.
• 1:10:40
  It's like roll. And because this is the show
• 1:10:43
  that we're watching, and because
• 1:10:45
  listening about us watching, the
• 1:10:50
  come up again, where Kody says
• 1:10:53
  on creating the written vision
• 1:10:57
  the new houses being built. Oh, he's such a wise man.
• 1:11:02
  He's such a thoughtful man. He's such a bright man.
• 1:11:06
  It's a good time to write the family mission statement.
• 1:11:10
  And we get to see a flashback to
• 1:11:14
  sister, cousins and their husbands.
• 1:11:16
  Sister, cousins and their husbands.
• 1:11:21
  Oh my God. Oh my God.
• 1:11:23
  And what did he say? Remember you, you, you pointed
• 1:11:25
  out what he said, how at the time when he was in business,
• 1:11:28
  because, you know, he's a business major.
• 1:11:29
  And at the time it was in Vogue.
• 1:11:31
  It was. It was in vogue when I was in
• 1:11:34
  Business School to write a mission statement.
• 1:11:36
  Like in Vogue. Like give me a fucking break.
• 1:11:40
  Who says that? Oh my God.
• 1:11:43
  Marilyn Monroe, Dietrich and DiMaggio.
• 1:11:45
  Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you.
• 1:11:49
  Don't just stand there. Let's get to it.
• 1:11:52
  Please, Joe. Let's write a mission statement.
• 1:11:56
  Let's write a mission statement,
• 1:11:58
  I lost it. It wasn't that bad.
• 1:12:01
  It wasn't. That bad?
• 1:12:02
  It wasn't that bad to it. You know, Kody tells us that as
• 1:12:06
  a family, we need to sit down and discuss these things because
• 1:12:09
  I think we all have different visions in our head of what this
• 1:12:12
  means, and we need to bring it
• 1:12:16
  And Oh my God, Meri has to jump in with her precious pearls,
• 1:12:19
  her wisdom, and she's, of course, on the verge of tears
• 1:12:22
  and then starts crying. We wouldn't be here without if
• 1:12:26
  we weren't all committed. We know the commitment is
• 1:12:30
  already there. I mean, there's been times that
• 1:12:34
  probably every one of us would
• 1:12:42
  My gosh, Kody thinks that they
• 1:12:46
  nostalgia by writing a mission
• 1:12:50
  And this is the moment of the entire season for me.
• 1:12:59
  Oh God, what is the moment, darling?
• 1:13:02
  Kody is wearing a purple shirt
• 1:13:07
  down the front and the pocket says.
• 1:13:11
  Oh yeah. Guess G.
• 1:13:14
  Guess G. He was never wearing Prada.
• 1:13:21
  It was guess, as one of our viewers so kindly pointed out.
• 1:13:25
  Yes, it probably was. And you know, I kind of after
• 1:13:31
  that was mentioned earlier on,
• 1:13:34
  right. But it was just pointed out
• 1:13:37
  blatantly here that it was guessed jeans and this purple
• 1:13:41
  shirt with the rivets all over.
• 1:13:42
  And I want to know, with all these layers and all of the
• 1:13:46
  things that the women are doing, were they being sponsored by the
• 1:13:56
  I don't know. I mean, Robyn was a guest jeans
• 1:13:59
  model, right? And now Kody's Rain guests.
• 1:14:01
  No, no, no, she was a Diesel Jeans.
• 1:14:04
  Model shit even higher brow. This is a Diesel jeans fuck she
• 1:14:09
  wore to JC Penney's or something once.
• 1:14:11
  OK, well there's that. You know, if they were, I'm just
• 1:14:18
  like the rule was at least like 4 layers at a time so the Browns
• 1:14:26
  Totally would. They totally would.
• 1:14:27
  And these jeans with the big ol, you know, stitching down and
• 1:14:34
  guess shirts and. Very of the time, yeah, it is
• 1:14:38
  good to know that guess was probably the outcome.
• 1:14:40
  It is funny that we were going, could it be Prada?
• 1:14:43
  And we're like why? Why would it be Prada?
• 1:14:45
  What's happening? The guess label wasn't on it at
• 1:14:48
  all. It was like just the outline and
• 1:14:54
  weird at the time and it was like trying to be a flex type of
• 1:15:07
  thing. So it is weird too that it would
• 1:15:10
  be Guess because Guess is known as like a sexy brand.
• 1:15:14
  Yeah, it was like Anna Nicole Smith was a guest model.
• 1:15:16
  Yeah, for sure. Like it was not a polygamous
• 1:15:20
  brand. No, I guess the whole thing.
• 1:15:23
  I guess the whole thing, right.
• 1:15:25
  Fucking confusing whether it was Prada or Guest, but it was.
• 1:15:29
  Guess yeah. And as the montage of Logan
• 1:15:31
  hugging everyone goodbye at the property starts, the soundtrack
• 1:15:35
  begins with Sarah McLachlan building a mystery about the
• 1:15:40
  guest jeans. There's not dogs and puppies
• 1:15:44
  crying and singing in the arms of the.
• 1:15:47
  Instead it was Kody was wearing guests all along.
• 1:15:51
  So thank you for guessing probably correctly listener yes,
• 1:15:58
  Yes, you're probably right. Christine starts listing off all
• 1:16:11
  We get a lot of gems here. Yeah, Christine has a literal
• 1:16:15
  like paragraph of blah blah blah.
• 1:16:16
  I don't even know if I can do a Christine voice.
• 1:16:19
  Do I have the strength? No.
• 1:16:21
  It can't be too late. We have to unite there to get
• 1:16:26
  these kids to want to come back home.
• 1:16:31
  Home. Get them to come back home.
• 1:16:36
  And maybe start with having Christmas there or something.
• 1:16:40
  And then Robyn has to say it will be the last Christmas with
• 1:16:45
  Leon and Aspen at home. And then she looks at Meri, and
• 1:16:50
  Meri starts to cry. They're all crying.
• 1:16:53
  Don't say that, Don't say that, says Meri.
• 1:16:58
  Robyn, we'll get the house. We'll get the house before
• 1:17:03
  Christmas Day. We'll push.
• 1:17:06
  We'll push as hard as I push Saul out my pussy.
• 1:17:11
  We'll push. Which if we if I remember
• 1:17:15
  correctly, was more about like Saul just came out.
• 1:17:20
  Pushing him out. Pushing him out.
• 1:17:23
  Pushing him out, because remember.
• 1:17:27
  Solomon. Uncle Stepdaddy Paul was there
• 1:17:35
  It was very cool. So if Robyn has anything to do
• 1:17:42
  homes at Christmas as she pushed Solomon out of that loose
• 1:17:51
  Lewis allegedly. Loose.
• 1:17:53
  Allegedly loose. Very tight.
• 1:17:55
  Just from alleged rumors we've heard, it's not.
• 1:17:59
  True alleged. Very alleged.
• 1:18:02
  After, you know, Robyn reassures Meri that they're going to get
• 1:18:09
  have. We'll push.
• 1:18:11
  She'll have a Lamaze over these houses, Meri says.
• 1:18:14
  I'm just not ready for Leon to leave.
• 1:18:17
  Leon keeps saying to me we need to move into these houses as
• 1:18:21
  soon as we can because I'm going to be gone.
• 1:18:24
  And so they just want to have as much time as they can.
• 1:18:29
  Mama. I want to feel rich for once in
• 1:18:32
  my life before I move on. Mama.
• 1:18:37
  Leon's just going like I'm a selfish bitch and I want to be
• 1:18:45
  and I'm a spoiled brat. I'm hello before I'm going to be
• 1:18:52
  sleep on the floor in the emergency room.
• 1:18:54
  I'd really like to live with these homes because you get me
• 1:19:05
  Oh my gosh. Sorry, Leon, we actually don't
• 1:19:21
  So it's we're talking about
• 1:19:23
  Christmas. So, you know, ladies and
• 1:19:26
  gentlemen, boys and girls, listeners of all ages, shapes
• 1:19:29
  and sizes of this podcast. We're approaching the end of
• 1:19:32
  this episode. And Kody has to, of course, wrap
• 1:19:36
  up the episode because this is
• 1:19:39
  before. This is Kody's show.
• 1:19:42
  And he tells us, since Logan was
• 1:19:45
  view that we are one family. So I feel like we're giving our
• 1:19:49
  kids a very solid foundation and
• 1:19:54
  It's been a very grounding place.
• 1:19:56
  They've had all these siblings
• 1:20:00
  children. I believe they're going to be
• 1:20:03
  very good citizens of the planet.
• 1:20:06
  He didn't say of the planet. And I believe that this is
• 1:20:09
  because of the experience that
• 1:20:12
  big family together. And now, OK, I mean, what I
• 1:20:18
  think he's trying to say is that
• 1:20:20
  to be good people because they've all had this warm, large
• 1:20:26
  family in their upbringing and
• 1:20:29
  Yeah, now blah blah blah. Now cut 2.
• 1:20:32
  In recent years, it hasn't been the case.
• 1:20:35
  They've been in separate homes, and as Christina's told us,
• 1:20:38
  their family is failing and falling apart.
• 1:20:40
  So Kody's like, I need to bring these kids together so that we
• 1:20:43
  can be producing outstanding citizens.
• 1:20:48
  I think what he's trying to say,
• 1:20:52
  they've become tolerant of each other.
• 1:20:55
  And so they'll be tolerant of the world and be good citizens.
• 1:21:00
  Had to learn to be tolerant of
• 1:21:02
  the Mckelty's of the family, the
• 1:21:06
  Robyns of the family. No.
• 1:21:10
  And so they're going to be good citizens.
• 1:21:13
  I love. Janelle is on this list for you.
• 1:21:16
  Mckelty. Janelle and Robyn like oh.
• 1:21:19
  And the Christians, the naivete.
• 1:21:21
  Thank you. I can support the world.
• 1:21:23
  I can, absolutely. The marries, the particulars,
• 1:21:26
  you know, they've grown up in this large of the family, the
• 1:21:30
  code bodies, the narcissists of the world, they're going to be
• 1:21:45
  dynamic family. It's almost like when your
• 1:21:48
  parents insist that you try foods.
• 1:21:50
  Yeah. So that you know, if you like
• 1:21:52
  them or not. You know, it's almost like maybe
• 1:21:58
  Let's get into mousse bouche of people in this family and let's
• 1:22:01
  see how we all react together.
• 1:22:03
  well-rounded citizen because you've had to taste all the
• 1:22:06
  flavors. Kennedy's not the only one with
• 1:22:09
  a charcuterie board on this episode.
• 1:22:11
  The Brown family is a charcuterie board.
• 1:22:14
  You don't like olives? Tough shit.
• 1:22:15
  It's touching. That salami you're going to eat?
• 1:22:17
  You don't like rotten cheese? Too bad, avoid it.
• 1:22:21
  Rotten cheese. I'm not talking about my quality
• 1:22:24
  at all. They're just on the circuitry
• 1:22:27
  board in general. Some good flavors, some
• 1:22:29
  disgusting flavors, and the entire spectrum in between.
• 1:22:33
  Now you got the crackers. Oh, this is give me some.
• 1:22:36
  Just give me a cracker. Literally.
• 1:22:38
  All a bunch of fucking crackers.
• 1:22:40
  Boys, not only does he love some spuds, but he can eat a cracker.
• 1:22:46
  dynamic flavors in my mouth. I could use it just like a
• 1:22:49
  buttercup. A Raisin.
• 1:22:51
  A Raisin. There's a bunch of raisins in
• 1:22:53
  this. Family.
• 1:22:53
  There are some reasons in this
• 1:22:56
  inedible? Are.
• 1:22:58
  They a blueberry Raisin. Are they a grape Raisin?
• 1:23:01
  Are they a crazin? Are you excited about them being
• 1:23:05
  in your mouth now? The worst part about this entire
• 1:23:08
  episode for me was that the episode ends with Robyn hugging
• 1:23:12
  Logan at the cul-de-sac. Like, oh, Robyn's going to give
• 1:23:17
  him a farewell embrace. And I'm like, puke, puke, vomit
• 1:23:21
  because Robyn has been the least
• 1:23:24
  child. He's off to college and we have
• 1:23:26
  to give her the nice edit? Fuck that.
• 1:23:29
  Like, OK, so her sister made a disgusting quilt.
• 1:23:32
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:23:34
  I wish they'd shown him peeling out of the cul-de-sac with the
• 1:23:41
  That was so good. He's like bye bitches.
• 1:23:45
  Peace out, Girl Scouts. Yes, shoot.
• 1:23:48
  Eat my shit. So good.
• 1:23:51
  Squealing tires. Logan leaving.
• 1:23:53
  That would have been a better way to end the episode.
• 1:23:56
  Yeah, Cuddle monkey, you failed us again.
• 1:23:58
  As per usual. Usual and another end of a
• 1:24:01
  season with us at the cul-de-sac.
• 1:24:04
  There were no kites. There was no fake wine there.
• 1:24:08
  Was some framing. There was some framing and there
• 1:24:14
  Darling, how do you feel? I feel like they just keep
• 1:24:19
  bringing us on back to the cul-de-sac and the baby and I'm
• 1:24:24
  uncomfortable with it all. Yeah, leaving my ass just a
• 1:24:28
  little trapped. Oh a chapped ass.
• 1:24:30
  I love how I said oh a chapped ass.
• 1:24:34
  Like not a fan of a chapped ass. I'm really hoping that in season
• 1:24:44
  End with Meri deciding whether she's going to have a baby or
• 1:24:48
  not. We better not end there again or
• 1:24:56
  appointments for my ass or I'm going to need to call a Robyn
• 1:25:01
  and be like, you owe me some fucking Boudreaux.
• 1:25:05
  Butt cream. Robyn probably has like 17
• 1:25:09
  bottles of it, even though she hasn't had a baby in like 27
• 1:25:12
  years. She's like, I got to make sure I
• 1:25:15
  I put it on my herpes lips that night.
• 1:25:18
  And I put it under my eyes to help with the bags and it's
• 1:25:23
  like, Oh my God, put it on your goiter, girl.
• 1:25:25
  Your goiter. OK you guys, you've made it to
• 1:25:37
  have. You made it.
• 1:25:37
  Please say you've made it. Please let us know you made it.
• 1:25:40
  Please.
• 1:25:40
  Raise your hand if you're safe.
• 1:25:43
  Let us know if you need butt ointment as well.
• 1:25:46
  If you need Boudreaux's butt paste, just go on Amazon about
• 1:25:52
  now, mustard seed and shit stain, darling, because I am a
• 1:26:01
  You decide. Who here to let me pick?
• 1:26:03
  Yes. And you tell us, do you want a
• 1:26:07
  Oh. I'm excited.
• 1:26:08
  I never get this opportunity as a woman, as a.
• 1:26:13
  Woman. I never get this choice.
• 1:26:17
  I am going to start with my mustard seed and I think it's
• 1:26:23
  going to be very easy and it's going to go to Logan for dealing
• 1:26:51
  like metaphors that came with it.
• 1:26:55
  The teeing up of your dad being bald and ugly when he looked
• 1:26:59
  exactly like you. I'm so sorry for you.
• 1:27:03
  I'm so sorry for that. And you deserve this mustard
• 1:27:07
  seed because this season overall, thank God you made it
• 1:27:13
  and you made it out alive and you were the first to make it
• 1:27:16
  out alive. And we do love you.
• 1:27:19
  We do love you, Logan Brown, and
• 1:27:23
  hope you are well. And so yes, you get my mustard
• 1:27:27
  seed, and I hope you're still flourishing and growing and
• 1:27:30
  making Dijon mustard as we speak.
• 1:27:33
  Why Dijon mustard? I don't know.
• 1:27:35
  There's lots of mustard seed. There's a.
• 1:27:38
  Mustard seed. OK, there's.
• 1:27:40
  A lot of mustard seeds in Dijon.
• 1:27:42
  I love it. I love how I'm like.
• 1:27:44
  I don't get it. I'm.
• 1:27:45
  A damn dummy. I'm Schleu.
• 1:27:47
  Call me Robyn. Just call me.
• 1:27:49
  Robyn. Not like it's made of dull
• 1:27:53
  Pickles. Dull pickle.
• 1:27:54
  It's a big dull pickle. Dull.
• 1:27:56
  My mustard seed for this episode goes to one Janelle Brown
• 1:28:02
  because I think she was a good sport about things with Logan
• 1:28:09
  leaving. I think as far as how emotional
• 1:28:12
  she gets and how she emotes and what she expresses, it was
• 1:28:17
  probably on that wavelength if not a little more from my
• 1:28:22
  perspective. I also like that she didn't have
• 1:28:30
  didn't make the decision I would have made about the concrete pad
• 1:28:36
  ruined by her children and pets.
• 1:28:39
  I do like that she was very practical about the house
• 1:28:43
  choices and the selects like it made sense.
• 1:28:46
  And I think sending off your oldest to college is probably an
• 1:28:49
  emotional experience. And I think that she expressed
• 1:28:54
  herself well for her, I don't know, other than Logan, it was
• 1:28:59
  hard to come up with a mustard
• 1:29:00
  Do you know who else? Like who else would I even pick?
• 1:29:03
  I don't know I feel like Janelle
• 1:29:08
  Kody the way he was standing over her in the video with his
• 1:29:11
  arm around her. But I I agree she did minimal
• 1:29:17
  but OK things in the stuff as.
• 1:29:21
  going. Who else would it be, Christine?
• 1:29:24
  I can't, yeah, because. I know, but I can't do it.
• 1:29:26
  If I was going to say another one, it would probably be
• 1:29:29
  Christine because she didn't give her budget away to Meri,
• 1:29:32
  even though she was pressured to
• 1:29:36
  and she made the right decisions for herself.
• 1:29:39
  And then that was kind of like
• 1:29:41
  Way Yeah, I feel that, but I can't do it, so OK, I appreciate
• 1:29:46
  that though yeah, Shit stain. Shit stain honey.
• 1:29:50
  The smeariest of smears, Yeah,
• 1:29:58
  to be Kody Brown coming in hot
• 1:30:05
  It starts out with him pitting
• 1:30:10
  their budgets. Even though they were supposed
• 1:30:12
  to have an equal budget. He obviously was saying stuff
• 1:30:16
  behind their backs about Oh well
• 1:30:21
  this. And then he straight up fucking
• 1:30:23
  lied not even a minute later to our faces, the viewers, the
• 1:30:27
  viewers faces. He thought a commercial break
• 1:30:30
  would erase our memories and straight upset.
• 1:30:34
  Oh no, I was joking. He was not joking.
• 1:30:36
  He was dead fucking serious about Christine giving her
• 1:30:41
  budget for the front of her house to marry and it's like OK
• 1:30:47
  you disgust me because that is
• 1:30:52
  what was missed behind the scenes?
• 1:30:55
  Second of all, every clip that
• 1:31:01
  hating his hair when he looks exactly like his oldest child
• 1:31:06
  that's about to leave for college and he's talking shit
• 1:31:09
  about himself is disgusting to
• 1:31:14
  Fucking disgusting. Quit talking shit about yourself
• 1:31:16
  in front of your children. Quit talking shit about yourself
• 1:31:19
  when you literally look exactly like your oldest child with the
• 1:31:22
  same haircut that he has when he's about to leave for college.
• 1:31:25
  Like get a grip on reality. You're not that important.
• 1:31:29
  No one gives a fuck about your
• 1:31:32
  self-righteous, self-centered piece of brown under a schmear.
• 1:31:38
  Third of all, he can't grill a
• 1:31:43
  If I said all right, I'm going
• 1:31:48
  ass, grill me the perfect medium
• 1:31:56
  well, well, well. Embarrassment.
• 1:32:00
  Fucking embarrassment. It's not even to men.
• 1:32:04
  I'm not saying to men. It's an embarrassment to anyone
• 1:32:06
  who can claim to grill a steak.
• 1:32:08
  I don't claim to grill a steak. I can't fucking grill a steak to
• 1:32:12
  That's going to be your thing. I can't do it.
• 1:32:14
  Don't fuck it up. Don't put a firework under my
• 1:32:17
  ass. I'm not claiming I can do it.
• 1:32:19
  Kody. Fuck you.
• 1:32:21
  You can't grill a steak. Yeah.
• 1:32:22
  And then at the end, it's like the baby comment again.
• 1:32:27
  Womp, womp. Bringing it back to Robyn.
• 1:32:29
  Womp, womp. Bring it back to the cul-de-sac.
• 1:32:34
  Repeatedly, again and again. This whole episode.
• 1:32:37
  You're failing us as per usual.
• 1:32:39
  And so you get my shit stain. Yeah, that's that's that.
• 1:32:43
  I'm wrestling between Meri and Robyn.
• 1:32:47
  OK. And I think I'm, I think
• 1:32:50
  unfortunately, I'm going to default to Robyn because Meri,
• 1:33:01
  Like some serious issues going on there.
• 1:33:03
  Maybe a little Hershey squirt. Right, like a little like, girl,
• 1:33:08
  But I'm kidding. Maybe like the little girl you
• 1:33:15
  Girl, you need to just go and. Check yourself.
• 1:33:20
  Like just if you. If you don't, that's fine, but
• 1:33:29
  though I feel like she's tied with Meri because Robyn, I feel
• 1:33:34
  like giving the quilt to Logan was a way to draw attention to
• 1:33:44
  like, I feel like if I do this thing, it's like a signifier
• 1:33:47
  about me. It's like a thing.
• 1:33:49
  It's like a look at me kind of moment.
• 1:33:51
  And so she got to have her sister make this quilt with
• 1:33:55
  everyone's hideous school photos on it and be like, look, and if
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  you turn it over, it's even uglier.
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  And he'll be able to take this with him forever and it'll be
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  this big imprint on his life. And then when we're doing the go
• 1:34:10
  the least involved in Logan's life, gets to like carry over
• 1:34:15
  the laundry basket with the quilt in it and then be like,
• 1:34:18
  let me tell you a story and let me blah, blah, blah.
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  And then when they're wrapping up the fucking episode, she's
• 1:34:25
  hugging him goodbye. Like, oh, my child's going off
• 1:34:30
  doesn't even know how to spell your former last name.
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  Like you're not. Or your first name.
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  Most people don't. Know.
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  That's good. I just, even though I feel like
• 1:34:43
  there's more reasons on a list to give it to Meri, I'm giving
• 1:34:51
  in these episodes and sometimes there's not even attention
• 1:34:54
  brought to it. Like on this one.
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  I feel like if you were casually viewing it and you didn't know
• 1:35:00
  She's doing this thing and she's whatever.
• 1:35:02
  It's like, no, she's putting headphones on her baby.
• 1:35:05
  I was going to say the putting the headphones on the baby.
• 1:35:08
  It's another one. It's another one.
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  She's wearing her hideous jewelry.
• 1:35:12
  She's Hawking her sister's terrible quilts.
• 1:35:15
  She's just a mess. If anything the quilt is to like
• 1:35:23
  fucked up. I think I I don't think her
• 1:35:25
  sister made that out of the generosity of her heart.
• 1:35:27
  And it was probably okayed by Kody because every penny that
• 1:35:31
  Robyn spends is okayed by Kody. And she probably has an Etsy
• 1:35:34
  store that was like a linked somewhere online on those face
• 1:35:41
  unraveling, I believe of this family is Robyn's out of control
• 1:35:45
  So this is just a little tidbit into oh, not even her bio kid,
• 1:35:53
  about her opinion and what she's doing or whatever.
• 1:35:55
  She's like, let me spend a bunch of money on this thing and make
• 1:35:58
  it all about me even though I'm not making it about me.
• 1:36:01
  She's covert, She's manipulative, but she's also
• 1:36:04
  like dumb. So I don't know how she does it.
• 1:36:08
  manipulative? Well, you can.
• 1:36:09
  Be selfish and dumb, just like
• 1:36:13
  dumb. Yeah, I just don't know.
• 1:36:16
  I mean, any dumb person can spend a shit ton of money and
• 1:36:20
  like hurt their whole fucking family and not understand the
• 1:36:25
  gravity of it because they're a narcissist.
• 1:36:27
  You know, like true. Any narcissist can also go
• 1:36:31
  online and talk to whoever they want to make themselves feel
• 1:36:34
  better and then come back and be
• 1:36:39
  I didn't realize that emotional cheating was a thing and I
• 1:36:42
  didn't realize it was hurting you.
• 1:36:44
  Like people are so fucking dumb.
• 1:36:46
  And actually, I would argue that most narcissists are dumb and
• 1:36:51
  that's part of the reason that they're narcissists is because
• 1:36:57
  intelligence and other people's emotions.
• 1:36:59
  Regardless of who's dumb in this family, they're, well, they're
• 1:37:06
  There's a lot of dumb things and dumb people happening on this
• 1:37:10
  show and this episode in particular.
• 1:37:12
  Robyn, even though, like I've already said, I think Meri
• 1:37:16
  qualifies more in certain ways, I think Robyn is more fuck you
• 1:37:25
  Like Meri's defensiveness with Kody and them both making up the
• 1:37:32
  I'm done, blah blah, blah blah, blah.
• 1:37:33
  And then being like, we're all going to pretend everything's
• 1:37:35
  fine here. Totally delusional and
• 1:37:38
  ridiculous. But Robyn, it's like she gets
• 1:37:40
  away with this shit. It's like under the radar and I
• 1:37:44
  just. I think some of the stuff is
• 1:37:47
  like self preservation versus I'm better than.
• 1:37:50
  So you've got like self preservation from Christine and
• 1:37:54
  Janelle and you get something in between from Meri and then
• 1:37:59
  you get like I am better than and I rise above from Kody and
• 1:38:04
  Robyn. I feel that for sure, yeah.
• 1:38:07
  And in the recent episodes where
• 1:38:10
  between Kody and Robyn, I absolutely agreed.
• 1:38:13
  And they're not necessarily so
• 1:38:17
  It's like if you really stop and
• 1:38:21
  not take accountability. They love to do things where no
• 1:38:24
  one's going to really notice what's happening.
• 1:38:26
  They want to prove they're very approval based.
• 1:38:29
  And so it's like, I can't be a
• 1:38:32
  I need to look good. Like circular thoughts.
• 1:38:36
  I'm going to blame other people and I don't want to be the fall
• 1:38:40
  guy. Exactly.
• 1:38:42
  Exactly. Well OK, so Kody and Robyn get
• 1:38:45
  the shit stains for the end of
• 1:38:47
  Makes sense. The math is mathing on that.
• 1:38:49
  It sure is. Our keep sweet moment for this
• 1:38:52
  episode is a TikTok comment left
• 1:38:58
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• 1:38:59
  It's kind of got a little ring to it like that.
• 1:39:02
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• 1:39:05
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• 1:39:09
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• 1:39:28
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• 1:39:32
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• 1:40:06
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