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SPEAKER_03: Disclaimer, the views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they represent.
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SPEAKER_03: Today's guests are a band that have been turning heads to taking up the modern rock scenes with their lot of policy dexterity and explosive sounds.
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SPEAKER_03: Do these school dropouts?
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SPEAKER_03: First off of the release of their state new album, Where Did All the Butterflies Go, produced by Neil Avron.
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SPEAKER_03: They're farming out their own lanes with a fearless blend of rebellion, individuality, and raw emotion.
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SPEAKER_03: They've already hit major milestones touring with 2.182 and Alkaline Trio, playing standout steps at festivals like Gualapalooza and Download and racking up millions of streams across the globe.
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SPEAKER_03: Today we're diving into the music, the journey, and the passion that you are one of the most exciting bands in rock music right now.
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SPEAKER_03: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Caught on the Mic.
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SPEAKER_03: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Caught on the Mic.
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SPEAKER_03: My next guests are rewriting the rule book of what rock and roll is all about.
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SPEAKER_03: They are about to embark on a tour with Blink 182 in just two days, and their debut album, Where Did All the Butterflies Go, drops on September 5th.
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SPEAKER_03: Welcoming to the show, Beauty School Dropout.
1:41
SPEAKER_00: How the heck are you guys?
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SPEAKER_00: Thriving.
1:43
SPEAKER_00: Doing well, man.
1:44
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having us.
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SPEAKER_00: We're awesome.
1:46
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for that intro.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't always get a sick intro like that.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh man, I'm glad it was sick.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm glad it was absolutely sick.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, I don't want to waste any time.
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SPEAKER_03: I hear all of you guys can speak on the project pretty equally.
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SPEAKER_03: Let's talk a little bit about your origin story.
2:04
SPEAKER_03: You already built a reputation based on rebellion, freedom, unapologetic self-expression.
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SPEAKER_03: How did Beauty School Dropout come together?
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SPEAKER_03: And what was the original vision behind the band?
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SPEAKER_01: Originally, well, the the vision was always to have a band.
2:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh originally it was kind of a solo project of mine that I was working on with our old guitarists.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: And um over the years, my first five years in LA, I had kind of met all these boys separately through different occasions, all related to music.
2:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I just really was focused on trying to figure out who my creative soulmates were.
2:42
SPEAKER_01: And uh one thing led to another, and eventually the timing felt right, and we were just like, all right, let's go all in on this.
2:48
SPEAKER_01: Uh Bardo was kind of the last piece of the puzzle.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: I had met these boys for uh I had known them for a couple years prior to that, but um I think the universe had spoken in terms of just like where all of our like lives were leading us and what we wanted, and there was alignment, so that was it.
3:07
SPEAKER_01: We just like ended up there were some songs that I had written that whole year before in our first session that we could with Bardo.
3:13
SPEAKER_01: We I brought one in and then me beepis and him kind of just like explored the idea, tore it apart, rebuilt it, and by the end of the day, we're just like, damn, this is this is interesting.
3:25
SPEAKER_01: I think we have something here.
3:27
SPEAKER_01: We should we should do that, which was hilarious because like Bardo was a he is still a producer, but at the time was only producing uh and had no intentions of being in a band, let alone joining ours.
3:38
SPEAKER_01: And so that was kind of a fight at first.
3:40
SPEAKER_01: Like I literally like started staying on this couch.
3:43
SPEAKER_01: I was just like, right, no, you're duty, mess with us.
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SPEAKER_03: I love it.
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SPEAKER_03: So, Colton Beepus, how did you guys kind of get brought into the fold and what were your visions of the project when you first joined on?
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SPEAKER_00: I had known these boys kind of prior to BSD.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, Coley and I had met when he was still in college, and I had a previous project that I was looking to start at the time and kind of had like a little thing going, and um yeah, I just saw he was a freaking star and knew his potential from the jump, and we just became brothers and kind of over time brought in some of the other guys, and uh, like you said, just like spiritual uh like musical partners.
4:24
SPEAKER_00: I guess like we just always saw that in each other, and one thing led to the next, we just kind of found each other again.
4:29
SPEAKER_02: So I met Coley, I was living in San Diego, and uh we met through my ex-girlfriend actually, and then he was like, You have to move to LA, and so I like moved back to Arizona for a year and or just under a year, saved up a bunch of money by a bunch.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean like six thousand dollars and then moved to LA, spent all that money within the first two months of being here, but then I joined um Strange Faces with Colton and Coley as it was fizzling out, and then just stayed close to the boys.
5:04
SPEAKER_02: And then when Coley was like doing beauty school dropout, I was like, I'll play anything, and that's how I ended up playing bass because you know I always wanted to play guitar, but I always get stuck as the bassist.
5:15
SPEAKER_03: I'm cool with it now, but do you know how common that is?
5:19
SPEAKER_03: I swear, like almost every band that I was in back in the day, the bass player originally started out as a guitarist.
5:26
SPEAKER_03: It's the curse of being a guitar player that knows how to play bass.
5:31
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_02: But at least you at least you know the instrument.
5:34
SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Now I love it.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, now I'm a bassist, but definitely when we first started, I was like, I'll play bass, I guess.
5:42
SPEAKER_03: So you guys have just released Two of Us along with other singles like Sex Appeal and Fever.
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SPEAKER_03: What story or message ties this new era of music and this project together?
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SPEAKER_01: I think ultimately just trying to bring rock and roll back as a whole, the attitude, the sound, the feel, the vibe, like we don't A, we feel like there's so many subcultures of rock now, right?
6:07
SPEAKER_01: To where we know we're not the heavy band, we know we're not the pop band, and we've kind of been in this like ambiguous limbo for the the first few years of the project where it was like I think we were able to take advantage of that, but now I think we're more in the headspace of like we want to just like own our niche and and just like carve out our own space in all of it.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: And um I think that attitude of the music that we grew up on and resonate with the most just really weeds into like our story, who we are, how we've lived, like how we've come up and what we want to represent, like you said, just like rebellion, freedom, that spiritual chaos, and uh that has taken us to new heights sonically as people, as friends.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just clit.
6:57
SPEAKER_03: You know, I find it really interesting, uh in in a good way and refreshing that you're talking about bringing a specific genre of music back to life.
7:07
SPEAKER_03: This has uh been a common theme of several of my recent episodes where we talk about in the era of streaming that the lines of genre typically don't exist anymore.
7:18
SPEAKER_03: Like back in the day, an AR rep would look at a band and they would be like, hey, pick a lane, stay in that lane and rock with it.
7:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
7:25
SPEAKER_03: Um, but now anymore, it seems like music genres are based more on mood as opposed to a specific sound or style.
7:35
SPEAKER_03: So it is really refreshing to hear somebody talk about bringing back that rock and roll swagger and rock and roll attitude again.
7:43
SPEAKER_02: We're not even like so hung up on like the sonics too of rock and roll, because we do a lot of like weird stuff, like throwing 808s in it.
7:49
SPEAKER_02: I think it's just the the thesis of rock and roll, the energy, the the shows, the aesthetic.
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SPEAKER_02: I think everything about it is what we love so much, and all of us just wanted to be rock stars when we were kids, and so now we're trying to live out that fantasy of being in a rock and roll band and playing crazy shows, diving into drum sets, crowd surfing, moshing.
8:15
SPEAKER_02: It's like for better or for worse, it's a drug, and we love it.
8:20
SPEAKER_03: What do you think it is culturally that keeps kind of bringing rock and roll full circle over and over and over again, even just beyond the music, just like you said, the aesthetics and the attitude and the the bravado of it?
8:35
SPEAKER_01: I think that there's been different iterations of it over the years.
8:40
SPEAKER_01: And I think in a weird way, like at one point it was just simply live music being a thing.
8:47
SPEAKER_01: In another way, I think it was like because it was so quiet, there were these bands that we've seen like kind of pamp pantomime and emulate what it was so close to the T, like literally the same exact sonics, the same exact dressing, whatever.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: And I think that there were people who there was a market of people who just wanted that kind of like nostalgia again.
9:09
SPEAKER_01: And now I think culturally we're in a place where it's just like for us, the attitude, you know, not should be disappointed.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: It's like our music I I think fever is the closest thing to the pulls of like what that sound was.
9:21
SPEAKER_01: Um but overall our sound catches something completely new and different, in my opinion.
9:27
SPEAKER_01: And and I think the bigger thing for us is just bringing that same kind of energy and authenticity back into the space where it's just like yeah, we do uh love to have a good time and party and view ourselves and like go hard and throw crazy shows like the control chaos is who we are as people, so why not just be 100% authentic to uh advocating that and representing that?
9:52
SPEAKER_00: We just respect like the cultural side of uh the scene.
9:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think when I just like uphold what that was in its like original form.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: I think like the commercialization of rock and roll kind of like killed the rock star for a long time.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: And I think like Cole said, there's been many iterations of that that have come back that felt more like cosplay than the real thing.
10:14
SPEAKER_00: And I think for us it's just about um yeah, that that authenticity of it and making sure that's that's present.
10:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's uh there's a term I I joke around with other uh some of my other musician friends where that there's that song Video Killed the Radio Star, but Internet Killed the Video Star.
10:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:32
SPEAKER_03: You know, in the same way, you know, so it kind of just kind of recapping exactly what you're saying.
10:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think Guitar Center killed the rock star.
10:45
SPEAKER_01: Really badly made Fender Squires.
10:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't think that this new generation of kids who are growing up with like TikTok and AI and Odysseus accessibility have really gotten a full taste of what that was either.
11:04
SPEAKER_01: So, in a sense, I think like as much as people like us might be familiar with it, I think it's kind of this new thing to a lot of the youth where they're like, Wait, what, this exists, and and I think to that point it's like we feel very compelled to keep pushing that and sipping that freedom, but people so kind of building on that, your debut album drops September 5th.
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SPEAKER_03: It was produced by Neil Abron, who's worked with giants like Fallout Boy and Lincoln Park.
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SPEAKER_03: What was it like collaborating with him and how did that shape and develop your sound?
11:38
SPEAKER_03: You know, we've we've talked about the aesthetic parts of it, but like let's talk about the sound of the band itself.
11:44
SPEAKER_02: I think what Neil brought out of us that we hadn't ever tapped into previously was just the rawness of being a rock band.
11:54
SPEAKER_02: We this was the first time we recorded fully on amps, like everything analog.
11:59
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we dove in and committed to tones immediately.
12:02
SPEAKER_02: I think uh the rock space with production being so advanced now, like you're able to emulate anything through an amp sim or whatever.
12:13
SPEAKER_02: And so there's so much non-committalness, like you you can change your mind a day before you go to mix on what your guitar sounds like.
12:20
SPEAKER_02: And for us with Neil, it was nope, we're gonna dial the tone in, we're gonna get it, we're gonna use these tones across the whole entire album.
12:28
SPEAKER_02: Same with drums.
12:29
SPEAKER_02: We had like maybe a different snare on a few of the different songs, but we had the same exact drum setup in his basement of his studio, it never changed.
12:38
SPEAKER_02: It was just like a real old school approach to recording an album.
12:45
SPEAKER_02: We had to get really good takes.
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SPEAKER_02: There was minimal editing on anything.
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SPEAKER_02: I would there was one song where I played the same four court four notes for like two hours because I he was like, You can you can get it perfect.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, dude, I don't think I can actually get it perfect.
13:02
SPEAKER_02: But I I was starting to feel really defeated.
13:04
SPEAKER_02: I was like, why can't I just play this right?
13:07
SPEAKER_02: But now we're better for it too.
13:09
SPEAKER_02: I you can tell when we are in rehearsals now and playing shows that all the new songs they're like ingrained into us in a different way.
13:16
SPEAKER_02: We're not having to like tour them a bunch to like really feel them.
13:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
13:22
SPEAKER_03: That's that's also the difference between like being a local regional band recording with an engineer versus like leveling up and recording with an actual producer is those little niche attention to details that maybe not everybody thinks of about.
13:37
SPEAKER_00: Not only just a producer, but also just a mixer.
13:39
SPEAKER_00: Like Neil's such an incredible mixer going into the recording process, he approaches certain things with different techniques that we wouldn't necessarily think about.
13:48
SPEAKER_03: And then now you're about to do this tour with Blink 182.
13:53
SPEAKER_03: Are are is this a pinch yourself moment right now?
13:56
SPEAKER_02: We've been blessed that this is our second time touring with them.
14:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
14:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh and this time it's with Alcalantrio too.
14:05
SPEAKER_02: Right.
14:07
SPEAKER_02: The fact that the lineup is us, Alcalantrio and Blink, is definitely a pinch me moment.
14:13
SPEAKER_02: There, that's the exact music I grew up listening to.
14:16
SPEAKER_02: Um Blink is my favorite band.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: It's also just cool getting to play arenas and amp theaters and stadiums with such cool people.
14:24
SPEAKER_02: Right.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: Mark has also been a champion for us since the beginning.
14:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was gonna ask about that.
14:30
SPEAKER_03: You guys have you guys have collaborated with Mark in the past.
14:34
SPEAKER_03: So did was that kind of the breadcrumbs that led you from point A to point B in this scenario?
14:40
SPEAKER_03: Definitely one of the breadcrumbs.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: I think we've been blessed with a lot of musicians that like co-signed us very early on.
14:49
SPEAKER_02: Shout out like Jason Butler from Fever 333 and Let Live.
14:53
SPEAKER_02: And um the list goes on and on and on of just so many cool musicians that we look up to uh signing us and just giving us little bits of knowledge along the way.
15:05
SPEAKER_01: I was just gonna say, I feel like at the end of the day, like like they have just been so instrumental in us being ourselves, and if ever we're in a situation where we're like, oh well, it would this be poor radio or with this city out there, just like they really hold the beer up ourselves and force us to just be like, okay, well, what do we want?
15:22
SPEAKER_01: And I think that uh realistically, we we always have put the word in, but they've been really, really huge advocates of like, okay, well, does this represent you?
15:35
SPEAKER_03: So your shows are known for being high energy and raw.
15:38
SPEAKER_03: How do you approach creating that live experience and connection with fans?
15:44
SPEAKER_01: We love community and we love bringing people together, and I think that's kind of the principle that this whole band has been founded on.
15:50
SPEAKER_01: It's just like how to connect people and and to uh give them the same kind of healing through music that I think we all experienced as kids and and young adults.
15:59
SPEAKER_01: Um and that the actual nature of the shows, I mean I think we just got a lot, we got a lot heads up.
16:08
SPEAKER_01: We're we're very emotional people, and we have a lot that we hold in.
16:13
SPEAKER_01: And I think that that is our therapy in a lot of ways.
16:17
SPEAKER_03: Leaning into some of your experiences, um who kind of who are some of your influences as far as developing what kind of sound you wanted to go for and what your live show would look like and sound like I think sonically we all have a very wide spectrum of artists that we pull from, so it's hard to say or even narrow it down to like a limited number of people.
16:46
SPEAKER_01: I think we all kind of have our go-to's.
16:49
SPEAKER_01: Um, but then I feel like in terms of the actual show itself, we definitely look to a lot of our peers in the rock space.
16:57
SPEAKER_01: We look at like the turnstiles of the worlds and the nirvanas of the worlds and the people who even if their songs do have a pop-centric melody to it, can still achieve bringing that side of people out where it's just like off the floor, jumping, mosh pits, crowd surfing, just like full visceral engagement.
17:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think like we again we just like take from like um more so like the cultural side of like that punk space that we come from and like uh the feeling that we were given when we were younger from being a part of that space and like Colstead is trying to create like a an inclusive place for people to kind of have that visceral release um that I think comes out through you know what what we're doing musically and in our performance, and then also just like the community feel that our fans have being together um amongst each other, um, sharing that experience together.
17:49
SPEAKER_03: I love that.
17:51
SPEAKER_03: Now, individually, um, was there a flip the switch moment that each one of you had where you went to a live show as a fan and you're like, okay, shit, this is the this is the moment, this is the thing I I want to do for the rest of my life?
18:07
SPEAKER_03: I've I've had that like so many times in my life.
18:10
SPEAKER_02: Actually, I feel like I don't cry a lot, but for some reason when I'm at a show that's like one of my favorite bands, or just someone who's performing so well, like it like triggers that response to me.
18:23
SPEAKER_02: And I just hope that I can give that same feeling to especially the kids that want to do this as well.
18:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just it's so visceral.
18:35
SPEAKER_02: Music is like the only thing that like I think hits all the sensories, yeah.
18:42
SPEAKER_02: Um and yeah, I can only imagine how it feels for other people to like watch their favorite band, and I just want to do that for people.
18:50
SPEAKER_01: Mine was weirdly specific because I always thought I was gonna play guitar.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: Like I grew up a show rap.
18:57
SPEAKER_01: My dad was taking me to concerts from the age of five on, and he wanted me to play guitar, and so that was like a big influence in my life.
19:05
SPEAKER_01: But I think the moment that I always go back to that I knew I wanted to have the mic in my hands was uh actually a let live show at Shea Cafe, where it was must have been like 200 people max in this packed little DIY punk spot in San Diego, and uh they used to do this cover of Fix Me by Black Flag, and Jason and I kind of knew each other at this point, so he recognized me at the front of the crowd, but like literally hands me the microphone and then just front flips over me and starts headwalking everybody, and then next thing I know, it's like me and like five people at the front of the stage all fighting over this mic, but just not even fighting, all just trying to grab it, but we're all like vehemently screaming the lyrics to fix me.
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SPEAKER_01: And I just remember seeing him like hanging from the rafters, everyone throwing hands, and at the back of the room, my dad had come to the show, and he just was watching, like, and I don't even know why, but I like I remember I like flipped him off.
20:04
SPEAKER_01: Like I was like, fuck you, like and I love my dad.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was it was not like an angry thing, but it's a moment of like that that level of release where I was like, holy shit, this is yes, this is the feeling I want forever.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: I've been in bands since I was just a little kid.
20:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, my neighbors across the street when I was a little kid, we started a band, and ever since then, as long as I can remember, I've been in a band.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: And I think um even more so than like the live performance aspect of music and you know what we get out of that, I think I just always knew that I wanted to have that brothership and like that level of closeness and and family that is, you know, um, in some cases, even stronger than you know, blood.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think, you know, these guys, I've I've been playing music with them for almost a decade now, you know.
20:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, and so I think for me it's just the ability to continue doing that and just be a part of this thing that's like greater than um just like greater than myself.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: And I think performing it is just a live vessel to be able to like communicate that um information that we're farming together, I guess.
21:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
21:15
SPEAKER_03: So how do you guys keep that feeling fresh for yourselves as you're performing?
21:20
SPEAKER_03: You know, how do you keep it from feeling mundane and like a chore and keep it like get that same energy and that same energy exchange with audiences whenever you guys go and play live?
21:34
SPEAKER_01: I think it's again such an emotional release for all of us.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't think we have a choice, I don't think we know anything else.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: I think now we're at a point where we've done it enough to where we're trying to refine the craft of showmanship and have like intention behind certain moves and certain things that we do on stage and how we engage with the crowd.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: But uh I think we're as nice as we are, all kind of angry.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: We have this.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: We have that anger in our hearts to where we have to let it out somehow healthily, and this is uh I think how we do that.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: We're adding a destruction budget to our touring budgeting now because at our show in New York that we just played at Silverlining, Bardo decided that it'd be a sick idea to Donkey Kong the bass drum.
22:22
SPEAKER_02: He literally picked it up, he smashed it.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god as I was playing it.
22:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: Lovely.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: Lovely.
22:32
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
22:33
SPEAKER_02: That's the stuff we love.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm excited just to like once there's more rafters and all these things, just to like climb and flip off, and as the crowds get denser, we can dive from higher spots.
22:45
SPEAKER_03: And you guys, you guys have all been doing this long enough.
22:50
SPEAKER_03: You you kind of get where I was coming from with that question.
22:52
SPEAKER_03: We I think we've all been on stages where we're like, this is now starting to feel like a chore.
22:58
SPEAKER_03: Like, and you know it's time to call that project wraps whenever it starts like not being fun anymore and you're not emotionally invested anymore.
23:07
SPEAKER_03: Have you guys had that experience with past projects?
23:09
SPEAKER_03: I'm not asking you to shit on any past projects, by the way.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh, absolutely.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: I feel like at the end of the day, you're making art, right?
23:18
SPEAKER_02: And if you're not passionate about what you're doing, then it kind of fizzes out.
23:23
SPEAKER_02: And I think the coolest part about this band is that all four of us are so all in that if one of us starts falling out slightly, they have the space to actually take their time to like goof figure out what they need to, and the other three members will like carry the flag, and when that other person's good to come back, they come back and nothing's changed.
23:49
SPEAKER_02: The one place where I think we all just like have never gotten bored of is the live show.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: I think that's why we do this.
23:57
SPEAKER_03: I love that.
23:58
SPEAKER_03: I love that.
23:58
SPEAKER_03: Is the band the last refuge for that chosen family environment where you know you build true brotherhood, true build a true family bond with people that might not be blood related to you?
24:13
SPEAKER_03: For sure.
24:14
SPEAKER_03: We call it a marriage.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: We're married to each other.
24:18
SPEAKER_02: Like marriage, you have to put effort into to make it work.
24:22
SPEAKER_02: It's not always glamorous.
24:24
SPEAKER_02: A lot, a lot more than not, it is not glamorous.
24:27
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of stress and a lot of things you have to go through, and traveling non-stop is really hard.
24:33
SPEAKER_02: You get sick, you fight, you do all these things, but we have so much love for each other.
24:38
SPEAKER_02: Um I would do anything for my dudes.
24:42
SPEAKER_03: Your music often challenges the status quo and celebrates individuality.
24:48
SPEAKER_03: What do you hope fans take away from your songs and your presence as a band?
24:54
SPEAKER_01: I think the same thing that we've been talking about, just like how we all even got into this in the first place, which is just really falling in love with the community and the healing aspect that music brings out of us.
25:10
SPEAKER_01: Like I think we've all had our dark times, and I think music was always the solace for all of us, and that's just been the through line of everything.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: And I think to be able to uh give that back to people now in our adulthood is like the coolest thing ever.
25:23
SPEAKER_03: So, with the album dropping soon and a massive year of touring, what's the big vision for beauty school dropout moving forward?
25:32
SPEAKER_03: Where do you want this ride to take all of you guys?
25:35
SPEAKER_03: I hope it's an endless roller quick.
25:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just making it as big and loud and obnoxious as possible.
25:41
SPEAKER_02: I want every person on earth to either love us or hate us and nothing in between.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: As long as they spell our name right, they can say anything they want.
25:53
SPEAKER_03: I love that.
25:54
SPEAKER_03: I love that.
25:56
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, do you guys have a favorite destination that you're looking forward to returning to with this upcoming tour?
26:06
SPEAKER_03: London.
26:07
SPEAKER_03: We love the UK.
26:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:09
SPEAKER_03: Love London.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: What's different about the UK than than playing here in the States?
26:14
SPEAKER_01: I think on a consumer level, the way that people engage with music is much different.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: Like America's very big on like the fan culture resonates more with like, let's take the photo, let's like freak out and do the thing, and then let's also stand still and like video while we're in the show.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: Whereas I think in the European and UK markets, we've seen a lot more of the inverse, where it's like we run into fans outside of the shows and they're like almost timid and scared, like want to be super mindful and respectful of our time, but then when the show comes on, they just go hard.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: And um, I think it actually took going there for a few times for us to realize that that was a thing and start thinking about how we can implement that more into the crowds that were coming to our shows out here because there was a moment where it was like they were still exciting and we were still going hard, but it was like almost this enamoring thing for people, where it's like stand still and watch and just be captured.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: Whereas now I think a lot of the fan base is picking up on the attitude of it and starting to give a lot more of like we had, I mean, even one of our last shows, there was like 55-year-old woman who's I just crowd surf for the first time ever.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: And we were just like, yes.
27:32
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, more of that.
27:35
SPEAKER_03: So, where did the uh the concept for the title, where do where did all the butterflies go come from?
27:41
SPEAKER_01: It's a pretty emotional time, and and uh I was kind of hitting a little rock bottom moment where I just genuinely had to ask myself that question.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: I was just like, where did my love for all of this shit that I've gotten myself into go because I wasn't feeling it then?
27:58
SPEAKER_01: And uh I think that we had a similar moment.
28:02
SPEAKER_01: This was ironically probably a year into the album, and it wasn't even so much the music that was bringing me down.
28:07
SPEAKER_01: There were other things, relationships, you know, whatever things in my life that I just wasn't resonating with at the time.
28:14
SPEAKER_01: And um, I think similar to then when we had gotten back from touring in 2023, there was just a lot of hoops we had to jump through and a lot of exhaustion we were feeling to the point where it's like, what are we doing?
28:28
SPEAKER_01: Like, why do we feel this way?
28:30
SPEAKER_01: And so I think in a way, this album is reclaiming that power and like reclaiming that feeling in that narrative and just like finding ourselves again and hopefully allowing people to do the same for themselves.
28:44
SPEAKER_03: I love that.
28:45
SPEAKER_03: I love that you guys all seem very focused and like goal-centric right now, and I I I absolutely love that for you because I think we've all had different phases in our lives where we've felt that way.
29:00
SPEAKER_03: So, how anxious are you for this thing to just finally be out in the world and you guys be able to move on to this next chapter?
29:09
SPEAKER_03: We've been waiting to drop this album since it started.
29:14
SPEAKER_01: I think we're dying a little bit.
29:17
SPEAKER_02: What comes after an album is touring, and I think again, it's it comes back to the show.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: Like, I've I don't want to speak for them, but I literally do everything in my life and this band to play shows.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're just trail we're trailblazing right now.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: I think we're we're all just feeling very focused and um just hungry for for more.
29:38
SPEAKER_03: Have you guys ever been in that phase where you have something, a recording in the can, and you're just like kind of sitting ready to get it out because you've got a whole other batch of songs you want to start testing.
29:51
SPEAKER_03: And is that a space where you guys are also kind of living right now?
29:56
SPEAKER_01: Or are you just focused on the album?
29:59
SPEAKER_01: I think more on the live side, like we've had the songs now, we want these songs to come out, but I think more than anything, like we've been playing a lot of the songs in our live set for years now, and it's and I know fans love it, but I think we're at the point where we're ready to graduate and kind of give them a new side of us and let them grow with us as we have as individuals, and I think that more than anything, we're just excited to be able to start playing this new music and like garner that hype and really focus on the energy of the shows and just like bringing our movement with us.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: It all feels like a like a major like chapter turn, and I think we're just looking forward to immersing people into the the world that we're creating right now.
30:37
SPEAKER_03: My wrap-up question, kind of a little bit off the wall, but I do like to uh get everybody's individual perspectives on it.
30:46
SPEAKER_03: You guys can answer one at a time.
30:48
SPEAKER_03: Um, but given your guys' experience being in a band, band together, touring, recording this album, kind of looking into the future, what's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today based on your worldly view?
31:06
SPEAKER_02: Just give a shit about your neighbor.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, I really just believe that kindness goes so far.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: Um you don't know what anyone else is going through.
31:16
SPEAKER_02: And even a smile to a stranger could change their day, their life.
31:24
SPEAKER_02: And I love complimenting people, I love gassing people up, I love cleaning up at a I'm eating dinner, I like cleaning the table up a little bit for the waiter, you know, just anything to like help make someone's day easier.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think Beepus like has instilled that even in me as as a person is just always um leaving it better than you found it.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: I think as a band, that's like a huge part of our you know, our ethos and and what we believe in.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: So we try and apply that in everything we do.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: I think for me, just like keeping an open mind and an open heart, I think we're in a time where everything is so polarized and it's so easy to want to scream and shout just to get your opinion cross when at the end of the day we all want the same thing.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: So I think everyone wants to like feel good, have security, have all these things.
32:15
SPEAKER_01: We just have different ways of expressing it.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: And so I think for me that is that is the big thing.
32:20
SPEAKER_01: It's just like it's not always gonna be what we want it to be, but so long as we're willing to accept whatever challenges we might face or whatever obstacles we have to hurdle, it's like nothing's impossible.
32:33
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I think we are in a state of society where people spend too much time listening to respond instead of listening to learn.
32:42
SPEAKER_03: So, kind of to accent everything that you guys said, you you're absolutely right.
32:47
SPEAKER_03: Little little small acts of kindness every day make a world of difference.
32:52
SPEAKER_03: So I love that.
32:54
SPEAKER_03: Why don't you guys tell my audience where they can find you and your music online?
33:01
SPEAKER_03: Plug your shit, guys.
33:03
SPEAKER_01: At BSD.wave on Instagram, beauty.school.dropout on TikTok, beauty school dropout everywhere else.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: And if you can't find it through that, then I think there's a some deeper questions to ask yourself.
33:19
SPEAKER_02: Come to a show.
33:21
SPEAKER_02: That's all I care about.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: Stream uh our new record coming out September 5th.
33:26
SPEAKER_03: Love it.
33:27
SPEAKER_03: I love it.
33:27
SPEAKER_03: Guys, thank you so much for doing the pod.
33:30
SPEAKER_03: The world is a much better place with you in it.
33:32
SPEAKER_03: I can't wait to see you guys in the real world.
33:35
SPEAKER_03: And come to a show.
33:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, bro.
33:36
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having.
33:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, thank you, brother.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: We look forward to seeing you at a show.
33:40
SPEAKER_03: Once again, I want to thank my friends from Beauty School Dropout for being on the podcast today.
33:46
SPEAKER_03: Obviously, we recorded this before the album dropped and before they went on tour with Blink, but they are on the road with Blink right now.
33:54
SPEAKER_03: They're on the road with Alkaline Trio right now.
33:57
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34:02
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34:11
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34:14
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34:17
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34:21
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34:25
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34:34
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34:38
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34:40
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