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Bonus: Athletics LLC S3 E40 'I said what I said' January 20, 2023 · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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  Now, let's get on to today's episode cue the music.
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  And we're back another weekend only to make this world a little
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  bit better with some of our nonsense.
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  So here we are Athletics, LLC, welcome one, welcome all we are
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  missing a child tonight, sir, Lucius dealing with little bit
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  of a headache and I mean, I feel like with mr.
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  First build problems, it's a big headache or maybe it's just
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  small, because it's the first world problem.
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  So, anyhow, we hope he gets better and we'll see you next
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  week. But as always, welcome to the
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  child's Clyde. How are we tonight, sir?
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  Hotel Wi-Fi is trash and it's track.
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  See for this summer. The government is downloading
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  all of your files as you speak slowly with the bad Wi-Fi.
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  Governor, how are you tonight? Um, if I told you I had to kill
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  you, I'll just, I'll just leave it at that.
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  Yeah, I'm ready to get the show on though.
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  I'm ready. Yeah.
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  Well, last but not least the Mariano Rivera.
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  You're so clever sir. So quiet.
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  I try. I try.
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  I mean it's, you know, it's almost baseball season.
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  More importantly is track season.
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  It's time to bring in the closer.
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  Well to the things that actually matter.
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  Just kidding, I lie, I lie. But you why?
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  Well let's get the fun. The fun part away out of the
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  way. So Clyde can have some fun NFL
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  predictions. And I like to say this out loud
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  to you Clyde, I actually got a message.
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  That our friend, the governor not by the governor, by somebody
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  else that the governor got it. All right, and I just giggled, I
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  just giggled. So Clyde the door is open for
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  you to walk through and raise them up.
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  I mean, listen, I don't really have a big, I don't really have
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  a big problem with my biggest problem with the, with my, with
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  the NFL in the predictions from last week, is that is the San
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  Diego meltdown guy. I was thoroughly irritated with
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  the San Diego meltdown, there's no way in hell.
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  They should have lost that game. I was about it was it was going
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  to be perfect for, you know, for me otherwise until Monday night.
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  So I'm very irritated with the San Diego debacle.
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  Listen. II, do not enjoy Cowboy Nation,
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  but at as as have, the governor is not a part of that nation in
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  the way that the delusional idiots usually are.
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  So, I'm not here to disrespect the governor, congrats sir, play
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  about as perfect as they could have played that.
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  Back in an excellent game. The better team won.
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  They should have won, they're not playing the Buccaneers this
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  weekend so it is what it is. I was blown away.
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  I was blown away by like how ridiculously bad.
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  The Vault of the Buccaneers defense was like there were
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  human beings running wide open 15 yards.
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  Don't know who number 32 is but he was getting targeted from
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  snap one. Every time there was a past
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  employee number 32 is in the vicinity, I don't know.
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  Todd mon supposed to be defensive guy, the defense was
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  trashed. So congrats enjoy your week.
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  It all ends very soon. Oh gosh, you want me to go next?
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  Yeah, okay. Well I will say that I think
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  every year that we are in existence NFL playoffs Wild Card
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  week, just delivers year after. Year after year.
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  I mean You know, buddy, I can't say anyone saw.
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  San Diego losing that game, but you got that feeling that
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  sinking feeling. I can only imagine how badly it
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  must have gone for those San Diego fans to watch the Jags.
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  Just go up and down the field for an entire half and they
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  could not stop him. It was just like, what are we
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  doing here? It was a scrimmage.
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  It was unbelievable. And you know when if someone if
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  you were to tell someone hey this team in the playoffs was up
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  27 and nothing and lost the game, you would think?
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  Yeah, bunch of chunk, chunk plays, you know, fumble,
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  recoveries pick-six. All no, no.
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  Quite literally, the Jaguars got the ball from a kickoff and just
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  March down the field. And then they stopped.
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  The the the Chargers and then they marched down the field.
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  It was like this is unbelievable because it was really amazing to
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  watch Person. Herbert wasn't out there.
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  Roaming things. This one wasn't.
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  So yeah. But you know I think everything
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  else, you know the Bangles, did they run out of gas did?
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  I mean to think about how close the Ravens were to winning that
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  game? I mean, that's pretty shocking.
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  I mean, you would have thought that the Bangles would have
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  dispatch to them early on but But you know, you get a sense of
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  what happens when these teams play each other over and over
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  and over again. They will find ways to win these
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  games, as for the Cowboys game, by the way, did you know, that
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  was the most watched playoff game in history?
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  Oh exactly. Six million people tuned in to
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  watch that game. Okay, I'll tell you this.
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  I know a Cowboys fan Who didn't even know when the game was.
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  Wow. True story get out.
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  Yeah, so, that was, I mean, as I said, and I don't know if anyone
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  has gone back to look in the group chat, but what was my
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  quote? You remember what I said?
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  Now and I use Clyde's reference in the quote.
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  I said that Dak Prescott would have a one less interception
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  than just a job. That's what I said and sure
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  enough. When he's backpedaling trying to
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  get the ball out of the end zone, he throws a pick and I'm
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  going. This is this is Destiny.
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  You were the winner of the Mega Millions but outside of all of
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  that, nothing gave me more pleasure than Monday morning on
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  first, take to watch the biggest hater in Cowboys is true, have
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  to eat crow, I mean, and they let him have it.
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  Do they let him? Have it all.
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  It was fun. It's been a fun couple days.
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  He went on the air and said, yeah.
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  Well, enjoy it for four more days and I said, all right, I
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  will we shall see because I don't think this is going to be
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  a blowout by any stretch of the imagination.
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  I think this is going to be a very, very equal game.
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  I expect the purse, the team that has the ball at the end of
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  like the last drive. That's who's going to win.
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  Yeah. No, that's my prediction, you
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  know, I because I'm not a college coach, I can do these
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  things. I was in a betting pool, 42
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  people. I got the first five games,
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  right? Yes, I picked Jacksonville.
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  And yes, I picked the Giants. Even worse, the tiebreaker for
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  the game was total points. I have 44, 45 points were scored
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  He did not win the Mega Millions, in the Mega Millions
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  because, you know, there used to be three things you could depend
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  on death, taxes, and Tom Brady. Yes.
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  Not throwing an interception in the end zone.
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  Now, there's back to to, yep. And I was like, you know, this
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  is listen, this is karma. I've never been a Tom Brady fan
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  I completely respect him but never been a Tom Brady fan and
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  we all know how I feel about the Cowboys hmm.
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  So with almost a thousand dollars coming my way ain't no
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  way that the football Karma guys are like, nah.
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  We can't let this happen. He'll be unbearable, which I
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  would certainly be so So, you know, like it's okay.
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  We live to fight another, we live to fight another week.
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  My G-Men are doing their jobs, their act.
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  I don't like the fact that there are actually people out there
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  picking the Giants to beat the Eagles.
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  See? No, no, no need to stay in
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  anybody in the corner because we have the talentless roster and
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  the best coaches and we're just going to try and and play hard
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  and see if we can win. I'm good there.
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  I don't need nobody to tell me. Second.
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  Let me let me check my pics real quick.
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  I'ma stay quiet. I'm going to say yes we have but
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  this past weekend was a lot. Listen, this was a even for a
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  Wildcard Weekend. This was amazing.
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  Yeah, it was some high quality football to watch.
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  I was confused. Why the why the Ravens were
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  attempting to beat the Bangles but it was but it was
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  entertaining to watch. I was perplexed by like the
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  Ghost of Tom Brady, but it was at least entertaining to watch.
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  It was weird to watch it, and I didn't know what I was watching.
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  I had to I had to remind, you know, I had to remind my wife
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  that, you know, next week two Cowboys get to play football
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  again because she hasn't seen them play football.
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  The second week in the playoffs, but like since she was like, 5,
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  15 years 15, but what you were watching was incompetence.
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  Yeah, almost bad. Wow, I don't care.
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  I don't care how goat the goat is he's 45, he throat.
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  They asked that man throw the ball 70 times to mean stupid.
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  Yeah the joke was the joke was made in my house, watching the
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  game that Tom Brady's going to have Tom and gonna have Tommy
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  John surgery and the number of plas number of passes.
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  He threw in that game they said you're gonna go out if you're
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  going to go out this is Sport. We're taking your arm.
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  We're gonna take your arm and just an empty the tank.
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  He would have to leave this board over.
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  He'll be back. All right so we got four games
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  the pork this weekend right? Okay easy I'm going chalk all
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  for home team's a pick the Eagles over my Giants as painful
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  as Is that is a pig. The Chiefs, I picked the bills
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  and I picked the 49ers. Those are my picks for the week.
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  I stand by it. I don't like the fact that it's
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  chalk. I don't like the fact that
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  they're all home that, they're all the home team but that's who
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  I think's going to win the games.
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  Okay, who are you? Are you going to?
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  Are you going to make picks this time?
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  You won't even punk out again. I mean, I didn't punk out, I
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  only made the pick the matter. I mean, all four games.
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  Well, I mean, Down down the line, the same for poops and
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  giggles. I mean.
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  You can't either isn't really a poops and Giggles.
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  I kind of did, nope, when okay, I don't want to see anyone. if
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  you try to give any of any other final results, It's going to be
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  a. That would never happen again.
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  Type thing. So I got to go to the same.
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  She's Eagles bills Niners, it's boring.
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  But I don't, I don't, I can't see it any other way?
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  I really can't. All right.
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  So we'll let the governor close because we all know he's coming
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  with Shenanigans. Listen, I can't remember the
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  last time. Chalk, as we call it emerge from
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  the divisional round. I know, there's no way I'm
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  picking chalk. Question is, who's most likely
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  to lose? There's no way in hell.
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  Dallas is coming into the Bay Area, talk to the nah, that's,
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  that's not a thing. They're the on paper, the best
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  game and for me the most interesting, A game is
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  Cincinnati. Traveling to Buffalo in the
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  context of the Damar, Hamlin situation, and the game that
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  never got played right? No question.
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  That's the best game of the weekend.
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  I can think for so many reasons, Buffalo wins the game even
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  though I consider Cincinnati to be.
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  The most complete team in the playoffs.
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  I just Maybe if the game was in Cincinnati, like the original
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  game was supposed to be. I'd pick Cincinnati.
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  But there's a lot going on there.
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  I just don't see Buffalo losing that game somehow.
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  Which brings us to the other two games.
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  I'm sorry Muammar. We already know he's not going
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  to pick the cheese because he wants to believe this narrator.
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  No. I was saying I'm sorry to you
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  because I know you're rooting for the Giants and I know, you
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  know, so consciously you're like it more people pick the Giants,
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  they're less likely to win, but correct me if I'm wrong, lane,
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  Johnson is not playing. For the eagle.
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  Yeah, yeah. I think I think the Giants are
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  going to win the game and they know we're not going to the
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  game. Now, we are officially not going
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  to know. This is the one thing I have
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  going for us is very difficult to beat a conference foe three
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  times in the same year, that that to that that, okay?
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  There's that part of it. If always every year, right?
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  It's the who's the hot teams at the time that do well, the
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  Giants are high. They lost to the Eagles twice
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  during the regular season and they have a better coach Brian
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  De balls. Coach Brian tables, the best
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  coach in the NFL. So that's a bold statement.
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  I like it. I mean, he does anybody want to
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  bet that he's gonna win coach of the year?
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  As me shit. Hasn't so right now today he's
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  the best coach in the NFL because ain't nobody else
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  getting that roster into the playoffs.
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  So here I'm going, I'm going Giants now.
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  No, I'm not going to pick the Chiefs to lose to Jacksonville.
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  Okay good, just making sure not. I'm not, I'm not gonna pick
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  that, but I mean which version of Trevor Lawrence in the crew
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  of my going to get because the Chiefs defense isn't all that
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  great either. So, I mean again from Saturday,
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  right? I mean, Trevor Lawrence has
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  never lost a game on Saturday and his whole life.
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  Hey well, I don't know what that means here but it right.
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  If I get if I get the the second half version of Trevor Lawrence,
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  I think Jacksonville can make the game interesting because the
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  chief defense isn't any good, they're just not now, do I think
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  Mahomes going to lose that game? No homes in the crew, goes down
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  the next week. But this week.
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  Hmm, The Happening But we'll get to that next week, sir.
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  Well. I don't know if there's any way
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  to say this. The Cowboys are going to beat
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  the 49ers next week. This weekend my gosh just tell
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  us how so wait if this doesn't happen can we change your name
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  on the show for a month to the court jester?
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  Hey whatever whatever, whatever just tell us how though, Because
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  listen, it was fun. It was fun to do the Tampa Bay
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  thing, but we all everybody would have brain understood that
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  the Cowboys were the better team this year.
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  They're not better than San Francisco, but I didn't say
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  that. I didn't say how how, what is
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  the path to winning this game? That don't play another perfect
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  game against an actual defense this time?
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  No, no, no, I believe. That mr.
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  Purdy is going to see a defense that he hasn't seen.
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  I don't know since he started playing.
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  That is so cute. That you think that you think
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  brought are you saying, rock party actually is going to get
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  the opportunity to think. I think block party is I think
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  Brock parties gonna have some challenges this weekend.
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  I think I drank plenty of this weekend.
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  Going to break through the line. Four or five times and scared
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  the bejesus out of mr. Purdy, he's going this way.
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  And number 23 is going to run this way with the football.
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  Okay, I'm sure they game planning for it.
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  But what I'm telling you, is that mr.
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  Purdy is now going to be the Cowboys.
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  So I mean the Cowboys will beat the Cowboys, but all right,
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  okay, this is good. I've submitted I said what I
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  said. Okay, did I miss it?
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  This chest, no less. I didn't hear him.
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  Say it's not going to be decisive.
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  It's not going to be this blowout, whatever.
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  I told I'm telling you. It's going to come down to the
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  last possession and you know, what are the odds that Dak
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  Prescott exercises and demons of of last year?
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  What, what are the odds? Yeah.
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  Next to the last, you know, three minutes drives the the The
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  Cowboys down and kicked the winning field goal.
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  What are the odds, right? So I've washed my hands of that,
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  at least the 49ers fans will do trash on the on the Cowboys
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  quarterback. Like the Cowboys fasted you have
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  to understand my Super Bowl aspirations.
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  All of that have been satisfied. We want a playoff game.
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  I'm good. I have nothing.
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  Nothing like low standards in life, nothing like the court
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  jester is in session. Yes that is play with house
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  money. He's good.
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  There you go. Chiefs will win.
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  I'm just going to leave that at that.
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  The Giants will be the Eagles. Oh, and the Bangles will beat
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  the bills. Oh my Lord.
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  Again, you have he going all antique shop?
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  11 home team will win their game.
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  The Chiefs interesting because I like this.
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  This is equal to you have to pick now.
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  Well she picked Austria you picked one up?
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  Yes. Well then you clearly you're
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  going to get it right? Oh my gosh.
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  I said I said He did. I like it.
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  It's noted in right now. All right.
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  Well, as we say what we say so we've talked about indoor
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  facilities in the past in different aspects of it and and
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  why some people despise the indoor season.
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  But actually utilize it. And some people just think it's
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  the World Championships all on its own.
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  Own. But with the different
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  facilities that are out there with the different access to the
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  facilities out there and the different modes of indoor,
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  competitions will call it. That is the descending list
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  method, really fair. No, I had this conversation.
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  A different aspect. So let's see what comes out. no,
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  it's not fair and it's not fair for the exact same reason and
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  exact same principles that the outdoor descending order list
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  was also meant be done away with It's accept money resources,
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  very rarely, is it about the performances and some events,
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  you can straight up know that. If you don't have access to
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  certain facilities, you're not going to qualify.
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  So you know, I understand that people don't like to hear this
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  and and I get it, I like indoor indoors an awesome part of its
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  part of the year. The weather is always great.
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  It's loud. It's intimate.
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  I like indoor, but at the end of the day in door, needs a
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  regional, just like every just like I got door needed a
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  regional, is it complicated? They're not that really.
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  It is it irritating to think about sure whatever but if you
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  want to have a legitimate, you know situation where people have
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  to like line up and be people to qualify not just have the
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  resources to go to, you know, the favorite place to jump or
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  the favorite places. Sprinting, do what you do.
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  It kinda is but it is the one thing I love about it or the one
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  thing that is super unique to how we do it is that the indoor
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  NCAA Championship is literally the hardest meet on the plan to
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  qualify for. Yep and there's we love it and
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  there's something very easy you know the idli tennis if that's
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  even a word of that setup is amazing. but there's but it's
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  also the ultimate first world problems need because if you
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  don't have the access He ain't getting in there most of the
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  time and that's just the way it is and Italy that plays across
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  events. Like when we talk about this,
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  people's minds, usually goes to 200 400, you know, four by fours
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  and the bags track issue and that's true in those events.
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  But it's also specific to horizontal jumps.
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  It's also a specific specific to where your dmr's are set up.
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  Right. It, it plays.
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  And any given here, you can look at the consistency of the marks
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  new qualifies and see it plain as day.
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  So yeah, no, it's not fair. All right, well, good, I wanted
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  to go second now, I definitely glad I'm going s.
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  So first off, this is 100% only about three events, the 200 to
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  400 and 4x4 is not about any other event and there and any
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  other and any other chicane arethat is brought to this
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  conversation in. Contrary to that is absolute BS,
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  because this is only about three events.
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  The to the 4, and the 4 by 4 because you can qualify for
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  every other event Almost every almost every other place in this
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  country you can qualify. And I mean legitimately I've
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  seen people jump super duper far on flat tracks.
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  I've seen super two people jump. Super duper far on Bank tracks.
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  You have to have access to get, to something more than once
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  100%. We all agree with that, but I
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  want to focus on the thing that really matters, right?
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  Is that It's three events but those three events are so
• 27:58
  high-profile to us. And they're so important in our
• 28:01
  Sprint Pantheon, write that There's no question without
• 28:08
  access multiple times. You are not getting somebody
• 28:13
  qualify for the national for me in the 200.
• 28:15
  You are not getting somebody qualified for the national meet
• 28:18
  in the 400 and you were almost certainly not going to qualify
• 28:23
  for Nationals in the 4x4 unless you are on one of roughly five
• 28:28
  tracks, something of that nature.
• 28:29
  But this is what I find interesting and I think that
• 28:34
  even Even Clyde will find this tact very interested at every
• 28:39
  level. It's about these same events in
• 28:41
  particular, the two in the, for the 200 or so bastardize, that
• 28:45
  from World athletic standpoint, they don't even run it indoors
• 28:47
  anymore. At World Championships, right?
• 28:52
  But but how weird is it? That at the world championship
• 28:56
  level they use Lane 1 through 6 In the 4 and the 4 by 4 mockery
• 29:05
  because we would never do that in this country, right?
• 29:08
  Like laying one indoors is worse than Lane 1 Outdoors.
• 29:14
  Right? And you know what I'm saying?
• 29:16
  It like everybody thinks lame one Outdoors is like, oh my God,
• 29:19
  don't do that. Lay one indoors is legitimately
• 29:21
  like a problem. You can't run there. and so,
• 29:24
  what I find very interesting is that I'm not sure that anybody
• 29:29
  really even knows what to do with this dilemma.
• 29:33
  It is obvious that the 200 is the most affected event by what
• 29:36
  track you run on. There's obvious, right?
• 29:40
  And so at the end of the day, if you're trying to qualify
• 29:42
  somebody for the 200, you have some people that are good enough
• 29:45
  to try and be top 16 in the country, then it behooves you to
• 29:49
  get them to one of those five tracks multiple times because
• 29:52
  that's the only way they're going to get there.
• 29:55
  Almost exactly the same scenario in the 400.
• 29:59
  Now, the 4 by 4, you get away with it a little bit different
• 30:01
  because all the 300 meter tracks, then become playable,
• 30:05
  because you can do it. Over, you know, however many of
• 30:09
  the five and a quarter lap five and a third laps you can still
• 30:14
  run fast enough to get in. But I've always found it
• 30:18
  interesting that like, this always this conversation about.
• 30:22
  The fairness like there are there are Division 1 division to
• 30:29
  division 3. There's there's power 5,
• 30:32
  mid-major group of five is always different simulations in
• 30:35
  schools like because the world isn't fair.
• 30:39
  I'm like, I'm like, Athletics is darwinistic and so at the end of
• 30:45
  the day, it's not fair to not be able to go to you Dove and and
• 30:51
  and be in races that have rabbits, right?
• 30:54
  Just like, it's not fair to not be able to go to Clemson and
• 30:56
  being Lane five. So so at the end of the day
• 31:02
  there is I don't know how to say this.
• 31:07
  There's almost like a fair unfairness to this whole thing,
• 31:10
  right? Like it's better like the tracks
• 31:15
  that you need to be on Mi 3 K 5K.
• 31:21
  Are not necessarily the same traction need to be on for the
• 31:23
  two and the four, right? So with you so at the end of the
• 31:26
  day, if you're trying to qualify your whole team, you gotta go
• 31:29
  all over the place, multiple God in the people with money, do as
• 31:34
  and right. And, so what that tells you is,
• 31:37
  first of all, nobody wants to hear this, but indoor track is a
• 31:40
  privilege, right everybody? Everybody is not trying to kill
• 31:45
  it to run, indoor track. So at the end of the day, like
• 31:50
  Have to know what program you're at.
• 31:52
  You have to know what's important to your Administration
• 31:54
  and then you have to go whole hard.
• 31:56
  Wholeheartedly at that. And that's just kind of what it
• 32:00
  is. Just simply my opinion.
• 32:03
  But yes, I mean I don't think that anybody could ever argue
• 32:06
  that. There's a fair and Equitable
• 32:10
  opportunity for all student athletes at the division.
• 32:13
  One level to qualify in the 200 and 400 the 4x4.
• 32:16
  There is not now, nor has there ever been So I you know, I
• 32:31
  originally planned to go back five years to see the disparity
• 32:37
  between the power of 5 and on power 5.
• 32:40
  And I was going to pick out 60 to 200 to 400 the long jump and
• 32:45
  the triple jump. I was just going to pick five
• 32:48
  events and go with that, so Let's look at last year.
• 32:54
  Okay, long jump men. Guess how many power five
• 33:00
  schools made the long jump? Lists top 16.
• 33:06
  How do you say I'm going to say 9?
• 33:09
  14, 15 and 16? Yeah, yes.
• 33:15
  Yes, even though I was given the small guy, some hope in that one
• 33:18
  missed me too me too. Let's go to the woman.
• 33:22
  Guess how many women's power five schools.
• 33:26
  Made the long jump lists. 14 out of 16. 16 13 13.
• 33:34
  Okay let's go to Triple guess how many power five teams made
• 33:39
  the men's triple Squad made be the little 13, guess how many
• 33:45
  women's teams 4414? So small small snapshot and
• 33:56
  really what I'm getting at every single thing that the mar and
• 34:02
  Clyde said, is absolutely true. Here is a part that is almost
• 34:10
  it's impenetrable. If I had to use a word, the word
• 34:13
  is impenetrable. And what I mean by that is it's
• 34:17
  one thing to get access to the facilities.
• 34:20
  It's another thing to get access to the facilities and the teams.
• 34:25
  And because where are we at? Right now, we're in a world now
• 34:31
  where the SEC literally has the SEC relays, right, and they have
• 34:39
  now created their own thing to rival Penn relays, right?
• 34:45
  And we can go on and on about that.
• 34:48
  Indoors, that is happening every single week, right?
• 34:54
  And and what, what non-power five schools are finding out?
• 34:58
  Is that unless you are of a certain stature, you're not
• 35:03
  going to get invited to certain Meats, you're not okay.
• 35:08
  So all I'm saying is this From a from an intensity standpoint
• 35:15
  from a, you know, just going up head to head with the very best
• 35:22
  the opportunities are thin and thinner and thinner and few and
• 35:27
  far between okay in has by my count.
• 35:31
  Let's just take this year. For example.
• 35:34
  It just so happens that the the NCAA championships will be at
• 35:39
  New Mexico. New Mexico does not have a
• 35:44
  policy. They don't have a situation
• 35:48
  where, well, you can't come, but you can come, you can't come,
• 35:52
  but you can't. Come there.
• 35:54
  They have money to make. They have a budget.
• 35:59
  They have got to make their money, right?
• 36:01
  So, I would say. And, and perhaps Clyde, you
• 36:06
  know, you can chime in, but we, as non power, five schools have
• 36:11
  to pick our spots and we have to pick our spots, very very
• 36:15
  carefully, right? And if so, for instance, if if
• 36:20
  I'm thinking about anyone that could possibly make it to
• 36:23
  Nationals, I want to give them a shot to get on the runway or get
• 36:27
  on the track where they're going to go to Nationals, right?
• 36:31
  And That is a roll of the dice because I really don't know
• 36:37
  who's going to be there this weekend so that that is what I'm
• 36:42
  getting at. It is it is, there is a
• 36:44
  difference between just getting on a track and just assuming
• 36:49
  it's a fast track and it's another thing we're, hey, we're
• 36:54
  going to Clemson. We're going to line up with five
• 36:57
  of the top ten schools in the country.
• 37:00
  And either you are going to prove Yourself or you are going
• 37:04
  to get your ass handed to you, right?
• 37:07
  There is no if ands or buts about it.
• 37:10
  So what I that was really what I was getting at when I started a
• 37:14
  conversation and there is no way to fix that.
• 37:18
  I don't think there's any way it's like this.
• 37:22
  How many sprinters have a chance in hell at the national meet?
• 37:28
  If they're not part of a 4 by 1? 100 meters per knows how many
• 37:35
  Spooner's have actually broken through and got into the finals
• 37:40
  without having that four by one to kick-start their systems.
• 37:47
  There, there are there certain things and certain things, the
• 37:52
  way it's set up and it's no fault of anyone's.
• 37:55
  It's just this is what it is right?
• 37:58
  If you show up to Nationals with a 4 by 1 that is competent, you
• 38:02
  go out and run that race and you have that race in your legs and
• 38:05
  you got to run again in 45 minutes.
• 38:08
  Oh, You are going to fly, right? And that's, that is what that
• 38:13
  is, what we have to deal with. So that's all I was.
• 38:16
  That was all. I was saying it's, we can say
• 38:20
  it's rigged, say whatever, but that's just what it is.
• 38:25
  Yeah, I wouldn't go. I mean I'm sure it's just like I
• 38:30
  said no I'm not. I'm not saying that either.
• 38:33
  It's the one thing that I the one thing I appreciate about the
• 38:39
  New Mexico situation and in the pantheon of my career.
• 38:48
  Hmm well there I was the D2 or men major D1 or maître D more.
• 39:00
  New Mexico is always been gracious with absolutely yeah.
• 39:04
  Yeah I'm coming now maybe now. Maybe.
• 39:07
  That's because I have good relations there but they seem
• 39:11
  that way across the board. The the difference now is 23
• 39:16
  years ago. You may get an opportunity to go
• 39:19
  race in New Mexico at Nationals has been in New Mexico in the
• 39:22
  past but that track wasn't fast. It was local.
• 39:25
  It was skinny you know ain't skinny it you what?
• 39:30
  Sure, that's where the meat is but she wasn't going to roll in
• 39:32
  there to get there. Yeah the new configuration is
• 39:35
  top five Elite. Okay you will see people
• 39:39
  qualified for ncaa's on that trap.
• 39:42
  Yeah. It's it's literally in the same
• 39:45
  ballpark with your Clemson, your Texas Tech and your South
• 39:48
  Carolina in your Arkansas. So, that's dope and that's
• 39:53
  exciting. And, you know, like I said, Joe
• 39:55
  in the crew down in New Mexico, do a great job with those
• 39:58
  events, you know, Don Kirby is usually the biggest meeting of
• 40:01
  the year, right? Getting here and you know for us
• 40:07
  no, mid-major and whatnot, but New Mexico's.
• 40:09
  Also in our conference so we don't ever have a problem
• 40:12
  getting in there. How it works other people, I'm
• 40:14
  not really sure but at the other major places for at least 10
• 40:20
  years, you people have been getting locked out of these
• 40:23
  buildings. Hide it like, nah, we're good.
• 40:34
  And it's, it's really, I mean, it, depending on where you're
• 40:40
  standing, right? Like it's entertaining.
• 40:42
  Like it's funny, right? But it's also, you know, quite
• 40:45
  discouraging, when you have somebody You know, if you're a
• 40:49
  small school, you may only have one or two bullets.
• 40:51
  You could actually fire, right? So you say it with your chest
• 40:55
  Clyde. And that's how many times, how
• 40:57
  many times have you heard? Well, you have to bring your
• 41:00
  squat or? Yeah, I have to bring you full
• 41:02
  Squad me. I've got through this.
• 41:41
  Hard to do. Yes, it is.
• 41:42
  Yeah. Alabama State.
• 41:44
  We don't have the resources to travel all over the place, so 90
• 41:48
  Some of the time we're driving one hour up the street and we're
• 41:51
  competing in Birmingham which is where Nationals was okay?
• 41:55
  Birmingham's, a terrible place to jump.
• 42:00
  It's awful. Yes qualify.
• 42:04
  Because we were able to go to Kentucky and Kentucky is not an
• 42:09
  elite place to run, but they have those elevator runways
• 42:12
  right here on the runway. Got himself into me right.
• 42:16
  Great Outlet strip. That wasn't gonna happen.
• 42:19
  It just wasn't. And that's, you know, the the,
• 42:23
  the, the horizontal jump places are not exactly, you know,
• 42:28
  Arkansas. Qualifies across the board.
• 42:30
  Right. Right.
• 42:31
  Right. Clemson.
• 42:33
  Good place across the board. Yeah.
• 42:35
  Now track New Mexico is indeed an elite place to jump.
• 42:40
  And now they have the track. So, there's places, there's
• 42:43
  Pockets like that, right? But very rarely, do you have a
• 42:47
  facility to just works for everybody?
• 42:48
  And that's like I said it, you know, distance people, they make
• 42:52
  sure they get, they get themselves up to Boston, we are
• 42:55
  and they're, and they're making the calls to each other saying,
• 43:00
  hey, where you going to be no? There, we also it up.
• 43:10
  Yeah, absolutely. It will go to u-dub.
• 43:13
  They will go to Boston. They will go to.
• 43:16
  When Martin was at Iowa State, they would go wherever they
• 43:18
  like, they make the calls examining.
• 43:20
  What's the pace? Make it bang.
• 43:22
  Bang Bang? Yeah, well I will say one thing
• 43:26
  I found interesting from this weekend was too young men from
• 43:30
  Rutgers jump 789 and 788. Yeah.
• 43:33
  In week one at the Armory of all places.
• 43:36
  Yeah, it was was extremely impressive because the arm had
• 43:39
  been Mmmmm, that's not a plate. It's not a great place to jump.
• 43:43
  It is where the Collegiate record was set, but Miguel Pates
• 43:45
  not from this planet, right? So yeah, I was impressed with
• 43:51
  that because like they're getting it mmm-hmm.
• 43:55
  Oh yeah. But to the governor's Point,
• 43:58
  even right now, after week one, there are three, four emails
• 44:02
  currently in top 16 positions, not of the power 5 screen.
• 44:06
  Because Rutgers he's a power five school.
• 44:09
  Yeah, exactly. I mean they don't have a power 5
• 44:13
  facility or any of that stuff, but it is a power, 55 school and
• 44:17
  I will always say this because it absolutely used to happen
• 44:21
  Outdoors. Especially in the field of it
• 44:25
  when you have this descending order list and I'm at all
• 44:28
  suggesting that occurs did anything on sport.
• 44:32
  But when you know, it's a descending order list, it's not
• 44:36
  that difficult to host the me and make sure your marks are
• 44:40
  awesome. It's just not.
• 44:42
  And that's the beauty of the outdoor program, which is a all
• 44:46
  that's cool. But if you end of the day, you
• 44:47
  gotta line up and be people to go through walking on Lamar and
• 44:51
  I could Tell you where those mutts world.
• 44:58
  I mean this is this is back when you tip indoor and outdoor you
• 45:04
  needed a last chance. Meet.
• 45:06
  Oh my goodness. Almost guaranteed.
• 45:10
  You. Okay, I'm not going to say this
• 45:13
  cool because all year, and I'm not going to say this school,
• 45:17
  but you all know what school I'm going to say.
• 45:21
  They used to have a last chance to meet every year, and if you
• 45:24
  wanted to qualify for Nationals, you had to be athletes from that
• 45:28
  school. If they were going, they have a
• 45:46
  beautiful indoor facility. He had the tin can now.
• 45:54
  Yeah you can really run any races in the bubble except the
• 45:57
  55 in the 55. Which by the way, the conversion
• 46:00
  for those were stupid stupid. If we was going to run the 50 50
• 46:06
  to 55 hurdles, at the end of the year, all we was getting in
• 46:17
  Listen, the O'Connell Center at the end of the year with that,
• 46:20
  with the 200 meter Circle and the 55 meter dash.
• 46:26
  Facts. Who's in, love it.
• 46:31
  Well, we will once again see how this plays out.
• 46:35
  Yeah, we're all Circle back once again.
• 46:38
  So alright, talking about marks and descending orders and
• 46:42
  whatnots. It was said, so it's not
• 46:45
  speculation, it's not conversation, it's not hearsay.
• 46:47
  It was put out there in The Ether for people to see here.
• 46:51
  Absorb that was Athletics, bleeding marks.
• 46:55
  Would ultimately be missing a big chunk of marks and those
• 46:59
  marks would be from the NCAA, because the only marks that they
• 47:02
  were going to be ranking, we're going to be their Global tour
• 47:05
  events, it's in the air. Swing Away.
• 47:15
  You know, because I know these two are going to be way better.
• 47:24
  It's just bullshit. I mean, listen, for once being
• 47:33
  beings, like, succinct and crass is probably like spot-on.
• 47:38
  I mean, like, what what are we doing here?
• 47:43
  I could almost I wouldn't, but I could almost, if I felt like
• 47:49
  being petty, make an argument that if World Athletics wants to
• 47:54
  say, for our world rankings, we will only consider marks done on
• 48:01
  our tour. Okay, cool.
• 48:06
  It's a little weird. It's a little highbrow.
• 48:09
  It's a little, you know, but I'm but okay.
• 48:13
  They're just ignoring marks like we're talking about the, the
• 48:16
  list. You're telling me.
• 48:18
  If I go on world Athletics right now and look up the, the world
• 48:23
  leader in the men, 60 were ignoring races that actually
• 48:27
  happened in reality. So we just lying now.
• 48:29
  So, the list is now just as so, I asked off camera because I
• 48:37
  legitimately wanted to know people forget, The best place to
• 48:41
  go get the list. Forever, was all Athletics.com.
• 48:45
  Yeah, well, I'd, uh, aaf at the time now, World Athletics,
• 48:50
  co-opted that whole system and that system is the back end to
• 48:56
  what you see now. So if all the Athletics doesn't
• 49:00
  exist anymore, where the hell am I supposed to go to find the
• 49:02
  world? This the actual World list World
• 49:06
  Athletics has decided they won't lie to me.
• 49:13
  We now, I found the next moneymaker Athletics, LLC will
• 49:18
  come up with Douglas, we could Voice without question, put up
• 49:26
  the list, well then and it would be spectacular.
• 49:30
  Governor, you know, you you have so much more taste and and act
• 49:36
  less vitriol. So I'm going to go second and
• 49:39
  let you close with. Calmness, I am choosing
• 49:43
  violence. I've been adamant for a season
• 49:48
  and a half that world Athletics is corrupt and fugazi and they
• 49:54
  want it their way and it's either going to either, we're
• 49:56
  going to play the game they want to play.
• 49:58
  Well they're going to take their ball and go home.
• 50:01
  That's where we're at. Right?
• 50:04
  Like they have strange and non concrete policies as to how
• 50:12
  meets get on the world athletic store that smells like shady to
• 50:19
  me. You can only get paid from the
• 50:25
  shoe companies who were all in cahoots with World Athletics and
• 50:30
  the meats and the Agents, you can only get paid based on your
• 50:38
  world. Athletics World Ranking, your
• 50:43
  world ranking can only become from marks that you have done at
• 50:51
  World Athletics tour. Meats.
• 50:55
  So if you're in a Collegian International or American and at
• 51:03
  the NCAA Final your as a female you run, 2160, you're not even
• 51:12
  qualified for World Championships because as far as
• 51:16
  world Athletics concerned, that meat didn't even happen.
• 51:19
  Yep. So you don't sure are not ever
• 51:25
  going to get your world Athletics World Ranking based on
• 51:30
  your actual performance because it didn't happen.
• 51:35
  I didn't think they could get any worse than that.
• 51:37
  That is where we left them off. At the end of last season for
• 51:41
  those who haven't followed every week, I went on this diatribe
• 51:45
  after the combined event store, to let the world know that this
• 51:48
  was coming, right? That's where we left them.
• 51:51
  They said Seb Coe said, hold my beer.
• 51:55
  I got one more for you. I'm not even going to dignify my
• 52:01
  eyeballs with the with looking at marks that have not happened
• 52:08
  in meats that I have sanctioned So now we going to literally act
• 52:13
  like a whole ass part of the world doesn't exist.
• 52:21
  If you don't run a 60 in Europe, it doesn't count.
• 52:25
  Right? It's basically where we're at,
• 52:28
  right? Other than what milrose know,
• 52:30
  and there's the Iowa State meet, but they tell me.
• 52:35
  So, there you go Iowa, maybe whatever it is.
• 52:38
  If you don't want to one of those two meets your 60 this
• 52:41
  year is it was on us soil. It's null and void.
• 52:45
  We don't care. You did you must be racing on
• 52:47
  the street with your shoes off as far as world Athletics, is
• 52:51
  concerned. And I'm just like, listen, I've
• 52:55
  said multiple times on this show, the world would be such a
• 53:00
  better place if the governing bodies would just agree to
• 53:08
  agree. Like the n-c-double-a is never
• 53:13
  got into a pissing match with World Athletics.
• 53:15
  The world Athletics, has constantly been in a fight with
• 53:18
  the NCAA. Yep, the u.s. hasn't been in a
• 53:24
  fight with Europe, in a really long time or do Europe is
• 53:29
  constantly in a fight with us and how we do track meets and
• 53:34
  what happens over here. And it's just wild to me to
• 53:38
  where we finally have gotten to the point of this level of
• 53:41
  disrespect. We are not even going to list
• 53:46
  performances. Yeah, that happened.
• 53:50
  Over there. We sanctioned these two Meats.
• 53:55
  We sprinkle a little sanction dust on these two Meats.
• 53:58
  If it didn't happen in these two Meats, it's it's like the tree
• 54:02
  falling in the forest. If nobody heard it, it didn't
• 54:07
  happen. And I just look, I cannot with
• 54:15
  this concept and this nonsense because I'm going to ask her.
• 54:23
  Stupid question. If you break, No, know if
• 54:34
  Christian Coleman I'm a pic. I'm I'll be specific.
• 54:38
  Christian Coleman, broke the world record at Clemson before
• 54:42
  in the 60. Yes, yes.
• 54:45
  So, if that were to happen again now, Track certified ratified
• 54:53
  and you do drug testing, right? If he meets those criteria and
• 54:57
  sets a world record, World Athletics isn't going to list
• 55:01
  them as a mark on their list. No.
• 55:06
  Okay. And for the record last out,
• 55:09
  sick Makai Williams is still racing at the University of
• 55:12
  Oregon. Yeah, I don't know if he's going
• 55:16
  to end the year world number one or not, but I know none of his
• 55:21
  marks going to be on the list. They have the world lists leader
• 55:24
  at 660 and what? Eight collegians ran faster than
• 55:28
  that this weekend. Yes.
• 55:30
  So like I said, you can break a world record, have it ratified
• 55:35
  by World Athletics but not have it be on the list.
• 55:40
  Okay, that makes perfect sense in a sport that struggling for
• 55:45
  fan base. Absolutely, So I have I have had
• 55:53
  to go back to try and find how they are doing this. so, on the
• 56:02
  21st of January, The American track league has a meet at Iowa.
• 56:09
  There you go. And that is on the, it is
• 56:12
  actually on the world Athletics indoor, right?
• 56:19
  And I'm trying to find anything before that and there's nothing
• 56:23
  nothing. It's just that in my think, it's
• 56:25
  just that it arose. That's it.
• 56:28
  So sprinkle some some dust yesu Meats.
• 56:32
  So here's the issue. Okay, there are not enough track
• 56:37
  meets for a professional athlete.
• 56:43
  To go run at weekend week out. There aren't, there aren't
• 56:49
  enough me. Yes, there are in Europe where
• 56:53
  track is supposed to happen. Okay, tell me I'm wrong
• 57:00
  accessible. Let's just say, do you think
• 57:05
  that brother latex cares about accessibility to Americans?
• 57:10
  Well, not at all. And in today's age, what, what
• 57:14
  are we witnessing? What is happening right in front
• 57:17
  of us. We are witnessing the European
• 57:21
  championships being Trump trumping The World
• 57:27
  Championships. We we're witnessing a movement
• 57:31
  and it's almost like it's happening in plain sight.
• 57:34
  And they're just kind of hoping, uh, that.
• 57:35
  Well, you're not gonna know this, this but it is obvious and
• 57:39
  it is clear. Right?
• 57:42
  And you know, back when you were competing Lamar, I mean it was
• 57:47
  pretty you, you kind of got the sense in it, whether he's your
• 57:51
  agent or somebody in the circuit, they would say to you.
• 57:55
  Okay, so yes, good job you did what you did at Nationals but
• 57:59
  they want to see you do that over there, you're right.
• 58:03
  And so you kind of knew that that you had to go prove
• 58:06
  yourself. Well, It was so much easier when
• 58:11
  there were three meats in a week, and you could go over
• 58:16
  there and run six competitions in two to three weeks and come
• 58:19
  back and pay your rent. Take your girl out for a date.
• 58:24
  It was good, right? Is no longer the case.
• 58:28
  It is no longer the case and, and it's, I don't know.
• 58:31
  I don't, there is no way that I see this changing, because I
• 58:37
  think that We are in a situation now where World Athletics is
• 58:44
  100% eurocentric And they couldn't care less.
• 58:48
  Nope. They could not do so fellas.
• 58:51
  Help me. We have to be missing something
• 58:54
  here. There has to be another layer to
• 58:57
  this, because I'm looking at the woman's list earlier, I saw it
• 59:07
  as well. I don't know and can't pronounce
• 59:11
  apparently the world. Number one right now is 723,
• 59:16
  when missed a dash. Now, I know I watch the
• 59:21
  400-meter run, run, 71, and there is a lot of it was faster
• 59:28
  than that. But here's the thing though
• 59:30
  there. But okay, so I'm just picking on
• 59:34
  on two names that I recognize, mmm Ori apparel.
• 59:39
  Who used to be at Georgia? Is now at Kentucky is on the
• 59:43
  world. Athletic list tied at number 9.
• 59:46
  It's set at 7:29 from a meat that was running Louisville in
• 59:50
  December. Yes.
• 59:52
  Yeah. And Commonwealth and Samara
• 59:55
  Killebrew. Is tied, for the same time. 729
• 1:00:01
  used to be at Florida. I forgot where she is now, A and
• 1:00:03
  M and M, at a meat that was run at Tyson in Arkansas, in
• 1:00:09
  Arkansas. Yeah, but there's a whole ton of
• 1:00:12
  other Collegiate marks that are not on ear.
• 1:00:15
  Yeah, it's cool. What am I missing here?
• 1:00:20
  I don't know. I really don't know.
• 1:00:24
  I know that the world. Number one is not 7:23.
• 1:00:27
  I know that is a fact. Hmm.
• 1:00:30
  But I I just this is weird. It's really weird.
• 1:00:35
  It really renew when you start making up the rules as you go
• 1:00:39
  which is what were left Linux has been doing almost since we
• 1:00:43
  started this show, like episode two or three is when we first
• 1:00:47
  started talking about Seb Coe and World Athletics making up
• 1:00:51
  rules, as they go because that's about when they got rid of the
• 1:00:53
  triple jump out of the out of the diamond League.
• 1:00:56
  Mmm, right. So it was, it was early on,
• 1:01:03
  Look, I feel like Simcoe has been given a marching orders to
• 1:01:09
  make track look a certain way. Does that make sense?
• 1:01:15
  Yeah, sure. And I think he is marching along
• 1:01:20
  to the beat of those very specific instructions because At
• 1:01:28
  this point. We have no choice but to accept
• 1:01:34
  the fact that the sport is intentionally Euro centered and
• 1:01:41
  it is intentionally Euro dominated by ways of where you
• 1:01:47
  have to go to poop to perform, yep?
• 1:01:51
  Right. And so what that is done is to
• 1:01:54
  intentionally level the playing field for the European athletes.
• 1:02:00
  If we go all the way, Back to I think episode 2, I started
• 1:02:04
  talking about the whole reason why there was greater drug usage
• 1:02:07
  in Europe was because it was less race mixing and yada yada
• 1:02:10
  yada. Remember this whole
• 1:02:11
  conversation. This is what it is, right?
• 1:02:15
  Like at the end of the day, like we're not getting beat.
• 1:02:19
  This is this goes back to like when the NBA wasn't allowing
• 1:02:23
  black players, hmm. Right.
• 1:02:25
  Not because we're just going to ignore the fact that they can
• 1:02:27
  really play. Y'all can play in the ABA but if
• 1:02:29
  it didn't happen in the NBA at don't count.
• 1:02:33
  Right. Like, that's what, that's what
• 1:02:34
  we're at the Arkansas, Invitational all list.
• 1:02:41
  There you go. Well, so, ok.
• 1:02:44
  So all I know, is that last year in the men's sixty five of the
• 1:02:48
  top ten marks in the world were set by Collegiate sat Collegiate
• 1:02:52
  means. No, he won't tell me that you
• 1:02:54
  kicking them dudes out, and we're going to pretend, it's a
• 1:02:58
  different top 10 that it is because they're not on the list.
• 1:03:02
  How do you get on the list? Well, it's what, what I'm seeing
• 1:03:07
  here. Is that it's pretty clear where
• 1:03:11
  you have to go. Yes, it is pretty specific.
• 1:03:15
  Now that you have to go to certain places.
• 1:03:22
  So if you are someone that that decided that you're just going
• 1:03:26
  to compete in the u.s. you have to go on that list and find the
• 1:03:32
  Arkansas and Regional and you have to get yourself there and
• 1:03:37
  you got to get into that meeting.
• 1:03:38
  I will say yes and we all know you're not getting in milrose
• 1:03:44
  because that field was set exactly at World Championships.
• 1:03:49
  Right. It's interesting.
• 1:03:52
  I chess not Checkers. Yeah. look, the combined events
• 1:04:00
  challenge is I tried to, I tried to bring this to light then
• 1:04:04
  because I said The only reason you would put in a rule where
• 1:04:10
  multiple Championship events can't be used for your world
• 1:04:14
  rankings is because you don't want other area championships to
• 1:04:19
  have anywhere near the clout that European championships.
• 1:04:23
  Yep, that is the only reason you would ever do that because
• 1:04:27
  people in Europe will choose to go to European championships
• 1:04:31
  instead of world championship. Yeah.
• 1:04:33
  Yeah. But if you're from the
• 1:04:35
  Caribbean, you You can't choose to not go to that cack.
• 1:04:39
  Yeah. Your country's funding depends
• 1:04:41
  on it. Yeah, right.
• 1:04:43
  Like look here, let me, let me, let me break this to the rest of
• 1:04:46
  our are following Pan. Am games are in November.
• 1:04:50
  Yes. And chilly.
• 1:04:54
  November. Yes.
• 1:04:56
  In Chile. And guess what?
• 1:04:58
  Year? Boat?
• 1:04:58
  For the Olympics? Yes.
• 1:05:01
  Is it? Let's be clear.
• 1:05:03
  It's in the Olympics. When you coach to Caribbean
• 1:05:10
  athletes. I can bark and say all the
• 1:05:14
  wonderful things that I want to and Coach qu can chime in and
• 1:05:18
  say all the wonderful things that she wants to about how
• 1:05:20
  little sense. It makes you want to know what
• 1:05:22
  there's a 90. Something percent chance that
• 1:05:25
  I'm going to be in frigging chilly in November.
• 1:05:30
  Because their funding comes from the meats.
• 1:05:35
  Yes. But if having gone to World
• 1:05:40
  Championships, here's what I'm telling you.
• 1:05:44
  What they do at nak, ack is irrelevant to World Athletics
• 1:05:50
  because it is a second championship and you can't even
• 1:05:53
  use those marks. Yeah.
• 1:05:58
  So listen they're not even veiled anymore now they don't
• 1:06:04
  care. No track is our Sport and we are
• 1:06:09
  European. That's it.
• 1:06:14
  That's where it is. And and if you don't have an
• 1:06:18
  agent that gets that, you shouldn't do protract.
• 1:06:23
  Don't you should go get a new agent.
• 1:06:25
  So, how many athletes knew that Arkansas Invitational was on the
• 1:06:30
  list? That's what for this.
• 1:06:32
  I'll say this having been there. Last week, there were quite a
• 1:06:36
  few American and I are quoting American athletes because they
• 1:06:40
  were literally labeled as usasa. Yes.
• 1:06:44
  Okay. So it, there was intense, right.
• 1:06:48
  I'll say Ryan krauser. He was in the stands.
• 1:06:52
  All right, Davis and Hunter would all Hunter ran Tara.
• 1:06:55
  Tara was in the stands. They they rabbeted a few of the
• 1:07:00
  distance races. I want to say there was a jumper
• 1:07:06
  too. So, I mean there was presence,
• 1:07:10
  there was presents but I'm not sure if it was a common
• 1:07:13
  knowledge presence if you if you know what I mean.
• 1:07:15
  Right? Right.
• 1:07:16
  Those who knew and those who didn't to all those people are
• 1:07:21
  based in Arkansas right now. Hmm.
• 1:07:24
  For the most part, it was a large conglomerate of Arkansas,
• 1:07:27
  ins. Sure whatever.
• 1:07:30
  But what I'm saying is like it was deliberate and so I'm not
• 1:07:35
  sure like like we're saying you have to do some research.
• 1:07:38
  It's right. And maybe only the certain
• 1:07:40
  people that they wanted to know, knew because there wasn't a big
• 1:07:45
  A big showing of. The athletes of a Nation right
• 1:07:50
  there? Wasn't there was a showing but
• 1:07:52
  there wasn't a huge, you know, whatever.
• 1:07:55
  Enter cell. And I mean I guess if you think
• 1:07:59
  about it, the Louisville meet in December, it's literally called
• 1:08:03
  The Commonwealth invite mmm-hmm Okay, so that makes sense.
• 1:08:12
  Not make sense, but maybe it makes sense.
• 1:08:14
  I don't know, they're making it makes sense.
• 1:08:17
  Yeah, and the more I think we Echo the sentiments and at least
• 1:08:25
  get the viewing public to understand that the rules.
• 1:08:30
  Are changing, they have changed. You have to adapt immediately.
• 1:08:36
  I mean no if ands are about left out, literally left out.
• 1:08:42
  Yeah so well take that one to the coffee table and discuss
• 1:08:48
  with your friends but That was the show is all about, would you
• 1:08:56
  rather? And that's better.
• 1:08:57
  So, mr. Rivera, you are, would you
• 1:09:02
  rather in tonight? I think they adjusted yet ready.
• 1:09:09
  I am not gonna lie to you. I knew that it was my turn and I
• 1:09:14
  have looked forward to this all day.
• 1:09:18
  Okay, all right. Excited.
• 1:09:23
  Now, watch you give me some lame like watch.
• 1:09:26
  I get to fugazi questions now because it's because first world
• 1:09:30
  problems isn't on the show tonight.
• 1:09:33
  All right you ready? Yeah Clyde are you okay let's
• 1:09:37
  check it. Make sure you had slumped over
• 1:09:45
  Yes, ma'am, I am ready. I'm fired.
• 1:09:47
  Would you would you rather? So in opposition of the, of the
• 1:09:51
  theme of the show, would you rather play indoor baseball or
• 1:09:54
  outdoor baseball? Because indoor baseball
• 1:09:56
  something. If you don't know that,
• 1:10:00
  Definitely outdoor baseball card.
• 1:10:03
  Would you rather receive or would you rather take notes via
• 1:10:07
  voice memo or a typed note? Let me say, voice memo.
• 1:10:18
  I'm not the greatest of typer would you will think you knew
• 1:10:23
  that time? Would you have rather when he
• 1:10:27
  competing or compression shorts or running shorts, okay?
• 1:10:33
  And every exists in every event except the 1500 compression
• 1:10:37
  shorts. Oh my God.
• 1:10:41
  I cannot even imagine running around and running shorts and
• 1:10:45
  white running fast. Somebody on this show.
• 1:10:50
  However, I love it. All right, would you rather be
• 1:11:15
  yes but they were all females. Would you rather be hungry or
• 1:11:25
  thirsty? Hmm.
• 1:11:34
  I think I would definitely rather.
• 1:11:40
  Be hungry. Or would you rather sit in a
• 1:11:45
  beanbag chair or a papasan? And it pops on that disk chair
• 1:11:49
  that has little beanbag chair. I've owned both beanbag chair
• 1:11:55
  much better to sit in much more difficult to get out of them.
• 1:12:02
  Both of those things are definitely true.
• 1:12:06
  Would you rather eat bacon or sausage?
• 1:12:11
  Listen, if you find a person that says something other than
• 1:12:14
  bacon, first punch them their life.
• 1:12:18
  They don't eat pork, of course it is.
• 1:12:20
  Of course it would be. This guy could be alternative
• 1:12:25
  meat. Listen, I love them both, let's
• 1:12:27
  be clear, but bacon is a superior product.
• 1:12:32
  All right? Gentlemen, the floor is yours
• 1:12:34
  for. Would you rather?
• 1:12:38
  I would definitely take my maple brown sugar sausage over bacon.
• 1:12:43
  Anything Let's see. What would you rather watch the
• 1:12:59
  Giants win? You can or the Cowboys.
• 1:13:09
  So that's it. It actually would be a great
• 1:13:12
  question except for this Given that scenario, that means that
• 1:13:19
  those two things are linked upon each other.
• 1:13:20
  So, if I watch the Giants win, that means that the Cowboys
• 1:13:24
  would also then win, and I would then get to watch the Cowboys
• 1:13:27
  lose to the Giants when it most mattered.
• 1:13:30
  So, in this particular case, the answer is easy for me I would
• 1:13:34
  definitely rather watch the Giants win.
• 1:13:37
  I am actually bored by watching the Cowboys lose at this point.
• 1:13:40
  It has a way many times in my lifetime, so let's Go back to my
• 1:13:45
  pics because reason why I want the Cowboys and the Giants meet.
• 1:13:51
  There is a reason I bet there is so.
• 1:13:58
  Anyway, Lamar yes, brother. Play Kobe to, to a game of
• 1:14:11
  one-on-one, 25, or Michael Jordan.
• 1:14:16
  Okay, I'm assuming the Coby still alive.
• 1:14:19
  Yes. Of course, I'm just checking.
• 1:14:22
  I didn't know if I had to die to play this.
• 1:14:23
  No, no. Okay, so, play Kobe.
• 1:14:29
  Do a game 25 or play MJ to a game to find NJ?
• 1:14:36
  Oh my god. Well let's be clear.
• 1:14:41
  The outcome is going to be the same so I would rather be able
• 1:14:46
  to tell people that I played MJ, okay?
• 1:14:49
  Then I played Kobe Kobe's, if both would be amazing.
• 1:14:54
  I'm by the way, I'm scoring. At least one bucket.
• 1:14:59
  All Coby going to do is the same again.
• 1:15:07
  I'm a squirrel, one bucket. I mean, Jordan will just jab
• 1:15:10
  step you to death and just the outcome is going to be the same.
• 1:15:21
  Just how Became going to go. Amelia well, awesome, wrapping
• 1:15:28
  it up, as always, we will give some Harpy props out to those,
• 1:15:32
  in the audience in the either for them to maybe here.
• 1:15:34
  Maybe not here, as we lift them up and praise them.
• 1:15:42
  I'm going to start my heartbeat props, go to my grandmother, 96
• 1:15:49
  years old she passed away earlier this week and yeah
• 1:15:58
  that's that's it. She's She's going to be missed.
• 1:16:09
  Thank you, 100%. I'm going to lighten the mood a
• 1:16:14
  little. So I think somebody on this
• 1:16:20
  panel is going to start laughing and just a moment.
• 1:16:23
  So my mother Has raised a pretty good athlete and has
• 1:16:31
  grandchildren or pretty darn good.
• 1:16:33
  Athletes but my mother's not into sports at all.
• 1:16:42
  When she asked you what she like needed to, she even asked me
• 1:16:44
  what she needed to do. Exercise wise for.
• 1:16:46
  I don't know. Almost two decades.
• 1:16:49
  So finally we have Struck an accord and I said you need to
• 1:16:56
  walk. I don't care how how you do it,
• 1:16:59
  but you need to walk, right? And she's like, I can't walk
• 1:17:03
  that far as like listen you trying to eat the elephant all
• 1:17:07
  at once, just eat it one forkful at a time.
• 1:17:11
  So I said this, at the time, I didn't know what stroke of
• 1:17:15
  Genius Walk a mile but just walk to you tired and then rest the
• 1:17:24
  same amount and then do it that way, right?
• 1:17:28
  So I was like, here, walk a lap, Then rest it sit down the number
• 1:17:36
  of the amount of time. It takes you to walk that lap
• 1:17:38
  and do it that way, right? As like and hopefully one day
• 1:17:42
  you'll be able to get to a mile right now.
• 1:17:45
  We all know that like her heart rates are going to be high
• 1:17:47
  enough from that, one mile to do anything, but it's the right
• 1:17:50
  steps in the right area, right? A week ago, like the day after
• 1:17:56
  we recorded, I get a text message from my mother, that
• 1:18:01
  says, and I quote, there's a new miler in town, that's so true.
• 1:18:12
  And so now she has taken to referring to herself as the
• 1:18:19
  Miler the miler. Wow.
• 1:18:31
  So that means chose violence for sure right there.
• 1:18:37
  So long story short, my mom has now walked three miles in a week
• 1:18:49
  and I just I find the greatest amount of joy that she is so
• 1:18:53
  proud of herself. But I have to be proud of her
• 1:18:56
  because today she sent me a text message and said and I quote the
• 1:19:00
  Miler has struck again like she's some sort of wet Bandit or
• 1:19:07
  whatever. You know what listen I've been
• 1:19:10
  asking for her to exercise. He's doing so, yeah.
• 1:19:14
  So my heartbeat props. Go out to the Miler.
• 1:19:18
  No, Miler, that's cute. That's hilarious.
• 1:19:28
  Especially if you know, my mom, Oh man.
• 1:19:38
  I guess my heartbeat perhaps this week honestly, go out to my
• 1:19:44
  Administration here at San Jose State, Jeff calling you IAD and
• 1:19:49
  Kristen Kelly our director of compliance and mocks Port
• 1:19:52
  supervisor. Like I said, we are in
• 1:19:56
  Annapolis, Maryland and we're going to be competing at the
• 1:20:00
  u.s. Naval Academy this weekend.
• 1:20:02
  But the larger more important point of this trip is that we're
• 1:20:05
  taking the entire Team to be African-American history,
• 1:20:10
  history, and culture museum in Washington, DC on Sunday, and
• 1:20:14
  stuff like that is is dope and it really can't happen without
• 1:20:18
  the backing of your Administration.
• 1:20:20
  Not only did they allow us to do it but they are actually here
• 1:20:23
  with us on the trip and that's almost like yeah.
• 1:20:28
  This and anybody in the track world knows that a nadie showing
• 1:20:33
  up for a regular season out of state track.
• 1:20:36
  Meat is a rare to no occasion, so, yeah.
• 1:20:40
  Yes, your support very much and hopefully, you know, we'll put
• 1:20:45
  on a good show out here on the east coast and, you know, it was
• 1:20:49
  a long travel day. Thanks, Southwest, but we are
• 1:20:54
  lying. There is what we made it.
• 1:20:57
  And, you know, we're here a little bit early.
• 1:20:59
  So we gotta look some time to get our bearings together before
• 1:21:04
  the competition. But no, I really Do appreciate
• 1:21:07
  their support and it means a ton to me my staff and to our team.
• 1:21:15
  And like I said we are not a first world problems type of
• 1:21:19
  University. So you know moments like this
• 1:21:22
  and opportunities like this, go a long way and I appreciate it.
• 1:21:27
  That sounds awesome. Last rep, you brought the night,
• 1:21:32
  go to a former athlete who was just named the head coach of the
• 1:21:37
  football team of which he went to school with.
• 1:21:39
  He's an alumni at the high school.
• 1:21:41
  I'm sorry. So virtual heart was just named
• 1:21:44
  the you had Varsity Highschool football coach at Hayward High,
• 1:21:49
  super excited because it's come full circle and he's wanted to
• 1:21:51
  coach since he got out of high school even out of college.
• 1:21:54
  So super fun. Super excited for that.
• 1:21:57
  And Welcome to the world sir how you can live the high life with
• 1:22:02
  us? You can eat it all with that
• 1:22:05
  thing. No I've already heard some fun
• 1:22:08
  stories and and I'm just laughing and giggling and
• 1:22:12
  remembering what he put us through.
• 1:22:13
  So all good times. So with that being said, those
• 1:22:17
  who are traveling this weekend, travel safe.
• 1:22:20
  Those like Clyde in his team. I'm glad you got there.
• 1:22:23
  Safe, get home safe. Enjoy the time and other than
• 1:22:26
  that. We'll see each other next.
• 1:22:28
  Next week. Bye everyone.
• 1:22:28
  Next week. Bye everyone.