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Fitness Secrets with Geoff Laney – Expert Tips and Insights! · The Best Experience

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  Speaker 1: All right, Yes, we are live. This is the best
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  Speaker 1: experience and we have a guest. Yes, Jeff Laney, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for joining us today. But before we get into everything, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jeff, we'd like to welcome our newest members.
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  Speaker 1: Every week we read off the newest members that have
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  Speaker 1: joined our Patreon and for those when you join, we
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  Speaker 1: actually read your name off in the beginning of every
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  Speaker 1: show and it's an appreciation. Thank you guys for joining
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  Speaker 1: our community.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Nick, well, Vivian Ho, thank you very much,
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  Speaker 2: Vicky wu Ming hopefully I said that right. Uh zenon
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  Speaker 2: you uh uh mezen Yee, Shirley gone, and lerr Chin
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  Speaker 2: thank you all very much. If I butchered your names,
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  Speaker 2: my humblest apologies, but thank you for joining. We appreciate
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  Speaker 2: you being here. Let's see here, so we go to questions.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, let's go right to questions because we got
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  Speaker 1: two questions in this week and for those of part
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  Speaker 1: of the Patreon, let me take that out.
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  Speaker 2: To go into those. Oh, we're just bouncing all over
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  Speaker 2: the place.
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  Speaker 3: That we are, but I've got two questions in MM.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, usually take vitamins and probatics. Is that healthy or
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  Speaker 2: should I try to get more from real foods instead.
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  Speaker 2: I just I think it might not be getting enough
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  Speaker 2: nutrients from my diet. Okay, well, basically a balanced diet
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  Speaker 2: is like the number one thing you can do for yourself,
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  Speaker 2: period the end. But little extra vitamins, vitamin C, a
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  Speaker 2: few other things, they're not gonna hurt you. It's not
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  Speaker 2: going to be bad, so go ahead and take them.
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  Speaker 2: It's whatever you don't utilize, you're just going to pee out,
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  Speaker 2: so you're fine, don't don't even worry about it. And
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  Speaker 2: then as far as the probiotics go, yeah, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to help you digest the food and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, absolutely do that as well. It's gonna help
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  Speaker 2: you digest. And you can also try some stuff like
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  Speaker 2: chicken broth that's gonna help you know, the bone bone
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  Speaker 2: broth is going to help you digest your food. So
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  Speaker 2: it never hurts to do that as well. So put
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  Speaker 2: that if you make right, if you use a lot
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  Speaker 2: of white rice, add that to your white rice and
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  Speaker 2: then put your protein in with that, and you're going
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  Speaker 2: to digest a little better. So that's kind of and
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  Speaker 2: then smaller, more frequent meals so that your protein breaks down.
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  Speaker 2: Everything breaks down a little easier. It gets assimulated in
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  Speaker 2: your blood sugar, and everything stays more even throughout your body.
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  Speaker 2: So if you like five six times a day as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to two or three, your body's gonna get the
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  Speaker 2: nutrients in easier as well. They're going to digest the
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  Speaker 2: smaller meals easier, and your stomach and digestive system won't
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  Speaker 2: have to work as hard, which is also going to
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  Speaker 2: be beneficial to you as well.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, you got any vitamins or anything that you
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  Speaker 1: would as a recommendation, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I typically take all the same stuff. I take
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  Speaker 4: the multi vitamin every day for all my micro nutrients.
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  Speaker 4: I also take collagen as well, and I take like
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  Speaker 4: you know, milk thistle and other types of vitamins for liver, kidney,
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  Speaker 4: organ support, all the same stuff that Nick already mentioned though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's once you get to a certain level
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  Speaker 2: of the guys are doing all the exact same things
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  Speaker 2: because it's what got them there in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: So these are all things that are going to help,
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  Speaker 2: all right. Number two, when somebody is injured, sick, or
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  Speaker 2: recovering from surgery and can't really eat normal food, but
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  Speaker 2: actually needs more nutrients. What should you do instead? Do
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  Speaker 2: you need extra protein or do they need extra protein?
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  Speaker 2: And millenials, how can they get those in? The regular
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  Speaker 2: meals don't work, you know, protein, collagen, bone broth, all
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  Speaker 2: those things we just talked about, great things to help
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  Speaker 2: with recovery. They really are getting your protein in. If
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  Speaker 2: you can't get it in by eating the food, drink it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, pretty simple protein shakes stuff like that. Drink
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  Speaker 2: it because you're gonna be able to swallow a lot
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  Speaker 2: easier than you're gonna be able to chew if you
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  Speaker 2: can't get the food in. And so just and you
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  Speaker 2: get a need to take in liquids anyway, So liquid
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  Speaker 2: protein with a way or you know, whatever type of
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  Speaker 2: protein is that you want to take in, do that instead.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't, you know, you can't get a lot
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  Speaker 2: of calories, and you can't do that, drink it. Make
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  Speaker 2: the protein shakes and then drink those and instead of
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  Speaker 2: eating the meals, because you're still going to drink fluids
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  Speaker 2: no matter what you do. So add that because like
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  Speaker 2: during the summer, we'll do that here in Vegas during
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  Speaker 2: when it gets like hot and you got to constantly
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  Speaker 2: drink drink like fluids. I'll go and have a couple
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  Speaker 2: of protein shakes during the day because I get so
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  Speaker 2: full from drinking fluids. I can't eat. Same philosophy when
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  Speaker 2: you're doing that with injury and stuff like that, you
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  Speaker 2: can't eat drinking fluids, drink drinking protein.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, have you got any recommendations in that area
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  Speaker 1: or just for like, you know, like that you're saying
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  Speaker 1: for someone who's trying, who's out of surgery, trying to recover,
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  Speaker 1: or even sick.
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  Speaker 4: You know, definitely getting all your food in, especially if
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  Speaker 4: you're sick. Been on plenty of deployments where I eat
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  Speaker 4: the wrong thing or I get some type of bad
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  Speaker 4: water in me, and then you're down and you're sick,
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  Speaker 4: and the last thing that you want is something on
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  Speaker 4: your stomach, and the best thing for you is rest
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  Speaker 4: and something on your stomach. So injury, sickness, what have
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  Speaker 4: you just even like small little meals, anything is better
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  Speaker 4: than nothing.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, yes, I agree, And I just recently got
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  Speaker 1: over from you know, I'm on the tail end of
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  Speaker 1: being sick. My whole house is sick here at the house,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like, yeah, exactly, and it's for me electrolytes,
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  Speaker 1: something tasty in the water, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: a little flavor, and it really helps me out because
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  Speaker 1: I get really dehydraded. W I'm one of those people
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  Speaker 1: when you get sick or I'm injured or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: I lose my appetite and I want nothing and it's
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  Speaker 1: like no, I have to And it's like breaking that
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  Speaker 1: mental aspect of that. That's what always fucks me up.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take like juices and stuff and water I'm down
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Yea, this concentrate stuff like.
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  Speaker 4: That orange juice had one tenth of a pediolite or something. Yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 4: y yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with taking cold medicine. There's nothing wrong,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's just get a little
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  Speaker 1: inid you know what I'm saying, And that's the best
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  Speaker 1: way to do it.
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  Speaker 2: M yeah for sure. Oh yeah, Okay, Now we're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk to Jeff. It's it's it's the Jeff time
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  Speaker 2: of the show. So Jeff is an amazing straw man.
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  Speaker 2: He you just won the national championship and twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: five correct and one of five yes, yes you did
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  Speaker 2: for yep, and what else did you do with that show?
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  Speaker 4: I was able to set the one o five's national
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  Speaker 4: overhead press record and uh I did it four four
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  Speaker 4: fifteen behind the neck.
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  Speaker 2: So m yeah, that's pretty freaking amazing. I can tell
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  Speaker 2: you this. I never did that, so that's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 2: That's that is totally phenomenal. They won it pretty handedly,
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  Speaker 2: So good job, very I appreciate this. And you turned
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  Speaker 2: out to be a pretty good powerlifter apparently too.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, trying to fall in your in your footsteps.
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  Speaker 2: So you just did a contest, didn't you?
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  Speaker 4: On the on the eleventh, Yes, I had the WPF
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  Speaker 4: World Championship, and I was in the men's hundred kilo
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  Speaker 4: and the Pro Open as well.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Got five hundred and fifty one dots. You
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  Speaker 2: don't know, that's a lot. That's really good. Squatted seven
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  Speaker 2: ninety three.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, under seven three. It's like, yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay, and then pulled seven to twenty seven point
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  Speaker 2: five on the deadlift, correct, sure did so. That's a
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  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty two total at two twenty And the biggest
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  Speaker 2: part of that was drug tested yep.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was a drug tested show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're doing that drug tested, not just not
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  Speaker 2: just doing the show, you're doing that well tested. That's
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  Speaker 2: that's pretty amazing because that's nineteen sixty two is a
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  Speaker 2: big total at too.
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  Speaker 4: I really wanted that. I really wanted that two k
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  Speaker 4: under twenty.
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  Speaker 5: Oh man, it's there, it's it's there.
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  Speaker 2: It's just gonna take a little time. It's there. And
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  Speaker 2: then how bad do you want to stay? That light.
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  Speaker 4: Ye powerless thing has slowly become a back burner for me.
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  Speaker 4: So and I'm really starting to get a headstrong into
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  Speaker 4: strong man like focused mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: So in your strong man training? What do you got
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  Speaker 2: coming up? Now? What's next for you?
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  Speaker 4: Next? Is the Arnold in March?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? And what are the events for that?
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  Speaker 4: Do you know they have not released yet? Now I
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  Speaker 4: would love to know. I'd already be training.
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  Speaker 2: Now. I noticed you're doing a lot of sandbag stone sandbags.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I recently came across a set of sandballs and
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  Speaker 4: I've seen them used at OSG as well. I am
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  Speaker 4: not doing OSG this year, however, they were there last year.
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  Speaker 4: Now service makes them. I'm assuming having them in the
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  Speaker 4: in the toolkit will come in handy soon.
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  Speaker 2: It will It always well it's just something different. And
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  Speaker 2: so that's pretty good because you shouldered those things pretty
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  Speaker 2: easy too.
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  Speaker 4: They're they're a lot of fun, surprisingly difficult in their
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  Speaker 4: own way, easier in ways that I didn't expect. So
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  Speaker 4: and I think in all the easy all the easy ways,
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  Speaker 4: or to my strengths of picking and shouldering and what
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  Speaker 4: have you. So I'm gonna on.
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  Speaker 2: So, now, are you doing it the way you do
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  Speaker 2: it for a particular reason or.
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  Speaker 4: Is that just just off season fun? Okay, just trying
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  Speaker 4: to learn something new.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're getting paid for this, now, correct, you're a professional?
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  Speaker 3: Correct?
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  Speaker 4: I am dual pro. The WPF pays me, and then
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  Speaker 4: I'm a one five pro through strong anchor.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Now that being said, we need to make things
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  Speaker 2: as easy as possible when you're training, because you want
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  Speaker 2: the stuff to be as easy as possible. Have you
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  Speaker 2: tried the sandbags with a leather belt on a loose one?
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  Speaker 4: I have not.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, have you tried those balls with a pair of
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  Speaker 2: blue rubber gloves on the.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of you can buy it the gardening ones? Huh
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  Speaker 4: like the gardening ones? Yeah? Yes, hmmm, I think write down.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. The goal is to make things as easy as
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  Speaker 2: possible within the rules, and if they don't put any
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  Speaker 2: rules where you can't use a leather belt, leather belt,
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  Speaker 2: and they don't put any rules in where you can't
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  Speaker 2: use those rubber gloves, because that those rubber gloves grip sandbags,
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  Speaker 2: whether they're the round ones or whatever, they grip the
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  Speaker 2: sand bags. They make picking up up off the ground
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  Speaker 2: just that much easier.
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  Speaker 4: Especially much better than chalk.
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  Speaker 2: About a thousand times better than chalk. Yes, way better
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  Speaker 2: than chalk. And there's little tricks you can do which
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  Speaker 2: I'll explain to you later at a different time, because
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give.
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  Speaker 6: Those camera secrets, yund so they don't slide or move
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  Speaker 6: and then lap it and then put the belt should
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  Speaker 6: be you know, about an inch loose, just so you
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  Speaker 6: get a little bit of a that catches the bag.
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  Speaker 4: Now, you mean like a leather belt like I would
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  Speaker 4: wear with just a.
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  Speaker 2: One in like a one inch lever belt, you know,
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  Speaker 2: or a four inch or the three inch the thirteen
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  Speaker 2: millimeter belts that you were Okay, yeah, you need that
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  Speaker 2: like an inch loose, so it's got a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a lip on it. You grab that into the sandbag.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, use your sense, use your.
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  Speaker 2: Hips instead of your abs. You'll pop it. You'll pop
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  Speaker 2: it right up over your shoulders every time. You'll you'll
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  Speaker 2: be able to throw it in the.
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  Speaker 4: Air the way you're feel super confident with them. So
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  Speaker 4: that's gonna be great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll just make it that much easier to say
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  Speaker 2: that much energy and have that much energy for your
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  Speaker 2: next event. Which is the goal for the pros is
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  Speaker 2: you want to make You want to outthink everyone, not
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  Speaker 2: out tough.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone, Oh for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a mistake. I see a lot of
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  Speaker 2: a lot of athletes try to out tough everybody instead
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  Speaker 2: of outthink everybody. So novakof is a guy that tries
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  Speaker 2: to outthink everybody. Brian would try to outthink everybody. There's
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  Speaker 2: there's some guys out there, Magnus verb which is why
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  Speaker 2: Magnus ver is all over people when he sets rules
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  Speaker 2: because he used to try to outthink everybody. Same thing,
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  Speaker 2: outthink everyone when you're going, you'll make a make a big, big,
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  Speaker 2: big difference on those And then how do you work
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  Speaker 2: on your foot speed with your frame? Were you going
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  Speaker 2: at that speed on purpose or that?
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  Speaker 4: So No, I trained a lot faster. I trained like
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  Speaker 4: a lot of like static high steps like you know
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  Speaker 4: old football drills, footworks, foot speed. It was who second
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  Speaker 4: and third place were. I knew that they could do
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  Speaker 4: me all day on the frame carry At Nationals m
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  Speaker 4: DJ doggett he would train at an eight to eighty
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  Speaker 4: frame for the same distance, same speed, animal on grip strength.
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  Speaker 4: Grip strength is my weakest link. So knowing that he
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  Speaker 4: could outdo me all day speed intensity on the frame,
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  Speaker 4: I just knew that I needed to get a certain
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  Speaker 4: exact distance with how the score was lined up, and
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  Speaker 4: then I'm done. It doesn't matter how good second and
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  Speaker 4: third place did. They could not outpace me in points.
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  Speaker 4: So I did the exact minimum. At I was in
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  Speaker 4: the back like behind the scenes, and I was just
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  Speaker 4: walking back and forth and pacing, counting my steps. So
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  Speaker 4: then when I went out there, I just had to
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  Speaker 4: count a certain steps out, certain steps back, and I
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  Speaker 4: knew the distance right, I dropped it. I had seven
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  Speaker 4: and a half second left and I just walked off
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  Speaker 4: and a couple guys yelled at me for doing it.
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  Speaker 4: I explained my theory, Hey, if it screws me over
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  Speaker 4: in the last event, then I wanted to be as
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  Speaker 4: fresh for the last event as possible.
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  Speaker 2: No, And that's that's that's being a pro, right there,
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  Speaker 2: that's being pro. It's it's me getting the losses and
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  Speaker 2: exaggerating your your strengths. So that's smart, that's smart. Than
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  Speaker 2: we can make we can make that better.
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  Speaker 4: We make that Pro Strongman League. I failed to play
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  Speaker 4: on my strengths and you know, take an honorable loss
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  Speaker 4: in my weaknesses where I did the verse, I sam
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  Speaker 4: bagged all my strengths and then I just dug my
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  Speaker 4: heels into all the events I was bad at and
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  Speaker 4: I still got top five at the PSL Championship, but
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  Speaker 4: definitely could have done better. Lessons learned, took those lessons
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  Speaker 4: to nationals.
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  Speaker 2: Made Yeah, I always did. I did whatever I could
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  Speaker 2: on overhead because I'm just I was just never a
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  Speaker 2: great overhead presser. And then I just came with all
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  Speaker 2: my strengths. I just brought it all, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: that's that's how I was able to do the things
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  Speaker 2: that I did as mitigated the the bad stuff. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean I zeroed the axle at World Strongest Man
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  Speaker 2: in twenty ten and still still made it to the finals. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so it's just but I won three events in the
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  Speaker 2: qualifying heat. So stuff like that makes a pretty big difference.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just mitigating losses and then getting after that.
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  Speaker 2: So but a lot of it. Some of it's the
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  Speaker 2: way you carry your shoulders too, and make keeping the
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  Speaker 2: frame from moving. Just notice pickups. The frame was rocking
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  Speaker 2: up and down.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yes, I like a lot of guys would take
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  Speaker 4: off and they would get ahead, and even some of
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  Speaker 4: the guys lower on the leader board or typically not always,
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  Speaker 4: but typically more novice or junior athletes, especially, a good
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  Speaker 4: handful of those guys, they picked it so fast they
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  Speaker 4: didn't anticipate the length because of how narrow our friends were.
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  Speaker 4: To make up for how narrow they were, they made
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  Speaker 4: them just way longer. So it was a balancing act.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of guys would pick them up and then
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  Speaker 4: they'll just dig and it would just stop them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So did you get to play with them at
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  Speaker 2: all before you guys went?
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  Speaker 4: We did. We had the day prior during the rules meeting,
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  Speaker 4: and then we had all all day as long as
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  Speaker 4: you as early as you got to get there and
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  Speaker 4: work with them. They did that with all the implements,
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  Speaker 4: which I loved about Nationals.
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  Speaker 2: So did you find the balancing point and then put a.
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  Speaker 4: Market Yeah, if you, if you did enough practice. They
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  Speaker 4: gave us like a very generous like twenty five feet
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  Speaker 4: in the back. They had three lane in the back
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  Speaker 4: running at a time. So I believe they brought eight
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  Speaker 4: frames to the show and they had You could find
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  Speaker 4: it easy if you just worked with it when.
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  Speaker 2: You found it. On the one that you were going
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  Speaker 2: to use MH mark where it.
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  Speaker 4: Was, no, I didn't know which, I didn't know which
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  Speaker 4: exact frame went out where. And then the way that
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  Speaker 4: this day two, yeah, Day two was set up. My
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  Speaker 4: weight class went first on the frame. Okay, so they
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  Speaker 4: moved them straight from the backstage to the front. They
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  Speaker 4: got mixed up. My I was focused elsewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And little things like that, especially when you get
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  Speaker 2: into the bigger shows where there's less of you and
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  Speaker 2: only a couple of frames, go market on both the
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  Speaker 2: frames where your balance point is good to know, thank you, sir,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: get towards a little more level of not going like
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: this in your.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Hands, which makes.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: It mm hmm. But do you have any deep dish
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: hundred pound plates?
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: No? Well find any? Yeah, no, I have fifty kilo calibrateds,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: but those are flat faced, and then I just have
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: some like I have like some standard barbell hundreds, but
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: they're not deep. They're not deep dish, Like how deep
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: are they? They probably got a quarter inch on each side.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's not enough. Okay, hmmm, what about any deep
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: dish forty five?
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I do have those?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we could probably run something through the islet
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: on the on the forty five to where you could
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: attach another one plus like a like two tens on
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: there to get it to one hundred pounds and then
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: pick them up on either side and holding.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Your hands like from the You might have to you
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: might have.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: To do it up on a platform. No, no, no, grabbing
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the deep dish part of it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's what you're saying. Grabbing the.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Grab grab the deep dish on your fingertips and then
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: pick it up and try to get like, yeah, your
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: finger is gonna get really strong, really strong. I guess
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: what you need and grip, yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, strong fingers strong. It's like like how rock
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: climbers have insane grip. They can hold their body weight
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: up for an hour, right, all right, it's.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Where you can hold like one hundred pounds in your
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: hands like that on your fingertips like that for over
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: a minute. You'll be able to pick up the thomasinch.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Think so, because that thing does every time I grabbed one.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: It's both in the.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: For Yeah, you get to where you can hold that
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: for like a minute, minute and a half, you'll be
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: able to do it.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I will.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: You'll make your grip. Yeah, it'll it'll, it'll help a lot.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: It's just thword just came out and we just did
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: that out here. So okay, yeah, we a little that's
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a little mini grip training session. It was a lot
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: of fun. It was kind of cool.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: It's pretty strong too.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can imagine. I mean, the genetics
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: didn't come from you know, anywhere.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I know, but oh yeah, for sure. But it works
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: really good. You do that with about one hundred pounds
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: and get it into the deep dish part of that
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and get it right on your fingertips and just put
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: your thumbs on the top. Don't don't wrap them around,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: don't squeeze them. Just your thumbs can hold on to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: the top like this. But you're you're holding it on
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: your fingertips trying to.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not trying to grip around.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: You're just yeah, yeah, you watch what happens to this
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: part of your foreign all through the Yeah, and your
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: grip will just get monster after that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Tim Buck lives in my town. Tim Bucks open open
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: bro as well. I'm sure. I'm sure he might know
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: where some are.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, he'll probably be able to help you find some.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: So that'll be good. That'll be a good thing.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: I'll deal with him soon. Yeah, thank you.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, any other other questions, right, any ideas.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: For you for powerlifting and strong man together. Yeah, I
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: mean you've you've lifted both raw wraps single ply. You've
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: you've been a competitive powerlifter since than Yeah, you have
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: like I don't know what thirty probably like thirty or
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: so powerlifting shows.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Uhh yeah, more than that.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you've You've had one thousand kilo totals raw
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: all while still being one of what some would consider
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: one of the older gentlemen at World Strongest Man, competing
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: along with all the big names, especially big Z Brian
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: you know Mkhiel like Travis and Terry Hollins. Mm hm.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: How was what was probably your biggest takeaway of like
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: training both at the same time and being incredibly successful?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Uh? You know what they if you do it right.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: They compliment each other, one will make the other better.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I mean when I first competed in straw Man, my
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: biggest deadlift was like seven oh five, seven to twenty
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: seven right around in there. And then I had to
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: start doing straw Man and the contest I was getting
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: ready for how to Farmer's Walk, and it had a deadlift,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: a regular deadlift, and I had to figure out how
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to because there's no sumo in a straw man, So
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I had to figure out how to deadlift and do
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Farmers Walk. And the two of those combined, one played
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: off the other, and I just went from deadlift in
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: like seven twenty seven at most up to eight oh
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: four in about four months. When I started training it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It was crazy. I found that goofy technique I had
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: because that was the best way I could get down
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and grab the bar and pull it up, and it
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: just it was like natural for me. And then I
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: was doing Farmers Walk at the same time, and I
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: was going had one hundred and fifty pound dumbbell at
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the twenty four hour fitness that I was working at
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: at the time, and I would wrap it around with
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: a strap one hundred and forty five pound dumbell and
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: double stack them, and so I'd have to pick that. Now,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: imagine picking you know, two hundred and ninety five pounds
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: in each hand on the dumbbells on the rubber dumbbells
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: at twenty four hour fitness. And that really also helped
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: my deadlift and then holding onto it. I was going down,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: making a turn and then coming back. It was probably
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: about eighty feet down and turning and coming back with
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: those And turned out I did it right because I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: got to world strong, I got to ifs the worlds
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: and broke the world record in the Farmer's Walk, first
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: event I ever did in a international show. So then
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the record's still there since two thousand and six, which
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: is kind of crazy. But one helped the other like
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: big time. So well, a lot of this stuff plays
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: off other things go ahead.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: You took about a fifteen year hiatus from powerlifting. Was
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: that you had an injury the last time you competed
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: in single play, which was two thousand.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I was just I was just getting over
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: that injury when I competed.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't. I couldn't remember if it was that
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: you injured yourself in two thousand or at that show
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: because you didn't complete, you pulled, you withdrawn from that one.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: But then you don't have another show until fifteen.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so started it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Did you always want to get back into it
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: or was it just you slowed down in strong.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Man and you weren't Yeah. I wanted to get to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the top level of straw Man, so I put all
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: my efforts.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: That, Yeah, I'd be effort.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Well, well, yeah, basically my last show was in two
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: thousand and one and it was the Nevada State Championships. Okay,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I think that I squatted eight fifteen, benched five sixty seven,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and deadlifted I think either seven oh five or seven
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: twenty seven. I total twenty one oh five that day,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: So whatever that comes out to be, that's what I
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: hit on the deadlift because the total was twenty one
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: oh five. All were Nevada state records and stuff like that,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and that was the last time I get it. That
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: was the last powerlifting meet, and it was I think
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Dylan was probably eight or nine months old at the time,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: so it was pretty cool. And then Dylan's mother and
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I just at that time it just wasn't a good thing,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: and the powerlifting and stuff like that. She didn't really
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: like it that much. And I didn't know that much
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: about what Strowman was at that time.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: And then in.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Two thousand and three, Mark Phillippe invited me out to
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: you know, v to watch the straw Man competition that
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: he was having out there. And here's Grant Heiga and
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: John Anderson and Phil Fister and Carl Gillingham and stuff
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: like that. A lot of the guys I competed with
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: in power lifting they're doing straw Man and I was
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: watching that and Dylan's just having a ball and He's like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: look at this stuff, Dad, You're pretty strong. This is cool.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: You should do this.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I did did a contest in two thousand and four
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: and got my head handed to me at March Air
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Force Base met ode Hagen there. That was pretty cool.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Nice And got to see Rebecca Swinson and oh Jill
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Mills go head to head at that show. That was
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: kind of amazing to watch. Yeah, Jost, Josh Bryant was there,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you know, there, there was. It was a really neat show.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I finished the middle of the pack and I realized
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I finished the middle of the pack, not because I
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: wasn't strong enough.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: I just didn't know what I was doing.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they had a yoke in there, and
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I think it was like seven hundred and fifty pounds.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And I finished the course, but I was wabbling all
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: over the place. I had no idea what to do
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: with that thing. But it was pretty cool, and I
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: was bit at that point. I was bit, I'm like,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I'm doing this. We got to pull a F four
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: fan and fighter jet. It was an airplane. I'm like,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I'm cooling an airport. It was freaking cool, and I'm like, yeah,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm here, I'm I'm on November. I did another show,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and I knew what the events were a little bit,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: did the best I could to get ready for those,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: went to the show, and I guess the guy that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: was fourth in the country that time at NAS Nationals
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: was there, and everybody was like freaking out that he
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: was there. And I beat him as bad as he
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: beat everybody else. I got first in all events and
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: one second in the overhead, and he got one first
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: in the overhead and second and all the rest of
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: the events. So he just looks at me and he goes, well,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: he goes I'd say I'd see at Nationals he goes,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: but there's a bunch of pro ams because there was
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: like two pro ams before he goes. He'll probably turn
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: pro one of those two. And I did Chad Coy's
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: show and missed it by a point, and two of
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: us beat all the plays that were in the show.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Historically, Chad's shows are It's tough.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: That's where I figured out I was really I knew
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I was going to be good at the Farmer's Wife,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: but I found out I was really good there because
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I just picked up I think it was like three ten,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: three twenty, and just I was gone and nobody was
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: dotting close. I was like, okay, cool, I'm pretty good
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: this one. But it was just a neat show to do.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: And then Chad's like, look, man, you got second place
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: by a point. You need to keep doing this. I'm like,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: hell yeah, you just need more experience. So Van Hatfield's
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: contest was in Utah a month later. He's like, yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: go up and do that one. Just go get the experience.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Well I did, and that was a program and instead
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: of having three pros in the contest, there was seven
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: pros in the contest.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: And for the events, I beat all the pros but trash.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: And then the deadlift event, I actually even beat Travis.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: So every time I beat like I got second in
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: the tire in the tire flip and drag. I missed
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: beating Travis I half a second. Travis was like, who
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the hell are you? I'm like, oh so, And then
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: the log I did horrible and I was like in
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the middle of the pack. And then the frame. Travis
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and I were the only two to finish the frame,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: and it was an eight hundred pound frame, which I
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: actually have here at my house now. Then let me
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: buy Yeah, but it's been here since. Thank you. Then,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I love you. I also got one of his logs,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: which that one he let me bring down and gave
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to me. But we got to the deadlift event and
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: then it came down to me and him and I
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: broke his record by like ten pounds, and he was
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: all pissed, you want to hit her? I'm like, yeah,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: put it on. He pulled it, got to his knees
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and dropped it, and I went out and pulled it,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: put it down. I'm like good, that was it, and I.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Had held the that's all you needed.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I held the nast deadlift record. For probably ten
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: years at that point, until somebody has clearly broken it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: What would you say that you're then what would your
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: favorite lift be? Maybe not the you're supposed to be
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: interviewing you. I don't get to talk to you. This
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: is the only chance that I have your undivided attention.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Why all here, you can stay here, come train and stuff.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: You can hang out here.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Tell me twice, Okay, I got a room.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: You can come crash here and we can get get
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: a few days training in and stuff like that, do
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: some working with you and stuff like that. It'd be
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: it'd be fun.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So what's my favorite event? Yes, it's hard.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: What's that because I mean I said, yeah, it's it's
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: hard to decide. I mean, especially with when you did
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: the strongest Man in history. You got to go around
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: with the other three goofballs. Yeah, yeah, all over and
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: just lift.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was God, that was fun. That was so fun.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: That that carousel lift at uh at Paul Anderson's ranch
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: with his family on it was was pretty insane. That
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: was pretty emotional just all the way around, the.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: One that everybody thought was going to kill you.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, well if it fitted. I missed the platform when
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I went to set it down, it would.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Have Oh yeah, that was terrified that you did it. Yeah.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I was thinking when I set
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: it down, but Brian let me know about it shortly
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: after I could argue with him. That was just not
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: not real smart, but it was. It was cool getting
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: to do that with his family on it and breaking.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Down twenty twenty eight pounds yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Twenty seven ninety Yeah, so that was that was pretty cool.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Just want to think it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Jenkins and I set the hip hoof for record.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: We co still we still co hold that thing twenty.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Five Yeah, and uh yeah giants huh yeah at twenty
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: twelve giants, Yeah, I think you know.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it is that. That was a pretty cool
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: one too. Getting to do that with Mike that was
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: really special. It truly was, especially Mike's attitude. He's like, yeah,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: we're lifting the red Rocket. He's just make it, jokes
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: about it the whole entire time. It was hard to
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: keep a straight face when we're going.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: No.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: That guy. He was so freaking funny and so lovable
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: and so hilarious, just out of control, just just instant fun.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Just he just was. His personality was every bit as
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: big as he was. No, sure so, but I don't.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: It's hard to pick a favorite event because I love
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: the yolk, I love the Farmer's walk, I love the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: front carrier. Yeah. So the eighteen inch deadlift, the fifteen
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: inch deadlift. I love both of those too. They're very,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: very well at those. I think at fifteen inches, I
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: did his seven seventy axle for thirteen reps in sixty seconds,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: which I think is still a little record. I don't know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I not paying attention to it anymore, but that that
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: was pretty cool.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: Yes, still the undefeated record.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh, just uh, there's just a lot of
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: stuff that's just been so much fun. I'd loved Medley's
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: It's it's yeah. I just love the sport, I really do.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: It's just fun. It's hard to pick one thing. I
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: can pick the thing I could do with that though.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: It's overhead press.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Overhead Yeah, it's just lovely to.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Put a bench press in when I was still able
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: to bench press really well.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Just one. Yeah, when we did the Pro Strong Main League,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: one of five championships, the event too was a six
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: thirty five squad for max reps. Mm hmm, you did seconds? Yeah,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: sixty seconds, and yeah, I completed fifteen reps. And I
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: mean I was only advertised as a powerlifter going into it,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: and it was also my first international and my first
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: pro show, and I was just a wild card invite.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I got a call from from Tyler.
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: At almost ten o'clock at night on New Years the
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: day after New Year's and he's like, hey, you heard.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: About PSL Absolutely, yes, would like to Would you like
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: to come to it? Yes? You know so yeah, well
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: somebody else didn't show up, we have the spot, so
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: you're more than welcome. Okay. So I trained. I was
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: completely self coached. I've forgotte a yeah powerlifting show that
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I had earlier that year, forgone that to just do
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: like four months of strong man strong man.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Prep mm hmm.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: On the on the sixteenth rep of that squat though, yeah,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: I toore my hands drenth so hour on June June
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: first of this year. Oh man, yep, that was so
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: that was fun.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: How did you deal with that tunetoasle Did you just high?
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Just super high bar? It was because yes, absolutely,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: I'm low bar all the way. So in training, I
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: all I did was I kept the percentage pretty close
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: to the max weight of the of the show. I
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: was I'm a comfortable six hundred pounds squatter anytime of
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: the year with equipment. Without equipment, bar neves doesn't matter.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: But training for that is the reps, because no power
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: lifters training, you know, eighty They're eighty percent for m
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: RAP almost on an almost on a weekly basis. What
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I did is I just got those big, squishy pliole boxes,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: and I just got an assortment of different sizes. They
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: went down like four inches. I started up really high
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: and I would just do all these like quarter reps
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: of six hundred, and then I'd move it down four
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: inches like another ten percent. Finally I was able to
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: get comfortable sets of a dozen full range of motion.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: So yeah, smart, really really smart.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Now my powerlifting squat went straight to eight hundred.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. It's it's crazy how they go back and
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: forth and actually help each other. I mean it's kind
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: of like if I can pull, if I can pull
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: five hundred for twenty, I know I'm between seven hundred
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: and fifty and eight hundred from the floor.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: It's just one of those things, and so you don't
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: have to beat yourself up. It's still beating yourself up,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: but you don't have to beat yourself up as bad.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: But there's a trick with the two inch acksle that
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: you could low bar it too.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Really, yeah, I don't have as much real estate up
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: here as it's not the real estate.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: It's not. That's not what does it? Okay, your wrists,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: your hands, right, piece of tape, put it here, Put
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: it all the way down to here, four of them
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: in your hands. Tape one piece around here, two pieces
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: around here, but make it so you can still close
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: your hand to tape your wrist like you'd be taping
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: your wrist. Come down here, put another piece of tape,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: then put your wrist traps on. Go squat, I'm gonna move.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Nope. And I don't remember there being rules against like
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: athletic tape and at PSL either.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Nope. Did that World Strongest Man after I learned that
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: In twenty eleven, Eddie beat me by one rep in
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: the squad World's Strongest Man, And it was because my
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: wrists were just getting bent back. And you see in
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the finals, I got these, I got my biceps taped
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: up because it like just nearly destroyed my biceps. So
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: then in the twenty eighteen World Strongest Man, we had
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: that squad again. I take my wrists. I did eight
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: reps and co tied for first in that event. It
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: works pretty good. I was able to low bart and
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: didn't have any problem home on.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: You lost once and you took it personally as a powerlifter.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Yep, exactly so. But that's a little trick with that
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: that'll really make a big difference when you're trying to
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: squad with a two inch acksle because those things just
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: want to go down your back.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what the majority had, especially when they
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: hit the blocks. I could tell a lot of guys
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: did not train to their actual depth mm. One thing
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: that people were screwing up, so they would actually go
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: all the way down to correct depth where their hips
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: were below the top of the knee m hm. And
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: you had Tyler and uh Greg, Pope Joy and Bobby
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Thompson all vetting these depths so they were death and
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: oh wait, I'm sorry. And Chad cooy of course, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: he was there chirping and every single one that wasn't
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: hitting depth.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love. I can still call Chad Cooy old man.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: The uh uh, the fact the fact that I got
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: complimented about my depth by Chad. I've taken that with
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: me every day.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Oh you should. Absolutely, it looked great. I was watching
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: the video earlier today. I was just like, thank you,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Holy cow.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't have You wouldn't have been able to tell
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: that I tore my hamstring because of how happy I was. No.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you came out there. You just got this big
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: old smile on your face, and I'm like, wow, that
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: was freaking cool.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I was just happy to have a squad event.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: All these other strong man did not care to have
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: a squat man. I was the only one that was excited.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and it should be squat that you can
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: squat pretty damn good. I think you can probably do
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: a whole a lot more.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: My lifetime goal is a thousand raw, so m h.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and what weight class.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. I just want a thousand. Wrong, because
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: nobody asked what weight class you squated a thousand raw,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: and they just wanted to squat a thousand.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: That's true. They don't they don't, so, but.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry you waigh to seventy. Oh see, it would
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: have been impressive if you were two forty nobody else
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: so how much Now I walk around at two thirty
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: two thirty five, I've never been above two forty ever.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, and you're squatting eight oh five pretty comfortably that
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: weight right now?
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: I was. I squatted. Uh, I squatted eight oh five
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: in my prep for the WPF Worlds. I was two
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: twenty five, so yeah, but I wasn't like I wasn't
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: maintaining or losing. I was just coasting whatever. If healthy
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: is healthy.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: So I think two sixty five would probably be your
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: magic number.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Historically, looking I looked up men's like the best men's
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: powerlifters and strongmen in their heights versus their weights. Right
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: for powerlifting, I should not be at two twenty anymore.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Minimum two forty two, majority two sixty five and strong man.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: It goes both ways, right, relatively speaking, at my height,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: I'm a great two thirty one. There's been other amazing
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: two thirty ones that have I mean, you had Nick Camby,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: he was a one O five, Anthony Anthony Furman one.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: I mean other great one o fives that have come out,
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: done bigger and better things outside of one O five.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: But around the six foot mark is where they all are.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think at that weight you'll be able to
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: handle all the static stuff that everybody else is. It's
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: just going to be some of the explosive events like
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: the BAP tosses or getting the stones up to the
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: higher platforms and stuff like that. That's the type of
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: stuff where technique and learning how to use implements that
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: are within the rules, Like you could probably load the
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: heavy stones, you just gotta catch it on the belt.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's that's the issue I have, is that,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: like I have plenty of Yeah, I have plenty of
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: strength to pick and lap. Afore the heaviest I've lapped
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: is a four to twenty stone, plenty of strength right
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: off the floor. Yeah, not not the rest to get
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: it to a fifth at least a fifty inch platform though, Yeah,
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter. And it doesn't help that I'm,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: you know, shorter than all the other guys that are
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: doing that weight.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. But there's no rules against boots either.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: No, there's not. And looking back at some of your videos,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: I would just why is he wearing boots? Is it
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: just comfortable? That's why I was wearing boots Yeah, it's
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: like no, because he's shorter than all the other mass
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: monsters that are out there.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: So everything that a Brian Shaw height.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: So when you're doing stones, put some boots on, you
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: pick up an extra three inches. It makes a difference.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: It makes a difference, just just that much able to
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: get it up and the little pop it'll go right
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: up on top.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Stone picking at a deficit.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, Well if you notice the look at the
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: way I picked stones though, I don't get all the
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: way underneath the stones, no, I'm on the nges, just
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: past the apex.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And you also don't stand all the way on
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: top of them either, correct, mm hmm.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Pull them straight up, stuff like dead lift them.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Land mine row.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Are yell from hell.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: It's just one it's it's just the land mine rows.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: If you do those for training, well that's the whole point.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Some like uh lighter sandbag rdls from just like
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: floor to shoulder, one fluid, you know, just one motion. Yeah,
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: that'd beye mobility.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to do stuff like that. We go
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: and get like a two hundred and twenty pound bag
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: and then just throw over each other's shoulder. I go,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: you go, I go, you go, I go, you go.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: We do that, so we couldn't do it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: Somebody throws up. Yep, No, we just keep going through
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: even after.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: You know, as long as you could keep going. We
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: kept going and ended up around ten to twelve sometimes
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen reps. But we were worked after that. We
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: were done. It was like the last thing we do.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: It'd be conditioning, or to do the carrying drags. We
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: always used to do, like the two hundred and fifty
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: pounds or three hundred pounds sandbag for like twenty five
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: pounds for twenty five meters and then drag it back.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: We do a couple sets of those and you were
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: just gassed, or the cake or the keg and sand
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: bag loading mid least, we'd do a lot out in
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: the heat. Yeah, so it's one hundred and ten degrees outside.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: We'd be on the street doing that. You know. You'd
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: load a three hundred and thirty pound keg, a two
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: hundred ninety five pound keg, a two hundred and seventy
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: five pounds sand bag, and a two hundred and fifty
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: pounds sound bag.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have some. You'd have some that like the
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: ones in Africa, where you'd be trudging through a river.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, doing those carries, and then if you dropped
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: it in the water, you just made it heavier.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: The only bag out of the water was an incentive.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Very much so. The only the only good part about
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: that was but you don't realize those bags weren't full
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: of sand.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: They were full of rocks there. Oh okay, yeah that
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: was sand. That'd been terrible.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Well, they were. They were worse with the rocks because
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: it hurt.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm sure that they can. You know, gravel.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: It was more gravel than it was like rock ross.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: So they were small, but the water would flow through them.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: It's still making it heavier at least. Yeah, it's not
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: gonna be if it was like yeah, you'd be screwed.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kitties play sand. Yeah, it just went from
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: three hundred to four hundred.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, guys, we're getting pretty close to that hour,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: and so uh, let's shift gears. I hate to break
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: down a conversation, but we could get it could go
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: on forever, trust me.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really good. My fault, No.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's a right.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Hey, Like I said, part of my job is to
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: make sure that we stay on task, and uh, sometimes
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: it's hard to pull the rip cord. But uh, actually,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: before we end today's show, I wanted to actually talk
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: about the Rogue Invitational since we're are fresh off of it.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Literally just happened.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: This weekend and it was a pretty gnarly show, you
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And we don't have to go
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: through every event, but uh, you know, we can just
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: talk about the go through the leader board and you
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: kind of just discuss what we thought as for the
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: whole day, you know what I'm saying.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Mm hm.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: So you know, uh, we'll start at number nine, Patty
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Hayes at twenty one points. You know, I've seen him
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: at World's Strongest Man for the first time last year
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: and talk about a strong light. You know, he's not tall,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: he's not light, he's not heavy, but man, he's got movement.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, he's quick, He's real quick, and he's not
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: bad on the static strength He's not. He's he's going
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: to be hell to deal with for a while because
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: if you give him any speed events, he's good Yeah
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: at misery events. Speed events and misery events. So long
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: distance carrying things. Yeah, you're yeah, he's gonna be a
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: lot for people to deal with. So he'll be a
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: little bit short on some of the static stuff, but
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: he'll hold his own enough to where on the good
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: events he can, he'll sneak in there and break stuff
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: up really well.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when you think about how you feel about
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Patty there, Jeff.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Patty and I are the same age, so and I
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: mean he's much larger than me though, So it's good
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: to see, you know. I guess that I think of
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: myself as really young in the sport, and obviously guys
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: like Reino and Patty being as young as they are
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: competing comfortably at that level at least top ten. I mean,
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: he is statically strong, but mainly movement based. Any I think,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: you know, like we were talking earlier, makes this experience.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: I'm sure. I'm sure in a couple of years he's
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: going to be just dominating podiums.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I agree with that.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: The biggest problem with the younger guys is they get
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: into this and they start doing real and get invited
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: and everything, start owning everything. Big mistake, big mistake. And
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: you see, guys, that's why.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: I've forgotten OSG this year. Lynn Morehouse reached out to
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: me personally on a phone call and invited me to OSG.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: And as much as everybody has told me that I
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: would be on the podium, as much as I believe
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: myself that I could be on the podium, I just
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: know I'm tapped out. I've competed six times this year
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: all you know, like national, national, international level shows and
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: setting records at every show I've been to. It's you know,
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: I don't want to call it and that's important, and
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: that's important that you know already lost one hamstring this year.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That's how you're going to last. It's it's
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: that type of foresight. That's how you're gonna last. Keeping
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: it to five six shows a year at most and
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: then coming in and being ready for the shows, you know,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: and get your body downtime so you can train and
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: do that. The only person there's a couple of guys
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: that seem to be successful at that, Sojournis being one
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: of them. But so Journa's was so far ahead of everybody.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: When you go to these contests in Europe, the weights
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: were all lighter. He was just stronger than everybody else.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: So it was just a decent training pay for him,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: you know. So it's he was able to win so
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: many shows that way and smart good on him because
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: that's the way he got his training. And plus he
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: got used to traveling and all the other stuff and
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: all the things you had to deal with that with
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: food and stuff like that. He was very there's nothing
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: that guy didn't know. It really wasn't to be prepared
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: for a show. But that is Brian. You know, Brian
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: lasted forever. Brian did like three four major shows a
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: year and that's it. That's it, maybe two or three
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: sometimes and he would get ready, come out and just
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: let it fly. So longevity is the key to this.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: And you know, if you're not what he's the shows,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: his training and you actually go try to win him,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: you know, keeping that number under six or seven is
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: pretty darn smart. So good job job, all.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Right, exactly.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we have number eight at Rhin O'Neill.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: He was, you know, twenty twenty five world strongest man
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: at twenty eight point five points. You know, I know
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: he's he's uh the youngest, uh was it? They said
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: fifteen years since a rookie came in and won World's
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Strongest Man and.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: The only South South African.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and I you know, you
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: I didn't know what to expect. They didn't know what
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: I was gonna see, you know what I'm saying. But
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: also to the rogue is heavy.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, and he's young. The rogue is really heavy,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: and there's some really odd efense, you know, pushing that,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: pushing that like I don't know whatever they call that.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Sol in like the Yoka s splater and stuff like that.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was freaking brutally and if he's not prepared
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: for stuff like that and doesn't know what's coming, it's
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit of a shock. And this
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: contest didn't have a lot of his strengths in it anyway.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: But it was good. It was good for him to come.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: It was good for him to compete and get more
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: experience and get a show like that underneath his belt
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: because he's got a title of Defend coming up.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: So yep, it's good.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: And then we have number six, Thomas Evans. Thomas Evans
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: actually we talked about him, had him on our previous
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: show Legends of Iron and on the Best Experience of
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: numerous times.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: And.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, I did all. Austin pardoned me. Austin, I completely missed.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I just glanced at my screen Austin Androtte and I've
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: actually had him on my show and he wants to
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: be on the on the show as a guest too,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: so we definitely need to get him on.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: And he came in at thirty points.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a good show, But I think it just.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: A couple of events, huh, another young guy like all
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: the all three of the Last Good Guys are thirty, yeah, thirty,
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: twenty nine and twenty eight yep. Yeah.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: And then Big Tom Evans came in. He got that's it.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: We watched his career grow as he's come up in
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: this scene because we've had him on from when he
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: was he just won the Shot Classic all the way
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: to his first World Strongest Man.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I think Thomas did pretty good at the
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Strongest Man on Earth. Yeah, and that show's pretty darn heavy.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: And then he got ready and came into the Rogue
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: and you know, just a different type of show. So
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: he's still still hanging in there. I mean he was
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: tired exactly.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: And Bryce Johnson at five with thirty four point five,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: like I said, tied with Thomas Bryce's scan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: He is ridiculously strong, good head on his shoulders.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: Man, he's wide, he's wide and tall.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and nicest guy you'll ever meet, he really is.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: He's really nice, dude. I don't his potential where he
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: could go with this. It's kind of scary because he's
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: improving by leaps and bounds. I mean from year to year,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: year to year. It's not like a small jumps, they're like,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: so he does that a couple more years and he
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: could be winning all these things. They're pretty darn close
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: to it. So in fourth we have Lucas Hatton at
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: thirty seven point five points.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, surprised, Hey, same same, I was surprised. I was
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: looking for second place, third place for him.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: To fall, yes, and but uh, you know eight, he.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Just like I said, the second place, the strongest man
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: on Earth just did strongest word America's strongest man and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: then immediately into the rogue that you know, like that
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: could have been a strategy plan that might have heard
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: him a little bit.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Just fatigue? I mean, you were all humans, so and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: and he had three major shows within six months.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: So yep, agreed. Yes, I figured he'd be first or
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: second in this show.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: A lot of incident for him.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: But exactly.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Fourth by a point is not bad. And you had
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: the guys with all kinds of heart because I think
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: he was in seventh place after the first two events.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: That would be Tom Tom and made podium.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: So yes, he did. That's that's exactly.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: Him not being so good on the y escalator definitely
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: put him back.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so exactly. And then the big Thicket himself.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Trey, you know, yeah, Trey, you know, fun guy,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: hilarious guy. I always enjoy hanging out with him when we're.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: At the shows. Man, super strong, super strong.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: And it got with thirteen reps on which.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: On the on the shoulder press, no Viking press. No,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: that was twenty two.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Trey got twenty two.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty two. Yeah, Yeah, there you go. I had
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: a mixed up twenty two which was insane.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was either going to be him or Lucas.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I figured. I figured
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: to be one of the two of them first or second.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: And in that and Trey, Trey, Trey came out with
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: the overhead press this week, so that's that's good. I
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: mean he put up, he did it. He put up
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: twenty two, which is absolutely.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Insane, insane.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy because, like I said, Tray just
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: started using a suit for deadlifting because he's been doing
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: it without a suit for so long. You know, once
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: he dials that in his deadlift is gonna fucking just
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: be through the roof.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: It's a pretty big difference to do with the blood
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: pressure on that and get used to pay you need
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: at least a good what do you think, Jeff? Probably
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: six to eight weeks pulling in a tight suit to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: get used to it.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes, absolutely. I mean the first time I throw
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: in a suit, I thought that it's like, oh the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: gear does it for me? And then I almost pass
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: out getting into position.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Exactly. It's just like, oh my god. And then you
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: take a nap.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and to take a nap. And I had set
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: up to get into conventional which doesn't make sense.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So like watching I remember watching Eddie set up,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: it was the same way. Yeah, me eat it exactly.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: It's like Boom pulls eleven hundred pounds. You're just like, yeah,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: I tell you what. The most impressive deadlift I've ever
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: seen him do. Was that the twenty seventeen Worlds on
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: this span he dead because there we were using an
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: axle that year.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he did.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: One thousand and forty seven on an axle. The bar
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: did not move, It did not get.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: It's I guess.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all these guys that are deadlifting and all this
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: weight the bar is given, you know that much before
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: the weights come off the ground. I think he got
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: all thousand and forty one before the bar came off
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: the ground.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: That's it anyway, I digress, and.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Then we get on to the guy who won.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, Mitchell whoa.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Ay it showed up. Yep, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: He made a statement here at this show, and I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: definitely feel the you know, not competing it. August Man
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: on Earth, you know, rested himself up, got himself prepared,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: set up that training, and Mitchell Hooper is who Mitchell
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Hooper is.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like a lot of things in his
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: life got settled in, Things got got straightened out, and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: he got his head screwed on right. He got some
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: rest that he needed, he got some mental rest that
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: he needed. Seems happy and just came out and let
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: it fly and just kind of reminded me, just kind
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: of reminded everybody, Hey, I'm a freaker. Good luck I'm
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: catching me.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean after his show showing at Giants,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: everybody was just like, nope, he's watched, he's done his
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: heydays over with. I mean he didn't have a major injury. Yeah,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: he just wasn't rested a while going on up here.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Everybody's seen what went on.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: It's all through the internet.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: Love him or hate him, he did exactly what he
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: needed to do to make sure not only he was
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: on the podium, but he only he only didn't take
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: first or second in one event. He was first or
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: second all the way through. So after event for you
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: knew what the podium looked like.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: There's there's because he doesn't make those mistakes.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: No. He also, like we were talking about earlier, like
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: logical athletes. Yeah, most he's one of them. Yeah, you
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: can tell. He like takes apart every little every little
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: movement seeing.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: What He'll come up and he'd be like, what are
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: you doing this? What would you do? I tell him
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: what I do and he'd look at me, I'm gonna
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: try that, and then he goes out and does it
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: and he wins the event. He's like, gives me a heart,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: and he keeps talking and I'm.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, he's Mitchell Hooper's first year at World Shrongest Man.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: He called Nick and was like, hey, well you know
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: and guess what.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: It it worked out for him, And numerous times he's
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: trained at Nick's house, you know what I'm saying, had
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: full on conversations about strategy events, and you know it's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: just like that guy is he's on the point.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably right now in my opinion, he's probably
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: the smartest one doing it pretty much. He can figure
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: out how to do things better than probably everybody else
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: right now, and then he's figured out how to be
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: statically strong on literally everything.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: There's totally agree, Yep.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: Because of the way that he trains, you can you
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: can tell that he's not necessarily great at one thing.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: He's not bad at really anything either, but he's not
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: like he's not like Trey and Lucas are too pressing.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: We know if there's a press event and one of
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: those two names are on there, they're going to make
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: a fool of everybody. Mitch not so much. M No,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: but he he is just really really good at everything.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. He'll be top three. He might not
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: be first or second, but he'll be third.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's and then my points every time.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: Every time, every time.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: So and this is his third Rogue championship, right yep
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: uh or fourth.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: Third, third for first place his first showing he did
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: yet third. So I mean historically he's ever since he's
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: shown up, he's been on the podium.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, and that's been the whirlwind of his career.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Is just podium, podium, podium, And you know, it's it's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: great to see this because like I said, he he's
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: a different size of strong man. And that's the size
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: that's starting to come up now all the young guys,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of you get you're you're getting a lot more,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: not as many power valleys as it used to be.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, bigger is not necessarily better more athletic, but
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: statically sure.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: Because you guys see guys like Reino and Patty and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Mitch like all those, all those type of builds are
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: showing up more and more. They look like something I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: heard somebody say, they look like plus size one, oh fives.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go. Yeah, that's a good way to
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: put it.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Derek back in the day poundstone, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: it was you know, six foot yeah, shredded thirty and shredded,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: you know, and he.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: Looked like he was looked like he was in a
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: bodybuilding for most of the time. Yes, yeah, it does
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: the crazy thing. You look fantastic.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: And it's just like you talked to him, He's like, yeah,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: I ate, uh, I ate a whole sleeve of oreos
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: and then I did that, did that.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: You're just like, oh, it must be nice. Yeah. But
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: other guy yeah, HUDs yeah, mud shredded yeah. And he
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: was also a shorter guy. Yeah, yeah, he was.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, dude. Like I said, it'll be some
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: technique things and then it's you know, wearing bigger boots
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: when you have a certain time, you know, and.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Just there's tricks to the trade.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Nick can only give out when we're off off recording,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: so we'll leave it at that, you know.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: And uh yeah yeah. And you know, like I said,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: I think we've covered quite a bit.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: We didn't cover movies, but you know what, we can
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: always put that off for next week.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: Jeff, thank you for showing up.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you for enjoying us and rambling with us, because, uh,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: you know, it's not too often we get a guess,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: but when we do get a guess, we like to enjoy,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: especially because you got to dig into Nick a little
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: bit more than most people do. So you know what
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I'm saying that that was That was a plus right there,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: because a lot of times I get to hear new
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: things that he forgets to tell me about.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's true.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget a lot of stuff. Now I'm getting old.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Well, we're can we find where? Can?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Oh go ahead, Nick, Jeff you're up for doing this again?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, sir?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, you up for coming here?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Oh don't worry. We'll make that happen.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: So we'll do this again when you come out and train.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: We'll go through Starman stuff, will have fun and partloating stuff, and.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: That'd be great.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Get Ben, Oh yeah, Jeff. Let everybody know where to
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: find you. And I also put it in the show notes.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: My main platforms Instagram, it's my first underscore last name
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: g E O F F Underscore l A N E Y.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: I post daily. I respond to a lot of messages.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: I get a lot of younger guys especially a lot
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: of military individuals asking me questions, especially military first responder
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: l e oh get questions all the time, really high
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: tempo day to day lives. Can't figure out how to train,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: can't figure out how to do X, Y and Z.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: I probably have been there, so please reach out to me.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: I love getting being a part of that community. I
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: love helping out.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: All right, we're doing next time guns. Yeah, please, we
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: didn't get into any not today either, so no.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: Not even a bit when you come out.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, get that fifty cal out mm hmm.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: We keep saying we're gonna blow up a car, but
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: quite haven't done it yet.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: Two hundred pounds of tanner. I will do it.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: We'll do that.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe you know what I'm saying in theory.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, So anyway educational services only.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll have proper fire fire fire department people around
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: that rule permits and things like that that we need to.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Have, you know, we will We will have those, yes.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: So we don't so that doesn't on fire. So yeah, okay, anyway,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: you got anything else?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Oh no, just lead us out here. Everyone.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining the Patreon. We appreciate it. You
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and for those who join, ask
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: your questions, what's your thoughts, philosophy, whatever you want to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: hear ask us and Nick will answer. I will always
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: throw in my own two cents, but I know you
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: really want to hear from Nick, so it's okay.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Jeff, thank you for being on greatly appreciated and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of fun. And I we're turning through
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: more of your stuff next time too, because it wasn't
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: to interview me, it was me to interview you, and
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: it feels like it was the other way around.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: So hey, if I get an hour of undevoted like uninterrupted, Nick,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: best time, I'm going to ask my questions.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Which is cool.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: And I appreciate that you are a living legend, sir,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: and it's an absolute blessing and an honor to be
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: a part of this. Thank you so much for reaching out.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: I would love to do this again. Hopey I can
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: make it out your wife for the next one.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, definitely, definitely.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: Definitely, And everybody else here.
• 1:13:13
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