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Chuck & Buck 1-7 Hour 3: Matt Hasselbeck talks NFL playoffs and is fandom really changing in CFB? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: What good Wednesday morning to you.
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Speaker 2: It's Chuck Abuck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 2: The usual suspects are here, Ashley Ryan is here. Former
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Speaker 2: Mariner Bucky Jacobs said, my name is Chuck Powells. We
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Speaker 2: try to entertain you for four hours every morning right
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Speaker 2: here on Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
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Speaker 2: A lot to discuss today, including the Seahawks playoff, immediate future,
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Speaker 2: and man, do we have a treat for you. He's
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Speaker 2: going to be joining us every Wednesday throughout the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: For some of you, he's your Seahawk quarterback out there.
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Speaker 2: He's certainly Mike Holmgren's favorite quarterback of all time. Joining
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Speaker 2: us now on the program is Matt Hasselbeck here on
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Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 3: How are you, Matt, Hey, Good morning? Shape that intro.
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Speaker 4: But I feel like Mike congran has a Joe Montana
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Speaker 4: like I worked with like like favorite thing, Like when
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Speaker 4: I worked with Steve Young for a long time, I
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Speaker 4: played with Brett Favre and both those guys would tell
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Speaker 4: you like you feel like when you get coached by
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Speaker 4: Mike congrean like there's never gonna be a time when
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Speaker 4: you could live up to Joe, you know, like Brett
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Speaker 4: Farr pre NFL MVPs, Steve Young, Hall of Famer, but
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Speaker 4: like it's a well, Joe would do it this way.
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Speaker 3: Hey, you know when we call this play, you know
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Speaker 3: Joe Montana would do it this way. So when Jim
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Speaker 3: Zorn and I would try.
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Speaker 4: To put in a new play, we would name it
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Speaker 4: Montana or Joe because we knew like Mike would probably
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Speaker 4: like the play.
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Speaker 1: Just because that does explain good.
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Speaker 2: That does explain on Monday mornings when he comes in
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Speaker 2: here with his I Love Joe Montana t shirt on every.
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Speaker 4: I would believe it. I really would, and I can't
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Speaker 4: blame him. I mean they had a run together, so
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Speaker 4: pretty cool.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have you with us.
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Speaker 2: So we're excited to have you for the next few
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Speaker 2: wednesdays throughout this Sea Hawk playoff. And I know a
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Speaker 2: lot of our listeners are as well. By the way,
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Speaker 2: just to just to mention, like I think Bucky when
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Speaker 2: he was a media darling as a baseball player, the
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Speaker 2: Paul Bunyan of the Mariners was happening while you were
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Speaker 2: the Sea all quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Did you get.
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Speaker 2: Swept up in the Bucky Jacobson phenomenon that was hitting
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Speaker 2: home runs out there at at the ball at the
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Speaker 2: ball field.
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Speaker 4: You know, we weren't good when I first got to Seattle,
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Speaker 4: and the Mariners were so good that it made it
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Speaker 4: even harder for us to like not have our games
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Speaker 4: blacked out and all that stuff. And and you know,
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Speaker 4: there was quite a.
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Speaker 3: Quite a run there.
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Speaker 4: I mean there was like records being set across the street.
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Speaker 4: And then we were just like trying, you know, trying
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Speaker 4: to build something. My first year we actually had Husky Stadium,
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Speaker 4: and so it was you know, even U Doub was
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Speaker 4: really good at that point, and and again we weren't.
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Speaker 3: So I think the Sonics were a thing still.
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Speaker 4: I mean it's like almost like a different lifetime ago now,
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Speaker 4: but really cool. The camaraderie in the brotherhood and you know,
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Speaker 4: like brother and sisterhood. I think in the city now
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Speaker 4: with the sports and the athletes, it's pretty neat.
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Speaker 5: Well, Matt, just for what it's worth, they were really
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Speaker 5: good before I got there. I was part of when
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Speaker 5: they turned south and then basically all the attention went
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Speaker 5: to you guys, and then you guys went to the
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Speaker 5: super Bowl, and basically it hasn't turned back.
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Speaker 3: You guys, let all the good players go. I mean,
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Speaker 3: that's kind of what happens.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then you had to fill Then
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Speaker 2: I had to fill it, right exactly, Matt Hasselbeck with us,
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Speaker 2: all right, well, let's talk some Seahawks football. I want
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Speaker 2: to start with this. I just want to come right
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Speaker 2: out of the gates with it. When I say Sam
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Speaker 2: Darnold led the National Football League this year in turnovers
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Speaker 2: on a fourteen and three football team that has a
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Speaker 2: one seed heading into the playoffs, what is Matt Hasselbeck's
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Speaker 2: reaction to that.
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Speaker 4: It's not great, But at the same time, it's turnover ratio,
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Speaker 4: you know, like so it's offense and defense together and
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Speaker 4: so like, I think turnover ratio is the stat that's
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Speaker 4: most important for the season for the team. And then
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Speaker 4: the other thing I would say is, like I remember
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Speaker 4: one of our big rivals was the greatest show on turf,
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Speaker 4: the Kurt Warner Saint Louis Rams like that era, and
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Speaker 4: Kurt Warner was turning the ball over a ton two
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Speaker 4: at that time, fumbles, interceptions. The different the thing was
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Speaker 4: he was also cutting it loose and just kind of
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Speaker 4: dominating offensively, And I think you've seen some of that
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Speaker 4: out of Sam Darnold and the Seahawks JSNS the number
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Speaker 4: one receiver in the league, and you know, I think
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Speaker 4: Sam's just kind of been clutch, you know, even this
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Speaker 4: last game, you know, no turnovers, So I think he's
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Speaker 4: getting better. And also like just some huge third down
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Speaker 4: conversions a third and two with third and ten to
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Speaker 4: guys like Cooper Cup AJ Barner. So like I don't
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Speaker 4: have that much concern for because of like the wholeness
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Speaker 4: of it. But clearly, I mean, obviously that's that's something
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Speaker 4: that you want to try to manage.
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Speaker 5: The turnover thing, well, obviously you're not wanting to turn
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Speaker 5: the ball over. And yet I mean you can explain
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Speaker 5: better than but Chuck or I or Ashley could for
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Speaker 5: sure how difficult it is is it to walk that
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Speaker 5: thin line of I want to push the ball down
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Speaker 5: the field. We've seen this team they like to hand
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Speaker 5: the ball off and try to establish her and make
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Speaker 5: you respect the run to some degree, and then taking
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Speaker 5: shots and using the passing game off of that. It
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Speaker 5: makes sense, and it's worked to the point of getting
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Speaker 5: the first round by and being the number one seed
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Speaker 5: in the NFC. But the idea of Okay, you don't
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Speaker 5: want to hamstring your guy, you don't want to clip
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Speaker 5: his wings, but hey, no more turnovers because then maybe
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Speaker 5: he's not trying to fit it in some of those
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Speaker 5: mailboxes that turn into touchdowns and points down the field.
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Speaker 5: So how hard is it as a quarterback to not
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Speaker 5: get scared of the turnover because of what you maybe
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Speaker 5: hear from the outside world. And yet at the same time, yeah,
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Speaker 5: you're trying to clean that part of the game up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: At the end of my Seahawks career, I was thirty
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Speaker 4: five years old, Pete Carroll came in as the head coach.
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Speaker 4: His whole thing was all about the ball, no turnovers,
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Speaker 4: and that was his whole thing to me, Just don't
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Speaker 4: turn it over.
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Speaker 3: Just don't turn it over.
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Speaker 4: I turned the ball over more than I had ever
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Speaker 4: turned it over in my life because you know, kind
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Speaker 4: of like that. You know, if you're on the golf course,
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Speaker 4: you're on the putting green, hey, don't leave your put
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Speaker 4: short like now, I don't know why, like people leave
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Speaker 4: their puts short, you know, like, and so I was
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Speaker 4: playing kind of defensive, like not to screw it up.
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Speaker 4: I you know, my quarterback coach at the time ironically
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Speaker 4: was Jed Fish, who's at you dub now? And he said,
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Speaker 4: you know you're playing quarterback, not to turn the ball over.
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Speaker 4: It reminds me of a teenager at Driver's ed, you know,
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Speaker 4: ten and two, afraid to screw up on the road,
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Speaker 4: versus how I.
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Speaker 3: See you drive.
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Speaker 4: You drive like a like a kid from Boston who's
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Speaker 4: got like one hand on the wheel. Cutting it loose, aggressive,
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Speaker 4: you know, it's almost the safer way to drive. It's
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Speaker 4: the safer way to play quarterback. Every throw, throw it
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Speaker 4: with conviction or don't throw it. And and so I
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Speaker 4: think there's like a mindset flip where on offense as
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Speaker 4: a quarterback you have to still be aggressive, you have
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Speaker 4: to cut it loose with full confidence and have no fear.
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Speaker 4: And yet at the same time you have to respect
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Speaker 4: the team enough to feel like this ball doesn't belong
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Speaker 4: with to me, like I get to I'm entrusted with it,
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Speaker 4: but it's not mine. It belongs to all of us.
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Speaker 4: And if I don't have something great there, if I
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Speaker 4: don't want to cut it loose, I don't feel good
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Speaker 4: about it, then let our punter punt, let our defense
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Speaker 4: have a long field like that's the mindset of like
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Speaker 4: how to be a great teammate. Let our punter punt
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Speaker 4: was something that was on the board for most of
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Speaker 4: my career, and it wasn't there that year with Pete Carroll.
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Speaker 4: It was it's all about the ball, don't turn it over.
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Speaker 4: And I think that let our punter punt or let
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Speaker 4: our field goal kicker kick. You know, that's a little
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Speaker 4: bit more of an aggressive mindset that I don't think
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Speaker 4: puts the training wheels on, and I think that's a
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Speaker 4: better way to think about it.
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Speaker 2: Former Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck is with us here his
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Speaker 2: first installment.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have him every Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: We're really excited about it throughout the Seahawks playoffs, and
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Speaker 2: this is our first conversation with number eight right here
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Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck in the mornings. So just to
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Speaker 2: I mean, there are other things to discuss with this
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Speaker 2: football team, but keeping that entire roster in mind, how
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Speaker 2: great they play defense, the clear cut wide receiver won
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Speaker 2: that every NFL team wants, a heck of a coaching staff.
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Speaker 2: All of that coming together, Sam seems to be the
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Speaker 2: question mark when you think of the entire roster Matt
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Speaker 2: Does Sam Darnold, in your opinion, get in the way
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Speaker 2: of this team winning a Super Bowl this year.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so at all.
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Speaker 4: And I think he's you know, he's got that reputation
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Speaker 4: nationally where people doubt him still, But no, I think
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Speaker 4: his his body of work. If you look at last
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Speaker 4: year and this year and you sort of forget maybe
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Speaker 4: his rookie year in New York, and you just look
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Speaker 4: at the like when we studied film when I was playing,
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Speaker 4: it was always nameless faces, you know, so it would
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Speaker 4: be like number fourteen for Seattle.
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Speaker 3: We're not putting a name with Fitz, so you don't
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Speaker 3: get it clouded.
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Speaker 4: You know, like a lot of times when I'd be
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Speaker 4: going up against the defensive back in my career late
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Speaker 4: in their career, you know, Like I'll use Champ Bailey
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Speaker 4: as an example. Champ Bailley is one of the best
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Speaker 4: dbs I ever went against. But when I was playing
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Speaker 4: with Andrew Luck in the Indianapolis Colts, we were playing
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Speaker 4: them in the playoffs. Our whole game plan was to
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Speaker 4: double move twenty four. We're going at twenty four. You know,
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Speaker 4: he can't run with t Y Hilton. He can't run
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Speaker 4: with he can't, you know, double move with Reggie Wayne.
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Speaker 4: Like that was the mindset that we had, and that
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Speaker 4: was the game plan going into that playoff game. But
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Speaker 4: we would never have said that, like, oh, we're going
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Speaker 4: to attack Champ Bailey Hall of Famer, Like it just
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Speaker 4: it feels weird. In a similar way, I think people
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Speaker 4: do that, you know, to Sam Donald, be like, oh,
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Speaker 4: Sam Donald, you know he's not you know, the big names.
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Speaker 4: We know he's not Lamar. You know, like he played
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Speaker 4: better football than Lamar this year. He played better football
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Speaker 4: than Patrick Mahomes, you know, So you know, I think
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Speaker 4: that's part of it. And I think like even this
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Speaker 4: last game, he didn't throw for two hundred yards, but
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Speaker 4: he also didn't turn the ball over. He put the
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Speaker 4: team in a position to win. He leaned on the defense,
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Speaker 4: and like I said earlier, he was incredibly efficient on
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Speaker 4: the third downs when those opportunities were needed at the
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Speaker 4: end of the game.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot we end up
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Speaker 5: talking this time of year about teams getting hot at
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Speaker 5: the right time. Are you feeling like the Seahawks are
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Speaker 5: getting hot at the right time all around, not just offensively,
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Speaker 5: but just as a squad. And how much truth is
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Speaker 5: there in that when you get to this point in
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Speaker 5: the season feeling like you're playing your best football.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't think this is I don't think
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Speaker 4: they're hot right now. I think the defense is hot.
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Speaker 4: Like that was a dom that was maybe the most
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Speaker 4: dominant performance I saw any team all year. What they
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Speaker 4: did to the Niners a hot you know, a really
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Speaker 4: hot Niners offense. Really that the defense was hot. But
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Speaker 4: I still have confidence in special teams. I think they
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Speaker 4: they'll they'll have you know, the season that they had
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Speaker 4: was a good season. This last game wasn't their best
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Speaker 4: game offensively. You know, there were some things to clean
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Speaker 4: up offensively. I think the team that's hottest in the
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Speaker 4: NFL right now is Jacksonville. But the Seahawks. What they
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Speaker 4: have going for them is they have a buye which
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Speaker 4: is incredibly I can't tell you how important that is,
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Speaker 4: especially for the trenches. And I think as this team goes,
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Speaker 4: it'll be the you know, I think the engine of
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Speaker 4: this team is that front. Four guys like Leonard Williams,
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Speaker 4: Guys like Byron Murphy, guys like DeMarcus Lawrence. Like that's
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Speaker 4: the you know, we need those guys healthy, and then
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Speaker 4: we need the guys up front, the Gray's Abels, the
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Speaker 4: Charles Crosses, the Sundal, those guys to be healthy upfront.
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Speaker 4: If we can win in the trenches, the skill guys
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Speaker 4: and the back end defensively, and then Sam and the
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Speaker 4: rest of those guys, the committee at running back, we're
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Speaker 4: good to go.
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Speaker 3: Like we can get hot.
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Speaker 4: I believe in the coaching staff this, I mean, this
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Speaker 4: really could be their year, which is which is incredibly exciting.
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Speaker 3: And and and you get to sit home and figure
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Speaker 3: out who you play next.
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Speaker 1: If you're wondering.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the voice of Matt Hasselbeck joining us right
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Speaker 2: here this morning on Chuck and Buck in the morning.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna use him as our Seahawks playoff analyst to hear,
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Speaker 2: and we're very excited about that fact here starting today
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Speaker 2: our eight o'clock hour. When you see Mike McDonald's defense,
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Speaker 2: and I'm sure that you still even though your a
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Speaker 2: few your ears removed, you still think about, how would
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Speaker 2: I go up against that? I mean, what would you
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Speaker 2: compare it to? Is it incomparable? What? What does Mike
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Speaker 2: McDonald's defense stand? What stands out about it to you?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think the thing that this defense does best
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Speaker 4: is they're able to get a pass rush with four.
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Speaker 4: And you know, that's why all these people spend so
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Speaker 4: much money.
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Speaker 3: On the front four.
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Speaker 4: It makes everybody in the back, the back seven better
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Speaker 4: and so the front four does such a great job
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Speaker 4: in pass rush and stopping the run and helping the
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Speaker 4: guys behind them in the run, and so like that's
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Speaker 4: that's the best thing that they do. However, you know,
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Speaker 4: I think Mike McDonald's kind of the Sean McVay of defense.
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Speaker 4: He's very creative, he's got great blitz schemes. He doesn't
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Speaker 4: try to get too cute with it, but he's also
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Speaker 4: like he's got Nicki min Warre who can do it all?
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Speaker 4: Can they be like a safety, a cover guy, a linebacker.
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Speaker 4: And he's like, hey, let's try this, let's try that.
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Speaker 4: And so I think the dbs on the back end
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Speaker 4: are good blitzers as well. So you know, I think
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Speaker 4: that's probably the thing that excites me the most. And
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Speaker 4: in my career, the thing that was hardest for me
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Speaker 4: as a quarterback by far is if you're just rushing
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Speaker 4: four and I have to leave in extra people to
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Speaker 4: help my five offensive linemen that's like no braino, not good,
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Speaker 4: Like that's that's not the world we want to be
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Speaker 4: living in. And that's that's what I think the Seahawks
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Speaker 4: really have going for him right now.
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Speaker 1: Matt.
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Speaker 5: Is there a thing that you see when you're watching
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Speaker 5: this defense that's complicated when you start saying, you know,
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Speaker 5: he's the Sean McVay of defense, Well, Sean McVay was
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Speaker 5: doing some things that were different than back when you played,
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Speaker 5: and it just kind of very creative in some of
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Speaker 5: the ways in which you did. We have Hugh Millen
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Speaker 5: on former quarterback, I'm sure you know who he is.
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Speaker 5: He we have him on all season long U and
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Speaker 5: he was talking about some of the complexities of the
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Speaker 5: defense where the pre snap read that you would get
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Speaker 5: as a quarterback changes right after you snap the ball,
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Speaker 5: and yet at times how complicated is this guy goes
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Speaker 5: all the way over here, this guy goes and he's
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Speaker 5: covering this guy that there's avenues that are end up
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Speaker 5: being open while they're moving into those different spots. Do
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Speaker 5: you see where there could be a kryptonite to this
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Speaker 5: this you know, very complicated or creative defense that we're
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Speaker 5: watching him master right now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Number one.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's not complicated and they just do it really well,
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Speaker 4: you know, and like there's a saying that some defenses
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Speaker 4: have and it's a do less better, you know, like
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Speaker 4: we just we'll just do it better, you know, you
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Speaker 4: know what we're going to be in, Like, yeah, we're
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Speaker 4: just we've had more talent. I think the Legion of
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Speaker 4: Boom was that way. It wasn't like a confusing thing.
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Speaker 4: It just they had great length on the outside and size.
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Speaker 4: They had great speed at free safety with Earl Thomas,
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Speaker 4: and they had just you know, Cam Chancellor was kind
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Speaker 4: of the nick even worri He was like, I don't
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Speaker 4: even know the unicorns.
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Speaker 3: No one else like him. Yeah, you know, so there's
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Speaker 3: some of that.
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Speaker 4: No, I think there's not really a glaring weak on
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Speaker 4: this defense. I think there is probably one corner that
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Speaker 4: gets tried a little harder than other other guys, you know,
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Speaker 4: and it's not spoon, you know, not to throw shade
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Speaker 4: at anybody, but like that's just what happens when you
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Speaker 4: play opposite of a Pro Bowl corner.
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Speaker 3: So there's gonna be some of that.
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Speaker 4: But you know, I think I think globally, what's hard
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Speaker 4: for an offensive coordinator going against the Seahawks. Is that
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Speaker 4: you know, people will say, oh, it's nickel, you know,
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Speaker 4: it's nickel.
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Speaker 3: Defense or dime defense. Well, like, who you know?
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Speaker 4: Nickel defense means there's five dbs nickel five DB's in
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Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, but which five you know? And like
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Speaker 4: that's the thing that changes. Is it big nickel?
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Speaker 3: Is it small?
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Speaker 1: Nickel? Is it?
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Speaker 4: Is it like the variations of the amount of guys
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Speaker 4: that play. It's not just eleven guys, And so when
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Speaker 4: you're doing your analytics or your game plan, it's a
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Speaker 4: little there's like a layer to it that the Seahawks
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Speaker 4: have that that that other defenses don't have.
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Speaker 3: It's it's a little more complicated.
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Speaker 2: Former Seahawks quarterback Matt hasselback with us here on Chuck
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Speaker 2: and Buck. Did you need a running game in order
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Speaker 2: to be successful? I mean, this team has run the
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Speaker 2: ball a lot, but they haven't always been effective running
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Speaker 2: the ball. They're coming off their most effective performance running
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Speaker 2: the football. Do you believe they need that to be
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Speaker 2: effective in the postseason in order to be ultimately successful?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, Mike Congreen would talk about sometimes some years he's like, hey,
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Speaker 4: I want to use the pass to set up the run,
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Speaker 4: you know, and a lot of times when you listen
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Speaker 4: to TV commentators, they say, oh, you need to run
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Speaker 4: the run the ball, and then the box gets light
16:27
Speaker 4: and then you know all this and like, I think
16:30
Speaker 4: it's both. You know, you got to be able to
16:32
Speaker 4: run it when they know you're gonna run it. And
16:34
Speaker 4: I think that's one thing that the Seahawks have done.
16:36
Speaker 4: When it's game on the line, five minutes to go
16:38
Speaker 4: in the game, we need to close out the game
16:41
Speaker 4: and run the football. We have a couple of plays
16:43
Speaker 4: that are bread and butter plays full back in the game,
16:46
Speaker 4: in the game and we can we're going to run
16:48
Speaker 4: this play. But no, I think that's an area that's
16:50
Speaker 4: been a work in progress this year. But you've also
16:53
Speaker 4: seen the Seahawks be incredibly successful at running the ball
16:57
Speaker 4: in spread out formation. So like third seventeen last week,
17:01
Speaker 4: third and fifteen another game, I think the Seahawks have.
17:04
Speaker 3: Four third and fifteen run plays that ended up his
17:07
Speaker 3: first downs.
17:08
Speaker 4: And to me, that that just comes back to not
17:11
Speaker 4: offensive line, that comes back to wide receivers blocking in
17:15
Speaker 4: the running game.
17:16
Speaker 3: And we have these like kind of fast Rashid Shaheed.
17:20
Speaker 4: JSN types and so like does that always that doesn't
17:24
Speaker 4: scream to me, like Joe jar ravishis blocking on the edge.
17:27
Speaker 3: It just doesn't.
17:28
Speaker 4: But you do also have guys like Bobo, you had
17:31
Speaker 4: Derek Young for a while, Cooper Cup does a great
17:33
Speaker 4: job blocking. And to the credit of those speedsters Shaheed
17:37
Speaker 4: and Jsny, they put their nose in there a little
17:40
Speaker 4: bit in blockdown field. So I think that, you know,
17:43
Speaker 4: it's a team effort there, and you know, would you
17:47
Speaker 4: love to be able to just like, you know, run it,
17:48
Speaker 4: run it, run it, run it. Sure, but I think
17:50
Speaker 4: they do such a good job with the play action
17:52
Speaker 4: that I think some of those play action plays for
17:54
Speaker 4: the lineman can feel like a run.
17:57
Speaker 1: Matt.
17:57
Speaker 5: What's the one team that if you're a Seahawks fan
18:01
Speaker 5: you wouldn't want to see in the divisional round?
18:05
Speaker 3: It's the Rams. I don't want to see him ever.
18:07
Speaker 4: You know, like the super Bowl in theory is the
18:08
Speaker 4: best team from the NFC versus the best team from
18:10
Speaker 4: the AFC, and those are the two best teams in football,
18:13
Speaker 4: and like that's the super Bowl, But like I say,
18:15
Speaker 4: garbage to that. The two best teams in football this
18:18
Speaker 4: year are the La Rams and the Seattle Seahawks, and
18:21
Speaker 4: they'll play each other maybe for a third time this year.
18:24
Speaker 3: So like, to me, that's the that's the team.
18:27
Speaker 4: You know, no disrespect to the Broncos or the Jaguars, or.
18:31
Speaker 3: The Bills or the Patriots.
18:33
Speaker 4: They're like, I'm sorry that this NFC West was a
18:36
Speaker 4: strong division this year.
18:37
Speaker 3: In the Rams probably have the MVP a quarterback.
18:40
Speaker 4: And you know, some people would say have the best
18:42
Speaker 4: team in football even though we're the one seed. So
18:45
Speaker 4: and that was a crazy matchup in the last one.
18:47
Speaker 4: So to me, that's the toughest game. That's the toughest team,
18:50
Speaker 4: and you're gonna probably have to beat them, you know,
18:53
Speaker 4: meet them and beat them one more time if you
18:55
Speaker 4: want to accomplish your goals.
18:56
Speaker 2: In Hoystel Lombardi, I'm sure there are a lot of
18:59
Speaker 2: former football play there's a lot of cities that claim
19:02
Speaker 2: that our home field advantage is unlike anyone else's home
19:06
Speaker 2: field advantage.
19:07
Speaker 1: You lived the.
19:08
Speaker 2: Famous home field advantage of being a Seattle Seahawk.
19:11
Speaker 1: What does it mean to have it through the whole playoffs?
19:15
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's biggest to the defense and to the
19:17
Speaker 4: pass rushers in particular, the guys on the edge because
19:21
Speaker 4: the further you are away from the ball as an
19:23
Speaker 4: offensive lineman, a tight end, a tackle like that, that
19:27
Speaker 4: kind of spot you have to see in your peripheral
19:29
Speaker 4: vision and wo sue or.
19:32
Speaker 1: Oh we had a freeze, We had a first freeze.
19:34
Speaker 1: Oh he was really he was really rolling too. Hm.
19:37
Speaker 2: I don't know if you detected it, but I thought
19:39
Speaker 2: he was really on a roll there.
19:40
Speaker 1: He was getting ready to rock and roll for us. Oh,
19:43
Speaker 1: there he is, he's pros.
19:45
Speaker 2: All right. I think we got a back. We lost
19:46
Speaker 2: it for a little bit. You were talking about how
19:49
Speaker 2: the home field advantage. You said it was difficult the
19:52
Speaker 2: further you get away from the ball. That's where I
19:54
Speaker 2: think we lost you.
19:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry about that. We got a snowstorm here in Boston.
19:59
Speaker 4: But it's basically the peripheral vision for those tackles. They
20:02
Speaker 4: have to see the silent count of the center and
20:04
Speaker 4: also see the defensive end who's lined up three yards
20:07
Speaker 4: outside of me, or a nickel coming off the slot.
20:09
Speaker 3: It's very, very difficult.
20:11
Speaker 4: So that crowd noise, when intentional like they've had in
20:14
Speaker 4: Seattle for a long time, is an incredible home field advantage.
20:17
Speaker 4: It psikes out quarterbacks it psikes out lineman and it
20:20
Speaker 4: psikes out offensive coordinators.
20:22
Speaker 2: All right, well, we're very excited to have you here
20:25
Speaker 2: for the next few weeks, all the way hopefully all
20:27
Speaker 2: the way through the Super Bowl. So we were very
20:30
Speaker 2: pumped to find out that we were able to put
20:32
Speaker 2: this together. And I could wait a couple of weeks
20:35
Speaker 2: till we get to know each other better. But I
20:37
Speaker 2: can't wait to ask you when you said we want
20:39
Speaker 2: the ball and we're gonna score. What did our friend
20:42
Speaker 2: Mike Holmgren say to you when you came off the field.
20:45
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell if he was mad at me or
20:46
Speaker 3: proud of me.
20:47
Speaker 4: You know, it was like somewhere but a true story
20:50
Speaker 4: that when that happened, no one really knew on the field,
20:54
Speaker 4: like you could kind of hear if I'd have gotten
20:56
Speaker 4: picked up in the stadium sort of like it was
20:59
Speaker 4: like murmuring as they came back and I came back
21:01
Speaker 4: to the sideline and he said something like what did
21:03
Speaker 4: you just do?
21:04
Speaker 3: You know? It was like did something just happen out there?
21:06
Speaker 4: Like because he's got the headset on and it was
21:08
Speaker 4: freezing cold, and I was like, you know, like what
21:11
Speaker 4: you know, like there's no way he'll ever find out
21:13
Speaker 4: what I just did. You know, and clearly everyone at
21:16
Speaker 4: home new, but I'm in the moment and then you know,
21:20
Speaker 4: side note on that, don't regret it at all, like
21:22
Speaker 4: would do it again, just would probably change the change
21:25
Speaker 4: the route or the decision or the throw or whatever
21:29
Speaker 4: you know with Al Harris. But credit to Al Harris.
21:32
Speaker 4: He's the DB's coach in Chicago right now. His DB's
21:35
Speaker 4: are still jumping routes. That hasn't changed. Everywhere he goes,
21:38
Speaker 4: they jump routes. So if you're playing the Bears in
21:42
Speaker 4: the playoffs this year, double move Al Harris's corners. That's
21:47
Speaker 4: that's take it from me, you know. And Aaron Rodgers,
21:51
Speaker 4: you know, he saw he believes in that too. He
21:53
Speaker 4: had a big one. But I'm looking forward to the playoffs.
21:55
Speaker 4: I'm excited the Seahawks are in it. I'm excited to
21:57
Speaker 4: join you guys hopefully for a bunch of windas as
22:00
Speaker 4: these guys keep it rolling.
22:01
Speaker 3: The one seed is so huge. I'm so proud and.
22:04
Speaker 4: A lot of the guys that played for the Seahawks,
22:06
Speaker 4: like me, we have a tremendous amount of pride in
22:08
Speaker 4: this team, this organization, and we're really happy for the players.
22:11
Speaker 2: Awesome, thanks man, We appreciate it and very excited to
22:14
Speaker 2: have you on board.
22:15
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next Wednesday. Sounds great.
22:17
Speaker 2: A guys areas former Sea Hawk quarterback Matt Hasselback joining
22:21
Speaker 2: us right here on Chuck and Buck, and as we mentioned,
22:25
Speaker 2: as he mentioned he's going to be joining us throughout
22:27
Speaker 2: the postseason.
22:28
Speaker 1: Eight of eight.
22:29
Speaker 2: We could call it eight to eight throughout the postseason
22:31
Speaker 2: on Wednesdays.
22:32
Speaker 1: I like it. I love you too, great stuff.
22:34
Speaker 5: I do too, and we love having Hugh on and
22:37
Speaker 5: it's just always nice. I think we have as many
22:39
Speaker 5: quarterbacks or guys like home ground guys that really know
22:42
Speaker 5: the inside of it. I mean, you and I can
22:44
Speaker 5: bs about it and we know a little bit about it,
22:47
Speaker 5: but not anything like what these guys do.
22:50
Speaker 1: I think you're short changing me.
22:51
Speaker 2: Coming up next, Demon Williams ends up being the big
22:56
Speaker 2: topic here today, and I do wonder how it is
22:59
Speaker 2: affecting some of your fandom out there of College Football
23:02
Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM, and we
23:05
Speaker 2: do have the demand Williams thing to discuss here. In
23:07
Speaker 2: a moment, I was just thinking during the break coming
23:09
Speaker 2: back for the break about what Bucky had said, the
23:11
Speaker 2: slight that he made against me, And I just want
23:14
Speaker 2: to point out that, uh, New Year's resolution one thirty
23:18
Speaker 2: one out of four hundred and ninety six that I made,
23:20
Speaker 2: heyt one, I want to know by the end of
23:24
Speaker 2: this year more football than coach Hugh and Hasselback combined.
23:29
Speaker 1: I had already made that a goal.
23:30
Speaker 2: Wo.
23:31
Speaker 1: Can I can make those achievable? Actually?
23:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're going to fail at that one.
23:35
Speaker 7: Really, Yeah, because first of all, you just said it
23:37
Speaker 7: on the air, which means Hugh's probably heard it, So
23:39
Speaker 7: that means he was going to study even more. Yeah,
23:42
Speaker 7: So it's you're just you're chasing an uphill.
23:44
Speaker 5: I don't think you has even study at all. And
23:49
Speaker 5: then any the combined part of it, Yeah, combined, completely unachievable.
23:53
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, individually, but also unachievable.
23:58
Speaker 2: Don't want a bucket or ash around your children when
24:01
Speaker 2: they want to set goals for themselves.
24:03
Speaker 6: They're not stupid goals.
24:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta tell my kids and make them achievable.
24:08
Speaker 5: You know, my son, if he's like, hey, I want
24:10
Speaker 5: to be a racehorse jockey, I'm gonna say, son, that's
24:15
Speaker 5: for smaller people. Huh, I'm small right now, Dad, You're
24:20
Speaker 5: not going to stay that way.
24:22
Speaker 4: Yeah.
24:23
Speaker 6: Man, it's just have to ride three horses at the
24:25
Speaker 6: same time.
24:26
Speaker 1: As a friend. I just got to tell you set
24:28
Speaker 1: achievable goals.
24:29
Speaker 2: It's Chuck Powell here with Spirit crushers Ashley Ryan and Bucky.
24:34
Speaker 6: Jacobs around here.
24:35
Speaker 1: On this Wednesday.
24:37
Speaker 2: I mean sorry, and we will certainly talk some more
24:40
Speaker 2: NFL playoffs coming up on the program Press Berkeley Caton
24:43
Speaker 2: making his show debut today at nine thirty coming Office Boy.
24:47
Speaker 2: You score two goals and you think you own the world.
24:49
Speaker 2: You know, you just go on any radio show that
24:52
Speaker 2: you want, even one as prestigious as this the next one.
24:55
Speaker 2: I mean, good for him, yep. But we got blind
24:58
Speaker 2: sided yesterday here in Seattle. Certainly Husky fans certainly kjar
25:04
Speaker 2: with the news from Demond Williams Junior, and it has
25:07
Speaker 2: turned into certainly our biggest topic of the day. Demond
25:11
Speaker 2: Williams Junior, if you haven't heard, well, he had signed
25:15
Speaker 2: a deal, a revenue sharing deal with Washington that we
25:18
Speaker 2: thought in the Jetfish column of one less thing to
25:23
Speaker 2: worry about. Yep, we could put Demond Williams Junior the quarterback,
25:27
Speaker 2: the Heisman candidate heading into next season. Well, you can't
25:31
Speaker 2: trust anything anymore in college football, apparently, not even written word,
25:36
Speaker 2: not even a signature on a contract, because Demond Williams
25:41
Speaker 2: Junior entered the transfer portal last night and we already
25:46
Speaker 2: knew by the time that he got to the transfer
25:48
Speaker 2: portal that he was already going to LSU to play
25:52
Speaker 2: for Lane Kiffin. And so yes, consider us gobsmacked. And
25:57
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people nationally think this might
25:59
Speaker 2: be the story like Kurt Flood was for free agency
26:03
Speaker 2: and professional sports once upon a time, this might be
26:08
Speaker 2: the story where college football decides, all right, we can't
26:13
Speaker 2: have this occur.
26:15
Speaker 1: So what are we going to do to fix this?
26:18
Speaker 1: Right now?
26:20
Speaker 2: Hopefully, I mean that's the most vegan roof for right now.
26:24
Speaker 2: Hopefully that is the case. But I do want to ask,
26:27
Speaker 2: because I saw this a lot last night about that's it.
26:30
Speaker 1: I just can't follow this sport anymore.
26:33
Speaker 2: And a lot of people have been saying that for
26:34
Speaker 2: a while, and yet ratings just keep on going up, up,
26:37
Speaker 2: up and up. So you haven't collectively committed to this.
26:40
Speaker 2: I'm sure a few individuals have committed to this, but
26:43
Speaker 2: it certainly has an affected college football's bottom line.
26:46
Speaker 1: Ashley.
26:47
Speaker 2: I think of the three of us has been the
26:49
Speaker 2: one that has been most turned off by the state
26:52
Speaker 2: of affairs in college football here the last couple of years.
26:55
Speaker 2: So was this like a final straw for you last night?
26:59
Speaker 7: I would say say, yes, it's and I don't think
27:03
Speaker 7: it's no fault of you, Dub at all.
27:05
Speaker 6: It's just the entire the way it's going.
27:07
Speaker 7: I've talked three years on with t you guys, like
27:10
Speaker 7: loyalty is the thing that separates college football from the NFL. Right,
27:14
Speaker 7: you feel like you have a bond, a loyalty with
27:16
Speaker 7: the players that are playing for the college football team
27:19
Speaker 7: that you root for. Right you either grew up rooting
27:21
Speaker 7: for that team because that's your hometown team, or you
27:24
Speaker 7: chose to go to that school and you have that
27:26
Speaker 7: bond with the players that chose to go to that
27:28
Speaker 7: school and the coaches that chose to be there, and
27:31
Speaker 7: that's all gone. So that bond, that loyalty, that thing
27:35
Speaker 7: you share, it's just turned me into more of a
27:38
Speaker 7: casual college football fan. I'm not turning it off on weekends, okay,
27:42
Speaker 7: but I'm not. It's also not oh my gosh, must
27:47
Speaker 7: see TV, Like we got to have a party to
27:49
Speaker 7: watch the Huskies. I don't do that anymore. And I
27:52
Speaker 7: canceled my season tickets. We've had them since two thousand
27:55
Speaker 7: and nine, and part of that was Palmer's softball schedule.
27:59
Speaker 7: You know, we only went to two games this year.
28:02
Speaker 7: But we're also not making it a priority, you know,
28:06
Speaker 7: trying canceling other things to say, no, we got Husky
28:09
Speaker 7: season tickets, We've got to go to the game.
28:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
28:12
Speaker 2: Well, I look, I mean sometimes baseball's done a lot
28:16
Speaker 2: of things over the years that are just like, you've
28:19
Speaker 2: got to be kidding me. As great as sport it is, is,
28:22
Speaker 2: I mean, can you run this thing any worse?
28:25
Speaker 7: Yeah?
28:26
Speaker 1: And there have been times I'm like, if I.
28:27
Speaker 2: Wasn't such a die hard fan, I think I'd stop
28:32
Speaker 2: watching baseball.
28:34
Speaker 1: I've had those moments. Yeah, and yet I'm so locked in.
28:38
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything they could do.
28:40
Speaker 2: I think they could probably like steal my mom's Social
28:43
Speaker 2: Security checks out of the mailbox, and I'm like, man,
28:46
Speaker 2: the game's on, you know, I think i'd steal might
28:49
Speaker 2: just stay in there, you know what I mean. And so, yes,
28:52
Speaker 2: there is an element of.
28:54
Speaker 1: I know I'm getting abused.
28:56
Speaker 2: I know I don't like these parts of the process,
28:59
Speaker 2: but I'm still going to be invested in it to
29:02
Speaker 2: a degree. And it sounds like you're keeping your foot
29:04
Speaker 2: in the door just so if they fix it, then
29:07
Speaker 2: you didn't.
29:09
Speaker 1: Close yourself off entirely.
29:11
Speaker 6: Yeah to it.
29:12
Speaker 2: But I will say this, I don't think that sentiment's
29:16
Speaker 2: going to win the day. I think a lot of you,
29:19
Speaker 2: not Ashley, I understand the rules that she's made for herself.
29:23
Speaker 2: A lot of you that say I'm done with it,
29:24
Speaker 2: are probably going to watch three times more college football
29:27
Speaker 2: next year than what you did, and they're counting on it.
29:30
Speaker 2: College football is constantly counted on this, Bucky. Just this
29:32
Speaker 2: idea of any publicity, I think they're the biggest, the
29:37
Speaker 2: biggest a holes when it comes to that. Of anyone
29:41
Speaker 2: this side of the Kardashians, any publicity is good publicity.
29:45
Speaker 2: We don't care as long as our name just keeps
29:46
Speaker 2: getting out there. I think that's college football in a nutshell.
29:49
Speaker 2: But at some point, I mean, don't you just get
29:54
Speaker 2: tired of reading how stupid you are and how angry
29:59
Speaker 2: people are with you. I mean, at some point, don't
30:02
Speaker 2: you have to recognize that people are fed up with
30:06
Speaker 2: the things that you do and the lack of leadership
30:08
Speaker 2: that you show and the softness that you portray when
30:12
Speaker 2: it comes to what looks like some pretty obvious rule
30:16
Speaker 2: changes that have to take place. I don't know if
30:19
Speaker 2: they're going to just keep leaning on, Hey, everybody's talking
30:22
Speaker 2: about college football this morning. Who cares if Demon Williams
30:26
Speaker 2: left UWLSU. That just means more people are talking college
30:30
Speaker 2: football today. At some point, don't you have to make
30:33
Speaker 2: the decision of we need to do things the right way,
30:37
Speaker 2: and we need to do them the right way.
30:38
Speaker 5: Now, you would think you would think that most people
30:42
Speaker 5: would think that, But then whenever the almighty dollar comes
30:45
Speaker 5: into play, then people don't care about any of the
30:49
Speaker 5: other things, the periphery stuff of what's people's thoughts on it. Well,
30:53
Speaker 5: if it doesn't end up affecting the bottom line. And
30:55
Speaker 5: let's be real, if there's a stadium that holds seventy
30:58
Speaker 5: thousand people next year, you might have thirty thousand of
31:02
Speaker 5: them that are still there that are pissed off that
31:05
Speaker 5: Demon Williams isn't here and they're mad at Demon Williams,
31:09
Speaker 5: or they're mad at the university for I guess not
31:11
Speaker 5: writing a contract that was ironclad enough, or they're mad
31:14
Speaker 5: at the NCAA, and yet they still don't want to
31:18
Speaker 5: give up putting purple on salegating over and enjoying a
31:22
Speaker 5: Saturday like they did with their grandpa. And they're going
31:25
Speaker 5: to continue the tradition. So it's not and you just
31:28
Speaker 5: are not going to have enough people. I don't think
31:30
Speaker 5: that will bow out of it. You might have people
31:32
Speaker 5: that stop paying money into collectives for a freshman that
31:36
Speaker 5: will come and sit the bench for a year and
31:37
Speaker 5: then jump ship to somewhere else, or maybe sit the
31:40
Speaker 5: bench for a spring practice and jump ship as soon
31:43
Speaker 5: as possible, and you just watch your money flyway. That
31:46
Speaker 5: money might dry up or or decrease to some degree,
31:50
Speaker 5: but I don't think the overarching money is going to
31:52
Speaker 5: go anywhere. I mean, we've talked at length about how
31:55
Speaker 5: the actual deciding of a national champion was horrendous for
31:59
Speaker 5: one hundred years.
32:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we just now got there.
32:02
Speaker 5: Did college football fail to be successful while we were
32:06
Speaker 5: just having a computer decide who was the champ or
32:09
Speaker 5: or a committee decide who it was? And now it's
32:12
Speaker 5: things are going in the right direction. There's just no guardrails.
32:15
Speaker 5: And if you want to call what they did guard rails,
32:17
Speaker 5: they obviously are not strict enough guardrails and they're not
32:21
Speaker 5: firm enough guardrails because it's still running off the rails
32:24
Speaker 5: like yesterday.
32:24
Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of people, I mean
32:26
Speaker 2: a lot of people. Let's say that my one person
32:29
Speaker 2: boycott of the Bulls for twenty years is why we
32:31
Speaker 2: have the tournament.
32:32
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but they still have the Bulls. Yeah, but
32:36
Speaker 1: I don't care. We have a tournament. Okay, yeah, okay,
32:39
Speaker 1: So you just did it until we had a tournament. That'say.
32:41
Speaker 1: It really bothered him, took him.
32:42
Speaker 2: I mean they just got on it immediately, right yeah.
32:46
Speaker 1: Right around in the twenty year mark.
32:48
Speaker 2: They were like, we got to get this guy back
32:50
Speaker 2: to watching posts in football again. And so I say
32:55
Speaker 2: that tucking cheek, but I did, I did, I boy
32:57
Speaker 2: cut it. The I just felt like, if I'm going
32:58
Speaker 2: to complain about this all the time, I got to
33:01
Speaker 2: put my money where my mouth is. I can't just
33:03
Speaker 2: sit here and just keep watching this product. And so
33:05
Speaker 2: I put a self imposed sanctions on myself. And I
33:08
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not telling people to do that. I'm
33:11
Speaker 2: not telling people not to go to U dub games,
33:14
Speaker 2: but there is an element of putting your money where
33:15
Speaker 2: your mouth is. Ashley saying, I'm not going to stop
33:19
Speaker 2: watching it, but I'm not gonna pay for the product
33:21
Speaker 2: anymore until they fix some of this stuff. And some
33:25
Speaker 2: of you out there you say it and then you
33:28
Speaker 2: don't change. You watch four times more than what you
33:30
Speaker 2: did the previous year. That's obviously going on with a
33:33
Speaker 2: lot of people. I mean, their ratings are through the roof,
33:36
Speaker 2: Like game day, there are people stacked around, you know,
33:40
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee for three quarter miles. Obviously, things are going
33:46
Speaker 2: splendidly for college football despite all this rankor and anger
33:50
Speaker 2: that people are expressing, at least on social media. So
33:53
Speaker 2: if you really do want it to change, I mean,
33:55
Speaker 2: it does take a little bit of a fundamental process
33:58
Speaker 2: of you wanting to sacrifice something. But I just hate
34:01
Speaker 2: that college football can't recognize. Man, we're pissing a lot
34:04
Speaker 2: of people off because we're doing stupid things. Let's get
34:08
Speaker 2: it under control. Why does it have to take disaster
34:11
Speaker 2: before anybody acts in the sports world these.
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Speaker 7: Days, Well, they haven't cared and they haven't cared about
34:16
Speaker 7: fans for a long time. I mean it's notable by
34:19
Speaker 7: game times and the fact that you don't announce a
34:20
Speaker 7: game now within you can announce it within six six
34:24
Speaker 7: days when a game is going to be They the
34:26
Speaker 7: fans are not a priority in college football because, as
34:28
Speaker 7: you said, they know no matter what, people are going
34:31
Speaker 7: to be watching and they're getting their money somehow. So
34:33
Speaker 7: this is just more of an example of the fans
34:35
Speaker 7: not being the priority. And again to reiterate, I'm not
34:38
Speaker 7: mad at you, dub It's not real. I'm not going
34:41
Speaker 7: to the games because I'm mad at you, Dubbs. Well,
34:43
Speaker 7: this isn't a priority in my life anymore and worth
34:46
Speaker 7: the money that I'm paying because they don't. College football
34:50
Speaker 7: in general does not give a you know what about
34:52
Speaker 7: the fans.
34:52
Speaker 2: Imagine if you gave a million dollar check to keep
34:56
Speaker 2: Devon Williams.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, then I'd be real pissed.
34:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine that.
34:59
Speaker 2: Imagine person, at least I would think that that person
35:02
Speaker 2: is up in arms. Today, we'll continue the conversation next
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35:08
Speaker 5: Having enjoyed that conversation, what happened? We're talking about men's things.
35:15
Speaker 5: Men's things yep.
35:17
Speaker 1: Literally, yeah, yeah, things that belong to men.
35:20
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, exactly, sure, yes, precise mine, mine is mine.
35:27
Speaker 1: Huh.
35:28
Speaker 2: We've got our Green Jacket draft coming up to preview
35:31
Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs, so we're going to do that at
35:33
Speaker 2: the top of the hour. We also have some hardware
35:36
Speaker 2: to hand out, some green jacket things to hand out
35:39
Speaker 2: at the top of.
35:40
Speaker 1: The hour as well.
35:42
Speaker 2: But obviously this college football topic is a bit of
35:46
Speaker 2: a runaway train here this morning, and this might be
35:49
Speaker 2: our last time to just weigh in on it. And
35:52
Speaker 2: I actually heard Rick Neweisel on another station this morning
35:56
Speaker 2: on the way in on a network, on a national
35:59
Speaker 2: network this morning morning. We pay a lot for that
36:02
Speaker 2: opinion around here, buddy, he do sure.
36:06
Speaker 1: Yeah.
36:07
Speaker 2: Anyway, he of course is going to the UFL, and
36:12
Speaker 2: I heard him talking about it, and I wasn't interviewing him,
36:15
Speaker 2: so it allowed me to kind of think a little
36:18
Speaker 2: from a different perspective about what he was talking about.
36:20
Speaker 2: But what he told us on our show earlier this week,
36:24
Speaker 2: he was talking about the merits of the UFL. He's
36:27
Speaker 2: going back to the UFL, He's going back to his
36:29
Speaker 2: glory days. He was a quarterback in the USFL. For
36:32
Speaker 2: the San Antonio Gunslingers, and now the USFL is combined
36:35
Speaker 2: with the XFL and it's the UFL. And so he's
36:38
Speaker 2: going back to his roots, if you will, and he's
36:41
Speaker 2: gonna be the head coach of the Dallas Renegades. And
36:43
Speaker 2: he told us it is like, hey, you're looking for
36:47
Speaker 2: another product. I mean, these are eighteen to twenty two
36:49
Speaker 2: year olds chasing the same dreams as the guys in college.
36:53
Speaker 2: Their salaries are capped at sixty four thousand dollars per year,
36:58
Speaker 2: and we do have some successories that occur here. And
37:03
Speaker 2: it just made me think, because so many people still
37:07
Speaker 2: talk about the purity of what college football used to be.
37:10
Speaker 2: I'm not one of those because I've never felt that
37:12
Speaker 2: it was pure. At least now it's a little more honest,
37:15
Speaker 2: I suppose about what they're doing behind the scenes. But yeah,
37:21
Speaker 2: I mean, if you really are seeking that, I mean,
37:25
Speaker 2: there you go. There's a place where young eighteen to
37:30
Speaker 2: twenty two year olds are playing football and chasing dreams,
37:33
Speaker 2: and it sure feels a lot more pure than what
37:35
Speaker 2: we're covering right now.
37:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
37:38
Speaker 5: I mean, but it's like, did you ever go to
37:40
Speaker 5: a JVA football game?
37:43
Speaker 1: Like I never went to watch a JV football game, No,
37:46
Speaker 1: I hear you.
37:47
Speaker 5: I mean, and so college football is that it's like
37:49
Speaker 5: the next NFL version.
37:52
Speaker 1: Nobody's arguing that. Yah.
37:53
Speaker 2: I'm just saying for those out there that have just
37:56
Speaker 2: had enough and missed the right and have pledged to
37:59
Speaker 2: I once thing pure, well there's you're pure.
38:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
38:02
Speaker 2: So if you're just gonna keep watching this and live
38:05
Speaker 2: with all the headaches and complaining and not doing anything
38:08
Speaker 2: about it, there's an option out there to watch, you know,
38:12
Speaker 2: young men trying to chase a dream where it's not
38:16
Speaker 2: all about finances, right.
38:18
Speaker 1: You know. No, I'm with you, and I get it.
38:20
Speaker 5: I do think that you As far as the athletes go,
38:23
Speaker 5: that is most certainly probably the biggest collection of guys
38:29
Speaker 5: that are doing it because they love it and they
38:31
Speaker 5: just want they're holding on, they want to play. Is
38:34
Speaker 5: they want more. It's not a greed thing. It's not
38:37
Speaker 5: a it's not I where's the next best deal? Right now?
38:41
Speaker 5: The thing that sucks about this whole story is essentially
38:44
Speaker 5: college football, which once was that it was the next
38:48
Speaker 5: best football players, the next best group of guys, the
38:51
Speaker 5: next group of NFL dudes that you're going to cheer
38:54
Speaker 5: for would come to your school for four maybe five years.
38:58
Speaker 5: You got to cheer for them, you got to watch
39:00
Speaker 5: to grow and there was unfortunately, there's nobody was getting paid,
39:05
Speaker 5: and so it was just genuinely for the love of
39:08
Speaker 5: the game and for the opportunity to go make money
39:11
Speaker 5: eventually professionally.
39:13
Speaker 1: Well, now all of a sudden, it's this convoluted mess.
39:16
Speaker 5: It's the same it's the same age of guys. But
39:19
Speaker 5: now you've said we're going to pay you, and we're
39:21
Speaker 5: not going to have any real rules about how we're
39:23
Speaker 5: going to do that, and so your loyalty you don't
39:26
Speaker 5: have to have any And that sucks because everybody says, well,
39:29
Speaker 5: it ain't the player's fault, it's the coach's fault because
39:31
Speaker 5: they learned it from them. It's all of their fault,
39:34
Speaker 5: and including the NCAA.
39:36
Speaker 6: That it is a collective effort.
39:39
Speaker 1: Everyone that is the fault. That's the real collective.
39:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're the ones that they're not paying any
39:44
Speaker 5: money for anything. They're just raking it in, raking it in.
39:49
Speaker 5: It's just it's not what it was, it never will
39:52
Speaker 5: be what it once was. And so now we just
39:54
Speaker 5: got to wrap our arms around it and figure out, well,
39:56
Speaker 5: is there something good that we can that can come
39:59
Speaker 5: out of it?
39:59
Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 5: And the good will be that these kids will get
40:02
Speaker 5: paid instead of just doing it for nothing, with the
40:05
Speaker 5: exception of their tuition, which is something. But they'll get
40:08
Speaker 5: paid because the machine that's making the billion dollars plus
40:13
Speaker 5: is making money. So here you get paid, But let's
40:15
Speaker 5: figure out a way to get this thing on the rails.
40:17
Speaker 2: Get paid all you want as far as I'm concerned.
40:20
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Justin Bieber sucks at making music,
40:23
Speaker 2: but he may he's made a lot of money.
40:25
Speaker 1: Whatever.
40:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you got somebody to buy your album and
40:29
Speaker 2: good for you, and I'll watch your videos or whatever
40:31
Speaker 2: they do, then good for you. Free open market. If
40:35
Speaker 2: you've got some fool out there that wants to pay
40:37
Speaker 2: you a zillion dollars to play backup quarterback at Stanford,
40:42
Speaker 2: go for it, buddy.
40:43
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stand in the way of that.
40:45
Speaker 2: But man, you do have to get to the point
40:47
Speaker 2: where a written a signature on a contract has.
40:51
Speaker 1: To mean more than what it means right now. And
40:53
Speaker 1: that goes with the coaches too.
40:54
Speaker 6: That's for everyone.
40:55
Speaker 1: We have to get back to that place.
40:58
Speaker 2: And college football's got to get to that place. And
41:00
Speaker 2: if we end up just calling it professional football and
41:02
Speaker 2: we don't have student athletes anymore, we just have university employees,
41:07
Speaker 2: football program employees, well, by gum, they better be around
41:12
Speaker 2: for more than just a song. They better be there
41:15
Speaker 2: for something more than just waiting for the next better
41:19
Speaker 2: offer that comes their way. And hopefully this will be
41:24
Speaker 2: the good that comes out of this. Hopefully this is
41:26
Speaker 2: the story that is blown up not just here in Seattle,
41:29
Speaker 2: but nationally that people look at and say, well, we
41:33
Speaker 2: obviously can't live like this anymore. All right, Coming up next,
41:37
Speaker 2: we preview the NFL playoffs like only we do on
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