Latest / Deprogrammed Music Podcast / 7 Seconds
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- 0:32It's Deprogrammed, the podcast where we try to get you into a
- 0:36band. That's right.
- 0:37We've done all the work. All you have to do is push play.
- 0:39My name is Justin. You can call me Band Curious
- 0:42because I am curious about bands and sometimes my friends come to
- 0:46me and say they want to talk about these bands.
- 0:48So we collect them up and we get together and talk about it and
- 0:53the result of it will be a top ten circuit list for you to get
- 0:57into said band. And I'm not going to get too
- 0:59clever here because the Phoenix Suns used basketball used to be
- 1:05shooting 7 seconds or less and the name of the band today is 7
- 1:10seconds. No need to get clever. 7 seconds
- 1:13is the band. And I think John, again, we we
- 1:15talked about this last night, we're really just kind of
- 1:18chugging through a lot of those bands you threw on early.
- 1:21I think I think this is one of those.
- 1:26Yeah, another one that, you know, I put up on the board a
- 1:30long time ago and just been kind of in limbo, just kind of
- 1:33waiting for someone to jump on it.
- 1:34And Gavin, dude, which is awesome.
- 1:36But yeah, 7 Seconds is another one of those like early hardcore
- 1:43bands that like not a lot of people know about because they
- 1:48were like from Reno, NV, which is not exactly like a hotbed of,
- 1:52you know, underground musical culture.
- 1:54But they kind of made it 1. Like they, they were one of the
- 1:58first like, positive for events. Like we talked about with
- 2:01Ladderman, you know, when we recorded that last night.
- 2:04Like Ladderman is a direct like that that that attitude, that
- 2:08style of music goes back to 7 seconds.
- 2:10Like there's a Direct Line there.
- 2:12And like they were, you know, contemporaries with, you know,
- 2:15Minor Threat and all those DC bands, like they were friends.
- 2:18Some of the stuff that's going on in California.
- 2:21And I think their stuff, it really it holds up in a way that
- 2:26not everything from that era does because of the the attitude
- 2:30and the sentiment behind it. And like the leader, Kevin
- 2:32Seconds, like one of the one of the coolest people in hardcore
- 2:37probably. And, you know, they, they kind
- 2:41of were victim, they kind of were victims of that 80s thing
- 2:44that we talked about sometimes where like they like what's
- 2:47Agnasti, I think was the one where like they kind of fell
- 2:50into a little bit of that like, oh, we might want to be U2 and
- 2:55didn't really work out. But then they came back in the
- 2:5890s and got a little bit more of the, the do that they deserve.
- 3:02We covered that record. Good to go.
- 3:05And they've just kind of been around ever since, like they're
- 3:07just an institution now. And they're they're, you know,
- 3:11still so much fun. Some of the the songs are fun to
- 3:13scream along with. And yeah, but this is one
- 3:17another one that I put up on the board and cost someday that's
- 3:20going to be really fun to talk about.
- 3:21And I'm glad we're getting to do it.
- 3:23And I, I feel like Gavin, you know, I don't know if this was
- 3:25like you're perusing the list and, and you saw it, or if this
- 3:29was, you did an episode with John and said, yeah, I'd, I'd be
- 3:32up for doing that. So you, you had told us in in
- 3:35the the chat that you and a friend had had gotten the record
- 3:39and we're like fired up about it.
- 3:41So talk to me about 7 seconds. Yeah, thanks.
- 3:44Yeah, I love, I love doing that episode with John.
- 3:47So that was one of the main factors, I think.
- 3:49And thanks for having me back on.
- 3:52Yeah. That was, I was at AI was at a
- 3:55like a high school reunion party kind of thing with all the weird
- 4:00like kids that I grew up with the other night in the 80s.
- 4:04And I had a friend named Quinn. I have a friend named Quinn who
- 4:07got me into hardcore when we were in like 8th grade and, and
- 4:16Seven Seconds was a band that we really latched onto and the
- 4:20crew. I mean, 7 seconds is built for
- 4:23kids and you're idealistic. The world is in front of you.
- 4:28You're just starting to understand, like the problems
- 4:32that the adults have gotten the world into.
- 4:34And your heart is sort of burning.
- 4:37You know, you're having like your first, like, crushes and
- 4:40you start to care about things or you need someone to teach you
- 4:44how to care about things that are bigger than you.
- 4:50Like it's not just about you he had.
- 4:54And the the the whole study has a song.
- 4:56It's like all the know something about like oh, I learned from
- 4:59the early 7 seconds. Like if that's that's, yeah,
- 5:02that's definitely part of it that they taught a lot of people
- 5:04how to how to behave and how to how the world works.
- 5:08Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome.
- 5:10And kids need, kids need to know how to behave, especially kids
- 5:14that sort of gravitate toward outsider culture, you know, for
- 5:20one reason or another. They've probably got some stuff
- 5:22going on. He had, he had maximum
- 5:25Rock'n'roll magazines or fan scenes and we would, I would
- 5:28just pour over those and he would like show me like here's
- 5:32the scene report, here's the here's the information.
- 5:36This is really serious. It was like we were like in
- 5:39school, you know what I mean? Like I was studying it.
- 5:41It had this really beautiful book.
- 5:43I don't know if you guys have seen it.
- 5:45It's old. It's old.
- 5:46It's called California Hardcore and it has like all these
- 5:50amazing photos and it's a big like oversized paperback book.
- 5:55And that was really great to read.
- 6:00And he was playing me like the Dead Kennedys and Code of Honor.
- 6:03And I just really, we just really loved the crew he had.
- 6:09He had a maximum rock'n'roll comp called Not So Quiet on the
- 6:12Western Front, which is, in my opinion, maybe the greatest of
- 6:17all time. And seven seconds of a song on
- 6:19there called Fuck Your America, which is like maybe the best
- 6:23hardcore song ever written. It's fucking so great.
- 6:28And you know, and then I heard like the skins brains guts 7
- 6:32inch, the 1st 7 inch, which is just incredible front to back.
- 6:39I mean, it's got a bunch of songs on it, even though it's a
- 6:41little 7 inch. And I think like, I think
- 6:45Thurston Moore put together a band with some other famous like
- 6:48a kind of a super group and they just covered that record, that 7
- 6:51inch like straight through. I can't, I don't have time to
- 6:54look it up. I can't remember the details of
- 6:56that, but yeah. And then I liked like I liked
- 7:00Walk Together when it came out and I liked change in my head
- 7:07because it hit at the right time for me.
- 7:09And I always thought of that more as like I hear the U2
- 7:14stuff. It reminds me more of the alarm,
- 7:17even like the early alarm, because it it's, it's so earnest
- 7:23and like so on the nose. You know, it's a little bit, it
- 7:26can be a little bit like when you grow up more and you
- 7:30understand like more of the complexities of things and then
- 7:32and the, the nuances and stuff. It can be a little bit like
- 7:37reductive, but but that's OK. Their whole, you hear motifs
- 7:43that we'll, we'll hit on those, right?
- 7:45They have motifs 7 seconds that keep appearing.
- 7:48And one of the things that they're always hitting on is
- 7:51like, don't lose your don't let your heart grow old and die.
- 7:58You know, like stay young, keep that fire, stay earnest, keep
- 8:07your passion burning. And they give you like a road
- 8:10map on how to do that. And yeah, I just think they're
- 8:16fucking great. I mean, we're going to I think
- 8:18we'll run into a little bit of like the generation gap again,
- 8:22which always happens for me on these shows where, you know,
- 8:25like, I can definitely see how good to go.
- 8:29Was so on time and that that crazy bass, like Steve Youth,
- 8:34like just fucking grows is bass playing just gets insane where
- 8:40he's doing like those crazy Matt Freeman, like walks up and down
- 8:44the bass and stuff and like, I like it all that stuff.
- 8:47But like, I guess I'm going into the next question already,
- 8:51Justin, But you know, the fucking crew is like where it's
- 8:55at. Like, that's the sound of
- 8:57hardcore to me, you know? Yeah, so surprise, surprise, yet
- 9:03another band I was not familiar with, you know, upon pushing
- 9:08play 7 seconds, also very aptly named.
- 9:14Like the these guys do not waste time.
- 9:20They're quick to the point. Yeah, like they're quick to the
- 9:23point. I think our whole playlist is
- 9:25like under two hours and it's 60 something songs, so it's not
- 9:29like they're not giving you anything.
- 9:31They're giving you everything and they're doing it like just
- 9:35precisely. And it's, it was a blast.
- 9:40You know, I accidentally blew through the entire playlist.
- 9:45John and I were supposed to record something, I think last
- 9:47Friday or something. And he goes, what if we did 7
- 9:50seconds? I was like, oh cool.
- 9:51And he puts the playlist up. I was like, you know, I'll play
- 9:54a video game and, and push play and I'll, I'll listen to this 7
- 9:58second stuff and see how fast I can go go through it.
- 10:01Next thing I knew it was over and I was like, oh, OK, well,
- 10:07there's that. It's, it's such a breeze to
- 10:12listen to and fun. And you know, I'll get into some
- 10:15more specifics on this next round.
- 10:17But I already mentioned John. It's it's, it's easy to listen
- 10:20to. It's less than two hours, but
- 10:23when you're putting together 20 songs for that, does that make
- 10:25it easier or harder? It's it's a.
- 10:32Little hard it's like I'm, you know, Gavin talked about how,
- 10:35you know the crew is is the record like walk together, rock
- 10:38together Was that for me, like when I heard that record, it was
- 10:41like, Oh man, like this, this is something that's going to stick
- 10:45with like that's one of my favorite records.
- 10:47So think when we we did Kid Dynamite, I talked about like,
- 10:50you know, the greatest melodic hardcore records of all time and
- 10:53walk together rock together is is in that echelon for me.
- 10:58So like I and again, I was familiar with with the
- 11:01discography. So I probably had again, 8 or 9
- 11:04that I was like automatic. These are going to be in and
- 11:07like matter of, you know, going back into new wind, getting into
- 11:11good to go, figuring out like what from there can stand up
- 11:15with with the two like pillars of the early years.
- 11:19But All in all, like not that difficult, like maybe just a
- 11:23couple of tough cuts. But I think I've pretty much got
- 11:27everything I wanted. You, you already kind of alluded
- 11:30to to your struggle here Gavin. So like what is was your list
- 11:35putting together? Did you just kind of stick to
- 11:40what's up front? Yeah, I think it wasn't.
- 11:44It wasn't hard. I could have taken the whole
- 11:46crew album, walked together. What didn't hold up as much as I
- 11:53remember. Like I have that record.
- 11:55I loved it as a kid. I and the crew just feel like
- 11:59really holds up. I really liked listening to New
- 12:01Wind again. I really liked Good to Go.
- 12:06Yeah, I think that, I don't know, like some stuff stood out
- 12:14for me and some stuff didn't. And I, I don't, I don't always.
- 12:18I'm not really going to have a reason for that.
- 12:19You know, I think it's kind of a pass up.
- 12:23I, I, I, I think I hit 20 exactly on my first pass.
- 12:27Oh, there you go. Yeah.
- 12:30There you go. That's always, always the clue
- 12:32you don't want. You don't want to work too hard
- 12:33on on on this. And here's what I'll say.
- 12:37And because I, I get the feeling as we go into the to to the next
- 12:40layer, the thing that is so beautiful and wonderful about
- 12:45this band, I feel like is going to be the thing that bites us in
- 12:48the ass. And putting the list together as
- 12:50far as, you know, unanimous is there would be times where I'd
- 12:57be listening to a song and then I'd go to add it to my list and
- 13:01I'd look at the list and I'd be on the next song.
- 13:04And you know, so by the time I, you know, so like, it's awesome
- 13:09because it fucking rips. But also like, it was really
- 13:14hard to differentiate what's what.
- 13:17And you guys could have song one where I'm going to end up having
- 13:21song 2 just because when I put it on my list or, or when I know
- 13:25it right, like, and I know it's a cop out to say no wrong
- 13:31answers. I don't think there's very many.
- 13:33I also want to point I want to point out that I'm with you guys
- 13:37as far as where it's at is those first two, the crew and walk
- 13:42together are like where it's at. I really enjoyed the other two
- 13:46and I did it it. It did like in an accidental
- 13:50way, like even out my list. But when it comes to like what I
- 13:55was like really into, it was definitely the crew and walk
- 13:59together. Like I was really into those
- 14:01records and then I was just able to find enough to include like
- 14:05an even amount of stuff from the last two so.
- 14:09There's there's one song that's very different than I'm going to
- 14:12be curious to see if anyone has. OK.
- 14:15Yeah, yeah. I mean, we each get 20, so it's
- 14:18possible. And I, I feel like gameplay
- 14:22could be a little muddled here, John.
- 14:24I mean, again, we, we talk about the math a lot lately.
- 14:27There's only three of us this go, but it's 60 songs, so it
- 14:31still could feasibly 20/20/20. What do you think we're going to
- 14:37do for the final say? I mean, it's 7 seconds.
- 14:41That's still got to be positive. I'm going to go 8.
- 14:44I like that. Yeah, I like that.
- 14:47What do you think, Gavin? That's funny.
- 14:50Yeah. I mean, that's good to hear John
- 14:53do that. Well, you would think there's
- 14:57only three of us and there was only 60 songs.
- 15:00So that means you get to take one out of every three songs.
- 15:04This is normally, I mean, I'd be shooting for the moon, but I
- 15:09think that what you said is right, Justin.
- 15:11Where there's a lot of like, did you take song A or song B?
- 15:18Like it's a toss up, You know what I mean?
- 15:20And so I'm going to be uncharacteristically
- 15:24conservative and say that I think we get 3.
- 15:28I think I'm going to be stoked. Oh, OK.
- 15:32I like that. I think I'm going to price is
- 15:35right. You though, if, if we've got
- 15:37that all that space between 8:00 and 3:00, you know what, it's
- 15:41there instead of prices writing you, I'm going to I'm going to
- 15:44take right down the middle. I'm going to go with five
- 15:47because then we can walk through the last five.
- 15:49I think, I think that I think that's possible.
- 15:52I think, I mean, to be, to be truthful, the music's good
- 15:56enough. John's eight.
- 15:58We could obliterate John's eight.
- 16:00I just I feel like it's just it's just going to be, you know,
- 16:05if if you picked 45, the 45 second song or the 56 second
- 16:10song that we're back-to-back, you know, so all right, we're
- 16:15going to take a quick pause and on the other side of it, we are
- 16:17going to play the game Jack. It's the programmed.
- 16:25And with that, the name of the game is deprogrammed.
- 16:28The three of us have come through the Seven Seconds
- 16:30discography and plucked out 20 songs that we're now going to
- 16:32mash together in an attempt to create a top 10 starter kit for
- 16:35you. In case you are like me and have
- 16:38never given 7 seconds the time of day.
- 16:41And I did it last night, I'm doing it again tonight or today.
- 16:45There's no way I'm not starting at the start like anybody who
- 16:49knows me knows exactly where I'm going.
- 16:52And yeah, I'm going there. Here's your warning.
- 16:56Yeah, there's one. Yeah, Yeah.
- 17:02I didn't get a ton of answers for this band, which, you know,
- 17:05isn't all that shocking, but that was one of them.
- 17:11And I mean, you know, rightfully so.
- 17:13It's it, I don't want to say sophisticated, but like it's,
- 17:19it's right on time. It's, it's, it's exactly what
- 17:22you're hoping for and they don't stray from that.
- 17:24It's great, you know, wait, a set of tempo boys.
- 17:29All right, let me get back to this and one down, John.
- 17:38Well, I'm going to keep the track 1 trend going and this
- 17:42song makes me want to run through a wall regressed.
- 17:45No way. Yes, Sir.
- 17:49I didn't take it but I love the title and I love the lyrics.
- 17:51Great song. Take drums on that one.
- 17:55Man, yeah, we'll take it. Too crazy.
- 17:56Yeah, yeah. Take it to you there, Gavin.
- 18:03I'm going to go to the last one. I'm I'm going to take something
- 18:06fun and fast off good to go just so I don't think anybody will
- 18:10have it, but I took 4141 done. I got it.
- 18:15No. We'll take a two there.
- 18:21Boom boom, boom, boom, boom. OK, well John already took my
- 18:33one. I guess maybe I'll go to my
- 18:36what's listed as my 2:00 and it's also a Part 2.
- 18:40How about this is the angry Part 2?
- 18:46Yeah. No.
- 18:49OK. All right.
- 18:52Two, that's one of the other answers I got.
- 18:56I think there may be one or two more.
- 19:00All right, John. OK.
- 19:03So when we did botch, we talked about their covers and how their
- 19:10coverage is too good to like leave off.
- 19:13They they like were inextricable from the band.
- 19:16And some bands can do that. They can take a cover song and
- 19:19like make it their own. And you almost like forget that
- 19:23it's a cover song and seven seconds has one that's like you
- 19:28wouldn't think it would make sense, but it's a song about
- 19:31like being in a war-torn place and like there's a little bit of
- 19:34darkness to it. And their version is just so
- 19:37good that I had to included 99 red balloons.
- 19:41I don't have it. Dude, I love that song and I
- 19:45love the original song too, in both languages and I love the
- 19:49words. I didn't take it.
- 19:51I didn't just because it was a cover and I I wasn't sure that
- 19:54you guys were going to do it, you know, But like, I would not
- 19:57fight for that to be on the list.
- 19:59That's a great cover. I want to let you know that
- 20:02you're not, you know, I got that answer twice.
- 20:06So it's not, it's it. I don't I don't not have it
- 20:10because of the cover. We just you know, we just went
- 20:12over this with botch. I just didn't have room like it
- 20:17is an excellent cover. So I just didn't have it.
- 20:22All right, Gavin. I took Boss off the crew and
- 20:29it's just so funny, dude. It's like, you know, these guys
- 20:32have only, you know, ever had one job, you know, like washing
- 20:35dishes or something. But they're like, you know,
- 20:38writing this manifesto about the, the power dynamic, you
- 20:41know, between you and a manager. You know, it's great.
- 20:45I don't have that one. No. 2 into the bin.
- 20:51No fun. All right.
- 21:02Let me let me try a new wind one.
- 21:06How about the night away? No.
- 21:13Nope. No, Ben.
- 21:16All right, John all. Right, let's let's try to get
- 21:22back on in the air. How about instant classic young
- 21:25till I die? Yes, Sir.
- 21:28Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, that one I just
- 21:37couldn't get away from. Yeah.
- 21:40Like I, I, like, I think I kind of breezed through it on, on the
- 21:44first go and then like it was theoretically on the chopping
- 21:50block and I was like, but why am I looking at cutting that?
- 21:54It's a mission statement. Yeah, I was just going to say
- 21:57that. I mean, that's their mission
- 21:58statement. Yeah.
- 22:00Well, you know, when you were talking about that in in the
- 22:03first part, like that was the song I was thinking about.
- 22:05I was like, I think, I think that part of it went over my
- 22:09head. I just but like, it must have
- 22:12seeped in there somewhere because this was definitely one
- 22:15of my favourites. So yeah.
- 22:17All right, you Until I Die gets on in Gavin.
- 22:24So I went to high school in Napa, CA in the in Northern
- 22:29California, which is theoretically like, you know,
- 22:34like a liberal, a Democratic votes Democratic.
- 22:37And dude, my town was like so violent toward any kid or person
- 22:46that kind of stepped out of line if you weren't into sports or if
- 22:53you add weird hair or like, I went to the only high school
- 23:00football game I ever went to. I wore pink Converse.
- 23:07And dude, the entire stands of people, like adults who are like
- 23:13throwing food at me, yelling like all these really, you know,
- 23:18inappropriate things to me. And like, I was a kid.
- 23:20I was a little kid, you know, And yeah, so my friend, when he
- 23:25played me the Crew, the first thing he did was read us, read
- 23:29the lyrics to Bully as we our high school was terrifying.
- 23:35And yeah, so I had to take Bully off the Crew.
- 23:37Dang, knowing all that, I'm wishing I would have would have
- 23:41grabbed that one. No, I don't have it.
- 23:44Yeah, no, I don't have it, but like part of it too.
- 23:47Like looking at them on the cover of Walk Together, Rock
- 23:49Together. Like the dude's got half a
- 23:51shaved head like or stuff like you're like, man, these guys are
- 23:55intense. Such a great photo dude.
- 23:58Yeah. Yeah, and that Reno must have
- 24:02been no fun, dude. I mean, you know.
- 24:04Right, right. Yeah.
- 24:06They would have gotten a lot of shit from looking like that for
- 24:09sure. All right, all right.
- 24:17I'll go to walk together. How about out of touch?
- 24:22No. No.
- 24:25Wow, I didn't expect so much, Ben.
- 24:28All right in the bed it goes, John.
- 24:35There's still some out there. One of my favorite things about
- 24:38walk together, rock together is like the live songs at the end.
- 24:41It just shows you like how intense they were and how fast
- 24:45they could play. And like I love some of his like
- 24:48quick banter before the songs. This one like fucking magic man
- 24:53Bottomless pit. Dude, that speech he gives us,
- 24:56so great. I don't have it.
- 24:59That's so awesome. So this band is one of the few
- 25:04bands that like before the before we recorded, I was able
- 25:09to listen to almost the entire list.
- 25:14And when that came up, I was like, where do I make room for
- 25:17that? I mean, you know, who wants to
- 25:19at the last minute is is what I always say.
- 25:21And that's basically what happened is I just, I didn't
- 25:25want to make a last minute change.
- 25:26So all right, Gavin. I took clenched fists, black
- 25:33eyes off the crew. No.
- 25:41Nope. All right.
- 25:51All right, let me. And did you have that?
- 25:53One. No, I did not.
- 25:54Nope. OK, let me go to let me try
- 26:00another New wind. How about title track New Wind?
- 26:05Yeah. Yes.
- 26:08Oh interesting, I didn't see that as AI mean.
- 26:14Obviously I enjoyed it. I didn't see that as a
- 26:17unanimous. That's interesting.
- 26:21All right, let me scroll that up.
- 26:28You know, I I feel bad. I feel like I was talking trash
- 26:31about new end, but I I'd rather enjoyed it.
- 26:35It just it's standing up against these really 2 great records.
- 26:40So I'm glad we got something from it.
- 26:41Oh good. Yeah, don't, don't you think
- 26:43it's like, it's, I mean, it's weird.
- 26:45It came out the same year as, can I say, right, like 86.
- 26:49And I mean, they sound different, but they share
- 26:52something, right. That that spirit.
- 26:55Yeah. It almost it's like they were
- 26:57trying to do like a almost like a revolution summer thing, like
- 27:01embrace or like soul side Beefeater, that sort of thing
- 27:05that was going on, like that sort of influence was getting in
- 27:08there. But like I just yeah, it for me,
- 27:12like I I love some of the songs, like the title track.
- 27:14I I think is great. I think they they had written
- 27:16that around the time of, of work together, rock together.
- 27:20And yeah, I just, I just can't get away from the 80s mess up at
- 27:24all. Yeah, yeah.
- 27:27All right, well, I mean, for the record, that brings us to
- 27:30Gavin's 3. So I mean, I there's still a ton
- 27:33out there. We could still find a couple
- 27:34more. But John.
- 27:38OK, let's go back to the crew. How about red and black?
- 27:46No. Wow, OK.
- 27:50Yeah, I think, I think what we're seeing is exactly what I
- 27:52was talking about, Like song air, song B, song, air, song B.
- 27:58There's still more out there though.
- 27:59Yeah, Gavin. I took the song after that I
- 28:04took Die Hard off the crew. And there you go.
- 28:07See, no, I don't have that one, but.
- 28:09No. All right, now back around to
- 28:15me. Let me try another walk
- 28:23together. How about we're going to fight?
- 28:29Yeah. Whoa, yes.
- 28:33Hey. You got it, dude.
- 28:36I was thinking when I listened to that, John and Justin, I was
- 28:40like, I don't have kids and the world should thank me for that.
- 28:45But that isn't that is like a song that you would just hand to
- 28:50your kid and say, like here is an ideal from living, you know,
- 28:56and it's so funny. It's like all you know, the
- 28:57parents were like, oh, I don't want my kid to be a punk rocker
- 29:01and shit. And like, dude, like what kind
- 29:05of culture were the the jocks at my school like absorbing, like
- 29:09it was not good, you know what I mean?
- 29:11And then you've got this bait. It's like saying like the most
- 29:15ethical, the most positive, like the most like relentlessly
- 29:21positive messages for kids, you know, like, I think we're going
- 29:26to fight is just like the ultimate storybook, you know,
- 29:29for a kid. Yeah, as a matter of fact, I
- 29:33think I'm going to I'm going to my my youngest is into punk.
- 29:38I mean nice more more into like pop punk but I might go hey you
- 29:42should listen to this. Yeah.
- 29:45So, all right, so that was me. John, you're up.
- 29:51Hey, I've still got a bunch of title tracks, so let's go to a
- 29:56type of track. How about walk to get the rocks
- 29:57to get? Very good, but no.
- 30:01No, that's tough, that is. Shocking.
- 30:06That is shocking. That's a plastic, Yeah.
- 30:13Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep. All right, Gavin.
- 30:19Let's go to a title track. Let's try to get something off.
- 30:22Good to go. You guys have that go.
- 30:27No. I do.
- 30:30Hey, there we go. Take that two.
- 30:33Boom and boom. I also want it to be noted that
- 30:40part of what you're hearing here, other than just, you know,
- 30:44it being a really good discography is we turned this
- 30:48around in like 5 days, so. Yeah.
- 30:52Right. I mean, you know, not to let us
- 30:54off the hook, but that is that is definitely part of it.
- 31:02How about opinion of feelings? No.
- 31:08No. OK, John.
- 31:10That's a good song. I like that song all.
- 31:15Right, this one came up in the chat.
- 31:17It's on the list twice to emphasize how how good it is,
- 31:21but I think the live version is superior.
- 31:24Brand new. Still believe brand new.
- 31:27Yeah, yeah. I don't.
- 31:29I can't do that for you guys, but it is very good.
- 31:34That's another mission statement, dude.
- 31:36That's like total their total motif that that song has killer
- 31:41bass in it. All right, that take that to A2
- 31:47still doesn't take us out of NTPI don't think.
- 31:51All right, Gavin. I'm going back to good to go.
- 31:56I love baby. John has this.
- 31:58It's a closer. I'd love to.
- 32:00Here we go again, kids. I got it.
- 32:04It was closed, but now. It has like 3 different parts,
- 32:09you know, It's like it's, it's a pretty cool complex song for
- 32:12them. Yeah, I, I again, if I had more
- 32:18time to articulate an opinion, you know of why I picked it.
- 32:22I, I'd guess you probably just nailed it.
- 32:24Like I'm pretty sure that's what made it stick out to me.
- 32:29All right, I'm going to go back to the crew.
- 32:31I haven't done any of my crew picks in a while.
- 32:35How about aim to please? No.
- 32:40No. Man, I am way off base all
- 32:43right. That's I I like it, That song.
- 32:46The reason I didn't take it is it's so minor threat.
- 32:49Like it sounds like to me like they're just they're, they got a
- 32:54little too close to the line on it.
- 32:55I love it, Yeah. No, that makes sense.
- 32:59All right, John all. Right, there's there's one cell
- 33:04out there that I'm looking at. That's that's a classic.
- 33:07So try to hit on this one. How about not just boys fun.
- 33:11No. Oh, dude, I didn't take it.
- 33:18And like, that's the other one that my friend read me the
- 33:21lyrics to and was like you, we need to, you need to like learn
- 33:25this. You know, I would not fight
- 33:27against that song. That's a great one.
- 33:29We're going to get letters now. You guys are.
- 33:33Yeah. Yeah, that's brutal, Justin.
- 33:35You didn't have it either, right?
- 33:36No, sorry. Guys.
- 33:40Sorry. Come on.
- 33:43Again, you know, that's that A or B mentality that kind of
- 33:47happened. All right, Gavin.
- 33:52I took I have a dream off the crew.
- 33:55No. No.
- 33:59Yeah, lots and lots of bin. Lots and lots of bin.
- 34:05All right, let me go back to walk together.
- 34:08How about? Remains to be seen.
- 34:11Yeah. Yes, we're back.
- 34:14Hey, all right. Although that now puts the
- 34:20pressure on me, so we need to at least get one more.
- 34:24Think positive. We're thinking positive today.
- 34:26Hold. On let me grab that one.
- 34:32I was ready to just move on. I love like there's a lot of
- 34:38like post in pre recording chatter that gets left in in
- 34:42these. Like I think this is the one
- 34:44where it's like 7 seconds take one.
- 34:48Yeah, it's totally by kids for kids.
- 34:51Yeah, love that. Love that.
- 34:52It's just fun, all right? Remains to be seen.
- 34:57Gets us up to 5, John. Right title track the crew.
- 35:03No. No, it's a great song.
- 35:13All right, Kevin. I took like the emo pop song of
- 35:23New Wind The Inside. No, no, unfortunately, no.
- 35:36All right, back to me. I guess I can try another new
- 35:49win when I've done those two. How about just one day?
- 35:53Yeah. Hey.
- 35:56No all. Right.
- 35:59That one, I feel like you could hear Bono creeping in there.
- 36:07All right. I think we're safely out of NTP
- 36:10and we have discussion points now too.
- 36:12So all right, John. I'm just going to make a 10 out
- 36:16of the trash. Yeah.
- 36:19Right, pretty good. All right, I'm going to go.
- 36:24I'll throw out my one of my new wind ones.
- 36:28Have I grown apart? No, no.
- 36:32Yeah, all. Right, Gavin?
- 36:41I love his voice on the crew. He just sounds so young and like
- 36:48just like the power of youth in his voice.
- 36:51I took straight on off the crew, which is like kind of like their
- 36:56their answer to straight edge, I guess.
- 37:00No. No.
- 37:05Were you straight as John? Oh yeah, definitely.
- 37:10Yeah. All right.
- 37:13We didn't really mention that, right?
- 37:14This band doesn't and drink or take drugs.
- 37:19That's cool. That's hard to do.
- 37:23Yeah, yeah, yeah. Up until I was 40.
- 37:29Wow, that's great. Yeah, man, yeah, that's fucking
- 37:32awesome. Yeah, it's cool.
- 37:35Because then what what you're hearing in those live songs and
- 37:38stuff is just pure adolescent energy.
- 37:41Yeah, man, it's like not. It's not fueled by amphetamine
- 37:45or anything, you know, Pepsi. Yeah, Pepsi, I'll try a good to
- 37:54go song. How about sour grapes?
- 37:59No. It's yes.
- 38:02Hey, all right, take another two.
- 38:07Make that conversation a little bit harder, you know?
- 38:10All right, John. What if there's a war in
- 38:14America? I didn't take it.
- 38:18It's a great song. I should have known.
- 38:21No, I don't have that one. See, but that's that's just it
- 38:27right there on the cruise specifically like we are working
- 38:30through almost the entire of that record.
- 38:34So all right, Gavin. I took a banger off good to go
- 38:41called This World of Mine. No.
- 38:46No. I feel like I'm starting to wind
- 38:57down here. Let me give it a count. 12345.
- 39:02Yeah, I think maybe one more round and then we'll dump out.
- 39:05Sounds like a plan to me. And which one do I think has a
- 39:11chance? The way it's going?
- 39:13I don't know. How about definite choice?
- 39:22None. Nope.
- 39:25Wait. All right, John.
- 39:31In your face. No, that's a great.
- 39:38Song all right, Gavin. I only have one left.
- 39:42Oh. I took tied up in rhythm off new
- 39:49wing. No.
- 39:52No. All right, so that means I'm
- 39:54going to win. Wow, that's all right.
- 39:59I'll figure something out. All right, I'll dump out here.
- 40:04Just let me let me shift these real quick.
- 40:09And I'll start at the top. Let's see, I did that one.
- 40:15How do you think you'd feel? Yes.
- 40:23Hey, all right. Also off a walk together, How
- 40:28about strength? No.
- 40:34OK, And then all I got left is good.
- 40:39Good to go. So sooner or later, yes.
- 40:43Hey, and last but not least. Oh, OK, I don't know what that
- 40:49means. This one's in the bin.
- 40:50Slow down a second. All right, so we got 5.
- 40:55We covered a lot of ground. Hold on.
- 40:57I want to get some official numbers here in a second.
- 41:01I mean that is almost textbook. What I was saying was going to
- 41:07happen like A or BA or B. 40 We covered 40 out of the 62.
- 41:12Yeah, the only songs not played from The Crew where you lose
- 41:18colorblind trust and spread colorblind.
- 41:22Was the one I was thinking of. That's the rat song.
- 41:24Oh. Yeah, yeah.
- 41:28And then from walk together the only ones that didn't get played
- 41:31were spread drug control and this is the angry Part 2, which
- 41:34was a live 1. So yeah we we covered those
- 41:39first two records pretty pretty good All right let's see what do
- 41:44we got in automatically here's your warning.
- 41:47Young till I die new wind we're going to fight remains to be
- 41:49seen. That's already a hell of a
- 41:51start. 1-2 I'll just read them down instead of counting because
- 41:57it's actually a relative amount. A lot we got regress.
- 42:01No way 4141 done. This is the angry Part 2.
- 42:05Good to go, Still believe. Here we go again kids.
- 42:09Just one day sour grapes. How do you think you'd feel?
- 42:13And sooner or later, honestly, as I was reading through those,
- 42:20Still believe was the first one that jumps out at me and I was
- 42:24the odd man out at that. Unless anybody is against that.
- 42:32All. Right.
- 42:33So let's do that. All right.
- 42:35So is there one that's jumping out of you, John?
- 42:40Regressed. No way.
- 42:42All right. Any pushback on that, Gavin?
- 42:48No, that's fine all. Right.
- 42:49So same question to you. Is there one that's jumping out
- 42:51to you? Regressed.
- 42:54No way is off walk, so no, but I guess I would argue so we've got
- 43:15two off the crew, 2 off New Wind and three off walk together.
- 43:19We don't have anything off good to go yet and we have 1234.
- 43:24We have 5 #5 two votes off of good to go.
- 43:29Yeah. I guess I'd try to take a couple
- 43:33of those. 4141 done is great, but it's just kind of a short,
- 43:40fun, funny hardcore song like yeah, good to go is really the
- 43:44title tracks really great. Here we go again, kids.
- 43:47The last really great and then you guys.
- 43:50Go would be my take title track. Cool.
- 43:53All right, let's take good to go.
- 43:55All right, boom. And I actually agree with you.
- 43:59I think 4141 Don is just super happy to be here at this point.
- 44:04Like, I don't. Yeah, I I'm glad I picked it.
- 44:07It's a good song. It was.
- 44:08It's fun. But like, I think when you stand
- 44:10it up here against everything else, it's like, yeah, I don't.
- 44:13I don't think you belong. All right, so that brings us up
- 44:17to 8. So let me run these down real
- 44:19quick, and then we'll pick #9 Here's your warning.
- 44:21Young till I die. New wind we're going to fight.
- 44:23Remains to be seen. Still believe regress, no way.
- 44:25Good to go. Is there anything else that we
- 44:28should be looking at here? Should it be another good to go
- 44:31or? I mean really, it should be not
- 44:37just boys fun or walk together, rock together.
- 44:40I'm cool with that. I love both those songs.
- 44:43I'm. Good with that.
- 44:45But they're they're in the trash.
- 44:46We'd have to, you'd have to pull rank.
- 44:49Yeah, we'd have to mutiny. Those two I I'd take not just
- 44:55boys. Fun over over.
- 44:57Walk together. And I would take either of those
- 44:59two songs over anything that's left in the twos.
- 45:02But they're but they're both in the bin, so.
- 45:09But I'm throw I'm throwing behind it.
- 45:11Justin, I'm OK with it. I think that they were just
- 45:16those are two songs that like I that I listened to so much when
- 45:19I was young. I was just really like branching
- 45:23out and listening to other stuff for this list.
- 45:25But they're classics. I don't know, whatever all.
- 45:30Right. Well, is there anything else
- 45:33that's still alive that's jumping out at anybody?
- 45:37Let's see. Not really.
- 45:45You know, this is the angriest something I actually got as an
- 45:47answer when I asked what's the grades?
- 45:59I mean, if we want a sound differential, here we go again,
- 46:02kids is. That's really good.
- 46:06Yeah. I mean, I'm just saying because
- 46:11I have a final say and I'd prefer that if we're going to
- 46:15pick something out of the bin, it be my final say then, you
- 46:20know, one we're voting in, if that, if that makes sense.
- 46:24Yeah, like I know, but I want 2 of them even like even 99 red
- 46:33balloons. I'm like, that would be.
- 46:35I'd be so good on this. Yeah.
- 46:43All right, so. So for representation, take
- 46:50another good to go I. Mean yeah, if you're if you're
- 46:56going to make me all the rules, then it's probably here we go
- 47:00again kids is probably the one that serves it.
- 47:04Yeah. Right.
- 47:05But. But yeah, but not just boys.
- 47:08Fun and work together, rock together, or better.
- 47:13I mean noted, right, Well noted. And I don't think it speaks I'll
- 47:21of our list. I think it it I think it speaks
- 47:24to the two things that happened here, the song song a song B
- 47:28thing. Also the fact that we turn this
- 47:33around in less than a week. I think that's is the other
- 47:36thing. So we'll go with here we go
- 47:38again, kids as our number 9 and then I'm going to pluck.
- 47:43Where is it not just boys fun out as our as my final say, to
- 47:50be our number 10. Boom, boom.
- 47:54And let me shift that around and run it down one last go.
- 47:59We can't be breaking all the rules because next thing you
- 48:01know, Fredo's going to do that for everything.
- 48:04It's anarchy. Yeah, it's got to be some
- 48:08semblance of rules. All right, let me run this down,
- 48:12and then we will do the last bit.
- 48:16Here's your warning. Young till I die.
- 48:17New wind we're going to fight. Remains to be seen.
- 48:20Still believe regress. No way.
- 48:21Good to go. Here we go again, kids And not
- 48:24just boys. Fun ends up being nice and
- 48:26rounded minus new wind, which, no shade there, but was probably
- 48:32my least favorite, you know, so I think that kind of bears out
- 48:37correctly. We got a call off it.
- 48:39Yeah, two of them. Two of them got in there.
- 48:41Yeah, so. That's a sick lift dude.
- 48:44Yeah, yeah. That's a.
- 48:46Really good lift. So if I read those 10 down to
- 48:50you, John, which one's the one? Oh, young till I die, probably.
- 48:57It's got to be right. That's it, yeah.
- 49:00Yeah, like, you know, again, not knowing, not really like that,
- 49:08not really clicking until Gavin said what he said in in the
- 49:12open. Yeah, I think I think that's it.
- 49:14It's their mission statement and it rules and yeah, let's. 499
- 49:19red balloons. There.
- 49:23That's that's a good point. Let's see Young tell.
- 49:27Folks, that paradise city rule. All right, let's do young till I
- 49:35die. And I'll run it down one last
- 49:38time and we'll wrap it on up. Young till I die is our number
- 49:43one. Here's your warning.
- 49:44New wind we're going to fight. Remains to be seen.
- 49:46Still believe regress. No way.
- 49:48Good to go. Here we go again, kids, not just
- 49:50boys. Fun rounds out our 10.
- 49:53Let's let young till I die get a moment in the sun.
- 50:03Yeah, there you go young till I die, right in your eardrums,
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