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Full Show Podcast: 04 November 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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  Speaker 1: early leadership with our the Supercenter, explore our the successories
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  Speaker 2: Wellcome onning to you and thank you so much for
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  Speaker 2: choosing the program coming up at the next hour and
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  Speaker 2: this age of data? Why is it that the Ministry
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  Speaker 2: of Health has no idea of what is happening in
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  Speaker 2: GP practices. We'll have that story for you in five
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  Speaker 2: We're running out of space to bury the dead and
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  Speaker 2: counselors are sitting on their hands. That story in ten.
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  Speaker 2: Why is the Malori party imploding that? In fifteen and
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  Speaker 2: it's Melbourne Cup Day, we're going to take you to
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  Speaker 2: Melbourn with Donnod Demeyo and lending for house buying is
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  Speaker 2: suddenly up big time? What does it all mean? West
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  Speaker 2: Pax Senior Economists. Is just before six. We'll have correspondence
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  Speaker 2: from right around the world and right around New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: and news as it breaks, and you can have your
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  Speaker 2: say by giving us a text. The number is ninety
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  Speaker 2: two ninety two and a small charge applies. It is
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  Speaker 2: seven after five. The agenda tay the fourth of November
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  Speaker 2: a thirty two year old man's fronted court in the UK,
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  Speaker 2: charge with eleven counts of attempted murder, ten from a
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  Speaker 2: train stebbing in Cambridge, this Shire, and another from an
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  Speaker 2: attack in London. Just hours earlier.
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Williams, who thirty two, appeared in the dock wearing
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  Speaker 3: a gray tracksuit, which is the kind of thing that's
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  Speaker 3: issued to people in police stations when their clothes have
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  Speaker 3: been taken away for forensic testing. He was charged with
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  Speaker 3: ten counts of attempted murder on the train at Huntington station.
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  Speaker 3: He was also charged with possession of a knife on
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  Speaker 3: that train at Huntington stationer and also charged with assaulting
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  Speaker 3: a police officer at Parkside.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, now to the United States where the government shutdown
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  Speaker 2: is in Today thirty four Tramps appeared on CBS News
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  Speaker 2: and he's called the Democrats lunatics. Sounds like it's not
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  Speaker 2: going to get solved, the shutdown. It's going to get
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  Speaker 2: shove you. Oh, it's going to get so how we'll
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  Speaker 2: get a job. Eventually they're going to have to vote.
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  Speaker 2: You're saying the Democrats will capitulate. I think they have to. Okay. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: our judge has extended the block of Trump's plans to
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  Speaker 2: send the National Guarden to Portland, and Bernie Sanders has
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  Speaker 2: been interviewed by The New York Times and he says, basically,
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  Speaker 2: there's no Democrat party left and to the sole survivor
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  Speaker 2: of the Air India crash which killed two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty one people on board. He's now done an interview
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  Speaker 2: with the BBC. He says he feels like the luckiest
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  Speaker 2: man alive.
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  Speaker 4: It isn't Medikalini. Still, I'm not billion. I'm only once.
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  Speaker 1: Soever, when did you realize when you were on that
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  Speaker 1: flight that something was wrong?
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  Speaker 4: It is very painful for me to explain that happened. Still,
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  Speaker 4: I lost everything to my brother. For me, I've lost
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  Speaker 4: my brother.
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  Speaker 2: And he's also suffering physically and mentally. And his advisors
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  Speaker 2: want more support from Air India.
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  Speaker 5: Three times we have an issued in invitation to them
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  Speaker 5: to come and sit with us and collaboratively and work
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  Speaker 5: together to try and help viswash Kumar and his family
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  Speaker 5: through this ordeal. Three times maybe either ignored us or
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  Speaker 5: turned us down. It is not acceptable.
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  Speaker 2: It's nine out to five.
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  Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early
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  Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickins and r V Supercenter explore r
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  Speaker 2: Be well, good morning to the early morning community. There's
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  Speaker 2: a big old yellow moon this morning. Did you see it?
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  Speaker 2: It's not a full moon, it's a waxing gibbis. It's
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  Speaker 2: a full moon on Thursday, and based on what I
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  Speaker 2: saw today, it's going to be a big, fat old
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  Speaker 2: moon on Thursday. So there's a treat for us early rises. Now,
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  Speaker 2: speaking of early rises, a shout out to the roading team.
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  Speaker 2: It's currently working on Esmond Road, which is a major
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  Speaker 2: feeder to the Auckland Northern Motorway. So what they're doing
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  Speaker 2: is resurfacing one entire side of the road. There's a
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  Speaker 2: small army there working against the clock. They've got to
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  Speaker 2: get the road ready for the morning rush hour. It's
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  Speaker 2: a very impressive feat of logistics and planning to get
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  Speaker 2: all the kits and the men there and get them working.
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  Speaker 2: And they've got a time they've got a time constraint
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  Speaker 2: on it, and I wish them all the best and
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  Speaker 2: pray that they are finish just in time for the
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  Speaker 2: rush hour. And while I'm here, i'd also like to
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  Speaker 2: make a shout out to the milkman I meet every
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  Speaker 2: morning at three forty five in the morning. He's been
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  Speaker 2: telling me tales of all the new buildings in the
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  Speaker 2: city and just how plush and well designed they are,
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  Speaker 2: and he's particularly impressed with the brand new One New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand building, which he says is something quite something to
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  Speaker 2: walk through, because while there may be hard times, people
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  Speaker 2: are still making money. Things are still ticking over, especially
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  Speaker 2: if you run a phone company or a bank, and
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  Speaker 2: that's something we're going to talk about later. In the
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  Speaker 2: wake of this fulsome result from Westpac where we saw
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  Speaker 2: yesterday big numbers net profit of one one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: ninety seven million, that's up thirteen percent, net operating income
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  Speaker 2: of three thousand and eighty nine million, up eight percent,
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  Speaker 2: and they're spending a little bit more too. They're employing people.
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  Speaker 2: Operating expenses of one thousand, four hundred and seventy one million,
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  Speaker 2: and that is up seven percent. So you know, that
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  Speaker 2: says things are still moving in this country. And we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk to the senior Westpac economist a bit later on
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  Speaker 2: to figure out whether this is a sign that the
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  Speaker 2: green shoots are actually starting to become real growth and
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  Speaker 2: when do we get the Flowers News Talk ZIB twelve
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  Speaker 2: after five. Now, can you believe that the Ministry of
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  Speaker 2: Health has no idea what's happening in GP practices? There
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  Speaker 2: is no data sharing between the GPS and the Ministry
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  Speaker 2: of Health. And because we know that primary care is
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  Speaker 2: the big thing, that's where you find out the very
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  Speaker 2: first stages of whether we've got some bills and some
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  Speaker 2: costs and some things to go through. So shouldn't something
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  Speaker 2: happen about that. We're going to talk to doctor Angus
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  Speaker 2: Chambers next from the chair of the GP Practice Owners
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  Speaker 2: Association and ask them why aren't they sharing the information?
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  Speaker 2: It is twelve after five.
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  Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and are the Supercenter explore r V successories
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  Speaker 1: and servicing more than one News talk said b.
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  Speaker 2: It's fourteen after five. Bob Reckins at Flower ten years away.
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  Speaker 2: Because the damage to this economy has been so huge
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  Speaker 2: over the past. He reckons we need to be patient,
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  Speaker 2: and he reckons we need to support this government for
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  Speaker 2: a long time right. A new New Zealand Initiative report
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  Speaker 2: is calling on the government to tap into GP data.
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  Speaker 2: It argues that ministers can track hospital visits, they can
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  Speaker 2: track prescriptions and even school attendance, but they can't see
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  Speaker 2: what's happening in GP clinics where most of the healthcare occurs,
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  Speaker 2: and direct info from doctors they reckon could help improve
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  Speaker 2: health outcomes and trim the health budget while they're rapit
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  Speaker 2: at it. So we've got doctor Angus Chambers with us.
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  Speaker 2: He is a chair of the General Practice Owners Association. Angus,
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  Speaker 2: good morning to you.
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  Speaker 6: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: So this report is called better Health through Better Data
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  Speaker 2: by a doctor Prabani Wood. Is this a good idea
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  Speaker 2: from doctor Wood that we share the data from GPS
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  Speaker 2: to the ministry?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, so I think it is. It depends on how
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  Speaker 6: it's done. That the spinner acknowledgedes a gap for quite
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  Speaker 6: a long time in our system, and I think I
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  Speaker 6: agree with her findings that of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, her report talks about Canada. They do it in Canada. Canada.
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  Speaker 2: Why do we not and why have we not collected
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  Speaker 2: data yet? You know what has been stopping us?
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's partly will you know, it has been collected
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  Speaker 6: in sort of piecemeal manners and you know, with some
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  Speaker 6: actually good results out of it. And it's been done
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  Speaker 6: by GP organizations phos gps themselves, but not systematically, and
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  Speaker 6: it really requires an investment to do it in a
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  Speaker 6: systematic way.
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  Speaker 2: You've read the report. Do you like her idea about
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  Speaker 2: how it should be managed?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: I do. I mean, I think the absolute key here
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  Speaker 6: is how patients feel about having their data in there,
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  Speaker 6: and to be I don't think they trust the government
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  Speaker 6: that well, although some sometimes they expect half of it
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  Speaker 6: there anyway, So a lot of arrangements around it that
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  Speaker 6: need to be done carefully, around governance and who've assed decisions,
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  Speaker 6: and it's very clear from her report that she believes
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  Speaker 6: and I think it's the Canada experience that you need
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  Speaker 6: the clinicians, the general practitioners and their spectationers have a
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  Speaker 6: governance over the data and so I think that that
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  Speaker 6: would give a lot of trust around the privacy issues
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  Speaker 6: and the good use of it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean you can share the data without actually
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  Speaker 2: sharing the name and the address, etc. And I know
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  Speaker 2: it's deeply ingrained about you know that then information you
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  Speaker 2: give to your GP should go no further. But at
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  Speaker 2: the same time that just you know, puts a handbrake
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  Speaker 2: on the health system.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, no, that's right. There are ways to manage that,
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  Speaker 6: so I don't disagree. I think it can be done
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  Speaker 6: in a good way, but it depends on how it's done.
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  Speaker 6: Who's in charge of it? All right?
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  Speaker 2: Anger, thank you so much. Angus has there, and of
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  Speaker 2: course Provadi Wood has said it. I wonder if the
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  Speaker 2: government is listening to it. It is seventeen minutes after
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  Speaker 2: five now. Apparently we're running out of places to put
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  Speaker 2: our dead people. The cemeteries are full, and the question
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  Speaker 2: is what are we going to do next? And are
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  Speaker 2: we making plans? Well, I've got that answer for you next.
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  Speaker 2: Here are news talks.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty out to five. Here's a story we should have
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  Speaker 2: done on Friday when it was Halloween. Apparently we're running
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  Speaker 2: out of room to bury the dead. The New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: Cemeteries and Crematoria Collective says Auckland and other regions are
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  Speaker 2: nearly a capacity, urging councilors to snap up land and
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  Speaker 2: they plan strategically for local symmetry spaces. So Daniel Crisp
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  Speaker 2: is the chair of the New Zealand Cemeteries and Crematoria
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  Speaker 2: Collective and joins me. Now, good morning to.
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  Speaker 7: Here, Daniel, Good morning Andrew.
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  Speaker 6: How are you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. Just how close are we to being full?
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  Speaker 7: Well, like to say, there are a few regions which
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  Speaker 7: are nearly there unfortunately, so maybe five years or less
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  Speaker 7: or less left of space, So you know that's not ideal.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we're trying to councils to plan proactively. When
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  Speaker 7: they've got about ten years left, they should be starting
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  Speaker 7: to consider it because it takes quite a while to
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  Speaker 7: acquire land.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how did they do it? How do you make
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  Speaker 2: a symmetry?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, that's the Public Works Act, which we know is
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  Speaker 7: getting a few tweaks at the moment, so hopefully that
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  Speaker 7: might help a little bit as well. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 7: a Public Works Act. Under the Burial Cremation Act, all
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  Speaker 7: councils are required to provide burial space, so there's a
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  Speaker 7: couple of legislative ways to do it. And then yeah,
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  Speaker 7: it's got to go through that process which can take
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  Speaker 7: several years.
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  Speaker 2: And New Zealand is still preferring to be buried rather
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  Speaker 2: than cremated.
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  Speaker 7: Various from city to city based on demographics, generally speaking,
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  Speaker 7: New Zealanders around to seventy five percent cremation now, but
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  Speaker 7: there are still a lot of communities and cultures which
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  Speaker 7: still prefer burial, which is fine. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 7: think we're ever going to get to the point where
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  Speaker 7: we're going to to the outlawing burial. That would just
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  Speaker 7: be ridiculous. So we need to provide these options. So
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  Speaker 7: councils need to think strategically and proactively about this thing.
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  Speaker 2: All right, And this is a bit dark as well.
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  Speaker 2: If you've ever been to Paris, of course, you go
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  Speaker 2: to the catacombs and that's quite remarkable, and that is
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  Speaker 2: basically everybody from a cemetery who were then stored in
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  Speaker 2: a mine, so they have more room for the city
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  Speaker 2: and for more cemetery, aim for more people. So will
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  Speaker 2: we ever get to that state where we might actually
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  Speaker 2: disinter people and put them elsewhere to make more space.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, there's a lot of other countries do that,
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  Speaker 7: and so it's it's a thing called limited tenure plots.
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  Speaker 7: It is something we're trying to start the conversation on
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  Speaker 7: it's very foreign to the islanders. We're pretty used to
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  Speaker 7: having our plot forever. But clearly that's not going to
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  Speaker 7: be an option forever to just keep something plots forever.
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  Speaker 7: We need to look at these other options as well.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, exactly your call is we need more semetriies
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  Speaker 2: and we should have started thinking about it five years ago. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Look, a lot of the councils that are in this
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  Speaker 7: predicament right now their fault. It's the fault of senior
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  Speaker 7: management or chief executives or councils five to teen years ago,
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  Speaker 7: and now they're stuck with the really crappy situation of
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  Speaker 7: running out of space. So I do feel for them.
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  Speaker 7: It is a complex thing to try and find land.
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  Speaker 7: But yet we're urging councils to put now so in
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  Speaker 7: another five or ten years time they're not in a
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  Speaker 7: similar situation.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Daniel, thank you so much for your time. That's
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Crisp, who is the chair of the New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: Cemeteries and Crematoria Collective. Now here's a fun fact I
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  Speaker 2: found researching for this. Apparently, in the last fifty thousand years,
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  Speaker 2: it's been estimated that one hundred and one billion people
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  Speaker 2: have lived and died on this planet, including the seven
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  Speaker 2: billion alive today. So that's a lot of people needing
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  Speaker 2: a lot of space once they're gone. Meanwhile, also, our
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  Speaker 2: local Catholic church is actually building a thing called a columbarium.
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  Speaker 2: It's a niche wall. Now. Columbarium is an architectural structure
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  Speaker 2: off in a wall within a cemetery or church grounds
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  Speaker 2: that has small compartments niches designed to hold a containing
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  Speaker 2: cremated remains. And that is an answer to you know,
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  Speaker 2: sprawling cemeteries. Meanwhile, Taylor sent me a text already and
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  Speaker 2: says it's time for high rises for the dead. Charming
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  Speaker 2: five twenty four, the early.
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  Speaker 1: Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio Power by News talks
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  Speaker 1: at me.
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  Speaker 2: Sure b. It is five twenty one, and it breaks
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  Speaker 2: my heart to see Maori representation in our parliament devolve
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  Speaker 2: into the mess it has today. To party Maori is
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  Speaker 2: obviously having a conniption with members at each other's throats
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  Speaker 2: when they should be battling to make sure to al
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  Speaker 2: Maori is getting through these hard times and staying healthy.
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  Speaker 2: But no, no, even the President, who should be the
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  Speaker 2: quiet force behind the scenes, is blasting party members in
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  Speaker 2: a social media kangaroo court. John Tamahiri seems to have
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  Speaker 2: no concept of the irony when he criticizes rogue members
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  Speaker 2: in the media and then he accuses that same media
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  Speaker 2: of being a white feeding frenzy, which is ripping the
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  Speaker 2: party apart. Hello, that was a casually facious slur. Wasn't
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  Speaker 2: a white feeding frenzy? And John, if you don't want
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: a feeding frenzy, then don't feed the sharks. It seems
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  Speaker 2: that it's in this party's DNA from top to bottom
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  Speaker 2: to course scenes and get photos and get headlines, and
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  Speaker 2: not to do the work to benefit the constituents, and
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  Speaker 2: has rent on Facebook about the Kupakinis. Tamaheri accused the
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  Speaker 2: mother and son of entitlement, avarice and greed, which is
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  Speaker 2: rich because the whole party rigs of ego and entitlement
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  Speaker 2: and John has always been as zen master of it
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  Speaker 2: and it's only been stoked along by the Time magazine
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  Speaker 2: naming that young member is one of the one hundred
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  Speaker 2: Emerging leaders in the world. Google Hanarrafiti mip Clark and
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  Speaker 2: you'll find her influence rests solely on being the youngest
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  Speaker 2: MP in one hundred and seventy years being Mari and
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  Speaker 2: ripping some paper and performing a harker in the house.
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  Speaker 2: She also apparently wrote a book about the moon when
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  Speaker 2: she was seventeen, but that is about it. Does that
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  Speaker 2: put her in the top one hundred. There are no
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  Speaker 2: concrete achievements, just one stunt and of course her youth.
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  Speaker 2: The Maori Party seem to think they're special just because
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  Speaker 2: they exist, and that is entitlement writ large. The Maori
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  Speaker 2: constituents deserve more from the people they gave the mandate to.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be this way. The Maori Party
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  Speaker 2: of Peter Sharples and Tarianatulia was not this way. This
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  Speaker 2: current breed. The money and the fame and the cameras
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  Speaker 2: seem to have gone to all the heads in the party,
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  Speaker 2: from the top to the bottom, from John all the
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  Speaker 2: way down. And it's time for that party to actually
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  Speaker 2: do some mahi. Or perhaps they should just register as
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  Speaker 2: a kapahaka group and no more news talk said be
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  Speaker 2: now the high rises for the dead that Taylor mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: He's come back to me with a text saying, I
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  Speaker 2: mean do it tastefully and yes, of course, the same
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  Speaker 2: problem with running out of a cemetery room is happening
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  Speaker 2: in Britain and now they are building high rise apartments
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  Speaker 2: for cemeteries, for burial plots, and we're talking seven store
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  Speaker 2: and you can go up stairs and lifts pass every
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  Speaker 2: niche all the way through. Because you know that's called well,
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  Speaker 2: it's called pragmatism, isn't it. Meanwhile, on the GPS, good morning,
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  Speaker 2: says Wendy a New Zealand Health. We're working on linking
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  Speaker 2: up with Management Health and GPS, but it was one
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  Speaker 2: of the programs that was cut with the costs to
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  Speaker 2: the IT and back office. There is another forty seven
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  Speaker 2: million to be cut again next year to Health New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand that is not being reported. That will wipe out
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  Speaker 2: any initiative like this, like getting the GPS to share
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  Speaker 2: or any automation improvements. So there's a warning for you.
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  Speaker 2: Did you listen to Mike's interview with Earlene TOLDU yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: I did, we all did, and we all had the
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: same questions. And I'll talk about that in a few
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: moments time. And the Melbourne Cup is on the way.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Did you know there's a bloke who put a bet
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: down in January and Auckland for seven dollars based on
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: twelve winners over the year. He got nine in the
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: first couple of days. But he's now sweating today on
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: one result, and that is one horse winning. We're at
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: least getting in the top three. And that horse is
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: named Here Be Come, Here, Become. That horse is called Bukaroo.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: If Bukaroo comes first, this fellow who did a seven
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: dollar bet in January will earn himself seven hundred and
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars. Okay, Melvin Cup with Dono Tobao ten
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: minutes away, used talks at.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: B Andrew Dickens on early edition with r V Supercenter
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: explore r v's accessories and surfacing all than one.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Used talks at.
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: Being take him for Favoustone.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: You wanted to.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: We here earlier. Just Kenzie and I Love of the
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: via Deans and that's her latest single, bub Baby Steps.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: She's coming to New Zealand next year now. Mark sent
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: me a text on ninety two ninety two saying a
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff, but at the end he says, hey, Andrew,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: one thousand, one hundred million is actually one point one
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: billion for Westpax profit. Come on, you can you can
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: do that. You could have said that instead, and I said, well,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I want to say to you Mark, I purposely said
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: one thousand, one hundred and ninety seven thousand million was
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: the profit for Westpac for the simple reason that I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: think people don't even comprehend a billion anymore. You say
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: a billion, they go, oh yeah, how much is that
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: going to cost? Five billion?
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: Sure?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, Oh no, sorry, it's going to go to six billion.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, No, a billion is one thousand million, and
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: that is a lot of zeros. Now everyone is talking
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: about Nolan Turtus media blitz yesterday and they're all saying
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the same thing. Nothing is any clearer than it was before.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Dame Nolean doesn't really know what Netball New Zealand's beef
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: with her is. Nobody knows what the player's beef with
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: no Leans, and Netball New Zealand doesn't know what to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: do about the whole thing. And we're all left with
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: deep concerns that nobody knows what they're doing in one
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: of our biggest professional sports. This is gold medal winning
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: dithering and we're all tired of it. Just fire someone
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and get on with it. Fire the Dane, if you've
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: got the guts, Fire the players. If you've got the
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: guts or fire the management, one has to go. It
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: will hurt, it may cost, but this extended period of
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: dilly delling is just hurting the sport more. There's a
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games to be won, and even more importantly, there's
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: a need to get the sport on a stable financial
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: footing because the money ain't flown in. But the way
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: they're procrastinating on this issue is preventing the work that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: needs to happen on the really big staff. It's twenty
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: one to six. It's time to go right around the nation.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: News Talk said, be all right, Jamie Cunningham from Otago,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: good morning to you.
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: Good morning.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Santana Minerals has lodged a fast track application to look
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: for gold in central Otago.
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: That's right. The companies uploaded more than nine thousand pages,
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: one hundred and thirty five reports and paid the three
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: hundred and ninety thousand dollars application fee for New Zealand's
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: biggest new gold project in forty years. CEO Damien Springs
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: says this kick starts it's five point eight billion dollar
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: Bendigo o Fair gold project, calling it a milestone for
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: the company and the region. He says it reflects years
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: of serious technical work by a Kiwi led team to
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: secure land, complete the science and consult locally on a
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: credible long term plan.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: All right, yes, s and Sam Neil, the famous actor
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: and winemaker from central Otago, launched a media blitz against this,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: saying this is going to wreck the Bendigo area. So
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: there we go. How's Otago's weather.
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: Cloud increasing today with a chance of shower from midday.
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: Westerly is turning southerly and a high of twenty.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: To chrastiuch, should we go? Clear? Shure, We're good morning
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: to you. Good morning, So we're off to Chrashjuwish Women's
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Hospital prisonry crash Uched Women's Prison. There's a bit of
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: pressure on to introduce a program to help mum.
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah, this is the Mother's Project and they already do
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: this in Auckland Prison Andrew. But this is a storybook
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: initiative so effectively it enables women who are in prison
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: to record bedtime stories for their children. On the art side,
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: the founder of Mother's Project, Stacy Shortle, says, there's no
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: question connection between mums and kids across the prison wires
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: have been proven to help both of their well being.
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: She says it's a practical way for kids to know
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: that present isn't a barrier to hearing their mum's voice
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: and is proven to help reduce some other's likelihood of reoffending.
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: Short All wants it at christ Church Women's Prison. She
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: says it would remind children that even if mum is
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: not physically there, she's there by voice.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: And how's the weather for Canterbury?
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: Nice?
• 21:45
  Speaker 11: Today?
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: Should be fine, easterly's developing this morning and twenty five
• 21:48
  Speaker 10: degrees ooh beautiful.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Max Toll from Wellington, good morning to you morning.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Council's got a spiffy new headquarters and now we know
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: how much it costs.
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: Yeah, this one's not earth shattering, but more point of
• 22:00
  Speaker 12: journalistic principle. Really shows how difficult the city Council can be.
• 22:03
  Speaker 12: They've been refusing for some time now to tell us
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: how much they're spending to rent and to fit out.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: These new headquarters.
• 22:11
  Speaker 12: It's a twenty five year lease with the former Data
• 22:14
  Speaker 12: comm building, so it's not a new building, a very
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: noticeable one. Data Com overlooking frank Kitts Park, two ten
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: or so level conjoined towers. We complain to the ombusman.
• 22:24
  Speaker 12: Why the secrecy? The ombusman wrote to the council's CEO.
• 22:26
  Speaker 12: Of course sided with us and they do now have
• 22:29
  Speaker 12: to tell us what that spend is. It's rate payer money,
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: the transparency thing. Two hundred and seven million dollars for
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: the lease and then more on top of that for
• 22:38
  Speaker 12: the fit out. Twelve hundred staff will be based there.
• 22:40
  Speaker 12: There's the mayoral office, the council chambers. The move from
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: they're currently up at the Terrace was supposed to happen
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: earlier this year, but it's been delayed by about a
• 22:49
  Speaker 12: year to early twenty twenty six now because I think
• 22:52
  Speaker 12: that fit out and getting everything right has been a
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: little more complicated than expected.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Well, goodwek from the Wellington News team for keeping the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Willington Council on the turn and keeping the rate players informed.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: How's your weather fine?
• 23:04
  Speaker 12: Today's stronger northerly is just sixteen the high in the city.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: All right to or can we go? Never let a
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: man a good morning to good morning here? So I
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: talked about this yesterday actually a watercare spill into the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Marhalan River which affected the oyster farmers up at Marholrang
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and they have to close down for twenty eight days
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: because of this spill. So what's next to.
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: Yes, correct, well, now we know that water Care is
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: offering financial support to these affected Auckland oyster farmers, so
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: you're quite right. The farms have got to remain closed
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: until later this month. Water Care says, now this overflow
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: was caused by a technical failure following a power sage
• 23:37
  Speaker 11: at the Warkworth pump station. So now water Care is
• 23:40
  Speaker 11: in discussions with Aquaculture New Zealand. They represent the affected
• 23:44
  Speaker 11: farmers and this is all to do with the financial support,
• 23:46
  Speaker 11: which is good because they do need it. Watercre says,
• 23:48
  Speaker 11: what they've been testing and the pond water now is
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: within safe levels and that's good. And they've got two
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: investigations into this incident.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: There one bloke's got to throw away eighty thousand oysters
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: flipping here that just because of the section. So it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: going to cost. But yeah, as I said yesterday, this
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: is not just one spill. No, they've had thirty nine
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: spills all controlled over the last year and they've got
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: consent to do two hundred and there's a bit of
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: a move saying that water Care should do a whole
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: heit more than worrying about one storm year.
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: So spirit of thought for those farmers. Yeah, not good.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: How's Hawkin's weather?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 24:23
  Speaker 13: Fine?
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: Apart from some morning cloud another hot day twenty two
• 24:27
  Speaker 11: the high here in all clouds.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: And I thank you neither. Okay. It's seventeen minutes to six.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: It's this what is it? The first Tuesday of November,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and that's always the race that stopped two nations Flemington
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the Melbourne Cup. Are conditions hard and fast? No, they
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: had not. Donald Demayer with details next here on news talks.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Hereb International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes to six to Australia. We go, more specifically
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: to Melbourne we go. Donald Tomorrow, Good morning to you.
• 24:58
  Speaker 13: Good morning.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: It's Cup day and you're up early because you're going.
• 25:03
  Speaker 13: I am going and I will be getting ready very
• 25:06
  Speaker 13: very shortly.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: But first I'm going to tell you that.
• 25:08
  Speaker 13: We are very very excited about the one hundred and
• 25:11
  Speaker 13: sixty fifth running of the Melbourne Cup. The Cultural Institution,
• 25:16
  Speaker 13: twenty four horses vying for victory, and again we know
• 25:20
  Speaker 13: that I'm personally backing Jamie Melham, who is the female jockey,
• 25:26
  Speaker 13: the jockey that won the core Field Cup last month,
• 25:28
  Speaker 13: and she says that she did a little rain dance
• 25:31
  Speaker 13: and it's kind of worked. So we're talking about the
• 25:33
  Speaker 13: weather a lot in the lead up to the race
• 25:35
  Speaker 13: because it does look like it's going to be raining
• 25:38
  Speaker 13: all day and it might even still be raining during
• 25:41
  Speaker 13: the race. There was a dumping, a drenching yesterday and yeah,
• 25:46
  Speaker 13: the rain has not gone away. But to her horse
• 25:49
  Speaker 13: loves the rain apparently, so it's all good. But interestingly
• 25:53
  Speaker 13: on a New Zealand horse, I might add smoke in romans.
• 25:56
  Speaker 13: Jamie Mallam's husband is also run the Melbourne Cup. Ben
• 26:01
  Speaker 13: Meloam is also a jockey, so they're up against each other,
• 26:04
  Speaker 13: so they might be making history in another way as well.
• 26:06
  Speaker 13: So let's see who wins out of those two. What
• 26:09
  Speaker 13: else can I tell you? The National anthem will be
• 26:12
  Speaker 13: sung by none other than Greta Bradman. Yes, the grandchild
• 26:17
  Speaker 13: of Sir Donald Bradman. Isn't that lovely?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: And I've met Greta. She had an album yea, yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: she had a now Ma out about six or seven
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: years ago. She came here and she's interviewed on my
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Sunday News sorts in b show. She's a great singer,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: she's a great, great person. Fantastic this rain.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: How wonderful.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: This rain is going to flatten all the fascinators.
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: Yes, but pillboxes are in this year, so we're okay,
• 26:40
  Speaker 13: We're okay this year okay.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: And what are you going to wear?
• 26:45
  Speaker 13: Well, I'm actually really into vintage wear, so I've actually
• 26:49
  Speaker 13: gone and bought myself a beautiful slick black suit and
• 26:52
  Speaker 13: a lovely milliner Melbourne milliner called Renee Anderson made me
• 26:56
  Speaker 13: this gorgeous thing to put in my head with the
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: handcut red leather flowers. So I'm very much looking for
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: to getting all dot up and heading to the track
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: for very shortly.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And don't forget to your umbrella. And I thank you
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Donald tomorow And just a few things about this. On
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: the racing side, there are no New Zealand trained runners
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: this year, but there are two New Zealand breads, so
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: we've bred them, but Ozzie's owned them. The two horses
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: that are Kiwi's torron Zeno and of course Smoking Romans
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: that we've been talking about before. In fact, because there's
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: what Ozzie ten million dollars. That's what eleven point four
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: million New Zealand in the stake. Twenty one of the
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: twenty four horses in today's race are actually bred in
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the Northern Hemisphere and two are bred in New Zealand
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: and only one bread in Australia. There are eight Irish Breads,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: seven French Bread, three of British Bread, two for the US,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: one from the Japan. These horses are mostly Australian owned.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: They have raced in Australia for a while. But there
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: we go. Australia is not making good horses. Is eleven
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: to six News Talk SIVY. All right, finally some good
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: economic news. More people are getting mortgages. Centric data out
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: today shows new residential mortgage lending is up over twenty
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: percent year on year for the second month in a row.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: So to discuss this, I'm joined by Westpac's chief economists
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Kelly Echold. So Hello, Kelly, good morning. Does this mean
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: the economy is back on track or what?
• 28:18
  Speaker 14: Well? I think it's sitting in the right direction. It's
• 28:20
  Speaker 14: still pretty early days yet, and many of the indicators
• 28:24
  Speaker 14: for growth for where we are now are still a
• 28:26
  Speaker 14: bit subpar, but certainly those lower interest rates are starting
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: to flow through.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: How much of this new lending is from first home buyers.
• 28:35
  Speaker 14: There is some of it, although I would have to
• 28:37
  Speaker 14: say that when we look at the credit statistics, we
• 28:40
  Speaker 14: actually see the investors are the strongest part of the
• 28:44
  Speaker 14: market so far, but some of the early indications we've
• 28:47
  Speaker 14: seen in the last few months suggest that the more
• 28:50
  Speaker 14: kind of like low income marginal buyer is more important.
• 28:54
  Speaker 14: So that's the first time buias there.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So the investors are that because the tax thing that
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: happened after the last selection and finding the interest rates
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: of form.
• 29:03
  Speaker 14: Yeah, well, I think particularly it's the lower interest rates
• 29:06
  Speaker 14: that are important for the investors. It just means that
• 29:10
  Speaker 14: that hurd or rate of return you need to beat
• 29:13
  Speaker 14: is a bit lower. And obviously the tax changes that
• 29:16
  Speaker 14: were brought in by this government as well are obviously helpful.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So of course we all look to the RBNZ and
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank and try to figure out what they're
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: going to do next. Will they be hearing you today
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: looking at these numbers and thinking they've done enough or
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: do you think we're still on track for another cut
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: this month?
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 29:34
  Speaker 14: I think we're still on track for another cut this month.
• 29:37
  Speaker 14: I mean, most of the data, as I've said, has
• 29:39
  Speaker 14: been a little bit subpar.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: Actually, I think.
• 29:41
  Speaker 14: They might have been a little bit worried about that.
• 29:43
  Speaker 14: But yesterday, for example, we did get a really good
• 29:46
  Speaker 14: month of building consens number and it sort of went
• 29:49
  Speaker 14: up to seven point two percent for the month. That
• 29:51
  Speaker 14: was the first the third big month in a row,
• 29:55
  Speaker 14: So that will be relieving them. I think that the
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: things are starting to pen out. Is expected that interest
• 30:01
  Speaker 14: rates have gone down a long way, and that's the
• 30:03
  Speaker 14: leading edge of the recovery, but there's still quite a
• 30:07
  Speaker 14: long way to go here, and it is just one
• 30:09
  Speaker 14: set of indicators as well.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: So you had a good profit yesterday, up sixteen percent,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: a net profit of one one hundred and ninety seven
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: million dollars. Actually it is up thirteen percent. So how
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: much can we thank this increase in lending for your
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: success over the course of this year.
• 30:26
  Speaker 14: Well, I mean the lending growth has actually still been
• 30:29
  Speaker 14: a bit subpar. I mean that it is actually starting
• 30:31
  Speaker 14: to improve. So I mean, if we look at business lending,
• 30:34
  Speaker 14: for example, it's finally poked up to around looking at
• 30:38
  Speaker 14: my number here, three point seven percent, So that's sort
• 30:41
  Speaker 14: of the highest level since about twenty twenty three. I mean,
• 30:45
  Speaker 14: I think we're looking forward to a better operating environment
• 30:47
  Speaker 14: for the whole economy in the next year.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: All right, So are we beyond green shoots? And do
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: we are we actually starting to poke out of the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: ground for a metaphor or an allegory that you know
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: that's fit.
• 31:01
  Speaker 14: Oh, I think we're actually just seeing the odd green
• 31:04
  Speaker 14: shoot poking out at the moment. We need to put
• 31:06
  Speaker 14: a water on it, basically in a bit of time
• 31:09
  Speaker 14: so that you can actually see something a bit more
• 31:11
  Speaker 14: than that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Well, Kelly Echold, I thank you so much for your
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: time today. Kelly Echold is the senior economist from a
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: chief economist from a Westpac who did that profit And again,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say one one hundred and ninety seven
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: million dollars up thirteen net operating income three thousand and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: eighty nine million dollars up eight percent. And again I'm
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: saying three thousand million instead of three billions. So you
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: just figure out how much money we're talking about here.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: And here's to Robin who sent me a text Andrew,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: if you stack one hundred dollar bills a meter high,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: that's exactly one million dollars. But you need to stack
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: them one killer meter high to get to a billion.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: That's how much a billion is. And I would say that, yeah,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: that might actually make it real for people who just
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: so casually save three billion, four billion, five billion, Come on,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: thousands of millions.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: analysis earlier this year with him Andrew Dickens and are
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the Supercenter explore our these accessories and servicing fall in
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: one news talks.
• 32:11
  Speaker 14: That'd be Now.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know much about racing, but i'm the fact
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: that only one out of the twenty four horses in
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: the Melbourne Cup are bred in Australia. Texas says Australia
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: breds top horses, but they specialize in sprinters because most
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: of the races in OZ are sprints and in general
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: it's a better economic investment. So the stayers are coming
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: from the northern Hemisphere and to from New Zealand, and
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Mike Hosking joins me this morning. Good morning, Mike, greetings
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to you. No Lean interview was well, I think everybody's
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: saying it made things worse.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: Yes, it did, unfortunately, and so but you know, what
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: do you do? What can you do?
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Have a backburn and do something.
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: Well, yeah, you could, I suppose if I had my way. Now,
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: I'd like to hear from Matt Winner I or Jenny
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  Speaker 8: Wiley who runs I talk to Matt last Friday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: and what do you say?
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  Speaker 2: Nothing?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 8: So what you what you'd like to I'm told behind
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  Speaker 8: the scenes it's a thing that I won't elaborate on,
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  Speaker 8: but the moment you open it up, it's Pandora's box
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  Speaker 8: and once you are into it, it's a catastrophic shambles.
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  Speaker 8: And it's one of those semi it's one of those
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  Speaker 8: semi intangible things that's a beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Now look look just either father Dame, fire the players
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  Speaker 2: or fire the management. Just do something.
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  Speaker 8: Shouldn't have shouldn't have ever got to that part, have
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  Speaker 8: started saying the complaints are they go, well, that's that
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  Speaker 8: they're not happy. Then they're no longer in the silver pins.
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  Speaker 8: The ends, simple as that. Hayleam Lawson this morning, I
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  Speaker 8: haven't I don't think he's done an interview with anyone
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  Speaker 8: here this year at all. Great, so we'll talk to him.
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  Speaker 8: He's currently in Arizona playing golf ahead of this weekend's
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  Speaker 8: Brazilian Grand Pro.
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  Speaker 2: Have he's hanging out with people from forward. They like him,
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  Speaker 2: they do like him.
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  Speaker 8: Hopefully they'll like him next year.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, so we'll ask him about that. Well that,
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  Speaker 2: of course, very good stuff. Okay, The make Casting Breakfast
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