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Cubs acquire David Peterson, MLB proposal to cap contract length, Ohtani not on same page with Rushing? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Happy Thursday people. It's Kevin Polar, it's Aer Kratz dancing
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  Speaker 1: Scottie Brown. Also Aj Perzinski with us in spirit, Holy
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  Speaker 1: Aj Persinski today. That's right, we should show it right
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  Speaker 1: off the jump here, AJ and the Pope, the duo
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  Speaker 1: that everyone wanted. The Pope is a huge White Sox fan,
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  Speaker 1: so it's awesome, very cool to see AJ meet him
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  Speaker 1: in person. He posted seven year old me at my
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  Speaker 1: first communion, would have never thought I would get to
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  Speaker 1: meet the Holy Father Pope Leo. I was honored to
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  Speaker 1: give him the last out ball from Game one of
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  Speaker 1: the two thousand and five World Series, the game he attended.
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  Speaker 1: I remember I was there. I was there Kratz when
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  Speaker 1: and there's a great picture of the Pope with the
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  Speaker 1: Perzinski jersey and AJ spam. Really good stuff out there.
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  Speaker 1: Great job by the media team out there too. I
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  Speaker 1: was there Kratz the other day when AJ was looking
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  Speaker 1: around and he was like, I've got it this baseball
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  Speaker 1: from the game that he attended. I'm going to give
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  Speaker 1: this to him.
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  Speaker 2: That's a cool that's a cool gift. Except does anybody
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  Speaker 2: know how Game one ended?
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  Speaker 1: Not?
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  Speaker 2: Well that I remember, wasn't it Scottie POD's walkoff homer.
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  Speaker 2: So AJ kept the ball from.
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  Speaker 1: The oh, I mean, well for them. So wait, you're saying, so.
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  Speaker 2: Did he keep that ball from the top half of
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  Speaker 2: the ninth or do I have my history incorrect?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't blitz me like that on two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and five.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just I thought Scotty Podd's hit the
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  Speaker 2: walkoff homer in game one of the World Series. But
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  Speaker 2: our crack team behind the scenes needs to figure that out.
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  Speaker 2: But also that picture, that first picture, this is cool,
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  Speaker 2: like you meet the pope. That's like meeting like that's
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  Speaker 2: crazy to be And AJ knows everybody, but man, look
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  Speaker 2: at AG's power allies. I didn't know he had it
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Wait no, they got it here, So I mean it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a walk off the white whoa wait no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're showing us.
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  Speaker 2: So this is this is my bad because I should
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  Speaker 2: have I should have done my research ahead of time,
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  Speaker 2: and I got it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, game walk off with game two? Yes, yes, no,
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  Speaker 1: this is right. Game one. They game one Top nine
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  Speaker 1: shut it down and they won the game at home.
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  Speaker 3: Finally, let me tell you something, let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 4: We know AJ and AJ, you know, tends to he
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  Speaker 4: can elaborate the truth. Sometimes he can do some things
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  Speaker 4: that you question his integrity.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes. The one thing he's not doing is lying to
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  Speaker 3: the Pope to his face.
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  Speaker 4: So I think he knows that that ball was the
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  Speaker 4: last hour of that game, and he gave Oh no, no, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we do No.
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  Speaker 2: No. I wasn't saying the ball was I was just
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  Speaker 2: saying I didn't. I thought he had kept the ball
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  Speaker 2: from the top of the knife. But Scottie Pods hit
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  Speaker 2: the walk off in game two, so that was that
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  Speaker 2: was what Bobby Jenks punch punched out, you know whoever
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  Speaker 2: it was to end game one. That's so sick to
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  Speaker 2: give him. That's such a great gift.
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  Speaker 4: There's one place you're not going and not being factual
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  Speaker 4: accurate about what you're giving someone as a gift, and
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  Speaker 4: that's when you're meeting the Pope.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I was not saying that AJ was lying.
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  Speaker 2: I was not saying he was lying.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's still I mean, it's no pretty amazing,
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  Speaker 4: like the fact that you know Chris, you know, like
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  Speaker 4: as a baseball player. Yeah, like there's some really cool
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  Speaker 4: perks of the job, and there's some cool things that
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  Speaker 4: you get to do. But to ever think that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: being a baseball player and then you know, transitioning into
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  Speaker 4: broadcasting too, would allow you the opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: To go to the Vatican and meet the Pope is
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  Speaker 3: pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy. People don't get to do it. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And the Vatican loves the White Sox right now. He
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  Speaker 1: is a real White Sox and he's brought it up
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  Speaker 1: multiple times already. He's got some gear, very cool. AJ
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  Speaker 1: will be back in due time from his tour, Big
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  Speaker 1: Big charge the mound to cover today.
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  Speaker 2: Charge.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming KP you played with David Peterson right longest
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  Speaker 1: tenured met and not anymore. He gets traded to the
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  Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs. ERA north of six, fielding independent pitching number
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  Speaker 1: was in the three since I expected era and not
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  Speaker 1: as bad I think either good ground ball rate. Mets
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  Speaker 1: defense is not great awful. Yesterday in game two of
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  Speaker 1: their double header loss, the Cubs just absolutely molly wopped them.
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  Speaker 1: So what do we think about this? Jeff Passon reporting
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  Speaker 1: it yesterday talking about how the Cubs desperately need starting
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  Speaker 1: pitching help, talking about the ground balls, the fielding independent pitching,
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  Speaker 1: the six on nine Era the Mets, he said, in
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  Speaker 1: field defense to the best in MLB Cubs in field
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  Speaker 1: defense could be a huge health for Peterson. They also
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  Speaker 1: recently lost Edward Cabrera in the past what thirty six
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  Speaker 1: hours to the injured list. They also lost Ben Brown
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  Speaker 1: in the last thirty six hours. Justin Steele is questionable
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  Speaker 1: to return this season. If he does, it'll probably be
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  Speaker 1: as a reliever. Kate Horton was awesome for them last year,
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  Speaker 1: but he's not part of the picture this year. They
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  Speaker 1: need arms. This makes sense to me. KP. David Peterson
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  Speaker 1: needs a change of scenery. And also the Mets are
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  Speaker 1: on their way to selling, so they can say whatever
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  Speaker 1: they want. This is the beginning of the end.
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  Speaker 4: I love everything about this. I love David Peterson as
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  Speaker 4: a picture. I love him as a human being. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's talk about perfect timing. The fact that
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  Speaker 4: the Mets did what they did yesterday and you were
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  Speaker 4: talking about this high ground bawl rate. And then going
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  Speaker 4: from a team like the Mets, who's had their defensive
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  Speaker 4: struggles this year, going to the Cubs. When you look
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  Speaker 4: around that diamond, Michael Bush, Nico Horner, Dansby Swanson, Alex Bregman.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's going to benefit from the fact that
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  Speaker 4: he has those guys behind him. He is going to
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  Speaker 4: a ball that is a little bit more hit or
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  Speaker 4: friendly in terms of the long ball in Chicago, especially
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  Speaker 4: now that the weather's warm there, and we know how
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  Speaker 4: New York can play, you know, not super friendly for
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  Speaker 4: hitters and the long ball, but New York is a
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  Speaker 4: tough place to play. And this is all that David
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  Speaker 4: Peterson's ever known. And he's had kind of an interesting
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  Speaker 4: kind of trajectory in his career. You know, he came
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  Speaker 4: up with a ton of prospect status and kind of
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  Speaker 4: worked himself into the rotation. He's had some moments where
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  Speaker 4: he's been really, really good. He's obviously not having a
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  Speaker 4: great year this year.
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  Speaker 3: But I love it.
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  Speaker 4: I love you know, the fact that anytime you can
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  Speaker 4: get out of a place like New York, especially when
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  Speaker 4: things aren't going well, and you're going to a team
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  Speaker 4: like Chicago where the fan base is, you know, very
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  Speaker 4: warm and welcoming and very passionate, and the fact that
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  Speaker 4: the Cubs are playing better baseball and that they are
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  Speaker 4: expected to be a team that is going to try
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  Speaker 4: to win the division and get to the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: I love it for all parties.
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  Speaker 4: And obviously the Cubs are desperate for any arms right now,
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  Speaker 4: major league ready caliber arms that can you know, slot
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  Speaker 4: into their rotation right now.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that David Peterson.
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  Speaker 4: Wasn't in the Mets rotation anymore, and that they are
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  Speaker 4: on their way to be kind of selling off anything
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  Speaker 4: that they can hear in the near future. I love
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  Speaker 4: when teams don't wait to the deadline too. If you
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  Speaker 4: have a need right now, you know the gap between
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  Speaker 4: now and the deadline, you know so much could change
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  Speaker 4: in that time of where you're at, what the cost is,
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  Speaker 4: and all that stuff. I love when teams are like,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, let's just make the move right now,
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  Speaker 4: because you're probably going to get two, three, four extra
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  Speaker 4: starts out of David Peterson.
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  Speaker 3: Right now between now and the deadline.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love the fact that they did that for
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  Speaker 2: David Peterson because he was out of the rotation. But
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  Speaker 2: this is why they have advanced metrics. How does a
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  Speaker 2: team find value in somebody with a six ZHO nine era.
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  Speaker 2: That FIP is huge and when those guys, I mean
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  Speaker 2: very few teams look at that, or very few fans
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  Speaker 2: look at that and say this guy he should be
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  Speaker 2: a lot luckier, or he should he should be he
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  Speaker 2: should be doing better than he is. They just look
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  Speaker 2: at it and they go, ah, David Peterson six o
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  Speaker 2: nine era, cooked, don't want him anymore. I think this
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  Speaker 2: is something that they that the Cubs could really be
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  Speaker 2: able to add a lot of value to and we'll
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  Speaker 2: get the most value out of it because of exactly
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  Speaker 2: what KP said. Great infield defense.
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  Speaker 1: He's thirty years old and he was an All Star,
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  Speaker 1: wait for it, last year, not like, oh, he was
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  Speaker 1: an All Star in twenty twenty two three. Last year
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  Speaker 1: he was an All Star for the met and he
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  Speaker 1: had a down second half and then it has not
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  Speaker 1: picked up since I've been I would say very critical
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  Speaker 1: of the Mets switching their pitching program from Jeremy Hoffner
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  Speaker 1: to the new regime. Even if the new regime's good,
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  Speaker 1: you just went through turnover with so much of your
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff and then you expect a new roster and
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  Speaker 1: a new coaching staff to all gel from the jump.
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  Speaker 1: And it was stupid. It was a poor decision. The
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  Speaker 1: Mets got smacked again, so they're out of it. They're
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  Speaker 1: done right, They're nine games out of a wild card spot,
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  Speaker 1: and we're almost at July. They're twelve games under five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: It's not happening for them this year. In KP the
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  Speaker 1: Cubs have had their ups and downs, but they scored
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  Speaker 1: ten runs in each of those games. There were six
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  Speaker 1: errors against the Mets in that second game, like it
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  Speaker 1: is all unraveling. CODEI Sango was a mess a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days ago. We talked about it. Right, it was
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  Speaker 1: like eleven outs and ninety eight pitches, like he can't
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  Speaker 1: throw strikes. It is all falling apart. Mets fans are
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  Speaker 1: chanting Pete Alonso in the stands. Keith Hernandez has now
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  Speaker 1: lost it on the Mets broadcast, including saying how what
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: it was the quote, oh my god, goodness. One of
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  Speaker 1: the worst trades in a long while by the Mets.
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  Speaker 1: As Pete Carl Armstrong was doing some damage against them,
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  Speaker 1: they traded Pete for a couple months of Hobby Bayez
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  Speaker 1: to do the thumbs down sign, what a mess, what
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  Speaker 1: a mess?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 1: They miss you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's really funny. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I got to stop, you know, thinking that you're not
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  Speaker 4: going to get to the points. I jumped the gun
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  Speaker 4: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: But I was going to say, who would have thought.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, Pete Alonzo's you know, turning out to have a
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  Speaker 4: pretty good year, he would much be needed in that
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  Speaker 4: Mets lineup right now. But who would have thought Jeremy
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  Speaker 4: Heffner would have been the biggest loss for the Mets
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  Speaker 4: this offseason? Obviously, you see you have a guy like
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  Speaker 4: David Peterson All Star last year, sixty ARRA this year,
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  Speaker 4: and you're looking about the Atlanta braves pitching rotation, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just hammered by injuries, and there's still a team that's
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  Speaker 4: in first place. Their pitching has been outstanding. There's clearly
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  Speaker 4: something that Jeremy Hefner brings to the table that he
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  Speaker 4: clearly did it with the Mets when he was getting
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  Speaker 4: the best out of guys like David Peterson, Codei Singai,
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  Speaker 4: and then obviously you're seeing what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: Right now with the Atlanta Braves.
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  Speaker 4: Who would have really thought that a guy like that
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  Speaker 4: would make such a huge difference in the organization.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, shocker. Pitching coaches matter and Kratz. They also made
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  Speaker 1: Dance re Sponson look like Babe Ruth over a thirty
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  Speaker 1: six hour period as well, oh my gosh, Dansby had
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  Speaker 1: fifteen RBIs in a twenty It was twenty four hour,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. And he had eight RBIs in his last
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven games before going up against the Mets this week,
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  Speaker 1: and they've got one more. But I mean, the Cubs
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  Speaker 1: are six and oh against the Mets. The Mets are
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  Speaker 1: helping their wild card chances, and they might be helping
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  Speaker 1: the team now with David Peterson added to the rotation.
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  Speaker 1: So add it all up. These two teams are in
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  Speaker 1: very different places.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely are, and I think both teams pushed in in
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  Speaker 2: their in their sense of pushing in the Cubs making
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  Speaker 2: moves that you're like, wow, this is what I should
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  Speaker 2: see from the Cubs in the off season. Mets making
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  Speaker 2: moves that, hey, you know what, they are making moves,
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  Speaker 2: which I think they have been doing, but clearly the
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  Speaker 2: moves have not geled. They have not come together as
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  Speaker 2: a team. And this team this season for the Mets
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  Speaker 2: was a wash a long time ago.
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  Speaker 1: M hm, it was. And I know for them, even
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  Speaker 1: if we think David Peterson's gonna rebound, and I think
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to take the under on the Era at six,
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  Speaker 1: starting with his Cub tenure when it's groundball city to
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  Speaker 1: an infield that can vacuum up the baseball as well
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  Speaker 1: as anyone. So Christian Scott returns for them this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: He'll take one spot. They just announced Zach Thornton is
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  Speaker 1: going to take another spot. But like, we're in a
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  Speaker 1: mode now where they're very relying on Nolan McLain and
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  Speaker 1: this is his first full season. It is all unraveling right.
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  Speaker 1: The offense was nowhere to be found. Then they went
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  Speaker 1: through the injuries. Now they're going through the starting pitching
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  Speaker 1: injuries plus ineffectiveness. It's not like the Cubs aren't going
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  Speaker 1: through their own issues. I mentioned how many guys are
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  Speaker 1: out for them, and then show Tim Anaga, Colin Ray,
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  Speaker 1: Javier Asad, Matthew Boyd, Like that's your rotation right now
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  Speaker 1: plus Peterson. It's not a shiny rotation. In KPI, I
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  Speaker 1: would make the case that they're probably going to have
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  Speaker 1: to do more. Right, this kind of holds things over
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully can be a guy that fills up some
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  Speaker 1: innings for them. But you would imagine they're going to
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  Speaker 1: go after a starter at the deadline over the next
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  Speaker 1: month or so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't think there's anything wrong with, you know,
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  Speaker 4: plugging in holes. Especially before the trade deadline, you have
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  Speaker 4: a need for a guy to enter your starting rotation.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe they find lightning in a bottle and David Peterson.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it doesn't, but maybe he's just a stopgap. But
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't expect the Cubs to kind of just sit
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  Speaker 4: back with the team that they've kind of built around
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  Speaker 4: the infield and the outfield position. Player wise, they obviously
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  Speaker 4: need more from that pitching staff. You know, they've been
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  Speaker 4: hammered by injuries. You know, when that rotation is fully
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  Speaker 4: healthy and I don't know if everyone is going to
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  Speaker 4: be healthy at the same time, it's a pretty good rotation.
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  Speaker 4: But they're definitely a team that probably needs a frontline
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  Speaker 4: starter at the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you're the MAT's best thing you can
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  Speaker 1: do is try to get Freddy Parolt on track for
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  Speaker 1: a few starts, because you know he's gonna go somewhere
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  Speaker 1: else and he's gonna pitch well, so try and at
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  Speaker 1: least make sure that you get a nice return for him.
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  Speaker 1: I can think back to last year when Zach Allen struggling,
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  Speaker 1: and I know that's kind of carried into this year.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like, damn, you have an asset like that,
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  Speaker 1: and Freddy lost to you. Some good players and Brandon
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  Speaker 1: sprot and Jet Williams try and get him into a
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  Speaker 1: good place over the next whatever five starts so that
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  Speaker 1: you can flip them and get something good because they're toast.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Will Salmon wrote, Oh, they're not necessarily surrendering
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  Speaker 1: yet that they're not coming back from nine games out
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  Speaker 1: of a wildcard at this point and eighty teams in
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  Speaker 1: front of them. Mister Kratz, would you like to read
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  Speaker 1: this tweet from Jason Stark.
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  Speaker 2: I love Jason Stark. People like to talk about win probability.
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  Speaker 2: In the Phillies case the last two games, it's more
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: like win improbability. Their win improbability odds from Greg Stole's
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  Speaker 2: win probability calculator say that three times was point five
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  Speaker 2: to eight percent last night when Turner had a one
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  Speaker 2: to two count which ended up scoring eight runs that inning,
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  Speaker 2: and point two point no two point five percent tonight
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  Speaker 2: when Schwarber was one two count with two outs. As
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  Speaker 2: you know, they won both games.
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  Speaker 1: That's incredible, KPU, what what a run? We had a
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  Speaker 1: great tweet to last night or our team put together
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  Speaker 1: like babe, wake up, it happened again. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: as late as it gets to roll runs together and KP.
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  Speaker 1: You know what those kind of wins mean for the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: ball club. Not every win treated equally in terms of
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the storyline.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, I love what the Phillies are doing.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, much like we probably thought about
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: teams like the Mets. They were just kind of underperforming
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: early in the year, they go out and make a
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: managerial change, you know, with.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Histories repeating itself.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: We saw what happened a couple of years ago when
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: they fired Joe Gilardi and Rob Thomas took over, and
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: then Or Thompson you know, gets fired, Don Mattley takes over.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I mean that team is.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Just loaded with talent, you know, and obviously the emergence
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: of guys like Christopher Sanchez, and then you getting a
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: healthy Zach Wheeler back, and you know, going out and
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: acquiring guy like who's the who am I Lizardo? I
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: mean that team is just I mean, that team is
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: just impressive.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: And the Ats are on pace for the most once
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: of all time.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a good stat.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, we're looking at some upcoming games over the next
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: couple days Seekeek helping us out. First off, we can
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: show this tweet about the Boston Red Sox flight issues
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: leading to an eight or nine am home arrival for
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: seven o'clock game KP against the best pitcher in the
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: American League right now in Cam Schlitzler. Good luck with that.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: It might be the best thing for him. You don't
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: have a whole lot of time to prepare. You're just
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: strictly on adrenaline. But I do believe when something like
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: this happens and you want the best players to go
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: out there and perform the best I do believe that
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: there's a way that the league could potentially step in
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: and just say, play a double header tomorrow, because obviously
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: that's something out of the hands of the players in
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: the organization. Sometimes things like that happen and it's just not,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: you know, entirely fair.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I would say the league will not do that because
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: they do not ever want to cause gate, you know,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: because then teams will be like, oh, our flight got
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: in late, and then people will manipulate it. My thing
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: called the minor leagues, they're gonna have to suck it up,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: and to me, I don't think it affects tonight as
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: much as it'll affect tomorrow night. Is how I always
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: felt like those tough travels in the minor leagues. That's
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: how it affects it. But Wilson might be getting a
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: call from the front office too and be like, Delta
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: is one of our sponsors. Maybe don't say thanks Delta.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Unless you really me and thanks, maybe they really helped
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: to pick you up. I'm kidding. There was definitely sarcasm
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: in that tweet. So on the upcoming games topic this weekend,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and some of this is starting already right with Thursday games.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: You have Phillies and Mets. You have the Yankees, Red Sox,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: like I just mentioned, that's a four gamer, the Dodgers
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and Padres, including a Friday night Roki Sazaki versus Walker
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Bueler matchup that I think is intre if you want
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to grab a ticket for that. In Detroit, it's the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Astros and the Tigers, Reds and Pirates, who both have
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: been like me lately, and you got to see if
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: they stay in the wildcard race, Nationals and Orioles, which
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: is a much better matchup I think than anticipated heading
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: into the year because The Nats are playing okay, although
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: it's a rollercoaster ride when you follow them. Rangers, Blue Jays, Mariners,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Guardians is good. There's really good matchups this weekend, So
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  Speaker 1: helping us look ahead at the schedule. Every single day
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: on FT, We've got breaking news on FT. What will
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the future of the sport look like? The latest proposal
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: from Major League Baseball is in Jesse Rodgers with it
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: first and it's next CBA. The league is prepared posing
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: a max contract length of five years for free agent
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: players that are switching teams. But wait, if you stay
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: with your team, you get an extra year. You can
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: stay for six whole years, no deferred contracts, qualifying offer
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: gone five years to free agency for players thirty or older?
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: What else? And this from Evandralic too. While I'm also
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: reading Jesse Rodgers because he put it in a way. Basically,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: MLB said, if players accept a salary cap, they'll do
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: things like increase the minimum salary number to a million
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: dollars for players with two plus years of service time.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: If you're zero to one, you'd get nine hundred thousand.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: So that's we're currently in the mid to high seven
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: hundreds for the zero to one and then an extra
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars with a full year of service.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: So again MLB is basically this is the part finally
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: where MLB came out and said, if you take the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: salary cap and the draft lowering and all that other stuff,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: will make the minimum salary a million bucks if you
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: have at least two years of service time. Otherwise we're
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: going to go up like one fifty k to nine
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: hundred one hundred k more for players with zero to
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: one years of service time, a potential one hundred k
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: more no more qualifying offer, which affects you know, several
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: players per off season. They'll and then they want to
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: get rid of deferred salary and no change to the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: arbitration process in this one. So that actually is one
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: of the most telling things to me is that they're
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: not offering anything there, then we probably won't see that thing.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: The arbitration process touched in the current battle. But who
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: wants to start here with all of the fun that
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: was thrown Okay, KP.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I just I just want to know if do I
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: get to keep my debut uniform, then I'll sign anything.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: All you want is your debut uniform. I think they
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: would take that trade tomorrow done. We're going to play
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: baseball in twenty twenty seven.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: That feels like that's how they negotiated two cbas ago.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And I was like, wait a minute, this is not important.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Why are we negotiating clubhouse does here? People? But anyway
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: back to this, back to this CBA negotiations.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: So go ahead, Crassy, go go go Craszy. That was
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: that was the point I wanted to make.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I'll follow you.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: No, that's that's really good. I like that. I would
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: just say, in every smattering of what is this like
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: seven eight items, what's the one that's going to be
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: taken out of it? What's the one? Because as a player,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get road, I'm gonna get crushed. Well, all
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: players all they just say no to everything. I think
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: there's an answer somewhere in there. But with their proposal,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: if you remember their proposal, you're not getting drafted until
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: you're older now, So now that falls in line with
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: them saying, okay, if you're thirty years old, you only
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: need five years of service. They're not taking anything away
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: from their value as owners. They're just making sure that
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: they're capping contracts. They're capping the ability to have those contracts.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And I hope as the Players Association looks at these
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: things and continues to not be distracted by the look
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: at this and stays focused on the things that will
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: better the game and not just better players pockets and
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: owner's pockets. And I think there's some nice things here,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: like the whole qualifying offer. To me, I don't think
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: players should really have to negotiate the qualifying offer is
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: what were they offered last year? Set? I think it
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: was like twelve were offered and three picked it up
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: last year. Like that's twelve out of you're talking about
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: forty guys per team, twelve hundred guys that you're negotiating,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Like the owners should just keep it or take it away.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: It's not a majority thing. And owners are like, hey,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: we're totally fine. With that, that's what you want to
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: get rid of.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: And Scott correctly if I'm seeing this correctly, but this
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: is in addition to what they already proposed, in addition
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: to moving the draft.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: You know after high school.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, layers of yeah go out as they're
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: meeting in New York City about this stuff, and really,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: like we need to preface this. Basically, everything we're talking
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: about right now doesn't mean much. Like it's pieing the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: sky from both sides. And then when we get to
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: like February, they'll actually fix a couple things that they
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: really want. So this is right now where you're a
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: little kid and you say, hey, write what you want
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: from Santa, and you're like, I want a million dollars,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I want the world's biggest house. I want all the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: best chefs in the world. Right you just right do
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: you want?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: To me, like to your point, cratsy right now, like
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: I'm still trying to like process all the information. How
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: this is in addition to all the other things. But
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: you talk about like the shiny toy right to me,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: it's like a lot of this stuff is written in
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: like really small print. And then a couple things are
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: in bold print, and like I feel like that's what
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: they're trying to do. Like, obviously players are not for
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: the qualifying offer. That should be something that's gone right
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: free agency a year sooner. We're at thirty years old.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: But they're only like making these little couple adjustments in
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: bold writing and they're putting all like the stuff and
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: find detail in really small print.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Well, let me read a quote then from the MLB side, right,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: because we're kind of trading barbs back and forth. You've
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: got the MLB proposal and you've got the Player Association proposals.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So one of the lead talkers for MLB, the special
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Assistant Baseball Ops, Glenn Kaplan, is the name. We've got
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a quote from him. So he said today, in addition
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to proposing the largest ever increase in the minimum salary
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: earned by over half of MLB players, we accepted two
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: landmark changes to free agency that have been in place
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: for fifty years. We agreed to both the PA's proposal
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to provide earlier access to free agency and their proposal
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to eliminate the qualifying offer system, a provision players view
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: as a drag on free agency. We also propose to
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: eliminate the third compensation and to create a new cornerstone
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: player provision similar to the NBA's bird rights, to give
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: every team affair shot at retaining their fans favorite star players.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: So what happens here in the pr statement is the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: top saying, hey, we gave in on a couple things.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Then at the bottom we're going to talk about a
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: couple of things that we feel like impact fans. The
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: main crux too of this that I think is a
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: good back and forth. Again, most of this is a
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: waste a good back and forth to find out about
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: from you guys, is how much do you think the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: players that have barely been in the league will try
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and uprise over getting an extra one hundred grand or
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: something along those lines, right, Because MLB is trying to say, hey,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: we're going to give you a little bit more money.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: We're going to raise the minimum salary. Now, the sport
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: keeps increasing by tons of percentage points in terms of revenue,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and that minimum salary should go up anyway, but they
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: should use that as a bargaining chip. So they're like,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: we're going to increase minimum salary and increase incentives for
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: younger players to try and get them to agree to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: some things that we want to change within the sport.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: This is the whole dichotomy of trying to crack a
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: group that has a thousand people versus a group that
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: has thirty.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would hope so young players are not
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: going to crack over one hundred k, And I know
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: the life expectancy of a Major League Baseball player somewhere
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: around three years. So an extra one hundred k for
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: some guys that get to three year service TID. I mean,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: that's three hundred grand. That's a pretty significant amount of
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: money to them. But I almost just feel like, you know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: when you're on one side of the spectrum, when you're
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: like a player and you're part of the players Association
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: and you're going against you know, the owners in Major
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: League Baseball, it feels very political, and I hate that
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: we're kind of in this climate. I related a lot
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: to politics, Like whether you're on one side of the
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: spectrum of the other, you can still believe that the
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: other side has maybe potentially some good ideas. And I
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: just feel like we're at this point where there's some
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: there's some things in there, and I don't know at
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: what cost I would trade those things for but I
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: do believe that there are some things in there that
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: would make the game a little bit better. I don't
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: know what the trade off is, but I feel like
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: the owners would never say it about the player's side.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: If they came up with some good ideas, they would
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: never agree to those ideas good.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I just feel like.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: We're in a really tough spot, you know, obviously politically,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: but also like when it comes to this, like it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: your way or the other side doesn't matter. Like I
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: think we're we're obviously out of point too. We've taken
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: our footballs and gone to the other goalposts when we
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: should be trying to get, you know, meeting at the
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: fifty yart line. But you know, it's tough, you know
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: for me to like see some of the stuff and
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: really process it. Like I don't want to like speak
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: out a turn. I'm like, I'm really trying to process
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: all all this new information that just came out.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they want to cap the stars. This is
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: coming in live as we talk. And last thing is
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: free agents would be limited. This is Jeff Passing tweeting
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to five years, two oh two mil on contracts because
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: all of this is if they take a cap. Otherwise,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: none of this even means anything. That's what MLB's main
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: crux of everything this go around, this fight is about
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: much more on this. We'll have a guest on it tomorrow.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Be right back.
• 28:59
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• 30:00
  Speaker 1: for your old team, KP. The Braves were swept for
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the first time this season. Padres needed it more than
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the Braves. Braves, I've lost nine in a row at
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Petco Park, They've dropped ten of thirteen. Whatever, I'm not
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: worried about them. They'll be fun. I actually think they've
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: got some starting pitching coming back. I forgot about Raynaldo Lopez.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: He returns for on a pitch count on Friday, Smith
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Shauber working his way back, Hirston waldrip like there's some
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: depth there. They still need a big boy at the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: top along with Sale, et cetera. But KP, what are
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: you seeing from this team lately? And your concern meter
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: not for them making the playoffs, but for them being
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: only four and a half games clear of the Phillies
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: in the division.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the Phillies are real concern.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not concerned about the Braves in the long term.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Like you mentioned, I think if anyone would have you know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: said where they were at at this point of the season,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: given all the injuries that they had in spring training,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: especially to their starting pitching staff, and the fact that
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: they have had, you know, trouble the last couple of
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: years staying healthy on the position side, the fact that
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Akunya has been in out of the lineup. Drake Baldwin's
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: missed some time, you know, Murphy missed the beginning of
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: the year. He came back for like a week, He's
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: been hurt again. You know, They've kind of just been
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: patching together a pitching rotation, and they've had superstars in
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: and out of their lineup this year. I have no concern.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: My only concern is I do think the Phillies are
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: here to stay. I think they are kind of like
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: a runaway train right now. You know, as much as
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: it is an advantage to win the division and potentially
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: have a buy in the first round, I think with
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: the amount of pitching that the Braves have coming back,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: the fact that they have Chris Saale you know, as
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: their ace, and then just knowing AA, they have the
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: ability to go out and find another ace as well.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: That's what he said, that's what he said.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Well, let's start with the headliner, show Hey, Tani said
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: he has to get more on the same page with
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Dalton Rushing and KP Man. Anybody, whether your first day
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: in the BIGS or you're fifteen years in the bigs,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: have you heard that from show Hey A Tani? You'd
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: be like, ah, that hurts, and Rushing was very accountable,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: basically saying he sucks and he's got to be better
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: about that particular situation. Otani giving up five earned runs
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: across ten starts this season, with Will Smith catching five
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: earned runs across ten starts. He's allowed nine with Rushing
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: behind the plate over the last three games Smith's spin out.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: So KPU watched many highlights from this one. Tell me
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: what was going on to not have them be on
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the same page and to get Otani to the point
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: that postgame, as nice as he is, he did say, hey, like,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: we're not on the same page. That's about as mean
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: as you'll get from someone like show Hey.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there was a there was a couple
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: you know, close calls and some pivotal times in the game, yes,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: they were a little bit earlier in the game, but
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: they were kind of leverage counts. Runner at third base,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Rushing in nestley catched the ball, you know, very cleanly
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: in the zone. You know, show Hey thought it was
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: a pitch worthy of challenge. He went to you know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: challenge it. Rushing was shaking his head. Ultimately, Otani was right.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: There was another scenario in the game where looked like
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: a two seam fastball kind of ran away, you know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: and Rushing kind of went to chase after run scored,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: and his body language just you know, wasn't good for
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: a guy who's young and you got the.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Best player on the planet on the mound.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: But you know, I kind of wanted to ask Cratzy too,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: is it you know, it feels like.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: You have to have a.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Certain type of personality to you know, be a backup
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: catch it. And I know Rushing right now is the
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: starting catcher because Will Smith there. It just to me,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: you know, he's a young kind of budding star who
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: has to kind of play second fiddle to Will Smith.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: But I mean, you do you see that as being
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: a challenge because typically the backup catcher is a guy
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: that isn't really known by the baseball world.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: He kind of just does his job.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: He can be a little bit of a punching bag
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: for the starting pitching. He's kind of like a yes man.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: He'll take the blame, you know, he would be the
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: first guy to answer questions be like that's on me,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: not on show.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Hey.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: But it feels like there's a challenge when you do
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: have a young kid who's coming up, who's very confident
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: in his ability. He's very emotional. Am I am, I
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: seeings correctly correct.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: You're spot on. You're spot on with it. And it's
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: nothing against Dalton Rushing. Every player should think they are
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: the starting catcher and right now on this team for
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the next I think nine more years. Will Smith is
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: a starting catcher. He has that, he has that contract
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: that's going to give that to him, and the Dodgers
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: chose to get rid of Austin Barnes and go with
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Dalton Rushing. Is Dalt Rushing a better catcher? Absolutely? Is
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Austin Barnes valuable to the team. Absolutely. So that was
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: where my whole contradiction from what they were doing before,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: where they called Dalton Rushing up to be the backup
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: didn't know how it was going to go. I mean,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the dude was on fire offensively, and so he was
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: adding so much value to this team. For this to
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: come out, have any other pitchers come out and said, oh,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I just I can't throw I can't throw an a
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Dalton and rushing. No. Are other pictures doing really well? Yes,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: So to me, it's just a one picture to that catcher,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and there is pressure. I've caught aces, I've caught future
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famers that are now currently Hall of Famers,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: and it's intimidating as the backup catcher. You watch, Okay,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: the starter caught this guy. He throws to them all
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: the time. Bang starter goes down. Now you're the guy
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: that has to step in and catch and it's not easy,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: and the whole like challenging it and everything. If that's
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: if that, if that play happens and Robleski's on the mount,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: it's way different feeling than it is when Shoheo Tani's
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: on the mount and then he says, yes, I want
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: to challenge it, and then you're wrong, and you're like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this is just compounding for me. I
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: love what the Dodgers did. They a lot of the
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: veterans put their arm around them, helped them out. It's
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: because they're all with them in those situations. And yes,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: you're exactly right, But when you're watching it, what do
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: you what's your view of backup catchers when you're on
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the teams that you were on the best backup catchers.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: When you're on those teams.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Great teammates fly under the radar. I mean maybe we
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: might be the only guy who knows their name, Like
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: the baseball world doesn't know their name. They fly under
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: the radar, you know, and they're just students of the game.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Like they either kind of latch on with one starting
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: you know, pitcher gives you know, your starter a day
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: off every four days, and he has a really good
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: working relationship with one guy. And from everything that I've understood,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: and I could be wrong in this, cratsy, but when
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: you were a good backup catcher, you are just trying
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: to get on the same page with that starting pitcher.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: You're trying to get him through that game. You're trying
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: to put up zeros. Whatever you do offensively is a bonus.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Like you know you're up against eight ball because you're
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: playing once every five days, more than likely you're probably
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: going again against the other guy's ace.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: That's I feel like that's how it always happens for
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: a backup catcher. But yeah, I mean, and some of
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: those guys probably believe that they were more than a
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: backup catcher and that they and not to say you
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: shouldn't be confident in your ability, but you also have
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: to understand your role in this situation. And right now,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: he is the starting catcher. And I've seen it with
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: other teams when a starter goes down and the backup
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: comes in and he's got to play every day, there
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: is this element of potentially being overexposed offensively, pitch framing, whatever,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: you know, game calling relationships with him. Some guys are
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: just better suited for kind of you know, it's almost
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: like that that sprint you go in once every five
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: days and you could just play with your hair on
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: fire and you have it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: But when you have to do.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: That every single day, you know, when the starter's out,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: you get exposed a little bit.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would say, don't rushing again. Is a
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: starting catcher, and I think he should be a starting catcher,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: And so I think this is like, this is different
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: than talking about me. For me, the one characteristic that
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you didn't say about a backup catcher is he has
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: to be supremely confident, not intimidated, and show none of that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: And I think I'm not saying don't rushing doesn't do that.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I'm saying as a backup catcher, just in general, you
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: have to understand that when the starter comes back, you're
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: not going to be in there. It doesn't mean you're
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: you're not very good. It just means he's better than
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you are. And you still have to be confident in
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: what you can do. And I think there's value in
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: that as a veteran start, as a veteran backup, that
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: it adds to teams because catching is really the only position,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I don't care what people say about platooning. Catching is
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the only position where you have to get elite production
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: from two guys as a group. If you were if
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: you were a j. Percinski's backup catcher, you really got
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: to do very little. You got to play about twenty
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: five games if you are you know, I'm trying to think,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: you know, they they cut down Will Smith's games, so
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe they want him to catch about one
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: hundred and ten hundred and twenty game. So now you
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: got to have a guy that can catch fifty games.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: And so it's different for each team, but you need
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: to try to get one hundred and sixty two games
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: out of two guys. And that doesn't happen at any
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: other position. Think about that. Across the game. It doesn't
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: happen in any other position, even in platoons. This is
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: why it's it's crazy. And I think a lot of
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: starting catchers appreciate what the backup does on really good
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: teams because they are one in the same because they're
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: always talking, Hey, last time I caught this guy, last
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: time I caught show, Hey, this is what I saw
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: from him. Make sure you're doing this and as a backup,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: that is invaluable. And the one last thing I had
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: to say about backups is if you bring in a
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: superstar pitcher and you say, oh, well, I need him
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: to catch this guy? What like to me that that
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: That was always one of the things that I and
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Joe Madden's coming on, and he had this case, actually,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: why do I pay one hundred and fifty million dollars
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: to a superstar pitcher but he needs this backup to
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: catch in my opinion, the best backups get the most
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: out of fours and fives in your rotation, and you
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: let the starter catch the best pitchers, because those are
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the guys that, you know what, they should be able
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to call their own game. And I have no problem
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: with Shohey saying, you know what, I'm going to hit
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the little PitchCom thing right now and we'll get through
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: it and we'll slowly learn for the next start, which
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Dalton Rushing is going to be out there for.
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  Speaker 1: for details. Oh this is so timely Kratz. Pedro Martinez
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: yesterday said I'm a better gardener than I was a pitcher.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: The only thing I enjoyed more than working my garden
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: was probably protecting one of my teammates, taking pride in
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: it and doing it right. A fan was like, dude,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: with all due respect, there's no way you are a
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: top five gardener of all time. And I'll take the
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: other data. You were a really good pitcher. If you
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: take your percentile of how good you are in human
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: history at throwing and spinning a baseball versus your percent
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: tile of how good you are at gardening, I'll take
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the pitching advantage. I think as good as you think
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you are, you were better on the mound.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's fair, that's fair, but he probably didn't think
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: he was as good. Like there's a confidence, but then
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: there's also like you're holding yourself to a high standard,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: and maybe in gardening he's like I am not once
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: killing a tomato plant. I wonder if he's a vegetable
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: gardener or if he's like a flower gardener, because they're different,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: two different kinds. I delve into the vegetable gardening part.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I try to grow everything that makes salsa. That's what
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I try to grow.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I love that, but also, like, how do you rank
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: who the best gardeners are? Are you looking for like
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the all time gardens or those gardens you know they
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: have a larger payroll and there's no cap on them.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of difficult to weigh that, Like how
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: do we find out who the best gardeners are?
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Success rate? How many plants do you kill? What are
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: you getting out of the plants that you're Like? Are
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: your flowers just terrific every year? Are your perennials better
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: than your annuals that you're buying? Like all that? It all,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: it's it's a lot. It's like more we don't.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Know what goes into So you're a rate stats guy
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: on gardening.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Got it?
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Yep, Eric Kratz, you should have grabbed Saren Judges MLB
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: debut jersey several years. I wasn't.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I wasn't there in sixteen, I wasn't there in sixty.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I was there in a rookie year. But yes, I
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: should have stolen a lot of things from Aaron Judges.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Bother, it's going to go for three to five million
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: when it goes up for auction next month. Three to
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: five million dollars for Aaron Judges first jersey as a Yankee. Yes.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it kills me that he doesn't have that in
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: his house, I tweeted when this came out. I responded,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: it kills me. You should have KP. Do you have
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: your jersey?
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I do, okay, And I think every player I think
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: every player should. I think there's obviously, I know money
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: is what makes the world go around, but there's certain
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: things that are you know, money can't buy for a player,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: like getting my first hit baseball. You know, I don't
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: know what it would have sold for, probably not much money,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: but it's invaluable to me.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: I don't crat say if your kid's ever asked you,
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: And I know this was a question you'd probably asked
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: your parents a long time ago. You know, if the
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: house burned down, what's the first thing you would grab?
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Like our parents would always would have said photo albums, right,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: because those are memories you can't get back. My kids
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: asked me that same thing, and it's like, obviously, I'm
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: taking my phone, right because my whole life's on my phone,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: photos and everything of a family since.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: You were born.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: But I'm probably going into my office and I'm probably
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: taking a couple of those things that I can't replace,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: like my first hit, my first homer, like those things
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: money can't buy. Every player should have those things.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: It's a travesty and it's something that owners got really
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: swept under the rug, the whole memorabilia and the amount
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: of money. Last I heard it was it passed a
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: one billion dollar industry for or Major League Baseball owners
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: that none of that money gets shared with the players.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: And this is just a prime example of Steiner had
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: a contract with the Yankees, and when I was playing there,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys would get into it and they'd say, Oh,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: that's my debut jersey, and they would be like actually
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Steiner owns that jersey now, But you could sign one
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: hundred items, five hundred items and they'll give that to you.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: What like I got to pay for my debut jersey.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I just feel like it's a I feel like it
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: is a cheap money grab that clearly isn't cheap because
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: three to five million. But it angered me every time
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I saw it because every other place it's different. But hey,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: you know what money makes the world around.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Like you said, KP, did you guys see this one
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: totally snuck under the radar, But I will not let
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it get past this show. Abner Uribe accepted his suspension
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: from eight years ago when he did the DX sign
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: to the Cardinals. Remember eight years ago when he did that, Well,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: they appealed it, and then when he was used like
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: in every game for a week, he was like, Okay,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I'm tired and run the road too, So you got
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the road taxes and all that, I'll take I'll take
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the day off. Let's do that. So it's just the
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: one of the more archaic processes of all time. Yeah,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: that one snuck through. Don't worry, I did not miss
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: that one. I kind of live for notes like that
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: because it grinds my gears. Guys, we're in twenty twenty six.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: When someone appeals something, get the damn job done in
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: like twenty four hours, right, I mean it's been weeks.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I forgot that thing even existed. People were replying to
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the tweet like, wait, what when was that? And I
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: think hobby done is really quickly.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: When you said eight years ago, I really started going
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: back eight years my brain, like what did we do
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: eight years ago? But then, I mean it feels like
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: it right, because that's that was like a very hot topic,
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: like I remember seeing it, but like I would have
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: sworn he had already served it, like or they appealed
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: it and they.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Said no suspension. The fact that he's.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: Doing it this far on the road, it's insane. Why
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: we can't get anything done. That's why we can't get
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: any deals done either. You can't even get an appeal
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: done within three weeks.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: And this is on everyone, right, Like this on the league,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: that is on the player association, like the little stuff
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: the minutia needs to get figured out in a CBA too,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: And I know they work on some of those things.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: They sometimes they'll work on some of those things before
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: they get the big part done, but this is one
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: of them. Hey, guys, can we get an appeal process
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: done like instantly virtually because otherwise relievers never really get penalized.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: They just wait for a day when they're down. What
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: am I missing? How stupid is this? They even have a.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's definitely dumb, but it'll never because there's two
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: sides that are trying to fight for each side's rights,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: and you can't make a precedent out of this.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Then don't do a suspension of one game like it
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: has actual no meaning to a reliever if it's a
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: player that goes every single game every day, if it's
• 48:07
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  Speaker 1: by the US in the match. And they've been given
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  Speaker 1: out a lot of bonus bets because they're scoring right now.
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  Speaker 1: the match. Gambling problem more concerned, there's help called one
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred gambler. Hey, we're back with a very important
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  Speaker 1: message here. A dear friend to the show, David Samson,
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  Speaker 1: lost his daughter Caira yesterday after a nine month, eleven
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  Speaker 1: day fight, he said, against one of the cruelest diseases
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  Speaker 1: he's ever seen up close, a brain cancer for her,
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  Speaker 1: and just wanted to say we are thinking about the
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  Speaker 1: Samson family, and we're thinking about his daughter on a
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  Speaker 1: really really difficult year and a really difficult twenty four hours,
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  Speaker 1: We're going to donate a lot as a company to
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  Speaker 1: the fund there that will go only only directly towards
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  Speaker 1: fighting this terrible, terrible disease. I don't even know how
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  Speaker 1: to say the name of the type of brain cancer,
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  Speaker 1: but brain cancer of all kinds is just terrible. So
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  Speaker 1: it was really heartbreaking to see the news last night
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  Speaker 1: of someone gone way way too soon. David, We are
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