Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 8-26-26 Hour 1 - Figuring out the Broncos defense, Moser's wristband/SEC takes a stand/Not down with Dunkman?
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- 0:45Speaker 4: Louis, Missouri. Hey, whoa.
- 0:49Speaker 2: I don't want to derail things.
- 0:51Speaker 5: What's on your wrist? What's on your wrist? What is
- 0:53Speaker 5: going on with your right wrist?
- 0:54Speaker 2: What's going on with the wrist? What's going on with
- 0:56Speaker 2: your right wrist? Don't worry about it.
- 1:00Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no.
- 1:02Speaker 5: It's not how we do this show. What's going on? No,
- 1:06Speaker 5: you took it off. Why were you wearing some sort
- 1:09Speaker 5: of Harley Davidson? I'm not sure what that was. Why
- 1:13Speaker 5: was that on you?
- 1:15Speaker 2: Why is it so thick? All right. Don't ask me
- 1:19Speaker 2: about the thickness of my things, okay?
- 1:22Speaker 4: Why were you wearing a wristband made of leather, and
- 1:28Speaker 4: then you- Why are you suddenly so friggin' observant about
- 1:30Speaker 4: everything that I do as a human being?
- 1:32Speaker 2: Because you raised your- I'm like, what?
- 1:33Speaker 4: What's going on? Am I missing a game this morning?
- 1:35Speaker 2: It wasn't like a little bracelet, though. It's halfway up
- 1:38Speaker 2: your forearm. Hey, listen.
- 1:40Speaker 4: You look like Xena, the warrior princess.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Well, maybe I like to be for Halloween. Let me
- 1:45Speaker 2: explain something about this.
- 1:45Speaker 4: Oh, so it's a Halloween costume. Yeah, let me explain
- 1:47Speaker 4: something about this contest. Tickets and hotel in Kansas City,
- 1:54Speaker 4: I think that's enough for our listeners, okay, of this station.
- 1:58Speaker 2: That's enough. I would say we'll give you the prize, okay,
- 2:03Speaker 2: but you got to earn it. You got to walk.
- 2:07Speaker 4: Nope.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Start walking.
- 2:09Speaker 4: Part of the prize is that airfare. The best you're
- 2:11Speaker 4: going to get, like I said before, Vic, is a donkey.
- 2:14Speaker 4: So we'll put you on the back of a donkey.
- 2:16Speaker 4: We'll point it east and give it a whack on
- 2:18Speaker 4: the tail and off you go. Because this is a
- 2:21Speaker 4: great prize.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 2:22Speaker 3: You know what I heard yesterday from Vance Joseph that
- 2:25Speaker 3: I think we're so lucky here in Denver. And you
- 2:31Speaker 3: almost kind of forget how unique the situation is. Vance
- 2:34Speaker 3: was a head coach who was fired here. Only to
- 2:37Speaker 3: come back and be an elite level defensive coordinator. And
- 2:43Speaker 3: Had opportunities again last year, at least interviews for other jobs.
- 2:46Speaker 6: We had a great week of work. We had our
- 2:49Speaker 6: best Wednesday of the year.
- 2:50Speaker 3: Came back and at practice yesterday said something that I
- 2:55Speaker 3: think is so true. And it's something that applied to
- 2:58Speaker 3: the Packers preseason game, but I think also to what
- 3:02Speaker 3: happened towards the end of the year last year where
- 3:04Speaker 3: the defense took a step down maybe.
- 3:06Speaker 4: He said this.
- 3:07Speaker 6: That game was an example of what is coming in
- 3:10Speaker 6: the future. How teams see us. Run game-wise, pass game-wise,
- 3:15Speaker 6: winning first down with quick game, boots, outside runs more
- 3:18Speaker 6: often than inside runs. So to me, it was a
- 3:21Speaker 6: great lesson on both ends of when we play, it's
- 3:24Speaker 6: a standard. And I want to see it all the time.
- 3:28Speaker 6: And obviously how teams see us. And in two weeks,
- 3:30Speaker 6: we've seen that kind of trend that way.
- 3:33Speaker 3: So he was talking about, and I'll give you another
- 3:35Speaker 3: clip here, something specific. It's when you identify what a
- 3:38Speaker 3: team does best, how do you negate that?
- 3:40Speaker 6: I think that first drive was kind of twofold. You know,
- 3:43Speaker 6: for me, our approach, in my opinion, was unengaged and
- 3:47Speaker 6: a little bit lazy, right? It wasn't the right approach,
- 3:50Speaker 6: even in pregame. So I felt that. So that was
- 3:52Speaker 6: the first lesson. The second lesson is, I think that
- 3:56Speaker 6: two games, you know, what we've played here, we've seen
- 3:58Speaker 6: how offenses see us, right? So lots of boots. Lots
- 4:02Speaker 6: of misdirection, outside runs more often than not, match protection passes,
- 4:07Speaker 6: quick game, you know. Teams don't want to lose first
- 4:10Speaker 6: down because if they do lose first down, our rush
- 4:12Speaker 6: kind of comes alive.
- 4:14Speaker 3: What are you best at? As an entire roster, what
- 4:17Speaker 3: are you best at?
- 4:17Speaker 2: Getting to the quarterback. Yeah, getting to the quarterback. Getting
- 4:19Speaker 2: your butts to the quarterback.
- 4:20Speaker 5: And teams are figuring out that was a very, I mean,
- 4:23Speaker 5: he's very transparent there. They have to do a better
- 4:27Speaker 5: job of mixing things up, I guess, so they don't
- 4:29Speaker 5: get figured out.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Well, and I think if you go back to last year,
- 4:32Speaker 3: because Vic, wasn't it you a couple days ago that
- 4:34Speaker 3: went through sort of the end of the year last
- 4:36Speaker 3: year for the Broncos defense and what happened?
- 4:38Speaker 2: Yeah, we did it yesterday.
- 4:40Speaker 4: Sort of end of the year, they were not nearly
- 4:42Speaker 4: as sharp as they were at the beginning of the year.
- 4:45Speaker 4: And how much of that is fatigue? How much of
- 4:46Speaker 4: that is just being figured out?
- 4:49Speaker 3: I think part of that is probably fatigue of being
- 4:51Speaker 3: on the field for a lot of the year. The
- 4:53Speaker 3: second part, though, is, look, man, if you're good at
- 4:57Speaker 3: really anything, if you're a great pitcher in baseball, if
- 4:59Speaker 3: you're a hitter, if you're a great three-point shooter in
- 5:02Speaker 3: the NBA, teams will find ways to combat what you
- 5:06Speaker 3: do best and make it difficult on you.
- 5:09Speaker 4: Why do you think teams around the league, and I
- 5:11Speaker 4: hate it, but trapping teams against the Avs, they trap
- 5:15Speaker 4: the hell out of them. Because the Avs' speed will
- 5:20Speaker 4: bust you up. And so they trap in the neutral zone,
- 5:22Speaker 4: and it's exhausting to watch. Not fun to be a
- 5:27Speaker 4: part of. But that's the only way teams survive, so
- 5:30Speaker 4: there you go.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Everybody adapts. And what did teams start doing against the Nuggets?
- 5:33Speaker 5: They took a little, put them on Joker in the paint,
- 5:36Speaker 5: and had them shadow Joker everywhere. So, yeah, there's always
- 5:39Speaker 5: strategical moves that you have to be able to counter.
- 5:42Speaker 4: I mean, he wore Caruso like a baby Bjorn. Ridiculous.
- 5:46Speaker 3: The Broncos aren't just good at rushing the passer. They're
- 5:50Speaker 3: historically good. I mean, they almost set a record two
- 5:53Speaker 3: years in a row for team sacks in a season.
- 5:56Speaker 3: So teams are like, all right, if I can pick
- 5:59Speaker 3: up X amount of yards on first down and I
- 6:00Speaker 3: can do that through quick game or quarterback boot or
- 6:04Speaker 3: outside run or whatever, and it's second and four, well,
- 6:09Speaker 3: now that pass rush can't just pin their ears back
- 6:11Speaker 3: and be like, hey, it's time to go get them.
- 6:13Speaker 2: We have to do things differently.
- 6:16Speaker 3: And for him to recognize that, I think, is another
- 6:19Speaker 3: example of why he's so good at this job is
- 6:24Speaker 3: he knows. He knows that they're going to counter with this,
- 6:28Speaker 3: so we need to figure out a way to counter back. Now,
- 6:32Speaker 3: for the Broncos' defense, I don't know what's going to
- 6:37Speaker 3: happen on Friday. I don't know if starters are going
- 6:42Speaker 3: to play or not, but part of me, did you
- 6:47Speaker 3: guys see Jamar Chase yesterday in practice?
- 6:49Speaker 4: Ooh, scary.
- 6:50Speaker 3: So, turns out it's just like a bone bruise. But
- 6:53Speaker 3: it looked really bad for a second. That's where all
- 6:57Speaker 3: the blood, Vic, the blood rushes out.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Of your skull.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:02Speaker 4: Down to your feet, and you turn ghost white. Any
- 7:05Speaker 4: team would have that happen. I don't know if I
- 7:07Speaker 4: want anybody playing on Friday.
- 7:09Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what?
- 7:11Speaker 3: I think we've seen what we need to see. Keep
- 7:14Speaker 3: everybody in bubble wrap. Get ready for the year.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Vic, I can sit here on this program and go, oh, man,
- 7:19Speaker 2: it's football. You know, you got to. Guys need to
- 7:22Speaker 2: be tackled, man. J.K., he needs to get hit a
- 7:24Speaker 2: couple times, man. You know, blah, blah, blah. I could
- 7:27Speaker 2: talk all week about that. And then I watch the
- 7:30Speaker 2: video of Jamar Chase going down and I go, man, no.
- 7:33Speaker 4: Yeah, but that happened in a practice. I know, but
- 7:35Speaker 4: I'm just saying, period, because if you lose a guy
- 7:39Speaker 4: like that, you almost lose the season.
- 7:41Speaker 2: I mean, the Bengals would lose their season. Would they not?
- 7:44Speaker 2: Or close to it?
- 7:45Speaker 4: I mean, yeah.
- 7:46Speaker 3: It would take some heavy lifting by Burrow.
- 7:49Speaker 4: So then you have a panic attack, and then you
- 7:51Speaker 4: try to reset your brain, Vic, and say, well, it's football.
- 7:55Speaker 4: But that split second, panic sets in. You know, Peyton,
- 8:00Speaker 4: Sean Peyton, does play as starters in game three. I mean,
- 8:04Speaker 4: I know we've only been doing this abbreviated preseason for
- 8:07Speaker 4: a while, for a little bit now, but he's not
- 8:10Speaker 4: afraid to play as starters a.
- 8:11Speaker 2: Little bit in these games. So do I need to
- 8:14Speaker 2: see Bo? Not really. Would I be surprised if he plays?
- 8:17Speaker 4: Not really. No.
- 8:19Speaker 2: The bigger surprise would be like J.K.
- 8:21Speaker 4: Dobbins.
- 8:22Speaker 2: What do you do with him?
- 8:23Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Bo can play a couple series and
- 8:27Speaker 4: get in, get out. It won't be a big deal.
- 8:31Speaker 2: But a guy like J.K. Dobbins, who.
- 8:35Speaker 5: Has suffered injury in the past, and even in this camp,
- 8:39Speaker 5: has missed a couple practices. Those are the guys that
- 8:42Speaker 5: I wonder, do you even play them?
- 8:44Speaker 3: Well, there's something to be said here for, you know,
- 8:47Speaker 3: going back to the Vance Joseph clip of teams figuring
- 8:51Speaker 3: things out. You need to counter what they're doing to,
- 8:54Speaker 3: you know, keep up with the Joneses. I was wondering
- 8:58Speaker 3: something in regards to the Broncos in last year, and
- 9:02Speaker 3: I'm going to make a comparison to the Avs. Because
- 9:04Speaker 3: I still wonder, Moj, with the way the Avs season ended,
- 9:07Speaker 3: they were the best team in hockey from start to finish.
- 9:10Speaker 3: Like the first game of the year to the last
- 9:12Speaker 3: game of the year to two rounds into the playoffs.
- 9:14Speaker 3: There was no question who the best team in the
- 9:16Speaker 3: league was.
- 9:18Speaker 4: They were the best team in hockey. I mean, they
- 9:20Speaker 4: were 8-1 in the postseason going into the West Final.
- 9:23Speaker 2: The trouble I have is, was it almost too easy?
- 9:30Speaker 3: When they faced the adversity, was it harder to respond
- 9:33Speaker 3: because it was really the first time they faced it
- 9:35Speaker 3: the entire year? Not to say that they didn't have
- 9:37Speaker 3: a couple of, you know, when Landy and Lekanen went down,
- 9:39Speaker 3: they had some losing that happened there. But they were
- 9:42Speaker 3: so far in the lead, it felt like it didn't
- 9:44Speaker 3: really matter. You know, for the Broncos, if you guys remember,
- 9:48Speaker 3: the Broncos started last year through three games, what?
- 9:51Speaker 2: They're 1-2.
- 9:51Speaker 3: They lost in Week 2 to Indianapolis. They lost in
- 9:55Speaker 3: Week 3 to the Chargers.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Close games, by the way. And then they went 14-1.
- 10:00Speaker 3: To the AFC championship game. Never faced real adversity. I
- 10:05Speaker 3: wonder how they respond to that. If they get this
- 10:08Speaker 3: first six weeks of the year that are going to
- 10:09Speaker 3: be incredibly difficult against really good teams. If they get
- 10:14Speaker 3: punched in the mouth a few times, how do you respond?
- 10:16Speaker 4: We've already seen how they've responded the year before they responded.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Remember, the year before.
- 10:24Speaker 4: What? I just saw that wristband again. Sorry. It was
- 10:27Speaker 4: very distracting. It's huge.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Can I just see? Let's get it out of the way.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Just get it out of the way.
- 10:34Speaker 4: Let me just see it real quick.
- 10:39Speaker 2: It's just big. It's big.
- 10:40Speaker 4: It's very big. This is my personal relationship between myself
- 10:43Speaker 4: and my God. Now, you want to get involved in that?
- 10:46Speaker 4: Let's get involved.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Just large.
- 10:49Speaker 5: I mean, it's just a large leather wristband. I mean,
- 10:53Speaker 5: I have no problem with what you wear.
- 10:54Speaker 2: It's the way I live life, baby. I live life large.
- 10:56Speaker 3: What if I had like a Flavor Flav size crucifix
- 11:00Speaker 3: that was right here on my neck?
- 11:01Speaker 2: Wouldn't you be like, that's pretty big.
- 11:03Speaker 4: Wouldn't you say that to me?
- 11:04Speaker 2: You know what I'd say to you, my good friend?
- 11:06Speaker 2: You know what I'd say to you, my good friend?
- 11:07Speaker 2: That's badass. I wouldn't be here ripping you.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 11:11Speaker 4: Anyway.
- 11:12Speaker 5: We have already seen that the Broncos have a history
- 11:15Speaker 5: of being able to bounce back.
- 11:16Speaker 4: They did it two seasons ago.
- 11:17Speaker 5: Remember, they lose that game in Kansas City, and everybody's like, oh, well,
- 11:20Speaker 5: there goes the season. And what do they do right
- 11:22Speaker 5: after that loss?
- 11:23Speaker 4: Do you remember?
- 11:25Speaker 2: They won like five in a row.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Two seasons ago, as in the Russell Wilson year?
- 11:29Speaker 2: No, two seasons ago, Bodex rookie year.
- 11:32Speaker 3: The same thing happened in Russell Wilson's year, by the way.
- 11:35Speaker 3: They lost to KC, and then they rattled off like
- 11:36Speaker 3: five to six. So what they did, Vic, yeah, they– Yeah,
- 11:41Speaker 3: they lost to Kansas City 16-14. That made them 5-5,
- 11:44Speaker 3: and then they won four straight.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Yeah, they won.
- 11:46Speaker 4: Four in a row, and then they lost a couple.
- 11:49Speaker 4: Then they won four. So you wonder, how will they
- 11:53Speaker 4: deal with adversity?
- 11:54Speaker 5: I think a Sean Payton team has already proven it
- 11:56Speaker 5: can deal pretty damn well with adversity.
- 11:58Speaker 4: They've shown us. They've done it.
- 12:01Speaker 2: They could.
- 12:02Speaker 3: It's just something where last year felt, not that last
- 12:05Speaker 3: year was easy.
- 12:06Speaker 4: It was far from easy.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Those games were not easy games.
- 12:10Speaker 3: But they always came out on top, which always puts
- 12:13Speaker 3: a salve on everything. You know, I think Joker's the
- 12:15Speaker 3: one who said it was last year, two years ago.
- 12:18Speaker 3: Winning can mask a lot of things.
- 12:20Speaker 4: It's true.
- 12:20Speaker 2: That's what he said, Vic. You recall that. That was
- 12:22Speaker 2: during the really good run.
- 12:24Speaker 4: How many games, Vic, did.
- 12:26Speaker 2: They win in a row in that span? To close
- 12:30Speaker 2: the year?
- 12:30Speaker 4: No, no.
- 12:30Speaker 2: This was before the All-Star break. This was before the
- 12:32Speaker 2: All-Star break.
- 12:33Speaker 7: Right.
- 12:33Speaker 2: That's what he said.
- 12:33Speaker 5: I forgot what the win streak was, but they were
- 12:35Speaker 5: on one of those January, February win streaks.
- 12:38Speaker 4: And now... Now, you know, I've talked to a bunch
- 12:40Speaker 4: of people about, like, January. Beware of the January.
- 12:44Speaker 5: Win streaks because a lot of teams prior to the
- 12:47Speaker 5: All-Star break, they sort of get into that, oh, God,
- 12:51Speaker 5: we're tired mode. And you wonder how real those streaks are.
- 12:57Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 12:58Speaker 4: Well, the opposite is true as well because the Avs,
- 13:01Speaker 4: when Landy and Devon Taves got hurt in January, right, Brett?
- 13:05Speaker 7: Yes.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Remember, they started to skid. Yeah, so this.
- 13:08Speaker 4: But that wasn't a real... I mean, that wasn't a
- 13:10Speaker 4: real indicator of what this team was. So that was
- 13:13Speaker 4: heading into the All-Star break. That was the year that
- 13:15Speaker 4: Malone was let go, right?
- 13:16Speaker 7: Yes.
- 13:18Speaker 3: They won three, six, eight games in a row heading
- 13:22Speaker 3: into the All-Star break.
- 13:25Speaker 2: And yeah, it just.
- 13:26Speaker 3: I think I remember Kroenke was thinking about making a
- 13:29Speaker 3: change at that point, but then they were winning, so
- 13:31Speaker 3: it's like, oh, I guess I can't do it now.
- 13:34Speaker 2: All right, so... Here's what I've deduced. Either you've been
- 13:37Speaker 2: watching a bunch.
- 13:38Speaker 4: Of ZZ Top videos or you bought a new chopper.
- 13:43Speaker 3: Did you get a new chopper?
- 13:44Speaker 2: Did you get a chopper?
- 13:46Speaker 5: Because there's no way you go home and go into
- 13:50Speaker 5: your bedroom, your jewelry box and say, oh yeah, I'm
- 13:55Speaker 5: going to wear the leather wristband again.
- 13:57Speaker 4: Okay.
- 13:57Speaker 5: Unless something motivated you to do that.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you want the whole story. Because
- 14:04Speaker 2: I'll give you the whole story.
- 14:07Speaker 4: Is it interesting?
- 14:09Speaker 3: Do you have an abbreviated version of the story?
- 14:11Speaker 4: My necklace, the clasp broke on my necklace. Okay.
- 14:16Speaker 2: So I went to Hobby Lobby, and I got.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Dude gets his jewelry at Hobby Lobby.
- 14:23Speaker 4: No, the piece of the necklace is fine, but the
- 14:27Speaker 4: clasp broke on the little leather. I've had it for
- 14:29Speaker 4: a long time. So I went to Hobby Lobby, and
- 14:31Speaker 4: I got a new one. I'm like, oh, this is perfect.
- 14:33Speaker 4: And I put it on, and it's like a choker.
- 14:35Speaker 2: It's like... It's too tight. Either that or your neck grew.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Maybe you're... No, no, no, no, no. I mean, it's
- 14:42Speaker 2: a choker, bro. And so now I'm like, I can't
- 14:45Speaker 2: wear that. I put it on, and I can't wear this.
- 14:48Speaker 2: So I saw this.
- 14:49Speaker 4: So you switched to the wrist and decided it was
- 14:50Speaker 4: a good idea.
- 14:51Speaker 2: I grabbed my watch on the way out, and I
- 14:52Speaker 2: saw this. I go, you know what? We'll represent.
- 14:56Speaker 4: But I did not expect it to be like this.
- 14:59Speaker 2: But on this show, you know how we are with appearances. Right, correct.
- 15:03Speaker 5: You thought you could just scoot on by without any discussion?
- 15:08Speaker 4: Moshe, hang on.
- 15:09Speaker 3: You put that on this morning and you go, something's
- 15:12Speaker 3: going to be said about this.
- 15:13Speaker 4: You knew it. It doesn't even come up on camera.
- 15:17Speaker 4: It does when you go like this.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Yeah, when you raise your hands, you can't miss it. Well,
- 15:20Speaker 2: I'm not raising my hands anymore. I'm not wearing a wristband.
- 15:23Speaker 5: It would be like me wearing a neck brace.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Check this out, Brett, too, on the backside. Put your
- 15:28Speaker 2: money in it.
- 15:29Speaker 4: That's great.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:33Speaker 2: 303-504-0925. Got a keyword coming your way.
- 15:36Speaker 4: I just wonder, like, is anybody else, is anybody listening
- 15:41Speaker 4: to this show? Anybody, please.
- 15:42Speaker 2: And again, I don't want to be judgmental. I want
- 15:45Speaker 2: to learn about people.
- 15:47Speaker 5: Is anybody else out there listening or watching the show
- 15:50Speaker 5: currently donning a leather wristband.
- 15:54Speaker 4: Please let me know. Maybe you're not alone. Maybe you
- 15:58Speaker 4: have people out there.
- 15:59Speaker 2: I don't think I am.
- 16:00Speaker 4: You know what?
- 16:01Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. The death of Dolly Parton's had
- 16:03Speaker 2: an effect on me. Seems like it.
- 16:05Speaker 4: I don't think if there was a country singer that
- 16:08Speaker 4: could be beautified as a saint, I think it's her.
- 16:14Speaker 2: We all love Dolly. Dude, I mean, from the royal.
- 16:17Speaker 4: Family, you know that she did a duet with Motley Crue?
- 16:21Speaker 4: She took their Home Sweet Home song and redid it?
- 16:23Speaker 4: Motley Crue would wear a leather wristband.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Yeah, Motley Crue.
- 16:26Speaker 3: What's his name, Tommy Lee?
- 16:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm watching Rob Halford from Judas Priest. And she
- 16:33Speaker 4: asked him to be on one of her albums, and
- 16:35Speaker 4: he was.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Like, she touched every aspect of musical life. Everything from Eminem.
- 16:40Speaker 2: I mean, everything. To Whitney Houston, obviously.
- 16:43Speaker 4: It's insane, bro.
- 16:44Speaker 5: Okay, if you are out there listening to this show,
- 16:47Speaker 5: watching this show, in the entire world, if you're wearing
- 16:50Speaker 5: a leather wristband, send me proof.
- 16:52Speaker 2: You got to at least text it in.
- 16:53Speaker 4: Because we have one. We have one person wearing one,
- 16:56Speaker 4: our host. If anybody else.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Where's Matty B? Matty B, get on this. Help me.
- 17:02Speaker 3: We'll have another keyword, a chance to get you qualified
- 17:04Speaker 3: for a rock, paper, scissors tournament to send you into
- 17:08Speaker 3: Kansas City for game one of the season. By the way,
- 17:11Speaker 3: the 6 a.m. qualifier was Trevor Richards. Congratulations to Trevor. So,
- 17:17Speaker 3: another qualifier in the next 30 minutes.
- 17:20Speaker 4: Yes.
- 17:21Speaker 2: Rory goes... Is it a play calling?
- 17:23Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on.
- 17:27Speaker 2: Let's see underneath. X35, Razor, Z-Square, right on three. Ready, break.
- 17:34Speaker 4: All right.
- 17:34Speaker 2: I want to stop real quick.
- 17:35Speaker 4: Why? I thought Krekman and Lindahl yesterday, when they were
- 17:38Speaker 4: talking about Dolly Parton, they were incredibly kind to that woman.
- 17:45Speaker 2: They were right on the money. Like, Krekman was so right.
- 17:48Speaker 4: He's like, you can't find a person on the planet
- 17:51Speaker 4: that somebody, will not say something about, right, in a
- 17:56Speaker 4: negative way or a slight way or something like that.
- 17:59Speaker 4: I don't know how, I don't know that there's a
- 18:02Speaker 4: human on the planet that would ever have even the
- 18:05Speaker 4: slightest of harsh words for Dolly Parton, man.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Yeah, she was great. She gave, I mean, she gave
- 18:10Speaker 2: like $ 500 million to charity. Who else is like that?
- 18:14Speaker 2: Half a billion. I mean, she's universally beloved celebrity.
- 18:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Like who out there? There's nobody.
- 18:20Speaker 4: There's nobody on the planet like that. I'm telling you, bro.
- 18:23Speaker 4: This is one of a kind human being never to
- 18:25Speaker 4: be seen again. I'm telling you.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Do people hate Peyton?
- 18:28Speaker 4: Peyton is pretty universally beloved, isn't he? Peyton Manning was
- 18:31Speaker 4: the one that they brought up. That's the one they
- 18:35Speaker 4: brought up. But yeah, there are people who have harsh
- 18:37Speaker 4: words for him. I'm sure people in Indy.
- 18:39Speaker 2: I don't. Somebody. Everybody has someone. That doesn't like him
- 18:44Speaker 2: or her. Okay, hang on, hang on. IMDB has a list.
- 18:48Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. Betty White.
- 18:51Speaker 4: Is she still alive?
- 18:53Speaker 2: No, she passed.
- 18:54Speaker 4: Okay.
- 18:54Speaker 6: What?
- 18:54Speaker 2: That's right.
- 18:55Speaker 4: She did. Tick.
- 18:58Speaker 2: We like Betty White. Everybody loves Tick. How about Tick?
- 19:01Speaker 2: Tick is yes. You're right.
- 19:02Speaker 5: Tick at our station. If anyone dislikes Tick for whatever reason,
- 19:07Speaker 5: I dislike them.
- 19:07Speaker 2: They're a bad human.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Say yes or no. First reaction, I just need a
- 19:11Speaker 3: quick yes or no.
- 19:12Speaker 4: Then we'll move on.
- 19:13Speaker 2: What's the yes or no? Are they universally beloved or not?
- 19:17Speaker 2: Betty White.
- 19:18Speaker 7: Yes.
- 19:19Speaker 4: Conan O'Brien.
- 19:21Speaker 3: No.
- 19:22Speaker 2: He's close.
- 19:23Speaker 4: I like Conan. He's funny.
- 19:27Speaker 2: Tom Hanks is always thrown in here.
- 19:28Speaker 4: No. Robin Williams.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Yes, I would say Robin Williams is beloved. Even if
- 19:36Speaker 2: you don't like his comedy.
- 19:38Speaker 4: You don't have a bad thing to say about him
- 19:39Speaker 4: as a human. That's a good list. Denzel.
- 19:42Speaker 6: Yes.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty well universally beloved. Alex Trebek. Well, Sean
- 19:48Speaker 2: Connery didn't like him very much. Shock it, Trebek. What'd
- 19:53Speaker 2: you say? All right, a few more here. Didn't Alex Trebek,
- 20:00Speaker 2: he battled pancreatic cancer, right?
- 20:02Speaker 4: Yeah, he passed away.
- 20:02Speaker 2: A couple years. I don't know anybody who's like, Trebek,
- 20:05Speaker 2: screw that guy.
- 20:06Speaker 4: I hate him.
- 20:07Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean?
- 20:08Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 20:08Speaker 2: All right, just a few more.
- 20:09Speaker 4: Bob Ross.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how do you get mad at a
- 20:11Speaker 2: bushy-haired guy painting trees, man?
- 20:13Speaker 4: This is what bothers me.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Steve Irwin. Oh, the crocodile guy?
- 20:18Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:19Speaker 2: I mean, he sort of put himself in position to.
- 20:21Speaker 4: Got it.
- 20:22Speaker 2: You know what? We all love Norm MacDonald. Well, Norm MacDonald.
- 20:25Speaker 2: All right, just a few more.
- 20:27Speaker 4: Hang on.
- 20:27Speaker 2: Well, I love Norm, yes.
- 20:28Speaker 4: But he had that joke about the crocodile hunter getting killed.
- 20:33Speaker 4: That's one of the funniest things I've ever heard in
- 20:35Speaker 4: my life. Mr. Rogers.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Yeah, who doesn't like Fred Rogers, man? That guy never
- 20:39Speaker 2: heard of fly. Couple more. Keanu Reeves. I'm sure some
- 20:45Speaker 2: people are indifferent to him, but I love him. I
- 20:47Speaker 2: didn't used to love him. I love him now.
- 20:48Speaker 4: Guarantee he wears a leather wristband.
- 20:49Speaker 2: Damn right he does. Dog star.
- 20:52Speaker 4: Morgan Freeman's another one.
- 20:54Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Morgan Freeman.
- 20:56Speaker 4: He's beloved.
- 20:56Speaker 3: Speaking of Crackman Lindahl, they had something to say yesterday.
- 21:01Speaker 3: And I think this is a very interesting perspective. And
- 21:04Speaker 3: we'll get to that in just a moment.
- 21:07Speaker 2: Go ahead, Nellie.
- 21:08Speaker 1: It's time for another Rock Paper Tickets keyword.
- 21:12Speaker 2: Relative. The timeline relative to everything we've discussed. Relative. Relative
- 21:17Speaker 2: to what we're advised to do.
- 21:19Speaker 4: Relative to.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Text it in now to 303-504-0925.
- 21:25Speaker 2: Is the big voice guy on vacation? Is that why
- 21:27Speaker 2: Nelly's doing these words?
- 21:28Speaker 8: Yeah, they needed me to tag in relative to the
- 21:31Speaker 8: production of some of these keywords.
- 21:33Speaker 3: That is the keyword relative, so text that to 303-504-0925
- 21:36Speaker 3: with your first and last name. Qualifier five minutes before
- 21:40Speaker 3: the top of the hour. It gets you entered to
- 21:42Speaker 3: the Rock, Paper, Scissors tournament. Tuesday, rooftop social in Rhino,
- 21:46Speaker 3: and the winner goes to KC with Flight Hotel and
- 21:48Speaker 3: tickets to the first game of the year. Now, the
- 21:52Speaker 3: Big Ten has banned anybody who has participated in basically
- 21:56Speaker 3: professional sports from coming back. The SEC late last night
- 21:59Speaker 3: did the same thing. So that applied to the NFL,
- 22:01Speaker 3: the NBA, and the WNBA. What about the kid that
- 22:04Speaker 3: just went back to the SEC, though?
- 22:07Speaker 2: He's not allowed? He's not allowed.
- 22:08Speaker 4: He's not allowed?
- 22:10Speaker 2: I thought a judge made it allowed. Well, the SEC
- 22:12Speaker 2: just put a ban on it last night.
- 22:14Speaker 4: So I'm assuming that's not allowed.
- 22:15Speaker 5: What if that goes to court, right? That's the thing
- 22:17Speaker 5: that we haven't considered this. What if this judge takes
- 22:20Speaker 5: the SEC... It says, no, you're going to do it.
- 22:23Speaker 3: Okay, well, then the SEC can put the squeeze on
- 22:25Speaker 3: LSU and be like, hey, you're part of this conference.
- 22:28Speaker 2: You can't do it. I mean, that would be my assumption.
- 22:30Speaker 4: But here's what Crackman Lindahl said yesterday.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Different way of thinking, and I think an interesting perspective.
- 22:35Speaker 8: And whether it's crap or not, whether it's some judge
- 22:38Speaker 8: that's just in LSU's pocket or not... Again, are you
- 22:42Speaker 8: really hurting anybody with this whole thing? As long as
- 22:45Speaker 8: the kid didn't go full Brendan Swordsby and bet on
- 22:47Speaker 8: his own team or whatever.
- 22:49Speaker 2: I understand having an issue.
- 22:51Speaker 8: I had a huge issue with Brendan Swordsby.
- 22:53Speaker 4: Sure.
- 22:53Speaker 2: On this one, dude's.
- 22:55Speaker 8: Looking at it going, I'm not going to make this
- 22:57Speaker 8: NFL team.
- 22:58Speaker 7: No.
- 22:58Speaker 8: They just had a ruling that said I can get
- 22:59Speaker 8: a fifth year of eligibility. I would like to continue
- 23:01Speaker 8: to play college football. If I were the NFL and
- 23:03Speaker 8: I were college football, work it out to where if
- 23:05Speaker 8: you decide this kid's not ready, we're sending you back
- 23:07Speaker 8: down for more seasoning the way baseball and hockey does it.
- 23:09Speaker 8: You're a professional minor league.
- 23:11Speaker 2: Just deal with it. Yeah, you've made yourself that. Yeah.
- 23:14Speaker 2: You made yourself that the minute you took millions and
- 23:17Speaker 2: billions of dollars for your TV deal. Exactly.
- 23:20Speaker 8: Let's sell everything to the highest bidder. But then when
- 23:22Speaker 8: this kid tries to go and continue to make a
- 23:24Speaker 8: living as a football player, I'm sorry. That's just not acceptable.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Because remember, he didn't make any money to go to camp.
- 23:30Speaker 2: What do you guys think? I don't disagree with that tenant.
- 23:34Speaker 4: I don't.
- 23:34Speaker 2: I mean, they make a good point. It's not hurting anybody.
- 23:37Speaker 5: To me, it's not him going to an NFL camp
- 23:39Speaker 5: and then retreating back to college. To me, it's that
- 23:41Speaker 5: fifth year. It's that suddenly, oh, everybody's got a fifth
- 23:44Speaker 5: year now, huh? Huh, okay, so now everybody's eligible again, huh?
- 23:48Speaker 5: At some point, you've got to say, no.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Enough of this.
- 23:50Speaker 4: You've been to college long enough.
- 23:53Speaker 7: Enough.
- 23:54Speaker 2: That's the one that gets me.
- 23:55Speaker 4: Well, the quarterback, is it the quarterback in North Carolina has,
- 23:58Speaker 4: this is his seventh year?
- 24:01Speaker 2: Am I right about that? There are stories of guys.
- 24:03Speaker 2: But he's had a bunch of injuries and red shirts
- 24:05Speaker 2: and all sorts. Trinidad Chambliss is another one.
- 24:07Speaker 4: He's in his sixth year.
- 24:08Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the part that bothers me more than anything.
- 24:11Speaker 5: It's not having a cup of coffee in an NFL
- 24:13Speaker 5: camp because Nate's right on that account.
- 24:15Speaker 4: Nate's right.
- 24:16Speaker 5: It's like, okay, so you're not good enough to make
- 24:18Speaker 5: the NFL. What are your options now?
- 24:20Speaker 4: Where do you go? You can go to the CFL.
- 24:22Speaker 4: You can go overseas, I guess.
- 24:24Speaker 5: Or you can just go back to college because that
- 24:26Speaker 5: door is still open.
- 24:27Speaker 4: Why is that door still open is my argument.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Shut the damn door.
- 24:31Speaker 3: There's one big distinction, though, in what they were talking about.
- 24:35Speaker 3: Andy said they do this in the MLB and the NHL.
- 24:38Speaker 3: Do you know what the difference is? What it would
- 24:41Speaker 3: be if the NFL did this? You don't own the
- 24:45Speaker 3: players' rights. If you send a guy to Albuquerque, he's
- 24:48Speaker 3: still a Rocky.
- 24:50Speaker 2: If you send a... If the... A kid goes back
- 24:53Speaker 2: to major junior... If the Avs draft a kid... A
- 24:54Speaker 2: kid goes back to major junior, right.
- 24:56Speaker 3: And he goes back and he plays college hockey or whatever.
- 24:59Speaker 4: You still own the rights to them. Correct. For how long?
- 25:01Speaker 2: How long do you own the rights in the NHL? Forever? Oh, no, no, no.
- 25:07Speaker 4: Because guys will go to college to become eligible again
- 25:11Speaker 4: to sign a free agent contract. It happened, in fact,
- 25:15Speaker 4: that's how the Avs got Alex Kerfoot, and that's how
- 25:18Speaker 4: the New Jersey Devils got Will Butcher. Okay.
- 25:21Speaker 3: Kel McCart played, won a natty, and then was in
- 25:23Speaker 3: the playoffs for the Avs.
- 25:24Speaker 4: Correct. I mean.
- 25:26Speaker 3: The difference here is that guy's no longer part of
- 25:29Speaker 3: your organization. I think where it gets tricky is it's
- 25:32Speaker 3: one thing for the undrafted guy who's not going to
- 25:33Speaker 3: make the roster to leave and go back to LSU.
- 25:36Speaker 3: It's another thing for, how about this? I'll give you
- 25:38Speaker 3: the scenario. Justin Jolie was a fifth-round pick of the Broncos.
- 25:43Speaker 3: He's probably on the roster bubble to make it his
- 25:45Speaker 3: tight end, right? Let's say that they were going to
- 25:48Speaker 3: cut him, hope he clears waivers, and then he goes
- 25:50Speaker 3: to the practice squad. That's now their minor league. Their
- 25:53Speaker 3: minor league is the practice squad now. If he goes
- 25:55Speaker 3: back and he plays Florida, he's no longer a Bronco anymore.
- 25:58Speaker 4: Yeah, so I guess what you're saying is, why doesn't
- 26:00Speaker 4: the NFL adapt a little bit like baseball and hockey?
- 26:03Speaker 4: And let's say he did go back to Florida. Why
- 26:04Speaker 4: wouldn't the Broncos still hold the rights to him? But
- 26:07Speaker 4: these two conferences now have wiped all that possibility out.
- 26:10Speaker 2: They're saying you can't do it.
- 26:11Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
- 26:11Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
- 26:13Speaker 3: If you send somebody down to Albuquerque and let's live
- 26:17Speaker 3: in fairytale land where the Rockies are competitive for postseason
- 26:21Speaker 3: play and it gets to September... and somebody goes down
- 26:24Speaker 3: with an injury, you can call the guy up from Albuquerque,
- 26:28Speaker 3: and even though they might be competing for a AAA
- 26:30Speaker 3: league title, whatever, you're like, yeah, it's fine.
- 26:34Speaker 4: We need him.
- 26:36Speaker 3: What happens when Florida's in the SEC championship game and
- 26:38Speaker 3: you call up that dude from Florida?
- 26:42Speaker 7: College football fans are not going to be happy about that.
- 26:45Speaker 7: They're probably going to freak out. Well, so I guess
- 26:47Speaker 7: I'm confused. I saw the story where the SEC said,
- 26:53Speaker 7: But they specified NFL, NBA, or WNBA. They didn't say, like,
- 27:00Speaker 7: guys who go play in other pro leagues, like in
- 27:02Speaker 7: Israel or Turkey or something like that, right?
- 27:06Speaker 2: Well, they're still pro.
- 27:09Speaker 4: No, but they specifically declared NFL, NBA, WNBA. They specifically
- 27:14Speaker 4: declared that. Oh, I see what you mean from the
- 27:16Speaker 4: college perspective.
- 27:17Speaker 2: And this kid has already been... I mean, he already....
- 27:22Speaker 4: Agreed to go back to LSU. That's the plan. Now,
- 27:26Speaker 4: does this new rule slip in after him? Or is
- 27:29Speaker 4: he now denied and he's a free agent because the
- 27:34Speaker 4: Browns raved him.
- 27:35Speaker 2: They waved him, right? Yes. So now is he just
- 27:38Speaker 2: a free agent? Yes. I'm totally confused. Think about it
- 27:42Speaker 2: this way.
- 27:43Speaker 5: The college eligibility rules are very confusing, and that's, I think,
- 27:46Speaker 5: why we're frustrated because we don't know what they are anymore.
- 27:49Speaker 5: This addition of a fifth year out of the blue
- 27:52Speaker 5: is silly to me because, like, this gentleman who chose
- 27:54Speaker 5: to go to the NFL, he opted out of that
- 27:56Speaker 5: fifth year. He made that choice. Nobody made it for him.
- 27:58Speaker 5: He made that choice. Now you're going to opt back in?
- 28:00Speaker 5: That's ridiculous. What if, like, LeBron James, who never played
- 28:04Speaker 5: college sports, if you want to make an impression, instead
- 28:08Speaker 5: of LeBron choosing Philly, what if LeBron chose Ohio State
- 28:13Speaker 5: and said, I'm going to finish my career at Ohio State,
- 28:17Speaker 5: and I'm going to bring with me some talent?
- 28:20Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 28:22Speaker 2: I mean, you laugh, but it's not out of the question.
- 28:27Speaker 2: It's hard to fathom that. And Ohio State decided.
- 28:29Speaker 4: So how much is Philly paying LeBron James? The minimum, correct?
- 28:33Speaker 6: Right.
- 28:33Speaker 4: Yeah. I forget what it was.
- 28:36Speaker 2: It's the minimum.
- 28:37Speaker 3: It's like two years, eight million.
- 28:38Speaker 4: You don't think Ohio State, a very rich athletic department,
- 28:43Speaker 4: could muster up the same money that Philadelphia is playing
- 28:46Speaker 4: LeBron James?
- 28:47Speaker 2: Sure. Dude, Ohio State's probably.
- 28:51Speaker 3: probably paying their left tackle LeBron James money.
- 28:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 28:56Speaker 2: How crazy.
- 28:57Speaker 5: If he really wanted to make an impression and end
- 28:59Speaker 5: his career with a bang, forget going to Philly. I'm
- 29:02Speaker 5: going to mix things up a little bit. I'm going
- 29:05Speaker 5: to finish in college. Most people start in college.
- 29:08Speaker 4: I'm going to finish in college.
- 29:09Speaker 2: So he's doing the old Benjamin button of sports. Okay.
- 29:11Speaker 7: Copy.
- 29:12Speaker 2: Let's be honest here.
- 29:13Speaker 3: The reason why people hate this the most part is
- 29:17Speaker 3: because they're.
- 29:19Speaker 4: Change is difficult enough.
- 29:21Speaker 2: We've all moved before. When you move to a new.
- 29:24Speaker 3: Place, it's hard. It's hard to change and uproot your
- 29:26Speaker 3: life and start over, find new friends, deal with a
- 29:29Speaker 3: new job, all that different stuff, right? The amount of
- 29:32Speaker 3: change that's happening at the rate that it's happening in
- 29:35Speaker 3: college football is a big problem. College football traditionalists are
- 29:39Speaker 3: very similar to baseball fans like hardcore baseball fans in
- 29:42Speaker 3: which like and i like my sport i've always liked
- 29:45Speaker 3: my sport don't mess with my sport and now you've
- 29:47Speaker 3: been having to deal with unlimited transfers nil money realignment
- 29:52Speaker 3: conference realignment changes to the college football playoff format.
- 29:58Speaker 4: It's a million things that have happened in like a decade.
- 30:01Speaker 4: It's a lot to ask people just go with the
- 30:03Speaker 4: flow here. And listen, you can, you can opine on
- 30:08Speaker 4: this all you want.
- 30:09Speaker 5: We all have different methods of arguing, but the bottom
- 30:13Speaker 5: line is when you make a choice, you have to
- 30:16Speaker 5: abide by that choice.
- 30:18Speaker 2: So this kid who's.
- 30:19Speaker 5: Coming back to play or wants to play college football,
- 30:23Speaker 5: He made the choice to go to the NFL. He
- 30:27Speaker 5: had an extra year remaining, correct? Everybody tells me he
- 30:31Speaker 5: still had an extra year.
- 30:31Speaker 4: He was given it. Okay.
- 30:33Speaker 2: He made the choice.
- 30:34Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 30:37Speaker 2: What about now with all this money? Let me think
- 30:40Speaker 2: about this.
- 30:41Speaker 4: What about if, can NFL teams now start drafting guys.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Who, if they go to that system, here's the problem.
- 30:49Speaker 4: Now, all of a sudden, you're drafting freshmen, sophomores, and
- 30:53Speaker 4: juniors in college, and they stay and play college football.
- 30:56Speaker 2: But you hold their rights?
- 30:58Speaker 4: You know, it's funny.
- 31:00Speaker 2: That's the NHL. That's MLB. That's what that is.
- 31:03Speaker 4: We talked a little bit about how the academic branch.
- 31:06Speaker 4: MLB's not like that, by the way.
- 31:08Speaker 3: Is it?
- 31:08Speaker 4: No.
- 31:09Speaker 3: MLB is either high school or three years in college,
- 31:11Speaker 3: unless you're Juco.
- 31:11Speaker 7: Okay.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Okay.
- 31:14Speaker 4: The academic part of this whole thing is watered down now.
- 31:19Speaker 5: Student-athlete, especially with college football, it's become a joke. But
- 31:24Speaker 5: maybe we're looking at it the wrong way. Because the
- 31:26Speaker 5: other day I brought up Lenore Sellers. And he's playing
- 31:32Speaker 5: at South Carolina. And he has one class this semester.
- 31:37Speaker 5: He's an intern at a driving range.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that.
- 31:41Speaker 4: So we said, how is this possible? I'm listening to PhD.
- 31:45Speaker 4: He's a really smart guy. He's already graduated. He's going
- 31:47Speaker 4: to graduate, right? Yeah.
- 31:48Speaker 5: I'm listening to PhD yesterday. Maybe we were just not
- 31:51Speaker 5: used to this because it's happened time in our own
- 31:53Speaker 5: Tyler Columbus. He played a fifth year and he took
- 31:58Speaker 5: one class and that's it. So it's not like this
- 32:03Speaker 5: hasn't happened before.
- 32:04Speaker 3: No, I Matt liner. That was back in the early
- 32:06Speaker 3: two thousands. His either his Heisman year, maybe his Reggie Bush's,
- 32:11Speaker 3: but he came back for another year.
- 32:12Speaker 4: He was taking, like, yoga classes. Okay, and here's the
- 32:17Speaker 4: issue I have, and not an issue. I don't care.
- 32:19Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, college decides
- 32:21Speaker 5: to– how are you officially enrolled in a college if
- 32:25Speaker 5: you're only taking one– how is that– because they always
- 32:28Speaker 5: tell you, you know, I paid for my kids to
- 32:30Speaker 5: go to college. You have to take a minimum of
- 32:32Speaker 5: 12 credit hours, or you're a part-time student.
- 32:35Speaker 4: Yeah, to be a full-time student, yeah. Exactly.
- 32:37Speaker 5: So how do they get around these rules? How are
- 32:42Speaker 5: you classified as student, student athlete, with one class?
- 32:48Speaker 4: How?
- 32:49Speaker 2: Is it different if you're a graduate already?
- 32:53Speaker 4: But you're still participating in the college game.
- 32:56Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 32:57Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 33:00Speaker 2: That's my best response to you, Vic. Hey, let me
- 33:03Speaker 2: back you up, Brett. I don't know either. Vic, I
- 33:06Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know what I don't know.
- 33:09Speaker 4: Everybody's making the point that the option for a fifth
- 33:11Speaker 4: year was not available for the class of 22.
- 33:14Speaker 5: It was granted after, so now they should. Okay, so
- 33:17Speaker 5: when does that end, Steve? Should we make that available
- 33:19Speaker 5: for the class of 21?
- 33:20Speaker 4: Now people can go.
- 33:21Speaker 2: Back for their fifth year? I want my fifth year. Yeah,
- 33:23Speaker 2: how about the.
- 33:24Speaker 4: Class of 91?
- 33:25Speaker 2: I was a class of 91. Should I get my
- 33:27Speaker 2: fifth year? Can you hoop?
- 33:29Speaker 4: How about the class of 44? Should they get their
- 33:32Speaker 4: fifth year? I don't think they're around anymore. I mean,
- 33:37Speaker 4: but you can give it to them if you want to, posthumously. Hey,
- 33:40Speaker 4: Pat the Stat, Pat Chavez, just sending Vic to your point.
- 33:44Speaker 4: According to the New York Times, there are 18 college
- 33:46Speaker 4: hoops players who will make more money than LeBron this season. Oh, totally.
- 33:51Speaker 5: So if LeBron really wanted to shake things up, that
- 33:56Speaker 5: should have been his decision.
- 33:57Speaker 2: I am taking my talents to Columbus, Ohio.
- 34:05Speaker 4: It would be.
- 34:08Speaker 4: Think about him winning a natty.
- 34:16Speaker 5: Somebody wrote in here, if you graduate college, you only
- 34:18Speaker 5: have to be enrolled in one class to participate in sports.
- 34:23Speaker 4: Think about that sentence for a second. Think about that sentence.
- 34:26Speaker 5: And again, I am not opposed to grad students playing
- 34:30Speaker 5: because it's happened for years. If you graduate college... You
- 34:34Speaker 5: only have to be enrolled in one class. So you
- 34:36Speaker 5: graduate of college.
- 34:37Speaker 4: You're done.
- 34:39Speaker 2: You graduate.
- 34:39Speaker 4: Get out. You're done.
- 34:41Speaker 6: No, man.
- 34:41Speaker 2: You got to play some football, bro. SEC football. It
- 34:45Speaker 2: just means more. But the whole term, yeah, you graduate
- 34:49Speaker 2: of college. Wasn't the point to graduate college? Well, when
- 34:51Speaker 2: the whole season is over, you'll be out of school.
- 34:53Speaker 4: Wait, hold on. Hold on.
- 34:54Speaker 2: When you go to college, is the point of college
- 34:57Speaker 2: to graduate or to linger?
- 34:59Speaker 4: What's the point?
- 34:59Speaker 2: Chicks, bro. Chicks, bro. Um, we asked Chris Farley and Tommy.
- 35:05Speaker 3: Boy to, to go back to what correct and Lindahl
- 35:07Speaker 3: we're talking about. I do think it's a, it's a
- 35:09Speaker 3: decent point though. Like it's an interesting one. You're the
- 35:12Speaker 3: minor league system anyway, just be the minor league, but
- 35:17Speaker 3: there'd be a million more hoops. You have to jump
- 35:19Speaker 3: through to actually make that official. Now, three Oh three
- 35:22Speaker 3: five Oh four Oh nine, two five shot. Mazda text
- 35:25Speaker 3: line one price, one person, one hour, a lot more
- 35:27Speaker 3: to get to back after this.
- 35:28Speaker 4: All right.
- 35:29Speaker 3: Um, I was flipping through the channels yesterday. Have you
- 35:32Speaker 3: guys watched? And I'll admit, I hate watch this. I
- 35:37Speaker 3: don't know why I hated it.
- 35:38Speaker 2: I felt old.
- 35:39Speaker 3: I felt very, uh, boomer when I was watching and
- 35:43Speaker 3: the emotions that came over me.
- 35:45Speaker 4: Okay, boomer.
- 35:46Speaker 3: I was flipping through the channels and on TNT last
- 35:48Speaker 3: night they had that thing, Dunk Man?
- 35:50Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Shaq's deal.
- 35:54Speaker 4: I hated it. What is it?
- 35:55Speaker 3: It's like a dunk contest with a whole bunch of
- 35:57Speaker 3: random dudes. Like, Mac McClung was in there, but other
- 36:00Speaker 3: guys I didn't hear of. And I'm trying to figure out,
- 36:09Speaker 3: what is that? Like, who's that for? That whole thing.
- 36:14Speaker 3: I've said before, I hated when Mac McClung won the
- 36:17Speaker 3: dunk contest. Was it two or three years in a row? Like,
- 36:21Speaker 3: you're just going to look through dunk contest champions and
- 36:23Speaker 3: you're going to see Dr. J, Michael Jordan, and Mac McClung.
- 36:26Speaker 4: It'd just feel really weird to me. Really weird.
- 36:29Speaker 2: Well, there comes a time.
- 36:33Speaker 4: You don't have to call yourself Boomer or feel Boomer.
- 36:37Speaker 4: There comes a time in the sporting world where you
- 36:41Speaker 4: just feel oversaturated with crap competition. Yeah, maybe that's it.
- 36:45Speaker 2: It's just, you... I was watching the Little League World
- 36:49Speaker 2: Series yesterday, and I've been watching it.
- 36:51Speaker 4: Hey, easy.
- 36:52Speaker 2: You just said crap competition. Hang on a second.
- 36:53Speaker 4: Little League kids.
- 36:55Speaker 2: I know, but Mendoza, what's her name? Jessica Mendoza? Yes.
- 37:02Speaker 4: She's excellent.
- 37:02Speaker 2: I like her a lot.
- 37:03Speaker 4: No, she's really good, but she's interviewing this kid like
- 37:05Speaker 4: he's Aaron Judge or something.
- 37:08Speaker 2: And I'm like, these are just kids.
- 37:10Speaker 4: And the guys are talking like, well, you know, does
- 37:13Speaker 4: Japan have enough bullpen, enough pitching to get.
- 37:16Speaker 2: To the end of this game when they got the lead?
- 37:18Speaker 4: Are we really doing this crap? Really analyzing the 10-year-old bullpen? Yeah,
- 37:23Speaker 4: does Japan have enough? The kid at the plate, I
- 37:26Speaker 4: swear to God, it said four foot. The kid's 11
- 37:29Speaker 4: years old. He's four foot eight, 66 pounds. Do they
- 37:34Speaker 4: have the bullpen?
- 37:35Speaker 2: Do they have the bullpen to go the distance and
- 37:38Speaker 2: hold off Mexico? I'm like. I felt dirty watching that crap.
- 37:43Speaker 4: And so this Dunkman thing, and they have the three
- 37:47Speaker 4: ice games. I watched a little bit of that. That's
- 37:49Speaker 4: the three-on-three hockey competition. Ray Bork is coaching in it
- 37:53Speaker 4: and all this kind of stuff. But I'm like, man,
- 37:55Speaker 4: sometimes I'm just oversaturated with stuff, and just because I
- 37:58Speaker 4: don't like it or don't want to watch it doesn't
- 38:00Speaker 4: mean I'm a boomer or an a-hole. All right, the
- 38:02Speaker 4: point he's trying to make with this Dunkman competition, let's
- 38:06Speaker 4: just get to the point.
- 38:07Speaker 2: There was a dunk.
- 38:09Speaker 4: That took place last.
- 38:11Speaker 5: Night by a gentleman, his name is Cam Hazard, that
- 38:15Speaker 5: looked a lot like the dunk Aaron Gordon put up
- 38:19Speaker 5: there years ago in that classic matchup versus Zach Levine,
- 38:24Speaker 5: the one where Aaron Gordon finished second, should.
- 38:26Speaker 4: Have won it. Yeah. So this Cam Hazard goes up
- 38:29Speaker 4: and casually pulls an Aaron Gordon.
- 38:32Speaker 2: Cam Hazard's white. No, that's not my beef.
- 38:36Speaker 4: It's not a beef. I will say, it's weird.
- 38:39Speaker 2: It's weird to see. Well, not only, how tall is he?
- 38:43Speaker 2: Six foot. That's the thing that gets me. Are you
- 38:46Speaker 2: sure Cam Hazard is six foot?
- 38:47Speaker 4: I think he is. No.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Look up his height. Six two. Six two.
- 38:51Speaker 4: He's six foot two.
- 38:54Speaker 2: He's got a 51-inch vert, though.
- 38:55Speaker 5: And he did the Aaron Gordon.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Okay, that's pretty impressive, but I've already seen that dog.
- 39:02Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no.
- 39:02Speaker 3: Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
- 39:04Speaker 2: Take your wristband and sit this one out. Sit this
- 39:06Speaker 2: one out.
- 39:07Speaker 7: No, no.
- 39:08Speaker 5: Pretty impressive doesn't describe that. I'm going to repeat myself.
- 39:13Speaker 5: He's a white 6'2 man who did that. Do you
- 39:18Speaker 5: understand how ridiculous that feat of athleticism is?
- 39:21Speaker 2: What I'm more getting at, I think, is.
- 39:26Speaker 3: I don't see the appeal in watching people I don't
- 39:29Speaker 3: know dunk. In the same way, if I was flipping
- 39:32Speaker 3: through the channels on ESPN2, there was a home run derby.
- 39:36Speaker 3: But it was just some guy named George. A bunch
- 39:41Speaker 3: of AA guys. I'm just like, I'm not interested in that.
- 39:44Speaker 3: I like the home run derby because I get to
- 39:46Speaker 3: see Shohei hit bombs.
- 39:48Speaker 2: You want my attention?
- 39:51Speaker 4: Home run derby with major leaguers, but they get to
- 39:54Speaker 4: use aluminum bats. Now you've got my attention.
- 39:57Speaker 2: Didn't they do this back in the day? They will
- 39:59Speaker 2: fly it out of the stadium.
- 40:02Speaker 4: Hold on a second. I've got to jump on this.
- 40:04Speaker 5: Because you don't know who a Cam Hazard is, you're
- 40:08Speaker 5: not impressed by that athletic feat?
- 40:10Speaker 4: It's not that I'm not impressed.
- 40:11Speaker 3: I'm not interested in it. Because I don't know who
- 40:14Speaker 3: it is.
- 40:15Speaker 4: It's impressive.
- 40:16Speaker 6: 6'3.
- 40:16Speaker 2: Can you dunk?
- 40:20Speaker 4: I don't even know if I can anymore. Used to
- 40:22Speaker 4: barely be able to.
- 40:24Speaker 5: Describe to the people who can't see this, describe to
- 40:28Speaker 5: the people how a 6'2 man, shorter than you, what
- 40:31Speaker 5: he did.
- 40:33Speaker 3: He jumped, put the ball underneath his hammies.
- 40:38Speaker 2: Yeah, so he had his legs parallel to the ground. Yes.
- 40:42Speaker 2: He brought his legs up like a tabletop.
- 40:45Speaker 3: And did almost hit his head on the rim. It
- 40:46Speaker 3: looked a lot like Aaron Gordon's.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Dunk, yes.
- 40:49Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon is 6'8.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Yeah. This man is 6'2. Never said it wasn't impressive. Again,
- 40:55Speaker 2: I want to repeat. Aaron Gordon is 6'8.
- 40:58Speaker 5: And I thought the dunk that Aaron Gordon had in
- 41:01Speaker 5: that dunk contest was the most remarkable dunk I'd ever seen.
- 41:04Speaker 4: But would you watch the TV show? I'm not saying
- 41:07Speaker 4: I'd watch a TV show. This is not an entertainment thing.
- 41:09Speaker 4: It's an athletic feat thing to me. What this guy
- 41:12Speaker 4: did athletically is absolutely bonkers.
- 41:15Speaker 2: We're showing it right now. He looks like an account.
- 41:17Speaker 2: For those of you watching on Twitch.
- 41:21Speaker 5: That is, I mean, do you understand the height and
- 41:25Speaker 5: the levitation that's necessary to pull that off at six
- 41:29Speaker 5: foot two inches tall?
- 41:32Speaker 2: That's fine, Vic. That's fine. But don't tell me I
- 41:34Speaker 2: have to like it. I'm not saying you have to
- 41:36Speaker 2: like it. Yes, you are saying I have to like it.
- 41:38Speaker 2: Forget the competition. This isn't about the competition.
- 41:41Speaker 4: It is about that athletic feat right there.
- 41:44Speaker 5: And you know where I draw the line? Here's my
- 41:47Speaker 5: problem with stuff like this. And this is where being
- 41:50Speaker 5: old sucks and being taken advantage of sucks. I have
- 41:54Speaker 5: to question when I look at something like this, and
- 41:56Speaker 5: I did last night, I said, is this AI?
- 41:58Speaker 4: That was the.
- 41:59Speaker 2: First thing that came to mind. Stop for a second, though.
- 42:02Speaker 2: The first thing that came to my mind wasn't, wow,
- 42:04Speaker 2: that's cool. It was, all right, did I just get got?
- 42:08Speaker 2: Is this AI?
- 42:09Speaker 3: Okay, hang on, hang on. This is the point that
- 42:11Speaker 3: I was making. There was a syndicated, the 1960 Home
- 42:17Speaker 3: Run Derby television show. That was not the Home Run Derby, but.
- 42:22Speaker 2: It was a show. They used to replay that on ESPN.
- 42:25Speaker 4: Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle and Hank Aaron. Like that,
- 42:28Speaker 4: I'm into. That's the guys I want to see. I
- 42:30Speaker 4: want to see those guys do it.
- 42:31Speaker 2: Brett, it was like this, too. It was all black
- 42:33Speaker 2: and white. It was like this. Because they used to
- 42:35Speaker 2: put on ESPN, Vic, like what? Like midnight or something?
- 42:38Speaker 2: Or early in the morning? It'd be like this. And
- 42:42Speaker 2: we're here today now with Mickey Mantle.
- 42:43Speaker 4: Hello, Mick. Looks like you're going to put a lot
- 42:47Speaker 4: of swings out there.
- 42:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to hit the ball.
- 42:49Speaker 4: I think I would love to see that. Well, it
- 42:51Speaker 4: was great. I mean, two dudes would go head-to-head. It
- 42:55Speaker 4: was like a half-hour-long TV show.
- 42:57Speaker 3: But the difference is, it's Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, and
- 43:00Speaker 3: Hank Aaron.
- 43:01Speaker 6: Right.
- 43:01Speaker 3: Like, if you gave me Dunk Man, and it was
- 43:03Speaker 3: Zach Levine and Aaron Gordon again, I'm probably watching the show.
- 43:06Speaker 2: But you know the old-school announcers, right?
- 43:08Speaker 3: But Harvey Buzzard, or whatever his name is, Harry Styles,
- 43:12Speaker 3: whatever that guy was.
- 43:13Speaker 2: Cam Hazard? I'm going to see Jason Richardson tomorrow. Lance Cockdale.
- 43:17Speaker 2: I'm going to see Jason Richardson.
- 43:20Speaker 4: Who is the newest member of our Altitude team and
- 43:22Speaker 4: happens to be a two-time dunk contest winner. NBA dunk contest.
- 43:28Speaker 4: And he put some ferocious dunks out there. Yes, he did.
- 43:31Speaker 2: I'm going to ask Cam about this Cam Hazard dunk. Okay, Vicky,
- 43:35Speaker 2: you're impressed.
- 43:35Speaker 4: Good for you.
- 43:36Speaker 3: But he's going to say it's awesome. And I would
- 43:38Speaker 3: say that dunk is awesome.
- 43:40Speaker 2: You know what he told me?
- 43:41Speaker 4: He said, because I asked him about this Dunkman League,
- 43:44Speaker 4: and I don't watch it either.
- 43:45Speaker 2: I'm disinterested. That does nothing for me. I would never
- 43:47Speaker 2: tune into that.
- 43:48Speaker 4: It's not entertaining to me. So you agree with me?
- 43:50Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree with you on that.
- 43:53Speaker 4: But the dunk, this specific dunk, is something I've never
- 43:56Speaker 4: seen out of a 6'2 man before. And I asked him,
- 43:59Speaker 4: I go, how is this happening? How are there so
- 44:02Speaker 4: many dunks now? that are out doing the NBA dunks.
- 44:05Speaker 4: And he said, it's pretty simple, really.
- 44:07Speaker 2: When I did the dunk contest, I practiced for a day.
- 44:11Speaker 4: These guys doing these dunk bank competitions, they're practicing all year.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 44:16Speaker 4: They're literally in gym, in the gym, practicing their dunks.
- 44:22Speaker 4: He said the dunks that he performed at the dunk contest,
- 44:24Speaker 4: he practiced the day before. Isn't that all you need?
- 44:31Speaker 3: Wait, how is Mac McClung pulling a car out to
- 44:34Speaker 3: the middle of a basketball court to practice those dunks
- 44:36Speaker 3: over the course of a year. Anyway, all of that
- 44:40Speaker 3: to say, I'm old now, I think. The qualifier from
- 44:46Speaker 3: this hour is Brandon Hawk.
- 44:49Speaker 2: Congratulations, Brandon.
- 44:50Speaker 3: You are qualified to participate in that rock, paper, scissor contest.
- 44:54Speaker 2: Try and get you in the building.
- 44:56Speaker 3: Try and get you in the building at Arrowhead.
- 45:00Speaker 2: That was unexpected. I haven't heard Hawk 2 in a
- 45:04Speaker 2: long time. What happened? Brandon Hawk.
- 45:07Speaker 4: I don't need to know what happened to that girl.
- 45:09Speaker 4: Who cares?
- 45:10Speaker 2: She go.
- 45:13Speaker 4: She go.
- 45:14Speaker 7: 303.
- 45:14Speaker 2: Right away.
- 45:14Speaker 7: 5040925.
- 45:14Speaker 3: I think that's the proper penalty, actually, for going viral
- 45:18Speaker 3: off of a clip like that and starting your own Bitcoin.
- 45:21Speaker 4: All right, back after this.