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What the Blake?! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: getting in the Paradise season. I am doing this podcast
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  Speaker 1: from outside because I watch Paradise and I'm sick of
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  Speaker 1: being stuck inside. I'm going to get outside in my
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  Speaker 1: backyard and do this podcast because you know what, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: what I hand? I'm wearing something tropical too. It kind
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  Speaker 1: of feels nice, doesn't it. Yeah, we came. Um. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: as we get started on this podcast, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: our energy to get any lower than this right here,
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  Speaker 1: because I have a feeling this year in Paradise it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be absolutely epic. Well, there's like nothing to talk
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  Speaker 1: about in this episode besides Blake, I know, and that's tough,
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  Speaker 1: but it's hinting at things that come. Actually, before we
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  Speaker 1: get started, can I share a story? Can I do
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  Speaker 1: story time? Okay? It allowed me to chew my pizza.
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  Speaker 1: Well perfect, Okay, So here's what's happened. Um, I've been
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  Speaker 1: gone for a couple of weeks from Denver. I got
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  Speaker 1: back to Denver, and uh, one of the things I
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  Speaker 1: love most in this world is working my yard. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and so I had some trees that overgrown, so I
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  Speaker 1: had to take my chainsaw to them. I'm out in
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  Speaker 1: my garage and I have and I haven't been home
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  Speaker 1: for a while. My office is in my garage where
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  Speaker 1: I do everything. I spend a lot of my time
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  Speaker 1: in this office. The chainsaw SIT's kind of like right
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  Speaker 1: in front of the door to my office. I reach
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  Speaker 1: out and get my chainsaw, and the spider crawls out
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  Speaker 1: from underneath my chainsaw. Not a big deal, not shocking.
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  Speaker 1: It's a garage in the middle of Denver. However, this
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  Speaker 1: spider has a nice little hourglass red mark on it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a boa My god. I was gonna say this
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  Speaker 1: sounded like a horror movie, like your chainsaw was just
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  Speaker 1: sitting outside, like that's the beginning of a horror movie.
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  Speaker 1: But then the spider came in, and now I'm even
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  Speaker 1: it's actually worse. It's worse here here where it gets worse.
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  Speaker 1: So I take a picture of this black widow and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like messing not messing with it, like I'm not like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like not touching it. It's just sitting there and
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking a picture. I put it on Instagram and
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  Speaker 1: I say something like, hey, I think this is one
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  Speaker 1: of those dangerous spiders that people hear about. I know
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  Speaker 1: what it is. First off, people out there, I am
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  Speaker 1: a little bit like slow, like it takes me a
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  Speaker 1: bit too catch onto things. I'm not that slow. Like
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  Speaker 1: I knew it was a poisonous spider. I knew that
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  Speaker 1: it was dangerous. Then I look up to the ceiling.
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  Speaker 1: I follow the web up to the ceiling. No no,
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  Speaker 1: no more black widows and their nest. Then I would
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  Speaker 1: have died there. Like I know that people, that's an expression,
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  Speaker 1: but I actually would have it froze me, my hair on,
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  Speaker 1: like my body stood up. So then last night I
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  Speaker 1: have a roommate right now, and he was outside talking
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  Speaker 1: to a friend on the phone because I was watching,
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  Speaker 1: uh some TV. And he goes, Ben, you have to
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  Speaker 1: get out here. I walk outside to my backyard that
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting at right now. I look on the side
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  Speaker 1: of my house and guess what's there more black widows.
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  Speaker 1: I would have been I would have black out. I
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  Speaker 1: would have checked out. No, I would have gone to
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  Speaker 1: a hotel. Absolutely, what did you do? Um? I went
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  Speaker 1: to bed? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: Here's here's the thing. Actually, there's a sense of me
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  Speaker 1: that like I've always wanted to have a little more
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  Speaker 1: of an edge than I have, And I feel like
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  Speaker 1: the black widows coming to my property and joining me
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  Speaker 1: in my like home is showing that like they sense
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  Speaker 1: my edge, like they know I'm dangerous. Can they kill you? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: But if they bite you, yeah, I have eight spider
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  Speaker 1: bite on my chest right now. Wait, bug, bites of
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  Speaker 1: some kind not disturb you greatly, Amy, because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like you are definitely scared. Once in the emergency room. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well that's very amy. Yeah, this is why I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: this story. It's gonna tie it in the Paradise. I
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  Speaker 1: heard a story from Paradise this year, and I think
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  Speaker 1: we want to mention it a few weeks ago, but
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  Speaker 1: I want to mention again because it reminded me last
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  Speaker 1: night of watching the show I have. There's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a moment this season Paradise that that Ashley and I
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  Speaker 1: show up. I can't really talk about where and how
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  Speaker 1: and when, but we we show up. They showed you
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  Speaker 1: in the super tease. We're at a wedding. It's like
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  Speaker 1: pretty obvious. But during this wedding I got an inside
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  Speaker 1: scoop that one night, while the cast was sleeping in Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a beautiful spot in Paradise, but it's open air,
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  Speaker 1: a snake crawled into the bed of the girls. She
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  Speaker 1: snakes don't scare me like spiders. It doesn't matter if
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  Speaker 1: a snake trawled into my bed as I'm sleeping. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be weird. If a snake crawled into my bed,
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  Speaker 1: or a spider, like let's say a charantula being in
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  Speaker 1: Paradise crawled into my bed, absolutely would welcome the snake
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  Speaker 1: over it? M m a mouse or a snake a mouse?
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  Speaker 1: I mean Amy One time woke up she actually slept
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  Speaker 1: next to it was a chipmunk, dead chipmunk in my bed.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know she slept with a dead chipmunk in
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  Speaker 1: her bed for two nights. Amazing. Well, this is where
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  Speaker 1: I want to tie this in. Listeners, We love you,
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  Speaker 1: You're the best. We kind of feel like we're on
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  Speaker 1: vacation right now because it's Paradise season and it's one
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  Speaker 1: of our favorite seasons, and it's a little less I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, it feels it's gonna be heavy. Write us in.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know and tag the almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: or emails its been an Ashley I hurt me dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Would you rather be stuck and like a tub or
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  Speaker 1: like a hole with a bunch of mice, a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of snakes, or a bunch of spiders. Anybody who says
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  Speaker 1: that like that they would least want to be with
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  Speaker 1: the mice is whacked out. I might choose mice. You
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  Speaker 1: you're more scared of mice than spiders or snakes. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm really confused right now. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm relating to these spiders and ways I never thought
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  Speaker 1: I could. Right now, you're such a we We should
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  Speaker 1: continue and talk about the episode, but I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: home and think about you with your black widows all day.
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  Speaker 1: What do you guys think of Jpj's speedo? I mean yours?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, nobody has ever want
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  Speaker 1: to be worn a speedo in Paradise before, but John
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  Speaker 1: Paul Jones of course debuted it. Let's start at the beginning, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: I want to know j p j. Speedo is an
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  Speaker 1: incredible topic, but I want to know overall as we
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  Speaker 1: get started. You're an expert on Paradise, So I just
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  Speaker 1: want to kind of grill you. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: of the cast this year? Kind of holistically? Are you
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  Speaker 1: excited about this cast? Are they missing anything? Star casts? Why? Like?
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  Speaker 1: What what separates this cast from past cast? There's like
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  Speaker 1: nobody who decided not to come, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like usually like you're like I can't believe so and
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  Speaker 1: so didn't come, and then but this season it's like
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  Speaker 1: everyone came. I kind of after talking to people and
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  Speaker 1: tell me if you think I'm crazy here, after talking
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  Speaker 1: to more and more people from the franchise as they
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  Speaker 1: get off the show and everything it used to be
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  Speaker 1: where Paradise was kind of like I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it or not, Like it feels like
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  Speaker 1: it's like kind of like selling out. It's a little weird.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel fun. I feel like now the vibe
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  Speaker 1: is I hope I get asked to Paradise. Back in
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  Speaker 1: my season season two, I was all like, they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: want me to do Paradise and I'm not sure I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna want to because it's kind of like trashy and
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  Speaker 1: nobody really watches it and I don't know how I
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  Speaker 1: feel about it dating like a whole bunch of people
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  Speaker 1: what I don't know. I didn't like the thought of it.
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  Speaker 1: My parents were like, I don't know if we want
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  Speaker 1: you to do that, and then of course I did it,
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  Speaker 1: and then it became the phenomenon. Do you think it
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  Speaker 1: all has to do with the idea that Bachelor's and
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  Speaker 1: maybe here soon we haven't seen you, but possibly bachelorettes
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  Speaker 1: are going to be people that have gone on Paradise. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we've already seen Nick and Colton become leads from Paradise. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So like they've seen it, but
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  Speaker 1: like it's working because the fans are tied into their stories. Um,
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  Speaker 1: they get to know the people a little bit better.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think one of the reasons why people are
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  Speaker 1: so excited about it, including the women, is that you know,
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  Speaker 1: one day this might lead to them being lead. Yeah, totally,
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  Speaker 1: there's potential in that. I think people, um aren't turned
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  Speaker 1: off from doing it because now they still know that
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  Speaker 1: can actually help your chances. It could probably help your
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  Speaker 1: chances more than hurt at this point, you know, unless
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  Speaker 1: you're in the top three, in which like maybe you
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  Speaker 1: should be a little bit more careful. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to underestimate, like your story, Ash, it's working. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it works more than the other show
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  Speaker 1: it does. But statifically good relationships coming out of this
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  Speaker 1: consistently every season, there's good relationships coming out of this.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a relationship from every single season, um,
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  Speaker 1: except for the first season. Let's go through in order
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  Speaker 1: right now. Jade Tanner for the first one, Carly and
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  Speaker 1: Evan from the second one, Me and Jared from collectively
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  Speaker 1: two and three, UM, four, Adam and Raven and five
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  Speaker 1: is this year, and Chris Chris and Chris yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: then the yeah, Kevin and are still together. And then
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  Speaker 1: there's another couple that's still dating too, and I'm missing
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  Speaker 1: who that is. I saw this on like The Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: of Paradise still dating, So there you go. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: we all like one of the common questions when I
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  Speaker 1: got The Bachelor was does it really work? Like do
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  Speaker 1: you really think it can work? I think Paradise is
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  Speaker 1: proving that question completely, Like, yes, it definitely can work totally,
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  Speaker 1: which is awesome. It's good for everybody. Hey, So with
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  Speaker 1: that sentiment and that kind of energy, let's walk into
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  Speaker 1: the first episode of Paradise. Ashley. We said it before
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  Speaker 1: as we were talking, We've got more and more emails
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  Speaker 1: about this, so many opinions, but this episode really did
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  Speaker 1: kind of revolve around Blake. But for the sake of
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  Speaker 1: our conversation, who else are you excited about watching this season? Demi? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Demi, I should probably stoped beating
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  Speaker 1: the pizza SORR guests. So I think Demi, because we
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  Speaker 1: all know that storyline is going to be unique to
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. Um. She had a conversation with Hannah at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode about how she sees herself
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  Speaker 1: as sexually fluid, so that should be really interesting. She
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  Speaker 1: had somebody that she was seeing at home that was
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  Speaker 1: a girl, but it seems like she was hitting it
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  Speaker 1: off with Derek in Paradise. And then I think we're
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  Speaker 1: all very excited, well to Blake, but besides Blake um
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  Speaker 1: Kalin and how she can how she's gonna like get
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  Speaker 1: just exposed Blake. That'll be super fun to what nobody
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  Speaker 1: think that. It was interesting how she kept talking about, well,
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  Speaker 1: he wants me to keep this a secret, and it's
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  Speaker 1: a secret, and it's a big secret. But she just
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  Speaker 1: incessantly talked that they did. I noticed that too, Like
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  Speaker 1: there's three different sections of the episode where she basically
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  Speaker 1: says the exact same thing. They really just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be Like, you guys get this right, you get how
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  Speaker 1: crazy and gross this is. Yeah, this whole thing, here's
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  Speaker 1: my first opinion. And friends with Blake, so and like
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  Speaker 1: this is like, let's preface it by saying this Paradise
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  Speaker 1: gets super awkward for us because we are like way
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  Speaker 1: more friends with the Paradise cast than we are with
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  Speaker 1: the leads of the show. Because you know, the leads
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  Speaker 1: of the show, they are like, you know, running things
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  Speaker 1: and they don't get time to like go on these
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  Speaker 1: I heard trips with us and hang out. They are
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  Speaker 1: like you know they we like interview them like we
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  Speaker 1: interviewed them, interview them. But with the Bachelor Paradise cast,
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  Speaker 1: we like hang out with them. So it's definitely like
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  Speaker 1: we teeter tar this fine line. We have to like
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  Speaker 1: kind of critique our friends, but then we also like
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  Speaker 1: celebrate our friends. We literally I have to like criticize
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  Speaker 1: poor little Annelie's who's one of our very good friends.
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  Speaker 1: But I did think she I'm getting the feeling she's
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  Speaker 1: sticking her nose where where it doesn't belong with that yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because she wants to get with the Angela drama with
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  Speaker 1: Clay and Clay's making they're making it seem like Angela
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  Speaker 1: and Clay like left things off on a good note.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think they did, based only what I
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  Speaker 1: know off scene. So as Amy was saying, antlyst is
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  Speaker 1: one of our closest friends, Blake Ashley's right, this gets
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  Speaker 1: weird for me, um because in all transparency, Blake and
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  Speaker 1: I met before he went on Paradise like a night
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  Speaker 1: before he went to discuss like that, you mean the Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't meet Blake. Oh you met up with Blake.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't meet it for the first time you met.
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  Speaker 1: We met to discuss and talk and like mostly a
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  Speaker 1: lot of this I didn't realize. And I have my
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and our emails are kind of mixed here, and
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  Speaker 1: I have a couple of things that I just don't
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  Speaker 1: quite understand. But before we get to Blake, because if
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  Speaker 1: we start talking about Blake now, this podcast is gonna
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  Speaker 1: end in ten minutes, because really that's all the show was.
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  Speaker 1: And it feels like what this first couple episodes are
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  Speaker 1: gonna be our entrances this year. And so there's a
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  Speaker 1: few people that I didn't recognize. Obviously we know J
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  Speaker 1: p J. I mean that dude. If you want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about a guy who could light up a room
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  Speaker 1: no matter where he goes, and a dude that I
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  Speaker 1: just think you want around all the time, he lives
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  Speaker 1: up to it. Oh yeah, I mean everybody was obsessed
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  Speaker 1: with him, and we can at least tell you guys
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  Speaker 1: that when we were at the wedding, everybody's like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, job Paul doesn't my best friend. He's our
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  Speaker 1: best friend. He's the best now. Demmi. Demmi is is
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  Speaker 1: somebody that I have had a complete one eighties switch on,
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  Speaker 1: mostly because she yelled at me, not yelled at me.
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  Speaker 1: She's very kind in her in her confrontation of me
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  Speaker 1: at an event we did together, and she's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you bad mouth me on your podcast. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I did, deny. She's like, you called me a pest,
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  Speaker 1: and like I did, didn't I? And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, My thought now is that Demmy isn't
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  Speaker 1: a pest. Demmy is like one of those people that
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  Speaker 1: says whatever it is she's thinking without in the concern
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  Speaker 1: for repercussion. Yeah, you had a switch of the light.
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  Speaker 1: The light switch flipped with you with Demi and then
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  Speaker 1: for me with Kaylin because I was all like, I
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  Speaker 1: was so thinking that she had like these mean girl
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  Speaker 1: tendencies on Colton season and I was very outspoken about it.
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  Speaker 1: And then I got to hang out with her for
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  Speaker 1: an extended period of time and I'm like, I take
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  Speaker 1: her like everything that I said. I like you so much.
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  Speaker 1: She's so easy to talk to you and get along with.
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  Speaker 1: We had just like a very nice compatible personality thing,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, whoops my mistake, just like whoop spends mistake. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and granted I'm doing this all from my
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  Speaker 1: like what I'm watching on the show, and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times the show does highlight people's characteristics, and I
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  Speaker 1: would say, to Demmi's face on The Bachelor, there's moments
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  Speaker 1: where she was a pest, but a a very strategic pest,
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  Speaker 1: meaning she was speaking the truth, she was speaking from
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  Speaker 1: the heart. She just said everything at all moments and
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  Speaker 1: put people into crazy situations, and I don't necessarily blame
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  Speaker 1: her for it. Yeah. So it's like we do on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, try to talk from a fan's perspective because
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  Speaker 1: oftentimes when we start talking about these people, we don't
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  Speaker 1: know them, but we are allowed to change our opinion
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  Speaker 1: once we do meet them. Yeah, I think so, speaking
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  Speaker 1: of change of opinion, I've had zero opinion. Ever, I
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  Speaker 1: have no clue who this guy is. One guy would
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  Speaker 1: like to highlight is Kevin. Kevin shows up to the
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  Speaker 1: beach rips his shirt off. Who is this guy? Ash?
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  Speaker 1: He was from Hannah season and he talked very little. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: now he got jacked for Paradise. Yeah, I know, it
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  Speaker 1: was really cute. Do you think it's cute. I I
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  Speaker 1: think it's adorable. It's endearing because he cares. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: all try to look really great our first Paradise and
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  Speaker 1: then the second time you're like whatever, because you just
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  Speaker 1: give up. I would be so nervous about Paradise just
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  Speaker 1: because everybody there, I mean we saw like everybody there
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  Speaker 1: is just ripped or in great shape. And I would
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  Speaker 1: show to the beach and just kind of chill, like
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the nachos and the tequila. I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna say, like, once you get there, it doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: matter anymore, because to entertain yourself throughout the day, you
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  Speaker 1: have to eat. It's the only form of entertainment besides
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  Speaker 1: speaking to each other. And the food is so good,
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  Speaker 1: and the tropical drinks with all the sugar, they're everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, never mind, forget about the body.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I'll just lie here with the sarong around my waist.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: M hmm. Just wonderful life. The other person that we
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: have to talk about showing up to the beach uh
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: is Kris Bukowski. Actually, your thoughts on Kris Bukowski coming
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: back to Paradise for the record number of times that
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: he's been on on the franchise. Okay, yeah, So we
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: got an email somebody saying I thought that Nick Vial
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: held the record for most appearances in Bachelor history. Will
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: technically no, lots of us are tied with Nick. Now
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Nick had four appearances and I had four. Dean is
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: now at four, and there's a couple other people, so
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: four is like nothing these days. Chris Bukowski, I want
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to say, this is his sixth appearance? Should I go
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: you in brainstorm? Which ones they're? Which ones? He was on?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Started with m l A season. Hey, Amy, as you're
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: sitting there, do you mind looking up as Ashley's thinking
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: how many times Chris Bukowski has been on? Because actually
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you, do you respect this or
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: is this kind of like too many? Too many to
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: choose too many times? Well? I um I respected him
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: retiring back in Bachelor in Paradise too, that that was
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: a funny moment. And now after his explanations saying that
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: he was in a serious relationship for two years and
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: now he's out of it and really looking for something
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: serious and he's grown up a lot, I'm totally down
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: for him to be back, especially since he's seems so
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: self aware and he has such a good sense of
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: humor about himself right now, and I think he used
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: to take himself a bit too seriously. But I love
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the curse that we've been seeing so far on this season.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: And by the way, um we got the fact it
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: is six appearances. He hasn't been a real cast member
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: on that many seasons, but he has made six appearances,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: including the one time that he tried to get on
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Andy Dorfman's season but failed. I still want to know
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the behind the scenes to that, Like what exactly happened there?
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Did he really come to l a know, the night
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: of the first night and just show up to the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: mansion to think I could do this technically if you've
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: been part of the show before, I feel like it's
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: not that hard to do that. That's wild to me,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: That's weird. I just that that part, I mean, Chris
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: seems like I agree this is a good chance for
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: him to show his true showing up to the mansion
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: on night one is a really like aggressive move. Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And I think it's like a little egotistical of being like, oh,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you know what, I should just be able to integrate
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: myself into this group, and she totally wants me to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: be here, you know, but I feel like he is
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: much more grounded. Now, Okay, so let's now jump into
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the women because we could talk about Cam and we
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: could talk about Wills. Cam showed at the beach as
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: confident as we've ever seen. I'm surprised based on how
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: his time on The Bachelor I ended, But I bet
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Cam will be a store, have a story or two.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: We also a part of the guys group have obviously Blake, Dylan, Derek, Kevin, Wills, Cam, JPJ,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Chris b uh and Clay On. On the women's side,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: we have Hannah g one of our personal favorites here
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: on the podcast. She blew us away when she came
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: to studio. We thought that Paradise. I think we assume
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that Paradise for her would be wild based on how
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: much attention she's gonna get. Yes, absolutely, do you still
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: think that's the case. Princess of Paradise. You know, if
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: in this franchise, if there's a queen right now, it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Hannah By And if there's a princess, it's probably Hannah Gy.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: The guys love her, love her and it makes sense.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: She's beautiful, she's confident, she's like cool and collected. She's
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: definitely cool, Like that's the thing. She's well spoken, but cool.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I kind of get the sense, here's my thing. Actually,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Hannah Gee is one of those women that most men
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: are going to be, at least from what I know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: like us pad intimidated to be around. Like it's they're
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: not gonna I'm wondering this season if we see a
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: guy and we've obviously seen Dylan kind of breakthrough right away,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: but it is he gonna be able to give up
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: his oh my gosh, like she's weighed on my league
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: mentality to say no, she's just awesome and she likes me.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I think he'll break out of it if they continue on.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I think that that scene was the most endearing cute
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: scene in the entire episode, Like hands down. He I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: loved how he had admitted that he was nervous. I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: love that he admitted that this was like a dream
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: come true for him and that he thought that she
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: was out of his league. I'm like, he's saying all
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the right things because I think for girls, that's really
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: cute to see a guy that you're attracted to act
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: that way, like to be so humble to be in
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: your presence. So before we get into producer Amy has
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: a great question that I want to ask here in
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: this scenario, but before we do this, and I want
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to take this moment to dive a little deeper. I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: don't think Dylan is saying all the right things because
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: he's thinking about it. I think he's saying saying these
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: things because I really think he doesn't know what else
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to say other than Hannah, you're out of my league.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I like you a lot. I've dreamed of this moment,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: like when when I watch you on television, you're like
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the woman that I would give up everything for. I honestly,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: actually I don't want to put words in his mouth,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: but there's moments during this episode that I thought he
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: was just gonna look at her and say I love you,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: like I just like I don't know what to do.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: It was cute because it was like a guy was
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: getting his celebrity crush in that moment, you know, like
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: he definitely idolizing her on her on TV. He even said,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: like I've been waiting so long to kiss you, right,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: but like they've only known each other for twenty four hours.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: By that, How cool is that? I mean, that's a
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: great Are they so produce? Jamy has this question, are
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: they the new Joe and Kindle? Do you think? Um?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't think to connect them immediately because I think
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Joe was like, so everybody thought Joe was super hot,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and everybody liked Kendall too. But like, I think this
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: is more like a Jade and Tanner situation where she
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: was like the sexy one coming off of her season,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: and Tanner was kind of the guy that nobody really remembered.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: He just kind of flew by the seat of his
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: pants the entire season, and the Bachelorette never really gave
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: him much attention. Good point. Well, another person that another
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: woman I want to highlight um that I think just
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: struck me during this episode is how beautiful Katie is.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I remember her being beautiful, but her eyes are like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: like even through the television screen, you're just like, holy cow,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: they're so insane. She's so pretty insane. Okay, So we
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: also we have Hannah Gee, we have Katie, we have
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Sydney Tasia uh Demi on Ka. We also have Jane Annalis,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Bibiana Bibiana one of our favorites, Nicole and Kalin Ashley.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Is this the year that Bibiana finds love on television?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's she's so do for it. Speaking of
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: four timers, Bibby is actually a four timer, having done
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Ari season, Winter Games and now two consecutive seasons of
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. She has to I have no idea
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: why this woman keeps having bad luck on these shows,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: because she's so stunning, and she has an amazing personality
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and it's obviously got a brain too. I really like
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Bibiana for so many reasons. When when jess and I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: met Bibiana, Bibiana is one of those people that kind
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, Jessica came and uh is with me,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: uh during this time in Mexico, and she's nervous like
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: she is, she's not she's never done this thing before,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and uh, there's you a lot of things swirling around her.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: And it took a few people, yourself included, to really
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: wrap jess up in their arms and say, hey, welcome
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to the family. And for me, like it almost back then,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: not anymore, but like brought me to tears because like
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: it just means a lot for me to see, like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: my friends from this show be so kind to like
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to Jessica, but Bibiana like stood out because Bibiana invested
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: into Jessica, is like a friend. And that's what I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: think Bibiana does best, and what we love about her
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: is every time she's on the show, she goes out
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: of her way to to be a friend to somebody
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: when maybe other people aren't. Yeah, totally. She was the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: first person um on Bachelor and parent on Winter Games.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: So on one of the games, I didn't really have
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: any girlfriends going into it, and she and I immediately
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: hit it off, and she was so conversational and friendly
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and warm, and I was just like, Okay, great, she's
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: my crutch the entire time. She's gonna be like my
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: best girlfriend. I don't know if you remember this, but
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: maybe this is why I have such a heart for
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: bibianas um during Winter Games, you know, it's a weird
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: time for me. I wasn't ready so much. She was
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: such a support for Ben. She was and she sat
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: me on a couch one night and I don't even
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think they showed it or anything. I don't
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: even know if the camera's in the house and she
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: just sat me down and she says, it's been like
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: somebody needs to speak truth into you, and I'm gonna
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: be that person. And I bet for an hour she
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: just poured into me with like the most encouraging not
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: just like fluff words like truth, words like Ben, this
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: is who you are, This is why I see you as,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: this is what I know you are and I want
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you to know this and and that doesn't happen a
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: lot in life, and Bibiana did that for me, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: it I will never I don't. I think I will
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: die one day remembering that moment because of how encouraging
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it was. In a moment where I was like, I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: don't know what's happening here. This is a lot for me.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: She just said, Ben, this is who you are. So
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I love Bibiana. I hope she finds love. I really do.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: But we don't get anything of her with another guy
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: uh on this first episode. We do know that she
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: loves Blake. She's super after Blake. I am, I'm I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't get this. I don't understand.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Why are they all obsessed with Blake. Well, I think
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit of it is um kind of his
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: stint on with Becca. You know, he's a guy. He
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: made it pretty far and he's kind of the mystery guy. Um,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: but if we take Blake out of the equation for
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: right now, actually, out of this group of of really
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: great people, who do you want to see connect? Well?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I I think I'm most excited to see what develops
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: between Hannah and Dylan. Like that was the scene that
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: excited me the most. I thought it was just so
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: freaking adorable. And you're right, he didn't say the right things,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: like he didn't by definition, but I think they were
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the right things because they were just so honest. It
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: was beautiful. Kay, So we got hand in Dylan. Um,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: who what about Derek? Derek's always Derek's a guy that
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you know, has been around for a while. One of
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: my best friends in the franchise Wells loves Derek. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: don't know Derek well, Um, I don't know if you
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: know Derek Herro. Where do you want to see Derek
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: go with this? Well? I mean right now we're seeing
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: him with Demi. I don't know that Demi is his
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: match though, knowing both of them separately, I wouldn't put
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the two to them together. No, but but they're connecting. Another.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Another one here on the guy side is Will's. Wills
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: was obviously a heart throb coming off of Becca season. Um,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: he comes on the Paradise, he has eyes for Hannah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: But outside of Hannah, who else would you like to
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: see Will's connect with? M Hmmm. I remember that Will's
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: had that huge crush on Katie, Remember, and we had
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: him in our podcast a couple of months ago. He
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: was like, if I were to go in Parados, I
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: would a really big crushing on Katie or he like
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: alluded to that. So I'm going to root for those
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: two because could you imagine the eyes that came out
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of there the children? Oh my goodness, stunning. All right? Um,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: final one that I really am interested on the guy
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: side is Clay Plays. Obviously, we we know his backstory. Um,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: it was highlighted by Analyze a little bit during this
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: first episode. I feel like, you know, Analyze is a
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: good friend of the podcast. I want to bring her
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: on and talk to her about this. I feel like
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: she is stepping into a territory she doesn't necessarily need
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to be, because, just like we talked about with the
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Peter situation, Clay is broken up with Angela. That's been
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: very public. That's very clear. He has all right to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: be here in Paradise. I mean, you know, how soon
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: is too soon to move on? You know we there
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: hasn't been a great number we've figured out yet, So
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Analyze is starting to like ask these questions. I don't
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: think it's in her best interests. I think we'll come
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: back to bite her, um, just knowing how this is
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: set up. But outside of anything stepping in between, who
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: do you want to see Clay with? Well, I think
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: that annalyes the analyies bring. I think the Annaly is
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: bringing up Angela is foreshadowing Angela's appearance in Paradise. How
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: could it not? Like, why would they even have that
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: in there if we weren't going to see some Angela action?
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: And I don't think it's going to really bite Analyze
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: in the butt. Uh, but I haven't seen and um,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you know, Analyze is somebody we would we would like
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: to see find love in this because she's also thought
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: of as a pretty sympathetic character because she always just
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: leaves these shows very sad. But I don't see her
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: clicking with anyone right now. And I don't know who
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: do you see clicking with with um Analyze. If anyone,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I would actually say maybe Clay because he came across
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: pretty mushy on Becca season. So maybe he's the mushball
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: that will complete her. Yeah, you know, here's my here's
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: my theory. And I have friends like this. It's not
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it's it's week one or a few days in and
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you're already showing kind of this like protective wall build up,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and this is like mushy, like I need to be
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: a support of my friends that aren't even here. And
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I get it right there, she's in it and she's
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: But if Analyze is here to find a partner, I
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: don't think, well, let's say this in in general, if
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: anybody's here to find a partner, I don't think going
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: after somebody that you're not pursuing at any level is
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the right move right away, because I think it is.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: It's just kind of a bad look. Like, okay, so
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: she's gonna make enemies there you're saying, I just don't think.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think Analyze is a type of person that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: makes enemies because she's likable. I think she's not going
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to make relationships because of this, Like I don't think
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: anyboy's gonna dislike Analy's. I just don't think anyody's gonna
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: like fall for Analyes. She is concentrating on other relationships already,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and not her own exactly. Okay, so she's concerted on
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Clay's relationship. Who would you like to see Clay with? Well,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Clay showed interest in Nicole, So I'm all about people
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: who like had the intention of going going after someone
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: end up with that person. So I'm gonna say Clay
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: and Nicole would be cute together. They are both emotional
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: human beings. I love that idea. Okay. On on the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: women's side, we have Hannah, ge and Dylan. We're really
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: excited about that. One person we haven't talked about yet
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that we we also appreciate and and love is Tasha.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Tassia has been on the podcast before. She's beautiful. Uh.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: We enjoy Tasha. I know that she's excited about finding
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: a partner. She seems to be a great catch. Who
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: here and the guy side, so far, are you going
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: that's that's a Tassia match? I don't know, Ben, because
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at these guys and I don't really know
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: them that well. I feel like I know the girls,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: but I don't really know the guys, so it's hard
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: for me to pair people up. But the women here
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: are just like they're killing it, Like what a cast
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: of women, and I just don't know these guys very much.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: And then finally you got to spend some time with
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: kalin Um, who in the klin realm. I mean, she
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: seems to be really focused on Blake right now. I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: get why I'm not. I'm not saying she shouldn't be,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: but if she's so focused on Blake that any other
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: relationship just isn't going to enter into her life right now. Uh.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I think she's just focused on Blake because she wants
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to take him down, which I applaud her for. And
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, so if she doesn't like anybody else there
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: right now, just like, focus all your energy on bringing
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Blake down with his you know, the player must be
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: brought down. It's absolutely ridiculous what he did, like so ridiculous,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and the fact that he was thought that he could
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: get away with this, I'm like, how ignorant are you
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to this bachelor community. We all talk, we all talk,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and we all run into each other. There's no way
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you can't avoid one another in this Obviously, the Blake
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: conversation is going to be one we we kind of
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: harp on and talk about. Really, I bet for the
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: rest of the podcast it is going to kind of
• 34:05
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• 36:06
  Speaker 1: with Franchise Wells. We see back in Paradise. I don't
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: know how many seasons, what four seasons he's been the bartender?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: This is only this is the third, this is Do
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: you think his role as the bartender is gonna like
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: expand the sea We didn't see a lot of them
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: last year. We saw a ton of him on the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: first time he did it. Just from previews, I feel
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: like Wells is going to be more kind of front
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: and center. Yeah. I think he was a little bit
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: upset that last year. He it was like why was
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: he even there? You know? So I think they're gonna
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: definitely expand his role this year. Now, you know, as
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: well as the bartender, what when you're there, what are
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: you leaning on him for? Is it is he just
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: kind of like safe place to just spew whatever, or
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: is he bringing people over to talk to him? No,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Like for my seasons, we definitely did lean on Jorge. Yeah,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: he was like so areas. He was also like super
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: positive too, and he was just kind of you can
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: tell that Jorge was like excited that he wasn't actually
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: part of the cast, and I'm sure that Wells is
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: also very happy he's not part of the cast. But
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: they definitely are there because you need a neutral point
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: of view, Like you need somebody who's not a cast
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: member to talk to, and you need somebody who is
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: not a producer to talk to. And the only person
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: there for you to lean on in that case is
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the bartender, and they're going to give you advice that
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: you don't think is swayed in one direction or the other.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Like with the cast, sometimes they have their own motives
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: in mind, and the producers of course have theirs. So
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: it's really important to have the bartender. They're just vent
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: to And as we see this, I do believe that
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: this season Wells will have an integral role in a
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: lot of these relationships. I get it. If I was there,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I would want to lean on him as a kind
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: of a non biased source. So Wells is back. I'm
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: pumped about it. I love that Wells is there. Um,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: it's enjoyable. Okay, the moment everybody's been waiting for this
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: whole episode can kind of be summed up in oh
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: my gosh, Blake, like what is going to happen here?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: As a friend of his? This is hard to watch,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: but it's like indefensible too. There's a lot of this
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: that's indefensible. I don't understand um and and all of
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: this would be said to his face. I don't get
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: how you think you're ever gonna get around. I mean,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know that. Maybe this is too personal, Ashley,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: But when it comes to the Bachelor franchise, like I
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: stayed far away from dating anybody else, like after Mice time,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Like once my time on the Bachelor was done, I
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: had to stay away because of this, Like this was
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a concern everybody talks. Everybody's gonna find out, like I
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: know way too much about who's hooked up with who
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, then I ever want to know. It's
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a good looking community. Everybody is going to be attracted
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to multiple people in it, and everybody has like similar
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: ish personalities where we all tend to get along really well.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: So we find ourselves in these groups a lot. And yeah,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you can't escape it, and you're not going to be
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: able to keep secrets within it. I can't believe he
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: called calein and said, we need to make sure that
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: this never comes out in Paradise. It's such an interesting
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: thing for him to think that it's actually gonna happen.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen, but let's compare this to real life,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: a bunch of good looking people who travel and hang
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: out together, who go to amazing places together, who drink together. Um,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: is it crazy to think that multiple like you wouldn't
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: hook up with multiple people within the franchise. No, I
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: could see doing that, I suppose, but like, definitely not
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: if you're going to go on paradise and definitely not
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: in the same weekend like a stage coach. And it
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: would different if it was like seemed less fluzzy. It
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: seems like if he was like, I'm dating so and so,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I am committed to so and so, and then they
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: ended up breaking up, and then a couple of months
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: later he did it someone else and it was like,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I'm committed to so and so. That would be one thing.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: But he was talking, he was he was He dated Christina,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you know casually. I think, Um, he dated Klin. He
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: slept with both of them in one weekend. He was
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: d m ng Tasia in bed with Klin. I hear
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: that there may be somebody else in the incoming cast
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that he also hooked up with. And then I didn't
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: know that. Oh yeah, you didn't know that. No, No, no, really,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think I did if, I'm sure I'll find
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: out soon. And then I think there was somebody else
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: that Caitlyn mentioned he had interaction with. Well, okay, So
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like every year we've seen an evolution in paradise.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I remember after my season on the Bachelor, I was
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: very protective of these women coming coming off the show.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I think you could probably remember that time they're all
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: getting ready to go on Paradise. I was super protective
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: of them. And what happened was I remember some guys
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: from Caitlin's season d m NG a lot of these
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: girls multiple Like one guy was dm NG like five
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: girls at one time. They were all talking. I knew
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: about it because I was still kind of involved in
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: that world with the girls at that time, and I
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: was like, we are We talked about it. We mentioned
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: on the podcast. Back then we didn't say his name,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and we thought that was crazy, How could you do that?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: What a player? What you know? What a scum? But
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: now it's like been enhanced to actually become physical now,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if those two things are comparable
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: at all, but it's wild to see kind of the
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: evolution where back then we've d ming was crazy. Now
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: we're talking about like cooking up, like legitimate hooking up.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: That was like back in My Paradise season too, Samantha
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: and Joe we're just dming or texting, and it was
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the biggest controversy of all time. That's a that is
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: such a good parallel is them texting before Paradise was
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: like a storyline that lasted week? Oh my god, everybody
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: was enraged. Is that a wild to kind of compare
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: that to now? I mean, I am I like missing something,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: But listeners, we want to hear your advice. Emails have
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: been an Ashley, iHeart media dot com or or please
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: tweet us in hashtag almost same as podcast. We literally
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: watched your videos and um saw the tags all week.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Did you know that they had to get the um
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the title stage coach past, you know, like a copyright
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. They had to make sure that
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: they could get the legal right to say stage coach
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: on the show because it came up in so many conversations. Holy,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: my best stage coach is Jack Tay Ashley. On this note,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: let's pause for a second and talk about one of
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: our sponsors. Okay, so we're getting back into this, this
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: whole Scenaire with Blake. It's it's getting messy, it's getting wild.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Of course, um, we've we've already mentioned that the evolution
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: of kind of intimacy on the show has been heightened.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: It used to be text messages were, um, super problematic.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Now there's actually physical interactions that we're gonna be speaking up.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's next. I don't know where you
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: go from here. But of course Blake gets the first
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: date card. Everybody, I mean everybody actually is preticting that
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: he's gonna take any I'm thinking he's gonna take Nagy
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and I know this situation. He asked Tasha on a date,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: are you surprised? I think everybody was surprised. But remember what, Okay,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: so before I made a mistake and I said that
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: when he was in bed with Caitlin he was d
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: m ng Tasia, he was actually d m ng Hannah Gee,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I think. And he was talking about how hot Tassia was,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: so obviously he was interested in Tasia. He thought he
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: was she was hot. So maybe he was like, I've
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: gotten to know Hannah gy enough and I just need
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I would like to get to know Tasia more. Or
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: maybe he was like cleaner pure with Tasia, and he
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: had talked to Hannah Gy in the past, and he
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: was trying to avoid all the girls that he had
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: any interaction with before Paradise. Well, yeah, I'm just surprised,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Ashley that if he was, I guess I'm not fully
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: understanding the relationship with any of these women. So what
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: we know now is that that Kylin is saying that
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Blake has hooked up with Kylin has hooked up with Christina,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: and that he's messaging Hannah Gee and Tastia's somebody he's
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: interested in, and I am I wrong yea yeah, but
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: like of everybody, it seems like Tasha is the purest one,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: the one that he's never interacted with outside of Paradise,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: so he makes such choice to take Tassia on the
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: first day, Tassian Blake are having some sexy time. Did
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: they talk at stagecoach? Do they flirt at stagecoach? I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: don't know. All this stagecoach stuff is boggling. No, no, no, yeah.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: So that's why I got a little confused that the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: story is this that he was kind of flirting with Tasha,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and then I think there was a comment made like
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: but at the end of night he was with me
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, goodness, So maybe he was
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: still hanging onto that flirtatious interaction that he had with Tassha.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: So here's where things get problematic. Calin sits down with Wells.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: We watched it on the episode. She tells Wells her
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: other story is that Kaylin and Blake had a relationship.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Blake ended things with her. Um it got weird at
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: a music festival stage coach, I guess I can say it,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: because I mean, at this point it's been said a
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: thousand times on the show. Um. And then he called her,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and this is where things get really hard for me
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: to understand. He calls her and says, hey, Klin, Uh,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: this relationship, like this hook up or whatever it was like,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: was it in our best interest? In her words, it
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: was a mistake. Can we keep it a secret so
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: we can both enjoy paradise. I think that's where he
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: was coming from, was like, can we both enjoy paradise
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and keep this a secret? Ashley, I want to hear
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: your opinion on how this all plays out and where
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Blake went wrong? Uh? Where did Blake go wrong? Blake
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: pretty much went wrong when he intended to hook up
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: with anyone outside Christina. I think if he had dated
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Christina in the real world and then like she came
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: into Paradise, that would be one thing. It's like, that's
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: kind of like Clay and Angela. But when you started
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: hooking up and and like not in a committed sort
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: of way with multiple women, that's where he started to
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: That's when he really went wrong. What was the first
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: part of that question? So he messages Klin, Oh, yeah,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Why did he just drop it? Why did he say, like,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I think this relationship is a mistake. I think he
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: realized it was a mistake when he slept with both
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: girls in one weekend and he was like, this is
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: gonna look really bad in Paradise. Somebody must have warned him, Ben,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't you? Honestly it was not me. What I'll tell
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: you what advice I gave Blake is because I had
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: been with him and Christina, Like I I knew they
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: were hanging out. That wasn't really a secret. I don't
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: think anybody. I don't know a lot about the ins
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and outs of what he did. Personally. I think my
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: advice to him was, you know, make sure that you've
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: maybe it was me because I said, make sure you've
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: talked to all these girls before you go on paradise,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: and he said he had, And I think in his mind,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's to his defense or not.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I think he thought that, like that conversation with Klin
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: maybe not worded correctly or word appropriately, and maybe we
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: should get his syke because we don't know and maybe
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: we'll hear it. I think he thought that was like
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: a breakup, and I thought I think he thought that
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: was like a fair breakup for them to say, hey,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: this isn't going anywhere. Can we both go to paradise
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and see what's see what happens, and for you, is
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: that a breakup? Like in the words that she's saying
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the Wells, does it feel like you would take that
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: as as a woman or just as a person as
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: a breakup. I think I would take it as a breakup.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: But I don't think that's her point here. I think
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: her point is that like she wants to protect these
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: other because she's not trying to get back with him,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be with him at all. She's
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: just trying to protect these other women from these fantasy
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: thoughts that they have about him that she believes is
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: completely not true. I mean, so she's mad, Like we
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: see that there is no doubt that that Klin is
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: mad at Blake, like there is. She came to Paradise.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong in this? She came to Paradise on
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: a mission. She came to Paradise on a mission. Yeah,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: she came to Paradise on a mission to let everybody
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: know that Blake is not the guy they think that
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: they think he is. So here's my critique of the situation.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: We don't know a lot about it yet. I I
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: don't love this. I don't love and and listeners, you're
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: going to disagree with me, and I want you to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I want you to help me understand this. Actually, I
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: want you to help me understand this. I don't love
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: that anybody brings like, wait until Paradise to have conflict.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: You don't like it when people wait till Paradise to
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: have conflict. Yeah, Like, I I don't look like I
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: would like to think that if you had an issue
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: with a guy in the real world and he was
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: doing whatever a player, and he was you know, mistreating
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: people or whatever whatever is happening here, that you would
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: not wait until you're on national television two then go
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: at him. But sometimes I'm wrong. I want you to
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: tell me I'm wrong. Sometimes it's fun and sometimes you
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: want to call them out on the big stage, especially
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: when you're seeing other women go after him. It's not
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: as if in real life she was watching other girls
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: and knowing other girls that he was dating. Now she's
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: friends with these girls and now she's watching them try
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: to pursue this guy. That's just really not that great opinion,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I guess. Actually my only thought is I don't know
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: when you ever have a conflict like this that is
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: like a definitely like a big conflict, like this is
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: a big deal that going about it like going about
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: it in the fun way is ever the wise way?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Like I just don't see that being healthy. Okay, so
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: let's turn the tables on this. What if klin knew
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: all about his player ways this entire Paradise time, but
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: just never really put it out there in paradise? Would
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: you would she privately tell each girl like warn them? Yeah?
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Like what would you do then like afterwards, like message
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the person that he ends up with and be like hey, okay,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: get that, or like in the girl's room. You're like,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: by the way, like I know your did you're you're
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: into Blake, but he's really not that great. What I
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: would probably, I think would be the why. I don't know.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I mean again, I'm not like I don't know how
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: to do conflict perfect perfectly, but I could say that
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I think the best thing to do, and that the
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: one thing that bothered me the most, and I trust me,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Like this is messed up, like so so hard to process.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I wish Calin would have went to Blake first. You
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: wish Calin had gone to Blake first, like off camera
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: and no, no, no, even if she did it on
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: national television. I think the move was like instead of
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: like kind of building an army um going to him
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: personally and saying, Blake, what you did to me was wrong.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I don't respect it, I don't like it. Like I
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: need to talk to you personally before any of this
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: comes out, and I want you to know that through
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the rest of this like time and paradise, I will
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: warn these women of what happened. Okay, you're right. If
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I wasn't so, if I wasn't so enthoralled by watching
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: a woman with vengeance, I would agree with you. It's
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: probably the right thing to do. I mean, I don't
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: and like, again, she's hurt, and so this is for
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: my own entertainment at this point, you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: but like yes, and and I but I'm sitting there
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm going everybody else there knows about this except Blake,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Like this, this guy is gonna be in his mind,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: like I don't know if he just doesn't realize it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: But at some level, you would think that Blake maybe
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: knew going into this that I'm setting myself up for
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: a really wild, like really bad experience. Like you would
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: have to have to think that he knew from like
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: that this isn't gonna play out perfectly in his mind,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and so maybe maybe to assume that things would have
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: changed if she just went to maybe I'm crazy. I
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: don't know. I just it felt a little bit like
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: odd to me that everybody else knew that she was
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: so upset before Blake knew. I guess, Okay, I agree
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: with you, fun sure, I don't know. Listeners tell me
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I mean, you're not. Technically you're probably right,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: but I guess I'm just thinking about from entertainments, like
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Isn't this funny the difference in tone
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: between Paradise and The Bachelorette. If we ever like laughed
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: about things like this with the Bachelorette, it wouldn't fly.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: If this was if this was the Bachelor, we'd be
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: fired up. And unfortunately or fortunately it's Paradise, were like,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: oh boy, like every time, I mean, one of our
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: closest friends, Dean, who we love dearly, was this guy
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: last year, two years ago? Yeah, I know, I know,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Dean messed up, you know what, Dean defending? He was
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: pretty upfront. Let I mean and my memory of two
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: years ago too, But wasn't he pretty upfront? Like, Hey,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I'm really confused right now, I'm bouncing around because I
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: really don't know what I want. At least it was
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: in Paradise, and he wasn't like honestly, like, very are
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: things that I want to say right now, but like,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: at least it was just like making out with two girls. Yeah, hey,
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  Speaker 1: way to hire amazing. To finish up the Blake conversation,
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  Speaker 1: I think this whole season is gonna be a roller
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: coaster for Blake. I think that we're gonna learn a lot,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: just like we do every Paradise and every Batchelor and
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Bachelor about how people resolve and work through conflict. Um,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting to see how the group
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: in Paradise responds to Blake personally. As this continues to
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: come out, I mean, he's a fan favorite. He is
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: a cast favorite down in Paradise. As this comes out,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see if people kind of
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: support him and go, oh, I can relate, or if
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: they go, no, dude, you're on your own here. Wait.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: The big thing that we haven't talked about yet is
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Christina wants to bring Blake on a date. And I
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: don't get why. I don't get what. I think you
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: know why. I think I know why. She just wants
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: to talk it out. She wants to completely clear the air.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: She wants to do what you wish Kaylin did do
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: addressed him first. Interesting. If that's the case, I do
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: respect this. Hey, we have a lot of reader or
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: listener emails. We respect your emis, We love your emails.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I actually just watch an Instagram story where somebody tagged
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: us in it and it was talking about the jet
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: interview that we just did last week. Um, we we
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: really love hearing from you. We love to hear your
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: different opinions. Just don't be mean to us. It hurts
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: my feelings. I try to read these emails and these
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: tweets and these Instagram messages, like and like have these
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: conversations with you all, because when things are black and white,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: like or feel black and white, the only thing you
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: can do is like still open yourself up to So
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: maybe there's another way, just like, let's have a conversation.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Stop being mean. It hurts, it sucks. I don't like
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: reading them, um, but we have a lot of listening
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: to emails that we love to read. We're gonna read
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: them now, Blake, best of luck, buddy. Let's see how
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: this plays out. And uh yeah, all right, let's get
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: into emails. All right, let's do it. We're going to
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: bring in the voice of the people, somebody who has
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: not been on Paradise or The Bachelor. It is producer Tory.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: We're gonna read through some emails and give our thoughts
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: if we really have any excited Okay, this is from
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Mariah the Jed Situation. She titles the email. I was
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: hoping to feel different towards the Jed situation after your interview,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: but I feel worse. Even though he admits fault through
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: many things, he still puts blame on others and changes
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: stories like accidentally liking the Instagram comment. I would love
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: to hear you guys touch, guys touch on this next
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: episode on how you felt before and after talking to
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Jed while having the conversation, and I kind of understand
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: where she's coming from. There was something that I did
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: mess up. I messed up last last episode. There was
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: a point where I said, your relationship crumbled at the
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: hands of somebody else, and that's absolutely a mistake. And
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: I think I said it out of just feeling a
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: lot of sympathy for him, like sitting next to me,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: obviously struggling with the interview and crying, and I was like,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I felt bad for him, regardless of like,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: how could you know how big the mistake it was
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: that he made. It's still like I had the human empathy,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: you know, in some weird way. I think he he
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: really didn't realize what he was doing. He didn't like
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I think like it was very genuine that he was
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Like looking back, I've I've grown and I learned a
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: lot because I didn't realize what I was doing. And
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I can kind of rest easy on that just being like, Okay,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: you're just owning that. You really, I think like female
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: a female, it's really hard to hear, but like sympathizing
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: with him as like mailed the female being like, all right, boy,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: like you gotta grow up, put on your big boy
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: pants and step into this relationship. And he just didn't.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I think he did learn, though, I don't think he'll
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: ever do this again. You're not sure, No, I really
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: hope not. I just think that he like genuinely doesn't
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: realize it. Yeah, and I still have to be honest.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Another thing that I was affected by with having him
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: sit next to me during it was I'm not sure
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: if I buy that phone call at the airport. It's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: just interesting that the texts are completely different than the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: phone call at the airport in which he says that
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: he totally, you know, broke up with the girl. It's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: just hard because I really genuinely feel like he really,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: like again, he just really didn't understand it. So he
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: really didn't mean to do it, Like he wasn't maliciously
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: going out and like breaking girl's hearts and being like
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: screw you. Like I think he just literally didn't realize that, like, oh, shoot,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: really thinks I love her and I love her as
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: much of like I really like you love you? Yeah. Well,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: he when he said the can't you say I love
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: you to somebody you're not comming to I was like,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I don't really think so. It's just so weird because
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not that person, but I can understand
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: when if somebody else isn't, maybe in that situation. We
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: have another email about the Jet interview. If you guys
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: haven't listened to it, we didn't in depth episode that
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: was released on Friday with Jet. This is from Megan.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I met my husband when I was engaged to someone else.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I was in the stages of wedding planning when I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: attended a coworker's wedding and one of the groomsmen walked
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: me down the aisle to my seat. Something hit me
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: that was uncontrollable and undeniable. I fought the feeling for
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, knowing that I was engaged, but
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: I couldn't turn off the internal feelings. I ended my engagement,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: and less than a year later, my husband and I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: were married and now we have two kids. I feel
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: awful that I heard someone in the process, but I
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: had to follow my heart. Haley wasn't Jed's person. If
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Hannah was his person, I do feel awful for him,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: and just like that, I'm Team Jed. Is that like
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I can. I can get it. That's crazy because that's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: where you have to have a little sympathy for him totally.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that there's only one person out
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: there for you. I think that there's multiple people you
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: could end up with, but you have to really like
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: take your compromises, take your whatever they may be. And
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I can see her having a happy marriage like marriage
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: to maybe who she was engaged to just would have
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: been a little different than the person that she's married too.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Like, I think she could have
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: been compatible with both of these people, but her heart
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: just strung a little bit more with this other person.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: It was more undeniable, And I think Jed had that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: with Hannah. So just like that, I'm like, I get
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: where Jed was coming from. And his mistake was made
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: so early that I don't even know if you could
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: have backtracked, you know. Okay, moving on to Tyler news.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: The first We'll start with this email from Pierce. As
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I was listening to your interview with Tyler, I had
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: an idea Tyler should be on Dancing with the Stars.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: It would be a great fit for him. He's a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: fan favorite and he loves to dance. Oh that's true.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: He does love to dance. Is freaking brilliant. Yes, this
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: is great because it's a good compromise for all of us.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: We can see Tyler back on ABC. We doesn't doesn't
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: necessarily hav to the Bachelor, and we knew that. The
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: way that they have or how things have unfolded over
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: the past week, it seems like Tyler's chances of being
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor low. To me, I was gonna ask you
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: what your predictions were. I think they're low because we
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: we saw him like go sleep over at Hannah's, so
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: I think that the Bachelor Nation is going to really
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: try to ship that. But then to three days later,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: we saw him at a date at a date at
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Dumbo House in Brooklyn with Gigi Hadid, which is actually
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Tories doubling Gang. I will cry, you can no, I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: can't even I love. That was very nice, and um,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: we should mention that it wasn't just a day at
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Dumbo House. It's I have an article here that said
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: that they actually ended up going to Jud's place. Wait wait, wait,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: wait wait wait, who's the source. Somebody's not following them
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: back to house. I don't know. So this is what
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I was tagged in on Instagram. Take that with a
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: grain of salt um. On Sunday, the Florida Nato was
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: spotted at Brooklyn's Dumbo house with a supermodel before leaving
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: together to go to Deeds Manhattan apartment. She came out
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: the main entrance by Almondine Bakery. He walked around to
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: the alley on the left by Smile to go. Her
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: car picked him up there. They went into the garage
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: at her apartment. A spy told Page six pretty reliable
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: source on Monday, noting that they were hanging out until
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: at least two am. The sighting follows a world wind
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: week blah blah blah blah. And then and after that,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: news broke yesterday about Tyler's hang out with g I
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: kind of tried to get to the source who posted
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: that picture. Now I couldn't get directly to the source,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: but I got to the source. I got to the
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: girl who posted who who posted her friend's picture? And
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: you know, like, this is the girl who did the posting.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: So she's a fan of the Almost Famous podcast, so
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: that was helpful in getting the info. Her name, well,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: she her Instagram handles arts and food underscore NYC and
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: her name is Dana. And this is what Dana told
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: me after I told her I wanted her to be
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: on the podcast. She said that she didn't feel comfortable
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: because she takes it to publicity and then backs off.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Her friend, who witnessed the date, was actually a little
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: upset with her about blowing it up. Da, you already
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: took it to madical, just come out and milk it,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: so she said, as that. All my friend told me
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: was that she saw them together getting a table for
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: two and it looked romantic, not friendly. And I said,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: did it look like they hung out before? And she said,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: oh gosh, I have no idea. My friends said they
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: were flirty and it was just the two of them.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: So I've had like a conspiracy theory on both of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: these things. With Hannah and with Gigi. Hannah they did
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: the thing, they had the wine. I think that they
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: just caught up on such great times that two am
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: hit and he was like, well, I have a flight
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: out tomorrow morning because I think it was pretty he said,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: he was did he was leaving on Friday? He said,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: so why like go back to the hotel. If you're
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: having a great time, you're just going to crash on
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: her couch, maybe the same bed, But like, I don't
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: think anything happened, Okay. I think he got signed to
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: like Wilhelmina Models or whatever and they were like we
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: need or he was getting talked to and they were like,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: we need him over any other agency. Gig go and
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: pull out all the stoppers and get him to sign
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: with us. No, you're so innocent. No, this is my
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: theory because this is also in hopes that he will
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: still go in The Bachelor, because you want him to
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: be Yes, of course, but this is my theory because
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I think we only get one side of the story,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: and the real side is like they were just hanging out.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I don't only think there's chemistry between Hannah and him anymore.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's kind of just it died out and then, um,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: I think GG was there to put out the stoppers
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: and get him signed. I don't think the sign thing
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: is true, and I don't know that by the face
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: that Hannah had that next morning, whether or not your
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: theory that one's true either. But the great great angles
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: for people to look at just in case they want
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: to believe they don't want to believe what the appearances seen,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: and then he's going to come out next week saying
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: for Bachelor, I I'm Tyler and I'm the next Bachelor,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: and then he's going to come out with all the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: statements and statements will be like, yeah, I was just
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: trying to get signed and then Hanna and I were
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: just friends. How much sympathy do we have for Hannah
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: at this moment seeing that the guy that she had
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: to sleepover with two or three nights ago ended up
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: having a date with a supermodel, So sad, so much
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: fear in my body, Like g is freaking next level.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: So imagining a man that I loved or like did
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: love or head feelings for going for them, I'd be
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: like throwing the white towel. She did post something on
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Instagram that I don't want to say is a complete uh.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want to connect it completely to the date,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: but she did post something that said it could be
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: worse and then said like congratulations Leo, and she was
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: showing a whole bunch of tabloids wait like Leo DiCaprio
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: because like in touch said something like he was engaged,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: which I don't believe at all, But either way, that
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: at the top of the the video, It's like, could
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: be worse And this was like just as everything was
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: coming out, I don't understand it. What what what? What? What
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: could be worse? You're literally you're literally living your best
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: life right now. Romantically, No, I mean romantically. If you
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: see the guy that you're trying to get with go
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: out with a supermodel romantically, situations couldn't get much worse anyway.
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  Speaker 1: All right, wait, wait, wait, sorry, can I say one thing? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know we're wrapping up and I'm gonna let it
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  Speaker 1: wrap out. Tyler told us that he didn't DM gig
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  Speaker 1: in the in depth. Did you believe him though? Because
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: I thought he was smirky, You didn't believe him? And
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  Speaker 1: we have Danielle producer. Danielle, Now this is Hannah's karma.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think based on Tyler's face when we
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  Speaker 1: talked about the d M they are totally talking like
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  Speaker 1: obviously and totally You're right. Yeah, I mean I've been
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  Speaker 1: wanting to talk about this since we had the end up.
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  Speaker 1: You guys, remember, he's so guilty, Remember what. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: super sure that he seemed excited to go out with Hannah,
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  Speaker 1: and like I got a Lotok, flak for that because
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  Speaker 1: apparently a lot of people saw him as very excited
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: and willing to go out on the date with Hannah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like maybe he was already talking to Jiuji
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  Speaker 1: and was like, oh lord, I think he was talking
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  Speaker 1: to gi. Oh totally, I'm on your But it was
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  Speaker 1: just to get him signed. You know, I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know why would Why would Wilmo don't have an issue
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  Speaker 1: getting him A lot of people's models on him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe cute little boutique modeling one, you know, like your Heart,
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  Speaker 1: but that's not the reason. Just wait, I can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: Tell somebody speaks out on this and it's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: my my conspiracy theory. Okay, well, I'm sending my my sympathies,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: not my condolences. Yet we have no idea what's going on.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: He could have gone that day with Jiuji and was like,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: heck no, I'm going right back to Hannah. Yeah, absolutely possible.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: You know what, Daniel just flipped me a paper and
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: she thinks it's Hannah's karma. So I don't think I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: don't my goodness, you guys, but I do have to say,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: regardless of any situation, I'm sending my sympathies and thoughts
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: to Hannah at the moment, honestly a box of tissues
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: and a white flag and I screaming sorry, Ben, we
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: had to have some girl chats. There's some topics that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: are best when blabbird with three females around the table.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: What a season of paradise it will be? Seems like
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: the storyline is gonna be blake. But I'm Ben and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I've been been, And I'm Ashley and I've been Ashley.
• 1:11:27
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