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Countdown to Kickoff | Fred Taylor on Jaguars Remembering Who They Are vs. Texans in Week 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Time for our weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor, co host of the Pivot podcast
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  Speaker 1: as well. You can tell by his hat and his shirt.
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  Speaker 1: It's great to see you friend always.
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  Speaker 2: Hey man, it's always good to see you two JP
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  Speaker 2: man been running around the world. Man, still football, you know, football, football, football,
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  Speaker 2: but everything else is life. So I just needed to
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  Speaker 2: take a break, much like this team needed to take
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  Speaker 2: a break. So hopefully it serves all of us well.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, congrats on the semi finalist
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  Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame again. Getting to that level
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  Speaker 1: and we got to get you to that next level
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  Speaker 1: again and then get you to the to the final level.
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  Speaker 1: The final Boss still needs to be beaten at some point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Final Boss is still in play. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I can't control the preliminaries. But once I get there, man,
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  Speaker 2: it'll be all she wrote. So I'll be ready. Just know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready. You know when that time come, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: it'll be. It'll be memorable for everyone involved. So thankful,
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  Speaker 2: grateful to have made semi finalists again this year. Sit
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  Speaker 2: back and kind of wait and see what happens on
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  Speaker 2: the next step. Then you go, you know, you go
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  Speaker 2: from there. So it's one step at a time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready for the party in Canton. Whenever it goes down.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to be there because I know it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be an all timer.
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  Speaker 3: Fred.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that later, of course. That sure, let's
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  Speaker 1: get to this Jaguars team coming off the bye week.
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  Speaker 1: They're two and nine, they're not mathematically eliminated, so there's
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  Speaker 1: some kind of shred of something. But the last time
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  Speaker 1: we saw them play football, fread, it was the worst
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  Speaker 1: loss in Jaguars history. So how do you regroup on
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  Speaker 1: a bye week with all that going on?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you hope that everyone still has a sense
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  Speaker 2: of urgency. You hope that they're all being accountable and
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  Speaker 2: have not thrown in the towel, you know, to a man,
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  Speaker 2: to each other, as teammates and staff, et cetera. You
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  Speaker 2: want to make sure that there's still a sense of urgency.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Guys have rehab, Guys are nursing injuries, Guys are trying
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  Speaker 2: to get out there and play. They're playing for you know,
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  Speaker 2: contracts or whatever it might be. You want to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that everybody's still on the same page, because the
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  Speaker 2: last time we saw them. It seemed that no one
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  Speaker 2: even read the book. Nevertheless being on the same page.
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  Speaker 2: So here's a chance to have a fresh reset. They
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  Speaker 2: realized that they have six more in front of them,
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  Speaker 2: with an opportunity to try and go eight.
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  Speaker 3: To nine and see how the chips fall.
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  Speaker 2: But it starts with you know, divisional opponent in Houston,
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  Speaker 2: a team that they played well the first time out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, as I think I recall it, had a
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  Speaker 2: few overthrows that game, and even late they had an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity late to sort of put it away. Didn't go
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  Speaker 2: into the four minute offense, didn't do well. Texans got
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  Speaker 2: the ball, went score, put the game away. But very
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  Speaker 2: competitive matchup, still a very competitive group. So they have
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  Speaker 2: to make sure they remember who they are. You know,
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  Speaker 2: no one we can't remind them. They have to know
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  Speaker 2: who they are.
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  Speaker 1: Bret Taylor with us. Yet in that game, Anico Collins
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  Speaker 1: went off with big numbers. They didn't have Joe Mixon
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  Speaker 1: that day. They've got Joe Mixon now. And the Shaguars
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  Speaker 1: defense has struggled in most areas. Let's be honest, they're
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  Speaker 1: lasting total defense, they're near the bottom and every other metric.
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  Speaker 1: But if they can't stop the run and it sets
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  Speaker 1: up everything else. And they haven't been able to consistently
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  Speaker 1: do that this year. So how do you slow down
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  Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. I've asked you this with all these different
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  Speaker 1: running backs this year. Yeah, and they haven't really been
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  Speaker 1: able to do it lately.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Joe, Joe is he's the beast. He's a
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  Speaker 3: big boy man that twenty eight.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people text me and say he is
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  Speaker 2: spinning the image of you, Freddy T. And I heard
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  Speaker 2: this from way back in the day. One of our
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  Speaker 2: scouts in the building, Cub Triggers. Cub with Kubby would
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  Speaker 2: tell me, like that kid in since he reminds me
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  Speaker 2: of you. But now he's with the Texans and big, strong, fast,
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  Speaker 2: can run, with power, shifty, he can do it all.
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  Speaker 2: And he's gonna take some pressure off of CJ who
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  Speaker 2: hasn't had the best season.
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  Speaker 3: Or hasn't had the season as he had a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: So they want to run. Give him the ball.
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  Speaker 2: He's averaging four point to a whip even in the
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  Speaker 2: time that he's been out. How do you stop him?
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  Speaker 2: You have to just want to store him down. You
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  Speaker 2: hit him early. It's doable. They don't have the greatest
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  Speaker 2: offensive line, so it's doable. They have to just maintain
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  Speaker 2: their defensive integrity gap space and as long as they're
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  Speaker 2: doing that, and the hardest thing in football, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: not playing quarterback. Tackling is the hardest thing in football.
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  Speaker 2: They got to tackle. If they tackle play gap integrity,
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  Speaker 2: they should be fine. And you mentioned they didn't have
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  Speaker 2: Joe Mixon the first game. They don't have Stephan d
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  Speaker 2: this game, right, So it's kind of like for me,
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  Speaker 2: it's almost you know, pick your poison. It's a wash,
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  Speaker 2: but you do have to stop to run first and
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  Speaker 2: find a way to sort of put a little pressure
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  Speaker 2: on Strout.
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  Speaker 3: You can walk away with a win.
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  Speaker 1: Bred Taylor with us on the other side, there's question
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  Speaker 1: marks this week around the quarterback position. Trevor Lawrence practiced
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  Speaker 1: on Monday. We'll see how the rest of the week
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  Speaker 1: is gone. But you know, and then if he doesn't go,
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  Speaker 1: then mac Jones is going. We've seen how that's gone
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. On offense, you know, Doug
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  Speaker 1: Peterson talked this week. He didn't give a lot in
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  Speaker 1: his Monday press conference about the changes they've made, but
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  Speaker 1: he mentioned the words rhythm and tempo. So to me,
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  Speaker 1: that's a red light. Okay, they might speed it up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit on offense, What does that even mean?
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  Speaker 1: How do you speed up an offense in week thirteen, twelve,
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  Speaker 1: whatever week?
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  Speaker 2: You you know, you come out there and you try
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  Speaker 2: your best to.
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  Speaker 3: Get some rhythm. I guess drive starters.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you want to come out first down, You
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  Speaker 2: want to be efficient short yards, quick, quick passes, just
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  Speaker 2: to get some rhythm, get some flow, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: not so much take shots.
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  Speaker 3: But if I've always thought that's what.
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  Speaker 2: They were attempting to do, you know, maybe they're going
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  Speaker 2: to play without a huddle. You know, in that way
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  Speaker 2: they can put a little pressure on the posing defense
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  Speaker 2: just to hurry and get their play calls in. And
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you can manipulate the defenses simply by not being
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  Speaker 2: in a huddle, because a lot of times their go
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  Speaker 2: to signal is their safe defense. Most teams safe defenses
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  Speaker 2: some form of cover too, And if you can get
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  Speaker 2: them into and run the ball and get five six
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  Speaker 2: a wop and stay in that sort of mindset, then
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  Speaker 2: you're playing at a faster tempo, at a better rhythm.
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully he's speaking to that a little bit, But again,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what's at stake. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I know what's at stake, but I don't know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what's on the plate for them. But I'm interested to
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  Speaker 2: see exactly what he meant.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Fred, We've got six games to go and
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  Speaker 1: they're not mathematically eliminated. So there is a chance if
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  Speaker 1: they run the table and other teams above them do not,
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  Speaker 1: that they're kind of in this thing. But they're not
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  Speaker 1: in it right now, so that is that realistic? At
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  Speaker 1: what point do you stop buying that in the locker room?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you hopefully they don't stop buying it right exactly.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they have to take it one game at
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  Speaker 3: a time.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the guys that were on the team
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago when they made that run,
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  Speaker 2: they know what it feels like. And you know, here
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  Speaker 2: it also the guys that were on a team of
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  Speaker 2: year ago know what it feels like, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: you're going the other way, which is what they're doing now.
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  Speaker 2: So just just win one. That'll create a little spark
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully that spark turns into a flame as they
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  Speaker 2: continue to go throughout this season.
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  Speaker 3: So you got to win one.
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  Speaker 2: And it starts with a seven and five Houston Texans team,
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  Speaker 2: and you know you just got to go out there
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  Speaker 2: and put it together. Get after CJ. From a defensive standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: stop Joe Mixing. As we mentioned offensively, just do something,
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  Speaker 2: do something. I mean, I don't care what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Do something protective football, but do something. Get the ball
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  Speaker 2: to the number seven. He has to have some touches.
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  Speaker 2: I can say that much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a good strategy. I know you're
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  Speaker 1: a tremendous athlete, a machine of sorts, even still so
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  Speaker 1: long retired from the game, Fred, But this is a
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  Speaker 1: great cheap week Thanksgiving. What is your go to Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: food and favorite? And how much will you eat?
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  Speaker 3: You know what? I try to balance it out, JP.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I requested this week just a cornish hen
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  Speaker 2: where I like to. I've started frying the little cornish
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  Speaker 2: hen that little things. It's pretty good. So I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a huge, a big big Turkey guy. Turkey, the trip
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  Speaker 2: to fan and all of that, it just makes me
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  Speaker 2: tired and sleep and you know it messes up the
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  Speaker 2: football games on Thanksgiving. So I prefer cornish hen all
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  Speaker 2: to myself. A little stuffing, some cranberry dressing on the side.
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  Speaker 2: What else, Mac and cheese. Gotta have my mac and cheese.
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  Speaker 2: That's it for me. I mean, well, its color greens.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta have some badgue somewhere. So that's it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: That's The British trips must be wearing off on you.
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  Speaker 1: With a Cornish hen.
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  Speaker 2: Answer, I must say, I'm breaking the American tradition. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, where all these turkeys come from anyway, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, where we get all these turkeys from to
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  Speaker 2: feed the whole entire country on Thanksgiving. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm crazy sometimes day people, I like that Cornish hand
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  Speaker 2: your flavor. You do it right, you know, it can
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  Speaker 2: come out pretty good. Sometimes we bake it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes we fry it. So I'm looking forward to it. Well,
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  Speaker 2: people have my protein.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta have it. You gotta have it for gains
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  Speaker 1: for sure. Fred A great week, Happy Thanksgiving to you
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  Speaker 1: and the family.
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  Speaker 3: Man. Sure, my brother, I'll see you