Latest / Rusty's Garage / Drivers Only: Episode 4 with Will Brown, Jack Le Brocq and James Golding
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- 0:02A listener production.
- 0:05G'day, everybody.
- 0:05Rusty here.
- 0:06About to exit stage left as the supercars drivers get ready for yet another Garage Studio Takeover.
- 0:14For this edition of Drivers Only, Will Brown, Jack LeBrock and DJ Jimmy Golding are on the model.
- 0:20Now, they recorded this one just before the announcement that Anton Di Pasquale was headed for Team 18 next year.
- 0:27Some shock news that leaves Mark Winterbottom's future up in the air as well.
- 0:32And a lot of chat about an announcement today at DJR of Anton's high-profile replacement.
- 0:39Hopefully, Frosty can land a ride in a silly season too that, as the boys talk more broadly about, is sure creating headlines and more movement happening.
- 0:49than we expected.
- 0:50Thank you for the feedback on these episodes too.
- 0:52Tell your mates, download the listener app and listen for free or wherever you enjoy your pods.
- 0:57You can also watch them later on the Supercars YouTube channel as well.
- 1:01Here we go.
- 1:02Latest step of drivers only, including some of your questions.
- 1:06Pit lanes open.
- 1:07Hit the gas, Will, Jack and Jimmy.
- 1:09Enjoy.
- 1:10Kind of feels better wearing them, doesn't it?
- 1:12So you've been a pro, hey?
- 1:13Yeah.
- 1:14I feel like I will.
- 1:15You're in design.
- 1:16It's all fake to you, mate, isn't it?
- 1:17Yeah.
- 1:18How do you want to start this?
- 1:19Do you have a... Yeah, you're talking about a little DJ panel, mate.
- 1:22Yeah.
- 1:23Start with that.
- 1:24Can we have sound effects?
- 1:26Do-do-do-do-do-do.
- 1:30I know.
- 1:30So, hey everyone, it's Will Brown here, back for episode four, I think it is, of the Drivers Only podcast.
- 1:36And we've got Jimmy Golding and Jack LeBrock here with us.
- 1:39How are you going, guys?
- 1:41Pretty good, mate.
- 1:41How are you?
- 1:42Yeah, thanks for having us on your show today.
- 1:44It's great.
- 1:45We're actually across the table from you, so I feel like we're actually on your show.
- 1:47First time hosting, you know, so big day for me.
- 1:49But no, what's everyone been up to?
- 1:51You know, Tassie a week and a half ago, what's been going on since then?
- 1:56Just hanging out, defrosting, been renovating, finished off my renovations this week.
- 2:00So it's been bloody exciting.
- 2:01I've put the tools away.
- 2:02So I've actually dusted off the gym equipment and so I've got to try and get fit for sanddown.
- 2:07So sanddown's shred at the moment and I've got three weeks left.
- 2:11Do you actually want to get fit for sanddown though?
- 2:13Like when you think about it, with the co-driver weights these days, I want to fatten up.
- 2:17I want to get heavy so that...
- 2:19Well, it's on bulking for Bathurst.
- 2:20It's probably not as crucial at Sandown, so then you bulk for Bathurst.
- 2:23Yeah, right.
- 2:24That's when you get back on the burgers for four weeks.
- 2:25I'd just be like a little short, real wide.
- 2:28It just wouldn't look right.
- 2:29I can't even.
- 2:29No matter what I do, the only way I can really put weight on is muscle, really.
- 2:34But it's just a slow.
- 2:34It's a tough gig, isn't it?
- 2:35It's a slow burn.
- 2:36A lot of people out there aren't going to like you saying that.
- 2:41Yeah, I try to be heavier, but it just doesn't work.
- 2:43Yeah, right.
- 2:44Yeah, well, it's a pretty big advantage with the co-drivers these days with how it works, really, for that.
- 2:49Yeah, it was big at Bathurst last year, wasn't it?
- 2:52Yeah, with Dave Russell.
- 2:53Yeah, old D. Russ and Richie, Richie with SVG.
- 2:55Yeah, true.
- 2:56It's a big chunk of time, so yeah, maybe we'll get on that.
- 2:59the burgers on the way out of here.
- 3:01There's actually a nice place downstairs.
- 3:03I've talked about that.
- 3:06That's right.
- 3:07And what about you, Jimmy?
- 3:08What have you been doing?
- 3:09Not heaps.
- 3:11Bit of DJing.
- 3:13Still running my go-kart business on go-kart parts.
- 3:16Oh, right, I didn't even know that.
- 3:17Yeah, I just got this seat adjustment system to help get your balance in the cart more fun.
- 3:23I think I actually saw it.
- 3:24Did I see Derek Jones promoting that the other day?
- 3:27Yeah, one of the videos, yeah, he's done for me.
- 3:30Right, okay.
- 3:30I've got a few ads kicking around, so.
- 3:32Oh, that's pretty cool.
- 3:33Working on that and had a couple of DJ gigs, got a couple more coming up.
- 3:37So what are you DJing at?
- 3:39Where will we see you?
- 3:41What do we see you on?
- 3:43Just keeping on the socials, mate.
- 3:44You'll see.
- 3:45Yeah, right, okay.
- 3:45Yeah, I'll put a few flies out here and there.
- 3:47Yeah, right.
- 3:48That wouldn't be bad.
- 3:48You're on all clubs DJing.
- 3:50Also got some new merch coming out soon, so keep an eye out for that as well.
- 3:55DJ merch or supercars merch?
- 3:57Nah, supercars.
- 3:57Well, not supercars merch, but I'm doing my own merchandise.
- 4:01It's not going to be like generic race merch with logos and all that sort of stuff.
- 4:06It's more like artwork and stuff on it, but to do with racing.
- 4:10So keep an eye out.
- 4:10That's a beautiful little plug in there.
- 4:11That's nicely done.
- 4:12You've timed that well, haven't you?
- 4:13I know.
- 4:13Might even buy one.
- 4:14I reckon it'll be pretty cool.
- 4:16Do your mates race or?
- 4:18No, don't do it.
- 4:19We can swindle a few things.
- 4:19Oh, thanks, mate.
- 4:21Look after me.
- 4:22And, uh, myself, I've been, I raced GT on the weekend and I went terrible.
- 4:26God, I was slow.
- 4:27Um, so that was always good.
- 4:29I was just four for a weekend.
- 4:30Brenton beat me.
- 4:31And I said to him after like, you know, I could have, I reckon I could have nearly taken him out, but I said, you know, what happens if one day, you know, triple eight don't want me anymore.
- 4:40I don't want to take Brenton out.
- 4:41He won't want me then.
- 4:42So, uh, you know, but, uh, no, it was just, uh, not a good weekend of GT racing.
- 4:47And then, um, yeah.
- 4:48Was that a BOP thing or was it?
- 4:49Well, the Ferraris were just super fast.
- 4:51They were just mucking around.
- 4:53Chaz will tell you he wasn't, but he was.
- 4:54Yeah, right.
- 4:55They won both races?
- 4:56Yeah, they won both races.
- 4:58Like 15-second penalty in the last one and came second.
- 5:01Yeah, right.
- 5:02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 5:03It's just – I think the Ferraris are just extremely well balanced, like, you know, especially on the high-speed track.
- 5:09So sort of got hosed around there and just, yeah, didn't have the best weekend, but –
- 5:15And how did you go getting there?
- 5:16Yeah, yeah.
- 5:16Was that a pretty smooth sailing?
- 5:18Well, typical me, every flight I book is the day before I fly out because I'm just like, ah, things might change.
- 5:24You never know.
- 5:25You never know.
- 5:26I'm the same.
- 5:26I looked and the cheapest flight I could get was $950 to Melbourne and I was like, I'll check Webjet and just see if there's something else on that and I just put Melbourne in and...
- 5:36There was a $300 one.
- 5:36I was like, perfect, I'll book that.
- 5:38And then the next day when I woke up and started heading to Brisbane, it said, get ready for your flight to AVV or something.
- 5:45I'm like, where the fuck is this?
- 5:46And then I'm like, oh, righto.
- 5:48So I was like, so I'm going to Avalon.
- 5:50And I'm like, oh, what am I going to do here?
- 5:52So luckily my great friends at Thrifty Car Rentals, they're like, yeah, we can switch over to Avalon.
- 5:58So I landed in Avalon and drove down from there.
- 6:01But to be honest, for $600, I probably would have done it again anyway.
- 6:05Yeah, right.
- 6:06It was cheap.
- 6:06Well, what it sounded like on the thing, it looked like you were in bloody Adelaide or something like that.
- 6:12Yeah, imagine that.
- 6:12It was like the big trip and you were going to drive all night and rock up to the start of practice or something.
- 6:17Imagine that.
- 6:18I've done like an eight-hour drive to get there.
- 6:20But no, it was pretty casual and then all my flights got cancelled on the way home.
- 6:26I've had a shocking run of flights lately, I reckon.
- 6:29Yeah, right.
- 6:29It's pretty typical.
- 6:30Going back to Tassie, let's recap on Tassie.
- 6:32I reckon that's a good one.
- 6:33Can you go to get stories for us from Tassie?
- 6:36I liked mine and Randall's run-in, to be honest.
- 6:38I thought that was great.
- 6:39Yeah, it was impressive.
- 6:40You know, I thought it was good.
- 6:41How did it all start?
- 6:43I was always thinking of the hairpin when Randall got into you to start.
- 6:45Was it a new before that?
- 6:46Yeah, yeah.
- 6:47Break check, yeah.
- 6:48Yeah.
- 6:50I sort of like, I didn't have the tyre life there that I thought.
- 6:53And then Randall started catching me a bit, but I looked in my rear view going into there and I'm like, yeah, I don't really have to block this rear my normal line.
- 6:59Just copped a big whack.
- 7:00And as I copped the whack, I'm like, he's going to readdress this surely.
- 7:03And then I copped another one on the exit and then he's next to me.
- 7:05And I was sort of like, nah, not happening.
- 7:08So I went hard left, got the go-kart, pushing up against side him.
- 7:11You know how they, if you get them first, they can't push you and move you the other way.
- 7:15So I was like, this is good.
- 7:17And then we're going down the straight and I'm like, oh, well, he's,
- 7:19going to keep on going on with it here.
- 7:21He's not going to just sort of, you know, what can you do where you let him back pass and you don't get a penalty?
- 7:26What's that called again?
- 7:27Redress.
- 7:27I thought he might readdress and he didn't.
- 7:30So down into six, I just sort of popped him behind, a little bump.
- 7:32And then he tried going around the outside at seven, but I think everyone knows that that doesn't really work.
- 7:38Yeah, Andre have tried that once and it didn't happen.
- 7:40Yeah, yeah.
- 7:40Yeah, yeah.
- 7:41And later in the race, it's a lot of marbles.
- 7:43Yeah, I think he was a passenger.
- 7:45Yeah, I didn't even really touch him and he just kept exiting.
- 7:49And then obviously from there, I think if you slid on those super softs on the weekend, like I just dropped heaps of time.
- 7:55It was like after I think Brock passed you and we were looking at your trend, you just really went off.
- 8:00After that?
- 8:01Yeah, I hit a wall.
- 8:02I first second safety car, rear tyres.
- 8:03I don't know.
- 8:04Don't know what happened.
- 8:04Yeah.
- 8:05Had a meltdown and then everyone sort of equalised again and it's sort of like I thought I was just going back to last.
- 8:09Like I thought, oh no, this is going to be the last 33 laps home.
- 8:12Tommy's like, yeah, 33 to go, mate.
- 8:13And I'm like, this is a long way to go.
- 8:15Yeah, I know.
- 8:15So that's pretty much what happened to me.
- 8:17And I thought I could cool the tyres back down, put a few blocks on Brock and then Tom came in and took him out.
- 8:24Ruined the fun.
- 8:25Yeah.
- 8:26So it wasn't much fun.
- 8:27But did you guys have any fun down there?
- 8:30I don't think you'll have a straight panel on my car, actually.
- 8:32So, yeah, I was shocking.
- 8:34I was at that Barry on Saturday qualifying P last, locked the brake, and even Tommy Moore read me up about it.
- 8:41So two stuff ups in about two laps.
- 8:43Yeah, I was quite interested there because I think practice, you're like top five, and then quality, you're last.
- 8:49And I was like, and obviously Tom's my old engineer as well.
- 8:51I always talk to him.
- 8:52I'm like, mate, what are you guys doing?
- 8:53Yeah, it was all Tom's fault.
- 8:54I qualified 15th anyway, so he said, what are you doing?
- 8:58So...
- 8:58Yeah, exactly.
- 9:00All Tom's fault?
- 9:01Yeah, it was all Tom's fault.
- 9:02Yeah, like I hit that brake pedal.
- 9:03I don't know what happened.
- 9:04I hit favour like overnight.
- 9:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 9:07As soon as I hit that brake pedal, it just locks.
- 9:09So I don't know what happened.
- 9:09It's definitely not my fault because we put ABS in our car.
- 9:12So I don't know what you guys have got.
- 9:15What do you reckon?
- 9:15Who got you the best?
- 9:16Did anyone hit you and you were like, that was a decent one on the weekend down there?
- 9:20Oh, it was a couple.
- 9:22JC, I don't know what.
- 9:23He was getting into me pretty hard.
- 9:24So we ran into each other a couple of times for some reason.
- 9:27You're not surprised by that, are you?
- 9:28No, not really.
- 9:29So, yeah, don't know.
- 9:30And then, but yeah, anyway, that was about it really.
- 9:33And then old Jackson Evans turned me around, but that was all right.
- 9:35So my day was done by then.
- 9:36That's what happens when you qualify 22nd.
- 9:37That was all right.
- 9:39Yeah.
- 9:41I got a bit of a touch-up from Woody, actually.
- 9:42Did you?
- 9:43Woody.
- 9:43I got a big run.
- 9:43Big dog Woody got you.
- 9:44I don't know who it was.
- 9:47A couple come together and I basically went up the inside of the last corner and was going to get free at once.
- 9:52And then I've got halfway up the outside of Woody around at one and he's just hit me in the right ring and I've just done the full, like, correction to save it down to first and I just couldn't stop and go enough to stop him getting back up the inside.
- 10:05So it was going to be the Hail Mary, three at once, but it didn't work out.
- 10:08Who do you think is just – which drivers do you come up on and you just think, this guy just – I don't even want to race him.
- 10:16Oh, I can't say it.
- 10:16He's in this room, so I'm not going to say it.
- 10:18Yeah.
- 10:18Yeah, that's right.
- 10:19Any time?
- 10:21Love them.
- 10:21I hate coming up on Chaz and Cam.
- 10:23I'm just like, here we go.
- 10:25These two, far out.
- 10:27Someone's got to do it.
- 10:29Aaron loves spin on Saturday.
- 10:31That was hairy.
- 10:32That was hairy.
- 10:33Back into the track and in front of everyone, I got a bit worried there.
- 10:36I don't know what he could have done better in that situation, to be honest.
- 10:39Like, you don't want to go forward because you're going to get bogged, you're thinking.
- 10:42And to be honest, there was a lot of people that stayed fair up at last corner.
- 10:48It was practice, wasn't it?
- 10:50Yeah, practice, yeah.
- 10:51Single wave yellows, that's like a green flag to me.
- 10:54I'm sure everyone else is the same.
- 10:56That could be a double wave green to me.
- 10:58But double wave yellows, you generally know someone's on the track, like double wave, and they were there.
- 11:03So I was quite surprised that everyone, you know, I understand, I guess people weren't happy, but what do you reckon?
- 11:10Double wave yellows?
- 11:11Yeah, I don't know.
- 11:11We all slide down.
- 11:12I don't get around and avoided it.
- 11:13But it's a weird spot through there.
- 11:15It's so tight.
- 11:16It's funny.
- 11:16Like, every time you go down there, you do your track wall.
- 11:18You forget how tight and narrow that joint is.
- 11:20So, especially going down to turn four and stuff like that.
- 11:22It's hard to do, really.
- 11:23Yeah, yeah.
- 11:24That's right.
- 11:24Years ago, that happened there.
- 11:25But, yeah, like I say, I don't know what else you could have really done.
- 11:27Like, drive forward, you're probably just going to do a 14-point turn, trying to turn the thing around in the grass.
- 11:32But...
- 11:32No, I don't think it was too bad.
- 11:33He did a good job actually keeping it off the fence there.
- 11:35Yeah.
- 11:35How bad was that last corner, hey?
- 11:37Yeah, yeah.
- 11:37Come around there trying to stay as close to the curb.
- 11:39If you clip the curb in the wet, it'd spit you sideways.
- 11:43But if you went too wide, it was like you could see where you'd aquaplane.
- 11:46It was so wet on the outside.
- 11:47Yeah, especially after that first red flag went back out.
- 11:49It was like the train tracks had disappeared.
- 11:51And it was just like, yeah, righto.
- 11:52Yeah.
- 11:53Well, that's what I said to the boys.
- 11:54There's no point rolling out the front of the queue because I just get the wettest track.
- 11:57Yeah.
- 11:58And it took ages for that to dry up.
- 11:59Yeah, yeah.
- 12:00It took a couple of laps, didn't
- 12:02What about the other thing with Aaron Love?
- 12:04What about him and Jackson Evans?
- 12:06That was a pretty big shunt on the Sunday.
- 12:07Yeah, poor BGR boys.
- 12:09Yeah.
- 12:09Whose fault do you reckon that was?
- 12:11Come on, throw a bit of shade here.
- 12:13Well, if there's overlap, you've got to allow a car to the edge of the track.
- 12:15Yeah.
- 12:16But do you reckon he even knew he was there?
- 12:19You'd have to look at the noise when you...
- 12:21I'm not going to comment on it.
- 12:22Yeah.
- 12:23Come on, mate.
- 12:23Get a moment.
- 12:24Come on, get into it.
- 12:26Well, if you've seen him, then he's in the wrong.
- 12:28If you didn't see him, then...
- 12:30A fair bit of a play, though.
- 12:31Well, it's unlucky for Jackson regardless.
- 12:33Yeah, yeah.
- 12:34A lot of other cars went through there, though, over the weekend doing that and survived it.
- 12:38Yeah, I feel like that's a tough move no matter what, even if you're trying to pass around the outside, so inside for turn two, that's always...
- 12:43It works, but it's always dicey, isn't it?
- 12:46Yeah, you've got to have a broken point again.
- 12:47When I got that run on Woody, I was mindful of it, but I was like half a car ahead.
- 12:51I'm like, surely I can hold on to this, and he's just...
- 12:55Yeah, yeah.
- 12:56No, I thought that was a pretty decent shunt.
- 12:59That was definitely the biggest one of the weekend.
- 13:01That did a fair bit of damage to that car.
- 13:03Yeah, for not much of an actual incident.
- 13:06So what's your thoughts on the format for QALY down there?
- 13:09Oh, I hated it because it got me good on Saturday, so not a fan.
- 13:13Not a fan, yeah.
- 13:15I never like it, to be honest, because I think anyone that's quick –
- 13:20that knows they're confident they can get in or whatever, they just get more of an advantage by using less tires.
- 13:25Because they have green tires for the last one.
- 13:27Well, look at Perk out there.
- 13:29Like, quick all weekend and they roll the dice on a new set of tires and Q1 on Sunday and end up P24.
- 13:36See, Brock and his engineer talked about doing that, running one set, but I thought it was too risky.
- 13:39Like, they didn't end up doing it, but I thought the times are too close around there.
- 13:43Yeah.
- 13:44I think that track probably wasn't as bad, but a lot of the other tracks we go to run at three part, you definitely...
- 13:51Unless you know you can make it easily, you can't afford not to run the extra set, but then you don't have any tyres for the end of it, so you're never going to be on the front row.
- 14:00Yeah, don't mind those three parts.
- 14:01If you've got an extra set up your sleeve, and it's good for people who are sort of out of position and make it through to Q3, they get another set of tyres and it's sort of more of a spectacle.
- 14:09If you get to the end, I think it was Darwin this year.
- 14:11Oh, we had the two-part or something, and then Cooper, like he made the shootout and didn't have a green set of tyres, so never got to have a run at it.
- 14:17I think it was a couple of guys up there that didn't have a green set.
- 14:19Yeah.
- 14:20I just like to see quality and everyone's got green sets to throw at it.
- 14:22Yeah.
- 14:23What's your ideal format then?
- 14:24Just quality, then a top-ten shootout, you reckon?
- 14:27Well, if they gave us one extra set, then it would solve it, wouldn't it?
- 14:31Well, we did that earlier in the year somewhere.
- 14:33We had an extra set somewhere.
- 14:34Wouldn't it?
- 14:34Not really because they're saying that you should only use one set for each quali.
- 14:37So some people bank on using two sets in Q1.2, say, the second one to get through to the top ten.
- 14:44But then if you're using two sets to make sure you get through, then you don't have a set for the final one.
- 14:50But, yeah, I just like quali and then shootouts.
- 14:53Shootouts are awesome.
- 14:54Yeah, okay.
- 14:54Just get it done.
- 14:55You don't do that.
- 14:56And also, to be honest, the extra practices I'm not a fan of.
- 15:01No, no.
- 15:01I just think like... No, Sunday morning practice.
- 15:02Practicing on a weekend where you've already... Or even on a Saturday.
- 15:05You've already qualified and...
- 15:07I used to like doing the extra race, don't you reckon?
- 15:10Yeah.
- 15:11Yeah.
- 15:11Even some of the other ones where we've had practices after like a race and that.
- 15:16It's like...
- 15:17What's going on there?
- 15:18Yeah.
- 15:19Well, Sunday, so I saved.
- 15:20So I actually had four sets of tyres for Sunday's quali of greens because I didn't use them in the race the day before.
- 15:26So then in practice on Sunday, I only had my race tyres.
- 15:30So I was 20th.
- 15:31Yeah.
- 15:31I was like, oh, the car's terrible.
- 15:34And then I rolled out and had four sets of tyres and qualified fourth.
- 15:36But we did all that.
- 15:37Like I would have, if I could go back, I wouldn't have even gone out in that practice.
- 15:41Like I don't think I learnt anything.
- 15:43It just got you used to driving on a bike.
- 15:45Average tyre.
- 15:46That's right.
- 15:46And then I had qualifying.
- 15:47So I said to Andrew after it, I would have rather just do pit stops or not go out and keep those four sets of tyres for quali because that practice was pretty much pointless.
- 15:57Yeah.
- 15:57It's a bit weird though how we didn't get any of those practice tyres brought forward.
- 16:01Yeah.
- 16:02Yeah.
- 16:03A bit of a strange one.
- 16:05So anyway, we'll look forward to stand down.
- 16:07We're there on Tesson.
- 16:08You guys will be next Monday.
- 16:09Yeah.
- 16:11Yeah, no, we actually changed it for Campbell Little's funeral.
- 16:14So we were Monday.
- 16:15So we're going to go, 888's going to change it to Tuesday so that a few of us can go to that.
- 16:21But, yeah, it'll be, I don't know.
- 16:24I'm not a big test day lover, hey?
- 16:27No.
- 16:27I don't know what it is.
- 16:28I'm sure some drivers love it.
- 16:30We don't even have one, so.
- 16:31Don't you?
- 16:32What, you're not testing for sand down?
- 16:34No.
- 16:35Really?
- 16:35What, have you already done it?
- 16:38No, we've still got one left.
- 16:40We're doing it after.
- 16:41That's weird.
- 16:42Yeah, it is weird.
- 16:43So what, you guys just practice your co-driver changes at the workshop and roll up to Sandown?
- 16:48Yep.
- 16:48What about your co-drivers?
- 16:49Who's your co-drivers?
- 16:51D-Russ and McLeod.
- 16:55Cammy did the evaluation day.
- 16:58That seems weird because... Well, you can do an evaluation day and have a test day still.
- 17:02I don't know if that was a...
- 17:03Well, evaluation days, you're evaluating a driver.
- 17:08I think you can do an evaluation day if they've never been a co- There's some weird thing to it if he hasn't been a co-driver or something.
- 17:15Yeah, in the past five years.
- 17:17You can't throw a co-driver an evaluation day for Jamie Wincup or something like that.
- 17:22Nah.
- 17:22He's still a rookie though, isn't he?
- 17:24Yeah, yeah, well, that's right.
- 17:25No, I think it's a spooky day.
- 17:26Oh, far out.
- 17:26He's fast.
- 17:27I'll tell you what.
- 17:28At the test day, you've got to be on your toes as a main driver when he's around.
- 17:32Who've got with you?
- 17:33I've got Scott Pye with me.
- 17:35Oh, yeah, Scotty.
- 17:35A famous podcaster.
- 17:36Yeah, yeah, that's right.
- 17:37He'd be good at hosting this.
- 17:38That's maybe who we need.
- 17:39Yeah, that's right.
- 17:41No, I reckon he'll be strong.
- 17:42He was always so, I don't know, I always found Scott really strong in race pace.
- 17:46You know what I mean?
- 17:47Like he was probably one of those guys that used to sometimes struggle a little bit in qualifying here and there or car wasn't up to it and then would drive through in a race.
- 17:54Yeah, he'd always drive through.
- 17:55Yeah, he was always quick at Bathurst as well.
- 17:56Yeah, quick at Bathurst, always on the podium there.
- 17:59So hopefully I don't let him down there.
- 18:01But yeah.
- 18:02No, but he'll be an awesome co-driver.
- 18:04Triple A do a good job, or Red Bull Ampour do a good job of choosing their co-drivers generally like that.
- 18:10But, yeah, that's a bit of a surprise, not having a test.
- 18:14I thought you'd want to give your co-drivers as many laps as you can before sand down.
- 18:17I don't know why.
- 18:18They're that good they don't need it, apparently.
- 18:20If you guys go out and win sand down, that's going to be the new going craze.
- 18:24So there you go.
- 18:25You'll have to give it a go.
- 18:26Right there first.
- 18:26So what do you reckon?
- 18:28Year so far, mate, you'd be pretty happy, wouldn't you?
- 18:31Oh...
- 18:32If you told me I'd got so...
- 18:33I only laid in the championship.
- 18:34Yeah.
- 18:35Oh, yeah.
- 18:35No, but we had such a bit last year.
- 18:37You know what I mean?
- 18:38Like last year I was in the similar position as I am now.
- 18:42What's the difference at this point compared to last year?
- 18:44Well, last year... See, these are the differences.
- 18:47I think last year at this point I'd won five races but got like...
- 18:52nine podiums where this year I've won three races and got 14 podiums.
- 18:57But I feel like, I feel like last year I actually was, and there was stuff going on with parody and all that, but I feel like last year I had more chance to win more races where this year the competitiveness has been, there's always someone different out there.
- 19:11It's really hard.
- 19:11Like I can get a podium, but trying to get that extra bit each weekend to get a win, you know, like if you told me I had three wins by the eighth round, I probably would have been like, oh, that's not bad, but the podiums sound great.
- 19:21Like I'm happy with how good the podiums have been.
- 19:24But, yeah, it's a tough one to get wins lately.
- 19:26Like there's people every weekend popping it up, like Randall on the weekend.
- 19:30He was really fast, but every weekend there's different people.
- 19:34Yourself at Townsville, there's just all, every weekend there's different people up the front, I find.
- 19:40Yeah, it's been good.
- 19:41I can't believe how close it was.
- 19:42Sunday quality, like Q3, is like 0.16 or something, like top 10.
- 19:45Yeah.
- 19:46That's crazy.
- 19:46So, yeah.
- 19:48It's awesome to see how close it is.
- 19:49It's got to be at the right end of it.
- 19:51Yeah, exactly.
- 19:52What do you reckon?
- 19:52Obviously, you've had a big switch.
- 19:54We did the old, you've gone to Erebus, I've come across here.
- 19:56But what's your year been like?
- 19:58Like, it's obviously...
- 20:00Yeah, it's been good, eh?
- 20:01Yeah, like it's just trying to work out this, I suppose, how everybody's going to set another car.
- 20:06Like another engineer, like I think everyone would probably say, like you change engineers, it's a different world.
- 20:11You've got to try and understand their language and try and get the most out of it.
- 20:14So, yeah, it's been going right, though.
- 20:16We're getting through it, trying to learn a fair bit, and I think it's...
- 20:19Yeah, it's been interesting.
- 20:20It's one of those things like everyone stepped up this year.
- 20:23I think everyone up and down pit lane is taking a step forward.
- 20:25Every team is doing a better job.
- 20:26And, yeah, that marker has moved forward.
- 20:28So I think if you sit on your hands, you're just going to fall further behind.
- 20:33Yeah, exactly.
- 20:34It's been good.
- 20:34It's good to see.
- 20:35So it's going to be pretty cool, especially at Bathurst.
- 20:37You guys were stupidly fast at Bathurst at the start of the year.
- 20:40So hopefully the rest of us will caught up a little bit.
- 20:43I feel like people have this year.
- 20:45Yeah.
- 20:45We came out and it sort of...
- 20:48Second round, people are like, oh, you guys got the championship, like joking around.
- 20:52And it's like, oh, people will catch up.
- 20:53But it's happened and it's very competitive now.
- 20:56So I reckon Bathurst will be a tight one.
- 20:58Yeah.
- 20:59Yeah, it's going to be good, eh?
- 21:00What time are we on there?
- 21:01Yeah, I was just about to ask.
- 21:02Hard.
- 21:03Hard?
- 21:04Yeah.
- 21:04Really?
- 21:05Are you sure?
- 21:05Hard.
- 21:06That's what we were at the start of the year.
- 21:07Yeah, yeah.
- 21:07Yeah, right.
- 21:08I'm going to be sad about that.
- 21:10We'll phone a friend.
- 21:11Yeah.
- 21:11Who can we call?
- 21:13What do you reckon about your year?
- 21:15Oh, we've definitely had some good things early on, but just...
- 21:19Recently probably dropped off a bit more.
- 21:22Overall the year I think, you know, we made a lot of changes internally from last year.
- 21:27There's probably a lot of things being tidied up, which we probably lost a bit of progression.
- 21:32Yep.
- 21:32And, you know, there's probably a bit of a knock-on effect from that.
- 21:36So, you know, while other teams have probably been moving forward we've probably had to tidy a few things up maybe, flat-lined a bit and then...
- 21:42Yeah, like I can see internally within the team, things have been improved dramatically.
- 21:47Like it's chalk and cheese.
- 21:48But results, you know, we've been a bit inconsistent.
- 21:53We've had a lot of...
- 21:55mistakes and things go wrong within the team.
- 21:58And Tim's had a pretty unlucky run.
- 22:00So championship points-wise as a team, we've been struggling a bit.
- 22:04But, yeah, I've been pretty happy overall with my part of it.
- 22:09But just, yeah, want to make that last jump to be further up the front.
- 22:13How often, like...
- 22:15Something just small goes wrong on a race weekend, like the red flag came out, I qualified 15th.
- 22:19People put more emphasis on it because I'm leading the championship.
- 22:22But how often does that happen to someone like in your position and then you qualify 15th when you should have been fifth and then you don't have that good of a weekend, but really there's one little thing that might have been the difference.
- 22:32And no one knows about it.
- 22:33Yeah, no one knows about it.
- 22:33And then you look back on all those races like, oh, that's not very good, that's not very good.
- 22:36Actually, that one where this happened and we could have been here.
- 22:39Yeah.
- 22:40There's so much of that that goes on in the year.
- 22:41And I find it's about how you run your sessions as well.
- 22:44Like sometimes you just stuff it up that little bit.
- 22:46You know, you don't run at the end when the track's fast or something like that.
- 22:50And it just changes the position so much.
- 22:53But what about, I reckon because I'm not involved in this year's silly season, I want to talk about that.
- 22:59So I'm not, where do you reckon your teammates going, Jack?
- 23:02Oh, I've got no idea.
- 23:03Where is he going?
- 23:04Well, I do talk to him a lot, obviously, on Friends.
- 23:07So you probably know where he's going.
- 23:08No, he's keeping it close to his chest.
- 23:09Is he really?
- 23:10Well, I feel like there's two options out there.
- 23:13Everyone can see that.
- 23:14That's got to be Premier and DJR from what I can see or what I hear.
- 23:19But I don't know.
- 23:20I'm not sure.
- 23:21Yeah, someone's saying Tazia's seat at Team 18 and BJ's as well.
- 23:26So I said there's a seat there.
- 23:27But I don't know who it would be.
- 23:29I thought Andre and forward.
- 23:31we're on.
- 23:32I thought Andre's had a long-term deal, but not sure.
- 23:35We all know how they go, though.
- 23:36Yeah, that's right.
- 23:38Yeah, yeah.
- 23:39Don't look at me.
- 23:39Yeah, I don't know.
- 23:42I'm not sure.
- 23:43It's good to not be involved in it, though.
- 23:45Yeah, it is good.
- 23:46It's always nice, like, not – and I find, like, one-year deals, like, even for poor old Richie, like –
- 23:52I feel, you know, it's fair enough.
- 23:55I'm sure maybe he hasn't had the performance that the team's wanted straight up, but you think when did they obviously make the decision to get Kai?
- 24:02Maybe June.
- 24:03So he started with them first race February.
- 24:05He's had four months, five months to prove himself.
- 24:07Yeah, it's not much, is it?
- 24:08Like one-year deals for someone who's coming back or someone trying to join a team.
- 24:13If you don't hit the ground running within like, I don't know, three rounds.
- 24:17And have everything around you to do it as well.
- 24:19Yeah, that's right.
- 24:20Like you're saying with the engineer thing.
- 24:22It's not like, it's way too competitive to just think it's all just going to fall in place.
- 24:26Yeah, 100%.
- 24:28So he's done four rounds, five rounds by the time that he's got the axe and they've put someone else in.
- 24:34So I don't know, as a driver, I always reckon two-year deal nearly needs to be a minimum because you sign it, you do the first year and then six months or four months, five months into the second season, you're already talking about a new contract.
- 24:45So it doesn't go for very long, does it?
- 24:47No, 100%.
- 24:48It's never much fun to talk about.
- 24:50Trying to go racing and stuff like that and you're worrying about what you're doing next year and stuff like that.
- 24:54It's always hard work.
- 24:56I find that anyway.
- 24:57It's never good.
- 24:58Motorsport's a massive mental game, so if you haven't got that on your mind, it's always nicer.
- 25:02But yeah, it's never much fun.
- 25:05So this has been a big asking point for me that I don't know what happens here.
- 25:09But if Brodie was to go to DJs, who do you think they'd keep?
- 25:13There's so many rumours around this and I honestly have no idea.
- 25:17But I don't know.
- 25:19I just, I'm not sure.
- 25:20Three-car team, who to hit first?
- 25:22I wouldn't have a clue.
- 25:22I don't know.
- 25:23I don't even know what, like, I literally don't look at any news articles or anything.
- 25:29This sort of stuff interests me for some reason.
- 25:30Mate, you're just telling us to get on Instagram and Facebook to keep up with your DJing career.
- 25:33Yeah, that's got nothing to do with supercars news.
- 25:38I don't know.
- 25:38That's a tough one.
- 25:39Yeah, I know.
- 25:40We've both been doing a pretty good job, I think.
- 25:41I just feel like.
- 25:43I don't know.
- 25:44It's probably not the right thing to say, but I like them both, Anton and Will, but I feel like Anton's still young.
- 25:49I think they both do the same job.
- 25:51Anton's got a long career ahead of himself, ahead of him.
- 25:55I can't see why you'd get rid of him.
- 25:58No.
- 25:58I can't imagine unless there's something like he wants a lot of money or what, why, if Brodie goes there, why Davison would stay and Anton goes, it doesn't really make sense to me.
- 26:11Will does an awesome job.
- 26:12Yeah, I understand.
- 26:13I think he does a great job, but I'm just like from that side, I don't really understand it.
- 26:17Yeah, definitely.
- 26:17Well, it gives me hope.
- 26:18And Will, what is he, 41, 42?
- 26:20I think he's – I think JC is 44, isn't he?
- 26:24JC – I'm sorry, JC.
- 26:26Will, 41?
- 26:28Google.
- 26:28Who's on Google?
- 26:29What I'm saying is you're saying it gives you hope.
- 26:32Yeah, that's right.
- 26:34I've got half a chance.
- 26:35So a hack like me, mate, I could make it to maybe 36 or 37.
- 26:38So I'll be all in slow by then.
- 26:40Keep my weight under control by then.
- 26:41I reckon I'll be bald putting a bit of weight on.
- 26:45If you do any more NASCAR races, you might struggle.
- 26:47Yeah, yeah.
- 26:49That's it.
- 26:50So 40, Will Davison's 41.
- 26:52Yeah.
- 26:53And Courtney, I think, is about 44.
- 26:55So people are going...
- 26:57You know?
- 26:58That's pushing.
- 26:58Mid-40s.
- 26:59I reckon Davo's got better since he's had a kid as well.
- 27:01So that's like giving me hope, like with a kid on the way in November.
- 27:04So everyone says like you lose two attempts when you have one come along.
- 27:07But I reckon Davo's gained two.
- 27:08So, you know, you watch out, guys.
- 27:09Next year I'm on.
- 27:10Davo does such a good job.
- 27:11You're not probably twins.
- 27:12You wouldn't talk about getting rid of Davo really unless he's aged.
- 27:16Like, you know what I mean?
- 27:16Yeah, I'll try.
- 27:17Yeah.
- 27:17He would take age out of it.
- 27:18He's doing a good job.
- 27:19He took age out of it and that.
- 27:20But, yeah.
- 27:21What's like Fernando, like Alonso?
- 27:22Look at him, like an F1.
- 27:24What's he, same, similar scenario?
- 27:25Yeah, that's right.
- 27:2640, he's doing a good job.
- 27:28Yeah, it's interesting.
- 27:29I'm keen to see what plays out with the driver market.
- 27:32And I don't know, there might be some curveballs.
- 27:35Not sure.
- 27:43All right, we've got some mail in here, boys.
- 27:46Let's see what questions we've got.
- 27:48I might just make up a question in my head and pretend it's not.
- 27:52It's no good.
- 27:53All right, Luke, which of the Super 2 drivers will be the one to watch in the Enduros?
- 28:00Oh, in the Enduros?
- 28:01Well, Kai's got to obviously be someone.
- 28:04Is he DJ's this year?
- 28:06Yeah, he's DJ's this year.
- 28:09So Kai, I feel like you've got a... How many Super 2 guys are doing it?
- 28:13Kai, Ken, McLeod?
- 28:15Who else?
- 28:16Cooper's doing your wild card.
- 28:17Cooper's doing the wild card, yes.
- 28:18Is he qualifying or who qualifies?
- 28:20Yeah, he qualifies.
- 28:21He's qualifying.
- 28:22So that's a pretty big thing with Super 2 guys.
- 28:24Yeah, that'll be pretty good to watch.
- 28:25Yeah, that'll be pretty cool to see how he goes with that.
- 28:27Obviously, Sandown and Bathurst qualifying.
- 28:30It'll sort of...
- 28:31I know he's linked to, obviously, Erebus Seed, I think they were saying.
- 28:35So in the thing.
- 28:36He's up with all the gossip.
- 28:38He's got it all, doesn't he?
- 28:39He's got a good source.
- 28:40I've been watching it.
- 28:41Well, I just have to read Speed Cafe.
- 28:43It's not that hard.
- 28:44But, yeah, I don't know.
- 28:45I reckon that...
- 28:46It'll be interesting.
- 28:47I'm interested to see how Cooper and Kai fare up against each other.
- 28:50Yeah, yeah, definitely.
- 28:51Like in co-driving, stuff like that.
- 28:53Yeah, they're very similar.
- 28:55And I suppose the championship points are a bit different in Dunlop series between the two of them.
- 28:59But the speed, they're always like one or the other sort of thing.
- 29:02A little similar.
- 29:02Yeah, yeah, they try it.
- 29:03Next one for Will from Lizzie.
- 29:07Why did Will specifically name his car Ronda?
- 29:10Ronda.
- 29:12I don't know if I can answer that one.
- 29:15It's not to actually do with me.
- 29:17It's to do with a team member, but I don't want to out them, so I'm not going to out them.
- 29:21We're in a second place here.
- 29:23Make up something funny.
- 29:23Nothing in this room leaves.
- 29:25Make up something funny.
- 29:26Well, it was Friday night on about one.
- 29:28No, I'm joking.
- 29:28I thought we were on there.
- 29:31Yeah.
- 29:31I thought you were going to open up, you know.
- 29:33Might be able to cut it out.
- 29:35All right, Caitlin wants to know, Will again, what was your favourite memory from Taupo?
- 29:42That was my first Supercars race.
- 29:44Oh, had to be the battle with Brock.
- 29:46That was the first time we're really allowed to battle.
- 29:48Yeah, that was pretty good actually.
- 29:49Yeah, good going.
- 29:50That was good.
- 29:51And I don't know, even if I didn't get him, I still would have been pretty pumped with the battle because, like, I was trying to get around him.
- 29:58And, like, so much harder when it's your teammate.
- 30:00Someone else, you just keep running into him, you know, a bit and you get him a bit flustered and that.
- 30:03But I wasn't allowed to hit him.
- 30:05So you're like, actually, how do I do this clean?
- 30:09We'll give him a little one.
- 30:11Yeah, that's right.
- 30:12So that was definitely the highlight there, but also the track to town because they don't care over there.
- 30:18Everyone was doing burnouts.
- 30:19It was wild.
- 30:20I remember I put my seatbelts on because I came out on the highway with the cop car behind me, did a drift onto the highway with the cop car behind me, and they're filming, and then I was cruising down the street, and I'm like, I thought we had to do like 30, so I didn't even have my seatbelts on.
- 30:32Mate, I thought I was going to race.
- 30:33Yeah.
- 30:35Me too.
- 30:35I was worried if it'd get about dropping out of the toe.
- 30:38Yeah, I put my seatbelts on.
- 30:41I remember I was getting like, we must have been doing like 160, 170 at some stage and like the car, like on wets, it starts moving around a bit.
- 30:48What about Courtney's rear wheels?
- 30:51I reckon they were going a bit quicker than that.
- 30:54See, I reckon that's so smart by Courtney because, like, you know, they haven't been running that well.
- 31:00The amount of media they got out of him just doing some burnouts and posting it online, I think that more teams should do that sort of stuff.
- 31:06I thought it was awesome.
- 31:07Yeah, have it ever did.
- 31:08It's good to see, though.
- 31:09The crowd was unreal.
- 31:10Oh, yeah.
- 31:10They had a turnout there.
- 31:11But the whole way into town, it was amazing.
- 31:13Oh, it was great.
- 31:14So good to see.
- 31:15Adam has got a good one.
- 31:16If you could bring back one Australian track that no longer exists, which one would you pick?
- 31:22Iron Park.
- 31:22Iron Park.
- 31:23I never got to race there.
- 31:24Yeah, Oregon Park.
- 31:25But it'll be pretty soon.
- 31:26I actually reckon... Oh.
- 31:29I raced around there in a go-kart, actually.
- 31:30Yeah.
- 31:31They cut the track down, but it was pretty cool.
- 31:32The only one I raced on that I reckon was pretty cool and I raced in 86s was Homebush.
- 31:37Yeah.
- 31:37I thought Homebush was pretty cool.
- 31:39I raced Super 2 there.
- 31:40You know, bring back... Street tracks are cool, eh?
- 31:42Like, if you brought back...
- 31:43It was good in Super 2?
- 31:44But that was probably...
- 31:46Oh, Newcastle was pretty up there, but pretty gnarly-like.
- 31:49Yeah.
- 31:49It just felt a lot more dangerous than the other two.
- 31:52Yeah, yeah.
- 31:53At least homebush you could actually race.
- 31:54Like, you could actually get some, like, passing stuff done there.
- 31:56But it was tight.
- 31:57Like, roller coaster and stuff.
- 31:58I ran in an 86, and, like, thinking back to now, it was tight in an 86.
- 32:03Imagine you're doing nearly double, or not double the speed, but, you know, you're doing a lot faster in a supercar.
- 32:08Yeah.
- 32:08It would have been wild around there.
- 32:09Yeah, it was good fun.
- 32:10I ran in the curve at turn two.
- 32:11That was quite sharp and steep, and the firebomb triggered off.
- 32:16I hit the left front, like, yeah, set the fireball off.
- 32:18So it was pretty cool going through turn two, three.
- 32:21Isn't that the famous place?
- 32:22Oh, he's in the fence.
- 32:23Oh, they're all in the fence.
- 32:25Yeah, that's a famous one.
- 32:27Probably the best race ever.
- 32:28Oh, that's a good one.
- 32:29Do we have any others or no more fan mail?
- 32:32I'll see what else I can whip up, mate.
- 32:34I've just made all these up.
- 32:37From Seth, are any of you guys interested in driving a sprint car?
- 32:41Have you ever sat in one?
- 32:43I've sat in one, yeah.
- 32:44It doesn't feel safe.
- 32:45I've driven one, yeah.
- 32:48Worth doing?
- 32:48One of my good sponsors, Sean Dyson, he runs Carson Macedo and I think he ran Kyle Larson back in the day and that, so he runs them all the time and he wouldn't let me have a run in it and far out, the next level.
- 33:01I was like, and it took me so long...
- 33:03A bit scary though.
- 33:04Scary, yeah.
- 33:05But because I didn't get the scare factor of I guess a lot of people just hop in and go flat straight out the pit like and wheeling them or that.
- 33:11I didn't do that.
- 33:12I sort of built up.
- 33:13But by the end I was going all right.
- 33:14But it took so long to get used to how much aero those wings had.
- 33:17Like you just tipped it into the corner flat.
- 33:19It was flat around Sydney.
- 33:20Like at the start I felt like I was on the max of the grip level doing like –
- 33:24you know, probably not flat, like 80% throttle, but just the amount of grip you build up from the wing as you get going faster, you could pretty much go flat.
- 33:34So, but they're so weird.
- 33:35Like you just.
- 33:36It was almost like it was more controlled when you went faster.
- 33:39Yeah.
- 33:39You have to go faster to feel more controlled, but like you just sit in there.
- 33:43But I don't know if my helmet was too small, but they vibrate so much, are too big, but they vibrate so much that I could, I did like eight laps and I was worn out and, you know,
- 33:53I couldn't see and I don't know if it was because my helmet was vibrating or what, but like it was just so fast.
- 33:57But I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm going to tip it in and run the high line and I'd end up like on the low or medium line or something.
- 34:03I was like, how did I get here?
- 34:04Like, you know what I mean?
- 34:05I just couldn't get it where I wanted.
- 34:07Like I could do the laps, but it took a while.
- 34:10I did three sessions and got a lot better towards the end.
- 34:12Would you do a race?
- 34:14Oh, I've thought about this.
- 34:15Sean's pretty keen to do a race, but I reckon I'd want to do another one or two practice days because the thing I'm not worried about, I could sort of get the speed.
- 34:23I wasn't fast, but I wasn't slow, but it's trying to position it around cars around you.
- 34:29When you can't put it where you want, I feel like I'll run into someone or do something stupid.
- 34:33Yeah, especially when you look at the inside wheels just doing the same thing and things just flopping in the breeze.
- 34:37Like, is that still connected?
- 34:38Yeah, that's right.
- 34:39I reckon Adelaide will be cool.
- 34:41Like, you know, I'm...
- 34:43Oh, how they got in the precinct?
- 34:44Well, yeah, just like all these events where they're doing, where they're doing like, you know, bigger things.
- 34:50Like Gold Coast, you know, Peter Ways with Boost puts on a massive thing.
- 34:53But Adelaide this year with like the, what, the Supercross is there, the Speedway, you know, Stating Supertrucks.
- 35:01Yeah, yeah.
- 35:02Like that's going to be a massive, a massive round.
- 35:05Yeah, it's going to be cool, isn't it?
- 35:06Yeah.
- 35:06Hang on for it.
- 35:08Be mega.
- 35:09Be interesting.
- 35:09What do you reckon for Sandown, boys?
- 35:11Who's going to win it?
- 35:12Oh.
- 35:14Well, I'd like to hope.
- 35:15Do you reckon it'll be wet?
- 35:17I don't know.
- 35:18It's been nice in it at the moment, though, the weather.
- 35:20I don't know.
- 35:21I'm trying to think who...
- 35:24Yeah, who's the – you know, Cam Waters always runs well there.
- 35:27Yeah, he's always good there.
- 35:28I feel like he always does a good job.
- 35:29I think they've gone on top of their tyre life a little bit.
- 35:32Like Sydney, he did the one-stopper, and I thought we had good tyre life.
- 35:36I couldn't catch him.
- 35:37He was probably pulling away a little bit at the end.
- 35:40Cam was quick on Sunday in Tassie.
- 35:41I feel like Cam's one to watch.
- 35:44Has he got Muff with him again?
- 35:45Yeah.
- 35:46Has he still got Muffy?
- 35:46Yeah.
- 35:46Yeah.
- 35:47Has he been doing much racing?
- 35:48I don't know.
- 35:49Well, that's the only thing I thought about, you know, trying to think of weaknesses of teams.
- 35:53And he might not be Moff, but he doesn't do as much racing as some of the other guys.
- 35:56So does Sandown, a lot of people talk about how Sandown's a build-up into Bathurst to get you ready.
- 36:01Do you reckon he just hits out the gate and he's fast?
- 36:04He always does a good job.
- 36:06Yeah.
- 36:06Well, we've got enough practice at Sandown.
- 36:07We've got five sessions.
- 36:08Yeah.
- 36:08I'm going to be worn out by the time we get to the racing.
- 36:10Yeah, Moff.
- 36:11Yeah, Moff always does a good job, pretty solid.
- 36:14So I reckon him, Holdsworth and Chas will be fast.
- 36:19Yeah, or Holsey Lee.
- 36:20Has he been doing any racing?
- 36:21I haven't seen.
- 36:22I'm not sure either.
- 36:23I think he's been selling some real estate though.
- 36:24Yeah, yeah.
- 36:25He's doing it.
- 36:25Yeah, he's cashing in.
- 36:26JC's doing it.
- 36:27Who's Hazelwood with?
- 36:29This is Brody.
- 36:29With Brody?
- 36:30Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 36:31And you've got Ojeda?
- 36:32Yeah, I've got Juice.
- 36:32I reckon he'll be good.
- 36:33Yeah, yeah, Juice has been doing well.
- 36:35I reckon he's underrated.
- 36:36Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's real quick.
- 36:37He's been doing heaps of racing this year, which would be good.
- 36:38So, like, he's probably the best prepared he's been going into it.
- 36:42So, looking forward to that.
- 36:43I reckon Brody and Todd are a bit of a...
- 36:46You know, I think Brodie's starting to find his form in a way again.
- 36:50Like, you know, seen some pretty good qualifiers for... Yeah, I think so.
- 36:53He talks it down, but... Yeah.
- 36:55He's definitely still a contender, I reckon, in the background.
- 36:58Yeah, I reckon even him at Bathurst.
- 37:00I reckon that's a pretty big contender.
- 37:02Like, every year... Well, every year when I was with him with Erebus, I think he was on the podium...
- 37:08at Bathurst.
- 37:09He was always fast there.
- 37:10I just think that him at Bathurst has a pretty good shot.
- 37:13Hazelwood's obviously done, Todd's done, what, three races this year?
- 37:17Did he do?
- 37:18Yeah, two.
- 37:19Two.
- 37:19Yeah, but he's been doing Trans Am and plenty of other bits and pieces, so he's done a good job in.
- 37:23But, yeah.
- 37:24And Todd's got the weight as well.
- 37:25I think that'll be a big thing.
- 37:27Yeah, he's been on the shred, the old toddles.
- 37:29I reckon Sandown, though, the pick would be Jamie and Brock, that you can't put it past.
- 37:34Jamie's just so strong there.
- 37:35Yeah, yeah.
- 37:36Brock's good.
- 37:37Jamie last year just, I remember we were leading with me and Jack and Jamie sat behind him, like, saved tyres and then just blew the doors off everyone for, like, the last 10 laps of his stint or something like that.
- 37:49Yeah, just bug it off.
- 37:50He's just extremely smart with that side of it.
- 37:53So that'll be interesting.
- 37:54But I don't know, I'm going to go, well, apart from myself because I'm going to go Brock and Jamie, I reckon we'll be strong there.
- 38:02What do you reckon?
- 38:02I'm going with Cammy, I reckon.
- 38:04Whoever wins gets 50 bucks.
- 38:05We'll go or something.
- 38:06Yeah, done.
- 38:07Righto.
- 38:07You're going Cam?
- 38:08Yeah, I've got Cammy.
- 38:09Righto.
- 38:09You can't choose yourself.
- 38:11This is all this is.
- 38:11You can't choose yourself.
- 38:12You have to choose someone.
- 38:13Yeah, I reckon Waters.
- 38:15Waters.
- 38:15How do we... We want to split the 50, are we?
- 38:17Or we... 50, 25 each.
- 38:18Do I get 100 then?
- 38:20I'll go Chaz then.
- 38:23Okay.
- 38:23Righto.
- 38:24That sounds pretty good then.
- 38:25How's the lane, Chaz?
- 38:26And there's just going to be a massive shunt between the three of them.
- 38:29Oh, you'd imagine.
- 38:30Yeah.
- 38:31Do you reckon, like, how much...
- 38:32would I have to pay one of you guys to take Chaz out?
- 38:36We'll talk about it after.
- 38:37Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 38:38There's a number, though?
- 38:39There's a number?
- 38:40There's always a number.
- 38:41There's always a number.
- 38:43They're lying.
- 38:44They're lying.
- 38:44Yeah, that's good.
- 38:45That's good.
- 38:46Okay, well, we'll chat about that after.
- 38:47Yeah, save that one.
- 38:48What have we got there?
- 38:49Dream co-driver.
- 38:50Who have we got?
- 38:52Dream co-y.
- 38:53What is it?
- 38:54What do you reckon?
- 38:55We're going to say you can't choose your co-driver, obviously.
- 38:58He's Dream co-y.
- 38:59So, or like, or...
- 39:01Yeah, but then they're going to get... Like, can you choose main game drivers from now or it has to...
- 39:08Anyone, so anyone.
- 39:10It's absolutely anyone.
- 39:11I don't know.
- 39:13I'm a big boy, so he's real light and real quick.
- 39:15Slady.
- 39:16Slady's pretty light.
- 39:17He's a lightweight, isn't he?
- 39:18Yeah.
- 39:18He's pretty light, yeah.
- 39:19Yeah, he's pretty light.
- 39:20I'm just thinking, you know, I'm just letting things strategically here.
- 39:23Are you really engineering this question?
- 39:25Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 39:26100%, mate.
- 39:26I'm going for it.
- 39:28I've got no idea.
- 39:29I wouldn't mind co-driving Cam Waters, I reckon.
- 39:31Yeah, yeah.
- 39:31I just want to see what he's like on a race weekend.
- 39:34Seems pretty calm.
- 39:35Yeah.
- 39:36Clown.
- 39:36Yeah.
- 39:36Impressive.
- 39:37I'd definitely get SVG.
- 39:38Oh, that's a good one.
- 39:39Yeah.
- 39:40That's a good one.
- 39:40Yeah, bring him back.
- 39:41Do you reckon he's going to come back?
- 39:42Yeah, that's right.
- 39:42Do you reckon he's going to come back and do a Bathurst again at some stage in his life?
- 39:47Who do you think he comes back and does it with Triple Eight, like Red Bull and Paul?
- 39:50Surely he'd have to, wouldn't he?
- 39:51Well, you would think so, but I just can't.
- 39:54I don't know.
- 39:55Went over there and did that race, obviously, in NASCAR and...
- 40:00I'm not sure.
- 40:01I don't know.
- 40:01Like maybe the interest comes back, but I think also like how does he do it?
- 40:06Like you're racing.
- 40:07He's going to be a busy boy now.
- 40:08Which is pretty cool.
- 40:09I guess we'll talk about it.
- 40:10He just announced that he's racing cup next year.
- 40:12How many events is that?
- 40:14Like 37 for the year.
- 40:14Yeah.
- 40:15So really to get back and do Bathurst, he can't even really do it.
- 40:18No.
- 40:18So like it's really.
- 40:19No, we're testing and stuff.
- 40:20Now it's really like, oh, yeah, if he does, if he keeps going NASCAR and, you know, has a good career in that, it's only after that really.
- 40:27Yeah, he'll come back when he's 50.
- 40:28Possibilities there.
- 40:29Probably still be quick.
- 40:30But then, you just retire.
- 40:32He's done it all, hasn't he?
- 40:33You're not going to.
- 40:34Not going to come back.
- 40:35I don't think it'll race as a co-driver.
- 40:37It's a pretty crazy lifestyle, isn't it, though?
- 40:38Yeah.
- 40:38And that's going to do that, travel around.
- 40:40I saw a photo the other day.
- 40:41Giz put up with his dog, Ronald.
- 40:42Is it Ronald?
- 40:43Yeah.
- 40:43Yeah, yeah.
- 40:44Big dog just sitting there in the plane seat and it's just like...
- 40:46It's mega over there.
- 40:47Like you literally all rock up to...
- 40:49I can't remember what it's called, the name of the airport, but you all rock up.
- 40:53It's about half an hour out of...
- 40:56out of Charlotte there and all the teams fly out of there.
- 40:58There's like one company that have sort of got all the planes and heaps of planes and you roll in and each team's rented a jet, you roll onto the jet and then fly to the event, get there pretty much a day of practice, do practice,
- 41:11do qualifying, stay the night, race, and then everyone, like, literally, if you hung around for 10 minutes, you wouldn't see any of the drivers because they're all gone.
- 41:18They go, get changed, put in their bag, they're off to the airport.
- 41:21Yeah.
- 41:21And then you fly out and that's a weekend done.
- 41:25So you're going from the track 20 minutes after a race.
- 41:27So, like, and I guess the reason they have to do that is they're racing every weekend.
- 41:31You have to minimise travel, don't you?
- 41:33So in last minute, out first thing.
- 41:36Yeah.
- 41:36Crazy old lifestyle, isn't it?
- 41:38Yeah.
- 41:38I'm a bit of a homebody.
- 41:38What do you reckon about it?
- 41:39Do you reckon you'd do it?
- 41:41Oh, no, I think I want to, you know, I really like Strayer.
- 41:44I guess I've got other things set up here as well with work and stuff like that.
- 41:48I still work during the week.
- 41:50But I want to try and be like one of the guys that they get to come in.
- 41:54Like if you get to the stage, you do a good job and you do two or three events there a year.
- 41:58Like that would be my ideal next year is hopefully Chicago doesn't clash with supercars and Sonoma.
- 42:05And then my ideal would be you do...
- 42:08you do Xfinity at Chicago and Cup, and then you try to do Cup at Sonoma or something like that and do those two for the year.
- 42:15Because, like, you know, what's going on?
- 42:18Like, I'm loving supercars, obviously, with the new team this year.
- 42:21Like, it's a long, long planned thing.
- 42:23I don't want to move over there.
- 42:24But if you could get that fixed by going and doing a couple of races a year, even like, you know, I know Brock's keen on doing it, but, like, GT stuff overseas, just doing that something a little bit different, just trying it, you know, each year.
- 42:35But that would be my goal.
- 42:37Obviously, a big thing and a very sad thing in supercars, which I think happened a couple of days ago now, was Campbell Little, obviously.
- 42:46It's really sad to hear about his passing, I'm sure, for a lot of you guys.
- 42:50You know him extremely well, and a lot of even the guys on the supercars grid he engineered over the time.
- 42:55Yeah, he was my first engineer in 2018.
- 42:58Yep.
- 42:58Best memories of working with him?
- 43:00Yeah, no, it was all right.
- 43:01Yeah, other than like, yeah, cracking the shit's out of my time to drive faster.
- 43:04But no, he was good.
- 43:05Yeah, I learned a lot from him.
- 43:06He was a good fella.
- 43:07Got a lot out of it.
- 43:08And yeah, it was a good fun year with Campbell, ATB.
- 43:11Yeah.
- 43:12Had a jolly old time.
- 43:14So no, definitely very sad.
- 43:16He'll be missed.
- 43:16Yeah, definitely.
- 43:17It was pretty sad to hear because I think I only saw him at...
- 43:21I think he was at New Zealand.
- 43:23I saw him there and I didn't even know he was sick, to be honest, and then read about it.
- 43:27So that was really sad and I think his funeral's on Monday, so I think a fair few of us are going to head down for it.
- 43:33Got 50 seconds left here, fellas.
- 43:35Thanks for coming to Will Brown's show.
- 43:37Yeah, thank you very much.
- 43:37You did well, mate.
- 43:38It's a pretty good job for your first time hosting.
- 43:40Yeah, I know.
- 43:41Maybe we start one.
- 43:42Where do we send the invoice?
- 43:43Yeah, yeah, supercars.
- 43:44Yeah.
- 43:45Yeah.
- 43:46Might bounce, but actually put another zero on the end of it, guys.
- 43:49It's all good, you know.
- 43:50I've done a couple.
- 43:50Yeah, yeah.
- 43:51We've proved that we're good to go.
- 43:52Yeah, that's good.
- 43:53All good.
- 43:54But no, thanks everyone for listening.
- 43:55Love it.
- 43:56Thank you.
- 43:56See you at Sandown.
- 43:58Yoop.