Latest / Random Heathen Ramblings / Random Heathen Ramblings: S6, EP22 - The Divine Origins Of The Germanic Peoples
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- 2:09episode lined up. For us today, I was.
- 2:12Just thinking about where we've come from, where the Germanic
- 2:19people have come from the Germans, at least according to
- 2:24the, you know, mythology, according to lore.
- 2:28And I wanted to talk about that, you know, so that's what we're
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- 6:11So let's talk about this. You know the origins of the
- 6:17Germanic peoples and you know, wouldn't you know it, trying to
- 6:22scroll around and do things and my mouse died.
- 6:25Go figure. Now I got to.
- 6:27Use the old touch pad. Screen OK, but anywho the the
- 6:30origins of the Germanic people according to the mythologies,
- 6:34according to lore. Now, if I were to ask, most
- 6:36heathens nowadays, you know. Where did?
- 6:40Where did? Mankind, you know, come from
- 6:46where? Where did mankind start?
- 6:50You know, what is our origin story, as it were?
- 6:53I think most heathens. Will will refer.
- 6:57To the Scandinavian creation myth where you know Ode and
- 7:02villain Bay are are walking the beach and then there's you know
- 7:05driftwood and they. Or or they're, you know, pieces
- 7:07of ash pieces. Of almond and.
- 7:09They out of those. You know, out of.
- 7:13Those bits. Of timber, each of those.
- 7:19God figures. Impart or imbue into that.
- 7:26Piece of wood or those pieces of wood?
- 7:29Various. Things that then.
- 7:31Give those pieces of wood life. Form mind you know all the
- 7:39things that OSC and Embla or ash and Elm in the in the
- 7:43Scandinavian, in the Norse myths, in the in the creation
- 7:47story, that is where mankind originated from is is through.
- 7:50Those. Efforts of Odin and his
- 7:53brothers. But now what if I were to ask?
- 7:57You What about that before that? Or what about the in, on on, on
- 8:02the continent? Maybe not necessarily.
- 8:04Yeah, before that. Before.
- 8:05Those myths came into being like, where did where did it
- 8:07originally start? Where did?
- 8:09Where did? The Germanic peoples come from,
- 8:12because you got to think like the the people in in
- 8:14Scandinavia, they are Nordic, they are Scandinavian of course,
- 8:18right? They also they.
- 8:20Fall under the. Category of of.
- 8:22Of a Germanic heritage. Germanic lineage.
- 8:28So I don't know of too many heathens that I, at least not
- 8:31that I've encountered who know where the Germanic peoples
- 8:38started from, where they came from, how they originated.
- 8:42So I wanted to talk about that today and give you some some
- 8:45education, as it were. So this probably won't be a very
- 8:49long show for you guys and gals out there.
- 8:51But hopefully it'll be worth. Your time and worth your.
- 8:56Yeah, your your time to to learn.
- 9:00So I'm going to be talking about a specific figure in the one of
- 9:06the primary sources that we know of that.
- 9:08That give us a. Background of, of what and
- 9:10where? The dramatic.
- 9:11People's you know how they started, where they started.
- 9:15There's not a lot of clues, OK, there's not a lot of
- 9:17information, but there is some things and, and then from those
- 9:21small kind of bread crumbs or from those small little hints or
- 9:24some from those small tidbits where we can come up.
- 9:28With. What we know.
- 9:31So you've you've. Probably heard me talk many
- 9:35times about the Roman Pagan, the Roman historian Tacitus or
- 9:40Tacitus I guess, depending on who you ask and and and and what
- 9:44pronunciation you want to put to his name.
- 9:47But he is considered a primary source for understanding the the
- 9:55ways and the customs of the Germanic.
- 9:57Peoples well before. The migration period, at least a
- 10:03good, a good, a good couple of centuries.
- 10:07I think probably, you know, before, before that Viking age
- 10:14or, or, or when we started reading or hearing about the,
- 10:16the, the, the Norse myths. So you know around AD 100 or 100
- 10:21of the common air 98 is when. Tacitus writes his.
- 10:25Infamous Germania. So according to that source and
- 10:31only this source, Acidus. Recalls or.
- 10:36Or or mentions the name. Of a God who is.
- 10:41Earth born and the name of this God.
- 10:45Is twisto. Also sometimes and some.
- 10:49Other sources is Twisco TUISCO but Twisto.
- 10:55Is the earth born God that is mentioned by Tacitus and and why
- 11:02he mentions this? Figure is that there are.
- 11:05Traditional songs that the German people, the Germanic
- 11:09peoples of the Germanic tribes would sing about him.
- 11:13So I'm going to just recite the line that is.
- 11:16That that that Tacitus writes about this.
- 11:18In his Germania for you, you can find this, you know, online if
- 11:22you have a copy of it, you can of course read it, but it's in
- 11:25Germania and it says that in the traditional songs which form
- 11:31their only. Record of the past the.
- 11:34Germans celebrate an earth born God called Twisto.
- 11:39His son Manus is supposed to be The Fountainhead of their race,
- 11:44and himself to have begotten three sons who gave their names
- 11:48to. Three groups of tribes, the.
- 11:52Ingevones nearest the sea, the Erminones in the interior, and
- 11:57the Estevones who. Comprise all the rest some.
- 12:03Authorities with the freedom of conjecture permitted by remote.
- 12:06Antiquity assert that Twisto had.
- 12:08More numerous descendants and mentioned more tribal.
- 12:12Groups such as Marsi. Gambrivi, Sweebie and Vandali,
- 12:18names which they affirm. To be both.
- 12:21Genuine and ancient. So Twisto again, is is his.
- 12:29His name is only mentioned once, or is only mentioned or only
- 12:33appear is. You know, it only appears in in
- 12:35Tacitus's Germania, and that's about it.
- 12:40That all that that that he says is that there.
- 12:43Are traditional songs which formed.
- 12:46Their the record of their past. Of the of the Germanic people's
- 12:49past. So Twisto is the progenitor.
- 12:53Gives. Birth or begets the his son
- 12:56manus and then manus. Is the sort of.
- 13:02The one. Who begets three other?
- 13:07Sons which start. The three groups of tribes.
- 13:11Now I'm just going to briefly go into.
- 13:14What those, what those where and what those tribes?
- 13:19Are so the first one is mentioned is the the the
- 13:22ingevones. So the ingevones comprised.
- 13:26A. A.
- 13:26A cultural group. Of of Germanic peoples that were
- 13:29living in the northern. Area of.
- 13:32You know, along the North Sea, this would make up.
- 13:35Coastal areas such as. Yutland, Holstein, Holstein and
- 13:39Lower Saxony. So the tribes of that.
- 13:43Area of the country that make up who the Ingivons were.
- 13:48That group of tribes would. Have included such tribes as the
- 13:52Angles, the Saxons, the Chausi and the utes, the second group,
- 14:02the Irmenons or the Irmenons. Are they were largely.
- 14:13Settling in like the, the, the. Elbe watershed region closer to.
- 14:18Like or expanding rather into. Like the areas that were?
- 14:22Now Bavaria, Swabia, Bohemia, the the most notable group of
- 14:31the most notable tribe that make up the the the Airmenones would
- 14:34be the Swaby, which it that themselves contain many
- 14:38different tribal groups, but the Imenon Irmenons.
- 14:41Also included the chati SO. One of the greatest like stories
- 14:48of, you know, one of the. Heroes of of of old.
- 14:52Germanic tribes would be would be Herman.
- 14:55Or what would? His, his, his, his Roman name
- 14:57would be Arminius. So if you want to learn more
- 15:01about that, he was, he was of the Chati, you know.
- 15:07So that's the second group, the ermenones and then the
- 15:11Estevones. They were a group.
- 15:14Of tribes that were living near the banks of the Rhine during
- 15:22like you know the the when when the Roman Empire was was
- 15:26commonly sharing cultures and and orange origin so they they
- 15:30were. The the, the, the, the.
- 15:35The North Sea. Coastal areas, they were like.
- 15:42Neighbors to that section of the world.
- 15:44So they were probably probably the.
- 15:49Or the the like the ancestors of the, like the Franks.
- 15:53And you know what became the the the Dutch.
- 15:58And so forth. So the the the.
- 16:00Origins of the Germanic people in this part of the world again
- 16:05we're starting with twisto, who then bigot a son, manus, who
- 16:10begets three sons which. Starts the subgroups of of the
- 16:15various tribes. That that consist or that make
- 16:17up that that area of the world. Now, what's interesting is that
- 16:23some because Twisto's name is only mentioned, you know, in in
- 16:28Germania. It it only appears in Germania.
- 16:30There is not a lot of clear evidence or or strong evidence
- 16:39that. Supports who this figure is.
- 16:42In in. Later sources or who it.
- 16:43Could be in later sources. Now there are some scholars who.
- 16:47Have compared twisto to the. Norse figure or the giant emir.
- 16:56You know that sort of primordial begetter beginner of things.
- 17:01Now others, one of which who is Jacob Grimm, tried to make.
- 17:10Twisto out to be two. Or T or later on.
- 17:13Tier, so T was slash tier. One of the one of another great
- 17:23source and I'm going to probably get into a little bit more of of
- 17:26this in in. Just a moment, but.
- 17:28Another great source who I've. Talked about before HR Ellis.
- 17:31Davidson. Who wrote the Road to?
- 17:34Hell, talking about the conceptual.
- 17:37World view of. Of death in the afterlife among
- 17:40the Norse, so you know. Miss Davidson maintains that the
- 17:45name Twisto is related to an old Swedish.
- 17:47Word which is tvistra. Which means separate.
- 17:54There is also others who. Have.
- 18:00Linked. This name to be something.
- 18:02Closer to like 2. You know, kind of like.
- 18:06Meaning twin or something. So etymologically, and this is
- 18:11where it gets kind of interesting, the whole thing
- 18:15about, you know, 2 or twin this, this, this could be very
- 18:19possible because of a commonly seen a root of in Proto
- 18:27Germanic. The root.
- 18:29Word TWI, which means to and it's.
- 18:33Derivative twis which is. Twice, which where we, you know,
- 18:36get our word. Twice, twice or or doubled.
- 18:38You know, thus giving Twisto that that chord meaning of 2
- 18:44twin, you know, double that sort of thing.
- 18:50The other I mentioned earlier on like the other variant of
- 18:53Twisto's name which. With a with AC.
- 18:55So twisk Twisco. Is is seen and.
- 19:01There is. There is a.
- 19:02Proposed etymology for this variant, which reconstructs A
- 19:07proto Germanic word tiwisco, and it's connected with the proto
- 19:14Germanic tivas. Again the old proto Germanic
- 19:20name of of what became to or later on in the Norse in
- 19:23Scandinavia tier, you know. So you could you could.
- 19:29Almost. Maybe interpret to Twisco if
- 19:35you're looking at Twisco with AC instead of.
- 19:37Twisco with AT So Twisco. As it being this sort of meaning
- 19:42like again. Finding it's it's reconstructed
- 19:46Twisco. And T was as meaning like the
- 19:48son of tear. Again a a sort.
- 19:53Of interpretation that would make Twisco the son of the proto
- 19:58Indo European sky God. You know Deus, which we also
- 20:02know is. A route for where Tear?
- 20:06Later comes from is. Is is that old?
- 20:08Proto Indo European. Deus, you know so the.
- 20:11So the so the result. Of Deus and Inerthus.
- 20:15Or Deus and an earth goddess. Now some interesting other, you
- 20:23know, like etymological or linguistic connections I
- 20:29mentioned before. You know that there's been some
- 20:32proposed ideas with between the 1st century figure of Twisto
- 20:37being? The later.
- 20:40Primeval or primordial being Emir, you know that that appears
- 20:44in later Norse mythology. So, you know, we're talking, you
- 20:47know, 12 centuries later and you know, the reason for that again
- 20:54being close etymological similarities.
- 21:00One such scholar, which I'll mention down below, is Meyer.
- 21:06I get the first name, but Meyer is.
- 21:08Is says that. They're the connection is so
- 21:10strong that you know it's considered.
- 21:14That these two are. Identical.
- 21:15It's. It's almost.
- 21:16Hard to to separate. Them entirely.
- 21:23So. What we do know again?
- 21:25From from the from Tacitus. 'S.
- 21:30Germania. Is that the only?
- 21:32Description that Twisto gets is that he's.
- 21:33Described as being celebrated, songs being sung, traditional
- 21:38songs being sung. So nothing you know, negative or
- 21:43anything about him that he is he is recognized or he's regarded
- 21:47by the Germanic peoples as somebody of worth celebration.
- 21:53Now, one interesting thing to think about here with this right
- 21:58when we go back this far, when we're talking about, you know,
- 22:00the 1st century of the Common Era.
- 22:04Where Tacitus? Is writing his things over then
- 22:06you know, the 1st 100 years of the common era is that you know,
- 22:10we're, we're seeing well, we're getting closer.
- 22:16Back in that period of time to. Very very old proto.
- 22:19Indo European mythologies and structures so to see
- 22:23similarities between the ways that the dramatic peoples.
- 22:27Viewed the world, their worldview.
- 22:28Of things and how. They identified divinity.
- 22:34Is very, very close. Both in imagery.
- 22:39And linguistically and a monologically.
- 22:41To the Vedic. Indian mythology, the proto Indo
- 22:45European stuff. So let's look.
- 22:47At 11 particular figure. Of Vedic.
- 22:50Indian mythology. Tvastir.
- 22:56Tvastir. Is said to have.
- 22:57Been the grandfather of twins yama and yami and so there are
- 23:04some who maybe would argue that the.
- 23:06Germanic twisto, which is. Assuming a connection to
- 23:11Tvastir. Or Tavoster must have.
- 23:14Originally been the grandfather. Of the the the.
- 23:17That that primordial sky primordial being emir later
- 23:22which later appears in in Scandinavian sources as being
- 23:26cognate, the emir being cognate to to to Yama.
- 23:31Now, I'm not a linguist. I'm not.
- 23:32A etymologist to to to know. Whether that is a.
- 23:38Whether the dots connect? Some people believe.
- 23:42So and some people think. So so incidentally, Indian
- 23:50mythology places another. Figure remember I talked to you
- 23:54earlier about. The Germanic.
- 23:56Manas, the son of Twisto, who is.
- 24:00Again, the the the the. Father of three groups of.
- 24:04What we came tribes of the Germanic people.
- 24:06So in the Vedic Indian. Mythology.
- 24:08We have Manu that is cognate to the Germanic manus and in the.
- 24:15Vedic mythology Manu is the. Progenitor of mankind, which
- 24:22again you, you, you. Look at the the mythology.
- 24:25The the. The Worldview.
- 24:26That the Germanic. People had and how closely.
- 24:28It. Resembles.
- 24:30Or how similar it is. To Proto Indo European.
- 24:35Beliefs that you know a. Vedic mythology.
- 24:41So I don't know it's, it's all very interesting to me to see
- 24:45the the the correlation. The connection to those things.
- 24:47And how? How far back?
- 24:49These origin stories really go. So, you know, does this mean
- 25:00anything? Does it really mean anything?
- 25:03For heathens. I would I would say that if you
- 25:09are if. Heathenry is, is.
- 25:12Is part of your. Identity and you are identifying
- 25:14with Heathenry to pursue. It as a extension of.
- 25:19Your spirituality, religious or otherwise, and however
- 25:24structured. You want to whatever structure.
- 25:26Whatever name you want to put to it.
- 25:29This this is information. You know these?
- 25:33Are these are things? That tell.
- 25:40Us as Germanic people about our origins, this is, you know, this
- 25:47is our. This is where we come from.
- 25:50So is it important for? Us as heathens, is it important
- 25:52for dramatic people, for dramatic heathens?
- 25:56To figure this out to. Learn more about.
- 25:57This to to to study it. I believe it is because it's
- 26:00it's. Part of our history.
- 26:03It's part of our heritage. It's.
- 26:04Where we. Have come from way.
- 26:05Way, way, way back. And if we are?
- 26:08Attempting in some sort. Of way to.
- 26:12You know find Heathenry applicable in in in modern times
- 26:20we have to know where. To start, we.
- 26:21Have to know where things have kind of originated from, you
- 26:26know? We can't just make things up
- 26:27along the way. I talk a lot about.
- 26:29You know, living in Times Now where they are.
- 26:32You know, we are in saga times and rewrite, you know, write our
- 26:34own sagas and and all that. And I believe that.
- 26:37To be something that is worth putting focus and attention on.
- 26:46But if you are of. Germanic descent Why not learn
- 26:52about the ancient heritage of our.
- 26:54People. You know where we came from and
- 26:57it's you can, you can, I guess you can, you can apply it in in
- 27:00any sort of context as as much or as.
- 27:03Little as as you see. Fit.
- 27:04I'm not saying that you know you would be.
- 27:06A remiss or or. Bad heathen or anything like
- 27:10that if you didn't. But what I am suggesting is
- 27:16that, you know, a lot of people nowadays are are abandoning
- 27:19contemporary. Religious practices so.
- 27:23There's, you know, people are abandoning the, the, the
- 27:25Christianity that their families raised them in and that grandma
- 27:29and grandpa. Believed in, you know.
- 27:32Great grandma and great grandpa went to church, you know, all
- 27:34the way back, you know, a couple, 100 years, whatever.
- 27:37You know, they're, they're abandoning these, these things.
- 27:40They're, they're finding that that doesn't it, it's not
- 27:43fulfilling for them and they're finding quite often people are
- 27:47finding, you know, they're finding comfort, they're finding
- 27:52resolve, they're finding peace in ancestral ways and ancestral
- 27:58beliefs. And if you're going to proclaim
- 28:03that ancestral beliefs are important to you, then then
- 28:06shouldn't you put some attention into understanding?
- 28:10Who your ancestors are, right? Shouldn't you know where your
- 28:15ancestors came from? What the?
- 28:17Mythology. What the lore?
- 28:19What the what the belief? Behind their pre Christian
- 28:24beliefs. Are or or were I?
- 28:30Think that uncovering these things, finding this information
- 28:36out. Can be really interesting.
- 28:38It's it's. Really interesting, for me at
- 28:39least. It's it's it's it's like.
- 28:42You know, going on a treasure hunt, you know, finding clues
- 28:45along the way, and then you find this new thing that.
- 28:48Has been there. This whole time, it's not like
- 28:50it's appearing out of thin air. It's it's all been here.
- 28:55But but getting into the study of it, getting into the learning
- 28:58of it can really open up. Ourselves to connecting better.
- 29:06With our With our ancestral. Ways.
- 29:11I was talking with some. Friends you know.
- 29:13Earlier in the week about. How frustrating it is and and
- 29:17how tiresome. I think it was maybe the word I
- 29:21used or I said maybe said. It's getting old.
- 29:24You know to see. You know, every time you, you
- 29:29know, we, we, we turn around and it's.
- 29:31Anything to do with? Thor's hammer.
- 29:32Or you know all of this automatically, right?
- 29:37Norse paganism, you know, and that's not wrong.
- 29:44But I myself am not Nordic. I am not Scandinavian, I'm not
- 29:47Swedish. Icelandic, Norwegian, Dane, you
- 29:52know what I mean? I'm not, I'm not any of those
- 29:56things. Danish.
- 29:57I said yeah, Danish. I'm not Dane, I'm Dutch and I'm
- 29:59German and, and amongst other things, I mean, I, I got, you
- 30:03know, Italian and, and all the other, you know, the English and
- 30:07and and stuff, but I know that that my German.
- 30:10Roots. Are.
- 30:13On the continent, you know, we never the, the, the lineage of
- 30:17my family never made it up that far north into Scandinavia.
- 30:23We, we, we came over very early on to the United States.
- 30:26You know, we didn't migrate north and then come.
- 30:29Over we we left Europe. Now, on my dad's side of the
- 30:32family, at least, you know they left Europe.
- 30:34A while. Ago.
- 30:36So, you know, going back to that and understanding that and then
- 30:42not trying to, I don't know, I guess like not trying to put
- 30:48myself in a place where I don't belong with things, you know
- 30:53what I mean? Like I.
- 30:56Love the myths of of. Of the Eddas, you know.
- 30:59These are these are sources. These are source materials that
- 31:01help us fill in the gaps and help us know.
- 31:05You know what the beliefs of? The Nordic people, the Germanic
- 31:08people were prior to Christianity spreading.
- 31:13But you go back even. Further, you go back to what?
- 31:16Sources there are, and then study some more about where
- 31:19those things originated from and you Start learning that.
- 31:24Wow. There were, there were.
- 31:25Similarities and closest. To to to other regional.
- 31:33In cultural. Beliefs, you know, So no, I'm
- 31:39not going to stop, you know, referencing.
- 31:43The ADAS as as source. You know, 'cause they are, You
- 31:46know, I'm not going to stop referencing.
- 31:48Sagas as as sources. I'm not going to stop
- 31:51referencing, you know, poems from, from the Saxons or from
- 31:55the Angle Saxons or from wherever you know when and as
- 31:59they're found or where and as we know.
- 32:00Where they're produced. I'm not going to stop
- 32:03referencing those sources. I'm going to include them all
- 32:06because that's what makes up this whole thing.
- 32:10But it's really interesting for me to.
- 32:13I guess. Kind of approach my ancestral.
- 32:18Beliefs with the due. Diligence and respect to know.
- 32:22Where do I go with this? Where do I?
- 32:25Where do I go back to? I'm not going to Scandinavia.
- 32:28I'm not going to Norway, Iceland, Denmark or Sweden, you
- 32:34know, I'm going to the continent.
- 32:39I'm going to the areas of where I know my ancestors came from,
- 32:44and I'm learning stuff from there, from that.
- 32:46Area, yes, sure. People moved and they migrated
- 32:49and they and they took. A lot of their beliefs.
- 32:51With them and then when they. Reached an area the the.
- 32:55Information that they had the the traditions that they had
- 32:58were. Shared with those native.
- 32:59People and and they learned some of their ways and there was this
- 33:02blend of things, you know, nothing ever really stayed 100%.
- 33:08Isolated or or or. True to 1 customer thing it it
- 33:11was it was shared, you know, and that's what we're doing today.
- 33:17I think, you know, we're, we're experiencing a time where people
- 33:23are discovering their foundations.
- 33:27They're, they're, they're uncovering their roots, you
- 33:30know, and they're going back and they're learning about that and
- 33:33they're, and they're adopting ancestral ways, they're adopting
- 33:36animistic ways to connect with their ancestors in that way.
- 33:41And then they're sharing that. Discovery with others you know.
- 33:48And and the sharing of. That is where the beauty.
- 33:51I think of things comes through because it's bringing things.
- 33:53Out that were, that were. Hidden that were that were
- 33:57maybe. Concealed or buried or or.
- 33:59Forgotten about maybe at one point in time, you know, they
- 34:01were, you know, when, when, when things are buried and hidden it
- 34:04they, they, they tend to be forgotten.
- 34:07So now they, they're being unveiled, you know, and they're
- 34:10being remembered. And in that, in that remembrance
- 34:12and in that respect, new life is being breathed into.
- 34:18These ways you know, so you have a fresh set of.
- 34:20Eyes and a fresh new look on things.
- 34:24And so, you know, it's, it's about reviving ancestral ways
- 34:28and, and bringing them back into the into the forefront.
- 34:32Of our daily practices, Of our daily lives.
- 34:36You know, I was I was watching something recently, you know,
- 34:40like a lot of you folks know the the importance that the Heron
- 34:43places in in my. Individual cultic practices.
- 34:48My my my hearth cult. Has a, has a lot.
- 34:51Involved with the Heron you know and and and do.
- 34:54I try to put or place the. Heron in any sort of, you know.
- 34:59What place where it? Shouldn't like, no, I don't, I
- 35:01don't claim it to be of any sort of great, you know, Germanic
- 35:09importance. And what I found out recently
- 35:14was that. The Dutch.
- 35:18You know had had a. Because of where they live
- 35:24geographically. Very, very.
- 35:25You know, wetlands and marshes and and things in that part of
- 35:30in that part of in that part of Europe.
- 35:33The the, the, the, the. Herons and the cranes and and
- 35:36those. Types of water birds.
- 35:37Are a prevalent figure. You know they.
- 35:40They are. Very much a part of.
- 35:44The life of those people. Not maybe so much up further
- 35:50north you go, you know, up until like Norway, Sweden, Denmark and
- 35:55and some of those. Areas like that, there, there,
- 35:56there's probably I. Don't think there is any herons
- 35:59you know so to so for the Heron to be relevant to those people
- 36:02doesn't make sense. Makes sense?
- 36:05For the Dutch, because. It is a native species, a
- 36:08native. Bird to that area you know or
- 36:10that that type of. Bird and I'm of Dutch and German
- 36:14descent. So for it to have come through
- 36:17the ancestral line and then through my work and through my
- 36:21spirituality, my practices, and then connecting with it in that
- 36:25way and it it, it came through organically and it came through
- 36:30naturally. I didn't have.
- 36:31To try to put. It somewhere where it doesn't
- 36:33belong. I didn't have to fight my way
- 36:35through it. It's like, you know?
- 36:37I get. I get asked.
- 36:38Or I have gotten asked, you know, how did you find your
- 36:41Filia? How did you find your connection
- 36:44to the Heron? And I, you know, go well.
- 36:46You know the name Filia. That is a Norse term and and I
- 36:48you know. It's the most closest.
- 36:51Thing that I can come to as far as what I feel the Heron is for
- 36:54me, it's. Is a follower spirit it has.
- 36:57Been with me now for longer than I even.
- 36:59Realized that at first. But it wasn't something I had to
- 37:02consciously. Pick out like I didn't.
- 37:06You know, it's not like I was. I was picking out a skin, you
- 37:10know, in a game and going, oh, that looks cool, that looks
- 37:12nice. I'm going to wear that.
- 37:13Like, no, it came to me, kind of it came to.
- 37:19Me very clearly, but it. Was it wasn't a like up and you
- 37:23know, I didn't wake up one day and be like.
- 37:24There it is. It was.
- 37:25It was a gradual thing. It was a, It was a naturally
- 37:29occurring introduction, and I don't know that.
- 37:35Just that that, really. Speaks to me into the importance
- 37:40of as long as you are staying genuine and staying true to your
- 37:46path and and to your and to the thing that you're following,
- 37:51eventually more and more things that you're finding your
- 37:56connection or are going to manifest themselves in the way
- 38:00that it needs to be for you, you know, so but the bottom line,
- 38:05you know, for the bottom line and at the end of the day, you
- 38:06know do. I take the the the the story
- 38:11that that Tacitus. Mentions about, you know.
- 38:14The the. Songs being sung about Twisto
- 38:18and and how Manas is his son and he is the progenitor of of
- 38:21three. Classes or three groups?
- 38:25Of people from which all tribes originate.
- 38:29Am I taking that information and am I applying it into my my
- 38:34heathenry? Practically speaking, am I doing
- 38:37anything different? Not with this knowledge.
- 38:41It's hard to, I mean, I can't say that I, you know, I, I
- 38:43didn't learn any of this and I'm going now.
- 38:45I'm changing the way I'm doing things.
- 38:47No, I'm, I'm, I'm staying as genuine as I've always been,
- 38:52just now equipped with new knowledge about things and, and
- 38:55how this will inform my path going forward.
- 38:59Time will tell and, and it will be natural.
- 39:03It will be organic. It will be just as as natural
- 39:08and and organic as the way the Heron came to me and has stayed
- 39:15with me and as I go forth in the spirit with the Heron and, and,
- 39:21and all of that. This is this will be.
- 39:24Nothing, nothing different as far as, as far as I'm concerned,
- 39:27nothing is gonna change or be different in that aspect.
- 39:34And I think that. Would probably be the the the
- 39:38word of advice. If I had to give any or or
- 39:41sayings, you know, don't, don't don't take new knowledge.
- 39:44That you've discovered. And and then.
- 39:46Just because you've got. That knowledge Now reframe
- 39:49everything that you've ever done.
- 39:51Just for the sake of it. You know, just.
- 39:53For the sake of all, now I know this known, so now it must be
- 39:56different. I mean, sit with it, learn, you
- 39:58know? Make sure that it's applicable.
- 40:00For you. And if it you know it helps
- 40:04inform your growth and and you grow.
- 40:07With all of that. Then great, you know.
- 40:09Allow that to be what? Happens, but I got you know, I
- 40:16I, I think a lot of people when they learn new things is is they
- 40:19are they are enamoured with the the newness of it all right
- 40:24shiny new toy. Oh, I want to play with it all
- 40:26the time. I got to find new ways of doing
- 40:27things with it and you know it. The romantic honeymoon phase of.
- 40:33Of newness of things be. Mindful.
- 40:36Of that be be be. Wary that the what you're doing
- 40:39is not reaction. To the.
- 40:42Exciting new thing that you learned take time to to study
- 40:47and to take time to respond accordingly and, and and
- 40:51appropriately, you know, and have fun with it, you know.
- 40:58There's a lot. Of things to be learned from the
- 41:01past. Everybody knows the saying, you
- 41:05know, if you don't learn from the past and we're doomed to.
- 41:09Repeat it. You know, so much of what has
- 41:12happened that has been, you know, laid down by the shapers
- 41:16and, and and been put down in that.
- 41:18Bottom layer of of of weird is is is for.
- 41:23Learning It's not to resurrect, it's not to bring back up and
- 41:27try to revive it. You know, it's, you know, things
- 41:29went extinct for a reason and it's.
- 41:32You got to let it be. But you can learn.
- 41:35You can learn from the past and you can see and and call up to
- 41:41for lessons. You know the things that have
- 41:45been laid down in the well before you.
- 41:48It doesn't mean you have to go and disturb the water and scoop
- 41:53up the muck and then pour it into your own.
- 41:55Cups. So, but yeah, there you go
- 42:00there. Is a little bit of history.
- 42:01Of the children. Of the earth and then where the
- 42:04dramatic peoples kind of have their origin story in check.
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