Latest / Reformed Thinking / Wicked Men Useful in Their Destruction Only | Jonathan Edwards
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- 0:00What if I told you that spending your entire life building
- 0:02hospitals, funding orphanages, feeding the hungry, and, you
- 0:07know, maintaining A flawless moral reputation might actually
- 0:11render you functionally useless? Yeah, like as useless as a
- 0:14rotting piece of wood. Right, welcome to Reform
- 0:17thinking. I'm so glad you decided to join
- 0:19us today because we are looking at a landscape of human value
- 0:23that completely up ends well pretty much every modern metric
- 0:27we use to measure a successful life.
- 0:28It really does. It is a massive shift in
- 0:30perspective. So our mission for this deep
- 0:32dive is to unpack a very specific, stark and frankly
- 0:37striking sermon by the 18th century theologian Jonathan
- 0:40Edwards. Yeah, and the title pulls
- 0:43absolutely no crunches. It is called Wicked Men, useful
- 0:46in their destruction only. Which is just a staggering
- 0:49title. We want to break down this
- 0:50terrifying but logically rigorous binary that Edwards
- 0:54presents to his congregation, and by extension, to you
- 0:57listening right now. Because he puts for this idea
- 0:59that human beings, much like a vine in a vineyard, possess only
- 1:03two possible destinies. You are either bearing fruit or
- 1:06you are burning in the fire. There is no third option.
- 1:09Right, no middle ground at all. There is no participation trophy
- 1:12for just showing up on earth and trying your best, and the
- 1:15extremity of that binary is what makes the tech so arresting to
- 1:19me. I agree, and what is so
- 1:21interesting is that Edwards does not start with some sweeping
- 1:25philosophical treatise on ethics.
- 1:27No, he doesn't. Or even some grand metaphysical
- 1:30speculation. He anchors this massive cosmic
- 1:34ultimatum on a single, highly specific agricultural metaphor
- 1:39from the Old Testament. You go straight to the Book of
- 1:41Ezekiel. Right, yes, chapter 15, verses 2
- 1:43through 4. He uses that to construct a
- 1:46framework of absolute utility utility.
- 1:48You see, the Puritans operated on this baseline assumption that
- 1:52every single atom in the universe has a designated end.
- 1:55Like a specific design implemented by the creator.
- 1:58Precisely. And to step outside of that
- 2:00design is an act of rebellion against the fabric of reality
- 2:03itself. So Ezekiel asks the seemingly
- 2:06simple question about forestry and agriculture.
- 2:08He says, Son of Man, what is the vine tree more than any tree or
- 2:13than a branch which is among the trees of the forest?
- 2:15Right. And the Prophet goes on to ask
- 2:17if you can take the wood of a vine to do any work, or even
- 2:21make a pin out of it to hang a vessel on.
- 2:23And the answer, biologically speaking, is a resounding no.
- 2:27I am intensely eager to see how he builds this, because the
- 2:31physical properties of a vine creates such a specific
- 2:34limitation. Yeah, think about the contrast
- 2:36Ezekiel is drawing there. Right.
- 2:37Like if you look at an oak tree or maybe a cedar of Lebanon,
- 2:41those trees produce timber. You cut down a mature oak and
- 2:45you have material that possesses inherent structural utility.
- 2:48You can actually build something with it.
- 2:50Exactly. Well, you can build a house.
- 2:51You can construct A merchant ship to cross the Atlantic.
- 2:54You can carve furniture that will last for generations.
- 2:57The wood itself has strength and rigidity.
- 2:59You can rely on an oak beam to hold thousands of pounds of
- 3:02weight. But a vine is biologically
- 3:04alienated from all of those characteristics.
- 3:07It is soft. It is pliable.
- 3:10It is inherently weak. A vine cannot even support its
- 3:13own weight, let alone the weight of a roof.
- 3:15Right. It has to creep along the ground
- 3:16in the dirt, or it has to cling to a trellis.
- 3:19The wood of a vine has zero utility for construction.
- 3:23Ezekiel makes the rather humorous point that you cannot
- 3:27even carve a small wooden peg out of it to hang a cup on.
- 3:30Because the peg would just snap under the weight of an empty
- 3:32cup. It is entirely useless.
- 3:35So taking that physical reality into the agricultural sphere,
- 3:38Edwards points out that this extreme physical weakness means
- 3:41the vine requires an astonishing amount of active, relentless
- 3:46care from the vine dresser. Yeah, the contrast with the oak
- 3:49tree continues here. Because if you plant an oak
- 3:51tree, you can just walk away. Right.
- 3:53You come back 50 years later to harvest the timber.
- 3:56The oak takes care of itself. But a vineyard demands constant
- 3:59intervention. You have to build a wall or
- 4:02fence it in to protect it from wild animals.
- 4:04You have to constantly dig around the roots to aerate the
- 4:06soil you. Have to bring in fertilizer.
- 4:08Yes, and you must meticulously prune it back.
- 4:11You are constantly cutting off the dead growth so the energy
- 4:14goes to the fruit. You have to physically prop it
- 4:17up and tie it to supports so the grapes do not rot on the damp
- 4:20ground. It is an Organism of total
- 4:22dependency. It consumes an enormous amount
- 4:25of the farmer's time and energy and resources.
- 4:29I think we need a modern analogy for this because we do not
- 4:32interact with agriculture as much today, you know.
- 4:35That is a great idea. Think about a highly specialized
- 4:38piece of delicate technology like a racing drone, or maybe a
- 4:43specialized microchip designed for one specific cryptographic
- 4:47calculation. OK, I am tracking with you.
- 4:49If you have a standard laptop, it does a bit of everything.
- 4:52It is like the oak tree. You can do word processing, web
- 4:55browsing, video editing, accounting.
- 4:57It has broad general utility. It is good for a lot of
- 5:01different things. Right, but a specialized
- 5:03cryptographic microchip does one thing.
- 5:05If it fails to do that one specific calculation it was
- 5:08built for, you are left with a piece of silicon that has no
- 5:11secondary use. You cannot use it as a
- 5:13paperweight because it is too light.
- 5:15You cannot use it to prop open a door.
- 5:17It is entirely useless for general tasks.
- 5:20If it does not do its specific job, it goes straight into the
- 5:22recycling bin. It is a hyper specialized
- 5:25instrument. And Edwards maps that hyper
- 5:28specialization directly onto the spiritual reality of mankind and
- 5:32specifically the visible church. Humans are not designed for
- 5:36general utility, are they? No, they are designed for a
- 5:39hyper specific function. Rather than listing off the
- 5:42dozens of times the Bible uses this metaphor, let's look at the
- 5:46mechanics of John chapter 15. Where Christ says I am the vine,
- 5:50ye are the branches. Spot on.
- 5:52The theological argument here is that the intense, relentless
- 5:56cultivation the vine dresser performs is a direct mirror of
- 6:00divine Providence. God fences his people in with
- 6:03laws and protections. He fertilizes the soil with
- 6:06prophets, teachers, and the written word.
- 6:08And he prunes through discipline.
- 6:09This massive expenditure of cosmic resources is directed at
- 6:12this weak dependent creature. Therefore, the inescapable
- 6:15conclusion Ezekiel and Edwards both draw is devastating.
- 6:19It really is. If a vine consumes all that care
- 6:21and still does not produce grapes, it is worse than the
- 6:24cheapest, ugliest tree in the uncultivated forest.
- 6:26Because a forest tree at least gives you crude lumber for a
- 6:29shed. Right, the barren vine gives you
- 6:31absolutely nothing. Which means the only logical
- 6:34destination for it is the fire, Ezekiel says The fire devours
- 6:38both ends of it and the middle is burned.
- 6:41It is a brutal, sobering image that completely strips away any
- 6:44sense of inherent self worth separated from purpose.
- 6:48The vine doesn't get to say, well, I have lovely leaves or I
- 6:52grew really long this year. If there are no grapes, the
- 6:56existence of the Organism is a failure.
- 6:58So if a vine's only value is fruit, what is bearing fruit
- 7:02actually mean for a human being in the grand scheme of creation?
- 7:05That is the big question, and to answer that, Edwards constructs
- 7:09A rigid, unyielding binary regarding human existence.
- 7:12He says that a human being can only be useful in one of two
- 7:15ways, actively or passively. Meaning you are either taking
- 7:19action to fulfill your purpose or you're being disposed of by
- 7:22your Creator to fulfill His purpose.
- 7:24Yes, if you do nothing and God does nothing with you, then your
- 7:27existence is a void and the God of the Puritans does not permit
- 7:31voids. In his universe, every single
- 7:33particle of matter will be utilized.
- 7:35So to explain what active usefulness looks like, Edwards
- 7:38lays out a hierarchy, a graduation of creation, tracing
- 7:42the flow of utility from the lowest elements all the way up
- 7:46to the divine. He starts at the very bottom,
- 7:48right in the dirt. You have inanimate objects like
- 7:51soil, Ross, minerals, water. Things with no life, no
- 7:55consciousness. Right, but their designated end
- 7:58is to support the next level up, which is the vegetative life.
- 8:02The earth and water subserve the plants, giving them a physical
- 8:05foundation to grow in and the raw chemical nutrients they need
- 8:08to survive. OK, so moving up the ladder, the
- 8:10vegetative life exists to sustain the sensitive life.
- 8:14The grass, the seeds and the fruit do not exist for their own
- 8:17sake. They exist to be consumed by the
- 8:19beasts and the birds. Right.
- 8:20The cows eat the grass, the birds eat the seeds.
- 8:23The plants fulfill their active purpose by surrendering their
- 8:26energy to the animals. And then the brute creatures
- 8:29labor for the rational life. They exist for mankind.
- 8:32They. Surrender their meat for food
- 8:34they give their hives and wool for clothing.
- 8:36They offer their physical strength to pull plows and carry
- 8:39burdens. So let's trace that The dirt
- 8:41transfers its utility to the plants.
- 8:43The plants transfer their utility to the animals.
- 8:46The animals transfer their utility to humans.
- 8:49And mankind is sitting at the very peak of this earthly
- 8:52pyramid. We are the highest creation in
- 8:54the lower world, possessing A rational and mortal soul capable
- 8:59of abstract thought and moral reasoning.
- 9:01So who does man answer to? Where does the energy go next?
- 9:04Edward states that the next step up from man is God himself.
- 9:08Therefore, man's entire business is directly with the Creator.
- 9:12Man was made exclusively for the glory of his Maker.
- 9:15All the lower levels of creation find their fulfillment in
- 9:18supporting the level above them. Pam, being at the absolute top
- 9:21of the physical chain, must direct his output upward into
- 9:24the spiritual realm. That vertical transfer of glory
- 9:27is the highest end now. I can hear people listening
- 9:29right now pushing back on this idea, and I want to voice that
- 9:32objection because it is the most natural human response.
- 9:34Go for it, someone might say. Look, I might not be a religious
- 9:37person. I might not direct my life
- 9:39toward glorifying A deity, But I am a dedicated parent.
- 9:43I provide a safe, loving home for my family.
- 9:45I volunteer at the local food. Bank.
- 9:47I pay my taxes, I help my neighbors, I contribute to the
- 9:50stability and flourishing of society.
- 9:53People will say I am actively doing good things on earth.
- 9:58Are you telling me that doesn't count as being actively useful?
- 10:01It is a very fair question, and Edwards anticipates that exact
- 10:04objection. He counters it by drawing a
- 10:06sharp philosophical distinction between subordinate ends and the
- 10:10highest end. OK, break that down for.
- 10:12Us A subordinate end is a goal that exists only to facilitate a
- 10:16further, greater goal. Edwards concedes that men were
- 10:18indeed made to be useful to one another.
- 10:21So being a good parent, a helpful neighbor, and a
- 10:24productive citizen, those are all legitimate design functions.
- 10:28Yes, but all of these horizontal relationships are strictly
- 10:31subordinate. There are inferior ends designed
- 10:34to create a stable environment so that the supreme vertical end
- 10:36glorifying God can be achieved. If a society is peaceful and
- 10:40fed, the people have the capacity to worship.
- 10:43Precisely so if you hit the subordinate goal but miss the
- 10:47main goal, the whole enterprise is consider a failure.
- 10:50It is entirely void. Edwards argues that a
- 10:52subordinate end is completely useless if the supreme end is
- 10:55not met. He uses several incredibly vivid
- 10:59analogies to make this logic inescapable, doesn't he?
- 11:02He really does. Let's look at the analogy of the
- 11:04house. Imagine you are building a
- 11:07magnificent home. You dig deep into the earth and
- 11:09lay a really strong stone foundation.
- 11:13The underpinning. Right, the underpinning, the
- 11:15subordinate end of that foundation is to hold up the
- 11:17walls and the roof. Then you frame the house and
- 11:19install beautiful expansive clear windows.
- 11:23And the subordinate end of the windows is to let in the
- 11:25sunlight and keep out the wind. So the Foundation is holding,
- 11:29the windows are shining, the individual components are
- 11:32executing their specific jobs. Florida State.
- 11:34Yet what is the highest end of the house?
- 11:37It is to provide a home for an inhabitant.
- 11:39It is built to be lived in. If the house is finished but it
- 11:42remains completely empty forever.
- 11:44If no one ever walks through the door, lights a fire in the
- 11:47hearth or sleeps in the bedrooms, and the entire
- 11:49structure was built in vain. The strong foundation is wasted.
- 11:53The clear windows letting in light are wasted because there
- 11:55is no one inside the rooms to benefit from the illumination.
- 11:59The subordinate ends function perfectly, but without the
- 12:02highest end the house is a total failure.
- 12:05He applies the same brutal logic to the farmer.
- 12:08A farmer goes out into his field.
- 12:09He works the dirt. He sows the seed.
- 12:12He uses fertilizer. He weeds the Rose.
- 12:14And the subordinate end of all that labor is to produce a
- 12:17massive, healthy crop. Let's say he succeeds
- 12:20brilliantly. The wheat grows tall, golden and
- 12:23heavy with grain. But the highest end of that crop
- 12:27is to feed the farmer and his family to sustain their lives.
- 12:31If a lightning strike starts a fire that sweeps through the
- 12:33field the day before the harvest and burns the entire crop to
- 12:36ash, the farmers labor was entirely in vain.
- 12:39The crop grew, the subordinate end was met.
- 12:42The stocks did what stocks are supposed to do, but the highest
- 12:45end was thwarted, rendering the entire agricultural process
- 12:48avoid. The most intricate analogy he
- 12:50uses to demonstrate this is the clock.
- 12:53Think about the internal mechanics of an 18th century
- 12:55timepiece. You have dozens of tiny brass
- 12:58wheels, gears and pinions inside the casing.
- 13:01One wheel meshes perfectly with the teeth of another.
- 13:03The mainspring provides constant tension.
- 13:06The gears turn with mathematical precision.
- 13:09And the subordinate end of each individual gear is simply to
- 13:12turn the next gear in the sequence.
- 13:14The internal mechanism is a marvel of engineering.
- 13:17The gears are doing exactly what they were designed to do.
- 13:20But the only reason those gears were forged, cut and assembled
- 13:24is to eventually move the hands on the face of the clock.
- 13:27Or to strike the hammer on the bell so that a human being in
- 13:29the room can know what time it is.
- 13:31If the motion of those perfect little gears never reaches the
- 13:33hands and the clock face is frozen at 12:00, the clock is
- 13:37broken. The entire apparatus is totally
- 13:40in vain. Even though the gears are
- 13:42helping each other inside the box.
- 13:43That is such a striking, devastating parallel to human
- 13:47society. We are the gears.
- 13:49We can help each other out. We can move each other forward.
- 13:52We can be good neighbors, helpful citizens, and loving
- 13:55family members. One gear turning, another gear.
- 13:58But if that horizontal motion never translates into the
- 14:01vertical purpose pointing to the glory of God on the face of the
- 14:05clock, then the entire human machine is broken.
- 14:09We are just spinning in a closed box, accomplishing nothing of
- 14:13eternal value. If men actively bring no glory
- 14:16to God, they are, as to their own activity, altogether
- 14:19useless. Regardless of how much they
- 14:22promote the benefit of their fellow gears.
- 14:24This logic forces us to address another natural objection.
- 14:28What about historical figures or even people operating today who
- 14:31clearly do not care about God, but their actions end up
- 14:35massively benefiting those who do?
- 14:37Like an atheist scientist who invents a medical cure that
- 14:39saves hundreds of thousands of lives.
- 14:41Yeah, many of the people saved by that cure go on to live long,
- 14:45fruitful God honoring lives. The scientist's invention
- 14:48directly facilitated the bearing of spiritual fruit.
- 14:51So is the scientist therefore bearing fruit?
- 14:53Edwards introduces A vital distinction here between
- 14:55accidental usefulness and designed usefulness.
- 14:58He concedes that a wicked man might be highly serviceable to
- 15:01the public. He might do things that greatly
- 15:03advantage good men, putting them in a position to bring forth
- 15:06fruit to God. But the critical factor is
- 15:09intention. This serviceability was not what
- 15:12the wicked man aimed at. It was not his conscious design
- 15:15to glorify God. Because his intention was not
- 15:18directed upward, he gets zero credit for the upward fruit that
- 15:22eventually results. Edwards argues that whenever
- 15:24this happens, no thanks are due to the wicked man.
- 15:27He's only the occasion of the fruit, not the designing.
- 15:30Cause The fruit that is brought forth is not his fruit.
- 15:34He compares these individuals to lifeless materials, which is a
- 15:38profoundly humbling demotion for anyone priding themselves on
- 15:42their societal contributions. He points out that a godly man
- 15:45needs timber and stones to build his house.
- 15:48He needs wool and flax to make clothes so he can stay warm
- 15:51while he goes to public worship. The timber, the stones, the
- 15:54wool, they are all necessary and useful.
- 15:57They help the godly man bear fruit.
- 15:59But you would never say the wood and the stones are bearing
- 16:01spiritual fruit. They're just dead objects being
- 16:03utilized by an active agent. He points to biblical history to
- 16:07back this up, specifically referencing Pagan kings like
- 16:11Cyrus and Artaxerxes. These were rulers of massive,
- 16:15sprawling empires who worshipped false gods and had no personal
- 16:19allegiance to the God of Israel. Yet God sovereignly used them to
- 16:23issue political decrees that allowed the exiled Israelites to
- 16:26return to Jerusalem, rebuild the city walls, and reconstruct the
- 16:30Temple. They were political instruments.
- 16:33They provided the funding, the timber, and the legal permission
- 16:36for worship to resume. They were tools in the the hand
- 16:38of the Almighty. They were acting out of
- 16:40geopolitical calculation, securing their borders and
- 16:43managing their vassal states. Right.
- 16:45They were not acting out of a desire to glorify the God of the
- 16:48Bible. Therefore, their usefulness was
- 16:50purely accidental as far as their own moral ledgers were
- 16:53concerned. They functioned like the timber
- 16:54and the stones. God used their political
- 16:57ambitions to achieve His supreme end, but the kings themselves
- 17:01were acting strictly on subordinate earthly motives.
- 17:04I have to pause here because this totally upends modern
- 17:06metrics for human value. Oh, absolutely.
- 17:09Today, we measure a person's worth by their visible impact,
- 17:13their resume, their philanthropic donations, their
- 17:15humanitarian awards, their technological innovations.
- 17:18We built statues to people who move society forward.
- 17:21But Edward steps in and invalidates all of that human
- 17:25achievement if the core hidden intention is not directed
- 17:29upward. He is arguing that you can
- 17:31eradicate a disease, you can feed an entire impoverished
- 17:34nation, but if your heart is not actively aligned with the
- 17:37Creator, your spiritual Ledger is completely blank.
- 17:41You are just a very helpful stone.
- 17:43You are a useful piece of timber.
- 17:44You have achieved nothing of eternal substance.
- 17:47This view demands absolute internal alignment with divine
- 17:50will. It eradicates any reliance on
- 17:52superficial morality or civic virtue as a means of justifying
- 17:56one's existence before the Creator.
- 17:58It is a terrifying standard because it bypasses the visible
- 18:00outcome and judges the hidden motive of the heart.
- 18:04If the motive is not the glory of God, the action is dead.
- 18:06So if these individuals are actively useless, if their good
- 18:10deeds do not count because their aims are earthbound and they are
- 18:14bearing no true fruit, where do they belong in the cosmic order?
- 18:18Edwards argues that an unfruitful person fundamentally
- 18:22does not fit anywhere in the universe.
- 18:25They're completely incompatible with both Earth and Heaven.
- 18:28The lease on their existence is fundamentally broken.
- 18:31Let's examine the Earth first. Why are they unfit to stay here?
- 18:35Well, Edwards points out that the earth, despite being fallen
- 18:38and corrupted, is still saturated with the streams of
- 18:41divine goodness. The sun continues to shine, the
- 18:44rain continues to fall in its season, the crops continue to
- 18:48grow and yield harvests. But the Earth.
- 18:50Earth is a temporary mixed state.
- 18:52It is a holding area. Edwards relies heavily on the
- 18:55Apostle Paul's theological framework in Romans chapter 8.
- 18:58Where Paul writes that the creation was subjected to
- 19:00vanity, not willingly, and that the whole creation groans and
- 19:04travails in pain together. The imagery Edwards uses to
- 19:07unpack the groaning is visceral. He looks at the physics and
- 19:10thermodynamics of the natural. World, he says the sun is in a
- 19:14constant, furious ferment, unweariedly running its course
- 19:18across the sky every single day. Bringing massive amounts of
- 19:21energy to give light and warmth to man so man can see the glory
- 19:25of God and survive to worship him.
- 19:26And the clouds are constantly laboring, circulating millions
- 19:29of tons of water from the oceans, carrying it over the
- 19:32continental land masses and dropping it as rain to grow
- 19:35food. The animals are giving up their
- 19:37lives, their meat, their labor to sustain human biology.
- 19:42Nature is functioning perfectly and it's assigned subordinate
- 19:45role. It is doing exactly what the
- 19:47creator designed it to do. It is supporting the physical
- 19:50existence of man so man can fulfill the highest end.
- 19:53But when aim is takes all that solar energy, all that fresh
- 19:55water, all that animal protein, and refuses to OfferUp gratitude
- 19:59and obedience to God. Nature is deeply grieved the.
- 20:02Creation is forced into bondage. It has to assist a rebel against
- 20:06its own will. It is like forcing A fiercely
- 20:08loyal soldier to carry ammunition and rations for a
- 20:11traitor who is actively firing on the king.
- 20:13That is a great way to put it. The earth hates it.
- 20:16The sun resents shining on someone who uses that light to
- 20:19sin. The ground resents yielding
- 20:21crops to fuel a body that refuses to bow.
- 20:25Edwards says the earth can scarcely bear wicked men for the
- 20:27short time they are here and is ready to violently spew them
- 20:31out. They are, in his antiquated but
- 20:33precise phrasing, cumbers of the ground.
- 20:36They take up space, they consume massive amounts of cosmic
- 20:39resources, and they offer absolutely nothing in return.
- 20:42Therefore, divine justice and divine wisdom demand that they
- 20:46cannot stay on earth forever. It would be a disparagement of
- 20:49God's wisdom to continually spend His bounty in vain on a
- 20:53barren vine. Since the Earth will eventually
- 20:55evict them, the natural human speculation is why not just send
- 20:58everyone to heaven eventually? Why not universal
- 21:01reconciliation? And Edwards systematically
- 21:03dismantles the idea that an unholy person could ever find
- 21:06peace, let alone joy, in heaven. He breaks the incompatibility
- 21:09down into 3 distinct categories, the company, the employments and
- 21:13the enjoyments. Let's talk about the company.
- 21:15If we drop an unregenerate mind into the company of heaven, you
- 21:20don't get harmony, you get an immediate, violently repulsive
- 21:23reaction. Because the original inhabitants
- 21:25of heaven are the angels and the glorified Saints.
- 21:28These are beings of absolute, unblemished purity who burn with
- 21:32a white hot love for God. To place a carnal, rebellious,
- 21:36self-centered human into that society would create a violently
- 21:39disagreeable union. They have absolutely nothing in
- 21:42common. The conversation, the motives,
- 21:45the entire frequency of existence would be alien and
- 21:49hostile to the unfruitful person.
- 21:50Building on not relational friction, consider the
- 21:53employments of heaven. What do the inhabitants actually
- 21:55do? They worship.
- 21:56They glorify God continually. If a person found going to a one
- 22:00hour church service on Earth tedious, if they found praying
- 22:03to be a boring chore, if they found reading the Bible to be an
- 22:06exhausting intellectual burden, why would they suddenly enjoy
- 22:09doing those exact same activities Florida State, and
- 22:12unceasingly, for all eternity? Planting a barren dead tree in
- 22:16the heavenly paradise makes no logical sense.
- 22:18The soil of heaven does not magically change the nature of
- 22:21the wood. It would still be barren, it
- 22:22would just be barren in a nicer location.
- 22:24The enjoyments of heaven are the final nail in the coffin for
- 22:27this idea. The joys of heaven are intensely
- 22:30holy and spiritual. The primary joy is beholding the
- 22:34unshielded glory of God. Right.
- 22:36And for a mind that only finds pleasure in earthly, physical,
- 22:40selfish, or carnal things, the pure spiritual light of heaven
- 22:44would not be experienced as joy. You'll be agonizing.
- 22:47I think you had an analogy for this earlier.
- 22:49Yes, I like to think of it this way.
- 22:51Imagine taking someone who physically and psychologically
- 22:55despises classical music. They hate the sound of the
- 22:58violin, they load the cello. The temple gives them a
- 23:01migraine. The entire genre irritates them
- 23:04to their core. Got it?
- 23:06Now imagine locking them inside a grand Symphony hall where the
- 23:09world's greatest orchestra is playing Beethoven's Ninth
- 23:11Symphony at full volume on a continuous loop.
- 23:14Forever. That sounds intense.
- 23:16They cannot leave the room. They cannot cover their ears.
- 23:18To the classical music lover, that room is absolute paradise.
- 23:22It is the height of aesthetic ecstasy.
- 23:23But to the person who hates the music, that exact same room with
- 23:27the exact same orchestra playing the exact same notes is literal,
- 23:32inescapable torture. Exactly.
- 23:35That analogy captures the psychological and theological
- 23:38essence of Edward's argument perfectly.
- 23:41The unmediated presence of God is the music.
- 23:44If you do not have a renewed heart that loves the music,
- 23:47being forced into the Symphony Hall of Heaven would be
- 23:50unbearable. They cannot relish it, in
- 23:52Edward's words, they would entirely nauseate it.
- 23:55Heaven was designed as a palace for the king and a fitting
- 23:58reward for the righteous. It was not designed as an asylum
- 24:01for unrepentant rebels. To place the wicked there would
- 24:04introduce chaos and confusion into God's perfect holy order.
- 24:08So we have eliminated all the options.
- 24:10They cannot stay on Earth because the creation is groaning
- 24:12under their weight and will eventually vomit them out.
- 24:15They are fundamentally allergic to heaven.
- 24:16The atmosphere would suffocate them.
- 24:18They have stubbornly refused to be actively useful by bearing
- 24:21fruit. This brings us back to the
- 24:23stark, terrifying binary Ezekiel laid out.
- 24:26If a creature will not be actively useful, the creator
- 24:30will ensure they are passively useful.
- 24:33The unfruitful vine goes to the fire.
- 24:36This brings us to the concept of passive usefulness and
- 24:39destruction. Edwards argues that just as a
- 24:42barren tree dried out and dead makes excellent fuel for a fire,
- 24:46an unfruitful human will be utilized in their destruction.
- 24:50God is sovereign and He will not be frustrated by His creation.
- 24:53He will extract His designated use out of every single creature
- 24:56one way or another. He references the Apostle Paul's
- 24:59letter to Timothy where Paul talks about a great house having
- 25:02vessels of gold and silver meant for honor.
- 25:05But also vessels of wood and earth meant for dishonor.
- 25:08The Master of the House has a specific use for the vessels of
- 25:10Wrath. Edwards details three specific
- 25:13theological ways God extracts utility from the destruction of
- 25:16the wicked. The first method is by
- 25:18glorifying His justice. We live in an an era that
- 25:20focuses almost exclusively on the mercy and love of God to the
- 25:23point of ignoring His other attributes.
- 25:26But Edwards reminds his listeners that vindictive
- 25:28justice, the righteous proportional punishment of moral
- 25:32wrongdoing, is a glorious, essential attribute of the
- 25:35divine nature. Just as mercy seeks an object to
- 25:38shower with grace, justice requires an expression to
- 25:41demonstrate its perfection. To support this, Edwards quotes
- 25:45the Book of Revelation chapter 16, where the angels actually
- 25:49sing praises to God specifically for his devastating judgment.
- 25:52They cry out, Thou art righteous, O Lord, because thou
- 25:56hast judged thus. It is a concept that feels
- 25:59intensely foreign to modern sensibilities, the idea of
- 26:02retributive justice being something so beautiful and
- 26:05perfect that it prompts the angels to erupt and worship.
- 26:08The second way God extracts passive utility is by glorifying
- 26:11His Majesty and His infinite might.
- 26:13He brings up the historical example of Pharaoh from the Book
- 26:16of Exodus to illustrate this mechanism.
- 26:18Why did God deal so severely with the ruler of Egypt?
- 26:21God himself states to reason explicitly.
- 26:23For this cause have I raised the up for to show in thee my power,
- 26:27and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.
- 26:29The sheer dreadfulness of the plagues and the destruction of
- 26:33the Red Sea showcases the infinite magnitude of the
- 26:36Creator. Think about the mechanics of
- 26:38human government. The majesty of an earthly king
- 26:40is entirely supported by the fear and enforcement of his
- 26:43laws. If a king issues decrees, but
- 26:47those laws could be broken by the citizens with 0
- 26:49consequences, the king possesses no actual majesty.
- 26:53He is a figurehead. He's a joke.
- 26:55The severity of the punishment must fit the infinite nature of
- 26:59the one who was offended. If God's laws can be flouted
- 27:02without a catastrophic response, then God's majesty is finite and
- 27:06negligible. God's terrible, overwhelming
- 27:09strength is a necessary component of His glory, and the
- 27:12destruction of the rebel is the canvas on which that strength is
- 27:15displayed. But the third way God extracts
- 27:17utility from the unfruitful vine is the one that forces the
- 27:20modern reader to really pause. Edwards argues that the
- 27:23destruction of the wicked is passively useful because it
- 27:26directly elevates the happiness and the gratitude of the Saints
- 27:29in heaven. I have to stop and wrestle with
- 27:31because as a modern reader, this is a staggering, intensely
- 27:34difficult concept to swallow. It definitely is.
- 27:36The idea that seeing someone else's punishment actively
- 27:39increases your own heavenly joy feels abrasive.
- 27:43It feels uncharitable. It clashes violently with our
- 27:46sensibilities of empathy and compassion.
- 27:48How can a loving St. look at a burning vine and feel joy?
- 27:52It is jarring. It assaults our modern
- 27:54anthropocentric view of the universe, but we have to follow
- 27:59Edwards's theological logic, which is structurally airtight
- 28:02within his scriptural framework. He isn't inventing this out of
- 28:05thin air, is he? No.
- 28:06He references passages like Revelation 14 and Isaiah 66,
- 28:11which explicitly depict the righteous witnessing the final
- 28:14judgement of the transgressors. The mechanics of this joy
- 28:17require careful explanation. Right.
- 28:19Why doesn't the sight of judgement make the Saints weep?
- 28:22Why doesn't it ruin the mood of heaven?
- 28:24Because of the principle of contrast, when the Saints in
- 28:26heaven witnessed the execution of divine justice, they're
- 28:29struck by a heavy, inescapable realization, which is they are
- 28:33made of the exact same biological and spiritual
- 28:35material as those who are perishing by nature.
- 28:38They are no better. They committed the same sins.
- 28:41They harbored the same internal rebellion.
- 28:43They broke the same laws. They deserve the exact same
- 28:46outcome. Precisely.
- 28:47They look at the destruction and the thought that floods their
- 28:50mind is that should be me. That is my rightful place.
- 28:54The stark visual contrast of what they actually deserve
- 28:57versus what they freely received turns their gratitude up to an
- 29:01absolute maximum. It prevents them from ever
- 29:04taking their salvation for granted.
- 29:06It produces an ecstasy of praise for the free, unmerited grace
- 29:09that reached down and rescued them.
- 29:11So they are not rejoicing in the suffering itself.
- 29:14They are not sadists. They are rejoicing in the
- 29:17sovereign grace that made a difference between 2 identical
- 29:20pieces of weak, useless vinewood.
- 29:22One piece of wood is mercifully pulled from the fire, the other
- 29:25is left in to burn, and one pulled out sings infinitely
- 29:29louder because it can smell the smoke on its own bark.
- 29:31The shadows in a painting make the light areas appear vastly
- 29:34brighter. The dark, terrifying backdrop of
- 29:37Divine Justice makes the brilliant colors of Divine Mercy
- 29:40pop with infinite clarity and depth.
- 29:43That is the Puritan understanding of cosmic justice.
- 29:47The universe is a theater designed to display all the
- 29:49attributes of God, and the contrast between the vessels of
- 29:52mercy and the vessels of wrath achieves that display perfectly.
- 29:56It is heavy. It is undeniable that he argues
- 29:59it with sheer scriptural force, but it is an immense weight to
- 30:03place on a congregation. Which means Edwards cannot just
- 30:06leave it there as an abstract academic theological concept.
- 30:10Turrets and sermons were never just lectures.
- 30:12They were surgical instruments. He has to.
- 30:14Pivot. He has to force the listener to
- 30:16look in the mirror. That pivot is the application
- 30:18section, often called the uses of the sermon.
- 30:21Having established the cosmic architecture of utility, he
- 30:25brings the entire massive weight of the argument down onto the
- 30:28shoulders of the individual sitting in the Pew.
- 30:29He. Begins the aggressive process of
- 30:31humiliation and self examination.
- 30:33He addresses the listener directly.
- 30:35He says God will not be frustrated.
- 30:38He will get His glory from your existence, either actively by
- 30:41your obedient fruit bearing life, or passively from your
- 30:45ruin as fuel for the fire. You get to choose the method of
- 30:48your utility, but you do not get to choose whether or not God is
- 30:52glorified by your creation. The house always wins.
- 30:56And then he demands that the listener evaluate their own
- 31:00fruit, and he sets the bar terrifyingly high,
- 31:04systematically ruling out everything we normally count as
- 31:07goodness. He strips away all the
- 31:09superficial layers of civic religion.
- 31:11He says going to public worship simply because it is the custom
- 31:14of your town or your family that is not fruit.
- 31:18Praying in your house just to maintain a reputation as a
- 31:21religious upstanding person, not fruit.
- 31:24Being sober, paying your debts and avoiding scandal just to
- 31:27protect your business interests, not fruit.
- 31:30Because none of those activities require a genuine supernatural
- 31:34affection for God, they are entirely self-serving.
- 31:37I have to highlight a specific quote here because it leaked off
- 31:39the page when I was reading through the sources.
- 31:41Let's hear it. Edwards is targeting people who
- 31:43are highly diligent in their religious duties.
- 31:46They read their Bibles, they attend church, they give to the
- 31:48poor, but they do it purely because they are terrified of
- 31:51going to hell. He looks at those people and
- 31:53says there is Nair a devil in hell, but would gladly do the
- 31:57same. It is a devastating
- 31:59psychological critique. It shook me when I read it.
- 32:01He is saying you are doing all these religious chores simply
- 32:05because you want to avoid physical and spiritual pain.
- 32:08Well, demons want to avoid pain, too.
- 32:10If a demon could escape the fire by sitting in a Pew for an hour
- 32:14on Sunday, they would do it in a hard.
- 32:16Fear of punishment is not love. Doing things to save your own
- 32:20skin is just another form of self preservation.
- 32:22It brings no glory to God because it is not born out of
- 32:26admiration for His beauty. It is born out of a desire to
- 32:29use God as an escape hatch. If we push that logic further,
- 32:33it forces the listener to grapple with their deepest, most
- 32:35hidden motivations. Have you ever in your entire
- 32:38life done one single thing purely out of a gracious
- 32:42respect, delight and love for God Himself?
- 32:44Or has every prayer, every good deed, every religious observance
- 32:48been a calculated transaction for your own benefit?
- 32:51And if you realize you haven't, if the diagnostic machine prints
- 32:55out a receipt that says 0 active fruit, Edwards drives home the
- 32:59absolute shame of that reality. He guides the listener to
- 33:02reflect on the sheer scale of the investment God has made in
- 33:05them. He said look at the endowment of
- 33:07your nature. You are not a cow, you are not a
- 33:09tree. You have a rational soul.
- 33:11You can look. Back to the beginning of time,
- 33:13through history. You can look forward to
- 33:14eternity. You can contemplate the
- 33:16architecture of the universe. Edwards notes that human
- 33:19faculties make us akin to the angels.
- 33:22We possess an astonishing biological and spiritual
- 33:25machinery capable of grasping the infinite.
- 33:28Yes, you have this incredible mental architecture, and to use
- 33:32all of that processing power, all of that emotional depth, all
- 33:35of that memory and foresight just to figure out how to eat,
- 33:38drink, accumulate money, and gratify physical appetite.
- 33:41It is a massive, embarrassing degradation.
- 33:44It makes a human being less useful than a piece of timber.
- 33:48An oak tree quietly and perfectly does what it was made
- 33:50to do. A human endowed with 1000 times
- 33:53more capacity actively rebels against its design and uses its
- 33:58angelic machinery to chase dirt. He recounts all the means of
- 34:02grace provided to humans to facilitate this fruit bearing.
- 34:05It is like the Vine dresser spending his entire life digging
- 34:08about the roots. God didn't just create humans
- 34:10and step back. He sent prophets.
- 34:13He gave us the written word preserved through centuries of
- 34:17blood and fire. Then the unthinkable investment,
- 34:19the incarnation of the Son of God.
- 34:22The Creator of the cosmos took on human flesh, stepped into the
- 34:25dirt, became a teacher, and laid down his life to make atonement
- 34:29for the sins of the branches. He provided the sacraments, the
- 34:32tireless labor of ministers preaching week after week.
- 34:35The amount of spiritual fertilizer, blood and care
- 34:38poured onto this human vine is mathematically incalculable.
- 34:41And if after all of that cosmic effort, after the death of the
- 34:44Son of God and the striving of the Spirit, the vine still
- 34:47produces nothing but wild, bitter, self-serving grapes.
- 34:51The shame of that unprofitableness is
- 34:53overwhelming. You become a nuisance in the
- 34:55creation. You are a black hole consuming
- 34:57grace and emitting nothing. Which leads to his final, urgent
- 35:01exhortation. Having broken down every
- 35:03defense, he pleads with the congregation to bear fruit
- 35:06before the axe falls. But he adds A crucial caveat.
- 35:10He reminds them, and us that God does not actually need our
- 35:13fruit. He is entirely self-sufficient.
- 35:15In the book of Job, the question is asked, can a man be
- 35:18profitable to God? The answer is absolutely no.
- 35:23God is not lonely. He is not hungry.
- 35:25He does not need our worship to sustain his ego.
- 35:27So why demand the fruit with such severe consequences?
- 35:30Because bearing fruit is entirely for your own profit and
- 35:34joy, God has designed the physics of the spiritual
- 35:36universe such that aligning with His will is the only way you
- 35:40will ever taste true sweetness. You will find pleasure, peace,
- 35:44and fulfillment in a holy life, and God has graciously attached
- 35:47everlasting, unspeakable rewards to it.
- 35:49He is literally commanding you to step into your own highest
- 35:52happiness. Is inviting them to function
- 35:54according to their design, which is the only place joy exists.
- 35:57But he balances that gracious invitation with the grim,
- 36:00unalterable alternative. If you remain unprofitable, the
- 36:04lease expires, you'll be cut down.
- 36:07He quotes Christ in John 15, describing how men gather the
- 36:11withered branches and cast them into the fire.
- 36:13He paints this final chilling picture of hell not just as a
- 36:17place of fire, but as a place of absolute sensory and spiritual
- 36:21deprivation. He describes it as the place
- 36:23where nature finally stops laboring for you.
- 36:26The sun will no longer run its unwearied course to shine light
- 36:29on your face. The Earth will no longer grow
- 36:32food for you to consume. The clouds will withhold their
- 36:34reign. The ministers will stop
- 36:36preaching to you. The Bible will be closed.
- 36:39The Vine dresser puts away his tools, turns his back and walks
- 36:43out of the vineyard. It is the place where God's
- 36:45resources stop being wasted on the unfruitful.
- 36:48It is the end of the line for the barren vine.
- 36:51The universe ceases to support the rebel.
- 36:53It is a heavy, heavy document, but the logic is a master class
- 36:57in theological construction. It forces a complete ground up
- 37:00re evaluation of what we consider a successful life.
- 37:03It removes the comfortable middle ground we all try to live
- 37:05in. We want to be decent people
- 37:06without being devoted people. Edwards eliminates that
- 37:09category. He takes away Gray area
- 37:12entirely. You are either the house filled
- 37:14with light and a divine inhabitant, or you are an empty
- 37:18hollow shell waiting to be torn down for firewood.
- 37:21Which brings me back to the thought we started with the
- 37:23diagnostic machine. Right, if we plug our modern
- 37:26lives with all our achievements, our bank accounts or societal
- 37:29contributions into Edwards criteria, the readout is
- 37:33brutally clear. Active fruit or passive fuel.
- 37:37So I want to leave you with a lingering question to chew on
- 37:40long after the audio stops today.
- 37:42If the entire universe, the sun burning millions of tons of
- 37:45hydrogen, the rain falling from the circulating clouds, the soil
- 37:48turning over, the historical preservation of the scriptures
- 37:51is laboring right now, this very second, to give you the
- 37:55biological and spiritual energy to make a choice.
- 37:57What specifically is the fruit that your life is manufacturing?
- 38:01Are you building something that outlasts the fire, or are you
- 38:03just gathering kindling? Thanks for joining us on this
- 38:06deep dive. We will catch you next time.