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- 0:37He's nine.
- 0:38and rich apparently.
- 0:40Hey kids! Welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
- 0:45I remain, as always, your 100% impartial,
- 0:50completely unbiased and just joyful today,
- 0:53host, Oldman Shoutingatclouds Joining me this week,
- 0:58back from the wilderness, is GT.
- 1:01Hey everyone, how you doing? And I remain here somewhat unbiased
- 1:05and somewhat partial, but completely disorganized and unprepared co host
- 1:10for this week. So to misquote old man.
- 1:12All right.
- 1:14Yeah. There we go. And MJ.
- 1:18Hey everyone, I hope you had a f are having a better sportsing time than me.
- 1:22I barely survived Blue Jays trade deadline.
- 1:25my team got beat and I'm wearing a Montreal Alohouette shirt,
- 1:29so
- 1:31yes. But I've I've gotta say though,
- 1:33with GT as a late scratch last week,
- 1:36you did a fantastic job of stepping up and carrying the show.
- 1:39So that is great. We'll have a more balanced approach today and and hopefully
- 1:44it all works well.
- 1:46Well, I was going to add that last week's show was perhaps the best
- 1:49of I've ever heard of the show.
- 1:51And some and as and as some guy said,
- 1:53you don't need that G T guy, he's a bum.
- 1:55So ~ and then I realized that was me.
- 1:58So
- 1:59Yes. Yeah.
- 2:02Someone needed to carry that Stampeder torch a little more though.
- 2:04Yeah, that's it.
- 2:06It's flickering, but it's still there.
- 2:08Yes.
- 2:08you're sounding a little bit like Groucho Marx there.
- 2:11I would never be a member of any club that would stoop so low as to have me.
- 2:15That's right.
- 2:16Alright. Well I'm I'm starting with a rant,
- 2:24because I got annoyed this weekend,
- 2:26and I've had ~ a few people on social media tell me to cool down,
- 2:30it doesn't matter, but this really,
- 2:32really got under my skin, and it's just it's a minor thing.
- 2:35Didn't in the end didn't affect the game.
- 2:37But in the Ottawa Montreal game,
- 2:40Ottawa's down inside the five as they were 90% of the time without getting
- 2:47a touchdown. They run a
- 2:50A basically just a running play to Atabadye He gets stopped and
- 2:56the ball gets stripped out and Montreal recovers.
- 2:59Okay, great. Then this the control center jumps in and no no no we've
- 3:04got to review this. And why is it always at Ottawa?
- 3:07It was at Ottawa that like two years ago with Saskatchewan that the game was over,
- 3:11and but the control center, no,
- 3:12no, no, it's come everybody come back.
- 3:14In this case.
- 3:15You've got a play that's been called.
- 3:17It's a judgment call of when you that that player is stopped.
- 3:21If somebody challenges it, then maybe you can bring the control center in and say,
- 3:25okay, yes, he was moving backwards.
- 3:27that shouldn't have been a fumble.
- 3:28But for the control center itself to jump in on a judgment call is just ridiculous.
- 3:33There's a reason we have human officials down there.
- 3:36And frankly, you gotta look at the other side of that question.
- 3:39What if Ataboy
- 3:40Had somehow spun out of that contact after stepping back a step and a half,
- 3:45and spun around and got himself in the end zone.
- 3:47Would there be anything from the control center there going,
- 3:49no, no, he was stopped. His forward progress was stopped?
- 3:52No. Frankly, it's just BS. The control center has got to keep their noses out,
- 3:57keep it in their pants, unless there's something egregious that they should
- 4:01be in on. Okay, I got that out of my system.
- 4:04We can move on to other things.
- 4:06Well
- 4:06Any comments or are
- 4:07you just gonna sit and shake your heads?
- 4:09Well,
- 4:10I just I'm curious because I have forgotten,
- 4:12is it not every turnover is r automatically reviewed?
- 4:16And therefore that would have been automatically reviewed,
- 4:20whereas your point that if he had been stopped and then just turned around
- 4:23and went into the end zone, it would have also been automatically reviewed because
- 4:26any TD, every T D is reviewed.
- 4:28So while
- 4:29Yes.
- 4:30I agree with you in principle on the rant,
- 4:32on the whole idea of stop interfering.
- 4:36I think that's just a rule that they ha that the in that they review every turnover.
- 4:41And that was considered a turnover.
- 4:42Yes, it is. And I would e
- 4:43Thank you.
- 4:45Yeah, sorry, Ed, I'm I am still passionate about this.
- 4:47I would agree with you if the review had said,
- 4:50the whistle sounded before the ball was stripped.
- 4:52On the field it was re it was ruled that his progress was stopped.
- 4:56It wasn't. So there's no reason for that review to be able to say there
- 5:00was no chance for that play to go on.
- 5:02Like I said, if he had broken free and got in,
- 5:05they wouldn't there wouldn't have been reviewing that.
- 5:09It's a it's the point of trusting the judgment of the on field officials.
- 5:13Okay. No more rebuttals. I'm done.
- 5:15I'm off my s
- 5:17All right, we're back. Here we go.
- 5:18Yes. Now now that Yes. Yes.
- 5:21It's it's it's it's start it's starting off as a great week.
- 5:22We we we and now that we're we're back to this.
- 5:24We've we've been ~ Yes Yeah,
- 5:27Let's get this thing on the road.
- 5:29Let's go.
- 5:30well, you know, it's a slow start.
- 5:32It's a slow start.
- 5:33It's your traditional bomber game.
- 5:35It's a slow start, but we'll pick it up.
- 5:36We'll get it rolling.
- 5:38We we've also been playing ha had played for part of the season here a game that
- 5:42GT came up with called Lyrical Eloquence and we've got some good results
- 5:46and we'll probably keep dropping these things in there and if anybody guesses
- 5:49it we'll report on it. But other than that,
- 5:51we're maybe not so much. GT you were gonna talk a little bit about this
- 5:57as it was your idea.
- 5:58Well, you know, in every in every playbook there's that play that you pull
- 6:02out when you want it to work and then you just realize,
- 6:06~ not maybe not. So that's what we've done with lyrical outcome.
- 6:10We're gonna take that out of the playbook and never to be seen again,
- 6:13unless of course we need it absolutely in the playoffs.
- 6:16And then it will come back to haunt us and someone will be misquoted again.
- 6:22But nonetheless, I did wanna just say before
- 6:25before we do end lyrical eloquence off that unfortunately I was not here last week
- 6:29because the week previously I believe I had old man's eloquent old man's lyric,
- 6:36but I'm not a hundred percent sure.
- 6:38so I will ask you if you had it.
- 6:43What did I have for you last week?
- 6:46Yours was another ride around the sun,
- 6:49if or something along that lines,
- 6:50if I remember correctly. And I I wasn't sure.
- 6:52Yeah.
- 6:55Hold on, I have it. It was
- 6:57Yeah.
- 6:58your no, that was two weeks ago.
- 7:00forget about it. Anyways, I thought
- 7:00Yeah.
- 7:02I had yours, but mine that and and because you mentioned Sun,
- 7:07I was able to sneak a second one in of that I wasn't going to use.
- 7:11But it allowed me also to ta to bring up my tape my two favorite all-time singer
- 7:16songwriters.
- 7:17And I thought ~ in one show and I thought that was kind of fun,
- 7:21so it's a good way to end it. And of course mine was the sun's not yellow,
- 7:25it's chicken, which is, you know,
- 7:28tombstone blues by Bob Dylan from nineteen sixty five,
- 7:30maybe the most important album of all time in Highway Sixty One revisited.
- 7:34So that's just, you know,
- 7:36Yeah.
- 7:36close to my heart and dear to my heart.
- 7:37But even more so because we were talking about kickers and because everybody
- 7:41was missing kicks that week, I also said
- 7:45You don't have to have a point to make a point if you get the point,
- 7:48which of course is from Harry Nielsen The Points.
- 7:51And I would highly
- 7:52Yeah.
- 7:52recommend anyone with children that has not watched Harry Nielsen The Point
- 7:58as a half hour show, YouTube it,
- 8:02watch it. It may be one of the most important things you could ever have your child
- 8:07child watch. It is tremendous.
- 8:09Simply tremendous. So I will leave that on that and
- 8:14Harry Nelson was a gem, an absolute gem,
- 8:16and again, close to my heart. So that's the that's the two that will send lyrical
- 8:21eloquence off with with a bang,
- 8:24so to speak, and then maybe, just maybe,
- 8:27we'll drag one out later. And that's that.
- 8:29Yeah. thank you for that. Yeah,
- 8:32sometimes we're a football podcast,
- 8:34sometimes we're a rock and roll podcast,
- 8:35sometimes Basket ~ who knows, whatever.
- 8:38It could be anything. And you gave me too much credit there.
- 8:41I didn't actually know that I was sneaking something in.
- 8:44My my line there at the opening about another exhausted from another trip around
- 8:48the sun was my obscure way of saying I just got past my birthday.
- 8:52But I may I may end up
- 8:52Well, congratulations on that.
- 8:54dr I mean we
- 8:55This
- 8:55started when I threw in a line that was a quote from a song,
- 8:58but it wasn't intended that way.
- 9:00It was just a part of what we do.
- 9:02So if you spot us doing anything,
- 9:03fit please, please still send in a comment and let us know about
- 9:07any lyrics and sometimes you'll catch us without knowing,
- 9:10like GT did just there with me.
- 9:12Anything from you on it, MJ before we move on?
- 9:16Well, I am glad I ended Lyrical Eloquence with an Arkell's lyrics that
- 9:21my kid clocked right away. And you just you never know what a Taylor Swift lyric
- 9:25will just drop in.
- 9:27Yes.
- 9:28It's some things are inevitable.
- 9:28There you go.
- 9:31Yeah.
- 9:34Yes. and speaking of inevitable,
- 9:36teams that are having a bad time have to find themselves a scapegoat.
- 9:41Or two or three. And Ottawa this week after going 0 and seven.
- 9:46Still confident to be the first team ever to go and seven and make
- 9:50the playoffs and win the Grey Cup.
- 9:51But, you know, that's
- 9:52Full full credit to them for that.
- 9:54they decided their problem is their defense.
- 9:56Not an offense that can get to the five yard line and stall continuously,
- 10:01but their defense. So they released,
- 10:04fired whatever, their defensive coordinator,
- 10:07William Fields, and took the special teams coordinator,
- 10:11Jeff Reinbolt, and made him the defensive coordinator.
- 10:14What do you figure? Is that going to make for a better red black team?
- 10:19I don't know. I mean I was a big field supporter when he got the job.
- 10:24I thought he was a really good coach when he was co coordinator in Toronto
- 10:29and I thought him and Dinwiiddie had a relationship from those days.
- 10:33So I thought it was going to work.
- 10:35And ~ but as you said, they needed a scapegoat.
- 10:39Their defense has not been great.
- 10:41It was really bad again the other night.
- 10:43And ~ yeah, so surprise, no, there's no surprise.
- 10:46That yeah, it's gonna happen. It's somebody's
- 10:49Yeah.
- 10:49gonna happen.
- 10:50Ryan said in his press conference today that ~ he had given Will Field some
- 10:54suggestions or told him to do things and those things were not done.
- 10:57But I was like, okay, they they're looking for blood there at 0 and 7,
- 11:01you gotta fire someone. Someone's heads on the chopping block.
- 11:04It's not gonna be Ryan, who is head coach and offensive coordinator
- 11:08and general manager, and it's not gonna
- 11:10Morning.
- 11:10be Jeffrey Reinbolt
- 11:12I don't think you're firing him.
- 11:13So what y w I mean w Fields is kinda just the scapegoat here,
- 11:18right? Like whether they he deserved to be fired or not is kind of immaterial.
- 11:22It doesn't really matter. ~ maybe they should look at firing Sean Burke
- 11:26for hiring all these people. Or hiring Ryan.
- 11:29Yes.
- 11:30And not not doing a lot to replace any of the defensive backfield,
- 11:34which wasn't good last year and surprise,
- 11:36surprise, isn't good this year.
- 11:38please direct all your complaints to the CFL as they have implemented
- 11:42the coach's cap. And now s teams
- 11:44Yes.
- 11:44find themselves in these situations and bad teams cannot dig themselves
- 11:48out of this s these situations.
- 11:50even if you can find a way to afford it,
- 11:51you can't afford it. Yes. Trust me.
- 11:54yeah. I personally I think that their defense could be better,
- 11:59but it was not the the biggest problem on the team.
- 12:03And frankly, if there was one part of the team that looked brighter than anything
- 12:07else, it was the special teams So to take your special teams coordinator
- 12:10and make him a defensive coordinator and I d I don't know.
- 12:13That's
- 12:14How is Reinbold at defensive coordinating?
- 12:14To me I I don't see these as positive.
- 12:17Like, does he have a lot of experience?
- 12:18Yeah, he's
- 12:18I don't know if he's done it in the past.
- 12:20Yeah, he's done it he's done it in the past.
- 12:22I don't remember it being terrific when he 'cause I seem to remember he
- 12:26was a a defensive coordinator in Hamilton at one point before he got fired
- 12:31and then came back as the special teams coordinator.
- 12:34so I think that was the case. I may be mistaken.
- 12:37he's bounced around in Montreal,
- 12:40I think he was only special teams,
- 12:41but he might have been DC there for on and off too.
- 12:44he's bounced around in and out at so many different teams over different years.
- 12:48it's hard to remember which position he's at.
- 12:50It's primarily been special teams,
- 12:52~ for sure though. For sure.
- 12:53Yeah.
- 12:54I saw that he was once head coach of the Blue Bombers and their general manager.
- 12:57That is That is correct. Those
- 13:00are the dark days of Winnipeg that no one likes to talk about in the
- 13:04Yeah. Yes. there's a reason that that not many people know that.
- 13:08Ha
- 13:09ha ha.
- 13:09He's been like
- 13:10coaching almost like as long as I've been alive.
- 13:12So I don't know. Maybe maybe some maybe some osmosis has
- 13:15Yes. And he's got a lot of experience.
- 13:17happened.
- 13:18Moving on to other stuff from from the weekend here.
- 13:20MJ, you were mentioning that the ~ the T S N
- 13:25AI slop of Tyson Philpot this weekend was not impressive.
- 13:31Well, okay, this this is enough,
- 13:33right? Like this has to stop. they do these little videos.
- 13:36I mean if you live under a rocker,
- 13:37you fast forward if through everything.
- 13:38~ AI, like TSN likes to do these little AI videos of players.
- 13:42And they used to be just a little bit last year,
- 13:45and this year they're doing like full like feature length like video.
- 13:48Anyway, this on Friday, they put Tyson Philpot up and he was white.
- 13:53Wow. Okay. Yeah, I do fast forward through them or turn them out 'cause
- 13:57I hate that crap, but
- 13:59Yeah, so that that's enough. That's enough.
- 14:02This is whitewashing players is if you want to complain as I have complained
- 14:07and demand they apologize, ~ you can email audiencerelations at tsn.ca
- 14:13to complain about this because this is just it is this it's not right.
- 14:18It's not right, it's too far, we're done.
- 14:21Yeah.
- 14:21Yeah.
- 14:22No, I gotta agree.
- 14:24it shouldn't make your blood boil just watching football.
- 14:28At least only for reasons of that are football related,
- 14:31but this other stuff, yeah, I don't know.
- 14:32I wanna be upset about play
- 14:33on the field, not this stuff.
- 14:35Yeah,
- 14:37I just think it's shoddy production,
- 14:38you know. AI is a computer and AI will only spit out what parameters you put in.
- 14:44So they didn't put in the parameters.
- 14:46so it just spit out a white guy.
- 14:48and because somebody in that f did when they were doing this,
- 14:53keying away, do you know, make him do this,
- 14:55make him do that, which is what they did.
- 14:58the computer just spit it out and nobody looked at it and it just laziness
- 15:03and bad production It's just laziness.
- 15:05Again, it's sheer laziness from your are your T SN,
- 15:09your primary partner that didn't sit down and just go,
- 15:13let's have someone with a sense of reality edit it and go,
- 15:17wait, there's something wrong here.
- 15:18And yeah, and add another click to your to your
- 15:23whatever to your parameters and it would have been fine.
- 15:27no, I mean it wouldn't have been fine because those things are horrible
- 15:30begin with. And that one was one of the worst I've ever seen.
- 15:33~
- 15:34Yes.
- 15:34so it was really bad, but then you could have at least made
- 15:39it just being horrible rather than being horrible.
- 15:44The Stampeders released
- 15:44Yeah. It's
- 15:45a video today of their players trying to like they gave them a a bag of milk,
- 15:50because they're in Ontario this week,
- 15:52and they were had a video of the players trying to pour milk out of this bag,
- 15:55and I would have much rather watched that than these AI videos.
- 16:00I agree. I am serious when I say that stuff comes on and either I tune
- 16:04out and use the chance to to check something else that's going on at the moment
- 16:10or I just fast forward through I've got no that is just it is such a lazy cheap
- 16:15way to try and do entertainment.
- 16:17But apparently we're all in a bit of a mood tonight,
- 16:20so I'm gonna try and move on and
- 16:22Not not make this too negative a podcast.
- 16:25On the upside in Tyson Philpot News,
- 16:28Tyson got to a thousand yards in eight games this weekend.
- 16:33Third player in
- 16:35That's insane.
- 16:35CFL history to do that. About once every third of a century.
- 16:39Hal Peterson in what do I have here?
- 16:41Hal Peterson in fifty six and Terry Greer in nineteen eighty three.
- 16:45How just how amazing is Philpot playing this year?
- 16:49like lights out. This has been a lot of fun.
- 16:51Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah. Like
- 16:53A lot of fun to watch.
- 16:54like at this point in time, there's not even anyone close
- 16:58to winning outstanding player besides him.
- 17:00And if it, you know, if like even like it Davis,
- 17:04you know, as well as Davis Alexander is playing,
- 17:07he's not even gonna get the nomination for Montreal.
- 17:10He can't. Like it Phil Potts gotta get both.
- 17:13Like you can't just give Phil Pot Canadian only.
- 17:15That's crazy. So so yeah.
- 17:16no.
- 17:17If he
- 17:18Yeah. If he gets his piece
- 17:19So like that
- 17:21up and Rourke gets nominated and wins,
- 17:23like we all riot, right? Like
- 17:25Yeah, absolutely.
- 17:25Yeah,
- 17:25exactly. No, not
- 17:26Like but that's like that's
- 17:27crazy that you could have you could have the like literally the best quarterback
- 17:31in the league not even get the team nomination because
- 17:33Yeah. Yeah.
- 17:35that because Phil Potts doing so well.
- 17:37So incredible.
- 17:39No, n
- 17:40knock on wood, the only thing that could stop him at this point is an injury.
- 17:44And I do hope we don't see that 'cause he he'll set the record for most yards
- 17:48in the season otherwise and and frankly I agree with you.
- 17:50And the only person that I think that that has a chance of being close
- 17:54is depending what happens with Edmonton and Rankin for the ~
- 17:58the rest of the year. Edmonton's gone through a gauntlet of teams that
- 18:01are very good against the run and they're through that now and they're gonna you're
- 18:05gonna start seeing Rankin pick up to some more yardage again.
- 18:09So if he has a big second half of the season and gets to say somehow
- 18:13he ~ still manages to get to a thousand and a thousand,
- 18:16he might challenge Phil Pop. But I could easily see it'd be the rare year where
- 18:20we don't have a quarterback in the MOP race.
- 18:22not the
- 18:23Yeah.
- 18:23final two anyway.
- 18:24Yeah.
- 18:26I'll just close this on saying I know there's a whole bunch that goes into
- 18:30all this and everything that you do,
- 18:33the all the work it takes and everything,
- 18:34Tyson. Thank you 'cause it is just amazing watching you play.
- 18:38You you make this league a lot better and we appreciate it.
- 18:44Okay
- 18:45And and you know, I'll I just
- 18:46before before we jump off the subject quickly,
- 18:49because you mentioned that, because how much we do appreciate watching them play,
- 18:52I just appreciate both of those guys how much fun they have playing.
- 18:58And how much
- 18:59Yes.
- 18:59fun it l you know they're having fun from the time they catch the ball,
- 19:03you know, to when they're smiling all the time.
- 19:06They never stop smiling, even when they're given somebody grief and talking trash.
- 19:13They're smiling. They're having fun all the time.
- 19:15And that's just so much more fun for us to watch.
- 19:18So yeah, that's great. I just want to say
- 19:20Yes.
- 19:20that.
- 19:21And they're the they're ~ and they're the kind of players that will take time after
- 19:26the game to get some pictures with Oseya mother and son,
- 19:28who we have photographic evidence of,
- 19:29Yeah, even in the pouring rain.
- 19:29Yeah.
- 19:31Yeah.
- 19:31so
- 19:33that's true of both of them. I said Tyson,
- 19:35but also to to Justin Rankin. Great stuff.
- 19:37it is amazing.
- 19:38the attendance this week was extremely good again.
- 19:41They averaged just over twenty five thousand.
- 19:43Ottawa was the low and even they got almost eighteen,
- 19:47well, seventeen in change, which is not bad for Ottawa.
- 19:50The high was ~ Edmonton at thirty one seven fifty seven,
- 19:56a little bit better than Winnipeg even.
- 19:57Now mind you that was a riders game.
- 19:58~ no. ~ upper deck was open.
- 20:00So I don't know that you'll see that
- 20:03Yeah, I don't know you'll see that every game in Edmonton,
- 20:05but I think over twenty five is a reasonable expectation going forward.
- 20:09So we'll see, yeah. Hamilton was twenty,
- 20:12B C was again just a couple of hundred below Edmonton,
- 20:15so a great week.
- 20:16And we also saw some big signings and ~ play player transactions as it were.
- 20:22Along with fields being fired,
- 20:25~ Eugene Lewis was let go in Ottawa.
- 20:28Let's talk him first before I mention anything else.
- 20:31was that a good move by them?
- 20:34can he make another team better somewhere?
- 20:36Any thoughts on landing spots?
- 20:38I'm really curious because this was a shocker to me.
- 20:41~ yeah, I think he can make another team better if he if he wants to.
- 20:46that's the main point. ~ I don't know first of all,
- 20:49he's not gonna get the money he's used to been getting.
- 20:51so it's gonna he's gonna have to take a major ego check in the bank book.
- 20:56he's gonna have to realize he is going to be the third guy on just about
- 21:00any team he goes to. Because I don't see a lot of teams with receiver needs.
- 21:05the the the weirdest part is the the team that I think ne could use him
- 21:08the most is Edmonton. but the he's not going there.
- 21:11~
- 21:12like I don't know what other team you know that can use him beyond
- 21:16a number three position. So I mean maybe BC.
- 21:21I think BC could use him and I think that would be a good signing and
- 21:25it would help BC
- 21:26But does he want to go to a team that might not even make the playoffs again?
- 21:30You know, and is he willing to take a substantial,
- 21:34substantial pay cut to be the third receiver on a team going forward?
- 21:38Because that's probably what he's going to be at this stage.
- 21:41Yeah, what a what a bad week for Lewis,
- 21:43right? Ed Hervey gets on the panel and basically spills the tea that
- 21:49he was unscrewing like Lewis's nameplate out of the locker room.
- 21:52Okay.
- 21:52Like
- 21:53you know exactly who he was talking about.
- 21:55Yeah.
- 21:55Super
- 21:56awkward. then he gets released.
- 21:58~ he like he had that offensive pass interference call on him.
- 22:04And then the next day he's cut.
- 22:05I hope he picked up his fish and his plant from the locker room.
- 22:09you know, I failed too fast because he was in he was in Montreal before Alexander
- 22:13got there and it was garbage. And he was in Edmonton before Cody got there
- 22:17and it was garbage. And now he's out in Ottawa too,
- 22:20and I'm just like, This guy is such a good receiver.
- 22:22He cannot be on a winning team.
- 22:24Maybe he's the bad vibe. I don't no,
- 22:26he's not don't no.
- 22:28~ but who needs them? I don't know,
- 22:30Saskatchewan, like Emilus and Schaefer Baker are injured.
- 22:33What's going on in BC? I don't know,
- 22:35depends. I don't see anyone else needing a receiver.
- 22:39And I think ~ you know what? He's getting a bad reputation and if Ryan
- 22:43and Ed are going on spouting things around,
- 22:45who's taking a risk on him unless they really,
- 22:48really need him down the stretch.
- 22:50Yeah, I don't see Saskatchewan as a landing spot just because those
- 22:54are both Canadians that are out and they're fairly dependent on Canadians
- 22:57at that position for their ratio,
- 23:00so maybe not I wonder about Winnipeg.
- 23:02I think that they could maybe benefit a bit if he's utilized properly.
- 23:06I honestly don't know if it's
- 23:10The play calling hasn't been making use of of his talents the way it should,
- 23:14because his targets feel to me like they've been down But as
- 23:19far as actual performance goes,
- 23:20I feel kind of like he's been riding on reputation since he left Montreal.
- 23:24It was underperformance in Edmonton.
- 23:26He moved on to Ottawa. It's been underperformance there.
- 23:30And again, might not be his fault.
- 23:31It's hard to tell with how the the the games on TV are are shot,
- 23:36but is he still
- 23:37worth a a a good receiver number or is he a now a a number three or four who's
- 23:43~ approaching the end of his career and if he's got leadership experience maybe that
- 23:48he brings that to a team.
- 23:50Yeah, the thing about Winnipeg though is is he was with Condell for
- 23:53two years in Ottawa and wasn't used properly then.
- 23:57So I'm not sure that Condell would use him properly in Winnipeg either.
- 24:02and at this point in time
- 24:03Yeah, that's true.
- 24:04we don't e yeah, we don't even know who's throwing the ball to
- 24:07him in Winnipeg anymore. So there's that as well.
- 24:10I don't know. I agree with you.
- 24:12I in Edmonton it was a bad situation.
- 24:15Montreal, though he was even when they were bad,
- 24:17he was the bright spot. He was the good thing.
- 24:20He those Geno Lewis down
- 24:21Yes.
- 24:22the sideline pat d you know, they were money and you knew it was gonna happen.
- 24:26And it was just he was ~ you know,
- 24:28thousand twelve hundred yards every single year and was making great plays.
- 24:32when he signed at Edmonton, he was with Taylor Cornelius.
- 24:35Come on, it was just it was bad.
- 24:37So I hardly blame him. And Edmonton was,
- 24:40you know, the proverbial
- 24:42dumpster there when when he was there.
- 24:44So the whole offense. So I can't really blame him.
- 24:47But I think that has a impacted on his play.
- 24:50And I do believe it looks like he's not the guy he was in Montreal when
- 24:54he when every play down the sideline sideline was available to him and
- 24:59he was making every catch from whatever quarterback they were using in those days.
- 25:02And they were using a lot of them.
- 25:04so
- 25:05I I you know, I think he's still serviceable.
- 25:07I mean, look at two years ago we were all or at least not not we,
- 25:12but I had given up on Alexander Hollins and now he's still contributing
- 25:17as that third guy in Montreal,
- 25:19and he's still a guy that can work.
- 25:21And he's not making the money he wanted or who he was making in B C
- 25:25off of that couple years he had there.
- 25:26So I mean Gino could still come back and do that,
- 25:29but is he prepared to
- 25:32make that kind of a sacrifice and put his head in that kind of a space
- 25:35and then go do the job.
- 25:37full credit to him in Montreal.
- 25:38I I'll give you that. Like I said,
- 25:40I thought since Montreal maybe he's riding the reputation,
- 25:43but that a reputation was fully earned in his time in Montreal.
- 25:46I per personally I think
- 25:46Well, but who's throwing to him
- 25:48in Edmonton and Ottawa? Nobody's throwing
- 25:51deep.
- 25:51he was with quarterbacks who couldn't get the ball to r to receivers
- 25:55and for some reason he wasn't being targeted as well.
- 25:57So yeah, it it'll be interesting to see if he gets picked up and goes with
- 26:02a team that actually uses him in the scheme.
- 26:04I think personally what we'll see is he probably won't sign here for a little bit,
- 26:09but at some point between now and the end of the season somebody's gonna lose
- 26:14a top receiver. And
- 26:15Mm-hmm.
- 26:16Gino might get himself a reasonable payday out of that.
- 26:20Not with Edmonton.
- 26:21Alright. Also released with him was Shakir Brown from yeah,
- 26:25not with Edmonton. No. Some things are a given.
- 26:27~ although in this although in this league you never know.
- 26:28Ed will do anything but
- 26:30Ed Ed Ed may Ed ma Ed may have mailed
- 26:33him that nameplate for all we know.
- 26:36Yes. Yeah. And and hey,
- 26:39in in
- 26:39this league it wouldn't surprise me if tomorrow
- 26:41The scope.
- 26:42we see Ed and Gino hugging at a press conference announcing a signing,
- 26:45Yeah. No, you don't
- 26:46'cause you just never know.
- 26:47want you you're you could quite possibly you are correct.
- 26:50You never know. Never say never I guess.
- 26:52Yeah,
- 26:53exactly.
- 26:53I mean in that same article where where you were talking about that
- 26:58he was trashing not Lewis but unnamed players that were obviously Lewis,
- 27:03he was also talking about how character is the number one thing in this team that
- 27:08it goes before talent, it goes before everything else,
- 27:10and we are building a character driven culture in the locker room and
- 27:14we will not bring in bad actors.
- 27:16Two weeks after they put Is Isaiah Adams on their negotiation list the same
- 27:21day he was charged with firearm offenses,
- 27:24so
- 27:24Yeah.
- 27:25never say never. I mean yeah, they took him off the negotiation list again,
- 27:28but still. Anyway, like I was saying,
- 27:30Yeah, 'cause he reported to training camp.
- 27:31Yeah, yeah, that's true too. Yeah.
- 27:32He reported to training camp. That's why he's off the negotiation list.
- 27:34Yeah. he didn't get
- 27:35They would have left him on there.
- 27:37released over this. I guess we don't need him need him on the list.
- 27:40Anyway, they also released Shakir Brown out of the defensive backfield
- 27:44who started all the games this year.
- 27:45And other than not being a receiver,
- 27:48he seemed like he was a reasonable DB to me.
- 27:50Couldn't catch, and there were a couple of interceptions he should have had.
- 27:53But there was that one. And then ~
- 27:54Maybe he was friends with Gino.
- 27:56yeah, so we'll see what see what happens with as they continue
- 27:59to shuffle players back there.
- 28:01And then the other transaction was the Hamilton Tiger Cats traded Chris Kolankowski
- 28:06to the
- 28:07Toronto Argonauts for I believe a sixth round draft pick in twenty twenty seven.
- 28:11So another experienced lineman going to the Argos.
- 28:16They've been struggling a bit there.
- 28:19Yeah, I thought that was interesting
- 28:19done okay.
- 28:20only because I don't think he's been starting in in Hamilton.
- 28:23~
- 28:24He started one game.
- 28:25yeah, that's what I thought. so he's kind of fallen off from the days in Winnipeg.
- 28:30And I don't know what position he's gonna play in Toronto because they've been
- 28:35moving their guys, they're especially their Canadians,
- 28:38back and forth from between center and tackle or center and and guard.
- 28:43And a little bit of tackle, but mostly center and guard.
- 28:45so it's and they've released some other guys that we were surprised they released,
- 28:49Canadians. So not sure what Toronto's doing with their offensive line
- 28:53at this point in time. It will be interesting over the next few weeks.
- 28:57I'm not sure Toronto knows either,
- 28:58but the speculation
- 28:59Yeah.
- 29:00I've heard is they'll put him at center,
- 29:01but who knows, yeah. ~
- 29:03Yeah, but that's Nicastro right now,
- 29:04is it not?
- 29:06I'm not certain on this, but from what I had heard,
- 29:08Nicastro's hurt and they've been s they've got a rookie they were starting there.
- 29:12I'd have to look at the last depth charts to find out.
- 29:12Okay, so maybe that's why. Yeah.
- 29:15Yeah. Yep.
- 29:15That and that might be why. So there you go.
- 29:17Again, as
- 29:18I said off the top, I am unprepared.
- 29:20So I will make everything will be with maybe.
- 29:20Yes. Well and
- 29:24Yes, and and and keep in mind that anything that comes out of my memory
- 29:27has like a fifty percent correct rate anyway,
- 29:29so it it could just be something that that wandered in from the fog and wasn't true.
- 29:34What else? Hall of Fame announcements.
- 29:37Jim Evanson, running back with BC in Ottawa from sixty eight to seventy three.
- 29:42I can remember him, but not a whole lot.
- 29:47I'm understand he's well worthy of the
- 29:50Hall
- 29:50of Fame induction, a have you any memories of him,
- 29:53G T or
- 29:55No, that was that was prior even to my time watching football.
- 30:00I don't have any stories from ~
- 30:03I'm the same. I would have been ten when he started playing and we had
- 30:07one game a week on C B C So I remember knowing the name and knowing he
- 30:11was a good player, but that's about it.
- 30:12And then the other one goes even further back.
- 30:14Frank, Pop Ivy, head coach of Edmonton from fifty four to fifty seven.
- 30:19And being as I wasn't even alive then I have no memories of it.
- 30:23I doubt any of us do.
- 30:25But I'm again apparently very successful over ten wins in every season
- 30:28he was with them. Did quite well with the team,
- 30:31so
- 30:32obviously I do know how good that team was at those times just from their record
- 30:36and from the Grey Cup appearances in those days.
- 30:39a guy that coached them through all of those years is gotta be a pretty good coach.
- 30:42So going in as a coach that makes sense.
- 30:45I trust the history. I don't have to have seen it.
- 30:47And MJ, when I put the showrundown out,
- 30:50you came back with ~ we hadn't talked about Calvin Tiggle and I didn't even realize
- 30:55he'd been announced at all. Do you have anything more on that or?
- 31:00just he played for the Ty Cats but in well he was part of the Grey Cup team
- 31:04and he played their ninety six ninety nine.
- 31:05Yes. Wha when did do you know when they announced him as the ~ as going in?
- 31:06it was a couple of weeks ago it was a couple of weeks ago.
- 31:10Okay, yeah. I completely missed it.
- 31:11I think they have everyone now.
- 31:13Yeah.
- 31:14I think they have
- 31:14Yeah, I remember Yeah,
- 31:16I remember seeing that and and no offense to these guys 'cause they're obviously
- 31:20if they're in the going into the Hall of Fame,
- 31:22they they were tremendous players.
- 31:23And I remember watching Calvin Tiggle and I remember thinking that's
- 31:27a really good linebacker. But I don't ever remember thinking that's an
- 31:30all star or well, maybe an all star,
- 31:33but a hall of fame linebacker.
- 31:35I don't know. Sometimes I those are the ones that I go,
- 31:38Mm, okay.
- 31:39and then you look at their stats and you go,
- 31:41Yeah, no, I get it. Wow, those like that's ~ better than I remember him playing
- 31:46So then it's well then then it's you I kinda go,
- 31:49Okay, that makes more sense. I get it.
- 31:50But and it's probably that case.
- 31:51Yeah. Yeah, they felt the
- 31:53He he was also of the
- 31:54era of the great linebacker shoulder pad,
- 31:56so that's you know, that's another thing.
- 31:57Yes. You probably didn't recognize him out of uniform.
- 31:57Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
- 31:58~
- 32:03Yeah, the yes with w when your shoulder pads could cover from tackle to tackle.
- 32:08Yes.
- 32:09apologies to Calvin that we didn't catch it on the when it was initially announced,
- 32:13but you're right. It's there's some of the players that are like that that that even
- 32:17if they didn't necessarily stand out from the little bit that I remembered
- 32:21Once you start looking at what they did,
- 32:23it's pretty amazing. And if they're going in,
- 32:25there's a reason. So congratulations to all of them.
- 32:28What else?
- 32:29Absolutely.
- 32:29we'll switch to our basketball ~ podcast format for a minute 'cause
- 32:35you mentioned MJ News out of the Seabears from Winnipeg.
- 32:38Yeah, well you as we know, you we are a Seabears podcast,
- 32:41secondly. just quickly because this is pretty big news out of Winnipeg.
- 32:45They ~ it's CEBL Playoffs on Thursday night,
- 32:47all their semi final players and the Seabears Star Player,
- 32:51their top
- 32:53Top score was ~ assaulted at a restaurant nightclub a couple nights
- 32:58ago by the security and was actually in the hospital and he can't play
- 33:01on Thursday for the Seabears So but ~ this is like if if you know,
- 33:06if VA or or Philpot or Brady got like into an altercation at a bar and ended
- 33:11up in the hospital, that's that's the level of this.
- 33:15So hopefully
- 33:15they can pull it out. They have to play ~
- 33:19~ saskatoon.
- 33:20he is a a definite bona fada star in that league,
- 33:24I from what I've seen.
- 33:25Yes.
- 33:26It's one of those things it's unfortunate as hell.
- 33:29I don't know what to think when I see stuff like this.
- 33:32The the reporting I saw said that the team was saying he was assaulted
- 33:36by security staff at a nightclub I haven't seen anything to contradict that.
- 33:41However, I don't I honestly don't know anything about the the team,
- 33:44the player, anything like that.
- 33:46And when I posted on EH! about the his the assault fellow o ~ I think Grumpy
- 33:52Old Man or Old Grumpy Man was it at a A dot social whatever.
- 33:56posted an article from twenty four on how the Seabares had released
- 34:00him at that point because his behavior was detrimental to team morale
- 34:06well
- 34:06remember we talked
- 34:06Yeah, just
- 34:07about we gossiped about this earlier about how he and the head coach last year
- 34:10did like the couple of years did not get along.
- 34:12Yeah. ~ right, you did talk about this,
- 34:13So Yes. Always something going on in Winnipeg.
- 34:14yeah, so so I don't know. It
- 34:19Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I think it's it's it just
- 34:19I mean also there was like a fight.
- 34:21Drake was at
- 34:22this yeah, Drake was at the shooting stars game and there was a fight between
- 34:25Okay. I didn't know that one.
- 34:26the shooting stars and the honey badgers anyway.
- 34:28So concludes my CBL report.
- 34:30Yeah.
- 34:31Go watch playoffs on
- 34:31Right.
- 34:32Thursday.
- 34:33Yes. Well I I think that it's best just to wait and see what else comes
- 34:38out before we talk too much about this because it's it seems like it Yeah.
- 34:40Anyway, they havoc Savior Moon.
- 34:42It's not a total loss, guys. You'll be okay.
- 34:43Xavier
- 34:46Moon, what a great name
- 34:47Yeah.
- 34:47for a basketball player.
- 34:49He used to play
- 34:50for the Clippers
- 34:51and the raptors.
- 34:53and the Raptor Did he play for the Raptors?
- 34:54Okay.
- 34:55Yes, I did.
- 34:58yeah.
- 34:58I think he was the first Raptor to come back to the C E B L after and
- 35:01he played in Scarborough, if I remember correctly.
- 35:03That kind of kicked off the shooting stars rise if I remember correctly.
- 35:07'Cause he used to
- 35:07~ Mira no that's someone else 'cause like Xavier Moon used to play for the Stingers.
- 35:11And then he went
- 35:12Okay.
- 35:12to the Clippers. ~ you are th you are correct.
- 35:15There is another Raptor who is playing on this the shooting stars.
- 35:18I know so Jake Cole used to play for the shooting stars as well before
- 35:21he went off on it like music tour.
- 35:25Mm. sorry, I tuned out for a moment there.
- 35:27We know this.
- 35:31Okay, anyway. so far about this point in the podcast we've been talking about
- 35:36our fantasy results, but then last week MJ brought up a point of sort
- 35:40of just how everywhere the gambling advertising
- 35:46and stuff goes and how that fantasy can kind of feed into that.
- 35:49So I've decided
- 35:51in honor of that, we're I'm not gonna talk fantasy on here anymore.
- 35:54If you really care about it, I do.
- 35:56Old man does plays weekly CFL fantasy the it drops the afternoon of
- 36:00the first game of the week. You can come on over there and get my picks
- 36:04and and my strategies but we'll I think we'll drop it from this portion of the show.
- 36:08Other than to say in one last thing,
- 36:11earlier this year, I think the second week of the season,
- 36:14I lost by zero point three points,
- 36:16which was h highly disappointing
- 36:18This week I won by zero point three points.
- 36:21So the football gods were threw a makeup flag for me.
- 36:24Anything else? Come back on Thursday and we'll talk about it then.
- 36:28the only thing I would add is ~ after listening to last week's show
- 36:31all the way through, ~ of course,
- 36:32Yeah.
- 36:33of course, the ~
- 36:35I did appreciate your point of view there,
- 36:37MJ. And yeah, I noticed as well that ~ this year since I'm not that
- 36:42I wasn't doing fantasy, again I was back to vibe watching football rather than
- 36:47player watching football. Much better.
- 36:49Much better.
- 36:51Yeah, we'll see. lots of changes in the CFL next year,
- 36:54so who knows what's going to go on with all this,
- 36:56but I think this may be my last year for fantasy.
- 36:58it's like I said to you last week,
- 37:00MJ, you make the commitment for the year,
- 37:02you stick to it. Anyway, on from there.
- 37:04The the games of the week. It was a
- 37:08Interesting week. Is that a good way to describe it?
- 37:10BC had a third string quarterback in going into Winnipeg,
- 37:17which has traditionally been a hard place to win.
- 37:19And
- 37:21They won. Thirty-five nineteen.
- 37:24Now I'll let you guys talk about this a bit,
- 37:27but a couple of things that I said is watching the game,
- 37:29I it occurred to me at one point,
- 37:31this must have been what football was like before they legalized the forward pass.
- 37:35Because it was just I think Psalter had nine completions.
- 37:40And I don't know what Brown and algorithma had,
- 37:44but it was not pretty.
- 37:46There was three minutes and thirty seconds left in the first half.
- 37:49So almost the entire first and second quarters played before Condell called
- 37:55a play that allowed for a forward pass.
- 37:57He obviously either decided to listen to Brady
- 38:03or got his nose out of joint over Brady and said,
- 38:07You want to run the ball? Okay,
- 38:08we're gonna run the damn ball.
- 38:10And that's all they did for the first
- 38:13Half of the game and it worked real good between the twenties.
- 38:16And then it didn't work. And rather than going for third and short a few times,
- 38:22they kicked the field goals going,
- 38:24well, they've got a backup quarterback,
- 38:26they've got a third string in.
- 38:28All we have to do is not make any mistakes.
- 38:30yeah. Didn't work well. end of the first half,
- 38:33Salter started running and hadn't been doing much anywhere from there.
- 38:37It started running.
- 38:39Strangely enough, Winnipeg defense made no halftime adjustments.
- 38:42They came out and let him do the same thing through most of the third quarter.
- 38:46And then in the fourth quarter they tried to adjust and widened their ends
- 38:50and started making sure they weren't gonna let him get outside,
- 38:53and that just opened it up for Horvath to ~ to run inside.
- 38:57In the fourth quarter alone, he had I think it was a hundred and sixty some yards,
- 39:00two long touchdown runs. There was one that
- 39:05It reminded me of way, way, way back in the day when I w used to watch NFL football.
- 39:11Steve McNair from the Titans got flushed out of the pocket and rolled off
- 39:16to the ~ to the left and a linebacker came flying in after him
- 39:19and he basically stiff armed him and tossed the linebacker about five yards
- 39:23out of the way and made his pass.
- 39:25Well, Horvath did pretty much the same thing to Evan Holm of the ~ the bombers.
- 39:30They wa ~ one of his long runs home came in trying to make a
- 39:34a tackle and he just literally just threw him out of the way like a a ragdoll.
- 39:39And in the end that was it. They they just overran Winnipeg.
- 39:45I think they had three hundred and seventy seven yards total rushing,
- 39:48a franchise record.
- 39:50How about you, MJ? did you see this one or how what did you think of it?
- 39:53This is not a serious football team.
- 39:56This is not a serious football team.
- 39:59I'm pretty sure ~ Winnipeg.
- 40:00You have to clarify which one you're talking about here.
- 40:02Okay, just just Just to be sure.
- 40:02Winnipeg is not a serious football team.
- 40:05~
- 40:07Pretty sure Condell and Brady are fighting at practice.
- 40:11I think they're fighting in the locker room.
- 40:13He's Brady's starting to make comments in the media.
- 40:16And I think you're right. I think he would Condell was like,
- 40:18fine, you do it. And let him run it.
- 40:21And then was like, now he's gonna be like,
- 40:23see, we lost. So put up or shut
- 40:26Mm-hmm.
- 40:26up, right? Like, it was it was
- 40:29know to how to describe what happened.
- 40:32Salter just like came in there and put on a little Casey Printer show,
- 40:36huh? Like
- 40:37Yeah.
- 40:38he was throwing around. He was at my favorite Salter moment is when he was skipping.
- 40:43At the end, he was just skipping
- 40:44Yeah.
- 40:45around the field and I don't blame him.
- 40:47He was just having the best day of his life.
- 40:50he hatcher threw him a two-point conversion pass,
- 40:53like they were running. they just it felt like they they didn't do anything
- 40:59and did everything and Winnipeg had to know that they were running.
- 41:05It was not a secret and they I mean the only bright spot is like again Willie
- 41:10Jefferson.
- 41:10I was Willie's gonna make this cute like rookie quarterback cry.
- 41:14Like it's gonna happen. And he did for a little while.
- 41:16And then I mean but if your defense is running around all night after someone's
- 41:21sprinting, you you can't keep up after a while.
- 41:25I don't know. Drew Brown looks like he hurt his back.
- 41:27I was like, that looks like an L4,
- 41:29Yeah.
- 41:29L5
- 41:30disc situation there. Because he hurt it and then he kept playing and then
- 41:34he got hit again and it looked not great.
- 41:36And then El Charisma came in and looked just as bad.
- 41:39And remember how we were all like,
- 41:40what are they gonna do? They have four quarterbacks in that team.
- 41:43~ they have so many quarterbacks.
- 41:45Maybe they can get rid of some quarterbacks.
- 41:47so many quarterbacks. And now they have no quarterbacks.
- 41:51Like I don't
- 41:53I don't know what they're gonna do.
- 41:54I think Zach's coming off that sixth game.
- 41:56You said he wasn't, but I think he might be because if Brown is at all hurt,
- 42:00Elgersma did not look great. And yeah,
- 42:03when it ~ BC came out with a win that they should not have won,
- 42:07and that gave them home hope because Nathan's back to first team reps
- 42:10and they've kind of weathered that storm.
- 42:13I don't know who's is it Mike O'Shea who's calling for these conservative like
- 42:18little chip shoddy field goals because
- 42:20Yeah.
- 42:21the you should have had your like pedal to the metal on on this B C team
- 42:26and you just
- 42:26Yeah.
- 42:27like took these like very conservative choices I know you would th these rules make
- 42:31f coaches be more aggressive and d no you cannot and Mike O'Shea will
- 42:37not and yeah,
- 42:40Good job for Salter. I'm really happy.
- 42:43And good job for Horvath. Horvath proved he's not he's not just for short yardage.
- 42:47I think this what a great breakout game
- 42:49without him I would have lost badly.
- 42:51Like I said, it's not supposed to talk fantasy,
- 42:53but I would have lost real bad without him.
- 42:54I he w I think he was thirty seven point one points,
- 42:57so yeah. Thank you, Xander. How about you,
- 43:00GT? What were your thoughts?
- 43:03Well, I turned it on just as BC scored that first half touchdown late
- 43:07in the half and that and I heard about ha what had happened and I was like,
- 43:11This doesn't make any sense. This just does not make any sense.
- 43:15And then in the second half, it was like,
- 43:17Okay, the Winnipeg adjustments,
- 43:20halftime adjustments, as MJ keeps calling them,
- 43:22and it looked like they were gonna make something.
- 43:24It looked like they it was going to work.
- 43:26It looked like okay. But then they just stalled out again
- 43:29they were not prepared or not able to stop the run,
- 43:32because it was or to stop him running around.
- 43:34It was obviously that's what he was going to do.
- 43:36And yet somehow they weren't able to to either control one or the other.
- 43:40But between the two do it reminded me of those games,
- 43:43those couple of games last year from Edmonton when they had Trey Ford
- 43:47and Rankin and Leake all running amok.
- 43:51and you couldn't do anything about it,
- 43:53that's almost what it looked like.
- 43:54I can ~ understand them being slightly unprepared for a guy you net had
- 43:58no tape on other than college,
- 44:00etc. but by halftime you have tape and certainly by three quarter time
- 44:05and yet the fourth quarter was when BC really opened it up.
- 44:08So yeah, Winnipeg looks in pretty rough shape right now.
- 44:12They look in pretty rough shape
- 44:13we will see who they have behind center this week.
- 44:16And or do they have the bye. No,
- 44:19yeah, they have the bye this week,
- 44:19They have the bye this week.
- 44:20right?
- 44:21So that's that's a bit of a saving grace.
- 44:23It gives them a week to get somebody back healthy.
- 44:26or a week to give Elgersma at least a few first team reps because the
- 44:31one thing we can say as much as as bad as he looked,
- 44:34and he looked bad.
- 44:35He was not prepared to go into that game.
- 44:38That was obvious. And he had not seen the ball.
- 44:41That was also obvious. ~ anyways,
- 44:44the bye week might help them. But yeah,
- 44:45they're kinda messy. There's no doubt about it.
- 44:47They're kinda messy.
- 44:49Yes. And they they they do have four wins,
- 44:52but Ottawa, Toronto, they squeaked one out over ~ Calgary early
- 44:59in the season when Calgary still had basically the the bare bones
- 45:03of a defensive line there. And who else did they beat?
- 45:07Hamilton after knocking Bo out.
- 45:09So it's not like they've had convincing wins.
- 45:12if Ottawa had a caught one of those interceptions,
- 45:14that would it would have changed out of the four,
- 45:15Before.
- 45:15Yeah.
- 45:17it would have changed that
- 45:18game around. So yeah, you're right.
- 45:20their record flatters them, not the other way around.
- 45:23You know.
- 45:24~ th there were a couple of things.
- 45:26There was a moment that I thought you would appreciate,
- 45:28MJ. That ~ it wasn't even TSN doing their normal sort of ~
- 45:34in your face stuff taking a shot of somebody at the wrong time,
- 45:37but there was a point where BC took a a delay of game because they were punting
- 45:43and only eleven players went out.
- 45:44And after
- 45:47The penalty was called the shot was of Buck Pierce on the sidelines.
- 45:50The head coach, what does he think about this?
- 45:52And yeah, it was basically him turning a little bit and saying something
- 45:56to McKnight, the special teams coach.
- 45:58But McKnight's look was everything you would expect it to be from his resume
- 46:02as an X O lineman tough special teams coach.
- 46:07You could not have had a a better look of disgust and someone's gonna pay.
- 46:14Someone's running sprints after the game.
- 46:16Yes.
- 46:17Yeah, there's some gut busters
- 46:18Good yeah.
- 46:19happening.
- 46:20Yeah.
- 46:20That's right.
- 46:21Good thing it's flat all the way home because you're
- 46:23Yeah.
- 46:24Yeah. And then the other one was I I can't even remember who
- 46:27the sideline reporter was ~ the in ~ for TSN in the game.
- 46:32But at one point they had a him talking a little bit about
- 46:35the relationship between Brown and Colaras and and quoting Brown as saying
- 46:40the best thing about Zan.
- 46:42Even if he's not on the field,
- 46:44when we're playing, when things are out there,
- 46:47no matter whether it's going good or bad or whatever,
- 46:50he seems to know exactly what to say to me to keep me on pace and everything,
- 46:55which was good. And then they cut over to a shot of Zach on the sidelines,
- 46:59and he's standing there shuffling through basically some index cards,
- 47:03and it looks like almost like he's checking his notes.
- 47:05Okay, what do I say in this case?
- 47:07okay, here it is. Don't let that get to you,
- 47:09kid.
- 47:10Ha ha.
- 47:11My mind is strange, but that's what occurred to me.
- 47:13Anyway.
- 47:14Yeah, is
- 47:15was ~ Ryan is Ryan right?
- 47:18He's probably right on several things.
- 47:18Was he right about was he right about Drew Brown?
- 47:19Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 47:22True. I a editorial aside here,
- 47:23Yeah.
- 47:23They weren't letting Drew throw.
- 47:25He was
- 47:25not throwing anything past ten yards,
- 47:29right? Like
- 47:29You know he wasn't
- 47:30but Condo wasn't letting him. Like I said,
- 47:32there wasn't for the first almost
- 47:33Yeah.
- 47:34half a game.
- 47:35It reminds me of when they hired Tommy Condell and Speedy B posted on that post
- 47:41and was like, I hope you have a Speedy B in the backfield to run
- 47:44all these like hitched passes.
- 47:46And we're like,
- 47:47Yeah, that's exactly right. That's it.
- 47:49yeah, that's exactly what happened.
- 47:51Yeah.
- 47:52and yet Dempski is that guy and they don't use him either.
- 47:56They're not using Dempski often enough.
- 47:58Like how often are you hearing his name these days?
- 48:00Not nearly enough.
- 48:02Not nearly enough. ~ like he I don't even have him like on the stats sheet because
- 48:08it was so low
- 48:09There's problems.
- 48:09I don't know.
- 48:11There's a lot of problems and yeah.
- 48:14I'm surprised the defensive corner from there had a job today.
- 48:19Yeah.
- 48:20Would you not be firing someone after they ran three hundred and seventy seven yards
- 48:24on you?
- 48:25And
- 48:26Maybe the defensive coordinator needs to be doing some wind sprints and gut busters.
- 48:30I don't know. Yeah, not good.
- 48:33well. It happened. And ~ we'll see what happens this week.
- 48:38Who plays for BC we'll go on to the Ottawa Montreal game,
- 48:42but I will say right at the start of the pregame to the Ottawa Montreal game,
- 48:47they were talking about the night before.
- 48:48And I believe it was Lapo.
- 48:51who said, anyone who tells you they picked BC to win that game last night is lying.
- 48:56So, over to you, MJ. Time for you to respond.
- 48:59They the the BC Lions
- 49:01cut in a ~ J C from Three Down picked them too.
- 49:05And I was like, you should have cut me in picking them too 'cause I also did.
- 49:09But then he also picked Ottawa and so did I,
- 49:11so I mean it's all awash really
- 49:11Yeah. There we go. Yeah, so that was Mr.
- 49:14Abbott, wasn't it? But yeah, I
- 49:16I thought you should have a respon a chance to respond 'cause you were
- 49:19on the record ahead of time.
- 49:21Well
- 49:21and I said that it was gonna be Salter versus Brown and
- 49:25Yeah.
- 49:26we'll s right. Like and I said I said last week that Winnipeg
- 49:29was messy and everyone's like,
- 49:31Well, maybe and I'm like, ~ yes
- 49:32Yeah.
- 49:33they are But but I just I don't understand.
- 49:35I don't understand why anyone thought Tommy Candell was a good hire,
- 49:39but I say this every week. But it continues to be true.
- 49:43I just wanted to give you your chance to do your little happy dance.
- 49:47Yes, my
- 49:47Ha ha
- 49:47ha.
- 49:47one
- 49:48~ my one like underdog correct pick this season.
- 49:52Good j good job, me.
- 49:55Okay. But speaking of the game,
- 49:58Montreal 34 at Ottawa 13.
- 50:02And again, story of the game.
- 50:07Ottawa was inside the Montreal ten yard line four times.
- 50:12I don't remember if they kicked field goals on any of them,
- 50:15but none of them were touchdowns.
- 50:16So again, Maier as I said a couple of times this season.
- 50:20Fifty one percent of the time looks like a good starting quarterback.
- 50:23He made some nice throws, he got things moving some,
- 50:25but they just cannot finish it off.
- 50:28Not at all.
- 50:30In the end that was that was their downfall.
- 50:32if you score you know, even on a cup couple of those four,
- 50:37you're within a one score game.
- 50:39But if you keep going down there and just things go wrong and wrong and wrong,
- 50:43like I said last week Trey Ford,
- 50:44it's not just all on mare. The team is making stupid mistakes.
- 50:48They're just they look like an O and seven team.
- 50:52How did how did you feel about it,
- 50:54GT?
- 50:55Well, I agree with you, except that I think that again,
- 50:57I thought it was Mare's best game of the year.
- 51:00He's had a he moved the ball. he threw with some authority.
- 51:03he threw relatively mid to long well.
- 51:06and then I thought it was just bad play calling when they got down into those into
- 51:10those situations. I've often said their their biggest weakness
- 51:14is their offensive line. They're just not mean enough.
- 51:17They're just not
- 51:19tough enough on that offensive line to make those goal line stances and
- 51:23or to push people over to get them into those situations.
- 51:26But I thought those were some bad calls if they had a scored one you said
- 51:30old man that they would have been a one score game.
- 51:32No, they would have been winning because that game was close until
- 51:36the last you know, till late before Montreal finally blew it open.
- 51:40That score kind of flatters Montreal to be honest.
- 51:43Yeah.
- 51:43~ it
- 51:44Ottawa is just like, yeah, they're you know,
- 51:47they're a mess. They are a mess.
- 51:49And they they need to start winning and until they start winning,
- 51:52they're gonna continue to lose.
- 51:53There's j it's a silly thing to say,
- 51:55but that is basically where they're at.
- 51:58Again, it's Edmonton from two years ago.
- 52:01And it's that's, you know, until they get to Edmonton from last year
- 52:05and get at least on the right path,
- 52:07they're gonna continue to look like this.
- 52:09And they're gonna continue to go through coaches and players and everything else,
- 52:14and maybe even a co a head coach and general manager,
- 52:17~ until they finally get something figured out.
- 52:21you might not even know who it's gonna be.
- 52:23There is a nucleus of players there that are very good.
- 52:27~ and then there's
- 52:28Mm.
- 52:28a bunch of guys that are really good players but somehow aren't ever gonna work
- 52:33in that system
- 52:34Well, s speaking of the head coach thing,
- 52:38it's awful hard probably for a next year or two to do anything about Dinwiiddie
- 52:42because of the coaching cap. But if they're going to,
- 52:45perhaps the bombshell of the weekend was in the pregame show they were talking
- 52:49to smiling Hank Burris, who said he's been sticking down in the States with
- 52:54his coaching work while his son's in high school,
- 52:56'cause his son's a kicker that's doing very well and he's working with him.
- 53:01But that his son is graduating high school this year and Hank is now ready
- 53:04to come back to the CFL. So who knows?
- 53:07Maybe the Ottawa Red Blacks will be coached next year by Smilin' Hank.
- 53:12Could be.
- 53:13can't afford to.
- 53:15Any thoughts you've got from the game,
- 53:16MJ, or if you want Hank back.
- 53:17Well, first of all, they won't be
- 53:19Well they well they can't afford to hire him next year,
- 53:22so it doesn't matter. they I I don't know who plays this terrible off the by.
- 53:26I'm not sure I've seen a worse team off the bye.
- 53:29Ed Henry Burris was there. You played like this in front of Henry Burris.
- 53:33And it was like the whatever they had a big celebration with a bunch
- 53:36of old players and stuff there,
- 53:37and and Henry was there and this is how you played.
- 53:40Short yardage continues to be a complete and utter disaster.
- 53:45I I don't
- 53:45You think?
- 53:46understand how it can still be so bad.
- 53:49It's week eight. I truly don't get it.
- 53:52I
- 53:53Yeah, it's not like they're failing at one attempt and just keep trying it,
- 53:58It's not like, okay, we're gonna keep running that quarterback sneak until
- 54:01we get it right. They are trying every different way you could possibly think
- 54:06of of getting a yard when they need it and failing at every of them.
- 54:09Every one of them.
- 54:10So
- 54:10in baseball you would call this the yips.
- 54:13And you have short yardage yips.
- 54:15You have goal line yips.
- 54:15Never say the yips.
- 54:17And there's nothing you can really do about it except for keep trying.
- 54:23Yeah.
- 54:24You know, the Alouettes like they okay,
- 54:27so Justin Hardy basically got murdered on the field,
- 54:29and it was a objectionable conduct call.
- 54:33And then the Alouettes challenged it,
- 54:35and I was like, you are joking.
- 54:38You are challenging this call.
- 54:40I'm like, this is ridiculous. Like,
- 54:42look at this replay. He's being murdered.
- 54:44And Geno Lewis got called in on illegal block and just negated it.
- 54:49And
- 54:50Yeah.
- 54:50That that that's how it goes when your team's not playing well and you got the yips.
- 54:54~ Yeah, and
- 54:55Yeah. Exactly. If I
- 54:57if I I'm sorry, sorry, MJ, if I can jump in.
- 54:59I thought that that was one of the moments of the weekend that I enjoyed
- 55:03the most because coaches make such stupid challenges all the time.
- 55:08And yeah, Hardy made the catch,
- 55:10got hit hard, fumbled the ball,
- 55:13or might have fumbled, but it turns out he was down by contact.
- 55:16Because it's a potential turnover,
- 55:18they automatically review it.
- 55:20And then Dinwiddie comes out and throws the challenge flag,
- 55:22and my immediate thought is it's another one of these idiot coaches saying,
- 55:25look at it again, and they're gonna lose the challenge.
- 55:28But no, you're right, he had something completely different.
- 55:31He was challenging a downfield blocking which took that ten yard gain that Hardy
- 55:36got at that point and turned it into a ten yard loss,
- 55:39second and twenty. I thought that was a brilliant challenge.
- 55:42Anyway, go ahead.
- 55:42Yeah, good job, Jason.
- 55:45yeah, the alouettes like ~ boy.
- 55:47They only needed they alo
- 55:50Alex Allen only threw to four receivers and these.
- 55:53That's all he needed. That's all he needed for his 420 yards.
- 55:57And somebody on Blue Sky was like commenting about how much he they hate
- 56:01him because he's like such a little cocky SOB.
- 56:03And I was like, yeah, you're right.
- 56:04He is on the field. He is like the worst.
- 56:08When he's playing your team, it is the worst to have him playing because
- 56:12he is beaking at your bench, he's beaking at your fans,
- 56:15he's just like just being a jerk all over.
- 56:18And every player on that
- 56:20And if he's on your team, you love him too.
- 56:24Yeah. And my last note is that Lewis Ward came back and put that in your pipe
- 56:30and smoke it, Ryan. I went two for two on my field goals.
- 56:34And if you don't want Davis Alexander to be acting cocky towards your team,
- 56:38just don't give
- 56:38Shut down.
- 56:39him the opportunity.
- 56:40You gotta shut down because when the he is shut down,
- 56:43they are awful. And very,
- 56:45Yeah.
- 56:46very beatable. If he gets a little groove and he's beakin' a mouthing
- 56:49and running around, then you're done.
- 56:51Good night.
- 56:52this may be a sign of the fact that I'm mellowing with old age,
- 56:56who knows. But this is the exact behavior that a decade ago made
- 57:01me absolutely livid at Bo Levi.
- 57:04And now I'm just enjoying it with Alexander.
- 57:08Mind ya I'm enjoying it or I was enjoying it with Bo this year too before
- 57:11he got hurt, 'cause he had got a lot of that swagger back himself with his
- 57:16A lot of his little postings post game and whatnot.
- 57:19Fine.
- 57:20Yes. I want to see more players doing that.
- 57:23Alright, ~ so let's talk then Calgary and Hamilton.
- 57:26And ~ to me the there was an obvious difference in this game.
- 57:32Calgary brought an offense and Hamilton didn't,
- 57:36unfortunately. Calgary did Calgary did what Calgary's doing they have very
- 57:42quietly
- 57:44climbed into a spot where people have stopped talking about the top three teams
- 57:48in the league and started talking about the top four.
- 57:50they deserve it. they didn't play mistake free football,
- 57:54but they played good, solid football,
- 57:56and they just kept doing what they do consistently.
- 58:00And Hamilton could not figure out an offense that would work against them,
- 58:03whether it was Trey Ford or after he fumbled in the
- 58:08end of the first quarter at towards the end of the half they put Harrison Frost in.
- 58:12Didn't get a whole lot better from there.
- 58:15You know, they were just unfortunately outmatched,
- 58:19I thought. Wha how about you, GT?
- 58:23~ well a little couple of little things about this game.
- 58:26First of all, it was the first game I was able to take my grandchildren to.
- 58:29So it was Yes. and Yeah,
- 58:29good. Hey. Gotta build that family stuff.
- 58:34and they are both ~ now TI Cat fans 'cause he was he was a Tiger
- 58:37Yay.
- 58:39Cat fan and he had decided last year and she had not made her decision until earlier
- 58:44then during the game she confirmed that she is now a Tiger Cat fan.
- 58:48So that was terrific. It was ~ it was a smoking hot day.
- 58:51It was twenty eight feeling like thirty five.
- 58:53sun through the cloud the humidity which made it even worse.
- 58:57And we were just sweating. But the most important thing about the game
- 59:01was not only did I get to take those two to the game for the first time,
- 59:06but I we also got to be on the field with the flag.
- 59:09We got to be flag holders.
- 59:11so that was tremendous because that's the first time I've ever
- 59:15had the opportunity to do that in
- 59:16Yeah.
- 59:17any of the stadiums I've been to,
- 59:18in any of the games I've been to.
- 59:20So I was more excited than they were,
- 59:21of course. ~ but
- 59:22Hey, gotta like it.
- 59:23Exp exploit them cute kids.
- 59:26Absolutely.
- 59:26Nothing like two children. Yeah.
- 59:26It's absolutely
- 59:29So so they ~ so anyways, they had a great time and there and as I said
- 59:34to to my grandson, I said, Look,
- 59:36it's the perfect day. It's beautiful,
- 59:37it's sunny, you you're at the tiger cats,
- 59:39you you got to run out the flag,
- 59:41you got everything, your team's gonna lose,
- 59:43it's gonna be the perfect day.
- 59:45Ha ha.
- 59:46And he just looked at me like So anyway,
- 59:47Well, tea teaching that Ti- cat culture early.
- 59:48the game itself. Yeah.
- 59:51did they learn the chant? Did they learn the tyque?
- 59:52~ they knew ~
- 59:54absolutely they had the Oski Wee Wee down pat.
- 59:57They had it down. They
- 59:57Tá.
- 59:58knew it. So yeah, they were waiting for Pigskin Pete to come over.
- 1:00:01so they could join in. the game itself though,
- 1:00:05Calgary started off tremendously and then went to sleep.
- 1:00:08Then they finished the half tremendously,
- 1:00:10came out of the third quarter,
- 1:00:12started tremendously, went to sleep,
- 1:00:14and then finished the game tremendously.
- 1:00:16But had really big lulls in between.
- 1:00:18And midway through the second quarter,
- 1:00:20I was like, we're letting Hamilton hang around.
- 1:00:23There's no reason for Hamilton to be in this game,
- 1:00:26but they're only down four points.
- 1:00:28And that's not a good sign. it just felt a game that could slip away because
- 1:00:33I will say this Hamilton's got a very good defense.
- 1:00:37And they just
- 1:00:37Yes, they do.
- 1:00:38they did their job.
- 1:00:41~ and they really put Mills,
- 1:00:44you know, until late in the game,
- 1:00:46he was not able to rip off any big ones at all.
- 1:00:48They had him bottled up entirely.
- 1:00:50McAllister got the one the one decent run himself.
- 1:00:54But other than that, ~ Hamilton's defense did a very good job against the run.
- 1:00:59VA that first pass pass to Purset was just obviously a broken coverage,
- 1:01:03but that was so beautiful to watch.
- 1:01:05It was like I went crazy
- 1:01:05It was nice.
- 1:01:07and the guys around me were like,
- 1:01:08you know.
- 1:01:09~ so anyways, I was giving grief.
- 1:01:12Why not?
- 1:01:12Yeah.
- 1:01:13but then they just stopped. They didn't do anything else until like
- 1:01:16two or three minutes left in the half.
- 1:01:18And the same thing in the f in the second half until late in the game
- 1:01:21in the fourth quarter. I think that score kind of flatters Calgary.
- 1:01:26Hamilton got a couple of, you know,
- 1:01:29touchdowns that are that were like,
- 1:01:30Well I
- 1:01:31Yeah, whatever.
- 1:01:31mean Frost threw to Moncrief like just flew it
- 1:01:35Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know,
- 1:01:36Yeah.
- 1:01:37perfect.
- 1:01:38right so I mean there was there's a few things like that.
- 1:01:41Yeah. Yeah, there was definitely
- 1:01:41Yeah.
- 1:01:42that. There was definitely some of that going on,
- 1:01:45for sure. I thought it was a very good game,
- 1:01:47but it wasn't a game where I felt like there weren't things to fix.
- 1:01:50There was quite a few things to fix coming out of that game.
- 1:01:54Yes.
- 1:01:55Yeah.
- 1:01:55I
- 1:01:56I thought it was very cute they they caught it on the television that
- 1:01:59~ McAllister after his touchdown was running off apologizing to the Hamilton fans.
- 1:02:05I'm back. I'm sorry I didn't
- 1:02:05Yeah. it's me,
- 1:02:08I'm so sorry Mike.
- 1:02:10Yeah.
- 1:02:10I was ~ and I and I
- 1:02:12and I did think just in your in your honor,
- 1:02:15MJ, that the TSN shady moment of shady moments was coming out of halftime just like
- 1:02:21a full minute of Trey Ford standing on the sideline.
- 1:02:24Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:02:24it was like not even a brief glance,
- 1:02:26just like no, f let's focus
- 1:02:28Yes.
- 1:02:28on Trey.
- 1:02:29Just standing on the sideline,
- 1:02:31perhaps watching, his chance slip away.
- 1:02:34Because that's what it felt
- 1:02:35Yeah.
- 1:02:36that's what it felt like this could be his
- 1:02:37Yeah.
- 1:02:38chance slipping away.
- 1:02:39they kind of got the feeling that that was probably the last time he
- 1:02:41It it could be
- 1:02:42was on the field.
- 1:02:43~
- 1:02:43Yeah.
- 1:02:44they sh after the game, I do have things to say at the game,
- 1:02:46but after the game, VA went over and like hugged him,
- 1:02:50and they actually talked for quite a bit.
- 1:02:52And I'm like, Trey, just get on the team bus.
- 1:02:55Get
- 1:02:55Well.
- 1:02:55on that Stampede team bus and just go back with VA and Jarius Jackson.
- 1:02:59Yeah. Yeah. Just sneak into
- 1:03:02someone's suitcase, yeah. No.
- 1:03:04Yeah, just just they won't even
- 1:03:06notice you. Just like sit in the back.
- 1:03:08Like you'll be okay. this is the thing,
- 1:03:10he was trying to do too much. So Trey had that hurdle.
- 1:03:13He tried to hurdle someone.
- 1:03:16And then he got the ball knocked out and fumbled,
- 1:03:18and they picked it up and ran.
- 1:03:19And then after that, he got benched.
- 1:03:21Actually, my sister texted me.
- 1:03:22She's like, I'm sorry, did Trey just try to hurtle someone and that's
- 1:03:25why he's benched? I'm like, yes.
- 1:03:26My dad was camping and called me and saw that Frost was in,
- 1:03:30was like, what's happening? Did Trey get hurt?
- 1:03:32I'm like, no, he got benched.
- 1:03:34And as much as like I was upset about it,
- 1:03:37I'm always the one that's like,
- 1:03:38if they're not playing well, they should be sat down.
- 1:03:40And I'm like, well, you weren't playing well.
- 1:03:42And Scott Milanovich's number one rule is ball security.
- 1:03:45He has benched Bo over ball security.
- 1:03:48Don't think he won't bench you.
- 1:03:49he did let Harrison Frost throw two very bad interceptions and did not bench Frost.
- 1:03:53Yep. Wow, what are you what are you gonna do?
- 1:03:54And I actually told Frost was one.
- 1:03:55Yeah, and a and a fumble that went for six.
- 1:03:57Go to what are you gonna
- 1:03:58do? Go to Jacobala?
- 1:03:59who knows what he'll do this week for a starting quarterback.
- 1:04:01Yeah. Yeah. I I think
- 1:04:02But if he puts
- 1:04:03Yeah.
- 1:04:04Frost back i in there starting this week after those two,
- 1:04:08then that tells me the whole narrative about but he doesn't put up with turnovers
- 1:04:13is just bullshit. It tells me that he's not doesn't want to give Trey a chance.
- 1:04:16Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:04:18We'll see.
- 1:04:18Yeah.
- 1:04:19I hope I'm wrong. I hope he starts Trey 'cause I think he gives them their best
- 1:04:21~ no, it's gonna ~
- 1:04:21Yes.
- 1:04:22chance.
- 1:04:23I would put money down on it's Harrison Frost.
- 1:04:26Yeah, I think you're probably right,
- 1:04:26I would put money.
- 1:04:27but it also tells me tells me a lot.
- 1:04:28I think
- 1:04:30There's
- 1:04:30a lot more in that statement. Yeah.
- 1:04:32Go ahead.
- 1:04:32They need to run
- 1:04:34~ Jeremiah Mazzoli, Dane Evans,
- 1:04:35quarterback system till Bo is back.
- 1:04:37With Frost and Ford. That is what you should do to weather this storm.
- 1:04:42Yeah, th there is something
- 1:04:44to that. they don't do it though.
- 1:04:46There the there's this narrative that you have to give a quarterback
- 1:04:51the reins and he has to know it's his team.
- 1:04:54And I don't know that I buy into that.
- 1:04:56back in the day back when Austin was was quarterbacking for the riders.
- 1:05:03They also had Burgess and for a while there it was a kind of a thing that well,
- 1:05:06which one is it? 'Cause they're both good.
- 1:05:08my stance the whole time was you start Burgess in every game,
- 1:05:12and then as soon as he throws an interception,
- 1:05:15you pull him. And you can't do that,
- 1:05:17you'll destroy his confidence.
- 1:05:18I don't care. Once he threw an interception,
- 1:05:20he threw four. But until that happened,
- 1:05:23his confidence was huge and he he was putting up big leads So I said,
- 1:05:28put him in.
- 1:05:29He throws one, you pull him out,
- 1:05:30you put Austin in to finish the game,
- 1:05:32and then you go back and you to Burgess and you say,
- 1:05:34And you're starting next week.
- 1:05:36You run a system like that, but I could be wrong,
- 1:05:36So here's here's the difference here.
- 1:05:39These are neither
- 1:05:40I don't get paid to coach.
- 1:05:41these are neither your your bona fide starter.
- 1:05:44They're not
- 1:05:45Yeah.
- 1:05:45your two backups till Bo's back,
- 1:05:47and everyone is of the understanding of that.
- 1:05:49So I don't understand why you're not just running play packages for both of them.
- 1:05:52Anyway, I am not the Ti-Cat's head coach.
- 1:05:55a few other notes. Trey Ford got hit in the head on a slide and there was no call.
- 1:06:02So I'm not quite sure what the penalties are this year for quarterback sliding.
- 1:06:07And again, I am of the opinion that there is a level of quarterback eliteness that
- 1:06:13works its way from top to bottom,
- 1:06:14and Trey is not on very high on that list.
- 1:06:16And you know what? Neither's BA,
- 1:06:17but I've already talked about that.
- 1:06:19June McCatney, welcome to Hamilton.
- 1:06:22He missed a kick that he really should have had.
- 1:06:24And I was like, I was like, well.
- 1:06:24Yeah, no kidding. That was threatening
- 1:06:27me out.
- 1:06:27Welcome
- 1:06:27to kicking in Hamilton. The swirl the wind swirls there,
- 1:06:31a little tricky. And ~ I think that was his first time kicking in Hamilton,
- 1:06:35so he will know next time. Jamal Peters had VA intercepted twice.
- 1:06:41Yeah.
- 1:06:41Once he like got the ball ripped out of his hand.
- 1:06:44The second time he had that interception,
- 1:06:46I was like, that's it! VA's interception,
- 1:06:48he's got it. And then Fox had hit VA in the helmet with his helmet
- 1:06:54and negated that interception.
- 1:06:55I did not see that because I had taken that moment to excuse myself from
- 1:07:00the stands and then I heard it in the thing and I was like,
- 1:07:04and then I heard penalty and I went,
- 1:07:06that's good, that's against them.
- 1:07:07Yeah.
- 1:07:07And right
- 1:07:08away it continues because when he threw that touchdown to Brissette,
- 1:07:12I wasn't jumping up and down and yelling touchdown.
- 1:07:14I was jumping up and yelling up and down,
- 1:07:16twenty four, twenty four, and only two people
- 1:07:18Yeah, yeah.
- 1:07:18Yeah.
- 1:07:19knew what I meant.
- 1:07:20like Wheatfall had that contested catch that was really like what a crazy catch that
- 1:07:25was too. Like you couldn't have the DB couldn't have played that any better,
- 1:07:28but so there was some nice things there.
- 1:07:30the Tycats returners and one return ran into each other,
- 1:07:33and
- 1:07:34Mm-hmm.
- 1:07:34that sums up the game vibe for me.
- 1:07:39I've seen some people on social media going well be a any further
- 1:07:43on the record shouldn't count because he was intercepted.
- 1:07:45A penalty doesn't shouldn't negate that well.
- 1:07:47I haven't gone back and looked at this,
- 1:07:49but I'm pretty damn sure that if you looked at the other people that
- 1:07:53are that he surpassed for the record and that are up there,
- 1:07:55they probably had one or two called back during their runs as well.
- 1:07:59'Cause it's part of
- 1:07:59Yeah.
- 1:08:00football.
- 1:08:01You know, so it it just happens.
- 1:08:01Yeah. Those are just th you you yeah.
- 1:08:02And yeah.
- 1:08:03Don't hit people on the helmet with your helmet.
- 1:08:06the last thing that I will do,
- 1:08:07I shouldn't I probably don't need to be well,
- 1:08:11not an apologist, but a ~ a defender of Starver's Katsantonis,
- 1:08:17but I am really, really annoyed at how many people are blasting him this week
- 1:08:23for the brissette touchdown. what a busted coverage.
- 1:08:26He jumped on a short pass and
- 1:08:28He just let himself get run right by.
- 1:08:30Yes he did, because Hamilton was on a full blitz.
- 1:08:32And you gotta expect the balls coming out fast.
- 1:08:36So he made the right play. He came downhill at a pass that didn't happen,
- 1:08:40and then he couldn't make the hit and Brissett got open.
- 1:08:43Still wasn't a bad play on his part.
- 1:08:45If there's anything, it was the fault of the D line and the the blitzers
- 1:08:49not getting to VA in time, giving him enough time to make a thirty yard pass
- 1:08:54in a blitz situation.
- 1:08:55~ to be fair, Brissett's
- 1:08:56So I don't think that was a busted coverage.
- 1:08:58Yeah.
- 1:08:59made a quite a few DBs look silly this year.
- 1:09:03Yes he did. I'm not saying no credit to Brissett.
- 1:09:06It was a great route to get open like that.
- 1:09:08But I don't I'm just saying I don't think I don't think it's fair
- 1:09:12to to burn Katsantonis saying he made a terrible decision.
- 1:09:15I think he made a good decision and got beat by a better play.
- 1:09:21There were worse decisions made that game.
- 1:09:23Much, much
- 1:09:24There were
- 1:09:24worse.
- 1:09:25Yes. All right. So
- 1:09:27Maybe Henry Burris will
- 1:09:28come and coach the Hamilton Tiger Cats.
- 1:09:32It's a possibility too. I'm not sure how long Scott's contract
- 1:09:33Hmm. Would not be sad.
- 1:09:36runs did they extend him, I don't recall.
- 1:09:38I don't care. I've disassociated from that information
- 1:09:41He's
- 1:09:42Probably closer to the end of his contract than Dinwiddie is.
- 1:09:46Yes, that I know. And like O'Shea
- 1:09:47Mind you, if Bo hadn't got hurt we probably wouldn't
- 1:09:49be complaining about Scott so much 'cause they'd probably be somewhere
- 1:09:53up there with Montreal too, so
- 1:09:53Yes, what a great
- 1:09:55coach when you can only coach one type of quarterback.
- 1:09:58One specific quarterback. Just one.
- 1:10:00So great. Alright.
- 1:10:02Yes. I would rant about that more,
- 1:10:05but I'd be a broken record. I've been saying that for a few weeks now.
- 1:10:09So Saskatchewan at Edmonton.
- 1:10:13Two hours of football. What was it?
- 1:10:1667 minutes of lightning delay.
- 1:10:18And in essence, we had a 62 62 tie.
- 1:10:23Yes.
- 1:10:24They each won one game. They both scored 62 points.
- 1:10:27It was another dogfight. It wasn't.
- 1:10:29It looked sloppier than the one a week ago in in Saskatchewan.
- 1:10:34But it was just.
- 1:10:38Two very good teams playing each other,
- 1:10:40I thought. And again, it's the best home and home series I've seen in quite a while.
- 1:10:44And I really, really hope the season plays out so that when their third game now,
- 1:10:51when the deciding game of their series in the last week of the season is there,
- 1:10:54I hope that's for first place.
- 1:10:56~ you couldn't ask for a better scenario.
- 1:10:59few things that we could talk about,
- 1:11:01but basically, yeah, it was just scrappy and
- 1:11:05This time Saskatchewan managed to pull off the wind.
- 1:11:09I didn't think they looked great in it.
- 1:11:10their offense to me looked like they couldn't figure out
- 1:11:13the Edmonton defense through a good chunk of it,
- 1:11:16like they were struggling bad.
- 1:11:17Both teams took bad penalties.
- 1:11:20I've seen complaining about some of the penalties that Edmonton took late
- 1:11:23in the game when Saskatchewan was trying to run out the clock,
- 1:11:26but Saskatchewan also took a couple of really stupid
- 1:11:30roughing the passer penalties.
- 1:11:31And
- 1:11:32Mm-hmm.
- 1:11:33I don't mean that stupid in that they shouldn't have been called.
- 1:11:35I mean that stupid in that they were a fully justified call and it was just
- 1:11:40a dumb move by the players in question.
- 1:11:42What did you see, MJ?
- 1:11:46Well, the s the stupidest penalty award of the night goes to Taylor of the Elks,
- 1:11:52who had a one misconduct for contacting an official and
- 1:11:56a second misconduct disqualification for embellishment
- 1:12:01He did the feel.
- 1:12:01Yes. Yep.
- 1:12:01in the first quarter. He was a FIFA
- 1:12:04pla a men's FIFA player. Like
- 1:12:06Yeah.
- 1:12:08it's so
- 1:12:12It should have. It was ridiculous.
- 1:12:13~ yeah.
- 1:12:14It was totally
- 1:12:15Embarrassing
- 1:12:15it was t it was
- 1:12:18it was totally ridiculous. It was it was
- 1:12:20How embarrassing like
- 1:12:23like I was r I was rolling around as much as he was.
- 1:12:26Only mine was with laughter.
- 1:12:28Yep. Yep.
- 1:12:29You know.
- 1:12:30I just way to put your team in a in a bad spot in the first quarter.
- 1:12:35yeah, ~ then there was a elks also took a too many men penalty and I was like,
- 1:12:40I'm sorry, I think you meant riders,
- 1:12:42but no, it was elks. Little there's a little that's a little rider joke for you.
- 1:12:44Yes. Which at an important time 'cause the riders had fumbled on that play
- 1:12:46Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:12:50on the goal line. So yeah, a little
- 1:12:51Yeah.
- 1:12:51Yeah. ~
- 1:12:53reprieve.
- 1:12:54Conley and then another another Instagram worthy thing that's making
- 1:12:59the rounds is Conley's Backwards Hurdle.
- 1:13:01Yeah.
- 1:13:02Yes. If you haven't seen that,
- 1:13:03That was the one of the plays of the year.
- 1:13:05go look at it.
- 1:13:06It was beautifully executed. Beautifully executed.
- 1:13:10Yes. Yes. I
- 1:13:11It probably can never
- 1:13:12be repeated, but fantastic.
- 1:13:15I
- 1:13:16I posted after that I scored Conley nine point eight for his single axle middle
- 1:13:22run and got a few laughs in it and got a lecture from the goddess on that
- 1:13:27is not an axle jump. That was not even close to it.
- 1:13:29It could have been this kind of jump,
- 1:13:30it could have been that kind of jump,
- 1:13:32but it's not an axle. You know Yes.
- 1:13:34She's she's obvious she's the Russian
- 1:13:34She is correct. She is correct.
- 1:13:36I know where she is.
- 1:13:38she's the Russian judge in the house,
- 1:13:40I assume.
- 1:13:41~
- 1:13:41Yeah. yeah. She
- 1:13:43know she knows her figure skating stuff and
- 1:13:44never get Oooooh
- 1:13:48We wanna talk
- 1:13:48Yes.
- 1:13:49figure skating culture. ~
- 1:13:53You know, and also like I'll let you guys talk because I I was just actually just
- 1:13:57I didn't really take a lot of notes in this game.
- 1:13:58I just enjoying it. But it was really nice to have the upper deck open.
- 1:14:02That was really nice. we were at the Stingers game on the Friday night
- 1:14:06and they were playing the Saskatoon Mamba and there was a lot
- 1:14:09of people from Saskatchewan at the game,
- 1:14:11so nice for them because they got to go to see their team play basketball
- 1:14:13and then go to football the next day.
- 1:14:15So that worked out really well.
- 1:14:16it was nice to have some extra people in the Stingers.
- 1:14:19they were sitting behind.
- 1:14:20Me though, so and all around me.
- 1:14:21I'm not sure how much I enjoyed that personally,
- 1:14:23but it was nice for
- 1:14:24Ha ha ha.
- 1:14:25them. ~ if you were surprised by the thunderstorms in Edmonton,
- 1:14:29jokes on you. This has been our entire summer,
- 1:14:31so I hope you brought a
- 1:14:32So
- 1:14:32little game, card game to play or something because you should
- 1:14:34not have been surprised there was a thunderstorm rain,
- 1:14:37like lightning delay.
- 1:14:39And G T ~
- 1:14:39And Calgary Calgary would like a
- 1:14:41little word about who's gonna be top in the West,
- 1:14:43cause I think Edmonton probably should have won this game.
- 1:14:46They took s yeah, get like too many stupid penalties.
- 1:14:48I think Calgary's gonna be right up there with them,
- 1:14:52if not ahead of s a couple of these teams if they keep playing the way they do.
- 1:14:56Yeah, well we talked last week about if Edmonton won that game,
- 1:14:59there was very little chance of Saskat you know,
- 1:15:02barring something catastrophic,
- 1:15:04Mm-hmm.
- 1:15:04like an injury
- 1:15:05all things considered, there if Edmonton had won that game,
- 1:15:08there was very little chance of Saskatchewan overtaking them for first place
- 1:15:13in the season. But we also said there's the Calgary home and home
- 1:15:19in Labour Day and
- 1:15:20In the rematch after that, that could make a big difference in who ends up
- 1:15:25in the at the top of the West division.
- 1:15:28so Jeremy O'Day, if you're listening,
- 1:15:29~ Dean Faithful's ~ season wraps up here in the next week or two in Paris.
- 1:15:34So maybe you want to give him a call.
- 1:15:35Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:15:37I hope so because that was ugly.
- 1:15:39That was one of the that
- 1:15:40That was ugly.
- 1:15:41But
- 1:15:41was one of the ugliest kicks I've ever seen,
- 1:15:43that one that he missed. That was brutal.
- 1:15:44Yeah. Yeah. ~
- 1:15:45~ the the Elks also
- 1:15:47moved a pl a global kicker to their retired list.
- 1:15:50So I think there's a there's two options.
- 1:15:53Okay, there we go then, yeah, 'cause 'cause yeah,
- 1:15:55at this point Saskatchewan is certainly taking the foot out of football.
- 1:15:59I don't know. Any other thoughts on that,
- 1:16:02GT?
- 1:16:03No, it was it was again, I thought it was a a a a really good game to watch.
- 1:16:08I enjoyed it. I thought again both teams showed that ~ that they
- 1:16:13are contenders. I don't think that either team showed that they're dominant.
- 1:16:19like I didn't
- 1:16:19No no.
- 1:16:19think the week before either team showed that they were dominant.
- 1:16:23one team won, the other team could have just as easily have won.
- 1:16:26I agree with you guys, I didn't hear that portion,
- 1:16:28but I agree with you guys a hundred percent that the Labour Day be all four game,
- 1:16:33all four teams are gonna be, you know,
- 1:16:35really gonna need that to come out of that.
- 1:16:37~ at least with a split.
- 1:16:40if you lose both games, any one of the four teams,
- 1:16:43including Winnipeg, you're done.
- 1:16:45Like that's it.
- 1:16:46First, second or out of the playoffs for any one of those four teams,
- 1:16:49because if Calgary is able to take two from Edmonton,
- 1:16:53they're right in the thick of it for first place.
- 1:16:55if Saskatchewan takes two for from Winnipeg,
- 1:16:58they're the same. And if Edmonton takes two from from Calgary,
- 1:17:01they've got it locked up pretty much.
- 1:17:03So yeah, it's yeah, I think that weekend's gonna be a very fun
- 1:17:07one for those reasons.
- 1:17:08Absolutely. they both took bad both teams took bad penalties.
- 1:17:11Saskatchewan had seven for eighty yards and Edmonton had ten for ninety two yards.
- 1:17:17So there was nerves out there.
- 1:17:19There was some stuff that people pushing a little too hard and and Cody said that
- 1:17:25in his postgame interview. He said he thought that some of the young players were
- 1:17:30playing a little tight and
- 1:17:33That he was trying to tell them it's not the playoffs.
- 1:17:35It doesn't matter that much in the end.
- 1:17:37We're still back next week. we can deal with this.
- 1:17:39But that was most of it. Although the one thing that I will say
- 1:17:43is the radio broadcast, CKRM picked Mike Rose as the defensive player of the game.
- 1:17:50And Mike Rose has been around this game for a long time and he's a very good player.
- 1:17:56So I'm sure it's not the first time he's had a radio interview,
- 1:18:00but it sounded like it. It was just it was such an incredible interview.
- 1:18:06It wasn't guarded at all. It was just pure joy.
- 1:18:09And not even joy at the win, but just joy at playing in that kind
- 1:18:14of a football environment and being able to do what he's gonna what he
- 1:18:18was able to do. It I
- 1:18:19I co I was smiling the whole way through it.
- 1:18:21So I'm gonna throw in the show notes if anybody cares.
- 1:18:24a link to the ~ the podcast version of that post game show.
- 1:18:28Hit about the ten minute mark and just take a couple of minutes to listen
- 1:18:31to the interview with Mike Rose.
- 1:18:33It's well worth your time. And I think that's about all there is to
- 1:18:37say on the games. Again, I said it last week.
- 1:18:39I think this week sort of echoes it.
- 1:18:43Well, that was fun, but
- 1:18:45Did we learn anything? 'Cause I don't I don't think so.
- 1:18:50So given that, guess who's got the unenviable job of putting
- 1:18:56out the GT Barnum official CFL Outsiders Power Rankings?
- 1:19:01All right. So I have I did not write down last week's.
- 1:19:05I simply sent them to you guys and you posted them.
- 1:19:08Thank you for that. I appreciate it.
- 1:19:09But I have no recommend recollection of what I did.
- 1:19:12and I did not write anything down from this week because,
- 1:19:16as I said, I am totally unprepared.
- 1:19:18So these are completely off the top.
- 1:19:20so even more so. ~ but I am going to put Ebonton back at number one.
- 1:19:28I'm gonna put Montreal at two,
- 1:19:30Saskatchewan at three, Calgary at four.
- 1:19:34~ and then after that, who knows?
- 1:19:37Calgary at four. I'm gonna put Toronto at five,
- 1:19:41BC at six, and that's a big jump from last week.
- 1:19:46I know, but they won and they're getting Nathan back,
- 1:19:49so that's gonna put them at six.
- 1:19:52Ottawa at ninth and take your pick between Hamilton and Winnipeg where
- 1:19:57you want to put them, seven or eight.
- 1:19:58'Cause they're
- 1:19:59I will put Hamilton seven.
- 1:20:01they're okay. Hamilton's seven.
- 1:20:01I was just gonna say, ge given
- 1:20:03who's recording these, I know where Hamilton's going.
- 1:20:05I'm recording
- 1:20:06it.
- 1:20:06Yeah.
- 1:20:07So there you go. Because it's yeah,
- 1:20:10Okay.
- 1:20:11these those those teams are just in so much flux and so much
- 1:20:16is happening around them that you just can't tell where they are going
- 1:20:20at this stage and where they deserve to be at this stage based
- 1:20:24on their personnel more than anything.
- 1:20:26thank you very much for that. And to you fans,
- 1:20:30viewers, listeners out there, I hope you realize you've been given
- 1:20:34a unique peek behind the curtain at the intense analytical process that goes into
- 1:20:40determining the GT Barnum official CFL power rankings.
- 1:20:45That's right.
- 1:20:47That's right. It takes mere seconds.
- 1:20:49Mere seconds to
- 1:20:50Ha ha.
- 1:20:50make these decisions. It's, you know,
- 1:20:53on the fly. You're calling them you're in a hurry up Ofense right now.
- 1:20:56Let's go. ~
- 1:20:57Yeah. Alrighty.
- 1:20:58Yeah.
- 1:21:00Okay, well before we take our picks for the week,
- 1:21:03my injury reports that I do every week.
- 1:21:05~ Toronto. And again this is Tuesday practice,
- 1:21:09so two, three days for some teams,
- 1:21:10one for some and ~ nothing for Calgary yet.
- 1:21:14I believe they're only practicing one day this week because they're staying
- 1:21:17No, Calgary put
- 1:21:17out east for
- 1:21:18out a injury report with no injuries today.
- 1:21:22did they? I yes.
- 1:21:22Again. Two days in a row, no injuries.
- 1:21:25They didn't even get
- 1:21:25an injury from practice.
- 1:21:27Yes. so Toronto, Goss at linebacker and Haggerty were did not participate.
- 1:21:34Lemon
- 1:21:34Mm-hmm.
- 1:21:35was limited in a non injury related capacity.
- 1:21:41I know people ~ mispractices get did not participate 'cause they've got,
- 1:21:45you know, family stuff going on or whatever.
- 1:21:46But why are you limited in a non football related stuff?
- 1:21:49You just I'm a vet and I didn't feel like going full up speed this time?
- 1:21:53I don't know.
- 1:21:55Well, maybe he was may maybe
- 1:21:55But there was that.
- 1:21:57he started out and then he was d you know,
- 1:21:59chucking on the sidelines or something and had to be taken away.
- 1:22:01Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:22:03That's not injury related. If you get the stomach flu halfway through a practice
- 1:22:07Yeah. Yes, that that
- 1:22:08Mm.
- 1:22:08could well be. Yes. Yeah.
- 1:22:12The much of reminds me of the fact that ~ Ottawa last week also didn't have McLeod
- 1:22:16Bethel Thompson because he had a family commitment that has went previous
- 1:22:21to his signing, which is interesting.
- 1:22:23But anyway, Ottawa does ~
- 1:22:24Well that's fair though. they called him last second.
- 1:22:27I don't like him, but to be fair,
- 1:22:28they called him at a very last second and basically begged him to come
- 1:22:32up there so he probably was like,
- 1:22:33I have a wedding to go to, so
- 1:22:34That's right.
- 1:22:34Yeah. yeah, I'm I'm not saying against
- 1:22:37him. I'm just saying it's a weird situation.
- 1:22:39You know, it's we're struggling a big t we're struggling big time.
- 1:22:43Here's somebody who can maybe help us.
- 1:22:45Will you come and help us? Well,
- 1:22:46okay, but I'm available these days.
- 1:22:48Anyway, ~ Ottawa, DeJarlis on the offensive line was did not participate.
- 1:22:53~ Saskatchewan
- 1:22:56Starting to look a little beat up again in the receiving core,
- 1:22:59especially. ~ Awachee at the the fullback,
- 1:23:04Emlis, and KSB were did not participate as receivers.
- 1:23:07And then Fry on the offensive line.
- 1:23:09He was out this last week. Johnson went in and did a reasonable job,
- 1:23:13I thought, but he still did not participate.
- 1:23:15And Campbell. So if he can't go,
- 1:23:17I don't know, maybe we see this year's Bell,
- 1:23:20this year's rookie, first round draft choice,
- 1:23:22be interesting. But they're up against Ottawa,
- 1:23:24Mm-hmm.
- 1:23:24so
- 1:23:26Maybe that helps. And then the only other one was Said Sad,
- 1:23:29I can never pronounce his name properly.
- 1:23:30On the D line was limited. But I think he's been out,
- 1:23:33so he might be coming back. Edmonton DeBlanco was did not participate,
- 1:23:38which is not good for them. But interestingly enough,
- 1:23:41Anderson was back to practicing full.
- 1:23:43So that may be a wash. Brinkman,
- 1:23:46Curtis, and Logan Jr. were all limited in practice.
- 1:23:50For Montreal, Canton Arcou, Naj Murray and Sutton were all did not participate.
- 1:23:56So that's a bit of a hit to their back end on the defense.
- 1:24:00Yeah.
- 1:24:01Ha Hamilton Augustine was did not participate,
- 1:24:04and Wooden was limited with a head injury.
- 1:24:07So I don't know if there may be some sort of concussion from that hit that took
- 1:24:10him out on the weekend. And BC Tevai was did not participate,
- 1:24:16and looking at how he was
- 1:24:18went off the field on the the weekend.
- 1:24:19I wouldn't expect him back in a hurry.
- 1:24:21They also had nine limited players.
- 1:24:24I found this interesting. This was about three hours ago that I was looking.
- 1:24:27I thought, okay, so where's Nathan?
- 1:24:29Is he a full participant in practice?
- 1:24:31Is he on the injured list? Where is he?
- 1:24:32And he wasn't listed on the injured list.
- 1:24:34So I thought, okay, good. But I would have expected to see him there.
- 1:24:41I hope nothing else went wrong,
- 1:24:42so I went to the roster. And for whatever reason he wasn't on the active roster.
- 1:24:47So I started thinking, crap, so I went down to the one game injured and
- 1:24:51the six game injured list and he just wasn't there.
- 1:24:53He was not on the BC Lions documentation anywhere I could find today.
- 1:24:57So I'm assuming he's good and it's just a lull between putting him back on
- 1:24:59He took first team reps today.
- 1:25:01the active roster or something.
- 1:25:04He he took first team reps today.
- 1:25:05There was pictures of him all over the place.
- 1:25:06Yeah. Okay, well that's good to know,
- 1:25:08So he's there doing first team reps.
- 1:25:10yeah. Like I said,
- 1:25:10Yeah.
- 1:25:11it was just one of those weird documentation anomalies.
- 1:25:14Yeah.
- 1:25:15I and I looked like four times.
- 1:25:17I looked by number, I looked by position,
- 1:25:19I looked by name. He was just gone.
- 1:25:21So Gremlins, like the like the AI slop,
- 1:25:24garbage in, garbage out.
- 1:25:26So that's it. Those are who's possibly hurt,
- 1:25:29possibly not. Looks like for Toronto that Kelly is going to be back.
- 1:25:33Nathan could be back with BC. We don't know who's going to be quarterbacking
- 1:25:38in in Hamilton. So let's ~ talk about game predictions.
- 1:25:43First one, Thursday night. Calgary.
- 1:25:46Short week stayed out in the east and they're taking on Toronto.
- 1:25:51Let's let GT pick first.
- 1:25:54I'm gonna go with Calgary with low confidence.
- 1:25:58Okay, MJ?
- 1:25:59I am going to go Calgary with higher confidence than low confidence.
- 1:26:03Okay, I like
- 1:26:04it.
- 1:26:05Yes. And ~ I and I think I'll take it a sweep and ~ you know what?
- 1:26:09I'm gonna complete the climb here and do it with high confidence.
- 1:26:13I I think ~ I think Toronto might score some points on Calgary.
- 1:26:17It's the Calgary defense is getting better and better week to week.
- 1:26:21But I think that they'll they will probably also harass Kelly
- 1:26:28a bit, may pick him off some
- 1:26:30And I just VA's playing so well with his receivers
- 1:26:35They they may they may put up fifty six points again.
- 1:26:38Many may not, but I think they'll put up enough to win the game.
- 1:26:40I don't see that Toronto defense being able to seriously slow them down.
- 1:26:45And frankly, even with Kolankowski going over to Toronto,
- 1:26:48I don't see the Toronto O line doing very well against that Calgary defense
- 1:26:52of monstrosities. I think it could be a long night for Mr.
- 1:26:55Kelly. And if his neck isn't fully recovered,
- 1:26:58maybe it's a short night.
- 1:27:01Mm-hmm.
- 1:27:02Friday night, Ottawa going into Saskatchewan.
- 1:27:05Well matched team. One is and seven,
- 1:27:07one is five and two.
- 1:27:09Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:27:11I'll take Saskatchewan. MJ?
- 1:27:13No
- 1:27:15You know, anecdotally, the year the Tycats were one and seventeen,
- 1:27:19they got a win off the off the riders.
- 1:27:21By a field goal.
- 1:27:22Yes they do. Yes.
- 1:27:26That being said, I you know, it's okay.
- 1:27:29I I talked up the Red Blacks last week 'cause I was like,
- 1:27:31they're coming off the bell do better.
- 1:27:32And sometimes when you fire a coach,
- 1:27:34you played better for a couple weeks.
- 1:27:36But I
- 1:27:37Yeah.
- 1:27:37think the brimstone fire and brimstone is wearing pretty thin pretty fast.
- 1:27:41~ I think it'll be Saskatchewan.
- 1:27:44But I'm hoping I'm hoping the Red Blacks can give a run for their money
- 1:27:48and make it an entertaining game for all of us.
- 1:27:50Well I I was rather glib and and quick in in my analysis of going where
- 1:27:55I went with it. But the truth is,
- 1:27:57as GT has pointed out more than once,
- 1:27:59Saskatchewan traditionally has one game a year where they shouldn't
- 1:28:03be any problem winning it at home and they lose it.
- 1:28:06And this has all the hallmarks of that.
- 1:28:08Because are they down Emilus? Are they down KSB?
- 1:28:12You know, what are they putting out there for receiving receivers?
- 1:28:16The last four or five games they've
- 1:28:18They haven't looked as much like a well,
- 1:28:20actually that's not true. They looked a lot like a an offensive juggernaut
- 1:28:24in the Edmonton game a week ago,
- 1:28:27the first one in Saskatchewan.
- 1:28:28But the couple of games before that and this last game they looked tentative
- 1:28:32on offense, so they could lose it,
- 1:28:34but I just don't see it. How about you,
- 1:28:37GT?
- 1:28:38Yeah, I just don't see it. I just don't see even with their offense in in
- 1:28:43a bit of trouble and not playing great,
- 1:28:45their defense is just too good for admi for Ottawa's offense.
- 1:28:49And so I can't see it. I yeah,
- 1:28:51I just can't see it. I've got Saskatchewan.
- 1:28:54Great.
- 1:28:55This
- 1:28:55game we're gonna watch Tommy Stevens score like a hundred short-yard touchdowns
- 1:28:58Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- 1:28:59and Ottawa
- 1:29:00fumbling from the two-yard line like a hundred ~ my goodness.
- 1:29:02Yes. Yes.
- 1:29:04Yeah.
- 1:29:05Yeah. I'm I'm waiting for the the the the game where Saskatchewan just decides,
- 1:29:12you know what? We're we're on our we're own our own ten yard line.
- 1:29:16We'll just let put Stevens in and let him run it to the to the goal line
- 1:29:20in a series of about twelve plays.
- 1:29:22shows though that when a team's ready for it,
- 1:29:24like if you looked at what Edmonton did against that,
- 1:29:26it did not work nearly as well
- 1:29:29against them as it had earlier who I forget who it was they were playing with
- 1:29:32a couple of weeks back that they did that and it worked really well.
- 1:29:35Edmonton made it tougher for them.
- 1:29:36Speaking of Edmonton, Edmonton at Montreal you're wearing an Alouette shirt.
- 1:29:42What are you gonna win a wear next week,
- 1:29:44MJ?
- 1:29:45Yeah.
- 1:29:46Well you know what? This is a really good this this is the two top teams
- 1:29:51in the league. This should it should be a fantastic game,
- 1:29:57which probably means it'll be a garbage game.
- 1:29:59but I'm hoping it's a good game,
- 1:30:01and I think the Elks are gonna be in trouble in Montreal.
- 1:30:06I think Montreal's gonna I'd I
- 1:30:07Okay.
- 1:30:08can't I you know what? They if they take any of those stupid penalties like they
- 1:30:12took against Saskatchewan, they're toast.
- 1:30:16Okay, how about
- 1:30:16Yeah.
- 1:30:17you, G T?
- 1:30:18If if ~ Cody thought the young guys were having trouble
- 1:30:21at home against Saskatchewan, wait till they get into the loudness of McGill.
- 1:30:25And so and everything that's gonna happen down there.
- 1:30:29And for all those young guys that may never have been to Montreal before,
- 1:30:32~ it messes with you as as there's lots
- 1:30:33Mm-hmm. There is that element.
- 1:30:36of ~ lots of stories of that. Every team has got its stories.
- 1:30:39So yeah, I
- 1:30:42And it's for first place. And yeah,
- 1:30:44I'm taking Montreal here. I think that this is a close game.
- 1:30:48I think it's the third week in a row that Edmonton has been in this pressure point
- 1:30:53This is the this is probably their toughest part of the schedule.
- 1:30:56I don't know who they have next week,
- 1:30:57yeah.
- 1:30:58but but it's it's pretty tough for them through here.
- 1:31:01So yeah, I will take Montreal here.
- 1:31:03I agree with everything that you said there,
- 1:31:05except for your conclusion. I think that Montreal is an extremely good team,
- 1:31:11but they haven't really been challenged lately.
- 1:31:14It's been a while since they've had a team
- 1:31:14That too. Yep.
- 1:31:16push them push them to the limit and Edmonton this is business as usual after
- 1:31:23the last two weeks. I'm becoming a big believer in the Elks,
- 1:31:26so put me down for
- 1:31:28The double E.
- 1:31:29And the last one, it's Hamilton,
- 1:31:31so we'll let you go first again,
- 1:31:32MJ. Hamilton at B C
- 1:31:35Alright, so if I were Buck Pierce,
- 1:31:38I would not start Nathan this week against that Hamilton defense if
- 1:31:44a shoulder is not fully healed.
- 1:31:46I would start Salter again.
- 1:31:49I think they're gonna start Nathan,
- 1:31:50and I don't think they should.
- 1:31:52I don't know who is starting for the Ti-Cats I'm hoping it's Ford.
- 1:31:57He looked better than Frost. Maybe Frost will look better with first team reps.
- 1:32:02Maybe.
- 1:32:04BC's got a kicking issue too. If they need to if Hamilton stops them and they need
- 1:32:09a fifty yard field goal, it's not happening.
- 1:32:12Is Isaiah wooden bad?
- 1:32:14BC's special teams is really bad.
- 1:32:18you know what? I'm gonna take the Ti-cats I wait,
- 1:32:21Going for the upset. All right.
- 1:32:24Yeah. I
- 1:32:24well, well
- 1:32:26I think that no, I think that B C is probably gonna end up being the favorite.
- 1:32:29especially
- 1:32:30Yeah.
- 1:32:30if Nathan's
- 1:32:30Yeah.
- 1:32:31back. so I I don't I don't disagree with anything you said.
- 1:32:35I just yeah, it's that's I think B C will be the favorite.
- 1:32:38~
- 1:32:38Okay. So
- 1:32:39are you going with them then or?
- 1:32:41they have played well in the last three games or so.
- 1:32:46They have played well. I thought their defense has come around and
- 1:32:50has been playing better. I am going to go with BC.
- 1:32:53Yes, I am going to go with BC.
- 1:32:55I know they've got some some areas of weakness still and they're not clean
- 1:33:00by any means.
- 1:33:01But I think they've been playing better and they still have the makings
- 1:33:05of a better team. And I think like MJ,
- 1:33:08if they start Salter then that kinda because ~ Hamilton's defense,
- 1:33:13as I said earlier, is very good.
- 1:33:15But I don't know if anybody can really get that guy under control right now.
- 1:33:20and then you can always go to Nathan if you have to.
- 1:33:22so maybe that's the maybe that's a trick,
- 1:33:25or maybe you do.
- 1:33:26Nathan and Salt are back and forth for a little while and to really throw them off.
- 1:33:30Okay. And for me it is obviously the toughest decision of the week,
- 1:33:34and it's got a lot to do with is it Nathan or Salter in there,
- 1:33:37who starts out of the the three choices for Hamilton.
- 1:33:41So lots of variables. But what I do know is that Hamilton defense is very good.
- 1:33:47Mm-hmm.
- 1:33:47And even with Nathan back in there,
- 1:33:50I don't see it being a
- 1:33:5340, 50 point game by BC. I think their ceiling on the game with Nathan
- 1:33:58in is probably high twenties. If they get high twenties,
- 1:34:03they maybe win, but then again,
- 1:34:05Hamilton. Hamilton is a a little bit of a running team,
- 1:34:09but they are. Whoever they put in at quarterback,
- 1:34:11they want to throw a lot more.
- 1:34:12And BC's pass defense is a lot worse than its run defense.
- 1:34:16So.
- 1:34:19Question is can the Hamilton quarterbacks find the op the receivers who
- 1:34:23are going to be open? And I think they will enough.
- 1:34:26So I'm going with MJ. I'm going Hamilton.
- 1:34:29All right.
- 1:34:30Alrighty. That's it. Those are our brave choices.
- 1:34:34I guess we're almost done just saying our goodbyes
- 1:34:40GT Any closing thoughts, etc, etc
- 1:34:43Sure. There's one more thing that I thought I should mention over that happened over
- 1:34:47this weekend because as I said I had my grandchildren here for the weekend
- 1:34:51and I also have a CFL checkers game that is all the teams logos
- 1:34:57and you play CFL teams ~ in checkers.
- 1:35:00So we went with at the playoffs as of now and did the entire run through
- 1:35:06the gray cup and between myself and my grandson.
- 1:35:10And ~ I will tell you that in the end it was Saskatchewan over Toronto
- 1:35:17in a
- 1:35:17Ha ha ha.
- 1:35:18in a close one, but Saskatchewan over Toronto to take the gray cup
- 1:35:23in this year's Checkers Tournament.
- 1:35:25And other than that, yes,
- 1:35:26Damn s
- 1:35:28that is my closing remarks, and you can find me very,
- 1:35:30very occasionally ~ at GT Barnum on Blue Sky.
- 1:35:35Yes. Damn, so the the podcast's team loses in the Grey Cup.
- 1:35:39~ the hardship we put up with around here.
- 1:35:40Yeah. But they got there.
- 1:35:40No tragic Tragic
- 1:35:45Yes. Yes, I was also thinking earlier,
- 1:35:48you know, the nice thing you can say to your grandkids is congratulations
- 1:35:54on picking Hamilton as your team.
- 1:35:56You're young. There's a chance you'll see them win a Grey Cup.
- 1:35:59With that I'll hand it over to MJ.
- 1:36:02Honestly,
- 1:36:03honestly.
- 1:36:04Yes, this is a big sports weekend for me.
- 1:36:08The CEBL playoffs are on Thursday.
- 1:36:10They play all at the same time.
- 1:36:11Four games all at once. They're on YouTube,
- 1:36:13CBC Jam, and TSM Plus. I will be cheering for Edmonton.
- 1:36:17My husband and I's teams are playing each other this weekend.
- 1:36:20We are not friends that day for that three hours.
- 1:36:24And yeah, you can find us on Instagram,
- 1:36:26getting some good comments. Amar Domin liked one of our reels,
- 1:36:30so we're we are on the app.
- 1:36:33And you can find me over on Blue Sky.
- 1:36:35Being sad about the Blue Jays,
- 1:36:37posting about football and basketball sometimes at Sports and Plants.
- 1:36:41Very nice. And for me, of course,
- 1:36:44~ you can find me at any of at the CFL outsiders on most of
- 1:36:49the platforms except Instagram,
- 1:36:51which will take you to MJ. But any of the others,
- 1:36:54just drop me a note and or check it out and see what ~ what occurs to
- 1:36:58me during the week and whatnot.
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- 1:37:15I'll also say real quick, as I mentioned earlier,
- 1:37:17if you follow fantasy at all, I'll drop Old Man Play CFL Weekly Fantasy Thursday
- 1:37:21afternoon once we've got the depth charts out.
- 1:37:24But other than that, I'm
- 1:37:27I'm really curious about this weekend.
- 1:37:30We could we could have there's one game that looks like it should be fantastic.
- 1:37:35And the other three I don't know,
- 1:37:38but those are some of the ones that are turning out to be real exciting stuff.
- 1:37:41Maybe not pretty stuff, but exciting stuff in the CFL.
- 1:37:44So everybody, that's it.
- 1:37:47That's us for this week. Enjoy the CFL.
- 1:37:50Enjoy your weekend, and until next week,
- 1:37:53for MJ and GT, this is old man saying
- 1:37:57Get the hell off my lawn.