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Are UK Troops About To WALK OUT Over ILLEGAL Immigration? | John Carr Royal Marines · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello friends, I'm your host, Chris Throuw. I'm a former
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  Speaker 1: Rumeries commando. I've adventured for better and sometimes worse, across
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  Speaker 1: eighty countries on all seven continents. Welcome to the Port the.
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  Speaker 2: T Shirt podcast. Hello legends. So my next guest came
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  Speaker 2: to prominence, if that's even the right words, by speaking
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  Speaker 2: out in the Rumaries commandos about let's say, preferential treatment.
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  Speaker 2: Serve two females. And now take a look at this.
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  Speaker 3: This is Piccadilly Gardens, this is Birmingham, and this is Bradford.
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  Speaker 3: This was Piccadilly Gardens, This was Birmingham, and this was Bradford.
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  Speaker 3: Demographic change has destroyed all of these once beautiful places.
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  Speaker 3: If you live in this country, your witness over the
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  Speaker 3: next twenty five years, every single city, town, and neighborhood
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  Speaker 3: destroyed by unwanted invaders. That lovely place that you like
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  Speaker 3: to go as a family. The place that's unspoiled by
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  Speaker 3: uninvited invaders can and will turn into no go areas
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  Speaker 3: filled with dangerous strangers. If you don't want our whole
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  Speaker 3: nation to end up like Birmingham, you unite together as
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  Speaker 3: one people. We were never asked remigration. Now this is
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  Speaker 3: Piccadilly Gardens.
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  Speaker 2: This is Birmingham. Oh, it's gonna be a fascinating chat.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Boom, John, how are you, brother?
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  Speaker 3: I'm very good, Chris. Thank you for having me on.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you coming here to talk to me.
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  Speaker 2: Mate, No problem. You've been in the trenches, still in there.
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  Speaker 2: From looking at your Instagram videos, so yes, I saw some.
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  Speaker 2: So a while back you came to the forefront because
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  Speaker 2: you were speaking out about something called and it was
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  Speaker 2: in reference to your service in the rural Marines and
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  Speaker 2: the fact that when you served, unlike me, females were
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  Speaker 2: allowed to join, which we can unpick that as we
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  Speaker 2: go on. It's yes. And first thing, John, I had
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  Speaker 2: to do an internet search what is DEI because I
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  Speaker 2: don't watch any mainstream media and I, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: work for myself. I do have a degree in youth
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  Speaker 2: and community work. Incidentally, which is a big factor of
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  Speaker 2: youth and community work is anti discriminatory practice. But of course,
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  Speaker 2: as you and I well know, there's a big difference
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  Speaker 2: between being anti discriminatory, which is, I don't know, being
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  Speaker 2: horrible to people who are battling addiction. For example, and
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  Speaker 2: not recognizing it as a mental health condition. There's a
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  Speaker 2: different between that and being completely woke and brainwashed. And
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  Speaker 2: you know one in Coco, the clown for prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: Well we actually got that, didn't we. So that was that?
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  Speaker 4: So over to you?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, first off, did when you joined? Was it
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  Speaker 2: already a thing when you went through training that women
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  Speaker 2: were allowed to join the commandos?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was twenty nineteen. I believe it was
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  Speaker 3: under Theresa May if she decided. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think based on any research that would have shown anything.
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  Speaker 3: Everything has to be based off of operational effectiveness. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think there was any operational effectiveness study that was
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  Speaker 3: done or anything of those types. And that decision was made,
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  Speaker 3: obviously for political reasons, made that in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 5: And I was training twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 3: In that year there was a couple of girls that tried,
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  Speaker 3: I think in that time, and you know, yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: was just it was what it was. But you start
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  Speaker 3: to hear the stories of the preferential treatment, You start
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  Speaker 3: to see the preferential treatment they're being given. And then
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  Speaker 3: as you go along and you get through your career
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, you start to understand the political strings
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  Speaker 3: that are being pulled and pushed and and the whole
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  Speaker 3: dynamic around it. So that's that's sort of an opening.
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  Speaker 3: An opening introduction is to you know, the core and
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  Speaker 3: where they were at that time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and when we say it's like political leanings and
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  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Are you aware John of the
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  Speaker 2: history of the destruction of the nuclear family.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, very much so. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I always refer to them as the kebal or
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  Speaker 2: the merchants, right who you know, people who watch my channel, No,
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  Speaker 2: I say this a lot. They took control of the
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  Speaker 2: money supply four to six thousand years ago. They moved
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  Speaker 2: with the empires. They got their hooks into everything. They
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  Speaker 2: left their esoteric societies, their their debt debt based money system,
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  Speaker 2: their religion and all of this stuff has control measures.
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  Speaker 2: So when when the Empires pulled back and this bunch
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  Speaker 2: of people allegedly absconded to Venice, hence Venetians Venetians, they
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  Speaker 2: had their plan for what what's commonly referred to as
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  Speaker 2: the New World Order, which, in conjunction with the European
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  Speaker 2: banking aristocracy and groups like the Sabote Francists, they've put
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  Speaker 2: together this total destruction of the West, basically what used
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  Speaker 2: to be referred to the cradle of Europe or the
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  Speaker 2: cradle of civilization. I know people will say that's Persia,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not. I'm not arguing that, but and so
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  Speaker 2: when I see it, I don't just think this is
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  Speaker 2: a useless government. And if we can just get ready,
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  Speaker 2: Keir Starmer, everything's going to be fair. I see an
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  Speaker 2: incredibly astute plan being executed, just like we did in
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  Speaker 2: the military, planned, prepared, all the seven piece and it's
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  Speaker 2: now being executed. And sadly, the population has become so
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say dumbed down because that's rude,
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  Speaker 2: but docile with their scrolling and the you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm preaching to the choir. So going back to the
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  Speaker 2: females in the military, this is not to me. This
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  Speaker 2: is not about equality. This is about the further destruction
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  Speaker 2: of the very fabric of society and more trauma on
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  Speaker 2: babies and children, because you're supposed to that the bond
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  Speaker 2: between an infant and its parents is so important in
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  Speaker 2: the early stages, especially your mother who you know, even
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  Speaker 2: your pheromones and stuff. You have this chemical bonding with
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  Speaker 2: to think that you're like, oh, Nammi mother. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: see her for the first like ten years of her life.
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  Speaker 2: She was in the Marines, she was in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 2: you know, slotting people and chucking ang grenades and you know,
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  Speaker 2: going in with a bay in it and tearing people apart.
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  Speaker 2: She's a great mother, by the way. Yeah, it all
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  Speaker 2: starts to break down, John, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I think you're You're on the
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  Speaker 3: money there with with aspects of that where it's like
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  Speaker 3: think people look at it and they just take it
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  Speaker 3: at face value, say, oh, they just want you know,
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  Speaker 3: they want more quality and they're trying to be nice
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  Speaker 3: deeper down. But I think what's happening and what a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people are realizing, is that the government and
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  Speaker 3: you know, international corporations and people that want people to
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  Speaker 3: be dose other people will want people to be you know,
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  Speaker 3: better consumers and that sort of thing. They want to
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  Speaker 3: have greater control. The government especially wants to have great control.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what putting women in the armed forces is about.
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  Speaker 3: It's not about being nice, it's not about being kind.
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  Speaker 3: It's about putting loyalists in positions of power. Because if
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  Speaker 3: you got your job because of DEI. You're going to
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  Speaker 3: be loyal to that. You're going to be loyal to
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  Speaker 3: that movement. And and if you're put in there as
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  Speaker 3: a sort of, you know, the antithesis of hard work
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  Speaker 3: and courage and determination, all the values that we live by.
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  Speaker 3: If you got in there via scheming and you know,
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  Speaker 3: taking advantage of political situations, you're going to be loyal
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  Speaker 3: to the political situation and not the lads.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's where a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of people have concerned, especially since you know what,
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  Speaker 3: the lads were never asked.
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  Speaker 5: The lads were never asked.
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  Speaker 3: If they were okay with their group, our group being
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  Speaker 3: completely transformed into something new. Having to take into account
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  Speaker 3: all these logistical changes that will have to be put
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  Speaker 3: in place, such as, okay, you want women to be
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  Speaker 3: fighting on the front lines, well now you're going to
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  Speaker 3: have to supply tampons to the front lines, and you're
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  Speaker 3: now going to have to suppy birth conjoin all these
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  Speaker 3: all these extra things that come on top that, not
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  Speaker 3: to mention the cultural changes.
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  Speaker 5: None of those things are taken into account. It's all
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  Speaker 5: about removing that removing, removing your removing.
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  Speaker 3: The loyalty that the lads have for each other, because,
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  Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, the government see the Marines,
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  Speaker 3: and they see the armed forces and the elite armed
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  Speaker 3: forces as an obstacle to their well tyranny, to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, And there's also a glowing factor here that
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard mentioned, and that is that the Rule
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  Speaker 2: Marines have an incredibly proud four hundred was it four
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  Speaker 2: hundred year old history of being the best fighting regiment
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  Speaker 2: on the planet of oaks, you know, the whole time,
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  Speaker 2: with one exception that we all learn about in training, Hannah,
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  Speaker 2: rest in peace. What am I trying to get out here? John,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm trying to say that clearly, we have nothing
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  Speaker 2: against women. Otherwise we'd be fucking dickheads, wouldn't we. That's
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  Speaker 2: not what we're getting at. Secondly, we're not against women
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  Speaker 2: getting ahead in whatever career that their specific skill set
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  Speaker 2: is suited to.
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  Speaker 4: But to force this one through you call it.
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  Speaker 2: You referred to it as a political yes, great, but
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  Speaker 2: obviously the deeper poll it the merchants control everything. They're
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  Speaker 2: just destroying this country. They're destroying people, and they're laughing
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  Speaker 2: at us as they do it, because we're all so
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  Speaker 2: dumb and behind the fricking curve, you know, because no
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  Speaker 2: reads books anymore, No one educates themselves. Everyone believes the
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood narrative.
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  Speaker 5: Also, nobody wants to know nobody.
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  Speaker 3: The average person doesn't like to think that there are
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  Speaker 3: people there that evil, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, exactly. And what I'm trying to get at
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  Speaker 2: is it used to be an elite job for the
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  Speaker 2: toughest men on the planet. How are they going to
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  Speaker 2: feel when they look over the shoulder and there's you know,
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  Speaker 2: a girl. No disrespect girls, but she's been helpful training.
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  Speaker 2: You know, someone carried carried some weight for her because
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  Speaker 2: it couldn't quite because it was a political move not
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't based on merit. And yeah, and John, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I do appreciate I'm talking a lot. It's just I
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  Speaker 2: invited you on the show because this is what I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of like. I wanted to get all this out
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  Speaker 2: and see what you think of it. Right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was on ship.
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  Speaker 2: I was on the first ship in British history as
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  Speaker 2: far as I know, with the odd exception of Hannah
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  Speaker 2: Schnell of having women on board. So I served on
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  Speaker 2: an aircraft carrier for a year and a half. It
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  Speaker 2: was a phenomenal experience. All the matlows started wearing after
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  Speaker 2: shaved down to breakfast. Some of us had some you know,
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  Speaker 2: how can we say some Shenanigan's going on with the
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  Speaker 2: with our wonderful wrens. And there was a great bunch
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  Speaker 2: of great bunch of girls, absolutely brilliant. The issue came
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  Speaker 2: is that to be on ship, you've got to literally
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  Speaker 2: use a hose pipe, you know, the hose reel to
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  Speaker 2: lift a twenty stone stoker from down in that hatchway
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  Speaker 2: on the floor up the ladder or can't can't remember
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  Speaker 2: the naval name for a ladder.
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  Speaker 4: Now someone's going to put.
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  Speaker 3: It in.
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  Speaker 2: And you've got to get get that around them. And
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  Speaker 2: you've got a hall of them up that ladder in
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  Speaker 2: thick black smoke because you've just been hit by it
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  Speaker 2: by you know, an ex set supplied by the French
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  Speaker 2: to the Argentinians the Israel. Yeah, and and it's at
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  Speaker 2: that point, you know, this is more political than than
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  Speaker 2: yeah than.
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  Speaker 1: Yea.
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  Speaker 5: Lads are just caught in amongst it.
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  Speaker 3: It's a shame, like I don't think people really know
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  Speaker 3: what to do with it, But I'd say if for
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  Speaker 3: the people that are watching that are sort of on
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  Speaker 3: the outside, don't really know about this sort of thing.
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  Speaker 3: Like they are very incredibly high standards in the Marines
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  Speaker 3: for a reason. That is because the Marines go to
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  Speaker 3: the front line of every single conflict, and in those
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  Speaker 3: places it's arduous, it's really tough, and you need to
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  Speaker 3: be tough if you're if you're not capable of meeting
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  Speaker 3: the same standards as the lads around you, you'll hold
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  Speaker 3: the pack back. You'll either get yourself killed or somebody
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  Speaker 3: else killed. And that was where that was the biggest
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  Speaker 3: emotional string for me. That pulled where I realized, you
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  Speaker 3: know what, I'm not letting. I'm not I've been trained
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  Speaker 3: to say that I will speak out against the hierarchy
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  Speaker 3: if they're doing something immoral and they're pushing somebody through
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  Speaker 3: that could.
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  Speaker 5: Get my mates killed. That's a red line for me.
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  Speaker 5: So that's where I drew that line.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I want the average person listening to understand,
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  Speaker 3: because they make a straw man, Oh, you just don't
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  Speaker 3: like women. You're just like, yeah, that's not even remotely true.
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  Speaker 3: It's just I don't want my mates to be killed,
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  Speaker 3: and if I have to be called a sexist or
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  Speaker 3: you know, a far right biggot or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really care if i've.
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  Speaker 3: If i've the decision that I've made has resulted in
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  Speaker 3: one person, one of my mates, not being killed. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm quite happy to take all the fuck. I'll do
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  Speaker 3: it a hundred times again.
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  Speaker 2: Did you John Witness? While you're in training girls women going.
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  Speaker 5: Through is in like being pushed through training? Who as in?
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  Speaker 2: Like to me, this is complete like anathema, I think
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  Speaker 2: is the word like we we just have blokes. It
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  Speaker 2: was a blokes job, and you just saw blokes knocking
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  Speaker 2: around camp. Yeah you saw.
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  Speaker 5: I saw birds on bottom field, Chris.
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  Speaker 3: I saw birds on bottomfield who had absolutely no business
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  Speaker 3: being there and were miles behind the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: pack and just looking at that, you're just thinking, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 5: And I was explaining this to Craig Houston. I was
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  Speaker 5: on the other day.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm when I'm Fireman's carrying because I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: naightty kilos. So I'm like, at various times, was you know,
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  Speaker 3: top three biggest people in the troop. Not trying to
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  Speaker 3: big myself up, but then like the top So that
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  Speaker 3: puts me with either the second to top or the
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  Speaker 3: top biggest bloke in the troops. So that's like me,
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  Speaker 3: naightty kilo's biggest bloke in the troop one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: ten kilos. You know, you've got two hundred kilos that
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  Speaker 3: they're plus all kit and rifle. There's two hundred and
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  Speaker 3: fifty kilos worth of kit in a fireman's carrier that
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  Speaker 3: you're having to take across the field. So everybody on that,
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  Speaker 3: everybody on that, all the lads on that line are
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  Speaker 3: capable of doing that, and the ones that weren't were
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  Speaker 3: binned off. The problem that everybody has with what's happening
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  Speaker 3: with women in the Marines is that they're saying, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we're not lowering the standards. We're not lowering the standards,
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  Speaker 3: and they're not technically, but they're awing women through. And
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  Speaker 3: this is something that like they' oh, give us evidence.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, well, there's plenty of evidence there to be
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  Speaker 3: had from maries that have seen this stuff, but they
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  Speaker 3: won't go public.
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  Speaker 5: About it because of the political pressures.
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  Speaker 3: And the fact that they'll end up, like me, losing
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  Speaker 3: their job, you know what I mean. So it's just
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  Speaker 3: that you can't have that happening. I can't have a
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  Speaker 3: woman be put aside one of my mates that is
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  Speaker 3: not capable of lifting them out of a dangerous situation.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's you know, that's I think that's more
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  Speaker 3: to what you're saying there on the ships, man, It's
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  Speaker 3: just like you can have them there and it works.
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  Speaker 5: You know when the things when the ship isn't.
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  Speaker 3: Hitting the fan, when the ship is the fan, all
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  Speaker 3: of these cracks in the foundations are going to be
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  Speaker 3: very evident.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's a lot going on in this equation.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I would say just because some there's an
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  Speaker 2: anominaly in the female of the species, and some women
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  Speaker 2: will come forward and get through that in itself, is
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  Speaker 2: just doesn't warrant changing the whole of the Roural Marines.
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  Speaker 5: They have their own group.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if there are some outstanding girls, you know
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  Speaker 3: that they're massively you know, they're.
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  Speaker 5: Just born different or whatever, go make your own group.
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  Speaker 3: Go do your own thing, you know, and if you're
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  Speaker 3: so great, you'll you'll be able to shine on your
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  Speaker 3: own back.
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  Speaker 5: But what they're currently trying to do is just mess
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  Speaker 5: with what we have.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not like girls and it's girls aren't the
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  Speaker 3: ones that are doing and it's not about pitting men
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  Speaker 3: against women. And that's what annoys me about this whole
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  Speaker 3: situation that suddenly becomes like a man versus women thing.
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  Speaker 3: And the people that are pushing this, they don't care,
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  Speaker 3: you know, about either size, about metal women.
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  Speaker 5: They just want more power, more destruction.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know, Like, how did you feel
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  Speaker 3: when you saw when you saw like the whole thing
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  Speaker 3: sort of kicking off, like you speak to any of.
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  Speaker 2: The lads of things, or I think I saw Aunt
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  Speaker 2: Middleton came straight out and just said that this is
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  Speaker 2: a croc I was kind of It's a difficult one
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  Speaker 2: for me, John, because the honest truth is, obviously I'll
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  Speaker 2: always be exceptionally proud a bit of serving my time.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, you know what it's like.
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  Speaker 4: I know what it's like.
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  Speaker 2: I'll always be a part of that family, and and
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  Speaker 2: hence why I do so much in a veterans community
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  Speaker 2: because I get it. I get all of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: The honest truth is when I left camp for the
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  Speaker 2: last time, I didn't even look back it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we like to remember the glamorous side of what we did.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: If you can call, you know, crawling through the Norwegian Arctic,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: freezing cold and wet, glamorous. You know, I thoroughly enjoyed
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: being on the front line in the Northern Island conflict.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: That was got literally no negatives to take away from
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: that except the fact obviously we we had a chap killed.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: But you know, I thinking like, you've got to be
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: a bit realistic, You've got to frame things way they are.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Loads of it was shit. There was some idiots in there,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of hanging around waiting because this person that's
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: in charge of you didn't have the bulls to say, look,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: lad's just fin out for the weekend.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I'll take if it comes to I'll take the wrap.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: You know. So you're waiting in a shitty, shitty room,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: sitting on your backpack, wishing you could just leg it
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: for the train or your motorbike or the car or whatever.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: And that was that. Obviously, as I've matured, I now
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: understand the entirety of war, what purpose it serves, who
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you're actually working for, not not who you think you're
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: working for, and the role of the military industrial complex.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: As anyone who was even half had half an eye
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: open during nine to eleven would have worked out now
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that we weren't the good guys, you know, So with
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: that in mind, when I saw this was I, you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I weren't going to go and lose sleep over it
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: a more kind of it's more of a niggle when
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: you understand the new world order that this has nothing
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: to do with equality or fervoring women's rights. All this
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: is is about their satanic you know, population control and
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: further abuses on children. Really, when when they ripped apart
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: in the nuclear family and women started going to work
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: under the you know, the notion that hey, this is empowerment,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: what they're not factoring in is that that that all
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: important bomb with the infant, with the toddler, with the baby,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: whatever it might be, is being is that that child
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: is being traumatized. Its main caregiver is not that you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: is not always around. I know this isn't the same
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: for every single women women that goes to work.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: But you can generalize, you know, you can generalize like
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: and the general truth is the truth, you know, and
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: the exceptions are exceptions. But it's not being allowed to
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: generalize is one of the most obscene things that's happened
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: to our siety where it's like, oh, so I can't
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: speak about the ninety nine percent people that you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: this is negatively affected because of the one percent, you know.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like we should be able to talk
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: about the vast majority, you know.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just thinking more that sort of you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: women do take time off work to look after I
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: don't know, our little one went into not not I
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: don't know if you call it childcare, but went to
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: like a crash. Yeah, so mum could go back to yeah,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: to work, And I don't I wouldn't like to think
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: that stunted their developed you know, traumatile work. They seem
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: to have a great time, you know, doing the paintings
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and shoving jelly in their ears and all that stuff
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: that they do. But what what was the general consensus
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: of the land then when all this was going on.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I spoke to hundreds of people before and hundreds
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: of people after, and that's like in person, you know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I Uh. The reason I put the petition together, I
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: suppose the context we're missing here from the whole stories.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: I put a petition together just to.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: State the lad's concern about this whole thing, right, And
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I just spoke to so many people and they were
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: like basically apoplectic about the whole thing, but at the
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: same time wouldn't do anything because of their job. And
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I just was like, come on, surely, surely there's somebody
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: here that's gonna do, you know, do the thing like
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: do that. There's the problem, there's the there's the really
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: dangerous thing that's like happening, and nobody's willing to go like,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: hold on, you know you can't do that, but you know,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say unfortunately, but I ended up realizing, okay,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: that has to be me.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not gonna wait around for somebody else to
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: do it. That has to be me.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: So did that, and after it it was like the
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: lads were just like yeah, in a day, a thousand
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: people signed it, and everybody that I spoke to was
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: like yes and you see that petition, yes and yeah, yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: And you know, I spent quite a while writing it
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: and made sure that it reflected what the lads think
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and the lad's concerns. That's why it popped off so fast,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: and that's why they had to clamp down on it
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: so fast as well, because they can't have the lads
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: sort of you know, they can't.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Have them really uniting in that way like they don't.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: They don't want that level of unification amongst the lads
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned. So yeah, sorry, long answer
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: to a short question. The lads overwhelmingly are massively in
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: support of what I did, how I did it, the
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: petition as a whole, but not so much of what
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: It's the petition it was.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: That's why I wanted it to not be connected to me,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: because it was the lad's words condensed into a petition.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: We all signed it. Yeah, it's one of those. So supporting,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I would say, would be the answer.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Just a little side go off at a tangent here,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: but and well we will come back to the point
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: in question. But I saw at least one person was
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a bit pissed off major No, I'm talking an outside
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: observer that I saw on social media somewhere. Couldn't remember
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: it if you gave me a million pounds, but they
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: were there was Their point was kind of Ah. When
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the lad's egos are in question, they stand up and
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: do something about it. But when they when they jabbed
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: them with a you know, yeah, uh b I you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: with a with a certain that they all bowed down
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: like Sissy's and like took it in the ass. Basically,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: that's one thing that if you want to go down
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: that side happy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: I remember in training, so it was just sort of
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: you know, fresh, merely fairly fresh.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: After COVID and you know COVID and the whole the
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: absolute corporate control of all of that. How they managed
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: to push this untested and now we know, incredibly dangerous
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: product on everyone and force people to have it, make
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: people lose their jobs and ruin lives and all those
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: sorts of things.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: It was fresh out of that.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I was in training and they're like, oh, you're going
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: to go for your jobs and I was like, I
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: just went to the medical person.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: I was like, I'm not going to have any of
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: these jobs.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: They were just like like, oh, no, you have to
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: have them, as't you won't get deployments. And that's what
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: they kind of threatened lads with. And it's a shame
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: like to those people that say, oh, well, oh they
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: just bow down. It's like these lads have come from
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: horrendous backgrounds. The identity of the core is so strong
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: and such a brotherhood, and when it gets to the
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: point of like, Okay, all you need to do is
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: just just accept this job, and you know, accept this
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: this vaccine. You know, there's no there's absolutely zero data
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: on the longitudinal effects of the vaccine and they all
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: cause mortality. You know, none of these things are properly tested,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: but you need to just accept it. Unfortunately, Yeah, a
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: lot of the lads who you know, they're not political
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: or whatever. They just want to they just want to
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: pass training and do the right thing. And it's a
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: shame that they put lads in those positions because it's
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: definitely it's blackmail.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Basically, you either get this product that we have a contract.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: To give you, or we remove your deployments, which isn't
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: something I don't think they really actually do that. They're
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: not really organized enough to do that to remove people's deployments.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: But I just said to him, I was like, no,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: and then maybe go to the chief medical officer and
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: he was like, oh, explain you're thinking. Well, I was like, well,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: we've just come out of COVID. It's been proven beyond
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: the doubt that the medical industry and corporations are willing
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: to forego testing, forego morals, forego all manner of you know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: like a actual just testing, I suppose, but just for
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: a huge amounts of profit. So I was just like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: so not only not having the COVID ones, but I'm
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: not having any other ones either because my trust for
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: them is gone. And eventually he was like, okay, you
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: can not. So, yeah, it's funny you bring that up.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: It's another it's another thing. It's another thing that there
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: is pushed on the lads that they they have to endure.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, my kind of eyr, if that's even the right word,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: is more. I'm more directing it at the bosses. You know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: the ocs and the CEO's were like where were you
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: You basically let in some cases trillionaire businessman from a
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: cabal that if you were half awake in your life,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: you'd see these guys are bloody good at network. They
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: locked everybody on the planet in their houses for two
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: years and everyone went along with it. Over over a
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: complete fiction, right, And you would have thought that one
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: one troop boss, or one company commander or or or
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: dare I say, you know, the commandant general would have
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: had the guts to go, listen, this is not happening
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: with my men. You know, we're not letting these trillionaire
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: hawks who've already taken us into twenty years of illegal conflict.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Now they want to use our guys as guinea pigs.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: It's not it wasn't even guinea pigs, was it. It
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: was it was something far far more sinister. But sorry,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to bring that point.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: It's actually really worth bringing up. It was really. I'm
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: actually glad you did, because I wouldn't have.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have brought up that point because it's another
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: level of gas lighting that that they inflict on people.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I think it to answer to maybe not to like
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: people are gonna be like, hey, you're standing up for
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: the chain of command. That's not very But like my
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: issue with it was more with that really high up
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: ministry defense people that were pushing this this the I stuff.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: But in terms of troop bosses, colonels, that sort of
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: thing like it, or anyone really I can empathize and
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: empathize with anybody that doesn't stand up to this stuff because.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: It's gas lighting.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: You feel like you're you feel like like like the
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: level of gas lighting.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: You don't want to be that that first peron to
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: be like Hey, I think this.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Is really a moral I mean, because it feels like
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: everybody else is going along with it until you realize
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: everybody else if you actually speak to them, they also
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: have the exact same opinions, and we're all just living
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: under this weird sort of you know, it's it's it's
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: it's it's similar to sort of you know, Soviet Soviet Russia,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the level of thought control that we're living under. But hey,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: well at least we're in a free democracy, you.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Know, Yes, yes, there was. I was in touch with
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: a lot observing rule marines during that period because I
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I led something called the Global Veterans Alliance during that period.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: Right, And.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I'd say we were probably responsible for the NHS not
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: having to undergo it the mandatory procedure. Nice not, you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: not single handedly, but when you when your veterans are
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: coming out in every increasing numbers and saying no, that
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: poses a threat to the pals that be, doesn't it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: But what I did know is there was quite there
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: was a lot of underground networking going on in the cord.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: There was a big underground group of guys that shall
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: remain nameless, and they had figured away around this this
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: this this conundrum, you know, quite clever actually, so yes,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: So there you are and you're basically arrested for this
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: on terrorism. How did it play out?
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so basically put the petition out. Then you know,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: chain command ships themselves starts flapping, you know. And I'm
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: not talking about like the immediate chaining command. I'm talking
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: about like the Ministry of Defense sort of chaining command.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: And you know, the higher ups in the well, I say.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: The higher ups.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: There's one bloke in the Raw Marines, quite commonly referred
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: to I'm not gonna call him necessarily a trader, but
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: quite commonly referred to a trader amongst the lads. And
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: he just started targeting the lads after this came out,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: and saying that anybody that disagreed with pushing women through
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, it's not exactly how he how
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: he framed it, but anybody that disagrees with this is
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: just a sexist.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Big and you know they're going to lose their job.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: And if you don't say this, you've got to come
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: into my office and just just threatening lads and just
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: being an absolute utter, you know, in the opinion of
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: most people of scumbag and you know, it just goes
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: against the code, really do what I mean, Like, yeah,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: coming after coming after another one of your own. I
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: just you know, I never publicly at least never would
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: have expected that, but it happened. There is that one bloke,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: So he and the Ministry of Defense came after me,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: started doing this investigation. They they tracked my IP and
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: they were tracking my comms and stuff like that. So
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I but they obviously they can't like say that openly
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: because they want to be seen to be not.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Not tracking people's comms and not commonist.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to be seen to be you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: like it's all very important to be seen to be
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: a free democracy that sort of thing, when in fact
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: it absolutely isn't. So they've figured that out very quickly.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I actually didn't really try and do much to withhold
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: my IP or anything like that.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: I just want to get out there.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: So they found me and then it started coming to
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: four to three, trying to basically trying to weed me out,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: going to the lads, threatening the lads, threatening the lads, careers,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: threatening the deployments. Just these little slime, these like Ministry
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Defense mod main slime coming to our building and threatening
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: our lads for signing this thing and saying, oh, you
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: need to give this person up, and picking the lads
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: against each other, blackmailing, just any sort of disgusting tactics
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: that you would use on terrorists. You know, you would
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: use these on on on your enemies. I think in
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: a lot of ways, that's how they think of the lads.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: So that was the stage when you join the corps,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: you you know, you join all the people you kind
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: of admire in the corps or the massive legends. Aren't
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: they the ones that don't give a ship about any anything,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: that will stand up and fight when when you need
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: them to, and you know, a good laugh on a
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: night out and all this kind of and then when
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: you have to and it's it's okay for sort of
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: n c O s and that kind of thing where
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: when you start to move up the chain, you basically
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: have to adopt all of those all of those negative
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: aspects of being a civil servant, being a pen sort
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: of you know, bureaucracy, adhering yes man, and it's not
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: not pleasant really.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So those people were those Ministry defense slime
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: we're pushing against us.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Eventually I just realized, like, right, I'm not going.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: To have them come and threaten the lads, so I'll
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: just go and tell them I did it, did that,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: and then they fly me down to the Ministry Defense
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: main building and then just practically like interrogate me there
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and you know, to answer your question how I got
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: to the terrorism thing. They push across this piece of
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: paper and it's Rupert Lowe's face. Now, I'd spoken to
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Rupert low on two occasions to try and see if
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: I could get some political support for the lads, because
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I was like, right, you know what, they're going to
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: come after the lads, and we need some politicians to
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: be in our corner. So that and I thought, you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I think he seems like a good bloke, so I
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: spoke to him. Anybody pushed this across and then they
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: basically long short of it is, since I spoke to
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Rupert low I am an extremist. You know, he's an
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: official MP, he's been voted in. But I'm an extremist.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: That's why I was referred to prevent. So they refer
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: me to prevent an unlike Axul Rudy of Cabana, who
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: was referred to prevent three times, and they never pulled
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: them up and he went unmurdered a bunch of children.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I was to prevent and picked up first time, first
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: time because obviously somebody in the Ministry of Defense is
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: put it over.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: You know, it has more it has more credence there.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and then I come back off a holiday
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: and they dragged me into a room against my will
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: and take all my phones, make me give the codes
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: to all my phones.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: But I only have two phones I've got.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I've got one phone for calls and text. It's a
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: dumb phone. I'll show you that's my dumb phone. I
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: try and use that most of the time. But then
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I have like a phone for like audiobooks and stuff.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: So there's really not.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Much on there. But it doesn't, you know, it doesn't.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: It's not it's not something you would expect to happen
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: to one of our people who isn't really a terrorist,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: who just put out a petition. And I think what
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: they were trying to do is they were trying to
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: justify how they were going to come after me because
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I'd gotten amongst like you say, it's it's bigger, and
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I'd gotten amongst this this big game, this big anti
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: white anti male, you know, anti nuclear family, like you say, game,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: I'd gotten their way and they wanted to destroy me
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: for it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: So that's why they.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Pulled me up on these terrorism charges and or not chargers,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: but like pull me up under terrorism law to try
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: and find something to use as dirt to to get
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: to get to get one up on me. So and
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: that after that point, I was like, right, they fucking
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: X escalated this. I'm going to be escalating this, do you.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not allowing them to just crush the
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: lads and crush this whole thing that we all care
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: about and that could lead to the death of my mates.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not allowing that to happen. So I yeah, but
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I basically went public with it after that point when
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: they proved there were incapable of dealing with it in
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: a mature way. That's you know, play stupid games when
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: stupid prize is basically so.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: And how did it come about then, John that you left?
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So basically after that point, I ended up going
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: on my brother's YouTube channel and went on like uh
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: talk TV to talk about it because I could see
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: what they were trying to do. I'm politically savvy anyway,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: and I knew that what they were going to attempt
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: to do was just bury it, bury the lads, yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: and just and carry on with their dangerous situations. So
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I went public about it, and then I was basically
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: put on leave by the chain of command, like im
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: my immediate chaining command, and everybody that, like all the
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Marines I spoke to, were all mega sound, do you
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, like up and down the chain of command.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Everybody was sound, and they were just looking out for me, really,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: and they could see I'd got myself, you know, cotton
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: amongst something that really didn't want to be cotton amongst.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: To be honest, Chris, like, you know, I would do
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: this one hundred times again.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, this was I don't like I.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Was known as no comms John because I would I'd
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: never be on like social media or anything. I would
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: just have like my books, my dumb phone. I mean,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not not a social media type person. So they
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: pushed me into this thing, put me on leave, and
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: eventually after a while they make it very clear to
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: me that I wasn't being kicked out because of my
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: political beliefs, and I think that was something they really
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: needed to do, and that the legal people that were
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: involved with them had to take a step back because
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: and I'm moving back a bit like when I went
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: public about it, the Ministry of Defense was running an
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: actual smear campaign on me, literally going to different news
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: outlets and I have this confirmed saying, oh, you need
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: to say, this guy is a far right extreme ast
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: far right extremists. And that was built on the build
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: the fact that I'm a part of the Homeland Party.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: It's official, it's an official party. All I'd done with
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: the party up till that point was plant trees and
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: pick litter, which you know, in this day and age,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: appears to be an extremist.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: Position and undertaking.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: But fast forwarding to me getting released was they had
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: to make it very clear, your political alignment has nothing
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: to do with this. You're releasing you because you talk
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: to the press more or less. So that's how they
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: that's how they framed it. And to be honest, like, yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I even I just I felt bad for the chain
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: of command because you know, they they don't want to
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: be doing what they're doing and they're stuck in a
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: tough situation. Everybody's in this tough situation where you've got
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: to do. You know, they're being pushed to do something
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: that they don't want to get rid of this guy.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: They did.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: This whole situation shouldn't happen to begin with, and but
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: they've they've a lot of them seemed to feel bad.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: I actually felt bad for them. I was like, they
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: were they were firing me, and I was like, just
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: don't worry.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, but but yeah, that came about Chris and
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: and and so that was a fairly clean, clean strike
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: and it happened relatively fast.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: That was July tenth actually.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: That I'd been released, and so that was, yeah, that
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: was that was what transpired.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: There Any regrets, Nah, No, I mean.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, well it's like it's mixed because I don't regret
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: what I did. I don't regret what I did, and
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I'd do it a hundred times again. But if you
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: had asked me what I thought my roll Marine's career
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: would have been, it certainly wouldn't have been. You know,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: just kind of mince around a while.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: And well the.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Mincing around isn't fair, because that's you know, but like
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: just be in for a short time, not achieve really
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: that much, and you know, leave under these circumstances. But
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: that's a very small part of me, whereas the larger
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: part of me just thinks, you know what, To be honest,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: I think I was putting the Marines to do what.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: I did, you know.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, if nobody else was there to do it,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: then clearly I was the only one. I'm not trying
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: to say like I was the chosen one, not at all,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: but like, but it's a flip side where it's like,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: you know, everybody wants kind of like a big, illustrious
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: career where they can really make a difference and make
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: a real contribution. But on the other side, it's like
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: I would have never been able to live with myself,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: to be honest, if I didn't say anything about this,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: and instead of us talking now about this thing that
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: happened months ago that's kind of fizzled out, we'd be
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: here talking about you know, one of my mates that
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: has died or you know, or you'd be here talking
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: about somebody else, talking with somebody else about the fact
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: that I'd been been killed in a dangerous situation with
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: somebody that shouldn't have passed. So how about yourself, any
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: regrets on your front with your career?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. I literally live in paradise John. Every
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: day I have done. I have done now since nineteen gosh,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think when my sort of enlightenment probably
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight, right, And when I look at my
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: life now and I think how fortunate I am, especially
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: to be the I know everyone's a proud father, but
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I'm the proudest. Then I know I've done everything right,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: don't I. You know, if I've got the perfect life,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I must have lived a perfect life. And that doesn't
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: mean that, you know, I have an upset people and
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: made mistakes, and you know, there's a I'm not like
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: a socio power or something. There are things I regret.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: But what I mean is like I'm never looking back.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I wish I'd never have hurt anyone. But I guess
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: is this is the complicated web that's called growing up
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: and developing, et cetera, et cetera.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: So no, no, not at all.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: It's I'm kind of interested to ask, because how do
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: the lads that serve now, how do they reconcile themselves
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: with the fact that they were actually working for the
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: military industrial complex. So basically, the cabal and the New
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: World Order and that whatever freedom and democracy is, the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: lads are serving the complete opposite, which I know I'm
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: not adging anyone, John, I'm too old to care. I
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: just think since those events in New York and Washington,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I think it really framed what the military is about.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: And I just wanted to ask for those people out
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: there that are like Chris, why didn't you ask him that?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I just want to know how do they just how?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, how did you justify serving in that environment?
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: It's a really it's a really good question because I
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: think we're a turning point in our society now where
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think we can really get involved in a
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: foreign war anymore.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: There's not the heart for it, there's not the.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Everybody's kind of wise, whether it's like whether it's overtly
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: aware of everything that's happening or just kind of tacitly
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: aware that we shouldn't be getting involved in foreign conflicts,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: you know, trying to push whatever democracy or whatever, the
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: whatever the pretense is. Everybody's kind of aware of that,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: and we're now at a situation where there aren't really
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: any foreign wars that we would get involved in. And
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously you've got Ukraine or whatever that's that's
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: maybe some slight exception, but we're not We're definitely not
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: going to be going there to you know, serve on
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: the front lines with them, and the idea of actually
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: being involved in a real foreign conflict is kind of absurd.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: And to the lads now, to answer your question, how
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: do they reconcile?
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: I don't think they do.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: There's a like the morale crisis and the armed forces,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: the retention crisis and the armed forces is severe. I
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: think it's got to be worse than ever has been
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: because the very core of what people need out of
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: out of beyond brotherhood and beyond being being together as
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: one unit, is meaning and direction and the feeling that
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: you're doing worthwhile work and that what you're doing as
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: a marine will have a positive impact on our nation
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: and protect our people. That Like I saw an advert
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: the other day where it was like an army advert, like, oh,
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: what's in it for me? And that was the whole
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: That was the whole kirks of the advert was trying
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: to advert ties to people that are just selfish, do
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? But most of the lads
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: aren't like that. Most of the lads joined a huge expense.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I took a fifteen k pay cut to join the Marines,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And most of the lads
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: are there because they're patriots, they want to do something right.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: But then they get in there and they realize, really,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: what's happening to our nation is it's being torn apart
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: from an enemy that's hard to keep it like.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: It's hard.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: It's an intangible enemy's we seem to be getting torn
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: in all different directions. And you're just sitting there paying
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: through the nose for this food in the canteen, right
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: or in the galley or whatever, paying for this food
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: in the galley, eating this these incredibly tiny.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Portions of food, thinking.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: To yourself, why am I here eating this incredibly expensive
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: food when all across the nations you have these hotels
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: where people are have literally invaded the country. We're being
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: invaded through the southern border, right and they're coming here,
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: and I'm having to pay through the nose for this.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I'm a patriot, I've served the country. I'm doing all
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: this sort of positive things that I think it would
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: be good for my nation. But you have people that
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: invade the country are destroying the country and are being
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: served first for free and giving everything is being given
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: to them. And so how do the lads reconcile being
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: like a part of the military industrial complex and like
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: and and the fact that our nation is being eroded
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: from within? I actually just in a lot of ways, Chris,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I just don't think they are like the they're they're
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: not reconciling it at all.
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: There.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: It's this this really dark situation where the lads are
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: just they're the morale is the morale is terrible because
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: of the lack of vision, the lack of force, and
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: the lack of actually doing anything worthwhile. And everybody is
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: just talking about why aren't we going to the southern border?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, crazy, isn't it. We've We've got the
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: best military force on the planet in our rule Marines
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: command those in our navy, and the simple fact they
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: haven't even ben tasked to go down to the channel
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: is yeah, it tells you everything.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: The the.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: What do you call it? The border patrol boat is
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: based in Plymouth for at least one of them is
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: it's it's like a sort of it's like a little
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: frigate sort of size ship, you know.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Uhh.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I never seen it go out. It was it was in,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: it was in. Certainly it was in dock for the
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: best part of a year. I know because my my
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Atlantic rowing boat was in the same the same yard
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: and h Yes, So you're saying the lads, I'm guessing
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: you've got some that are ambivalent, Some just don't want
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: to know. Some are probably not smart enough to have
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: worked it to have worked it out. Some have hyped
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: up on their own ego, thinking that they're the be
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: all and end all, and everything the Marines does is
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: just brilliant, which I suppose we you know, that was
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: kind of a category I came into. Yes, it's it's
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: just sad, isn't it that they're stabbing them like guinea pigs.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: They've just literally destroyed the best blokes club on the planet,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: the most elite force known to man, certainly infantry force.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: By now it's not a blokes club anymore. On top
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: of that, no one spoke out about nine to eleven.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Now I'm not aware. I think I'm probably the only person.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that, I'm sure there's other Marines that,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: but I don't think they've probably got a platform like this. Yeah, Yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: it's what I'm trying to say is I completely get it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: It doesn't really say a lot that I don't think
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: that career is what it is. Say, say if you
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: joined up after the Falklands like I did.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's a shame the time that we are
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: in now and what the lads are sold for versus
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: what they get.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: And yeah, just that that sort of feeling of just
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: being a muzzled, muzzled like dog basically like like we've
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: we want to go out and do what we're naturally
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: should be doing, but but we're not.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: We're not.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: The will of the average person is to defend our
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: nation and you know, keep our nation safe, secure the borders,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: but that will is not being passed on to the
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: people in charge. And it's just, yeah, the morale, it's
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: it's crisis, so that everything is a crisis. That the
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: crisis is the military. There's a crisis in the southern border,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: there's a health crisis, Like the whole nation is redlining,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: And it's the same in every's different sector. Everybody's having
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: these same thoughts of like it's just decay and and
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: moving backwards. While the East appears to be skyrocketing and
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: you look at these cities in China where it looks
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: like some futuristic you know, utopia, and we then look
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: out the window and just think like, oh, we're we're
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: being cast aside over here, and we're supposed to be
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: like they're supposed to be accountability and freedom of choice
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: and democracy and all these sorts of things that we're
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: being sold. And then you look at the reality of
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: what we have is like the average person and their
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: will for the future of the nation is maybe taken
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: into account five percent, whereas in the rest of the world,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: you know, in the East of the world, they're supposed
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: to be these horrendous dictatorships, but they actually serve the
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: people to a greater degree than our governments do. Like
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: the english Man is and I would happily contest this
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: with anyone. The white english Man is the most oppressed
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: person on planet Earth.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, and also the most ugh you know, I
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: remember during the nonsense as a call it. I refuse
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: to call it the sea word and the number, because
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: if you give power to these maniacs, they just create
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: the next.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Load of bullshit.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: You know, that's fair, and I know it's nonsense because folks,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: if you're in any doubt are been taking super greens
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: now for Sorry, John, I'm just showing some supergreens on
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the screen, folks. I started taking supergreens in two thousand
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: and three because I was fed up with being ill.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: I had the coughs, the colds, the flu, and just
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: like every other indoctrinated person in this country, I blamed
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: it on other people.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: It wasn't the fact that I had a toxic carbohydrate
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: diet you know, chips, pie in chips, Pastian chips, pizza
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: and chips, you know, YadA, YadA, YadA. That was flooding
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: my body with sugar basically, and my cells were saying, Chris,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I can't continue like this, mate, I've got a detox
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: h right. No, I blamed it on other people because
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I'd bought, you know, I'd bought into a certain you know,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: way of thinking. You can say so, folks. Uh, there's
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: a link for supergreens down below. Supergreen is incredibly alkalizing.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: And if you don't and I haven't been ill since
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: two thousand and three, yes, you do the same. This
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: has been massive on my spiritual enlightenment journey and just
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: breaking through the bullshit of the Cabao and understanding the
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: huge lie that that that that the apoplectic in psychosis
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Nation is under There's a link below. Sorry, John, I'm
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: not sure I got talking about superminis was I was
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: going to make a point to that. Oh yeah. During
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: the nonsense, I was down in New Padstow, the little
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: fishing village in Cornwall where rick Stein's got all the
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: restaurants and everything, and I just remember I was looking
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: in a shop window and this, this lad came up
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: right now, four hundred years ago, a thousand years ago.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: This lad would have come from a village in England.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: He would have been born a scrapper. He probably had been,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe would have been an archer. He'd been
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: training since he was three years old in the art
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: of battle, pulling that long bow, learning to make them,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: how to sculpe the arrows, you know, how to fight
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: off the invaders, the dead, you know, tough, proud history.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: This guy rocks up with his skinny jeans and his
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: funny hair and his tattoo sleeves. No disrespect to people
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: that tattooed. But but you know what my point is,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: he wants to be a boy, don't he. You know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: he's a geezer, you right. And I physically saw him
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: stop at the shop door.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: It was like a thing.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: He stopped, put his hand in his pocket and pulled
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: out his face mask, his muzzle, and he muzzled himself
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: and then he pulled his shoulders back and charged into
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: And I thought, that is the fucking irony of that.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: You know, we used to be a proud nation of
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: warriors and this this guy now is reduced to getting
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: his kicks off virtue signaling, you know, virtual signaling utter
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: and passing that ship onto children. Rather than educate yourself,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: just get out there, folks, learn about bishamp pastor learn
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: about the history of how we came to be in
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: victim mode with our health, and go into trillionaire psychopathic
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: merchant corporations to fix us.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: Sorry, John, as you.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: To get all this out so because I know, I
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: know people are listening now and they're going, yeah, what
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: what he said? Not not that other narrative. That's fucking stupid.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: You know, how dumb were we? You know? Anyway, the
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: big question I get asked, mate, is when are the
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: military coming to rescue us? My personal answer is they're
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: not folks to joy the military you're very much in
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: ego mode. You're an order follower. You're down on the
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: on the you know, at the bottom of the pyramid. Yes, sir,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: you know, yadda, yadda, yadda. You believe anyone with any
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: kind of streak of spirituality in them, let's say, is
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: like a fucking hippie. And and that was my That's
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: how it was when I was in John and I say,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: the only person, folks that's coming to save yourself is
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: is you right?
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: What would you say, Are the British military coming to
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: save us?
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: No? No, I don't. They're at the behest of the
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: government largely.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: And that's what's this little battle here is is to
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: try and put more of these compliant people into the
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: military so that if anything, in a couple of years time,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: the military will be coming to get you, not really savior, jermy.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: And and that's what you.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: If you're considering join the military right now, and you're thinking, oh, no,
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: I don't want to join because I don't want to
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: be you know it, I have to be at the
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: end of this political battle. And you know, I would say,
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: the more actual loyalists and the more patriots we can
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: get into the armed forces, the better so that when
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: that time comes, those people, when the time comes where
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: the government tries to tell the military to do the
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: same things that the police do on a daily basis,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: I go and arrest or go and threaten, you know,
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: your neighbors for speaking out against all of this degenerate thing,
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: this degenerate movement has been pushed on our people. You
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: can be there and you can say no. Like, if
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: you're one of those people, you disagree with this sort
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: of thing and you're not sure what to do with
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: your life, I would say, get in and make sure
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: that you stay true to yourself, and when the time
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: comes where that happens, be a whistleblower, you know, be
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: somebody that's in there to have a positive effect. So no,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: they're not coming to save us. And yeah, like what
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: you say, Chris, it's like it's all on you. I mean,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: nobody's coming. Nobody's coming to save these people. Need to
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: stop thinking like that.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I just wanted to clear that up because YouTube.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Now I don't want to say the letter, folks, but
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: it's the round one with a little sticky thing in it.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: But all those channels that were taken down for being
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: inciting it. The I think they were taking down for
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: inciting violence. And the funny things happen is that they've
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: now reappeared on YouTube YouTube for some reason. I don't
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: know if it's because Trump. I don't know if Trump's
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: able to serve a third term. I don't know how
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: that works.
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: But not constitutionally noough.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but obviously the seventeen guys were very much big
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: supporters of President Trump. I don't know why. That's miraculously
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: why they've reappeared back on, but that was one of
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: their things that the military is secretly. You know, they're
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: all aware, they're all gend up, they've all been you know,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: told what's going on. They're all there for the children,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: and they're just waiting for the you know, in fact,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of people believe in America they've already been
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: conducting operations. And I would just say it's a gross
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: misunderstanding of not only what a soldier is, but also
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: where their mindset is, and also the mindset of the
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: their leaders and the politicians and and and the cabal.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: So John, let me think you were you able to
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: walk away from this and just go yeah, you know,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: celev let let what's next.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: In what sort of context? Like, so was I able
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: to like mentally like wash my hands with this or yeah.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: You asked me, you know what was it like when
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: I left? And I said, I never looked back. You know,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't live in you know, what if
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: what can be? Oh that was a great No, I'm
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: more concerned about what I'm going to do today and
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: look for look forward to tomorrow. And the thing that
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I felt, and this is really serious, is I was
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: glad I wasn't tied to a job for twenty two years.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: That really I'd done everything in it that I kind
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: of wanted to do. You know, I'd been on active service.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: I served in the Arctic. I've been on aircraft carrier
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: around the around the world, in a in a high
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: security detachment. I got my I did. I was lucky
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: enough to get on two power courses of won't go
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: into that now, but you know, so I was power trained,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: and then the kind of hanging around the grots was
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: just I was getting too old. I just wanted to
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: go and do other stuff, you know. So that was
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: kind of my thing. What I'm saying to you is
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: because you're because it ended prematurely? Did you did? I'm
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: hoping you can struggle that often, like move on as
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: you seem to have.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll say yeah and prettymaturely and just yeah.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: So I definitely didn't do all that I wanted to do.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: But you can't get everything that you want in life.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: And when an opportunity rears its head and you know
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: it's a choice between your mate's dying or not, you've
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: got to You've got to. You've got a side with
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: the not. So, so yeah, it's it's a to be honest,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: being plucked out of it, mate. It's like, I hate
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: to think how people who have start, you know, joined
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: the court at sixteen, you know, they're thirty six, they're
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: forty whatever or later and they come out of the core.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: I just I hate to think what that must feel
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: like because I was only in for a few years
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: and coming out was just it's just like being removed
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: from a family. It's like a you know, I know,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: I'm still a part of the brotherhood, and I talked
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: to all the lads and like it's it's like, you know,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: I have great relationships with a lot of people that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I serve with, but at the same time I've been
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: removed from you know, I don't see them in a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: work context. I don't you know, I don't see them
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: nearly as much. We used to spend all the time, all,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: you know, every day together, you know, in the yeah,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: in the same sort of place, and and it is
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: a brotherhood, and to have that removed is unavoidably, unavoidably
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: bad in terms of like just the yeah, the yeah,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: it's just a bit. I'm trying not to swear. I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: swear a lot, and I try not to swear in
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: these things, but it's just it's it's bad. Yeah, my
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: vocabulary could do with some some some fixing. I think
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: I've gotten too used to just swearing all the time.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: But yeah, not great.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: You can learn, Yeah, you can learn nothing from me.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in being a potty mouth. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: I tried, like bastards, excuse me, I try. I try
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: not to. It's it's it's habit at times.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: But yeah, to answer your question and prematurely, and I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: can wash my hands a bit to a degree, but
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: it's unavoidable. The separation, the feeling that the negative feelings
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: you get from being separated from a brotherhood, like that.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Yes got you.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: So you've been very vocal.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: You came to prominence for one thing. Yeah, and then
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: it seems like you kind of just stepped into being
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: wide awake or your awakeness in you. This other role
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: came up.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Which is.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Talking about the state of the nation, this invasion that
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: we're being subjected to. Yeah, very briefly, how did that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: come about?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: I think let's ever think so have held the well,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: I suppose for me, the number one thing that's happening
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: to this nation is that the native people of this
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: island are going to be about minority in the next
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: twenty years. That in births they already are a minority
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: in many cities.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: As I'm sure you're aware, they already are minority.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: And especially for the YouTube algorithm, it's worth saying that, like,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't hate or any of those sorts
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: of things the people that are being brought in, you know,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: I just think that our people deserve a homeland basically.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: And so with that, well, I'm supposed to answer your question.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: It came about when I went to Birmingham and stayed
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: in Bordesley Green one time in the cheapest airbnb in
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Birmingham and was the only white person that I saw
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: in twenty four plus hours, and had people talking down
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: to be, people spitting in front of me in the street,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: and and just generally being treated like I was a foreigner,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: you know, in our own homeland. So that's beyond upsetting
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: to me. And then when you think about how that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: affects women and children in this country, the Native women
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: and children in this country, it's actually harrowing a lot
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: of the situations that our people are living in. So
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: for me, that number one thing that's happening to this nation,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: us becoming a minority, needs to be stop, needs to
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: be reversed. To get the people that are here, that
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: are you know, that have come over. We were never
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: asked if we want these people to be here. I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: don't take great pleasure in saying like, oh I want
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: these people, you know, I want them to go home
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: or whatever necessarily, but I'm not here to look out
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: for these people. I'm here to look out for own people.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: And we were never asked, we never consented to any
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: of this. It's having massive negative effects on our culture,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: our history, our streets, the safety of our streets, the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: lives of our women and children. So I've for a
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: long time wanted to see that not just stopped, but reversed.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: And when this all kicked off with the armed forces
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: of Ministry Defense, you know, I was aiming for a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: career in that sort of path and maybe after it
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: sometime getting political. But I was sort of forced into
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: this position where I was like, you know, I had
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: my you know, sort of the Ministry Defense trying to
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: dox me and stuff like that, and they came after me.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: So I just thought, you know, I've they've they've already
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: burned this ticket. I mean, so i'd be as well
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: just saying what I want to say. I'm in a
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: position now where I can say the things that other
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: people aren't able to say because of their jobs, able
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: to have that mature conversation about the demographics of the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: country that other people aren't allowed to talk about. So
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's in some way, it's again it's gifting
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: the curse. Like you know, I wouldn't necessarily want to
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: be here doing this, but you know, I have a
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: bit of a talent for I suppose and I understand
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: these things, and I more or less have a duty
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: I feel to to talk about so that's how I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: got here.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So how would remigration actually work.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, more or less the same way that migration work.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: To be honest, people essentially saying, okay, this is our homeland.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: We have a right to decide who we share our
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: homeland with. And at that point we can say, okay,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: so these people that are here your guests in our home.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Where do you you know, whether you were really invited
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: or not. We're going to say civil or whatever, and
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: you know your guess, but you know by this date
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: you're going to have to leave. You know, you weren't
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: You weren't invited here. Your presence here is having a
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: negative effect on our nation. And I think what you
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: would basically do is mate is start with the men
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: and say okay, right, blokes, you can go back to
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: your homeland, will you know, we'll square that way before
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: this date, you know, whether you're going on a plane
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: or however. You know, there's many travel means, you know,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: I think however many million people go through you know,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Heathrow and British airports per day, so it could it
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: could be done in a matter of weeks really with
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: the political will, and we say okay, you go back
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: to your homeland, you find a house, you know, you
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: find a job, and then you know your families will come,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: you know, in a couple of months time, basically, and
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: uh yeah, And what would happen for the people of
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: this nation would be we'd be able to go out
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: in the street to be safe again, and we'd have
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: we'd have a homeland again, and we'd have unity again,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: and we wouldn't have all of these international conflicts, which
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: should be international conflicts, right like the Israel Palestine conflict
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: should remain the Israel Palestine conflict, and it shouldn't be here.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: But as we saw a Manchester the other week, since
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: our nation is multi racial, multicultural, whatever you want to
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: call it, our streets become an extension of international conflicts,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: and our children and our women have to live in
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: that environment. And that's just a for me, it's something
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: that I will never accept. And how that will, how
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: that will work, will be a case of like how
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: I just said, it's just if you came here legally,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: you can leave legally, and if you came here illegally,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: you will. If you came here illegally on a dinghy,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: you're going to be leaving on a Dinghy and yeah,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: especially when it comes to murderers, rapists, terrorists, Like people
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: say like, oh, how would remigration work, Well, it's like
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: we seem to have the political will to put the murderers,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: like leaving these murderers right still alive. We're paying for
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: them hundreds of thousands of pounds every year, millions a
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: year for all these terrorists and things.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: We're paying for them in these prisons and things.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Lie Rigory's killers, and all these people should at best
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: be deported immediately. And we have the ships, we have
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: the we have the air force, we have the ships,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: we have ferries, we have all the supplies and means available.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: It's just the political will that's there. And if you
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: want to know how we will get the political will
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: and how we would enact that, that's another conversation to
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: be had.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: But with the political will, it can be done rapidly.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: Three hundred days, I think you can get rid of
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: fifteen million people hunt very easily, you know what I mean?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, And it is becoming a you know, this would
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: have been deemed as extreme far right, you know, as
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: little as two years ago, right, but now I mean
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: there's this chap Steve Laws I'm sure you're familiar, yeah
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: with him. I don't know Steve, but I do know
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: that remigration now has been his his his his thing
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: for want of.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Made a video or made a video for Yeah, and
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: you show the video that started the podcast. Actually that
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: that encapsulates a lot of my thinking, to be honest,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: that video.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: And also a friend of mine who comes on the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: PODCA He's been on the podcast several times, Mike McCarthy.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: And Mike is a hyper intelligent, hyper intellectual and he
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: completely gets the you know, the merchant Caba and every
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: every aspect of it. And he's actually put his own
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: plan together to address this situation. Right, So I guess
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: what we're saying a friend zone. This is not you know,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: this is not this is now a big thing, a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: big debate, a big narrative. My question, John is if
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: you buy into the notion, which obviously I do, that
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: the this cabal, like I say, took control of the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: money supply four thousand years ago, they got their act
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: together in recent years. We're talking sort of the last
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: couple of one hundred and fifty two hundred years with
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: the European banking aristocracy, with Adam Wisehap's illuminated ones and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: with the Sabotine Francis, which is all you you know,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: the Sabatin Francis are a cult that believe if you
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: can't be good, be bad, be really bad, and they
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: worship Saturn, Satan all but bar as it used to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: be in the days of old. And this is why,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: you know, I'll say, allegedly, I know what I believe,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: but this is why you have this black cube symbolism everywhere,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: like on Trump towot's a black cube in Wall Street
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: You've got I can't remember it's but the bull the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: bar of Wall Street. At the Commonwealth Games you had
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: this huge bull and the scummers, you know, the great Unwashed.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: We're all worshiping it with shards of light, which.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Of the disturbing iconography, and.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: That links to Kabbala the shards of Light. A simple
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: Internet search will bring that up for people who want
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: to learn more. And so my point is you've got
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: this historic manipulation of people kind, the planet over mankind
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: through the money system, debt based money, slave in uzuri,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: fractional reserve lending. You've got everyone in a hyper ego
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: state because the notion of spiritual reality is probably lost
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: on the vast number of people who wouldn't be prepared
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: to put the work in. If you I can tell
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: you that because I talk about every single day, you know,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: talking about it and getting and seeing people follow it
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: is totally different in the same way as not I
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: guess not everyone sees a place joining the Marines or whatever.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: So geting to.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: The point, there's a complex web of deceit out there.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: We're when you look at the Tavistock Unit, the Nudge Unit,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: the Sorry, the Tavistock Institute, the Nudge Unit, the Fabian Society,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: all of these bodies which the merchants control, along with
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: the Freemasons, the church. All of it is in their web,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: you know, their their constructive influence. How are we even
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: going to have remigration, John when no one even understands
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: anything about what I just said, bar bar those few
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: committed people that are probably watching.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: Now, that's an interesting question. I think people get wrapped
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: up and think about this recently. Actually, So, what are
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: the actual outlets of power that they that these people
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: are using. Well, they've got the police, they've got the press,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: they've got the government, you know, they've got they've got
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: some of these people on the street, But really the
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: power that they hold and the power that they have,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's an information, it's a it's a power
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: of information. If if you can, if you can address
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: those aspects of I suppose they've got the courts as well,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: If you can look at all of those individual outlets
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: of power and say, Okay, are they unconquerable? Is are
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: the police unconquerable? Are the courts unconquerable? Is the government unconquerable?
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: I think?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: To be honest, and so I'm asking these questions, but
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: I'll say, in my opinion, it's a house of cards
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: that is very tentatively put together, relying on this almost
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: mass hysteria of people to follow along with things that
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: they know not to be true.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: And it can seem so.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: That that's, in fact, you know, maybe the most powerful
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: aspect that they have, and it can seem untoppable.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: But I think it's a I think it can be done.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: If you can take if you can take those institutions,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: which I think can be done, then I think we'd
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: be in a a very good position where the average
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: person doesn't need to know, you know, we don't need
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: the average person to really see behind the curtain. Necessarily,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: I think the average person tacitly understands.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: Where power is and where the where.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: The negative aspects of society are coming from. At that
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: point we can just we can square it. Awake, Chris,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know what do you think on that front?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Ah, good question, brother. So you know nothing in this arena,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: as you can see, I'm tripping over me words. Nothing, nothing,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: there's nothing is straightforward. I'm my bottom dollar. And I say,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: this is why people watch my channel. Is I say,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: if you're not if you can even be asked to
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: save yourself first, don't even you know, how do you
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: think the country is miraculously because part of part of
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: your own enlightenment is understanding the whole ego process that
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: we're under. There's people out there with massive influence in
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: this country. I'm talking members of the public with huge followings,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: and yet I'm talking from a you know, a psychosocial
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: construct here. They're massive ecomaniacs, you know. And and and
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: this is the trap, this is the trap that's kind
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: of setting set for us. Is I say, bottom dollar,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: save yourself first? Understand what what what is emancipation from
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: mental slavery, as Bob Marley sang about what what does
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: that actually mean? What do you have to do to
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: achieve that? What? What's the physical or even you know,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: spiritual or energy result of doing doing doing this thing?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: And this isn't even a conversation that that anyone's ever
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: really had, bar bar a few YouTube channels, and there's
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: probably some cracking books out out there, and we've somehow
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: got the notion that. And the reason I say that
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: is two things come off the back of that. John. First,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: you save yourself and you get to wake up every
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: single day in paradise. Fact in Scripture it's referred to
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: as heaven on Earth. In Old Testament it's referred to
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: as the promised land of milk and honey, which just
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: means serotonin and DMT. And the result of that is
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: you get to live every day in paradise, and you
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: get to become a much better person for it, right,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: and you get to influence then the energy field of
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: life by the fact that you're a much more productive,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: high energy putting out person rather than the one that's
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: shuffling along on their phone looking forward to you know,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: getting a can of Stella on the go and not
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: saying hello to anyone, is shouting at the kids, and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: you know what benefits can get from this great nation?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: And next that kind of I'm not you know, I've been.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: I've been all of these characters, so it's not not
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: a judgment, folks. You know one of those characters puts
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: out the other takes, don't they from the energy energy field?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of what basic fundamental work we
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: can do there. But the second result of emancipating yourself
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: is that you then do affect change. Because life is energy,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: vibration and frequency, you know right it is. It's a
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: bit like if you chuck a turkey in the oven
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: and then you stand outside light in matches, nothing nothing changes.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: But if you can change the energy, the vibration and
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: the frequency in the oven, which we all know you
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: just turn a switch, wow, you affect significant change, certainly
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: for that turkey. And when you get the massive is
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: that are there and they recognize something's wrong in this country,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: but they all kind of think someone else is going
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: to fix it, and maybe maybe that's I'm not blaming them,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, how who else is I mean, I'm I'm
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go up and punch Kear Starmer
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: and drag him out of office. I wouldn't want to
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: do the twenty years in prison that I'd probably get
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: sentenced to.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: I'd like to see it, though, Chris would.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know with AI mate, someone can knock
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: up a video of me doing that, you know, and like,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: I get it. But what I would say is to
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: those two million people in London is don't forget folks.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: You can also work on you. You can go home
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: and rather than put on the BBC or the you know,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: you can say no, I'm not going to do that.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: I'm going to educate myself. I'm going to you know,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: learn what is all these scriptures about, you know, you
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: hear about your whole life and we just scoff it here.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: We think, because we've had the religious brain one kids,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: we think that's all nonsense and we don't realize that
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: they're in lies, some phenomenal you know, the code of
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: life as it were. And this is sort of where
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: my thinking is John. But of course everything is to
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: a degree subjective. However, as somebody pointed out to me
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: in a very kind message today, they said they were
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: talking aboutsis nosis is the ability to know things as
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: opposed to hope or just kind of believe andsis is
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: a pro again the product of the Enlightenment experience. And
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: one thing I know is that certain people out there
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: at the moment, they are not good for this country.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: And I'm not mentioning names because I don't attack other people.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: It's you know, I've got enough to work out in
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: my own life before I point out the you know,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: the splinter in other people's eyes. But you just know
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: where people like you sense where their ego is. You
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: can totally get what their motivations sort of are. And
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: a bit of a long winded way, John is like,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: I totally get the immigration thing. It goes back. The
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: first foray into it was something called windrush, which was
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: back in the forties, and that was the kebal You
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: can trace it. The merchants, they under the radar. There
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: was this Sorry, I'm friends, I appreciate I'm talking a lot,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: but I think this is good. This is the stuff
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: people need to know.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: I'm here for it.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: There was a Commonwealth fact, John, I can't remember the
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: official name of it, but it was a Commonwealth fact
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: that came into operation. It was voted in after the war.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: It was passed through Parliament this paper after the war
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: and they put it out to Commonwealth people if you
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: want to come and live in Britain on your sport,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: you know you can do that. And it was aimed
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: at for example, Australians and you know Kiwis and not
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: to put too fine a point, but people that's kind
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: of like just like us. That was. That was the
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: kind of ethos from from what I understand and what
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: the what the merchants did with their New World Order
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: plan is no, they went, they skipped across the Caribbean
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: and under the radar, like you know, without the knowing
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: of the British government. They put adverts out saying do
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: you want a new life in Britain. And again I'm
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: just going to say this for the sake of saying it, folks,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: none of us are racist. John and I fought alongside
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: Afro Caribbeans in or people of Afro Caribbean origin in
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: the core. They were our brothers, no issues whatsoever, don't
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: care not not. The point I made in the point
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: is for this keba is they knew that when you
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: start flooding a country en mass with people from a
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: completely different culture you're not supporting either to the detriment
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: of both, and that eventually you'll wear away at the
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: existing country and its culture to the point where it
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: where it ceases to exist. And that is the new
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: world order. You know, this is the this is the plan.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: They're quite happy destroying nations. They don't.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: And this is part of I think people don't quite
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: wrap their head around, is why would they destroy nations
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: because then they're going to have less There's going to
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: be less money, there's going.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: To be less wealth to go around.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think it really matters to these people how
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: much wealth is going around or how much uh, you know,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: societal development there is.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: If they have the power, they're quite happy to trod.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: You know, destroy a whole a nation as long as
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: as long as as they hold the keys.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: They're quite happy with that. People don't like to think
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: those people exist, but my experience would tell otherwise.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's an interesting topic in itself. For example,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: these data centers that they're using now to manage life,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: your life, my life. I'm guilty. I use AI pretty
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: much every day. It's it's it's been extremely useful tool
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: for a one man band like me. But these data
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: centers they use one data center can use a tenth
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: of the energy of the state that it's that it's in. Well,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: that's that's you know, coal, gas oil, whatever it might be, solar,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: that's your energy, John, that they need to run these centers.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: They don't want you, they don't want There isn't and
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: there's eventually there's not going to be enough for everyone.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: So logic would dictate either one thing has to give,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: the data centers or the people, the popular you know,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: the population numbers. And I would suggest when you look
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: at the medical nonsense, they don't mind getting rid of
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: quite a few people, do they.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Secondly, if you've got this new world order put together,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: you don't want a load of scumbags enjoying it, the
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: great unwashed, the plebs, the people. You want just enough
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: of those, you know, just enough of those minions to
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: do your dirty jobs. And you know, with a strata
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: of the middle class, this is your George orwell now,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: isn't it nineteen eighty four? A strata of middle class
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: pushing the buttons and telling the great unwashables what the
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: proles what to do, while the rest of it and
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: in one way, John's, you could almost you know, see
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: why they do it because at the moment the planet
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: has just been destroyed. It's ugly where I live. I
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: live on dark you know, pretty much live in one
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: of the most picturesque parts of the planet, right on
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: the edge of Dartmore. And now I remember my dad
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: saying as a kid, Oh, they'll never build McDonald's on Dartmore.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: I'm like, fuck off, Dad, they will.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: That is absolutely. You're gonna watch Dartmore ever ever more
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: encroached in. And anyone that's ever been in Plymouth now
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: drive from Plymouth to Dartmore. What if you got You've
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: got car showrooms, You've got out you know, BMW, you've
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: got you know, got.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: A nature crisis, man, that our natural surroundings are being destroyed,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: our connection to them as being severed. And then people
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: will wonder why we have so many mental health issues.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a horrible reality to be honest, isn't it.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: So that was that was my answer. So, but I
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: am a great you know, I don't live in the clouds, John,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just a realist. I understand what's going on. They're
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: playing everyone by their ego and the fear and the
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: dumbing down. And until we recognize two things, that it's
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: a cabal. Just look at look at the scam they
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: locked everyone down in their homes for the best part
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: of two that is a global network. This is very
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: very good at what they.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: Do right practice. They rehearsed these things beforehand.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: They know that every weak, lily livid person and hold
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: my hand, I've been one of those people before. I'll
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: probably be one in the future when it comes to
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: some issue. Right, they know that the living, lily livered
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: public will just go along with it rather than revolt
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: and go, no, I'm not doing that. It ain't right.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: I ain't doing it for the kids, you know, and
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: which I in that scenario, I absolutely did because I
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: realized the severity of the of where it was leading.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: So until we recognize there's a cabal, and they're very
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: good at what they do. They control the money system,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: and that they control through energy vibrational frequency. That's your energy,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: your vibration and your frequency. You know, there's a reason
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Stephen King forty odd years ago, now almost fifty years ago,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: got a three hundred thousand dollars advance when he wrote
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Carrie right, right, You've got to think who owns all
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: the companies in the world, who owns the media, the Hollywood,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: the music industry, the publishing industry. Right, they're putting out
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: a narrative. The reason JK. Rowling came to fame wasn't
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: so much that she wrote a book on the back
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: of a tissue in the local cafe whilst unemployed.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: It was more the.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: Subject matter that she wrote about is just ticks the
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: box for let's get some some of the occult onto
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: the kids. So that's what I would say, John, listen,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: thank you for letting me speak.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: I know, mate, I listened to your day.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think it's all well and good. Sometimes
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: i'm people on and they're a bit it's you know,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of people out there quite influenced, you know.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: So there's certain subjects I'm just not going to entertain, John,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: because I've lived in eighty six countries across all seven contents.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: I there's certain things you just know. And yeah, sorry,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: I'm to stop talking now, mate. It's been absolutely brilliant,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: absolutely brilliance.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: I appreciate it that.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Friends out there. What I'll say is, if you've got
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: questions for John put them in the comments. Be polite
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: because we we you know, we're in a period now
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: where lots of veterans are taking their lives.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: I'm not suicidal. Let me put that out there. I
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: need to. I mean, I need to say that publicly
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: as much as I can.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just talking in general. Is that is that when
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  Speaker 2: you leave comments, folks, you've got to remember the state
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  Speaker 2: of mind of lots of people out there, not not
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  Speaker 2: just veterans. And you can't just be right right in
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  Speaker 2: nasty stuff to people. So just be polite in your comments.
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  Speaker 2: Leave some questions for John and we'll get John back
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  Speaker 2: on again.
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  Speaker 5: That I'd love that. Thank you for having me on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, not a problem.
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  Speaker 2: And you know I'll just I'll just fire the questions
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  Speaker 2: at you John and let let you answer them all,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, happy with that, certainly.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I've got to go, brother, I would say, sorry
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  Speaker 2: to bring this to an abrupt hole. It's just I've
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  Speaker 2: got another podcast booked in fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 4: I better go and prepare for it.
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  Speaker 2: So do I Ah, good, good, So I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, thanks for having us on, man, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: be in touch sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: No problem. Just hold the line one sect John, so
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  Speaker 2: I can say goodbye properly friends at home, If you
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  Speaker 2: would be absolutely awesome. Thank you, And can I just
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  Speaker 2: say thank you to everybody that's chipped in a fiver
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  Speaker 2: for my upcoming Mount Every summit to shine a light
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  Speaker 2: for struggling veterans, to make the link between unhealed childhood
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  Speaker 2: trauma also known as adverse childhood experiences, and the suicide
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  Speaker 2: epidemic that we're witnessing in the military community because nobody
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  Speaker 2: is talking about it. You know, nobody is making that link.
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  Speaker 2: And that's for a variety of reasons, both political and personal.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a link below, folks, if you can chuck
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  Speaker 2: us the five to help me summit Mount Everest and
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  Speaker 2: support a PTSD camp Dan in Cornwall, John Massive, thank
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  Speaker 2: you again.
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  Speaker 4: I'll just come and say goodbye.
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  Speaker 2: Wait there, let me play us out much love, folks,
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