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- 0:04SPEAKER_00: This is After The Signal.
- 0:05SPEAKER_00: I'm Thomas Calder.
- 0:07SPEAKER_00: We spend our whole lives knowing our parents and remarkably little time knowing who they were.
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: There's a photograph of my father that I've always liked.
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: Not because it's particularly remarkable.
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: It's remarkable to me because when I look at it,
- 0:23SPEAKER_00: I'm reminded of something that took me a surprisingly long time to understand.
- 0:28SPEAKER_00: My father had a life before he was my father.
- 0:30SPEAKER_00: That sounds obvious.
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: Of course he did.
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: Every parent did.
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: But knowing something intellectually
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: and actually understanding it are two very different things.
- 0:38SPEAKER_00: When we're children, our parents seem to begin with us.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: Dad is dad.
- 0:42SPEAKER_00: Mom is mom.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: They occupy these roles so completely that it's difficult to imagine there was ever
- 0:48SPEAKER_00: a time when the roles didn't exist.
- 0:51SPEAKER_00: But there was.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: Before my father was my father, he was somebody's son.
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: He was a boy.
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: He had friends I never met.
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: He went places I've never been.
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: He made decisions I know nothing about.
- 1:03SPEAKER_00: He had ambitions before he knew whether any of them would work out.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: He worried about things that probably seem trivial now.
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: And he experienced entire chapters of his life before he had any idea
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: that I would eventually exist.
- 1:17SPEAKER_00: The older I get, the more interesting that becomes to me.
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: Because I think one of the strange things about losing
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: a parent is realizing how much of that person you never thought to ask about.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: We ask our parents practical questions.
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: Where are the keys?
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: What time are we leaving?
- 1:33SPEAKER_00: But there
- 1:39SPEAKER_00: are questions we often don't think to ask until much later.
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: Who were you before you were responsible for me?
- 1:45SPEAKER_00: What did you want?
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: What frightened you?
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: Who broke your heart?
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: What did you think your life was going to look like?
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: What mistake changed you?
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: What did you believe at 20 that you no longer believed at 40?
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: Who influenced you?
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: Who disappointed you?
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: Who helped you when nobody else knew you needed help?
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: And maybe the question I find most interesting,
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: what happened to you that eventually became part of me?
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: Because that's inheritance too.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: We inherit more than possessions.
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: We inherit consequences.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: A parent makes a decision at 25.
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: Maybe it changes where they live.
- 2:19SPEAKER_00: That determines where they meet someone.
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: That determines where a family eventually settles.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: That determines which school a child attends,
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: which friends that child makes, which opportunities appear.
- 2:32SPEAKER_00: One decision becomes another.
- 2:35SPEAKER_00: And decades later,
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: somebody is living inside the consequences of a choice made before they were born.
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: We rarely see our lives that way.
- 2:44SPEAKER_00: We experience the present as though it arrived independently.
- 2:48SPEAKER_00: But it didn't.
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: There is an architecture beneath it.
- 2:51SPEAKER_00: A chain of decisions,
- 2:52SPEAKER_00: accidents,
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: relationships,
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: sacrifices,
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: opportunities, and mistakes stretching backward through people we may barely know.
- 3:01SPEAKER_00: That's part of what fascinates me about families.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: You can look at an old photograph and see three people smiling at a camera,
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: but the photograph can't show you everything that had to happen
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: for those three people to be standing there.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: It can't show you what almost happened instead.
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: It can't show you the job somebody didn't take,
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: the person somebody didn't marry,
- 3:22SPEAKER_00: the train they almost missed,
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: the argument that changed the decision,
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: the money someone quietly saved,
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: The risk someone refused to take or the risk they did take.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: The photograph shows the result, not the architecture.
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: And when we're children, we mostly see results.
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: We see the house.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: We don't see what it cost.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: We see Christmas morning.
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: We don't see the bank account.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: We see dad leave for work.
- 3:48SPEAKER_00: We don't necessarily understand what he's carrying with him.
- 3:51SPEAKER_00: We see mom make a decision and sometimes assume that's simply the kind of person she is.
- 3:56SPEAKER_00: We don't know what experience taught her to make that decision.
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: Children inherit outcomes long before they understand causes.
- 4:03SPEAKER_00: And then something strange happens.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: We get older.
- 4:06SPEAKER_00: We become adults ourselves.
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: Maybe we become parents and suddenly certain memories change shape.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: Something your father said when you were 12 makes more sense when you're 40.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: A decision your mother made that once seemed overly cautious begins
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: to look completely different when you're responsible for somebody else.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: You begin seeing your parents less as characters in your childhood and more
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: as people,
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: imperfect people,
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: people improvising,
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: people making decisions without knowing how things would turn out, just like us.
- 4:38SPEAKER_00: I find that strangely comforting because when you're a child,
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: adults seem to know what they're doing.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: Then you become one and you discover the terrible secret.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: Most of us are figuring things out as we go.
- 4:51SPEAKER_00: Your parents were too.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: That doesn't excuse every mistake.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: Understanding isn't the same as absolution.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: Some parents fail their children badly.
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: Some wounds are real.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: Some choices deserve to be judged honestly.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: But even then, context matters.
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: Understanding how somebody became who they became isn't the same as approving
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: of everything they did.
- 5:13SPEAKER_00: It's simply seeing the whole person.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: And I think that's something we owe the people who came before us whenever possible.
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: Not sainthood, not condemnation.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: Complexity.
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: The willingness to let them have lives larger than the role they played in ours.
- 5:29SPEAKER_00: I've been thinking about this a lot while writing the executor books.
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: At the center of them is a son trying to understand his father after
- 5:36SPEAKER_00: the father can no longer explain himself.
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: And the deeper I go into that idea, the less interested I become in the question.
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: What did his father leave behind?
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: I'm much more interested in who was his father before Elias knew him.
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: Because that's where the real inheritance begins.
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: Long before the will.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: Long before the estate.
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: Long before anybody knew there would someday be an executor.
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: And maybe that's true outside fiction too.
- 6:04SPEAKER_00: If your parents are still here,
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: there may be an extraordinary opportunity hiding inside an ordinary conversation.
- 6:11SPEAKER_00: Ask something you don't already know.
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: Not about the family logistics.
- 6:15SPEAKER_00: Ask about them.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: What were you like at 20?
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: What did you think you would become?
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: Who was your best friend?
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: What were you afraid of?
- 6:23SPEAKER_00: What decision changed your life?
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: You may hear a story you've never heard before.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: And if your parents are gone, as mine are, perhaps there's still something worth doing.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: Look at the photographs.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: Read the letters.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: Ask the people who knew them before you did.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: Not because you're trying to reconstruct a perfect history.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: You can't.
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: But because every now and then, you'll discover a piece of them that existed before you.
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: And when you do, something interesting happens.
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: You understand them a little differently.
- 6:55SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you even understand yourself differently.
- 6:57SPEAKER_00: Because before they were our parents,
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: they were people becoming the people we eventually inherited.
- 7:04SPEAKER_00: I'm Thomas Calder.
- 7:05SPEAKER_00: This is After the Signal.
- 7:07SPEAKER_00: Until next time, strengthen the things that remain.