Latest / Not Another Football Podcast / Tom Urie
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Not Another Football Podcast with
- 0:07Speaker 1: myself Simon.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Donnelly and Jackie McNamara.
- 0:10Speaker 1: And we're delighted we've got a man of many talents,
- 0:13Speaker 1: many fields, TV, comedy, music, Tom Urie.
- 0:16Speaker 2: How are you doing?
- 0:17Speaker 3: I'm alright, I don't know anything about football.
- 0:19Speaker 2: And we'll promise not to ask any questions on football.
- 0:22Speaker 3: You can but I'll not answer them right. Tom and
- 0:24Speaker 3: Stuart get me on quite a lot and it's just
- 0:26Speaker 3: for the sole purpose of laughing at the fact that
- 0:28Speaker 3: I know nothing.
- 0:29Speaker 2: So no interest in football at all?
- 0:30Speaker 3: Well, no, that's not strictly true. I've never really had
- 0:34Speaker 3: an interest in anything until during lockdown. And I don't
- 0:40Speaker 3: know what happened, but I ended up watching Scotland versus
- 0:43Speaker 3: Denmark when they qualified for the Euros. Listen to me
- 0:46Speaker 3: talking about football. And I had a wee bit of
- 0:49Speaker 3: a road to Damascus moment. I jumped out of my
- 0:51Speaker 3: seat and I was jumping about cheering when Marshall saved
- 0:53Speaker 3: that goal.
- 0:55Speaker 2: And I went, oh!
- 0:56Speaker 3: Oh, this is what it is. It's like finally seeing
- 0:59Speaker 3: a dolphin in a magic eye picture, you know, after
- 1:02Speaker 3: squinting for ages. And then Susie McCabe that you've had on,
- 1:05Speaker 3: she took me to my first game at Hampden. Oh,
- 1:08Speaker 3: was it a Scotland game? Scotland game. And it was
- 1:11Speaker 3: good because there was pies and I got all carried away.
- 1:15Speaker 3: But she was laughing at me because I was saying
- 1:17Speaker 3: things like, do we order drinks for the interval?
- 1:20Speaker 2: And, you know.
- 1:22Speaker 3: How did the audience all know the same songs? Things
- 1:24Speaker 3: like that. She was speaking as if I was in
- 1:26Speaker 3: the theatre. She was howling. No, so I... I get it,
- 1:33Speaker 3: but I don't understand. You get it, but you don't
- 1:34Speaker 3: get it.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Fair enough, thanks.
- 1:37Speaker 1: So, you've just finished... We were just talking there before
- 1:40Speaker 1: we came on.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Kelvin Grove.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Kelvin Grove bandstand. Karen Dunbar and I do an act
- 1:45Speaker 3: called Almost Angelics. Which we've been doing for... centuries now
- 1:51Speaker 3: I think but we kind of wheeled it out again
- 1:53Speaker 3: recently because it took off on TikTok and the kids
- 1:58Speaker 3: liked it so Marty Perlow asked us if we would
- 2:01Speaker 3: open for him at the Kelvin Grove Bandstand for three
- 2:03Speaker 3: nights and what a riot absolutely banging really really funny
- 2:09Speaker 3: just the audience all leathered up for a laugh mad
- 2:13Speaker 3: it was really good.
- 2:15Speaker 2: What were your somersaults on stage?
- 2:16Speaker 3: Oh that was yeah all my own work The amount
- 2:21Speaker 3: of people that think it was me phoning him up going,
- 2:25Speaker 3: how did you manage to learn to do that? And
- 2:28Speaker 3: I'm like, do you really think it was me? I
- 2:30Speaker 3: kind of stand up. I kind of walk to the
- 2:32Speaker 3: spa and you think I'm doing double somersaults and everything. No,
- 2:35Speaker 3: we had a stunt double. About a third of my
- 2:37Speaker 3: age padded up a wee bit and he did all
- 2:40Speaker 3: the somersaults. And I came back on eating a banana.
- 2:44Speaker 2: We described you as a man of many talents, comedy, music, TV.
- 2:47Speaker 2: What is your... You get a favourite out of them?
- 2:50Speaker 3: Aye, music.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Is it music all day?
- 2:52Speaker 3: It's always been music. I ended up acting by accident.
- 2:56Speaker 2: So take us back then, how did you...? Well, I was.
- 3:00Speaker 3: I'd done some acting in the early 90s because I'd
- 3:04Speaker 3: worked for the singing kettle and I ended up doing
- 3:06Speaker 3: a few shows with them.
- 3:07Speaker 2: I used to go and watch that when I was
- 3:08Speaker 2: a kid.
- 3:09Speaker 3: When you were a kid?
- 3:10Speaker 2: No, with my kids. Did you not meet the guy
- 3:12Speaker 2: on a plane or something? No, it was Gary. I
- 3:16Speaker 2: made an arse of myself.
- 3:19Speaker 4: I don't like flying and we were coming back from
- 3:21Speaker 4: America and I got tanked up before we got on
- 3:25Speaker 4: the flight with the Celtic team and halfway across I
- 3:31Speaker 4: think I had so many complaints against me with different
- 3:34Speaker 4: people who were just trying to enjoy the flight and
- 3:37Speaker 4: I spotted Gary and I went over to him and I.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Went split out the handle and.
- 3:42Speaker 4: A lot of my teammates at Celtic didn't have a
- 3:44Speaker 4: clue what I was doing or who he was and
- 3:46Speaker 4: Gary was to be fair he was brilliant he was
- 3:49Speaker 4: a lovely guy he just kind of with his wife
- 3:51Speaker 4: and kids being out in America and he's like how
- 3:54Speaker 4: you doing and he actually lived about half a mile
- 3:56Speaker 4: from my house out in Lone Head And I met
- 4:00Speaker 4: up with him and I went and I took, because
- 4:01Speaker 4: I used to take my daughter, love to sing in Kettle,
- 4:04Speaker 4: and I took her to a few of his shows
- 4:05Speaker 4: and then went to the Festival Theater and watched them.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Artie and Siller.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Aye. Artie and Siller.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Aye, but I think I was giving him an uncomfortable
- 4:14Speaker 2: moment on the flight.
- 4:15Speaker 3: I could be all right if I'm used to it.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Aye.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Be used to it, aye. No, so I worked for
- 4:18Speaker 3: them and then I kind of, aye, I was pals
- 4:23Speaker 3: with Karen Dunbar and she knew that... the boys, Ford
- 4:28Speaker 3: and Greg, were doing Chewing the Fat. They'd done the
- 4:31Speaker 3: first series and they were doing Chewing the Fat live
- 4:34Speaker 3: at the Citizens Theatre in Glasgow. And they wanted a
- 4:36Speaker 3: sing-song at the end, like a panto, and they needed
- 4:39Speaker 3: a piano player. So she said, will you come and
- 4:43Speaker 3: play the piano? I went, aye, all right. So they
- 4:45Speaker 3: ended up putting me in a dress. Because it was
- 4:48Speaker 3: in the Klansman, it was Jack and Victor sang it,
- 4:50Speaker 3: I was the originaliser. so they put me in a
- 4:53Speaker 3: dress and a wig but it ended up that they
- 4:55Speaker 3: started using me for other sketches during the show and
- 4:59Speaker 3: then the funny thing I think was it this I
- 5:04Speaker 3: was in the house one night and the phone went
- 5:06Speaker 3: and it was our production assistant saying tell me what
- 5:08Speaker 3: time my pick up was in the morning for chewing
- 5:10Speaker 3: the fat for filming and I went what said oh
- 5:15Speaker 3: you're down we've got you down here is coming in
- 5:17Speaker 3: to be in series 2 and I went nope didn't
- 5:19Speaker 3: know anything about this So, aye, next morning I was
- 5:23Speaker 3: on set working with Ward and Greg. They were cops
- 5:27Speaker 3: in a subway and I was behind the counter the
- 5:30Speaker 3: day before I had any known I was going to
- 5:31Speaker 3: be in it. And then I just ended up doing
- 5:33Speaker 3: loads of stuff.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Scottish cops or something?
- 5:36Speaker 3: Scottish cop and a New York cop. So it's my
- 5:39Speaker 3: first ever time acting on telly and I'm mince and
- 5:42Speaker 3: I'm bowfing and it's back on TikTok again.
- 5:44Speaker 2: The other one you did was Install Game, Martin.
- 5:47Speaker 3: That's right.
- 5:48Speaker 2: That was one of my... I like that one.
- 5:50Speaker 3: What you were saying about meeting Gary in the plane,
- 5:53Speaker 3: I went to New York a couple of times as
- 5:55Speaker 3: well and they stopped off at Iceland. I don't know
- 5:58Speaker 3: what they were doing but they would take you in
- 6:00Speaker 3: a bus to the Blue Lagoon and let you go
- 6:01Speaker 3: in for a swim. I think it was a way
- 6:03Speaker 3: of promoting Iceland, it was Iceland there. So I went
- 6:07Speaker 3: and I was swimming in this lake in Iceland at
- 6:10Speaker 3: the top of the world, and a guy swam up
- 6:11Speaker 3: to me and went, maybe if you have a job, you.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Might be able to make your ass feel that. Iceland! Iceland!
- 6:15Speaker 2: I was going to bring you some snowballs in.
- 6:18Speaker 3: I know, mate, I know, because nobody's ever done that.
- 6:22Speaker 2: So that's the line you get more often than not?
- 6:24Speaker 3: Aye, all the time. And you know what? I mean,
- 6:27Speaker 3: people say that must annoy you, doesn't it? It's like
- 6:29Speaker 3: a total buzz. It's a still game, come on. It's like...
- 6:33Speaker 3: amazing imagine being able to be in still game.
- 6:37Speaker 5: I loved Chewing the Fat as well Chewing the Fat
- 6:40Speaker 5: was brilliant it was because I remember at the time
- 6:43Speaker 5: when it was the second series that really took off
- 6:47Speaker 5: and I remember going out because I don't drink anymore
- 6:49Speaker 5: but I was still having a pint back then and
- 6:52Speaker 5: I went out.
- 6:52Speaker 3: For a drink with them and it was like Beatlemania
- 6:54Speaker 3: for the two of them they were just getting mobbed
- 6:57Speaker 3: and it was like they couldn't they were having to
- 6:59Speaker 3: get smuggled out the back of pubs and stuff It
- 7:02Speaker 3: was insane. It was wild.
- 7:04Speaker 2: I mean, out of all the sketches of Tune The Fat,
- 7:06Speaker 2: like Jack and Victor's.
- 7:08Speaker 4: One with the older ones, it wasn't my favourite. But
- 7:11Speaker 4: to turn that into a still game.
- 7:13Speaker 3: It ended up working brilliantly, I know.
- 7:15Speaker 4: I think I like Ronald Villiers and the one with
- 7:20Speaker 4: the painters, the two wee kind of Neddy painters.
- 7:23Speaker 3: They were funny. You can get too far.
- 7:26Speaker 4: Aye.
- 7:28Speaker 1: So the second series, they've just... sent the car for
- 7:33Speaker 1: you the next day. They've no really give you a
- 7:35Speaker 1: heads up and suddenly you're in it.
- 7:37Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't as if I was doing a
- 7:38Speaker 3: soliloquy from Hamlet or anything. It was like any time
- 7:41Speaker 3: they needed a... How many of them was there? Was
- 7:43Speaker 3: there five of them, six of them? Any time they
- 7:44Speaker 3: needed another person, they just phoned me, which was brilliant
- 7:47Speaker 3: because it was just... I ended up in some funny sketches.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Take a drink and what else? The Vintiton, the Quick
- 7:55Speaker 3: Fit advert. There's one where... You know, Ford used to
- 7:59Speaker 3: do this character where he'd smash up everything because he
- 8:01Speaker 3: was frustrated.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Hi, Ballistic Bob.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Ballistic Bob. And there was one in a restaurant, and
- 8:05Speaker 3: I'm just sitting in the background, and they hadn't told
- 8:09Speaker 3: any of us what he was going to do, and
- 8:11Speaker 3: he just did it, and I burst out laughing. And
- 8:13Speaker 3: they couldn't do it again because they'd smashed up the set,
- 8:15Speaker 3: so if you watch it, you can see me going...
- 8:20Speaker 3: It was just, it was brown. And then that led
- 8:22Speaker 3: on to Only An Excuse, and so I worked with
- 8:25Speaker 3: Johnny Watson and Philip Duffer for a while. And that
- 8:28Speaker 3: was incredible. I didn't know anything about football. Johnny had
- 8:32Speaker 3: to explain who everybody was that I was doing, and
- 8:35Speaker 3: he would have to do the impersonation for me to
- 8:37Speaker 3: learn it, because I just was like, I just don't know.
- 8:40Speaker 3: I just don't know anything. I don't know who yous are.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Aye, so you say music then, so did you come
- 8:51Speaker 1: out of school, did you pursue a.
- 8:53Speaker 2: a kind of music career.
- 8:54Speaker 3: At such a start? I went to rock music college
- 8:58Speaker 3: in Perth and it started in, I think it started
- 9:00Speaker 3: in 1985 and I went straight to school. About a
- 9:03Speaker 3: year after school, I failed everything at school and went
- 9:07Speaker 3: to Cardinal College to do maths or something and I
- 9:10Speaker 3: never went. I used to leave the house in the
- 9:12Speaker 3: morning and pretend I was going and just go home
- 9:15Speaker 3: with my pals. But that was incredible and that's where
- 9:18Speaker 3: I started singing. and playing piano and stuff. And then
- 9:21Speaker 3: from then I got quite a lot of session work
- 9:25Speaker 3: in Glasgow in the 90s, so I did a lot
- 9:26Speaker 3: of adverts for Clyde and stuff, Howard Bedding and all that,
- 9:30Speaker 3: that was me. And just gigs and music and stuff. Yeah.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Got you onto, did you do a lot of the
- 9:38Speaker 2: stuff for Chewing the Fat as well?
- 9:39Speaker 3: Yeah, did the music for that. I've done the music
- 9:41Speaker 3: for loads of stuff like that. I think I'm cheap.
- 9:44Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 9:45Speaker 3: I did some stuff for Only An Excuse as well
- 9:48Speaker 3: and Burniston and Frankie Boyle and stuff like that and
- 9:51Speaker 3: a few documentaries and everything so aye it's frequental.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Must be good looking back and seeing all your stuff
- 9:59Speaker 2: still going.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Aye I mean what have you written you go well
- 10:03Speaker 3: Willy's Pies you know for chewing the fat the kind
- 10:06Speaker 3: of Willy Wonka thing with the pies and then probably
- 10:11Speaker 3: the biggest thing was the Still Game live shows I
- 10:13Speaker 3: did all the music for them and the third one
- 10:15Speaker 3: was a full scale full on musical so I was
- 10:17Speaker 3: there for the whole six weeks rehearsal, and that was
- 10:20Speaker 3: a total buzz, the hydro, man, that was incredible, yeah,
- 10:25Speaker 3: that was just before lockdown as well, so, no, but
- 10:28Speaker 3: it's always been music, music since I was a tiny
- 10:31Speaker 3: wee boy, and I think maybe, because my brother and
- 10:34Speaker 3: my sister love football, they're mad for football, and I
- 10:37Speaker 3: think they just used up all the genes, there was
- 10:40Speaker 3: none left for me, and I just got all the music.
- 10:42Speaker 2: What sort of music are you into then, is it
- 10:44Speaker 2: a varied.
- 10:45Speaker 3: Loads of stuff. I love the Beatles. I've always loved
- 10:48Speaker 3: the Beatles. I love... I love everything. Genuinely, I love everything.
- 10:54Speaker 3: I write stuff as well. Favourite gig you've been at? Oh, man.
- 11:01Speaker 2: 1987.
- 11:02Speaker 3: Me and my pals borrowed my pal's dad's car because
- 11:07Speaker 3: his mum and dad were on holiday and we drove
- 11:09Speaker 3: down to London to see R.E.M. R.E.M.? Where I put?
- 11:13Speaker 3: In the.
- 11:15Speaker 3: The Hammersmith Odeon.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Class.
- 11:17Speaker 3: And it was amazing. And I think we just all
- 11:20Speaker 3: slept in the car and then just drove back up.
- 11:22Speaker 2: What age would you have been then? 18. 17, 18.
- 11:26Speaker 3: But it was dynamite. Another brilliant gig I went to
- 11:30Speaker 3: was Dolly Parton. You ever seen that?
- 11:32Speaker 2: No.
- 11:33Speaker 3: The Armadillo.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Your street, isn't it? My mum was at that one.
- 11:36Speaker 2: It was magic. Was that about.
- 11:39Speaker 3: 2002, 2003? Aye, aye. And she'd come out on the
- 11:42Speaker 3: stage and went, Hello, Chinas. Lang May, you're Lomreek. Somebody
- 11:46Speaker 3: had been teasing her partner. No, it was brilliant. I
- 11:51Speaker 3: love going to gigs. Yeah.
- 11:53Speaker 4: I like concerts and all that. It's so much better live,
- 11:56Speaker 4: isn't it?
- 11:57Speaker 2: I used to listen to R.E.M. towards the end of
- 12:00Speaker 2: school and I've never seen them live.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Because in the 80s they were kind of mysterious. They
- 12:07Speaker 3: were from the deep south and they were all a
- 12:10Speaker 3: bit kind of, And they didn't really enunciate what they
- 12:13Speaker 3: were saying, so you were like, it felt really weird.
- 12:16Speaker 3: And then they got really kind of popular and commercial,
- 12:17Speaker 3: but it was just, it was a real, it was
- 12:20Speaker 3: the first kind of running away from home thing. Nobody
- 12:25Speaker 3: knew where we were going. None of the parents knew.
- 12:27Speaker 3: I think they think we were camping or something, but
- 12:29Speaker 3: we were in London.
- 12:31Speaker 2: And you were in River City as well?
- 12:33Speaker 3: Aye, and I was there this morning, because they've just
- 12:35Speaker 3: demolished it.
- 12:36Speaker 2: Have they?
- 12:37Speaker 3: They've just demolished it. Did that read.
- 12:39Speaker 1: Somewhere your last, recorded the last bit was it April
- 12:42Speaker 1: this year or was that well I left it 14
- 12:44Speaker 1: years ago so but folks still think I'm in it
- 12:48Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 12:50Speaker 3: But their final recording was in April final recording in
- 12:53Speaker 3: April yeah I think so it's going to be on
- 12:55Speaker 3: the last episodes next month but they've demolished the set
- 12:59Speaker 3: which was it was so traumatic because it was beautiful
- 13:02Speaker 3: it was like being in a bit of partick totally
- 13:06Speaker 3: to scale it was really really beautiful so today when
- 13:08Speaker 3: I went down it was flattened and it was just
- 13:10Speaker 3: like and the one thing that was left was the
- 13:13Speaker 3: wee fountain in the middle they'd left it standing and
- 13:15Speaker 3: it just looked like they'd asked me to go down
- 13:19Speaker 3: is it in Dumbarton? just before you get you know
- 13:25Speaker 3: the kind of petrol stations at the roundabout just before
- 13:27Speaker 3: you head up to Balloch it's just off there and
- 13:32Speaker 3: it was stunning it was like a town and it
- 13:36Speaker 3: would be weird because you'd be sitting there looking at
- 13:38Speaker 3: it going I feel as if I'm in the city
- 13:39Speaker 3: centre but I'm smelling cow shite and hearing birds singing
- 13:44Speaker 3: because it's the countryside but no they'd asked me to
- 13:47Speaker 3: go down because they'd found some stuff like photos and
- 13:49Speaker 3: everything that they thought I would like so it was
- 13:51Speaker 3: lovely my car's full of stuff but that was amazing
- 13:56Speaker 3: they did that for five years and I played Big
- 13:58Speaker 3: Bob Shellsuit Bob's uncle Shellsuit Bob's uncle aye There were
- 14:03Speaker 3: two bobs.
- 14:05Speaker 1: And you did your World Cup song with Sanjeev as well.
- 14:08Speaker 1: So we had Sanjeev on a few weeks ago.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Aye. Just before we did it, Helen had sent me
- 14:15Speaker 2: the song. The song, it was very good.
- 14:19Speaker 1: I would never ever, I guess, it was... Sanjeev at
- 14:21Speaker 1: the time but you wrote it with him, you co-wrote it?
- 14:23Speaker 3: Well not really he wrote it, he wrote the rap
- 14:27Speaker 3: and the kind of concept of it and I produced
- 14:29Speaker 3: it all so what had happened was I went to
- 14:31Speaker 3: his house in January with my laptop and recorded his
- 14:35Speaker 3: vocal and then forgot all about it and then he
- 14:39Speaker 3: phoned me up about probably about three weeks before we
- 14:42Speaker 3: released it and went have you done? Are you ready?
- 14:45Speaker 3: Oh no! So I kind of did that kind of
- 14:47Speaker 3: two day.
- 14:48Speaker 1: In fairness, that sounds like him because see when he was,
- 14:51Speaker 1: we obviously gave it a wee plug on here. But
- 14:53Speaker 1: he said, have you got a video? No, I've not
- 14:55Speaker 1: done the video yet. I says, but the World Cup's
- 14:57Speaker 1: just about to start.
- 14:58Speaker 2: It's like a week away. You've not done a video.
- 15:01Speaker 3: We sort of went mental for about a week and
- 15:03Speaker 3: a half, two weeks. We just went, oh, and that
- 15:06Speaker 3: was all we did and all we thought about. And
- 15:08Speaker 3: we went about radio stations and stuff with a brilliant laugh.
- 15:11Speaker 3: but it was me in the house with my headphones
- 15:13Speaker 3: and the keyboard for like two days and then phoning
- 15:16Speaker 3: him and saying, do you need this bit? He's going, aye,
- 15:19Speaker 3: because if you cut that bit out then it's, because
- 15:21Speaker 3: of course I don't know what any of it means. Aye,
- 15:23Speaker 3: and he wanted the bagpipes in as well then? Aye,
- 15:25Speaker 3: he wanted the bagpipes in as well, but I faked
- 15:28Speaker 3: the bagpipes.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Oh, did you? Aye.
- 15:30Speaker 3: Couldn't afford bagpipes. So I just got a wee bag,
- 15:33Speaker 3: pressed the bagpipe button.
- 15:35Speaker 1: See, in your music thing as well, we were just
- 15:37Speaker 1: chatting before you came in, I noticed that Did you
- 15:40Speaker 1: do something with Shane Stevens?
- 15:43Speaker 2: Aye. Can you talk us through that? Aye, well, aye. Random.
- 15:49Speaker 2: There's loads of.
- 15:49Speaker 3: Random things like this, right? So when I was in
- 15:52Speaker 3: River City, I'd always wanted to do an album, right?
- 15:56Speaker 3: So I phoned up this record company and went, can
- 15:58Speaker 3: I do an album? And they went, yeah, all right.
- 16:02Speaker 3: So I made it and then part of the promotion
- 16:05Speaker 3: was They got me on to support Shakin' Stevens at
- 16:08Speaker 3: the ABC. And I loved Shakin' Stevens as a kid,
- 16:12Speaker 3: but my pal Angela absolutely adores Shakin' Stevens. So I
- 16:16Speaker 3: phoned her up and I said, do you want to
- 16:17Speaker 3: come along and pretend you're my PA or my assistant
- 16:20Speaker 3: or something? So she did in a way. We went
- 16:25Speaker 3: along and he invited us into his dressing room and
- 16:27Speaker 3: I immediately grasped us up. I went, look, she's not
- 16:30Speaker 3: my people. She's just a fan. I've smuggled her in.
- 16:31Speaker 3: And he went away and he got two big box
- 16:34Speaker 3: sets of all his albums and sang them for us.
- 16:36Speaker 3: A total sweetheart. Legend. Absolute legend.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it was class.
- 16:41Speaker 1: That's what we were talking about before you came in.
- 16:42Speaker 1: I think it was my first record. The wee seven inch.
- 16:45Speaker 3: This old house? No. Green Door?
- 16:47Speaker 2: Oh, Julie.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Oh, Julie.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Oh, aye. We were talking, I was just telling Blair
- 16:51Speaker 2: before you came in.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Aye.
- 16:52Speaker 1: I think that was my first record. And then we
- 16:54Speaker 1: looked at it on Spotify. The amount of plays that
- 16:57Speaker 1: guy's had over the years. Merry Christmas has got about
- 17:00Speaker 1: 600 million.
- 17:01Speaker 3: Massive. That was just a bloke that wrote that. I
- 17:04Speaker 3: can't even remember who it is that wrote it, but
- 17:05Speaker 3: it was a guy that had just wrote this song
- 17:08Speaker 3: and then now he could retire. That's the dream, right?
- 17:11Speaker 3: A Christmas song.
- 17:12Speaker 2: So many in these top 10. Millions of views. Aye, aye, aye.
- 17:16Speaker 2: So what do you see for your future?
- 17:18Speaker 1: What are you looking to be getting into next then
- 17:20Speaker 1: after you're supporting Marty Pelo?
- 17:22Speaker 3: Destitution maybe? I don't know. Well, we're doing, Carton and
- 17:29Speaker 3: I are doing some more stuff with Almost Angelic and
- 17:33Speaker 3: I gig a lot.
- 17:34Speaker 2: Do you tour with that?
- 17:36Speaker 3: We've not toured, but it's not something that we've even
- 17:40Speaker 3: talked about.
- 17:41Speaker 2: Fringe, we did the fringe with it.
- 17:44Speaker 3: I've struggled to even come through and see something let
- 17:47Speaker 3: alone come through every day oh no but we're doing
- 17:52Speaker 3: that I do a lot of DJing and a lot
- 17:55Speaker 3: of piano stuff a lot of gigs but no I've
- 17:59Speaker 3: never done an acting job for a while.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Do you miss that?
- 18:04Speaker 3: I mean folks say do you miss River City my
- 18:08Speaker 3: memory of River City is having to get up at
- 18:10Speaker 3: half five so I go well Aye, I miss, aye,
- 18:14Speaker 3: I sort of miss it, but at the same time,
- 18:17Speaker 3: thank God I don't have to get up at half
- 18:18Speaker 3: five every morning. But no, I did love it, but
- 18:21Speaker 3: acting's never been my passion. It's always been music and
- 18:24Speaker 3: some comedy and stuff like that. It's never been acting. Also,
- 18:29Speaker 3: and I did Panto for a few years, but I
- 18:31Speaker 3: cannae do that again. It was too sore.
- 18:33Speaker 2: That's a lot of work of that as.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Well, isn't it? I did three Pantos in Dundee with
- 18:39Speaker 3: Darren Connell. just before lockdown and I've never laughed harder
- 18:44Speaker 3: in my life than I have at him on stage
- 18:46Speaker 3: doing Panto I hope he does it again sometime because
- 18:50Speaker 3: he's just you know how funny he is yeah his
- 18:53Speaker 3: energy see that every day in an audience with kids
- 18:57Speaker 3: and parents he just he would go off on one
- 19:00Speaker 3: and everybody would just let him just go right this
- 19:02Speaker 3: is Darren's bit just let him do five minutes and
- 19:04Speaker 3: it was you would cry and laugh at him cry
- 19:07Speaker 3: and laugh at how funny he was especially when me
- 19:09Speaker 3: and him were the ugly sisters And Darren just being
- 19:12Speaker 3: Darren in a dress, going, I don't know what I'm
- 19:14Speaker 3: doing here. What am I doing in a panto? Mate, mate,
- 19:17Speaker 3: can I come and live in your garage?
- 19:21Speaker 1: I know the panto as well, because you're talking about
- 19:24Speaker 1: the fringe day after day, but the panto season's similar
- 19:27Speaker 1: to that, is it not?
- 19:28Speaker 3: Well, it starts like... Our one kind of finished at Hugmanay,
- 19:32Speaker 3: which is all right, but a lot of the bigger
- 19:34Speaker 3: ones run on. And they don't tend to do it now,
- 19:38Speaker 3: but they used to go into February.
- 19:40Speaker 2: And then it's done.
- 19:44Speaker 3: You know, what are you doing? And it's all just
- 19:46Speaker 3: old folks homes that they bus in. It's day after
- 19:48Speaker 3: day after day of old folks homes. in the audience.
- 19:50Speaker 3: And it's just lavender, you know, and no response. But
- 19:56Speaker 3: it's not my cup of tea at all. And I've
- 19:59Speaker 3: had to just kind of say, because I've got to
- 20:01Speaker 3: crab it with everybody else as well. Don't get me
- 20:05Speaker 3: in your pan, I'll ruin it for everybody. Too grumpy.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Too much.
- 20:09Speaker 3: I can't believe if I hear High School Musical one
- 20:11Speaker 3: more time.
- 20:14Speaker 2: I suppose it'd be hard doing the same repetition.
- 20:17Speaker 3: Aye. You're sitting the third week of January in a
- 20:21Speaker 3: damp costume you've been wearing since November going, what am
- 20:23Speaker 3: I doing with my life?
- 20:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:26Speaker 3: I suppose when you're doing it with a comedian, you're
- 20:28Speaker 3: a bit different in it.
- 20:29Speaker 2: It is a wee bit. We've done a wee bit,
- 20:30Speaker 2: haven't we, recently? Billy and Tim, we did.
- 20:33Speaker 3: You familiar with that? I've never seen it, no, but
- 20:35Speaker 3: I know what you mean.
- 20:36Speaker 2: We get roped into that.
- 20:37Speaker 1: So it's similar to what you were saying about you
- 20:40Speaker 1: get the phone call and the next thing you're.
- 20:42Speaker 2: In, Series 2. You know Scott Kyle?
- 20:45Speaker 3: Yes.
- 20:45Speaker 1: So Scott kind of hoodwinked us into doing a football
- 20:50Speaker 1: Q & A at one of.
- 20:52Speaker 2: The venues and we got down there and all the
- 20:54Speaker 2: actors were in the green room. Mm-hmm.
- 20:56Speaker 1: And it was me and Charlie Miller, who's an ex-Ranger player.
- 21:00Speaker 1: And he says, oh, we've got a couple of lines
- 21:02Speaker 1: for you. And, like, the blood just drained from my face.
- 21:06Speaker 1: I says, I thought we were here for a Q
- 21:08Speaker 1: & A, but it was his way to get us
- 21:09Speaker 1: into the show.
- 21:10Speaker 3: I thought you meant a couple of lines. No.
- 21:13Speaker 2: No, not a couple of lines. A couple of lines
- 21:16Speaker 2: and reading lines. A couple of reading lines.
- 21:18Speaker 1: So, before we knew it, we were playing the Pavilion.
- 21:22Speaker 1: We were part of the show, and it's kind of grown...
- 21:25Speaker 1: You and Davey Robertson have come into it. I think
- 21:28Speaker 1: we're back at the Pavilion in October. So we've done
- 21:31Speaker 1: a wee bit of that. But for us it's totally
- 21:33Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone.
- 21:35Speaker 2: Totally.
- 21:37Speaker 1: We're much more comfortable playing in front of 60,000 at
- 21:40Speaker 1: Celtic Park. Ask us to say a couple of lines
- 21:42Speaker 1: at the Pavilion.
- 21:43Speaker 3: How about we start doing this?
- 21:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. This is a wee bit different again.
- 21:49Speaker 2: It's a wee bit different again.
- 21:50Speaker 1: But you're kind of out of your comfort zone there
- 21:53Speaker 1: at the Pavilion playing.
- 21:56Speaker 2: We're playing ourselves really aren't we.
- 21:58Speaker 4: I mean I went to watch it just to start
- 22:00Speaker 4: with before he brought us other two people.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Into it and watching it the crowd the crowd it's.
- 22:09Speaker 3: Mental the pavilion's great though for that the pavilion.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Audience if you get one half if there's one.
- 22:15Speaker 3: Audience to be frightened of it's the pavilion audience because
- 22:17Speaker 3: you're not good at what you know.
- 22:18Speaker 1: We kind of learned that but it was Rangers Celtic
- 22:19Speaker 1: so that brings another element to it the light's dim
- 22:23Speaker 1: and your bit comes up and the spotlight's on you
- 22:26Speaker 1: and you're getting fucking heckled by half the theatre and
- 22:31Speaker 1: then the other half is giving you a little bit
- 22:33Speaker 1: of a cheer it is it's weird.
- 22:35Speaker 3: I get a lot of because I was in Trainspotting
- 22:38Speaker 3: 2 and I was in the scene where have you
- 22:41Speaker 3: seen Trainspotting 2? I've seen the clip it's the scene
- 22:45Speaker 3: where the orange lodge and I'm the bouncer that makes
- 22:49Speaker 3: them go up and sing on the stage and everyone
- 22:51Speaker 3: So I'm neither Catholic nor Protestant. I don't understand any
- 22:54Speaker 3: of it. I wasn't brought up that way. Don't understand.
- 22:57Speaker 3: I don't support any bill. I support Officially St Mern
- 22:59Speaker 3: because I'm from Paisley. But I've never understood any of
- 23:02Speaker 3: the kind of stuff. It just goes over my head.
- 23:06Speaker 3: And we did four days filming on Trainspotting 2 and
- 23:09Speaker 3: they covered me in tattoos. So I had the red
- 23:12Speaker 3: hand of Ulster and King Billy and what year is it?
- 23:16Speaker 2: 1690.
- 23:16Speaker 3: 1690 on my neck and everything. And I didn't even
- 23:22Speaker 3: know there was.
- 23:23Speaker 2: That was the pin.
- 23:24Speaker 3: The pin number, right, uh-huh. It's genius, it's hysterical, right?
- 23:28Speaker 3: And there was a lot of folk there from Lodgy's
- 23:31Speaker 3: World as the extras, and a lot of them are going, oh, right,
- 23:33Speaker 3: big man, didn't they know you were... And I'm like,
- 23:37Speaker 3: I'm just an actor, I don't know what any of
- 23:38Speaker 3: this means. No, that was mental. So I do get
- 23:43Speaker 3: people coming up to me and asking me to sing
- 23:45Speaker 3: the song from that, and I'm like, I can't even
- 23:47Speaker 3: remember it.
- 23:49Speaker 2: It's a good scene actually.
- 23:50Speaker 3: It's a good scene. There's a guy who.
- 23:52Speaker 4: Was telling me a story about the boy, the ex-player
- 23:56Speaker 4: over on an island and he got a tattoo put
- 24:00Speaker 4: in but it was King Billy on the horse and
- 24:04Speaker 4: he was going to pay for it and he thought
- 24:07Speaker 4: it was for the whole thing so he couldn't afford
- 24:10Speaker 4: to put the horse in so he said I'll come
- 24:12Speaker 4: back and finish the horse so his first bit of
- 24:14Speaker 4: the tattoo was.
- 24:15Speaker 2: King Billy with wee legs.
- 24:19Speaker 4: And that was a kind of, I don't remember the
- 24:21Speaker 4: guy's name, the guy told me the story and I
- 24:24Speaker 4: couldn't stop laughing. So it was like a kind of joke,
- 24:26Speaker 4: because you've got King Billy, who you think, so obviously
- 24:29Speaker 4: he's got the wee legs because he's on a horse,
- 24:30Speaker 4: but he couldn't afford the horse.
- 24:33Speaker 3: Amazing.
- 24:34Speaker 2: And years later, he's still not got a horse.
- 24:37Speaker 3: Oh, brilliant. But that makes it more of a talking point,
- 24:40Speaker 3: doesn't it?
- 24:41Speaker 2: He's still not afforded to put the horse in. Mental.
- 24:46Speaker 2: Where did you film that?
- 24:48Speaker 3: That was filmed.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Was that in Edinburgh?
- 24:50Speaker 3: No. So I did two kind of blocks of it
- 24:54Speaker 3: because I had to go back and reshoot stuff. So
- 24:58Speaker 3: the first one was in the Orb in Bells Hill.
- 25:02Speaker 3: I think it was because they could blank out the windows.
- 25:05Speaker 3: So I was there for a few days and then
- 25:07Speaker 3: went back a few months later and in between I
- 25:10Speaker 3: had had a gastric bypass. So I'd lost something like
- 25:14Speaker 3: eight or nine stone in between the next... So in
- 25:17Speaker 3: the shot on Trainspotting 2, when you see me from
- 25:20Speaker 3: the back, I'm like, fat bastard. And when you see
- 25:23Speaker 3: me from the front, it goes like that. It goes
- 25:26Speaker 3: like that. As you go back and forth. You can't
- 25:28Speaker 3: notice it unless I've pointed it out. And that was
- 25:31Speaker 3: in Clyde Bank.
- 25:32Speaker 2: Right.
- 25:33Speaker 3: So, no, I don't think, I don't think any of
- 25:35Speaker 3: it was filmed in Edinburgh. I think it was all
- 25:37Speaker 3: through there. Did you have much to do with, like,
- 25:40Speaker 3: Sir Ewan McGregor and the guys in it? I spent
- 25:42Speaker 3: two or three days.
- 25:43Speaker 2: They were lovely.
- 25:43Speaker 3: They were dead nice. I spent two or three days
- 25:46Speaker 3: with them. Because it was just him and the boy...
- 25:49Speaker 3: It was him and Johnny Lee Miller. They were quiet. No,
- 25:53Speaker 3: they were just obviously concentrating. But no, they were nice.
- 25:56Speaker 3: They were really nice. He's quite posh.
- 26:00Speaker 2: He's a pair, isn't he?
- 26:03Speaker 3: Yeah. He kept getting phone calls from famous people. And
- 26:07Speaker 3: I'd be like... Who are you talking to? It's Ty
- 26:12Speaker 3: Burrell from a show called Modern Family.
- 26:14Speaker 2: I'm like.
- 26:17Speaker 2: He was in Star Wars and all that. Obi-Wan.
- 26:18Speaker 3: That's right.
- 26:19Speaker 2: Obi-Wan. One of my favourite ones was Shallow Grave.
- 26:23Speaker 3: Ah, brilliant. His first one. It was banging. Yeah, absolutely brilliant.
- 26:26Speaker 2: There's a few in that as well. Boy, he played
- 26:28Speaker 2: Doctor Who. I forget his name. So you enjoyed that.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Would you like to go to more of that? More films?
- 26:33Speaker 3: Aye. I mean, I do love it, but you cannae make.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Plans for that.
- 26:37Speaker 3: You just gotta wait and it's a lottery, you know.
- 26:39Speaker 3: Somebody needs a fat guy that can play the piano.
- 26:42Speaker 3: Get him. You know, it's this kind of thing that's
- 26:44Speaker 3: what happens. But.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Do you get used to that then though? The kind
- 26:48Speaker 1: of uncertainty of it or just waiting for that next bit?
- 26:50Speaker 3: It's a lot, you know, because I do the music
- 26:54Speaker 3: and I do other stuff as well. You're busy all
- 26:56Speaker 3: the time? I just concentrate on whatever's going on at
- 26:58Speaker 3: the moment.
- 26:59Speaker 2: And if that comes on?
- 27:00Speaker 3: And if something comes along then you go and do it.
- 27:02Speaker 3: I did have a spell of doing really good stuff
- 27:05Speaker 3: and then it all kind of stopped at lockdown. I
- 27:07Speaker 3: did a film and a series and everything that year.
- 27:12Speaker 3: I think called Guilt which I really enjoyed and then
- 27:15Speaker 3: I think called Elizabeth is Missing which I got to
- 27:17Speaker 3: act with Glenda Jackson in who's like this legend and
- 27:21Speaker 3: then lockdown happened and it changed everything and there's not
- 27:25Speaker 3: as much stuff getting made and it's sort of as
- 27:28Speaker 3: if the industry is now just starting to recover from
- 27:31Speaker 3: it and you know I just sat in the house
- 27:35Speaker 3: and played Animal Crossing for a year and a half
- 27:39Speaker 3: watched football.
- 27:41Speaker 1: Well I ended up watching the Euros I know I
- 27:44Speaker 1: know surreal nothing else to do in lockdown it was
- 27:47Speaker 1: difficult it was tough especially with somebody like yourself for
- 27:50Speaker 1: the music.
- 27:50Speaker 3: Well what I ended up doing was I started going
- 27:53Speaker 3: mad and I thought I need to do something.
- 27:55Speaker 1: So I started did you do stuff on Zoom on
- 27:56Speaker 1: the new stuff well I started as folks started playing
- 27:59Speaker 1: well I started I decided that I wanted to do
- 28:02Speaker 1: a song a day so I would I would layer
- 28:07Speaker 1: up all the instruments so I'd get the guitar.
- 28:08Speaker 3: And the piano and I would use a drum machine
- 28:10Speaker 3: and I would say on Facebook what song do you
- 28:14Speaker 3: want today and somebody would say and I would record
- 28:17Speaker 3: it and then I would do a video and by
- 28:20Speaker 3: 7 o'clock I posted it every day and it started
- 28:24Speaker 3: off quite simple like it was a Billy Joel thing
- 28:26Speaker 3: and then there was something else and then somebody asked
- 28:28Speaker 3: for Bohemian Rhapsody and I went right so I spent
- 28:33Speaker 3: I spent about two weeks working it out in my
- 28:36Speaker 3: head And then I spent a whole day recording the
- 28:40Speaker 3: harmonies and the piano and all the instruments. And then
- 28:44Speaker 3: posted it and it went mental. And then Brian May
- 28:47Speaker 3: ended up posting it.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Seriously?
- 28:49Speaker 3: And I had to go to my bed for a
- 28:51Speaker 3: couple of days because it was too overwhelming. But it's
- 28:53Speaker 3: on YouTube if you want to have a look at
- 28:55Speaker 3: what a nervous breakdown looks like.
- 28:56Speaker 2: And where did you put that out? Just over?
- 28:59Speaker 3: I put it on YouTube. Right.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:01Speaker 3: It's still there. There's about 60 of them. And I
- 29:03Speaker 3: got more and more kind of elaborate with my videos.
- 29:07Speaker 3: And I was just making them in the house.
- 29:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:09Speaker 3: A lot of them did really well. And it kept
- 29:14Speaker 3: me busy and it kept my head from attacking me. Yeah.
- 29:17Speaker 3: Because I have big mental health problems. So this was
- 29:20Speaker 3: a real good focus for me. Because it was like quicksand,
- 29:26Speaker 3: that lockdown for people that had mental health problems.
- 29:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:30Speaker 3: A lot of people.
- 29:32Speaker 2: It's a tough thing, lockdown. Definitely. Yeah.
- 29:37Speaker 3: But have a look go on YouTube and look for
- 29:39Speaker 3: Tom Yoruba absolutely definitely.
- 29:42Speaker 1: So moving on to obviously your TV film what sort
- 29:46Speaker 1: of stuff captures do you watch comedies is that aye cliche.
- 29:49Speaker 3: Aye no I do I do I love I love
- 29:51Speaker 3: comedy erm I like American comedy erm I much like
- 29:57Speaker 3: the stuff Darren likes, you know, kind of Norm Macdonald
- 30:01Speaker 3: and people like that. But I like stand-up as well.
- 30:05Speaker 3: I'm too much of a shitebag to actually do it.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Have you ever done it?
- 30:10Speaker 1: No.
- 30:10Speaker 3: I mean, I can sit behind my piano with a
- 30:12Speaker 3: mic and yap and have a laugh and stuff, but
- 30:15Speaker 3: I couldn't have charged somebody money to say, give me
- 30:19Speaker 3: your money and I'm going to make you laugh in
- 30:20Speaker 3: return for it. I couldn't do it because I'm too
- 30:22Speaker 3: much of a shitebag. but TV wise no I love
- 30:25Speaker 3: watching I love binging I think my big thing is
- 30:28Speaker 3: David Lynch and Twin Peaks and all that kind of
- 30:30Speaker 3: stuff I like some things that are a little bit.
- 30:32Speaker 6: Weird and a bit spooky a bit dark a bit
- 30:34Speaker 6: dark aye and Breaking Bad was my ultimate just incredible
- 30:41Speaker 6: show to watch and the one what was the one
- 30:44Speaker 6: Succession I loved that as well have.
- 30:46Speaker 2: You seen that no somebody mentioned that to me it's
- 30:48Speaker 2: incredible if you've not watched.
- 30:49Speaker 3: It please watch it and there's an episode set in
- 30:52Speaker 3: Dundee even though it's an American show, which is mental. No,
- 30:56Speaker 3: I love watching all that kind of stuff, and I
- 30:58Speaker 3: watch a lot of movies as well.
- 31:00Speaker 2: Movie-wise, which are?
- 31:02Speaker 3: Well, my favourite movie is, and I just have to
- 31:05Speaker 3: be open about this, is The Sound of Music, because
- 31:09Speaker 3: I loved it when I was a wee boy, and
- 31:12Speaker 3: ended up working for them, because they did this thing
- 31:16Speaker 3: in the theatres called Sing Along, A Sound of Music,
- 31:18Speaker 3: and people would go dressed as nuns and Nazis and whatever,
- 31:23Speaker 3: and sing along with the movie. And it became huge.
- 31:25Speaker 3: It started touring everywhere. So I got a job doing that.
- 31:29Speaker 3: Karen Dunbar had got the job actually. And she phoned
- 31:32Speaker 3: me up and went, I don't really want to do this.
- 31:36Speaker 3: You'd be brilliant at this. And I'm going, I know.
- 31:38Speaker 3: And she went, do you want me to pretend I'm
- 31:39Speaker 3: not well? I went, if you don't mind. So she
- 31:42Speaker 3: pretended she wasn't well, but I've got somebody else that
- 31:44Speaker 3: could do it. So I went and I did it
- 31:46Speaker 3: for years. And they ended up flying me over to
- 31:49Speaker 3: Salzburg and doing it.
- 31:50Speaker 2: I was about to say, whereabouts did you go then?
- 31:52Speaker 2: Far afield?
- 31:53Speaker 3: I did all the Scottish dates, so I did the
- 31:57Speaker 3: Playhouse and the Glasgow Kings and Aberdeen and things like that.
- 32:00Speaker 3: But when it came to the, I think it was
- 32:02Speaker 3: the 40th anniversary of it at the time, they flew
- 32:04Speaker 3: me over to Salzburg and I hosted it on the
- 32:07Speaker 3: actual location with one of the stars, the girl that
- 32:09Speaker 3: played Lisa. And I sang 16 going on 17 with her.
- 32:13Speaker 3: So it was just absolutely nuts. so that's my favourite
- 32:17Speaker 3: film but I've got loads of others like Airplane is
- 32:20Speaker 3: on more often than not in my house Groundhog Day,
- 32:23Speaker 3: I love I love Apocalypse Now and Monty Python stuff
- 32:32Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Life of Brian Life of Brian, yeah It's one of
- 32:37Speaker 1: your favourites isn't it?
- 32:39Speaker 2: I can keep watching it and watching it.
- 32:41Speaker 3: See if you listen to the new Rolling Stones single
- 32:44Speaker 3: It sounds like Brian's mum singing it. Once you hear it,
- 32:47Speaker 3: it'll ruin a few. She's singing in falsetto and it
- 32:50Speaker 3: just sounds like.
- 32:52Speaker 2: That's brilliant. I mean, the Holy Grail was good, but
- 32:55Speaker 2: the life of Brian was... I know.
- 32:58Speaker 3: I mean, that was her life when it came out.
- 32:59Speaker 2: Airplane's good as well, though. The wee sketches come up
- 33:02Speaker 2: in Ted's Riker.
- 33:04Speaker 3: I just... See when that came out, I think I
- 33:07Speaker 3: was probably about 11, right? 10 out of 11. And
- 33:11Speaker 3: there was a cinema at the bottom of our street
- 33:13Speaker 3: I went every day to see it every day to
- 33:16Speaker 3: see it playing on the it was the Christmas holidays
- 33:18Speaker 3: and I just every time I saw it and still
- 33:21Speaker 3: nowadays if I watch it now there's still things that
- 33:23Speaker 3: I've never noticed before I just think it's incredible it's.
- 33:28Speaker 4: Amazing how the old comedies are just kind of stopped
- 33:31Speaker 4: on it Fawlty Towers all the rest of them amazing
- 33:35Speaker 4: you don't get a lot of them coming on now
- 33:37Speaker 4: they're not PC enough.
- 33:39Speaker 3: But still Game seems to be the kind of Scottish
- 33:42Speaker 3: yeah thing that people really hold up as the best.
- 33:46Speaker 4: Stole Game was brilliant, especially the earlier ones, you know,
- 33:52Speaker 4: the first sort of six series were brilliant, so well written,
- 33:57Speaker 4: and the guys in it just being young, the old
- 34:00Speaker 4: people being young.
- 34:01Speaker 3: I know, and now it's like, need to get less
- 34:04Speaker 3: make-up on if we're doing it, don't need aged up
- 34:07Speaker 3: as much.
- 34:08Speaker 4: Two Doors Down, we had Johnny on that. I really
- 34:11Speaker 4: enjoyed that, I know.
- 34:12Speaker 2: Two Doors Down. You haven't really watched that, have you?
- 34:14Speaker 2: I haven't, no.
- 34:15Speaker 3: It's good. Johnny's a genius, isn't he?
- 34:20Speaker 2: He's brilliant, isn't he? His character in it is.
- 34:22Speaker 3: Because I did a show with him called Watson's Wind-Up,
- 34:26Speaker 3: which was a radio thing that was on every Saturday
- 34:30Speaker 3: before Time and Stuart. And we did it for seven
- 34:34Speaker 3: or eight years. But it wasn't just football, it was
- 34:37Speaker 3: politics and all that kind of stuff. And I learned
- 34:39Speaker 3: so much from, because I hadn't done an awful lot
- 34:41Speaker 3: of acting, I learned so much from Johnny Watson and
- 34:44Speaker 3: Philip Differ. They really were, that's where, I didn't go
- 34:49Speaker 3: to drama college or anything, I learned from these guys
- 34:52Speaker 3: and they're just dynamite.
- 34:53Speaker 2: Aye. You should watch it. I told you it was brilliant.
- 34:57Speaker 3: Aye, it's good.
- 34:58Speaker 2: It's a good show.
- 34:59Speaker 3: Yep.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Still Game was the one, I've seen it recently, I
- 35:01Speaker 1: think it was Limmy. Did you ever work with Limmy?
- 35:04Speaker 3: I've never worked with him, but I've bumped into him
- 35:06Speaker 3: once or twice.
- 35:07Speaker 1: He was doing the chat, and I think his show
- 35:11Speaker 1: came in at second, but Still Game was number one.
- 35:13Speaker 3: Aye. And he was quite happy with that.
- 35:15Speaker 2: He was delighted with that. He was delighted just to
- 35:18Speaker 2: be in that vicinity. But Still Game's special. My kids
- 35:22Speaker 2: all watch it. All through the years, they can relate
- 35:25Speaker 2: to it.
- 35:25Speaker 3: It's just because we all had grandpas like that.
- 35:28Speaker 1: And we all had an Isa.
- 35:29Speaker 3: Aye. Aye.
- 35:34Speaker 1: I remember meeting her at something I think you were
- 35:36Speaker 1: meant to be at it it was a charity night.
- 35:39Speaker 4: Yes I went to see them they'd done a thing
- 35:42Speaker 4: called Old Pals yeah in Belfast it was so you
- 35:48Speaker 4: had Sanjeev you had when she's not in make-up you'd
- 35:51Speaker 4: oh she doesn't look like the same person no she
- 35:53Speaker 4: doesn't look like the same person you had Tam when
- 35:56Speaker 4: she speaks you know it's her aye but they were
- 36:00Speaker 4: telling the stories of the show and everything else but
- 36:02Speaker 4: it was brilliant Aye You should.
- 36:03Speaker 3: Get Jane on here Yeah She's a good girl She's funny.
- 36:08Speaker 1: Aye she was good Slowly but surely work her way
- 36:10Speaker 1: through the Get Greg in that as well Aye Big
- 36:14Speaker 1: Fran coming on as well the quiz master That's right
- 36:18Speaker 1: Big Fran Aye Aye.
- 36:21Speaker 2: There's a unique one as well What was his one again?
- 36:24Speaker 2: The quiz member the quiz knee points Oh a knee
- 36:26Speaker 2: points prick The big angry big angry barman Bob as
- 36:31Speaker 2: well Bob the Barman.
- 36:34Speaker 3: Gavin.
- 36:35Speaker 2: Aye, he was in the whole Pals thing as well.
- 36:37Speaker 3: Aye.
- 36:37Speaker 2: Gavin Mitchell.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Aye, aye, aye. He'd be a good Doctor Who.
- 36:41Speaker 2: Aye.
- 36:41Speaker 3: Do you think he'd be a great Doctor Who?
- 36:43Speaker 2: Aye, he would actually. Aye, he was brilliant.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Right, well, we usually wind up with a recommendation. We
- 36:52Speaker 1: got the sound of music out of you, so maybe... Aye, no,
- 36:54Speaker 1: don't do that as my recommendation.
- 36:56Speaker 3: It's bad enough.
- 36:57Speaker 2: So we had John Spencer on last and.
- 37:00Speaker 1: He's kind of cheated a wee bit because he's went
- 37:02Speaker 1: for a series rather than a film.
- 37:04Speaker 3: Okay.
- 37:04Speaker 2: And it's The Lionesses.
- 37:06Speaker 1: Right.
- 37:06Speaker 2: Paramount, I'm sure he said it was. I think it's
- 37:08Speaker 2: like a CSI. I'm not too sure. I'm not too sure.
- 37:12Speaker 2: I haven't seen it myself.
- 37:13Speaker 1: So it's The Lionesses series, so if you want to
- 37:15Speaker 1: pick a series, we'll allow you that.
- 37:16Speaker 4: Okay.
- 37:17Speaker 2: His song was Eminem, Stan.
- 37:20Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, brilliant.
- 37:21Speaker 2: And his album was Justin Bieber, Swag, which I have
- 37:25Speaker 2: not heard.
- 37:26Speaker 3: Are you familiar? I've never heard that.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Who's that guy? Who is it? John Spencer, so he's
- 37:30Speaker 2: an ex-footballer.
- 37:32Speaker 3: Right.
- 37:33Speaker 2: So, again, over your head.
- 37:34Speaker 3: Over my head. Sorry, John.
- 37:36Speaker 1: That's his recommendations. Can you recommend a film, a song
- 37:39Speaker 1: and an album for our next guest?
- 37:40Speaker 3: Okay. My favourite film of last year was Sinners. Have
- 37:45Speaker 3: you seen Sinners? No. Right. Nobody's seen it. Everybody I
- 37:48Speaker 3: speak to hasn't seen it. It won loads of Oscars
- 37:50Speaker 3: and everything. It's the most entertained I've been by a
- 37:54Speaker 3: film in years. It's just, it starts off and you go,
- 37:57Speaker 3: all right, and then something happens and you go, what?
- 38:00Speaker 3: And then you're like, for an hour and a half,
- 38:02Speaker 3: you're going, oh! Incredible, please watch Sinners. It's just not
- 38:08Speaker 3: what you expect and it is really, really, really good. Song,
- 38:13Speaker 3: what am I listening to at the moment? I'm obsessed
- 38:20Speaker 3: with the Beatles just now as I have been all
- 38:22Speaker 3: my life but especially just now because I got I
- 38:26Speaker 3: got a new toy last week I got a Paul
- 38:28Speaker 3: McCartney bass guitar replica made by the same people and
- 38:33Speaker 3: somebody gave me it as a present and I'm just
- 38:35Speaker 3: I've not played it yet but I've actually I cuddled
- 38:39Speaker 3: it the first night I had I took it to
- 38:40Speaker 3: bed with me I took it to bed with me
- 38:42Speaker 3: and cuddled it.
- 38:43Speaker 2: That was my first album Paul McCartney.
- 38:46Speaker 3: What one?
- 38:47Speaker 2: Pipes of Peace.
- 38:48Speaker 3: Ah, brilliant album. Absolutely brilliant. I guess I'd be a
- 38:51Speaker 3: bit laughed at, but it was brilliant.
- 38:52Speaker 2: Oh, I liked it.
- 38:53Speaker 3: So, right, so song-wise, there's a Beatles song, Tomorrow Never Knows,
- 38:58Speaker 3: the last song on Revolver. Okay. Groundbreaking. Changed everything. Changed
- 39:02Speaker 3: everything about music. It's probably, because people used to go
- 39:04Speaker 3: on about Sgt Pepper as being, but it wasn't. It
- 39:06Speaker 3: was just before that, and it was this Revolver. The
- 39:09Speaker 3: whole album's great, but that last song, Tomorrow Never Knows...
- 39:14Speaker 3: That's where it all started, as far as I'm concerned. Cool.
- 39:16Speaker 2: An album?
- 39:18Speaker 3: An album? My favourite album ever is Moon Safari by Air.
- 39:22Speaker 3: You ever heard that?
- 39:23Speaker 2: No. More than you.
- 39:25Speaker 3: Ground.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Right.
- 39:25Speaker 3: Well, it's from the 90s. It's a kind of... I
- 39:30Speaker 3: put it on when I'm falling asleep and it is
- 39:33Speaker 3: just it's so many people's favourite ever album right get
- 39:36Speaker 3: a candle on and put the lights off and listen
- 39:39Speaker 3: to that whole album it's just brilliant I normally.
- 39:42Speaker 1: Put the recommendations on when I'm off car on the
- 39:44Speaker 1: way home but I'm not doing it with that one
- 39:45Speaker 1: if I'm going to fall asleep.
- 39:47Speaker 3: Aye just wait till you get Moon Safari Moon Safari
- 39:50Speaker 3: by Air, two French guys. It is the most beautiful
- 39:54Speaker 3: music you've ever heard.
- 39:55Speaker 2: Great.
- 39:56Speaker 1: Thank you for your recommendations. Thanks for coming on. We
- 39:59Speaker 1: wish you all the best for whatever the future holds.
- 40:02Speaker 2: Cheers, Tom. Cheers.
- 40:03Speaker 4: Thank you.