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S6 E2 The Trouble with Garrett · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Um that was the Ben Bitches allergy season. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and it didn't go away, so I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: expected these these bitching segments to actually go somewhere and
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  Speaker 1: I'm also sore. I just gotta tell you about Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, we need to talk about how you did
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  Speaker 1: a marathon yesterday. Yeah, my mom and I did together.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. Ben, tell me everything. Marathons are mind
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  Speaker 1: boggling to me because back in high school we had
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  Speaker 1: to do two and a half miles. That was what
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  Speaker 1: you if you did two and a half miles and
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  Speaker 1: twenty minutes. I knew gotten a um, and I suffered
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  Speaker 1: through that. So how did you do almost twenty six?
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  Speaker 1: So I do I I do sprints, So I do
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  Speaker 1: thirteen miles sprints. So it's they're half marathons. Oh you
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  Speaker 1: did a half marathon? Okay, yeah, so I did thirteen
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  Speaker 1: miles yesterday trying to get my personal record. My goal
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  Speaker 1: was to be below seven minutes and thirty seconds. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I actually got my goal. I went seven minutes and
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  Speaker 1: twenty second miles on average, which is pretty good for me.
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  Speaker 1: My mom, who's fifty five, did eight minute thirty second
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  Speaker 1: miles for thirteen miles. That's it's pretty good. It's so
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  Speaker 1: so amazing. I can see doing that for two miles. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm hurting today, um, really bad. You know who was
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  Speaker 1: there randomly? Dan Cox? Oh? Yeah, you took a picture
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  Speaker 1: with him? Yeah, yeah, I didn't know he's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: out there, but he was repping his met con supplements,
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  Speaker 1: which are incredible. By the way, I took him before
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  Speaker 1: the race, and um, he ended up doing the race.
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  Speaker 1: He ran. I mean he could literally watch me run
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  Speaker 1: the whole time, which I think was part of his plan.
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  Speaker 1: Well he's she does Um one are those things called
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  Speaker 1: the Matt Man things? Iron Man? Yeah, he does the
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  Speaker 1: Man things, which you know, if I can't even conceptualize
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  Speaker 1: a marathon, I mind blown by iron men. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's wild. Um. I mean, honestly, today my legs
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  Speaker 1: feel like concrete. Uh, I feel like I have the
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  Speaker 1: flu just because of all the lactic gaste. Um. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit down out today. Actually want to
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  Speaker 1: ask you to just carry this podcast, take it through,
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  Speaker 1: because we have a lot to talk about even outside
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  Speaker 1: of the episode. We we wouldn't be a pop culture
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  Speaker 1: I think we call ourselves a pop culture Bachelor focused
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  Speaker 1: podcast if we didn't talk about the Garrett controversy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: when we whenever we have a big controversy, and this
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  Speaker 1: is a big controversy imagination, we bring in one of
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  Speaker 1: our favorite guests, Jackie from the Hollywood Reporter. Shill Phillis
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  Speaker 1: in all the details all the notes. But before we
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  Speaker 1: bring Jackie on, actually I want to hear just a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. What are your initial thoughts when you heard
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  Speaker 1: that Garrett had liked pictures and memes on social media. Um,
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  Speaker 1: that we're a little barge vulgar. Uh. Some called him racist.
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  Speaker 1: UM and insensitive were the words that were explained. I
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  Speaker 1: would say that they are insensitive. I would say it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely not a good look. Do I think we should
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  Speaker 1: strongly judge him based on favorited things? I don't know. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I do. I do have to say. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a difference between liking things and
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  Speaker 1: then like creating the social media meme or or tweet themselves.
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  Speaker 1: But it's it's just not a good look. Do I
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  Speaker 1: think that Garrett is racist. I don't think so. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't met him. Um, you know, his apology came out.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to Jackie about that. I'm with you, Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: I look back and I was kind of thinking through
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  Speaker 1: this situation, and I don't know in what context and
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  Speaker 1: when he liked these pictures. Hopefully he's learned his lesson.
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  Speaker 1: It's important learn your lesson when you make mistakes like this.
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  Speaker 1: But I follow some social media accounts I know I
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  Speaker 1: do right now that come out with memes and pictures
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  Speaker 1: that are derogatory and are probably hurtful to some people,
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  Speaker 1: including Christians. You know, some of them are anti um
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  Speaker 1: Christian and I followed them because some of their stuff
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  Speaker 1: is informing. Some if it's funny, so it makes me laugh.
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  Speaker 1: So it's absolutely crazy. And so my question is now,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the listeners really to email us
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  Speaker 1: in their opinions on this, because we're pretty open. I
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  Speaker 1: think you and I talked about this earlier, and you
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  Speaker 1: and I both are kind of sitting here going, yes,
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  Speaker 1: totally incorrect and inappropriate for him to like space pictures.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them are really hurtful. There's some there's some
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  Speaker 1: stuff that he liked that's like, that's not funny in
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  Speaker 1: any context. Yes, some of them, some of them like
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  Speaker 1: oh bad, bad, like terrible, and so you know, actually,
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  Speaker 1: one thing that I think UM we want to get
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  Speaker 1: away from as a generation we've done on try to
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  Speaker 1: do on the podcast is you know, in sensitive things,
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  Speaker 1: hurtful things, sinful things, we don't want to support, but
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  Speaker 1: we also want people to be free UM to express themselves,
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  Speaker 1: because then you can really say do I like this person?
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  Speaker 1: Do I agree with this person? Do I not? You know,
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  Speaker 1: we don't all have to be robots, we don't all
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  Speaker 1: have to understanding get along with each other. We can
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  Speaker 1: do controversial things. And that just means that some of
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  Speaker 1: these people you're gonna say, I don't agree with you
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  Speaker 1: and I don't really like you because of the way
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  Speaker 1: that you're you take your stance and you publicize it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want us all to become the same. That's
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  Speaker 1: my fear. And and but a lot of this stuff
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  Speaker 1: that Garrett was was liking is totally inappropriate. And so
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  Speaker 1: let's bring on Jackie from the Hollywood Reporter to give
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  Speaker 1: us more information on exactly what happened during this controversy.
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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hi, welcome back. It's always good to talk
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  Speaker 1: to you. But there's always a secret, like darkness. We
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  Speaker 1: know something has happened when Jackie, I know. So I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to start off by Ashley, thank you, grasp and
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  Speaker 1: you're happy news and that we can dive into it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, it's a nice thing. Are you talking
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  Speaker 1: about it all? Thanks? I get to see Ashley making
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  Speaker 1: out everywhere now all over my social media's pictures of
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  Speaker 1: Ashley and Jared just mackin, well, cool it down soon,
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  Speaker 1: I like, I mean, hey, don't cool it. It's really
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  Speaker 1: hard to get Jared Um on video without him doing that.
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  Speaker 1: To be honest, Hey, Jackie, real quick. Um, we have
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  Speaker 1: a controversy in Badge donation, one that you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think rivals necessarily what happened last year during Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: but one that is definitely causing national attention and one
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  Speaker 1: that we should approach and talk about. Can you fill
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  Speaker 1: our listeners in a little bit on this Garrett controversy
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  Speaker 1: um and kind of his social media behavior over the
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  Speaker 1: last few years. Yeah. So it came out really right
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  Speaker 1: after the show premiered, which is kind of unfortunate timing
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  Speaker 1: Rebecca Um her first week of the show. This kind
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  Speaker 1: of took over as a week one story. But um,
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  Speaker 1: there were screen grabs showing an Instagram account that was
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  Speaker 1: identified as Garrett Um liking a series of offensive posts
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram. Um. They were posts that kind of they
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  Speaker 1: mocked a range of things from like feminists, to undocumented
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  Speaker 1: immigrants to some fake news story stories. Um, it was
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  Speaker 1: concerning I think, but it wasn't entirely clear if it
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  Speaker 1: was his Instagram account, and it wasn't things he posted,
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  Speaker 1: It was just things that he liked that were shown
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  Speaker 1: on screen grabs. UM. So Becca was asked about it
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  Speaker 1: and she said she couldn't really speak for what someone
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  Speaker 1: else does on Instagram, which is definitely makes sense, um,
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  Speaker 1: but that people were entitled to their own opinion. And
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  Speaker 1: then later in the week, Garrett actually released a statement
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  Speaker 1: taking responsibility, apologizing um and saying, you know, he vowed
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  Speaker 1: to do better kind of both on social media and
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  Speaker 1: in life. UM, and he didn't really realize the power
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  Speaker 1: behind you know, double tapping on Instagram, which is kind
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  Speaker 1: of an interesting conversation. This is all brought up over
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  Speaker 1: the last Yeah, we're listening to this and a should
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  Speaker 1: turn to kind of dissect and and Ashley and I
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  Speaker 1: were talking about our own personal experiences with this before
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  Speaker 1: I throw it over to Ashley because she does have
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  Speaker 1: a story that kind of relates back to her personally.
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  Speaker 1: How in your opinion, Jackie, and I know this is
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  Speaker 1: not this is an opinion, UM, so feel free to
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  Speaker 1: kind of pass it off here. How should we be
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  Speaker 1: viewing this? I mean, here's how he Here's how I
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  Speaker 1: see them, And I could not be communicating this as
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  Speaker 1: clear as I want to be. Do I agree with
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  Speaker 1: the things that Garrett was liking? No, I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's right. I don't think it's it's helpful.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's beneficial. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: sharing light and love with this world. But should my
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  Speaker 1: expectation be that just because I disagree that I shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: allow others to like stuff? I mean it. All it
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  Speaker 1: does for me is it allows me to see a
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  Speaker 1: better judge of character, gives me a clearer picture of
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  Speaker 1: the person, and allows me to say, Okay, I either
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  Speaker 1: agree with this person or I don't, which I want
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  Speaker 1: to live in a world where I can disagree with somebody.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want us all to be liking and agreeing
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  Speaker 1: on the same things all the time. That's that's not
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  Speaker 1: that's that takes away the individualism of life. And so
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  Speaker 1: at any level when we look at social media, now,
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  Speaker 1: are we all to be holding up an expectation that
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  Speaker 1: everybody will be liking the same thing? I actually think
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  Speaker 1: that's what Secca was trying to say, And I know
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  Speaker 1: she's imagine in a tough position because she can't really
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  Speaker 1: talk about how far any of these guys make it
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  Speaker 1: on the season. Um, but I think that's what she
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  Speaker 1: was trying to say, was that if this happened and
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  Speaker 1: I'm dating someone, I'm going to have a conversation about
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  Speaker 1: this and we'll get to the bottom of it. And
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  Speaker 1: people are entitled to their opinions, and that's what's being
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  Speaker 1: in our country. It's about basically, to paraphrase what she said.
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  Speaker 1: So I think she agrees with you there that it's
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  Speaker 1: a conversation. I think the unfortunate thing is just you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't known until now, so it just brings
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  Speaker 1: up a whole new level of conversations. I guess what
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  Speaker 1: a terrible way to start your bachelor's season. Um, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: why we have Jack in the phone here? I know
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  Speaker 1: you and I were talking and learning from your mistakes
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  Speaker 1: and learning from the things that you do that hurt
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  Speaker 1: people as part of a life, and it's part of
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  Speaker 1: us growing up and maturing and something we all do
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  Speaker 1: want all want to do all the time. Actually, you
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  Speaker 1: have a story that kind of relates back to this.
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  Speaker 1: Do you mind sharing? Yeah? So I'm thinking, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're scrolling on social media or whether you're in
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  Speaker 1: the interview room during Bachelor in Paradise as I was
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  Speaker 1: batch back in Bachelor in Paradise three, where I definitely
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  Speaker 1: threw out some risque and I have to say probably
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  Speaker 1: offensive things that I never meant to say with ill
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  Speaker 1: will like it. It wasn't deep. It was just like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: like that you say that will be funny. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. I think it's funny, and then like you
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  Speaker 1: say it, and then like this guy probably going through
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  Speaker 1: social media's like oh ha ha, he never really meant it,
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  Speaker 1: Like he doesn't. I don't think it demonstrates much of
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  Speaker 1: his his deep character. You with that, Ben, Well, I
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  Speaker 1: think it would help be helpful. You shared with me
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of an example of this earlier, so that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a difference because there's one time, like on on
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  Speaker 1: Bats in Paradise through, I definitely said offensive things and
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was funny in the moment. Realized afterwards
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  Speaker 1: that was the most immature, um just like a completely
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  Speaker 1: unacceptable thing to say, and I felt bad about it
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  Speaker 1: seeing it back and I was like, oh that was bad.
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  Speaker 1: How stupid was I? I did not mean anything bad
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  Speaker 1: by it. However, I don't want. I do think that
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  Speaker 1: there's like a little bit of a difference between Lee's
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  Speaker 1: tweets during Rachel's season, which were just blatantly racist and
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  Speaker 1: seemingly coming from a bad place, and him crafting them
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  Speaker 1: himself to Garrett like like frivolously perhaps liking these these
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  Speaker 1: memes or whatever. I agree with you there. I also
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  Speaker 1: think it's you know, a lot of people we're saying,
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  Speaker 1: how does the show not vet social media? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's very It's really hard to find to see what
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  Speaker 1: someone likes on Instagram. UM. It's definitely different than going
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  Speaker 1: back and checking you know, Twitter feed, um, which shows
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  Speaker 1: you just it's a different kind of activity. Something sorry,
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  Speaker 1: something happened to me. Um. I liked to tweet quote
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  Speaker 1: from Maya Angelou a year and a half ago, and
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  Speaker 1: it was it was nuts the way people took that
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  Speaker 1: that favorited tweet and then they started this huge political
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  Speaker 1: discussion under like my photos on Instagram. It just it
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  Speaker 1: was amazing the power of one favorited tweet and how
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  Speaker 1: it could roll over onto all these different platforms. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought, a quote from Maya Angelou, how are people
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  Speaker 1: assuming my political affiliation or my beliefs based on this
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  Speaker 1: one simple favorited quote of hers. Wow, yeah, we we live.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so, here's how I think we sum this up.
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  Speaker 1: What was Garrett was doing? Um that he he's apologized
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  Speaker 1: and he came out and he said, hey, I don't
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  Speaker 1: exactly agree with the things that I was liking. And
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  Speaker 1: so uh, if all we have the basis on is
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  Speaker 1: his now words and his apology, then we're saying, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't agree with the things he was liking. What
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  Speaker 1: is our response? And I think our response here is
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  Speaker 1: noticing And for anybody out there listening. A year ago,
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  Speaker 1: if you would have told Garrett that his social media
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  Speaker 1: would have been analyzed, um by millions of people, he
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  Speaker 1: would have said, how and you're crazy. But today that
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  Speaker 1: happens to him because he's entered into a world that
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  Speaker 1: is under a microscope. And so it just shows us
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  Speaker 1: the power of everything. We're liking, everything we're commenting on,
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  Speaker 1: everything we're posting. Make sure that this stuff is filtered
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  Speaker 1: through your lens and your belief system, because if if
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  Speaker 1: Garrett is sitting here today saying this is an exactly
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  Speaker 1: at all what I believe. I was just liking things
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  Speaker 1: priviously and later and sitting on my couch, being lazy,
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  Speaker 1: double tapping whatever scrolled through my my feet. If that's
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  Speaker 1: the case, he still has to take responsibility for the
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  Speaker 1: things he liked. However, we also have to understand that
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  Speaker 1: the power of any of our thumbs nowadays has an impact.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's what Garrett's noticed in the day.
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  Speaker 1: So let this be a lesson for all of us.
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  Speaker 1: Watch out what you say, but also filter through the
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  Speaker 1: lens of what do I actually believe? Do I actually
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  Speaker 1: believe in the things I'm liking? It's important to notice that, Jackie,
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  Speaker 1: do you have anything to add As far as the
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  Speaker 1: fan Bachelor Nation response goes who is his favorite stuff? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think I mean I would encourage everyone to read
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  Speaker 1: his full statement if they haven't, just because that was
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  Speaker 1: somewhat unexpected that a contestant who hasn't been eliminated would
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  Speaker 1: speak out. So that shows you kind of the power
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  Speaker 1: of the situation. And I think him addressing it really
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  Speaker 1: helped to at least put a positive until everyone can
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  Speaker 1: hear from him again. Be has like you're saying he
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  Speaker 1: took responsibility for it. He's not saying he agrees with everything.
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  Speaker 1: He is saying he wants to learn and grow from there.
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  Speaker 1: So I do think he's taking the right step. And
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  Speaker 1: then I think people should really just have to wait
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  Speaker 1: and see when he's able to really address it further
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  Speaker 1: and go into detail. Do you foresee the show making
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  Speaker 1: any edits or adding in anything because of because of this?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a really good question. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: imagine this will come up once you get to the
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  Speaker 1: end where Chris Carrettson has an opportunity to edit something
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  Speaker 1: in or into one of the reunion specials, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the mente all or obviously the after the final rows,
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  Speaker 1: if it makes it that far. But that is an
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  Speaker 1: interesting question. They've done things like that before when they've
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  Speaker 1: got so big that they had to address it. But
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  Speaker 1: this just might be, you know, his statement might have
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  Speaker 1: addressed it for now. I wonder, Jackie, if somebody sits
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  Speaker 1: uh in the press and you're gonna be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: interested in interviewing some of the contestants as they come
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  Speaker 1: off the show. And I mean, from the looks at
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  Speaker 1: things right now, it looks like Garrett's going to be
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  Speaker 1: around awhile, so let's assume that, I mean, we don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but just by him coming out with making a statement.
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  Speaker 1: We understand that there's a power behind what just happened
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  Speaker 1: that people you know that he is a main character
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  Speaker 1: in the show. Will the press fall back on this
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  Speaker 1: once he once he is eliminated, or if he is
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  Speaker 1: with Becca, if there are a couple, will they ask
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  Speaker 1: these questions post show? Let's get I will I would? Um,
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  Speaker 1: I think that they would. I don't. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that just because there was a statement that there aren't
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  Speaker 1: still questions just because now you've heard his side. But
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  Speaker 1: how does this really affect isn't because relationship? And will
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  Speaker 1: any of this play out on the show? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know the show typically doesn't really air conversations about politics,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: which maybe should be something that changes. But Becca does
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: seem like someone who would ask. I mean she she
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: has said she asked the right question. She felt like
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: she did so whether she got the answer she needed
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: off their or on air, you know, if they if
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: they don't play out for the season, then those are
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: definitely questions that will come up. I do have to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: say that I would be disappointed if they did edit
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the storyline to make Yarrett look more like a villain
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: or somebody we don't want to end up Becca to
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: end up with because of his favorite Instagram likes. You
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? I just think that would be sad, Like,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: don't ruin a storyline or like a love story because
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, she's been through enough right Yeah? Yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: what a way to start America's Sweetest and most loved
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Bachelor and turning this season. Um, just start out with
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the controverts like this. Hey, but that's part of being
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the bachelor bachelor, you know, we talked about all the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: time on this podcast. Now it's you know, the it's
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: how she reacts and in the judgment, and what makes
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a great bachelorette or bachelor is how do they react
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to really tough situations. And so it sounds like so
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: far Becca has reacted publicly very well. Um. And we'll
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: let the same kind of settle and see where it
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: plays out either on the show or post show, um,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: during the press. But we know this will be a storyline. Um.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: If anything, Jackie from the Hollywood Reporter is going to
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: be quizzing Garrett and Becca at some point in this
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: in the future and what exactly, uh he intended to
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: do by liking these things on social media? Jackie, thank
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: you for coming on the podcast. Yeah, I know you're welcome.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: And I did get a chance to speak to Becca actually,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: so have a little bit more from her on the situation.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: But Um, Garrett will definitely have to remain to be
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: seen as the season goes well. We'll look forward to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: hearing from him. Yeah, and thanks guys, Um Greace to
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: talk to you again. I brought your on the podcast
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: next time for something really great. But any more controversy
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: in this franchise and we might not have podcast. So
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: next time we talk, let's do something positive, okay, Gil,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: That sounds good to me. It sounds good, right. Um.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: You know when I was a kid, Ashley, when I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: would say something wrong or swear or do something inappropriate,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: my mouth would get washed out? Was so your head?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: That happened to you know? But I'm so interested to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: see how that was. How was that? It's uh, it's
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: not fun and it doesn't taste good and it really
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't clean out anything, but you know, it does clean
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: out your mouth, is it? Quip quip Definitely definitely cleans
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: out your mouth. It's not like soap. It's actually a
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: lot better. You can use toothpaste and it works just
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: as well. Let me tell you about quip. The truth
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: is most of us are brushing our teeth wrong, not
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: for long enough, and forget to change our brush heads
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: all the time. Jared is the worst at brushing his teeth.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: He's getting my new quip. That's disgusting. No, I mean
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: like he cleans thoroughly, but he's he's hurting his gums.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Oh that's even worse. That's that's a that's a traumatic
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: impact that could last a lifetime. That you get him
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: some quip. Actually, most brands are focused on selling flashy
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: gimmicks rather than actually better brushing techniques, but not Quip.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: So what makes quip so different? It sounds like Jared
• 21:17
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• 21:20
  Speaker 1: For starters, Quip as an electric toothbrush that's a fraction
• 21:23
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• 21:26
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• 21:29
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• 21:35
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• 21:50
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• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you take your teeth. How does actually where do you
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: keep your toothbrush when you're not using quip? Well, when
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not using quip, which has this nice little things
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: that covers my brush so that like, um, gross toilet
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: flushes don't get on my toothbrush, I would normally just
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: keep it out by the sink by the toilet, right,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: But QUIP is so much different because it has a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: protective covering. It's true. I had a roommate back in
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the day, and he used to keep his toothbrush on
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the ground in the shower that we shared. Gust again,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: he would brush his teeth when he got in absolutely disgusting.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I don't get some people, I just I don't get it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Why why would you brush your teeth with my foot fungus?
• 22:39
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• 22:57
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• 22:59
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• 23:04
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• 23:06
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• 23:30
  Speaker 1: teeth happily, cleanly and well, actually, we gotta go back
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: to this Garrett controversy. Yes, we have a couple of
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: reader emails, and of course we would expect those, uh,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and we're happy we have them. A lot of them
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: aren't very kind towards Garrett. This first one here I'm
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: not gonna read the whole thing, but the first one
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: here says I'm bummed Garrett is such a douchehert. What's
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a douche? Come on? You know? Oh yeah I thought that. Yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I thought I was thinking the product, not the name. Okay,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that's not a good thing, by the way, Okay, we
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: get it. This isn't good. This is not a good look.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing here actually, and if we
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: just get honest, because I think Garrett makes it really far.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I think so too. He's such a front runner. Yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: he's the first impression Rose guy. If he if he
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't he kind of be like the Lee thing where
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Lee made a huge splash with his comments on Twitter
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and and they were wrong and they were terrible, but
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: it faded and it didn't become a main storyline post
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: show because he was gone way before the show ended.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I think this will be a lingering Okay, in all truth,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I think this will be a storyline even if the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: show doesn't show it outside of the show or hanging
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: over the show for the rest of the season. I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: think so too. And Garrett is the kind of guy
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that if he doesn't end up with Becca in the end,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: he's definitely Bachelor in Paradise material, like, this is the
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: kind of guy that that would hang around the franchise
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: for a while. I agree, And so I don't know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in your opinion, if you were a publicist, how do
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you do damage control? Right now? I think of what
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you do is the apology that he already did, and
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: then you kind of hope it fades away. Well there's
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: anything else you can do. You know, there's there's a
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: couple of comments we have that we're sending also on
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: his apology. Jessica says, that's some decent accountability. Good on him.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Michelle says, well said he's definitely my favorite. So then
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: to change her opinion, Katie says, even though they're just likes,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I personally think that you like. Social media shows a
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: lot about you. This isn't even a political issue like
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: many are trying like many are trying to make it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I'm more liberal, my boyfriend is conservative. I totally get
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: in respect that people are to have different views. That's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about earlier. We don't all want to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: agree and believe on the same thing. That doesn't make
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: life fun. However, these memes took things to a totally
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: different level. I would agree with that. I think we
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: all agree agree with that they were hateful, disgusting, and cruel.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: No matter what we believe, we can still have respect
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: for others. I really appreciate that Geary apologize. I am
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: all four second chances, and I hope the situation will
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: educate him and help him become a more open minded person.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's perfect. I think what I think, what
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Katie said was everything that we think. I I completely agree.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I think there's there's a level here. Some of these
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: these things that he was he was liking, were like, Okay,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: those are just political opinions. There's other things that we
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: all have to agree with, right, But some of these
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: go away beyond that. They go they are dark, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: they're they're hurtful, and they target certain people in certain
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: groups of people. Those things should never be liked. And
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that's where I think his apologies coming from. That's why
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I want to hear him apologize for or just talk about.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to something I talked about a
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: lot in this podcast. The only thing about his apology
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that I don't like, and this is this is such
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a personal um pet peeve of mine. I was thinking
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: the other day, Actually, i've by one of my best friends,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: just took a couple of weeks off of work and
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and with that, I didn't talk to him for a
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: few weeks. I just want to give him in space.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm feeling little bit not friendless. I have a
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: lot of friends, but I'm missing my friend right now.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And so it's allowed me to do a lot of
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: self reflection on how do I treat my friends, how
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: do I treat people around me? And I notice at
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: times in my life, and we've talked about this, you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I do get irritable and I do get annoyed, not
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: because I don't like a person, just because my reaction
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: to things typically isn't good. One of the things that
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: annoys me to most about people, and I might need
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: to get over this, and I need you to tell
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: me if I do, is when they give themselves compliments
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I've talked about in this podcast. Yeah, and I've read
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Garrett's apology and it says things I'm not I don't
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: have it in front of me exactly, but I remember
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: saying things like I'm a happy person. I like to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: make light of the situation. I'm a good person. Those
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: things are all great, but I could go without hearing
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it because I don't want to hear you call yourself
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: a happy person. I don't want to hear yourself. I
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear you call yourself a person that
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: likes to make light a situation. I mean, what else
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: are you gonna do? You're gonna right in there. You know,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I'm a pretty dark person. I really like to make
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: other people feel terrible about themselves. I really like to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: make any fun situation as little amount of fun as possible.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: And you know what, everybody thinks they're a good person. Everybody,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you know people think they're good people for the craziest reason.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: So I think, if if this is a little bit
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: of a segment for me to express myself. I read
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: his apology and I think it's sincere, and I think
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: he did take accountability. Those are the two things that
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I was looking for. But I I gotta be honest.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I did get annoyed with the self commentary. I don't
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: like that. I think it's am I am I crazy
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: for this? No, I don't think so. I just um,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think you have to describe yourself in an apology.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't elaborate on it, but you're right.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, does it annoy anybody else out there? I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: want you if it does, please email us at Ben
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and Ashley at i heeart media dot com. I mean, honestly,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I need to hear from you because I either need
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to be um hold myself accountable and be convicted of
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: this and change and try to work through this, or
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I need somebody to tell me, Ben, you're not completely wrong,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: or maybe you're completely right. And when people self describe themselves,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: it's really really annoying, so interesting that this is such
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a pet peep of yours. It's just I haven't thought
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of it much, so I wish I had a better answer.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: But you're right. I don't go around saying like I'm
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: a good person. Yeah, I would never. I don't think
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I would say that. Yeah. You hear it all the time.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: You hear on the show a lot. You saw it
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: on this week's episode. This is where it kind of
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: comes from, too. I want to tie it into this
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: week's episode a little bit. You heard it a lot
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: where people self describe themselves. They sit down with Rebecca
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and they get five minutes and the very first thing
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: they say is, you know, I'm just a very I'm
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: just a very open person. Yeah, or hey, you know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm one of those people that really
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: like to to laugh. It's like, well, of course you
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: like to laugh, Like are you human? Oh my god,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: don't Now that's a pet peeve of mine When people
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: say I like to have a good time, I'm like,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: what do you who does not like to have a
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: good time? To me? When you say that, that means
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: like you like the party, that's like code for I
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: drink a bit, or like it just doesn't like I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: don't know, Ash, It's just I need to work through this.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I need to work through with you and our listeners.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I need to figure out how to either get over this,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: to let it stop bothering me so much, or to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: just continue to fight the good fight against people self
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: promoting and self describing themselves. I don't get it, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. Maybe make your actions speak
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: for your you know, speak before your words. Can you
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: see my face right now? No? I can't. Oh, It's
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: like I might have such a face of ponder right
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: now because it's something I never think about but when
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: you when you're saying this like I'm an open person,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I'm this, I'm not like that is pretty weird to
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: say about yourself, especially to someone that you're still meeting.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: If you're like talking to your friends, you're talking about
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: like your qualities your friends, I think it's a little
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: bit different. But if you're introducing yourself like that, it's weird.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: It's very odd. Um. Anyways, right, it's your opinions. Let's
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: talk about it next week. Let's break down some emails
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: on people self describing themselves in a positive and not
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: even a native light. Just don't let people form their
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: own opinions. You don't need to tell them that you
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: you're you're somebody really likes to have a good time. Hey,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: somebody really of the laft Like I'm a really yeah,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: really genuine person, Like you know, I just I don't
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: like controversy. I don't like drama. Come on, you like
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: drama a little bit. We all do. That's we have
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a podcast and you're listening to it right now. Hey, Ashley,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I speaking of drama. We we got a confront situation.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: They do. Last week, I got the opportunity to spend
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: um five days at the Indianapolis You were there for
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a long time. I was there for a long time.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I was there with andretti Otto, sports relay rewards and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Five itself. It's it's a huge event and
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into the details. Has a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: ton of tradition. It means a lot to me. My
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: grandfather was a big fan at the race, and so
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: obviously with him passing, this is a big deal for
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: us to go to at the race though. This is
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the thing that ties back here. I was able to
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: spend an evening in an afternoon with Ari and Lauren,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and I will tell you one thing. I really want
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: to see him make it really bad. I really do.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I I just here's the thing. I can tell that this,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: this whole thing is weighing on them, which obviously it
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: would there they I think, and they didn't say this.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I think they feel hated on and which which isn't
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: like oh crazy, like no, of course, And I know, yeah,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: they've taken some heat, and I think it's weighing on them.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: They seem really happy, they seem super supportive of each
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: other when they you know, when they looked at each other,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: they're looking at each other like you and Jared do.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: It's just that kind of like there's nobody else in
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the room and all I want to do is hear
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you talk, or hear your voice, or put my lips
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: around your lips. Um. But I can tell that this
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: whole thing made me. They brought them together, so let's
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: give the show that benefit. But I can tell that
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: this is weighing on them a little bit. And I
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: just want to say this now. They were nothing but
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: incredible to me. Um, we had a really good time. Um.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I got to talk to Lauren for a while. She
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: is a sweetheart, and um, just very engaged in conversation.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Was not too good to talk to me, you know,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: it was not kind of when I when I was
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: talking and when she was talking, she was completely engaged
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: in the conversation. And UM, I don't know. I'm just
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a big fan of them, and I think
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: they've been through enough now, So can we ask all
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: of our listeners, I mean, do you support this actually
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: just to now get in the R and Laurent train. Totally. Yes.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: It is sad to see how disinterested bat So Nation
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: is in them when I really do think that they're
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: going to be married forever. I do. I think that
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: they're meant to be. Yeah, And you know Ari's family
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: was there with them, and and so I got to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: see that dynamic and see that you know, this is
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a what people forget and what we forget sometimes is
• 33:30
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  Speaker 1: It's your typical week two episode. Drama starts classic love
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: starts to blossom. We start to see all of the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Bachelor and Bachelott's little um tendencies. Let's call him that
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: my tendency. I licked my lips a lot, and I
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I did, and I said, amazing, You're amazing. We're seeing
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Becca as little tendency. She says, I don't want to lie.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. But I like you.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. But this is fun. I'm not
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: gonna lie. But you need to go home. It's it's it,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy? Actually that when you put yourself on television,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: you do start to see the tendencies and your nervous ticks.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Mine was looking at my lips. I licked my lips
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: all the time. My thing I on the podcast is
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: saying the thing is what's mine mine? I'm gonna say, um,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: let's be honest. Yeah, you said, let's be honest. Let's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: be honest. Let's be honest. Here's here's the deal. I
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: like talking to Ash. So Becca's is I'm not gonna lie.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Watch for it. Maybe you know, have a drink or
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: do a push up every time. I'm not gonna lie,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: is said, all right. Moving into this week's episode, Uh,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: we're gonna grade Becca a to f on how she's doing.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: So as far as the Bachelor at Ashley, be critical,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: be tough. What would you give her? Um? I give
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: her a b because everything's just like I don't know,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: it's I think it's like sweet, but there's no spice.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some spice. N you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I would give her a beat as well. I would
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: disagree with you on the spice. You know why Why
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Because I saw her make out with Blake and it
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: was intense. I liked her. I liked her make out
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: with Was it Jean Blanc? That was a good kiss.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: When you just hear the name Jehan blonde, is just
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: sound like a guy or a girl or whatever a
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: name that you want to make out with Jean Blanc? Ye?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Just does you just want to wrap your lips all around?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: And he smells good to remember he's cologne man. Yeah,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: that's impressive. We didn't we didn't highlight that enough. I'm
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I'm in favor of somebody that takes pride in their sin.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Becca needs a man who smells good. That was such
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: an adit, Ashley. What's your what's your what's your scent?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: What is my scent? Yeah? What is my favorite just
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: on a normal day. Right, Okay, let's do two different things.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: We all have this, um and anybody listening out there
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: join this little game, right us, right now, UM, let's
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: go to if you're going on a date night with Jared,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: what do you wear? Um? I think it's I'll just
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: tell you what my favorite sone is because I don't
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: remember the actual I think it's called summer Night or sumhere.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called. But I love anything
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that's like summary or smells beachy. So one of my
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: favorites is Bobby Brown. I think it's called beach So
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: it smells like coconut, sundann lotion sand all. That is
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: what will make me feel all the fields Bobby Brown
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: is in like the singer No Bobby Brown, the makeup line,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: no clue. Okay, Actually, if you're coming into my Heart
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Studios to do the podcast, what do you smell like? Nothing? Nothing? No,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I don't put perfume on unless it's like a night out. Okay,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: what do you do? Uh? No, you know I've gotten
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: this thing. I wear secret deodorant. It's a big deal
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: for me, it's a big deal for you. Yeah, I
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: switched over back in the day when I was reading
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: all this stuff about how deodorans are bad for you
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and one of the only good ones is secret. So
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I just I prop a little secret on. Um. If
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I'm going out to eat, you know, going to a
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: fancy restaurants, a little bagaria. I think it's called it's
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: not spelled like that. I have no clue how you
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: spell it. The names all weird. Um, I get it
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: north some Rack, A big fan of the Rack. Um,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: so I go to Norther some Rack buy my cologne.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I like the smell good. Um. But of course a
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: guy with the name of Ron Blanc would smell good also. Um. Okay,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: So she has a steamy makeout session with Blake. It's intense.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we can all say that was
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that was something where it didn't a matter off cameras
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: around or not. They were going to go at it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, that was really hot when she was like, okay,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: before you leave, and then she got him against the wall. Yeah.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: So that brings up the question and some of our
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: our listeners have written and already about it. Is it
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: appropriate for the woman to make that move? How's yeah?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Well yes, I think so. Wow. That's steamy. That was hot. Yeah,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: it's so hot when the girl doesn't because it takes
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit more guts and courage for the girl
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: to do it, so that means she really wants it. Now.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit out of character, right Rebecca, do
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you think I would say so? Yeah, she's a little
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: more timid. Hm. But Blake do you think Blake should
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: have made that move or just was he was he
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: going to I mean they were walking out pretty confidently,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: looked like off in to the sunset. Was he going
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: to push her up against the wall? And probably not
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: against the wall, but he probably would have kissed her.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: They have been kissing all day long, you know that, right, Yeah,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they have. That was a special special moment
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: that was That was intense and she had the heart,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: she had she had the hand around the head, he
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: had their hand around the head. There was like this
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you know, what do you call It's like the worm
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: standing up. You know you're like kind of just like
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: both like groovy as you make out. You're right, that
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: was a spicy scene, spicy scene. So going off of
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: the makeout, I think Beck is doing great. She's fine.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I'm big back up. You know that. I know that,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I know that, But it seems like this episode and
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: no judgment good for her, But we have to point
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: out because we do it every season. Becca had her
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: way with a few. You know, she made up with
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of people this week she did there. Yeah, yeah,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I bet you. We didn't even see a lot of
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: the kisses. Yeah, you know, it's hard. I think as
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the bachelor, Bachelor, how do you turn that down? Because
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: you're not against it, you know, but it's weird to
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: be making out with people all night every night, like,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: person after person after person. It does It does wear
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: on you a bit. You know, which makeout scene I
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: did not expect to see? Um, I don't know what
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: you didn't expect to see, but I know which one
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: didn't look as great to me. Clay, Oh my god,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect that at all. I did. I did
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the hands over the face thing. Ash, How did they
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: even evolved to being able to kiss each other? Like?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: They didn't seem to have anything romantic. It was such
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: an awkward scene where he like did this little dance
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and then they it was just too much and I
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: did that. You know, we've talked about it, like where
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I have to turn my head and cover my eyes
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: because it just makes me feel all sorts of weird.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: That one was very awkward, but she seemed to be
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: totally expecting it, like she didn't think it was weird,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: but just the audience did. Yeah, maybe if you watch
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: everything anytime you, you know, watch something from a distance,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: it's weird. Who who did you not expect? I didn't.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: I expected her to kiss Lincoln, but I thought it
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: would be a better kiss. How was it bad? It
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: was just it seemed just like a very piece, if
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. It wasn't like a fluid motion. Yeah,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: you know. Okay, so this this is a good segue
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: for us. We're gonna have Sarah Heron on here in
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit and we're gonna talk. We're gonna dig
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: into a couple of these Bachelor topics from this week's episode,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: but one that we can't skip over is the Lincoln
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: verse Connor uh controversy or fight? Is it? Is it
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: wrong of me actually to feel like Connor was definitely
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: too aggressive, but I was, I was feeling him. I
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: was annoyed. I can't figure out Lincoln yet, so I
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: almost don't even want to talk about him. Yet my
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: opinions on Lincoln like is he a good guy or
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: a bad guy? It is yet to be determined. It
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: could really swing either way. But Connor, I know it's ridiculous.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Come on. The way he reacted was as if he
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: were a bully on the playground. I get it, but
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: but I was annoyed also, So maybe that's where I
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: was like, I get it, Connor, but odd for you
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: to throw it out, and just odd for for you
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to let it bother you so much. You he got
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Lincoln got under his skin. He was so aggressive about it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what kind of anger do you have in
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: your soul from me to react about this man who
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: is being foolish in the first place. The dude is
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: kissing and talking to a picture, so you should probably
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: be making fun of him and not be so angry
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: so weird. I hope people would make fun of me
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: if I was talking to a picture, because I hope
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: everybody behind my back would be like that Ben dude
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: is odd, Like he is a weird, a weird cat. Okay,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: So if we break this down, are you team Lincoln
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: or tin Connor? Well, I would like to say that
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not either. I'm not really a fan of either. Okay, fine,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: in this battle, I would pick Lincoln, you pick Connor. Wow.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I know maybe it said something about me and my character.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I told you I react terribly the situation sometimes. But
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. I thought Lincoln overreacted. Do you agree
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: with that? I mean, he was crying. It was weird.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: It was weird, right, I mean, I don't know his backstory,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and I know that he really was excited about showing
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: his mom this picture. You could trust me. I'm close
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: with my mom. Thinks she's a great lady. Loved to
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: show off cool things to her, love to show off
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: pictures of me, paintings I've done. You know, it's ever
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: since elementary school. I've always been a big fan of
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: showing my mom arts and crafts that i've that I've accomplished.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit odd to me that he was
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: so emotional. Maybe he's a really emotional guy, but it
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: was weird. And I when he did say we want
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: to show my mom, that was the only line that
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: made me go, oh, that's sad. No, it did that
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: made me go, oh, okay, maybe I get it now.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: So here, this digs in a little bit and you're
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the expert, you know, because you're in a relationship and
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: all in love and stuff. Now, is it attractive cry? No? No,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: not when a man cries, because there's a thousand reasons
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: why man cry cry. I like cris I like crying. Okay,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: So when Lincoln goes, I want to show my mom. Yeah,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: in whatever context he was, he was crying and he
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: said it, and you go home. That's sweet. Is that
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: an attractive sweet? Or is it? Is it a turn off?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: And I and more like, oh, that's just sweet? Like good,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: that's that's tough. I want to console him because he's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: hurt seeing it on TV, I go off. But if
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Jerry were to do that, like if he cried over
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: a destroyed picture of us because he wanted to show
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: his mom, I'd be like Jared Kono, Yeah, like you
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: would give him some tough love and be like, Dared,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: come on your I know this is an ideal. We'll
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: put the picture again, Yeah we can. Well, hey, let's
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: remake this picture. It's out there in the stratosphere. Well
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: we'll redo this, right, like tough love because about him?
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: You love him? Yeah, yeah, I think that too. It
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: just it seems like Lincoln did a little tough love there.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling I'd have no clue if I'm
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: right or wrong, that this isn't the last controversy Lincoln's
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: involved in. I agree. I think it's going to be
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: maybe something each week that it gets overly sensitive about. Yeah,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: you know, we all have to work on it. I'm
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: a sensitive guy. I get I get hurt. Yeah, obviously
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I can't speak either, but but I would say this
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: one was weird. It was a little odd to me,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a little much um and I'll leave it that, okay.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Moving on, breaking down the Dodgeball date Astley, I would
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: say this, maybe I'm crazy here. This was one of
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: the best dates ever done by the Bachelor. Wait, that
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: is so funny because I thought it was a snooze fast.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I was on my phone the entire time. No way, Yeah,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like so good. Yeah, I don't
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: need to see you guys competing in sport doesn't say
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: anything to me. I don't learn anything, except for I
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: did learn that Leo is like kind of self aware
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and he was playing along and it was funny. Yeah,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: that was funny. He was good. He's an athlete too.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: He played for US Baseball. Hurt Oh, okay, well that
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: makes sense. But you know, I was totally bored during
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: this part of the day. I don't know. It's just
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: something that, like I think would be so much fun
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: if you were there and playing, but not super visually
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: compelling for the audience. Weird. I thought it was one
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: of the best dates. I thought this episode was incredible.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I thought the date just crushing things, even if it wasn't,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you know ri or not, I thought that was amazing.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: The slow Moe video of it was just really well done.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: In the Dodgeball day, having Chris Harrison up there commentating
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: it was just threw me back from my favorite movies
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: of all time, obviously Dodgeball. Um. It should be mentioned
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: that I was at that date, at the demolition date
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: where they crushed all of ori stuff, and it was
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: cool because I got to interview Little John for a
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: couple of minutes and The Bachelor has apparently been trying
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: to get him on the show for years and they
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: could never come up with the right timing or creative
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: and then fine, only they worked this out and Little
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: John was like, yeah, yeah, that's amazing. No, I thought
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: that was. It really was such a fun day. And
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I'm always impressed year, every year, every year, And we
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: have to give the show credit for this, that this
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: date team continues to come up with new and interesting,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: engaging concepts. And I know for them repeating dates, we
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: don't need new fresh dates every season every year. I
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: don't mind them pulling back old dates in the past.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I think that's a fine thing, but it is impressive
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: that they continue to come up with new ideas. These
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: people almost married their great daters. Um, all right, we're
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: gonna dig in now, right before we bring Sarah on
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: to the biggest controversy within this podcast or within this episode,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: one that we have a lot to talk about, one
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: that's not going to be leaving anytime soon, I don't think,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: because we see it in the previews from the season.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Colton drops a bomb on bastelor Nation. He drops a
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: bomb on Becca by saying that he dated per weekend
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Tia a weekend for a weekend. He said it, we
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: had a weekend together. Oh I missed that line. Yeah,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: he had. They had a weekend together. So they're obviously talking.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I think the back stort of this is they were
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: talking they're chatting their messaging, which happens all the time
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation, especially amongst contestants. And then at some
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: point they met up. They met up in person four
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: a weekend together and it didn't go well and he
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: decided to still go on the show to pursue Becca
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: because his relationship with Tia was not bostooning. To start
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: this out, Ashley, is this weird for you? Do you
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: have a problem with it? If you put yourself in
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the situation in Becca's shoes, how do you respond? There's
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: so many questions to be asked here. Um, Why did
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: he reach out to Tea in the first one? Did
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: he reach out to Tia? What was the extent of
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: their relationship? How long did they talk for? Um? How long? Um?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Did he reach out to Tia because she thought he
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: thought that she would be the bachelorette? And why did
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: things not work out with Tia? Is it because he
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: got the far an a call to be on the show,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: or is it and he wanted to go on the
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: show or did he really just not feel her? And
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: it will be so so interesting if Colton isn't the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: final standing guy and he's on Paradise and I think
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: we can basically say we can confirm that I think
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Tia is on paradise. Yeah, I mean that would be insane,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: you can. You mean, what better storyline to follow into
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: paradise is will Tia and Colton revive the romance that
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: once was? But there's so many unanswered questions here. I
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: like Colton a lot um, but in the way that
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I am maybe disillusioned by his appearance and charm. And
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like if this were a random guy, if
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: this were a guy named Jason or Ryan, who you
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: guys probably don't even know who they are right now,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: would she say she would probably be like, oh, you
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: did my friend and then you came on the show
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: to date me goodbye. But Colton, he gets the past
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: because of his looks and charms. Just my opinion, he's
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: that good looking. I don't know, I don't know. Don't
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: you think that he's like the best looking guy there? Yeah,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's the bachelors, so they're they're all
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: really good looking. Yeah. I think he stands out right,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: He's he's tall, presence, he's a presence. I definitely think
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Colton stands out amongst the crowd when it comes to
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: just his overall presence and his aura, which begs the question.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think if on the first night, if
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: we would have watched this, just like anybody, we would
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: assume Colton's gonna be around a while, and if he wasn't, um,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: we'd be confused, kind of like we were confused honestly
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: with the with the grocery guy from Chicago. We thought
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that guy is a presence, super good looking, gonna be
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: around a while, but then he went home. So I actually,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: at this point I have no idea what beck is
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: gonna do with Colton, but I would say that this
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: would feel weird to me. It's it's definitely. I can't
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: say that I wouldn't react the way she did. She
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: she and are totally responded, would respond the exact same
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: way she her face went dark, if lost her smile
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: in her lighte for like the first time in the episode,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: and because you could tell how interested she was in Colton.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: And this is a blow too, like their potential relationship.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: So so Ashley, let's dig in deep little, let's go
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I wish we had a theme music
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: for when we want to go behind the scenes. If
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: we laid down the timeline. Do we really think that
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Beckett didn't know that Colton and Tia had a thing?
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: She was announcing the bachelorret she was still in the
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: public eye, she was able to communicate with her friends
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: for a while. Colton probably was, you know, aware that
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: he was going to be on the show, do you
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know this, but do you really
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: think that she didn't know that Tia and this guy
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: had a thing when she went on to be the bachelorette? Yeah,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think she knew. Wow, I think that he
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: must not have told Tia that he got the final call.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Maybe I don't know. I just I
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: was thinking, like, hey, I know how this plays out.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Your closest friends probably know you're on the show. Maybe not.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't tell anybody. I'm interested to see how
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: this plays out. Here's one thing I think should happen,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: because we haven't seen any other episodes. I hope Tia
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: handles this responsibly, Like I hope she doesn't make this
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: a thing, because it doesn't sound like it needs to
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: be a thing with Tea anymore. It sounds like it
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: needs to be a thing with Becca and Colton. Yeah,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: totally so. So it's interesting with Tia being so close
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: to back up Um being associated in the show. I'm
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: assuming Um, in Paradise or something, you know, Colton and
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Tea will have a conversation. It just sounds like a
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: breakup between Colton and Tia, and now it's between Colton
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: and Becca. To see where it plays out. I just
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: hope Tia doesn't make this anything more than it. I
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: don't think she will. I don't think she will, but
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I if they're Paradise together, I can see her accusing
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Coulton of leaving her and stopping that relationship in order
• 54:51
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  Speaker 1: I'm here? Thank you, Sarah, Oh my goes Hi. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: how are you great? How are you? I mean you
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  Speaker 1: guys are better than great? Actuley, You're definitely better than
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: great right now? Thank you? That is true. My life
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  Speaker 1: is hit a pinnacle and I keep I keep being
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: worried because could it would be better? Probably not. It's
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: downhill from here, no girl, I mean, this is what
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  Speaker 1: everyone's been waiting for and so happy to see happened
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: for you finally, so long she just wait waited and
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: waited and waited and made us. Is it ever going
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: to happen? Ever? Gonna find love? Is actually gonna marry
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: somebody else? You know? Alone forever? Just absolutely selfish hump
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  Speaker 1: with their parts um Sarah, thanks for coming on the podcast.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: We have a lot to talk to you about today.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: One thing I want to start out with saying is
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: we want to break down um this week's episode and
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: kind of Becca as a Bachelor at before we do,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I got a great email I actually just text you
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: this morning, UM, from somebody who was a friend of mine,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: A great person, awesome person. She is writing an article.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: She is a writer for a couple of magazines on
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: a few people. So I guess she's trying to find
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the only people that have participated in Bachelor Nation who
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: have then gone on to start their own nonprofits. And
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: you're one of those people. And so let's start this
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: podcast out in your segment by talking a little bit
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: more about what you're doing with the Shelift program. Yeah, UM,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, thank you for thinking of me for that, UM.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: She list has definitely been a labor of love. UM.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: For the past two years, I decided to start an
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: organization that helps girls with physical differences discover confidence and
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: self esteem throughoutdoor recreation because ever since I appeared on
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor, UM, I just I felt compelled to help
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: girls that were in similar situations to me, as me
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: that we're struggling with self esteem and and that can
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: range from everything from like physical activities to dating and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: just body image issues. And I really wanted to find
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: a way to connect girls who are going through the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: same struggles with one another and to build that community.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: So it's been two years and it's been totally rewarding
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: but so so hard and challenging. But it's like it's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: my life work and I'm obsessed with it. Now. Is
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: this your full time job? It is my full time job,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: but I mean, um, doing nonprofits, there's obviously you know,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: it's it's tosten. We don't make a lot of money,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: and so it's like definitely my focus. But you know,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: I am a graphic designer and I'm a freelance art
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: director first and foremost. That was my job like way
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: before I ever went on The Bachelor. So um, yeah,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like a content maker and creator
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: as far as my income goes. I guess you could say,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: but she Lift is my my side project, my passion project,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: and we got you go at us and you just
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: started a podcast. I did, so I started to Steal
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Lift podcast, which is an extension of the organization um,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: but it's a little bit broader. So every week we're
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: interviewing women who are using their platforms and projects or
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: even just talent to inspire good and change in the world.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: So UM, I have guests lined up, you know, who
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: might have a celebrity following or in a huge UM
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: impact all the way to just your everyday woman who's
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: trying to do something to make an impact and a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: change for society. So we're talking about a lot of
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: creative projects, a lot of um just social impact projects
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: and campaigns. And I'm obsessed with podcasting. I'm having so
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: much fun. It's been a trip that's awesome. Do you
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: ever talk about The Bachelor? Because we're gonna make you yeah,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, of course, like like I'm not one of
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: those people who went on The Bachelor and then stopped
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: watching it, Like I still love the frand size, and
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I love of talking about it. So you know, it's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: it's definitely sprinkled in there. Did you watch the Sueks episode?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Of course? Of course, And I will remember, I will
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: have you know. I'm camping right now. I'm in the
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Grand Canyon, and I still was like, we have to
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: stop in this town where I can have WiFi to
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: watch this right now, so I make it work wherever
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I am. That's amazing. You are always on an adventure
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: and you're always with your new love, but it's not
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: new love anymore. It's a year long love. And I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: think I think you're soul mate in your forever person. Huh. Yeah.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: We definitely lead a really crazy lifestyle, and I mean
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: it's exhausting, um traveling. I'm not going to complain about it.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I love it, but it's um. I mean, I'm sitting
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: in this web blocks right now of like a hundred
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: and four degrees in the middle of Arizona. It's insane. UM.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm so in love and happy to be
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing and I couldn't ask for anything better.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: If you were back up and your boyfriend wasn't in
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: the picture, which of these guys would have made you
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: would have given you would have given your first impression
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: roads to? Oh gosh, Okay, honestly, I think I also
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: would have chose Garrett because I'm always gone to the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: funny guys. Um, somebody that you know a little bit
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: quirky and um can make me laugh or just catch
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: me off. Stard a little unexpected. So I'm like, so
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: far right in line with Becca. Who would you if
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: you were obsessist? Garret? And then good question, the question
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: applies to you. I'm pretty I'm pretty much up there
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: with Becca too. I think like the three guys that
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I would be most attention to would be Garrett, Blake
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: and Colton. Yeah. I know well Colson, So he's a
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: he's a Denver guy. Do you know him? Then? I do? Yeah, Yeah,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I do know him. Um, not super well. Um, I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: know him enough. And he's great. I mean he's good.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: We went to a wedding together. He runs a great foundation.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: He's one of the four people that have started on
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: profit that have participated in the franchise. Yeah, he's good looking,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: like ash and I were just talking about. I mean,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I think he's up there obviously we're you know, he's
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: he is a front runner on this season. I'm a
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: big fan of the grocer. I liked it. Yeah. Last
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: year when Ari was the Bachelor, I wrote down my
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: top five women and he what was Ashley like? He
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: let three of the five go on the first night.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: That seems to be your tendency. Yeah, I'm a big
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I'm a Big Night One, go Homer. Wait, you know
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: who Colton reminds me of? Like every time I look
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: at him, he I think they're striking resemblance to Ben Scott.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Do you remember Ben from des Ray season Chris Pratt. Oh,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: that's nice, it's Chris. Okay, here, okay, let's let's go
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: off on a little side tangent. Let's not take too
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: long here. The Chris Pratt obsession is he that could look? No,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's like changed. I think yes, he's I
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: think he's very attractive. I think he's a little overdone.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: But I do think he's sexy because he's funny, and
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: you like the guy who's funny and you can hang
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: out with that. Overcame his like chubb face because he
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: is pretty striking in Jurassic Park and when he's all
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: tan and steady, I thought it was great. But I
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: like him because he's like kind of he's like everyday
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: guy kind of look you know what I mean? In
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Avengers when he's next to Um Hemsworth, Hemsworth, Chris Hemsworth,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: You're like, wow, poor Chris Pratt. But any other time,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: but feel like if it were real life, Like there's
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: no way I would ever have. I just wouldn't even
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: feel like I could strike up a conversation with hemns Worth,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: but I could feel like I could hold my own
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: with Chris Pratt. I was. I met Chris Simsworth last week,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: and I got nervous, like it got weird. Guy's just
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: the guy's beautiful. He shines like light reflects off of
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: him because he's looking. Um, Sarah, what is one storyline
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: right now during the Bachelor at season that you're most
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: intrigued to follow? Um, that's a really good question. I'm
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: always really intrigued just to follow the Colorado people. So
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I think we have a lot of yeah, especially because
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Um Blake is from Bailey, Colorado, which is the town
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: next to the town I grew up in, which is Evergreen, Colorado. Um,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like naturally interested to see where that goes.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: But as far as people, there's something about um, gosh,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think, Um, Jordan's is going to
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: be an entertaining one, but I'm already he's driving me
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: crazy already, um, and I only not in a bad way.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if anyone totally hooked me yet.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Do you guys have someone I mean, I think there's
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: a couple of storylines the Colton situation right now with
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: dating team super excited, very intrigued by that. Um you
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: know this this whole Lincoln thing. I don't get the guy.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, don't get it. But here's one thing I'm
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: confused about. I have watched this show now for a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: long time, but a part of it for a long time.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: There has never been anybody I've watched the show and
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: felt like they're more of a character. Je He just
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: seems he seems to be so much of a character,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Like he doesn't seem to be real. And we've watched
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: the show many times and been like, oh, there's the villain.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Oh there's the person that says wild things. So that
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: this person that's annoying. Do you both feel like George's
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: just a character? He feels like Karen to me, Yeah,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: And I am curious if it's like, is he aware
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: or is it intentional? You know what I mean? Is
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: he playing up because you know he's going to get
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: that edit if you will, or just that feedback, or
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: is he like completely not self aware of I think
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: he's totally self aware. You think so? Lincoln is another
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: good one to talk about though, because when I watched
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: his hometown package, he was a stand out to me,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Like I was like, Oh, I'm super intrigued by this guy.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: And then this week I just felt like, Yeah, this
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: is not going well, Like there's something a little Stevie
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: cheaty going on about like his intentions or I'm not
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: really sure, but that storyline I think is going to
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: get weird. Sarah. That happened to me too, because I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: saw him on after the Final Rose and I was like, oh, wow,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: that's a front runner. And then I met him in
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: real life and I was like, I don't think so anymore. Really, Yeah,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I mean his hometown package is like such a seller,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: So that's too bad. But I mean I'm still excited
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: to see where it goes. Obviously, the drama is crazy.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I did think it was funny when the guys won
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the dodge ball game and then they brought the trophy
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: back to the group date and they're like, is it
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: okay we leave the trophy sitting here on the table.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Is that gonna offend you guys? I thought that's funny.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Whoever said that? So good this season? Um, okay, last
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: year at this time We're two episodes in. Are was
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor? We're sitting here on this podcast, We're saying, Okay,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: we don't get it, We're not into it. We don't
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: know where this is going. Do you all what do
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: you think? I mean outside of this being the Bachelor
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: app and I mean, is this a good season so far? Like?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Are we engaged? Are we into it already? After week two? Uh?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Do you want me to answer first? Or do you
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: on it? I think you should? Okay, I think I
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: think it always is a little bit of a slow
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: roll every season. Um, and so I think it's just
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: it's early. It's everyone is still super amped up on
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: the new season of the Bachelorette, and so it's like
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: we're tuning in. But I don't think there has been
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: any like major hook yet, but I think it will come.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: It's it's just always hard with the first few episodes.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: So no, I don't think there's been anything crazy to
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: like reel it in yet. But um, maybe that's just
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: because Beck is not like crazy. I mean, you guys
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: just matter. You know. She seems like a pretty down
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: to earth, well rounded, awesome chick that isn't just going
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: to have like a group of like, you know, crazy dudes.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Ashley, what do you think? I kind
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: of agree with her, like she's gonna be so even keeled.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: We definitely need the guys to bring the drama. So
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: we'll see which guy comes out of the woodwork to
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: be the drama queen, because Jordan's just gonna be so
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: silly and um, he's just playing the role. And I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: think she knows he's playing the role. And then we
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: just need like our villain to emerge. Who do you
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: think it is? I think it might be Lincoln or
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Lincoln and Connor drama the entire time. Is there anyone
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: we can picture being in Paradise already? Like no spoilers,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's like I feel like Lincoln
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: will for sure be in Paradise. We can't get to
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: the end. Oh yeah, and Connor, Mconnor Connor actually yes,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: And then definitely Colton since he has some drama with
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Dia if he doesn't make it all the way. Oh
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: my gosh, I just I look at I look at
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: these guys. Here's the thing, this is why I don't
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: go on Paradise. I look at all these guys right now,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: there episode where all they're all shirtless. I don't know
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: how people get so many things to pop out of
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: so many places on a human body. There's so many
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: abs and they all should go on Paradise. I mean,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: just to inspire me, I need to sit on my
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: couch with my halotop ice cream founding it and just go, Yeah,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be me one day. I might be nine,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: but one day you'll see me in Paradise straight Perlexi
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: on these dudes. Hey, Sarah, thank you so much for
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. We all ways appreciate you. Before
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: you go, you're starting the she Lift podcast or you've
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: already started. It's in It's it's in the running. Where
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: can people find it? Yeah, you can find it on
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: iTunes and Google Play soon to be Spotify, I promised. Um,
• 1:12:14
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• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: sure to subscribe and rate and review it. And Athlete,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: you're gonna come on my show right? Yes? Okay, yeah,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I have to have you on, and then I would
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: love to like I mean, we have Leslie Murphy on,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: who actually gave Generous Coffee a great shout out and
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: all the work that she had been doing with you guys,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: down and hunders with hope for humanity. So lots of
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: goodness going on and um yeah, thank you guys so much.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: So She Lift Podcast awesome. Well, hey, make sure you
• 1:12:48
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• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Support the organization, support what she's doing. She's awesome, She's incredible.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: She is a world changer, a life changer, a game changer.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Everybody round of a laws coming on the podcast, Ashley.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: Our favorite favorite time of year when we get to
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: read reader emails, and that's what we're gonna do right now.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think we missed anything about the episode. If
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: we did, please write, as in at been and Ashley
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: her meat dot com, you guys never lacked to get
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: us really great criticism, really great love and feedback. So
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: if we've missed anything this episode, please let us know.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: We want to hear your opinions, your thoughts, UM, your reviews. UM.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know, just tell ashually you're happy for everybody
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: else's um and I'm so hey, ash I know, we
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: got a couple of emails that we really want to
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: touch on before we go. Um, I gotta read one
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: for you, Okay, it's called three Questions about josh Lee. Joshley.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Is that you Jared Nash That's what we're calling you, Joshley.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: That's so sweet, god a little bitter. You know, I'm
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: better because you made me wait for so long for this.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Just sitting here, I'm like, man, of the last two
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: years of my life could have been so much less stressful.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: If you and jaredy just would have got together. Then wait,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: well yeah, imagine my life. I'm gold. But then we
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: never would have been able to do a show together.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: And I'm glad we got that. That was nice. I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: enjoyed that a couple of weeks with you. So anyways, okay,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: says from Diana. I listened to this week's podcast, and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy for Ashley and Jared. It Surprise, Surprise,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: honestly is the closest thing to a chick flick come
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: to life. And I would definitely watch a movie based
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: on your story if it was made. I guess my
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: question was sort of alluded to in the story of Us,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: but not really answered. Since you guys have been dating
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: for a couple of months now, it's basically coincides pretty
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: well with Ashley and Kevin's relationship ending. So my question is,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: if Jared hadn't come around and told Ashley his feelings,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: would Kevin and Ashley have kept dating? Essentially that Ashley
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: and Kevin break up because of Jared. Such a good question,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: actually one I think we all, you know, would love
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: an answer to um and then and then it goes
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: on to say this also, if Ashley hadn't gone on
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: win our games? Oh, this is such a good question,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: would it have taken even longer for Jared to realize
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: his feelings? And last, but not least, Ashley, there was
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: was there ever a time you had completely gotten over Jared,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: like accepted that you guys will be best friends? But
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: that's it. This is definitely one of the best real
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: life love stories I've ever heard from Diana. Actually, let
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: me close this by saying, I love this email. I
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: think it asked a lot of questions that people have
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: asked me. And you know, I think you have great
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: answers to him and and and they're all truthful, honest.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: But I do want to say that when she talks
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: about your love story and a chick flick movie, I
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: wonder if there's ever like a subconscious thing that you've
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: helped create this, you know, because you've always dreamed of
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: this chick flick storytelling or this this love story that
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: you know you really could be a movie, and you've
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: gotten it. How special are you? Like? Self manifested it?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: It's so bizarre, it's kind of weird. I just wonder
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: that we can diagnose that a later podcast. Anyways, you've
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: got some questions answer? Okay, So Diana, UM, it's you've
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: you've seen the story of us, which Jared and I did,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: because our story has so many details and nuances that
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: I'll a lot of which Bachelor Nation never saw. So
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: we wanted to kind of put it together so that
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: people wouldn't have to necessarily ask these questions. But you
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: seem to have watched it, and if it wasn't clear enough,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: then I will answer these are right here right now. Essentially,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: did actually break up with Kevin because of Jared? Absolutely not. Um.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: I think my relationship with Kevin. Um, it was wonderful
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: in the Bachelor bubble, and then the more we hung
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: out in real life, the more I realized that our
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: interests were totally different. Um, we didn't have the type
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: of mental connection that I feel like I needed, and
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I honestly I would have broken up, but I would
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: have had to break up with him to be fair
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: to him and his feelings in March anyway. Um, would
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: it have taken longer for Jared to realize his feelings.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Jared didn't realize his feelings until Winter Games.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: I think that Winter Games and me coming out of
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: it with a relationship was the way was what forced
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: him to come out about his feelings. It was kind
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: of the push that he needed in order to express them.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that they weren't harboring inside him. And then, um,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: did you ever get over? I deservever time where you
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: completely got over Jared? And yeah, I talked about this
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: in UM The Story of Us. I did definitely over
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: the past. Like nine months before he came out about
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: his feelings, I thought, I don't think this is ever
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: going to happen, because this is not even the guy
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: that I fell in love with in the first place,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: because he had gotten into such a dark hole. It
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: was weird. He Yeah, he wasn't the same anymore. So
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: then I was. I was kind of over him as
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: anything more than just a friend. Um. Yeah, but like,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: I guess in the back of my mind, I was
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: always like, hey, if I'm not married at thirty five
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: and he's not, then we got that marriage packed and
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: then we can start having kids. At least we'll have
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: a family together and we'll enjoy each other's company. Maybe
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: it won't be the most romantic of scenarios, but yeah,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: but now, who would have thought Jared had so much
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: romance busting inside of him? When did you? Like? I mean,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: I've wondered this. When did it? Kind of because I
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: know that you had moved on you kind of like
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: I guess recited the fact that this wasn't gonna be
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: a thing that you're going to be good friends for
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: a long time, and you guys were friends, you would
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: hang out and you wouldn't kiss, you wouldn't hug, you
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: want to do anything. You just hang out, which is
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: always weird to me. There had to be more. But um,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: when did it finally said into you actually like, I
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: really like this guy, like I love this guy? Like?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: When did that? How did that process work? Was it
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: just an overwhelming feeling once he told you? Or I mean,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know. How does that love thing work? Well?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: I always say that I was loved at first sight,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: and like it was an intense feeling that I had
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: for like a year and a half where even after
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Paradise three, I knew that I had to stop feeling that,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: like I needed to stop expressing things to him because
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: he was very clear with it, it's never going to happen,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: So then I wouldn't. I would stop trying to like
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: quote pursue it, and I just like kind of internalize
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: it and talked to my friends about it, but I
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: never talked to him about my feelings. And then then
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: like March of two, that was in seventeen is when
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like I lost feelings a bit. And then
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: when he came out to me about his feelings in January,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't know I was going to react the way
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: that I did, which was very positively, because people would
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: be like, what if Jared came out about his feelings
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: now now that you're with somebody else. I was like,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, sorry, Susie, lose. But then when he
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: told me, I thought, l you are something to me. Yeah.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what that like giggle was. I didn't
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: know if it was like an evil giggle like like
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: it was like, Hey, Jared, I love you man, You're
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: You're my dude. Okay, we're gonna we want to take
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: a second here while we read listener emails and and
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: just uh say thank you to our good friend, our
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: dear friends, Susie, who is a consistent listener to the
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast. She's also the chairman of the Almost
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Famous Podcast Facebook group. We we appreciate Susie and she's
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: going through a rough time right now. We understand that,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: and we just want to reach out to Susie and
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: say thank you for everything you've done for us and
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: supporting us as people, as as a podcast, which means
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: a lot to Ashna individually, UM, but also just thanks
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: for the impact you're making by building a community of people.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: You've done it for for a lot, uh a large
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: group at this point, and we know that you're struggling.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: We know that this is a tough season of life. UM,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: you've recently lost somebody very close to you, and we
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: just want to reach out and say we're thinking of
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: you're praying for you, we love you, we appreciate you.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: You always have a community with us, UM, and just
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: know that you're on our thoughts and our mind. You're
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: a huge part of this podcast, so this podcast. Let's
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: dedicate this podcast, this one to Susie. We love you. Susie.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: You bring so much light into these um podcast groups.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Um you're always just smiling. I feel like everything you
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: say it's with a smile, So we love you. Actually,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: any any emails that really stand out to you? Here?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: There's one more I would like to go through. All right,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: it says what about Rachel? It's from Tammy. Hello, Ben
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: and Ashley Avid listener here. I loved hearing Ashley's top
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: five bachelorette picks from last week. However, I'm curious as
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: to why Rachel Lizzie Lindsay wasn't on the list. What
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: were some things that you didn't like about her season?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: She's beautiful, well spoken, funny and a boss. What do
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: you think it should have been done differently? Do you
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: think that guys in her season were just super lame?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to write my brain about how the queen
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: didn't make the cut. Ps. Ben didn't give his top
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: five favorite picks, which is okay, but can he at
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: least share who his favorite bachelorette? Who his favorite Bachelorette
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: of all time is keep killing the podcast game, guys,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: um Ben is your favorite Bachelor atte ever? Caitlin, I
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: would have to say so or or what if we
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: didn't add Rachel Lindsay to the list because we were
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  Speaker 1: saving it for this podcast in this episode, because my
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  Speaker 1: favorite bachelor at of all time is Rachel Lindsay, the Queen. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's kids. She's great, cal Caitlin a bachelor. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like we've talked about though, you know, you have Jojo,
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  Speaker 1: who I think is awesome. You know, I have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of respect for Jojo. You have Caitlin, who is
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  Speaker 1: obviously incredible, Rachel, who is the queen, who is incredible
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  Speaker 1: and held her ground and did a great job on
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  Speaker 1: a season that was tough, it was really hard. You
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  Speaker 1: have Becca right now, who's I think going to crush
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  Speaker 1: the game. Then you go back even years too. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you just have bachelor after bachelor after bachelor that are great.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to pick just five. They they've all been
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  Speaker 1: really good. I don't think we have one that's bad
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  Speaker 1: right right As a bachelor at herself, I think Rachel
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  Speaker 1: really is a boss. I think she has everything going on.
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  Speaker 1: I think we didn't put him or her in the
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  Speaker 1: top five because her secure guys were so lame, like
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  Speaker 1: so lame that we couldn't even get a Bachelor out
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  Speaker 1: of them, so lamb that I can only think about
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  Speaker 1: three guys from her season off the top of my
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  Speaker 1: head right now. Yeah, and I mean, no, okay, never mind,
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  Speaker 1: of course. Now I'm thinking about the different guys, and
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  Speaker 1: I think about Raven and Adam being like Raven Adam,
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  Speaker 1: they're not engaged. But you know, it's just it's tough.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a great season, not because of Rachel, but
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  Speaker 1: because mostly the guys in our season were great. We
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  Speaker 1: had a couple of really solid ones, but outside of that,
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  Speaker 1: it just was kind of one of those. It was okay,
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  Speaker 1: it was, But she is bomb dot com, bomb dot com.
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  Speaker 1: You're wondering, Um, Actually, we're happy with your love story.
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