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She blames MAGA for her debt | Maintaining Frame 189 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: All right, hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Brian, I'm with Alison and this is
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  Speaker 1: maintaining frame number one eighty nine. She blames Maga for
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  Speaker 1: her debt. Where we are going to be looking at
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  Speaker 1: two videos from a popular YouTube channel called Caleb Hammer.
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Hammer does financial advice, or at least like this
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  Speaker 1: is like what the it says on the tin, right,
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  Speaker 1: but what it usually ends up being is kind of
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  Speaker 1: like a you know, show about a guy that like
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  Speaker 1: yells at people for being bad with money. So that's
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  Speaker 1: what that's what it is. And you know, he has like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, mental breakdowns, and sometimes the guests have mental breakdowns. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and what you get is basically you have like most
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  Speaker 1: of the people who come on there are younger, and
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  Speaker 1: they have made poor choices or they find themselves in
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  Speaker 1: debt somehow and they're going to him for financial advice
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  Speaker 1: and he does it, but the cost is shame. So
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking at videos where the people on
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  Speaker 1: his show are trying to blame the rise of fascism
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  Speaker 1: for their financial situation, whether that is because the system
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  Speaker 1: itself is against them or the existence of the system
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  Speaker 1: has caused them to make poor choices, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: their fault. And these are one is a woman, the
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  Speaker 1: first one, and the second one is a couple as
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  Speaker 1: a woman and a man.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and.
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  Speaker 3: As we all know, fascism is a code word for masculinity.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, usually usually usually isn't this is a request? Right?
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  Speaker 1: So who's sent us in?
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  Speaker 3: Richard Bierre? This is a request. And my first introduction
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  Speaker 3: to Caleb Hammer was a short that was taken out
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  Speaker 3: of his auditing of an Only Fans creator. Now, she
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  Speaker 3: wasn't a really big Only Fans creator. She said she
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  Speaker 3: had two main supporters, one of whom was under the
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  Speaker 3: impression that he might be able to have a relationship
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  Speaker 3: with her, and she had a friend. So the OnlyFans
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  Speaker 3: creator was sort of like a mid woman. And then
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  Speaker 3: she had what they call like a handmaiden, which is
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  Speaker 3: a significantly less attractive woman. And the significantly less attractive
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  Speaker 3: woman kept white knighting for the Only Fans creator or
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what you call it when it's
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  Speaker 3: a woman, and kept telling Caleb she's just a treator
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  Speaker 3: she's just let her be a girl, like let her
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  Speaker 3: be audited by the irs, you know, end up in
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  Speaker 3: jail or with a significant fine. Okay, all right, but anyway,
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  Speaker 3: it was just that's what that was the first my
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  Speaker 3: first introduction to Caleb Hammer, and he was honestly, I
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  Speaker 3: think that when I sort of analyzed it, I thought
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  Speaker 3: he was actually being very very nice to her because
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  Speaker 3: technically what she was doing with her one one patron
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  Speaker 3: or a what I don't know what it called supporter
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  Speaker 3: client was technically relationship fraud. There is such a thing,
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  Speaker 3: and it is not legal to give people lead people
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  Speaker 3: on with the impression that you are in a relationship
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  Speaker 3: with them. It is no longer. It used to be
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  Speaker 3: called heart bomb laws. It used to only apply to
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  Speaker 3: men leading women along, but now it is considered like
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  Speaker 3: as a gender neutral form of con artistry and it
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  Speaker 3: is not actually legal. So Caleb was explaining to her
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  Speaker 3: what she needed to do to I guess, make sure
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  Speaker 3: that she was within the law in terms of her
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  Speaker 3: taxes and what she needed to declare, and also tell
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  Speaker 3: told her you should stop doing that. You should tell
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  Speaker 3: this client very clearly that you know you're not ever
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  Speaker 3: intending to be in a relationship with him. Otherwise you're
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  Speaker 3: engaging in relationship fraud. I'm not exactly sure if it's
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  Speaker 3: termed relationship fraud, but it's that kind of thing. And
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  Speaker 3: I looked at that and I said, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: fact he isn't actually turning her in for breaking the
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  Speaker 3: law is sort of It's not not gonna say it's simping,
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  Speaker 3: but it is sort of. It is giving her the
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  Speaker 3: girl pass a little because I'm pretty sure if a
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  Speaker 3: man came on his show and said, yeah, I'm leading
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  Speaker 3: this old lady alone, she thinks she's gonna have a
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  Speaker 3: relationship with me, ha ha. But no, she's just paying
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  Speaker 3: for my sneakers, you know, like he would not be like, well,
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  Speaker 3: you should be a little careful with that. I want
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  Speaker 3: to reconsider your life choice. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna turn you into the authorities, but you
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  Speaker 3: might want to take a sharp u turn on that
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  Speaker 3: path of life there, you know. So there's a there's
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  Speaker 3: a difference. But anyways, it's interesting to see him again.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, this one, I'm not so sure if it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna end up being as tied to gender. But we'll see,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, well, we got a request from Richard,
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  Speaker 1: so he's obviously got did you watch these Richard or
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  Speaker 1: did you just see how long they were and sent
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  Speaker 1: them to us. I'm just curious. These are like these
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  Speaker 1: videos are like an hour and a half and so
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  Speaker 1: if and they're usually most of it is just him
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  Speaker 1: saying I can't believe you're this stupid, and the other
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  Speaker 1: people shrugging and gritting like idiots, and I'm not Look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not shitting on the content. Like Lindsay loves this
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  Speaker 1: stuff for some reason. But it's it can be. It's
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  Speaker 1: a lot. It's like a lot to sift through a
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  Speaker 1: lot substance.
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  Speaker 3: It's entirely possible. He just saw this length and said yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, oh, I bet they'd like this. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you Richard.
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  Speaker 3: Sure anyway, So yep, this was a request, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: a comment too, because it avoids comment YouTube's comment labyrinth,
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  Speaker 3: The Minotaur and the center of YouTube's comment labyrinth, which
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  Speaker 3: is censorship.
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  Speaker 4: See how my analogy.
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  Speaker 3: Was very stealthful. Anyway, let's let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: Just call it orgo the labyrinth. That is you trying
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  Speaker 1: to describe the labyrinth. Okay, okay, So we're gonna start
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  Speaker 1: with this video from Financial Audit called she blames Maga
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  Speaker 1: for her debt. Uh, yes, this is what she claims.
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  Speaker 1: So let's let's play this clip. Oh, she's gonna give
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  Speaker 1: us a little bit of her life situation.
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  Speaker 5: In their hair that they might be afraid that you're
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  Speaker 5: the one with razors and scissors.
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  Speaker 1: She's a hair dresser or something. That's how she makes
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  Speaker 1: her money right now. She does hair, So.
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  Speaker 6: They are just as crazy as I am. Actually, it's fantastic,
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  Speaker 6: very good.
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  Speaker 2: So you must be making good money business.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like we're I feel like we're missing a
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  Speaker 3: big part of the plot here. Perhaps we should go
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  Speaker 3: back about thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I don't know if you're gonna get much, but okay.
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  Speaker 4: I absolutely do.
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  Speaker 2: It's a permit trying to shake a process.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 4: Your hair is not healthy enough.
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  Speaker 7: To do it?
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  Speaker 2: Huh yet yours? Yep, you said yours?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, talking about me?
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  Speaker 8: Hair?
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  Speaker 2: Talk to yourself in the yours.
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  Speaker 6: I absolutely do. I have third person conversations all the.
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  Speaker 2: Time, hopefully not out loud.
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  Speaker 4: I worked for myself, so kind of.
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  Speaker 2: There are people in the chair if you start doing.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, oh god, the context doesn't make it better.
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  Speaker 1: No, okay, okay, let's keep going.
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  Speaker 5: While you're doing their hair that they might be afraid
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  Speaker 5: that you're the one with razors and scissors.
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  Speaker 6: They are just as crazy as I am. Actually it's fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Wait no, no, I have questions right off the bat,
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  Speaker 3: what is this like the little care shop of horrors?
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  Speaker 1: I think that she does hair, uh, independently, Like it's
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  Speaker 1: not like she owns a salon or anything.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you no, I get. I get the neutral context
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  Speaker 3: that she owns a salon and that she does hair.
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  Speaker 3: It's everything that's flavoring the neutral context that has got
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  Speaker 3: me baffled and concerned.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she owns a salon. She's a hair stylist.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not like from our house. She does
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  Speaker 1: own a salon, but it's a small place. Okay, but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we're let's keep going.
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  Speaker 2: You must be making good money business owner. I'm hoping
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  Speaker 2: not as much.
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  Speaker 6: We've got kids at home and they're kind of the priority.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, well you say, we see I don't know are
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  Speaker 5: we talking we as in you?
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  Speaker 7: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, I have kids at home and they are my priority.
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  Speaker 2: So that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: I make so that I can show up for them.
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  Speaker 4: I a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: So it's just you.
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  Speaker 2: It is just me. Okay, good? How many? Well not good?
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  Speaker 2: But whatever is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: You're a single mom. Okay, you can avoid that.
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  Speaker 3: We gave you. We gave women like every every potential
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to avoid becoming single moms or quote unquote exploited
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  Speaker 3: by men, and yet somehow it still keeps happening.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, it seems to happen even more. Yeah, okay, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so she's a single mom.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing that's changed is that we seem to
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  Speaker 3: blame them less and less.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, well, in fact, we celebrate single motherhood. It's the
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  Speaker 1: bravest thing you can do. It's so it takes so
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  Speaker 1: much courage, mostly from the judgment of other people that
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  Speaker 1: might think you should have a man at your house
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  Speaker 1: or something. So that's where the courage is at.
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  Speaker 3: You know, maybe you should have prioritized having children with
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  Speaker 3: the man who was going to have a relationship with
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  Speaker 3: them and indicated as such by marrying you. Yeah uh,
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  Speaker 3: or alternatively, you shouldn't have taken the husband or the
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  Speaker 3: father out of their kids life lives. You know. Well,
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  Speaker 3: let's go with this, all right. It's it is a
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  Speaker 3: thing that has happened.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, kids two, nine and eleven.
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  Speaker 1: So her kids are nine and eleven. Is that a coincidence?
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  Speaker 1: I think not? Never forget?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, what's going on?
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  Speaker 6: So I am actually kind of in debt because of
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  Speaker 6: the past election. Why, oh boy, I know, it's kind
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  Speaker 6: of crazy that escalated to acknowledge it.
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  Speaker 2: What the do you possibly mean? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I am deeply, deeply curious the connection. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there might be a connection to the rise
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  Speaker 3: of AI, although I really doubt that she was in it.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think she's Ai. Especially she's a hairdresser.
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  Speaker 1: AI is not cutting hair yet, although.
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  Speaker 3: I imagine that her clients might consider an AI hairdresser
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  Speaker 3: a woman who muttered are yourself in the second person
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  Speaker 3: while cutting her I hope that was just a joke
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  Speaker 3: that got away with got away from her? Oh how
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  Speaker 3: would that go? You hope that it's just a joke
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  Speaker 3: that it got away that she got got away from her.
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  Speaker 3: You hope that? All right, let's go that's really.
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  Speaker 5: Freaking election or inauguration that was like all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: here's alone, federal government.
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  Speaker 2: Please have it.
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  Speaker 6: So most of my clients are affected by how the
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  Speaker 6: economy works, including.
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  Speaker 5: All that's everything in the service based economy.
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  Speaker 6: Including my boyfriend's work. He's in construction, and his income
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  Speaker 6: has been affected drastically.
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  Speaker 2: And in construction, what do you mean? What kind of
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  Speaker 2: construction does he?
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  Speaker 6: He mostly does flooring, done whole home remodels. He does
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  Speaker 6: some handyman work here and there, but a lot of
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  Speaker 6: that work has slowed down as well.
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  Speaker 5: That's interesting because if I'm not mistaken, especially when home
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  Speaker 5: presses were sorry and as materials.
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  Speaker 3: Were, I remember why this one was chosen. I remember
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  Speaker 3: it's because of her particular arrangement of her relationship. And
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  Speaker 3: if I can, if I recall, she and her boyfriend
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  Speaker 3: don't live together. He maintains a separate, separate residence and
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  Speaker 3: pays for her apartment. And the reason why he's done
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  Speaker 3: that is to avoid common law marriage. Oh but but
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  Speaker 3: maybe that could be completely wrong. I could be I
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  Speaker 3: could be imagining things. So let's let's find out.
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  Speaker 5: Right, stopped renovating as quickly, and that was in the
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  Speaker 5: high inflation time. Wouldn't that have in fact that his
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  Speaker 5: job as well about three four years ago.
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  Speaker 2: So then got a little better for a while, and
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 4: For a little while.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, and we were kind of doing okay at that point.
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  Speaker 6: Now we do live separately and we handle our finances
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  Speaker 6: all separately. You've broken up, No, we just live separately.
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  Speaker 7: We have now.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, you were together, we are together. No, you live
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  Speaker 4: together for a short time.
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  Speaker 5: It's usually indigative of a great relationship moving out.
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  Speaker 6: We did not agree on how some of the debt
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  Speaker 6: situations were being handled.
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  Speaker 2: And to keep an incredible.
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  Speaker 4: Relationship outside of that, it's actually all.
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  Speaker 3: Man, he's spicy. Mm hmm. He's actually more spicy than
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  Speaker 3: I was expecting based on the last one I watched.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, he's I mean, look, a lot of it
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  Speaker 1: is bands for the clicks. So yeah, so I think
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  Speaker 1: that you know, and I say this because well, I
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  Speaker 1: understand he like plays up his reactions, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that the guests are usually informed that that's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen because they're creating content. So that I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: nothing is authentic, Like these people are not real people
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  Speaker 1: with real lives. I'm saying that the everything is dramatized
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  Speaker 1: and sort of like amplified for the internet. So uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's probably being honest, but there they know that this
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  Speaker 1: is like the way the show is supposed to be.
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  Speaker 2: So mm.
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  Speaker 5: Outside of the things where we agree on life matters
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  Speaker 5: is great.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like a nice trends with benefits.
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  Speaker 6: But we to keep each other from getting tied to
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  Speaker 6: each other's debts, we decided to live separately.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean you weren't married?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, living together doesn't all of a sudden make it
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  Speaker 5: a legally binding thing.
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  Speaker 4: Common law comes into play.
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  Speaker 2: Are you in like common law marriage?
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  Speaker 6: No, because and a big reason to avoid that is
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  Speaker 6: a big way to avoid that.
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  Speaker 4: It's not living together. We don't share a mailing address.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So I think that this man has determined that
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  Speaker 3: this woman is a disaster, and while she still willing
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  Speaker 3: to hit it, he definitely quit it in a domestic sense.
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  Speaker 1: So he's well at least at least at least until
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  Speaker 1: their debt situation is figured out. And might it might
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  Speaker 1: be her debt situation, Like I know she's saying our
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  Speaker 1: but it might just be hers, which I guess is
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  Speaker 1: a smart move on his because he's not on the show,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't know what his situation is, so we
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  Speaker 1: only have her word, right. So, but she does end
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  Speaker 1: up I want to say, like a few grand in debt,
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  Speaker 1: like after they figure out all of her expenses and everything.
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  Speaker 1: We just see, Yeah, thirty three hundred in debt soon.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, Yet not living together, we don't share a mailing address,
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  Speaker 6: so it can't be insinuated or taken as we are
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  Speaker 6: living together and presenting as a married couple because we
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  Speaker 6: aren't and we don't.
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  Speaker 2: So going above and beyond in that.
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  Speaker 4: So last election, Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a little on exactly what you mean by that.
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  Speaker 9: Now.
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  Speaker 5: I know job numbers, jobless numbers, unemployment overall. I've covered
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  Speaker 5: this in the live streams on the Caleb Hammer Live
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  Speaker 5: YouTube channel ever since like the height of the best
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  Speaker 5: employee market in the history of basically humanity about four
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  Speaker 5: years ago. You know, jobs gain on a monthly basis
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  Speaker 5: has been a steady decline. You know, people think the
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  Speaker 5: president has a lot more impact than they do.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 5: You could yell tariffs, you could yell a lot of things, right,
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  Speaker 5: which I'm sure you will.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, no, I really.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. I h well, I'm glad that he
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  Speaker 3: keeps a sort of a neutral line. That's something I
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  Speaker 3: would definitely agree with. I don't think presidents have as
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  Speaker 3: much of an impact on the economy as we are
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  Speaker 3: led to believe, yes, or want to believe. So okay,
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  Speaker 3: let's let's see.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I mean, I think that like
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  Speaker 1: it's so alds like a stock market, like companies react
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  Speaker 1: to it's kind of emotional in a way, you know,
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  Speaker 1: But the presidents don't affect that really. I mean when
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  Speaker 1: Biden was in office and they said they created a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of jobs, they did, but they were all government jobs,
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  Speaker 1: and government jobs are a net negative. They're basically negative jobs.
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  Speaker 1: They are jobs, but they're jobs paid for by taxpayers,
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  Speaker 1: so they're not creating money, you know, they're taking it,
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  Speaker 1: so they don't count. But but if you if everyone
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  Speaker 1: thinks that things are well, are good, and they're more
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  Speaker 1: likely to start business, that's what I mean, Like how
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  Speaker 1: the stock market is like if people become afraid, then
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  Speaker 1: the stocks can change based on that, but that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really reflect the value, and it's not something controlled by
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  Speaker 1: some top authority.
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  Speaker 6: But anyway, anyway, I don't think they can impact as
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  Speaker 6: much as both stay that they well.
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  Speaker 5: They can, it just takes long go right, And even
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  Speaker 5: the Federal Reserve Jerome Powell, who is not the biggest
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  Speaker 5: fan of Trump uh specifically says we will not see
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  Speaker 5: the long term the effects of tariffs for like a
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  Speaker 5: decently while it takes a long time to filter through
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: the economy. People get hyper political and excited online, but
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: you know, it's like whatever, But we're on the same
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: trajectory and trend that we have been in terms of
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: job numbers added on a monthly basis. Like if we
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: would be almost in a very similar economic thing we're
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: in right now, if Kamalo is president as well, would
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: you be saying the exact same thing that because of
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: the last election you have lost money, so you blame it?
• 19:40
  Speaker 10: What is this just bullshit?
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Like just just get a hatful of little cards of
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: potential things to external things to blame and just pulled
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: the election out. All that sounds clever and or sophisticated.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I'll just blame the election that happens every four years,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: just the election, not who was elected, not Trump and
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: apparently not Camel. I feel like she doesn't. She's trying
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: to avoid being cornered, honestly, but you know, let's let's.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Let's yeah, well, if she doesn't want to say that
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: she was that, Yeah, anyway, let's just keep you going.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: No, and you can blame economic conditions. I bet people
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: do less home renovations when things aren't as juicy. It's
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: it's people borrow for home renovations. Interest rates are still high,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: even though they've come down a little. Even still, people
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: are less likely to invest in renovating a house when
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: interest rates are high.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: I looked at potentially moving out of the country and
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: it's just never fees the.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Ball does that makes sense for? And what and what?
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: What?
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: Where the hell would you move?
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: No, it does. It's not better anywhere. It's not better
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: in Canada. It's I don't know if it's I don't know.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's better in Australia. I mean no, yeah,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: it's not better.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: The thing this is just like a thing that that
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: these like that people are just like, I'm gonna move
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: to this other country and it's like, but those other
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: countries are not better, but they don't. They don't believe
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that they are certain that Canada is better, or the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: UK is better, or Europe is better, or Australia or
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: New Zealand. But none of them are like I'm gonna
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: go to Honduras. Like nobody says I'm gonna go to
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Nigeria and start a company there. I mean, maybe there
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: are opportunities there, but they're not thinking that. They're usually
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: thinking about Europe or Canada.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, let's let's I feel like this is
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: just we're just digging up a girl logic hole.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, Well, I think most of the people who
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: go on and show are women. I think so. I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: didn't look into the numbers. I could be wrong, but
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: from just like Lindsay listens to this stuff in the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: background while she's doing other things, and I'll always hear
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: a woman on there. So I think it's mostly women.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: And it makes sense because like I think women are
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: in a lot of debt right now collectively because of
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: college and just like they're spending habits and their I
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: don't just the way that they deal with credit and stuff, like,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: they're more they're probably more likely to be in trouble,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: uh than than men or at least seek help from men.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: So but anyway, let's let's keep.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: Going else it has to be better anywhere else, anywhere else,
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: anywhere else.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: No, we'll be moving to Sub Saharan Africa.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Probably not said anywhere almost anywhere. Oh okay, pushing the
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: goal post a little bit, just a smitch.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, where is it better for you? Salon owner, business owner?
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Salon owner, business owner.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I have an economy that's doing pretty well.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Here's the thought. Here's a thought. Don't mutter and act
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: like a crazy person with your clients unless they're into
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: that and they specifically pay for it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: She says that her clients are happy with her, so, like,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think that her tendency to talk to herself
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: is a problem. I think that's why she jokingly said, like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: my clients are as crazy as me. I think it's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: because they're saying She's essentially saying, they tolerate this and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that's fine and they're fine with it. So okay, I mean,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: like an eccentric hair salon person, I think that's like
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: fairly common.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: All right, Okay, yeah, so I did to answer your question.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: According to Grock, based on an analysis of available data
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: from episode counts, fan discussions, and content patterns across three
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: hundred and one episodes spanning twenty twenty three to November
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. The percentage of female guests on Caleb
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Hammer's Financial Audit is approximately seventy percent. This is an
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: estimate derived from community to observations on redd at an X,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: where friends frequently note a strong skew towards female guests,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: often describing the show as mostly women or ninety five
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: percent women. Okay, so we can get into the apparent
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: like groc has offered us a rationale why it's mostly women.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: So basically this is like the whatever podcast except for
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: taxes or finances for debt.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: For debt financial advice. Yeah, here's the.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Breakdown and reasoning. Total episodes all right, eighty percent guest
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: formats eighty percent, solo guests one person audited, fifteen percent,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: couples mixed gender counting one femle and one female, five
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: groups or other for example, siblings rare, all male female pairs.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Approximate number of episodes solo female sixty percent, solo male
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: twenty percent. Okay, uh okay, So this is the Reddit
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: consensus on why he's always targeting women. I'm guessing that
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: the phrase targeting women is likely to come up on
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Reddit threads like of all the guests, who's the best
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: in the best financial shape and the average financial audit
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: experience highlight that most of the guests I've seen are
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: women with train wreck finances. Oh this must have come
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: from one of the broreddits with user setting examples like
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: financial abuse, financial abuse victims, or insane Women episodes. As
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: the norm, no thread disputes the female majority. Instead, they
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: reinforce it financial abuse victims. And I'm curious do they
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: mean financial like the women of the financial abuse.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Like the women are claiming to be financially abused? Yeah, probably,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Like in this case, you know this, I'm looking at
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: my notes. The boyfriend pays for her rent and you utilities.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: In this in this video, yeah.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: She he pays for her rent and utilities.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's not like for what yeah? But but but
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: but again, like if we're looking at okay, so this
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: could be the exception in terms of it counting towards
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: financial abuse. Yes, it sounds like he's the one being
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: financially abused if if that's a thing. But what I'm saying,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: is is it possible that the where this information is
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: being retrieved from by Rock, the people retrieving it do
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: not consider it abuse when the man is the target,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Like if he's saying I will I will pay for
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: your rent and utilities, or there's an offer or some
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: kind of deal struck up where the man says, I'll
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: pay for your stuff, and we could say, in some
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: context that would count as financial abuse, but maybe the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: people where they're getting this from don't see it that
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: way because it's a man and men, we just don't
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: see them as abused as victims. So it's possible that
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: this is definitely an example of that, but wouldn't be counted,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: see what I mean?
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Yeah, no, definitely. I'm just I'm probing that
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: a bit more. Shall we listen to some more?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, let's listen to more. He's going to go
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: into some countries that might be better for her, Like.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Poland, Poland's increasing, Poland's doing very well. But you
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: know what happened if you people in the salon, you
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: know what happens if you want to fire them.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Oftentimes, depending on what contracts.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: You're on, if you want to fire them, you still
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: have to actually keep them on for about a month
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: two months, depending on time.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Well, luckily my boyfriend doesn't agree with that.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Play your boyfriend who you're definitely not going to get
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: married to and are not connected to in any way whatsoever.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: So okay, Yeah, so he likes living here.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: I mean it sounds like he has his own business, right,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Yes he does.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So okay. So she wants to leave, but her boyfriend
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: does not. Okay, probably because her boyfriend knows that this
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: is this country is their best shot. This is the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: best one, despite your complaints. Sorry, and so he's like
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: trying to be practical. I guess let me look at
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: my notes to see if it does anything after this
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: now is a bit more at seven thirty. Yeah, we're
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: getting to the next time code already. So he's kind
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: of like our buttressed against each other. Is that the word? Yeah?
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Why would he want to leave?
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: I understand that's where the his logic and my logic
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: sometimes don't always nix.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Now, I'm concerned we can blame economic conditions for certain things,
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: but you went to blame in the election.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of things.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Law.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: That is just someone who does not take any kind
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: of accountability or at least any kind of objective intake
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: of information about the economy, kind of if you want
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: to go straight politics about it. There's all there are
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: certain things if if the if he made it illegal
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: to renovate houses, yes, we could blame that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just pausing it there for the banana. Don't know
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: if you want to say anything, or if I just
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: play some more. This goes let me just look at
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: my notes again. Yeah, so another fifty seconds, forty forty
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: something seconds to keep going.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, another forty seconds.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Part of it is that they a lot of places
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: are worried about things going into recession.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Yes, and that would happen in the if there was
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: the other the station too.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: Yes, and so they a lot of stuff comes to
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: a complete halt. It doesn't even just slow down, like
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: eighty percent of the work disappeared exactly.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: And that's not the last election though. That is interest
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: rates being high.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: That's the purpose of interest rates being high to cool
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: the economy, bring down inflation.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And when you cool the economy, you bring it down.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: And you usually when interest rates are this high compared
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: to you know, the average of interest rates in the
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: past decade, or so when they're this high, statistically, a
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: recession follows.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: So it's about one at all.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: And I'm not jerking off the president. I don't give
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: a about that. But when you're going and you're blaming
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: something on something like that instead of actual, you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: objective information, it's the thing.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: That makes it together. It's a cope because so many
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: people stop, so many of the businesses that he was
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: doing work with and contracting with.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Cop maybe they picked out their businesses as well.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: They complete all right, it's a cope.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: That's kind of like the takeaway.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I think she hasn't even she hasn't even really buttressed
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: the coke with any deep in like like, could you
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: make an attempt to explain it that. I don't think
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: she does, no, never, So she just basically just says, oh,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: it's the election.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: She wants it to be the she wants it to
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: be the election. She wants it to be the fault
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: of the Orange Man, because I well, I don't really know.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a step too. It's just
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: blame the Orange man and then that's it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But the thing is that she he probed that
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: and she said, no, I would it would be the
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: same with Kamala Is she's just not willing to admit or.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: She doesn't she doesn't. Yeah, that's it. That's this is
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: cognitive dissonance. It's cope. It's like you said, it's a
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: cope because if you know that, it wouldn't have mattered,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you know, either way, and that there are other people
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that are living in the same planet that are going
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: through the same thing and they're not having this problem,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: So like what you know, Like it's like right in
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the beginning, he said, so are you saying that because
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: an election happened all of a sudden, you had a
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: loan and a high interest rate and you know, like
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: in all these problems, or did you already have these
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: problems and now you're just trying to figure out something
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: external to point the finger at. And that's what you chose.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: And you would have been in this situation no matter what,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: because ultimately a president doesn't affect your debt. So you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: it's I don't it's a cope. It's all. It is
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: just cope. Probably she had other people in her ear
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: telling her that this is the case. I don't know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: maybe some of her customers. Yeah, all right, So this
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: is the last time, Cote, I have here.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: Something you Oh, when you're trying to sublet, your entire
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: business is subletting.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: This is not great.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: The goal is to purchase the building. The current building
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: owner is actually retired.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you need money, we do, because retired person
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: doesn't mean they're going to give it away for free.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: That's actually, if you're on the show, you're not doing well.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: And if the boyfriend's money has dried up due to
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: the last election, then good luck.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: It is starting to pick back up a little.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: It's just a lot of catch up.
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: The catching up.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, he did a lot of work to get
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: caught up.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I just want to. I just want to.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: So it's so things are improving.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Okay before the boyfriend.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or the boyfriend So I guess.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: He'll be able to fund her projects. Yay. I'm guessing
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: that Caleb probably never mentions that like this doesn't look
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: doesn't even this doesn't even point out that he's funding her.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: He's funding her rent her utilities. And if she's talking
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: about how his job picking up is going to benefit
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: her business, this, Caleb doesn't say, wow, he's uh, that's interesting.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Ever point out that the boyfriend is underwriting.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: A lot of Yeah, that's what I'm doing right.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Now, investment. Yeah, I think that's that's definitely. Oh okay
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: he does. We just need a time code.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, what is this? Oh oh, come on, give
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: it to me, give it to me. Okay, yeah, twenty
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: four minutes. So can we listen to this whole thing already? Yeah,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: we did with the cope bit. Okay, yeah, okah, twenty
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: four minutes. She talks about her boyfriend. We'll go right here.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: People are figuring out a way. I can't speak on.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I don't own a salon, but to suggest that you
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: can't puck off. So he pays all.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: The rent utilities, He pays the right utilities for the shop. No,
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: he hasn't missed it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Goodness, why are you? Are you even dating him to
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: date him? Or are you businessing him?
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: No?
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: Absolutely dating him to date him. I don't know what
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: I would do in life without him.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Oh we're going to sell them, probably have no money
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and be homeless. That's why she's I don't know what
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I would do without him. Yeah, because he pays for everything.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's well, No, that's what it
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: sounds like. That's it building for.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: That discussion hasn't entirely been had yet because they are
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: not all there yet.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: He's not ready to sell it yet.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: Oh but that was his deciding factor in picking us
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: to take the space.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Does he know how you are?
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: No, they get their rent texts on time, so all
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: of a sudden.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: That they don't need to know only building out full.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Started at twenty, ended up going to thirty and then
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: forty to fifty.
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: What the soul?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it's going to be up with to seventy.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: She started at twenty one to seventy. Yeah, see that's you.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: That's not that's actually come on, terriffs didn't move it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Okay. So she's still trying to say it's tariffs, all right. Yeah,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: So this isn't the part where she talks about her boyfriend. Okay.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: So Caleb does point out that the boyfriend is underwriting
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of her costs and potential investments, and for example,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: he mentions the boyfriend usually pays the rent to utilities
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: for the salon space too, which leaves some financial burden
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: from her. Caleb also knows that they handle their financials separately,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: and that the boyfriend coverors certain expenses like rent, phone bill,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: car insurance, while she uses credit cards for the salon
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: build out. Moreover, is the salon? Should she be investing
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: that much money in the salon? Moreover, Caleb highlights the
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: house they live in is paid off by the boyfriend,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: which means she gets sucked. She is subsidized in terms
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: of housing as well. This financial support from the boyfriend
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: is brought up a multiple time to emphasize how much
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: she relies on him financially, despite her claims about economic hardships.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: But is it brought up as a potential source of
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, because they're not living together and in fact,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: the relationship seems to be progressing backwards, So what is
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: he paying for? And presumably the kids aren't his?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: No, they're not. No, because in the beginning they said
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the dad is not in the picture. So she's this
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: is this is another man's kids. He's a mess. Yeah,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: she's a mess.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Do you want me to play more? There's a little
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: bit more in this one. I think, what the.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Are you talking about?
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: The building measurements that we got, the building measurements that
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: we got Originally we had built a whole business playing
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: our fourteen hundred.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Then utilities I'm going to cast sixteen.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Utilities are actually only about two fifty right now if.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: It stays fifty, So once it goes up, okay, seventeen
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: fifty tune, So sixty three thousand is your entire cost
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: of that than the seventy thousand build out?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Yea, And then I'm sorry they're just doing now mm hmmm,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I'm going to find another time code.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Okay. So the yes the situation is describing the document
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: could be potentially framed as abusive, particularly in a financial
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: and emotional context. The woman is in significant debts, struggling
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: with a finding failing business, and heavily reliant on a
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: systems program assistance programs while spending on non essential items
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: like competitive cheer activities for herself that we haven't covered yet.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: She's got a cheerleader competitive cheerleader, but doesn't make any
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: money at it, and apparently it's extremely expensive.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Something that she wants to do.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Okay. The financial advisor criticizes her for poor money management,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: lack of accountability, and making choices that negatively impact her
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: family's well being. Also mentioned of conflict and control issues.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Within a relationship. Okay, I'm gonna drill down on that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: And uh, Richard says, she's on food stamps too, so
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: he's on snap for now, not anymore. Let's play this
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: clip while you're drilling.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: Down, because you were them, the absolutely them, okay, like
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: I beat them out in.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Court one hundred.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Especially in a major city, we do have some. I
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: have to be this south, just.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Going back a little bit for the context.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Employed queen a businesswoman of the century on Time magazine.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: You can go get a job.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: The problem is one of my children is special needs,
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: and to get him to appointments.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: I party your low income. I know for understand, you
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: could have assistance. Were in a major city, we do,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: especially in a major blue city, we.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Do have some. I do have food stamps, and I
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: do get some child support.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Child support, daddy, how much comes in.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: From one of the dads. It's a two dads there are.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: I tried to do better.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: The second Oh my god, two different dudes and a boyfriend.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Holy shit.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: And the boyfriend pays for her and these two one
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: of the men is paying child support. Yes, okay, yeah,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: all right, let's let's hear what has she has?
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: Is he were them them? Absolutely them, one hundred percent them. Okay,
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: like I beat them out in court, one hundred percent them.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Well that's good, But you call yourself a wee. So
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: I'm struggling, I do.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Us. I mean, she's saying it was all him, it
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: was all him, but she had kids with him, a
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: kid at least, So you chose him. That's it. That's
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you chose him. You know, we have
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: really we really got to stop letting women say that
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: they were completely out of their mind and they had
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: no idea that this man was like a terrible father
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: or husband or boyfriend or whatever. And I mean this
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: is like assuming that you know that he was a
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: problem at all. But if he was, she chose to
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: reproduce with him. She chose that. She women, you chose
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: this that that we like, I don't know why, but
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to deal with that, you know, they don't.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: They just really struggle with it.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: But okay, I also have a little bit of a
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: victim complex little then throw out in my life.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: That's what everyone says.
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: I know. Uh, I like that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: That's good. I forgot about that one. Okay, let me
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: see there's a bit more thirty three.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't know how much child support is. It's
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: one hundred and I think it's one hundred.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: And forty eight a month a week.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank because that's much.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I'm fifty two divided by twelve, So we'll average it
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: out at.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: Six forty one and thirty three cents a month. Why
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: doesn't the other dad give money?
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: Job hopping? Uh huh, yep, there's a whole lot going
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: on in there.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: So the other have a steady job? Yeah, I wonder
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: why she's with the current boyfriend.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Huh yeah? Is that? Are you saying that tongue in cheek?
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I wonder why the other boyfriend's giving her money.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: When I do have child food stamps three and twenty
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: one per month.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's been they I'll put that towards the grocery.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: But they lowered the Yeah, yeah, it went lower because
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: I had a renewal.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: But the requirement, there's so much.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: That's your choice though some of it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't need to be doing this self and
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: playbook again. You're not trying to get on the cover
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: of Time magazine. What are we trying in woman power?
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I don't give about that choice job.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to have a job that I want.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, I got a super chat from Zarax who says
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: it's too soon to mention Alphax Beta Bucks. Nope, it's
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: never too soon, never too soon.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: No, I just I mean, after that series of disasters
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: and suddenly she has a partner who can reliably pay
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: her bills. Yeah, wow, I just.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: And then also there's just something that's just something is
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: rotten in Denmark if they were originally living together and
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: then somebody decided, no, we're going to live apart with
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: separate finances, although he still pays their bills, so go figure.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that is quite a monthly cost just
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: to get something to separate like that, if you think
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: about it. Okay, let's keep going.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Is it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Are we almost done with this one?
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, we're almost done with this one. Okay, I got
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: one more minute, thirty six minutes to thirty seven. So
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: unless there's something that Richard Beierre wants us to respond to.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: Good boss, exactly, you are failing them by making a
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: thousand hours a month because you're trying to build your business.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: That is the failure, Like that is your choice. Yes, yeah,
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: you will find a lot of bosses, a lot of businesses.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: The business that.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: My family has worked for, you know, my business specifically,
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: if anyone has.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: It is of course they should go deal with it.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: That is what would happen. You can find jobs.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: Not every job is some massive corporate overlord, bank teller, whatever.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: You would be surprised at how many there are.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: And no, of course there are. I'm not saying that too.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: But you live in a major metro area of the
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: United States. I'm not you saying you can't get a
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: job and you're gonna allow yourself to just make a
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: thousand hours a month while having two kids is unacceptable.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: I didn't say I can't get a job.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: They go get a job.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, that was the last time code that I have.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: But they he ends up helping her put something together.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: But she is getting government support, which she's complaining is
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: like being reduced, like the amount of food stamps she's
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: getting because she doesn't really need them. She could get
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: a job, she could work something out. I think that
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: she's trying to like realize some dream of owning a
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: hair salon and having two kids from two different fathers
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and a boyfriend that doesn't live with her but pays
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: for all of her stuff. That's and she's in debt.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Alison, I don't know if you wanted to
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: say anything, but that was the last time stamp that
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I have here unless you want me to.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, while I was looking, Apparently it's the accusations of
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: financial abuse are about as you expect for the most part.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: On Reddit, they are talking about women being abused. Apparently, yes,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: it's about eighty five percent of the time. Somehow, even
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: though the women are the ones in this financial distress,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: they are the ones who've been subject to abuse according
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: to them. Of course, in many cases when they're solo,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're the only person being talked about. And
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: let's see, so the woman is the victim according to
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: the Reddit financial abuse framework eighty five percent of the time.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: The husband or husband is fifteen to twenty percent of
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: the time. And apparently this is when the women is
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: identified as a potential abuser. They it's softened. So it
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: seemed more as enabling is over abuse. Okay, so when okay?
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Where solo female audits frequently involve post divorce or ex
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: partner abuse stories, while couples Highlight episode Male Highlight, Male control. However,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: when women are abusers, it's typically downplayed or tied to
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: enabling behaviors rather than outright malice. All right, And also
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Caleb Hammer is being accused of not being like, not
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: being conciliatory enough to the narrative around women being subject
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: to financial abuse. But that's why I'm asking this, Like,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: is this situation financial abuse? I mean, if we reverse.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: The sex, it could be considered it technically, but I
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: don't think Reddit would consider it financial course. Yeah, so
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: that's just it's just a man paying for a woman's things.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: It's just patriarchy backfiring or something. If there's any sympathy
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: at all. Otherwise it's this is how you girl boss.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: You get men to pay for your things, and you
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: get your business, and you get your child child a
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: support and you get your snap.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Okay. So I basically just flat out and said, Grok, okay,
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: analyze what's going on with this Reddit community. That's you know,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's Reddit, but it is a
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: at the center of cultural commentary. So that and I
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: asked Grok, if there is any inconsistency, Yeah, we need
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: to build I asked if there is any inconsistency, so
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: basically double standard in how Reddit views financial abuse when
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: we're talking about women versus men. And yes, the reddit
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: r Caleb Hammer framework for analyzing financial abuse is strongly
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: biased against recognizing male victims. And this bias is both
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: structural and how discussions are framed and cultural and how
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: evidence is interpreted. The same patterns that emerge in episode narratives,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: fan commentary, and Hammer's probing consistently downplay, dismissed, or re
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: frame male victimization while amplifying female victimization, even when the
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: underlying behaviors are identical. Below is a rigorous, evidence based
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: breakdown using the exact same analytical framework the subreddit uses. Okay,
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: all right, so if we just reverse the genders, what
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: they consider to be a skew to towards male abusers
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: immediately becomes a skew towards female abusers. Well, so, in
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: other words, it it flips them who is who was
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: an abuser becomes a victim and who was a victim
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: becomes the abuser. I should qualify, I should actually carefully
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: qualify that and make sure that's true. But preliminarily that's true,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: all right, So tone and framing. Male victims are blamed
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: or erase. The subreddit uses three reoccurring lenses to interpret
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: abuse when applied to men. All three neutralize or reverse victimhood.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Control equals abuse applied to female victim wife monitors spending
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: yields gas lighting isolation applied to male victim husband monitors
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: spending provider stress necessary, male control justified. Hmm, okay, all right,
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: but that's okay.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: I think we're I think.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: We're in a little bit in the weeds here, so
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: I have to work with this a little bit more
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: to get a clear answer, and maybe we should go
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: to the next time code.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go to the next video. Then
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: that was it for that one. Okay, all right, this
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: is a couple. You're gonna love the way these people look.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: And their claim is that, well, uh, it's the same claim. Actually,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: they live in a fascist state, so they can't get
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know, they're struggling because of something. All right,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: here we go.
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: Hi, I'm Savannah Grayson. I'm twenty seven years old.
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: Hey I'm Steve. I'm twenty eight. We live in Arlington, Texas,
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: and this is financial audit.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: Thanks for coming down to Austin guys. I appreciate it, Savannah,
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: you're the one in front of me.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're welcome. What do you do for a living?
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: I'm currently unemployed.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Great job. And what do you do?
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: I'm a senior systems administrator.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, like dig them stash guys.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Mm it was gonna be starting your own brewery.
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: Okay, I want to open a game store.
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: He is talking about your hitster message.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: I get it, but you're not off the market and
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: hipster mustache stuck in twenty ten and Pierson, So I
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: got the full combination and you got.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: We're definitely hitting the checks on the checklist. Okay, So
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: let me see here, uh fifty three. So she doesn't
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: have a job and he has like a middle management
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: thing going on. That's what it sounds like. Systems administrator.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a you know, cubicle thing.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: So okay, here we go, Here we go. This is
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: the real Reddit quote paraphrase from multiple threads. If a
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: guy he lets his wife spend like that, he's not
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: a victim, He's an enabler. Same behavior in reverse. She
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: was trapped in a controlling marriage. Yeah, yeah, so there
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: is a significant double standard. I think even Caleb has
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: apparently a double standard too, that he actually refers to
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: financial abuse with his female guests but not necessarily with
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: his male guests. All right, So example, a man in
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: a couple's audit reveals his wife maxed out joint credit
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: cards on luxury bags without telling him, Hammer, you need
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: to communicate better a woman in the same scenario, Hammer,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: this is coercive of control. You're being financially abused. So
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: even though he's applying the sort of gendered lens which
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: picks up female victimhood far more frequently the male victimhood,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: the Reddit feminists are still incis that I don't know,
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: he's not bringing out his flamethrower and insiderating the man
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: and swooping in and sending the woman into I don't
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: who knows like his Caleb's funded shelter for financially abused women.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: So but you know that's uh. But yeah, there definitely
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: is a bias here when it comes to recognizing financial abuse.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Like I said, like I knew that they wouldn't.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people wouldn't see a
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: man paying for a woman's lifestyle to be financial abuse,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: because that's what effect he's doing so.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yet the reverse would be suspectable.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: It would be terrible. It would be terrible. Yeah, it
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: would be they'd be trying to make it illegal.
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: So Okay, turned eighteen, she decided to don't live with
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: some other family members. My ten year old sister is
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: currently about to be placed with her mom.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: Okay, interesting that she wasn't already, But I get it.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Life's complicated, I get it.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: So all right, I was. I was trying to this
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: is not the time code, but for reason would let
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: me pick the time code. So this is it right here.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: What are we talking about today, guys? What are we
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: talking about? What's going on?
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: We're we really want to get the out of his country.
• 55:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and he'd really like to move out of the
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: United States. That was a big thing that we were
• 55:16
  Speaker 8: in alignment.
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: On where we have a few options that we talked about, like.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: New Zealand or Chief one that will be a failed one,
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: that'll be an extra failed one.
• 55:27
  Speaker 11: Germany, Germany, Northern European countries like Denmark, Switzerland, Netherlands.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Guys, anybody from the Netherlands or Switzerland or Denmark there
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: at once. This couple that are trying to escape the
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: evil fascist Nazi America, because that's what they're the mustache.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Just look at the mustache and the glasses and the
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: septum piercing and I think you guys know. Zaryanks gives
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: us two dollars and says, I initially thought that was
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Steve's on by the way for super chows. Richard b
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Are sent in a song requests I.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Know that was an accident. He thought we were doing
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: something on Sunday, but then I was just flailing ill. Sorry, guys.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: We had a sudden blizzard, which usually isn't a problem
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: for Canadians except when it's in fall and you haven't
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: changed switched your tires to your snow tires, and we
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: ended up being stranded in a town between our home
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: and the city that we go to to get some
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: of the items that we need, and uh yeah, and
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: it's just because you know, the fall is an interesting
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: time in Canada, especially where we are, because you sort
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: of have to guess when you need to switch from
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: your summer tires to your winter tires. And you do
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: need winter tires because conditions, the road conditions are pretty harsh,
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: and the problem is if you guess too soon, then
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: you risk wearing out your winter tires quickly, and if
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: you guess too late, you risk getting stranded somewhere when
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: it just the winter switch just decides to get flipped.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: And the winter switch just decided to get flipped and
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: we got stranded. So that was a little bit complicated.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: It took a couple of days to resolve because the
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: roads were so bad. We actually had to change We
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: had to get a new set of winter tires, which
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: is okay, our old sets already getting pretty old, so
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: it was eventually we're gonna have to get it anyway,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: but man, that was that was That was a lot
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: of time and then a lot of stress and also
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: ended up getting a little bit ill because we were
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: stuck in the winter. And so yeah, there's been a
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: it's been a couple of days of of trying to
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: get back into things for me. But anyway, that's that's
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: why we didn't do anything on Sunday, and Richard sent
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: in a song request to a show that didn't happen,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: So eventually we will have to get that song request
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Black Betty. It's actually a song I like.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 57:58
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  Speaker 3: the Badger dot com slash just the tip do it like, yeah,
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: because it's it's lonely in there, make it less lonely.
• 58:09
  Speaker 11: All right, let's go all right, Okay, she's also we've
• 58:14
  Speaker 11: all sa lie just because of the political climate.
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: You know, we don't think things are going great.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Year's going to the right as well.
• 58:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the whole world is World.
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: Reforms about to just smash and win the next UK election.
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: I don't know, it'll you.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Know what the world is going, right, it's because people
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: they want to actually be able to survive. I mean,
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: let's face it, Like the the the reality is that
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: the left doesn't seem to like humanity nor want it
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: to continue to exist. I mean that's that's my impression.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Common sense, common sense had to come at some point.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I mean Europe, Like, the truth is, Europe got absolutely
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: demolished by migrants and uh and I'm not talking legal ones.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about just people that got on a boat
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: and they're just like living in for star hotels and
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: they're not working, and they're just taking like whatever social
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: programs they have, and they're the Europe is absolutely destroyed
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: and demoralized and the UK is not much better, and
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Australia is going through it. So the citizenry are like, Okay,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: that's enough, we're gonna, we're we're we're gonna, you know,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: actually like try to do something about it. And that
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: means well, I mean, like, if you've gone this far left,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: anything that goes against it looks hard, right, but it
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: probably isn't because it just looks that way. So yeah,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: they're just saying, all right, we're done playing. It's just
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: like what happened in America, you know, and and I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and again, these people are kind of I don't know,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: maybe they're terminally online or on Reddit or on TV
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: or watching TV or something, but they are. There is
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: no like if they I don't know where they're hoping
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: to go, but there is no place what they're looking
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: for because people are done with the lefts games. Basically,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: they're just done with it and they're ready for something
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: that looks like normal. So they're voting accordingly, and that's
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: basically all it is. They just don't they just they're
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: just tired of killing themselves. And yeah, I mean it's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: not that hard, like it's just you know, it's a correction.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: That's it. I wouldn't even say enough of a correction
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: in many cases, but we'll see. But yeah, I mean,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I think these people are just again, they're sort of
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: emotionally reacting to something. And I wonder if the woman
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: is actually having more effect than the man in this decision.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I think he's because I think that he's kind of
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: going along with her whims and so if she says, oh,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: oh mg, I'm scared, I don't I can't kill my
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: babies anymore. I'm gonna lose all my free stuff. I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: don't have a job, I don't want to work whatever.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: And he's like, okay, honey, well what do we do.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: We have to escape. I'm gonna I'm gonna save you
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: from this. We're gonna go somewhere. I think New Zealand
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: is nice. That's where they shot Lord of the Rings
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: without knowing. New Zealand's cost of living is pretty high.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: It's expensive to live there, or Australia. I think I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: remember because when we were there in Australia and we
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: hung out with Bearing, I think that Sugar Tits and
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: I sat down, we were just hanging out, and she
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: said that, yeah, the cost of living in Australia is
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: really high, and it's got something to do with where
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: they are and the fact that it's like an island continent.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, so because they have to they have
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: to import a lot. But anyway, I'm just saying cost
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: of living is high in those places. Are not exactly
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: like that kind of upwardly mobile. They want to avoid problems.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: They I don't know if they want to go to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Germany or France or the Netherlands.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: No, but it's just like this vague, Oh, we want
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: to get away from the political landscape of where we are.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know. This is just honestly, it's it.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: I don't see any of the ethical virtues that I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: used to see in like liberal liberalism or or the left.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: It's just basically squeezing the little guy and making excuses
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: for massive amounts of control and government spending. And it's like, yes,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: of course that's going to destroy economies. And I don't
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: even think that people who are like, let's please, can
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: we stop doing that are necessarily really wreck really are
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: what I would get consider conservative. And again I don't
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: mean that as like, oh, I'm afraid to be titled conservative.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: I'm saying that in a completely neutral conservative have these
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: sets of values, and then you have these other sets
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: of values that tend to be liberal. And these are
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: two sets of values that have their positives and their negatives.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: It's like two types of class in a in a
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: like a D and D setting, you got your tank
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: and you got your healer class, and one isn't better
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: and one isn't worse. They just have different functions. And
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: it's like what we term the left now does not
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: seem to have any function except for justifying government spending,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: justifying government control, justifying corporate and government collusion, and justifying
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: the putting all of the consequences of all of that
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: on men, right and and blaming men. It's it doesn't
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: It's like I see that as being well, it's just
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: evil anyway. Yeah, okay, let's keep going.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: Why do you know everyone, everyone on like in the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: United States and whatnot, calls her a fascist, right, I know,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that, you know what you.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Know, Like the people don't even know what's going on
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: in other parts of the world. They just want to
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: go there. That's what I'm saying. They're very like naive,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: like they they would probably be like, oh, it wouldn't
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: be cool to live in Japan. And Japan meanwhile just
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: like elected, like you know, somebody who like some extremely
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: like right wing woman to be prime minister or president
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: whatever they have there, and to the point where like
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: you know, Woki's are loving losing their ship. So yeah,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: and because because again, Japan was starting to experience a
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: migrant problem, like where they were getting all these immigrants,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: and Japan was like, no, we're not losing our identity
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: over this, so they elected somebody to fix that problem
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: It's gonna likely win in France as well.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: You know, you know what Italy did in World War Two?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Right? Well?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, yeah, I know, I don't.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: Know why we're talking about one hundred years ago, but okay, yeah,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: but lord, look.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Man, you're asking normies to talk about history, and there's
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: only one thing in history that people can talk about.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: World War Two is everybody's favorite topic. All right, let
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: me see what other time codes I have here? Seventy ten. Oh,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: there's still a little bit more on this one.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: So okay, okay, And how's this productive to you guys?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: Because you're making a United States income right now?
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Financially higher.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 8: Well, I wrote that with him being in it, that
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 8: he could get a job.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: The tech sector is not even close to what the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: United States is by far.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 11: Just based on like research and my I know, my
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 11: career field is in high demand in a lot of
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 11: different places.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: Certainly, but even the United States I t of where
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: we have a booming.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Tech sector, it's not easy to get hired. And at
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: this exact.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: Moment, so that seems like a bit of overconfidence.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Sure, all right, So I think he's trying to like
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: help them understand that things like with what they what, well,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: only one of them has a job with what this
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: guy does, the US is the best place still for
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: him to get a job in it. And I mean
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably true because like we still have
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: you know, good economy in that regard, I guess. So okay,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: So then we got the relationship dynamics and accountability that
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: sounds intriguing.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 7: I feel like I feel like you could like you
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 7: could do more.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he has sort of step.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: Up a part of the reason that we So you're
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: upset about hurt getting in a job walking me through it.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we've definitely had whenever we have arguments
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 11: about our financial situation. It always, you know, boils down to,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 11: well X y Z would be better if you.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: Had a job and an income.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 11: And yeah, I mean I feel like you don't like
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 11: put in enough effort. I feel like I feel like
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 11: you could, like you could do more, Like you know,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 11: you sleep in a lot, and you're I mean, I'm cooking, clean,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 11: taking care of the animals, watering the plants.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: He's watering the plants.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: What the hell did you do?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: But she sleeps in apparently, Like I don't know, I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: thought that if well, again, you know, if they had
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: an arrangement where she did all the house stuff, I
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: could see that as at least more agreeable. But it
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: sounds like according to him, he does everything. He does
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: the whole shebang.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I watered my plants. You don't water my plants.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Your plants.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I lost my awards. I'd give one, but
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: I can't find them right now.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I lost my awards. Okay, okay, sorry, I continue.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 11: I mean that's I mean, the plants is just one thing,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 11: but like I still like contribute in every area on
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 11: top of working. And then I just you know, I mean,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 11: I am worried that you're taking advantage me a little bit,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 11: you know, but like.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some serious that pauses, there's a lot of
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of wheels moving in that pause.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a swollen, a swollen.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: And it's not actually funny because this guy is obvious,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: like he's obviously not in, he doesn't have a.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: He's not well.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: I honestly, this isn't this isn't unusual for men. He's
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: probably a little scared of her mm hmm. And and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: it does sound like she's taking advantage of him. So
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: I wonder what happens.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: I wonder what what what?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: What? What We're about to see? How is this going
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: to be dealt with? Because this does sound like it's
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: it's not just financial abuse. Basically, he's she's just taking
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: advantage of him. And I mean, I guess you could
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: say the genesis of that is probably I mean, if
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: you look at the differential in looks, although again women
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: can emulate a lot with makeup, but you know, maybe
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: maybe she feels like she she's the table and he
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: has to bring something to it. And if that was reversed,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: the genders were reversed, we would recognize that as a
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: form of abuse and entitlement. But okay, let's see what
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Let's see what happens.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: I'm curious, all right, I got.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: A super child. I got a super chowd great Indoors
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: gives us five dollars and says this morning, I was
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: listening to Daspara's review of the pilot episode of All's
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Fair and it made me wonder, did mra successfully infiltrate
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Hollywood and greenlit this show to completely expose the Hollywood elite,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: feminism and the divorce industry of the entire world, because
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: it sure comes across that way. Well, I have not
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: seen that show or the Dasparu review of it. I
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: think I'll have to check it out.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Is I have heard about that. I think it's like
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: I think it has I think it's about a bunch
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: of women. Actually, let me see if I can.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: You think Kim Kardashian in that show. I think I've
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: seen an ad for it, like on my front page
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: of my Amazon firestick, Like, but I didn't watch it.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I just you know, you turn on your firestick and
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: you're like on your TV or Google TV or Apple
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: TV or whatever, and it has like all these streaming
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: services and like whatever's out and I think that was
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: like prominently featured. I did. I started watching The Gamo
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: del Toro Frankenstein.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: Ok Everyone's Okay is a twenty twenty five American legal
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: drama series created by Okay Blah blah blah blah blah.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: The theirm specialized in representing high profile female clients and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: messi's high stakes divorce cases, often involving themes of betrayal, revenge,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: and empowerment in glossy, over the top world of extreme
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: wealth and cut through legal battles. The core plot follows
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Alura and her team, including partners like Liberty, Ronson and
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: portray others portrayed by people, as they navigate lucrative cases
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: for wronged women against powerful men while dealing with personal dramas.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: A major storyline involves Allura's on crumbling marriage to her
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: husband Chase, leading to her divorce, preceding fertility struggles and
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: a sisterhood dynamic where the firm rallies for collective payback
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: that does not send, that does not really sound like
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: men's rights active as vibes you know what.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: We might be at the point, or at least like
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: with our media as apparently it's on Hulu, who, by
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: the way, is owned by Disney. Hulu is essentially the
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: R rated Disney streaming service that doesn't have the Disney
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: name attached to it, although the lines there are blurry anyways.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: But it could be to the point now where they
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: could show or at least the you know, the folks
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: on our streaming services that create that entertainment, or at
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: the point now where they can explicitly show evil women
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: doing evil things and the viewers will be expected to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: simply see it as empowering and not evil at all.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: So just consider that, because that's not a new thing either.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Like I remember I watched do you guys remember the
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: TV show True Blood that was on HBO, And it
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: was like like adult like vampires and love triangles and
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, or The Boys, or like any number
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: of these other shows that have like morally gray but
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: really kind of evil characters and they're all like screwing
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: each other over and blackmailing each other and doing all
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: this backbiting and and and it's and they're the heroes
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: and we're supposed to root for them. I think that
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: this is probably just that. So like if you watch
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: all's fair. I would bet that even if you watched
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: it and said, wow, this is like exposing how evil
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: women can be, the average person that watches it may
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: not see it that way at all. They might simply
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: see the opposite, and and that would be the intent
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: of the people who made it, like they I think
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: that we've normalized things to that point where when we
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: see it, we kind of expect it. So that's what
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: that would be my guess. I mean, you know, I
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: know that you guys are spergs and you're gonna spurg
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: out and see the spurgy things. But remember, normal people
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: see what they've been programmed to see, so you're not
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to convince them, you know, like actually
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: you're rooting for the wrong person. Aha, and they're like no,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not. So just just remember that, Just remember that
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: that what you see is not necessarily what was put
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: out there, And even if it was really obvious, it
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: might still get the opposite of the effect, only because
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: of how how demoralized, how normalized this kind of like
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: evil is, so that people see the evil and they
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, are fine with it, So well,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: apparently they're.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Not, all right.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: YouTuber Disparu. Disperu delivers a scathing, it ironically enthusiastic takedown
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: to the Ryan Murphy created Hulu pilot, framing it is
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: an unintentional masterpiece of self parody. He argues the episode
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: about a woman only divorce firm led by persons that
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: breaks from a patriarchal setup to extract massive settlements from
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: innocent tech billionaire husbands, is not just poorly executed, but
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: horrifically evil, and it's unswaar promotion of greed, amorality and
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: hypocritical girl boss feminism. Disparu calls Disney calls it Disney's funniest,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: most evil show, the most honest, best comedy of the
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: year that accidentally exposes the very vices that glorifies, earning
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: its dismal zero to six percent Rotten Tomatoes score by
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: hitting too close to home. So I would say that
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: zero to one percent or zero to six percent and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: Rotten Tomatoes means that this has roundly been rejected.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Well, it looks like that was what the intention was.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Like they were trying to make it a girl Boss
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: affair and they just had the women being openly evil,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: And I mean, according to Final Midnight In the chat,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: he says, I've seen it reported that all of the
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: tweets on the show are by women commenting on the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: outfits the characters are wearing. This show has been targeted
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: at a very particular demographic. So yeah, I mean, that's
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. How many people of the people that
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: it was targeting are going to see it? Like that?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Who even watched it? And how many of them are
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: going to see it? You know, like as Hulu intended
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: to like show it. It's a bit of a scary
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: thought because it it you you end up asking yourself like, okay,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: so how evil are we at this point? How okay
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: are we with evil right now?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 9: Well?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: It may have backfired, it may have okay. Plot and
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: writing Dispairy mocks the contrived narrative as a cavalcade of
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: wigs screeching, and so this is this is This is
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: the analysis of all's fair screeching and tacky, tasteless television
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: where the firm uses blackmail, example stocking photos, and fabricated
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: dominatrix scandals to force quarter million dollar settlements in cases
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: of cheating wives demanding unearned luxury. He highlights plot holes
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: and absurd dialogue like empty threats. Having me in as
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: an enemy is very unwise and buzzword laden lines stepped
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: away from the patriarchy, calling the script incompetent and making
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: Tyler Perry projects look like Shakespeare. The best jokes, he says,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: arise unintentionally during serious moments, such as pigs rolling in
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: filth for an hour and a fetish blackmail scene, revealing
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: the show's obliviousness to legal or moral logic. The protagonists
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: are characters of pure evil again All's Fair Hulu's All's Fair.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: The protagonists are characters of pure evil and degenerate Haggs,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: who poses empowered saviors but are thieves and parasites exploiting
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: men they came to hate. Clients are entitled gold diggers
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: gas lit into viewing diamonds and wealth as abuse, while
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: husband's emerge as the episode's moral authorities and based figures
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: enforcing fair free nups. Desperu praises the rival lawyer, Sarah
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: Paulson's Carrington as the best character for her blunt honesty, example,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: calling the leads three skanks and the creeper investigator as
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: one of the gals, and their insatiable revenge scheme.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So I got a super chow from
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Winter for five dollars and he says, honey for the
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Badgers as usual, great shows lately, Thank you much, thank
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: you Winter, really appreciate it.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Well, well, I finally got Grock to spit out a
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: proper analysis, so we'll go through that. But at the ends,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: well of of how financial abuse is treated on this show,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: and it's fan community based on the gender of who
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: they think is doing the financial abuse the sexoph Yeah, I.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Figure that was more on this relationship.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, getting back to the show.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 7: Want to I want to trust you implicitly.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: When when we've talked about this at home, like you've
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 8: never you've never said that before.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 11: I mean, I mean maybe I wasn't direct enough about
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 11: about it, but I've been trying to communicate, you know, like, hey,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 11: you could put in more effort, like I I just
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 11: think that you could be doing more, and I feel
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 11: like there's definitely an imbalance like that.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 7: I'm I'm kind of doing everything.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: Only defense if her only defense to him saying I
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: pay the bills, I cook, I clean, I take care
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: of the animals, I water the plants, and her only
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: defense is but I water my plants. I think he's
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: got us. I think he's he's he is being taken
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: advantage of.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, right, and you know you're not even working.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: You know, remember when you said your your excess, who
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: were financially taking advantage of you?
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: Whoa whoa whoa.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: She Yeah, So the guy said that he had a
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: he has history of of girls taking advantage of him financially.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought it was. I thought it was she's
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: had history of men taking advantage of her financially.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let me, let's just confirm that. Keep going. But
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: I'll get I'll get that.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 11: And I feel like there's definitely an imbalance like that.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 11: I'm I'm kind of doing everything and you know you're
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 11: not even working.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: You know, remember when you said you're you're excess who
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: were financially taking Okay?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: Stop. In the show, the woman mentions that in her
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: past relationship she was the sole breadwinner, implies that her
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: exceses took financial advantage of her. This is discussed in
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: the context of her previous relationships and financial struggles. Man,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: on the other hand, does not mention having Oh, well,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: the likelihood that that's true is now is now moving
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: down to zero?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. That what's true?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: That she actually had exes that took financial advantage of her?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, do you really think that this.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: Behavior just suddenly switched like this out of the blue.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Okay, I'm probably I don't know, probably not.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing. This happens, and I actually.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: Really feel for that dude. I mean, he's a little
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: bit of a a he looks a little bit bug
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: man ish, but even bug men have feelings.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Bug men have feelings. Yes, they also if you they
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: also cry? Got them? Do they not bleed? All? Right?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: This isn't obviously officials couples therapy, but in setting similar
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: to this in couples therapy, that's where the real.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: Thing comes out.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: That people hold back from wanting the sane person because
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: they don't want to start a fight.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: They don't want to start an argument at home.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: You this is that dude is terrified. Yeah, and this
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: is actually really common for lake men that they are
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: afraid of confrontations with their female partners. This is this
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: is actually this is this is normal for men to
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: be scared of confrontations with their female partners. Or to
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: be nervous about them, or to have an increase in
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: in a general adrenaline. And I think cortisol at the
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: idea of a confrontation with their their female partners. That's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: really common, and I doubt, I highly doubt it's something
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: that's unique to this era. So probably this is something
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: that has had happened since the dawn of pair bonding
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: and the human race. And yeah, and in the context
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: of that, it really makes you wonder why most religions tell,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: most religions that are part of any kind of advanced
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: civilization or empire have this statement that women need to
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: submit or trust or listen to men specifically, they say that,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: and it's always like that. This is consistent with every
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: advanced empire, every advanced civilization that got past subsistence level survival.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 7: Okay, a safe place, And I try to be that
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 7: for you.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 11: You know, I want you to be able to come
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 11: to me with stuff and talk to me about things
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 11: and be open. And you know, I I feel like
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 11: I don't have the same opportunity. I feel like I
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 11: if I bring stuff up, like you get upset and
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 11: you get angry and.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: Tell me about that, tell me about how those conversations
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: go where she gets get she gets upset and angry.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just pausing there for that's a good place to pause.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: I'm wow, this is this is actually really topical. I
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: think we owe Richard Bierre an apology. Okay, but no, seriously,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: this was this was very well done.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 7: This was very well said.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Here's the time code, and that would have been great.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 10: Yea, but yeah, okay, Well, I'll just bring something up
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 10: and I end up having to comfort her at the
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 10: end of it, you know, because it's like she'll start saying,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 10: I'm such a like worthless partner.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 11: I'm you know, she says that about herself, and then
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 11: I have to be like, no, no, you're not, like I
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 11: have to.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: That's a way of evading responsibility, my dude, because then
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: it reframes it on. It reframes it on her emotional
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: response to the problems that you're bringing up, and then
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: it becomes all about her emotional response, and then the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: problems disappear, right, they become not important, and you can't
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: bring them up again because then she'll have this breakdown
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: where she exaggerates what you're saying. You know, maybe maybe
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: you could take out the trash becomes you think I'm
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: a horrible slob. You think blah blah, and it's like
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: I am worthless and it's like, well, no, I think
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: that you could just remember to take out the trash.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: That doesn't make you a worthless human being to forget right.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: And so this is this is actually a offensive maneuver,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: like she's she is actually social. Yeah, she is silencing
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: him by pretending that him bringing up legitimate concerns is
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: tied to her self esteem. Therefore he has to stop
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: or he's harming her self esteem. That's not a healthy dynamic.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 7: Okay, all right, next spot, and then.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 11: You know, then it kind of ends up fizzling out
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 11: because I don't get to get my point across.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: And then yeah, that's.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: Actually again, let's take more notes from your TikTok community.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: All right, pausing for the banning again, that's.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: An incredibly manipulative and almost gaslighting thing that you're doing
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: where you have a real conversation and then you go, oh,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: I'm not a good part, I'm not contributing to anything.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: You aren't.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: To have that conversation and then go in there with
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: that both that self victimizing bulk.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: That's stop.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: I want to see the woman's reaction. Are good?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: He correct? He completely identified that that dynamic.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 7: It is?
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what what's her reaction though? I want to
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: see it?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 9: All right?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 8: I feel like we always like resolve our issues.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 9: I I mean, you feel that because you deflect self
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 9: victimize and he stops the conversation and you feel resolved
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 9: because he embraces you.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: Good lord? Is this considered emotional labor? Feminists like, seriously,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: this is a very common dynamic between male and female people,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: like in a relationship, especially in a relationship where the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: woman has hand because she's more attractive or whatever, the
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: man has to cowtew to her emotional reality and somehow
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: and the submission to her emotional reality is so complete
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: with a lot of these women that they think feeling
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: emotions is them doing emotional labor for their partner who
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: has to swallow his own emotions so that she can
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: feel her emotions. But this is the same this, and
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: is this considered emotional labor? Is this dynamic considered emotional labor?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: The man brings up a problem he has, the woman
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: deflects it onto Oh, I'm so such a the problem
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: you have is making me feel like I'm such a
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: worthless person. I feel so bad. Comfort me now, my
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: emotions are more important than the problem you brought up,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: and he does is that considered emotional labor because I
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: see a lot.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let me see here. Uh that was
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: all for that time, code, Do you play more.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: Of this or sure, let's let's see what well this
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: gets resolved.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: We do.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 11: We do get to finish the conversation. But you know,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 11: I feel like in in that area, especially with looking
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 11: for another job, Like I like every everything can be
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 11: like you know, some people like the trad wife thing.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 11: Some you know, like different relationships have different like like
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 11: ratios of stuff.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 8: Quickly told me that if I don't want to work,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 8: I don't have to work, that you would get a
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 8: higher paying job, and that I could just stay at home.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: Oh good lord, what a fucking parison the child, Oh
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: get rid of her. But you know, but the thing
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: is that he can't because it's probably terrifying the thought
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: of not having her or not having a woman. It's
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: probably where's validation comes from.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, set it up like that. It would be
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: a little weird to go against it.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 8: He has said that to me multiple times.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's an option.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: He didn't do that to you, though, And again you
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: you can still be like, well, I'm going to work anyway,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: or I'm going to do the triad wife thing or whatever,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: but you didn't do it either of them. You're just
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: sleeping in and doing just like doing whatever. And then
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: you're blaming him for i don't know, like calling you
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: out on it or asking for help or whatever, like
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: what why should he even have to ask you? You
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: should be taking initiative?
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 7: But like, that's not what I want.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: I want a job.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 8: My self worth is directly tied to how productive I
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 8: can be, and.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: That's why you want a job. That's why you want
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: a job. You don't want a job to help out
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: with the family finances. You want it because your self
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: esteem is tied to it.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Listen to this again.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 8: My self worth is directly tied to how productive I
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 8: can be, and I've no offense.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: He's never been productive.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 5: I've been what's the longest job you've ever had?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 8: A year and three months?
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a year and three months?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay. Let's go.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 8: With end of life care for an elderly man with Deninsha.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: Why do you always have to go see this is
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: what she does. She always has to go into the
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: conversation with bringing up something sad to shut it down.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: You see how this works. I mean it's not good.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: It is not a healthy way to live, but to
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: have conversations.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: But I help you recognize that.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 7: But like all this stuff has yeah.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: She did, She does kind of do that. So so
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: what was your only job? Well, I worked for a
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: year and three months. That's not a lot. What did
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: you do? I was I was working with a dying
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: old man. Now now you feel bad for asking you see,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: look at the face. Now you feel bad.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: She was funding to me, Like, look at the face.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: Look at her face. She just talked about helping a
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: man who is dying for a year and a half.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: And look at the expression on her face. Annoyed, annoyance,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: and she's peeved. That's the expression. She just mentioned doing
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: end of life care for a vulnerable person who died,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: and her expression is peeded. This is either she is
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: so syllopsistic that she doesn't recognize other humans, or this
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: is a possible sociopath. I mean, I'm not saying that
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: she is. It's not an official diagnosis. But what I'm
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: saying is, if you are recalling something in your life
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: that should have had an emotional impact on her, and
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: I press X a doubt, how did she get put
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: in a position where she's doing something like that? Usually
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: you'd have to have some kind of qualification, But regardless,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: you would imagine it would have some emotional impact on her,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, and apparently does not have any
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: She just uses it a weapon in a conversation. All right,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: let's keep going.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 7: All right, happened and it does have an effect on her.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying it doesn't, but it's the way that
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: every conversation is with her. You bring up a valid
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: point and then she has to bring in something where
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: it gets sad. And if you then push on that
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: valid point again, you all of a sudden look bad because,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: oh no, something sad happened, because you can't be a dick.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: You see the expression or something sad has happened.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: Do you see the expressions she's making?
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I see it, because then you look like
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: a piece of.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: And it's a tactic people like her use to get
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: out of any valid criticism.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 7: I just don't think she's doing it on purpose.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: This in DNA she's female. Oh god, no, I'm just
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: being I'm being facetious. Well that the expressions that she's
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: making are not leaving me with any sense that she
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: is emotionally affected by the things she brings up. Rather
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: she sees them simply as tools to enact or will
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: on others.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: M all right, all right, I got a superchow from ZARANX,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: who gives us five dollars and says, for the record,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Adam knew what apple Eve was giving him to eat.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: He knew it on site and where it came from.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: The fact that this goes on constantly, and humanity shows
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: how often men yield to women, and now we know
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: how we got to where we are today. Also that
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: woman's self worth being tied to how productive she is.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: Screams that she's a feminist to those who are able
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: to see it. Loving how Caleb is pointing stuff out
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: to thank you for super superchow. Yeah yeah.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: So far in this conversation she has removed She's taken
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: every criticism and reframed it in terms of her self
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: worth its impact on her self worth. She has thrown
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: out anecdotes that make anybody who criticizes her as the
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: bad guy. And despite the fact that what she's talking
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: about should make her sad, it isn't. She just continues
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: to act peeved that she's not getting her own way.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, okay, all right.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: This is how she lives.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: This is how she's gotten past any criticism in her life.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 11: This has learned and it's instinctual to her. And we're
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 11: working on help her emotional terrors. We're working on helping
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 11: her change that.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: You know, are we because I'm the first one to
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: bring it up and you haven't brought it up, and
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 5: you don't even seem to agree with me right now.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 7: I mean.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 8: When I was in therapy last year, we.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: Should probably do that times three. Uh okay, I just
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: but not an enabling therapists, which again I don't want
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: to LOOPI in a group, but many people like yeah,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: they only wait they go through therapist until they find
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: the therapist that enables their thoughts and behavior and worldview.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: And it's very bad because you need someone to challenge you.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 8: I'm ready for a challenge a year.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: And one month's worth of one.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 8: What's that in reference to.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 7: The job A year in three. Yeah, three, Hey, let's
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 7: text months, you know.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, should I go to another time code.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: This is amblematic. This is literally emblematic of the social
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: roles we're not allowed to examine. She feels entitled to
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: live off another person like this, And if this was
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: a man, I don't think you'd be getting away with this.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: I mean I can. I can actually look at the
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: caleb Reddit response to this, and I'm guessing that I'm
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: guessing it's entirely possible that they slammed on Caleb for
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: calling her out like this. But we'll see, Like I'll
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: look up that response. Let's listen to a little.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: Bit more though.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: All Right, I got a super chow from Richard Pierre
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: who gives us five dollars and says, since we are
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: talking finance here, allowed me to divulge the secret of
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: being a higher level contributor. If you save a penny
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: every day, at the end of the year, you will
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: have thirty six five hundred dollars that you can contribute
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: to HBr. Alternatively, you can save a quarter every day
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: and at the end of the year you will have
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars to contribute to HBr.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: What yeah, it's a joke.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: It's a it's it's a reference to an argument between
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: a husband and a wife in which the wife insisted
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: that if she saved a penny every day for a year,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: she'd have thirty five thousand dollars, No, thirty six thousand dollars,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: thirty six thousand, five hundred dollars. And the husband was
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: trying desperately to explain why this wasn't the case, and
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: she just couldn't get it. Yeah, yeah, and it's that's
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: what he's That's.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: What it was math.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, Well, this is this girl psychology. This is
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: this is how she's managed to navigate her life for
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: however many years, and and it actually is terrifying because
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: there's certain parts of herself that she hasn't developed and
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: she doesn't understand. She just considers it an attack. She's
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: so undeveloped in terms of recognizing her own agency. It
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: doesn't exist for her. That whole part of being a
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: human being doesn't exist for her. It's like if you
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: looked into her skull, half of her brain was missing.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: And this is what we encourage in women. This is
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: the behavior that we encourage in women. It's like self lobotomy.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, right, so the next time them talking about their
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: spending habits.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: Maybe filter everything through that card. What is that to you?
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 11: Like like I would pay I would pay my bills
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 11: on it, and then your bill and then.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 7: Pay it off after.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: But it was just like, why it's max down.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 7: Well, sorry, it's not max too.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: You're right, it's not max out.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: It's over the limit by two hundred sixty seven dollars
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: and thirty seven cents. So you're putting our bills on
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: a card that is over the limit. That is a
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 5: coin interest that we can't pay off to save our life.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: Those oh good, that is a coin fees.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: That is a green fees.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: Woof the producers they were watching you, They said, do
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: you seem surprised by that?
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 7: I did say. I did say, uh, you did not know.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: You probably don't know.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 8: It's sober masked.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: So you becoming financially dependent to someone that can't even
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 5: manage his own finances.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: M hm, Well she can just walk away. That's probably
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: her her ultimate strategy.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, she could.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: Well, people use less credit cards than the euros, so
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: maybe it will be better off there.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 7: I all right.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 8: I gave him, uh three sounds dollars to help pay
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 8: off some of his cards. How much three thousand from
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 8: the kid fund from my grand Yeah, it isn't for
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 8: the kids.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: What car did that go on?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 7: We that went on the Amazon and.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: The American Express, not the Southwest at all. No, So
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: you've purchased one hundred and forty dollars on here, you
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 5: had one hundred and eighty nine dollars of fees. Dude,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: you tit one hundred and seventeen dollars and sixty eight
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 5: cents of interest accrued and we got a three hundred
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 5: sixty eight dollars minimum monthly payment. What the fuck is
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 5: going on? So, really, let's be honest. You sacked up
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: a lot of debt to your life, and now you
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: just want to flee to get away from it instead
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 5: of taking any ownership and beating this down.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: Let's be honest. That's what this is really looking like.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 11: No, I mean like, we can't leave the country with debt, right, like,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 11: we want to pay it off.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 7: That's why we're here, you know, ding ding ding.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: So I'll say this, what's gonna say.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: Listen, I'm okay with the center left government I'm okay
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 5: with the center right government. I like good and nuanced
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: in the middle where you can fly back and forth,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: a nice little.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: Fence it, you know, I like that, right, But you
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: guys or her right now.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: Just like people on the far right, anyone slightly to
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 5: the left as a communist, her she's on the far left,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 5: anyone slightly to the right as a fascist.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: This is what the internet is right now?
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: So they're both on two different parts of the spectrum.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: No, she's she's further left than her boyfriend, but they're both.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: Left these Okay, I think yeah, I honestly, I think
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: anybody who justifies government spending like this is is a commie.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: I think like his, I don't know. I think there's
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: more to right and left and sheer economics, to be frank,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: I think it's.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's the degree to which the state should
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: be involved in your life. That's what it comes down to. Yeah,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: I agree to which the state should be involved in
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: your life.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: While I think that's pretty much the only politics.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: Some people, yeah, I mean some some people will say
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: that the right spends a lot of money, the government
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: money because of military. But I don't think that that's
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: a right wing thing. I think that that is a
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: neocon thing, which is not the same, and I think
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: most people are not that way.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: So yeah, well, like I've said before, I think the ultimate,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: ultimately politics comes down to whether or not you sign
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: off on government debt. And yeah, that's it, and and
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: and literally it really comes down to whether or not
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: you sign off on the eventual end of the economy
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: that you rely on. Do you sign off on killing
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: the golden goose? No, I don't, because it's insanity, but
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: you know, it's it's the It is actually the trajectory
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: of every monetary system ever. So I guess that's that's
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: that's humans thing. That's what we do. We create an
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: economic system and then we just completely fuck it and
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: then we create a new one. Maybe it's maybe it's recycling,
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: who knows, but anyway, are we are we basically done
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: with this couple? Because yeah, yeah, I think all right,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: So I wanted to see what they had, what the
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: reddit analysis for this, uh, because I did finally get
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: the proper analysis, the final verdict. Yes, the reddit callub's
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: reddit fan base, if you can call it that, because
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: they always apply these these narratives and they're never happy.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: But on Reddit, yes, the framework is biased against Mailvick.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: So their framework in analyzing this show is biased against
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: male victims. It's biased towards female victims or seeing women
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: as victims of men's financial abuse. So let's look at
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: that the frequency at which they identify male victims is
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: substantially less than female victims. Of course, and I want
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: to note when I say that that feminists in general,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: feminist research into domestic violence victimization experienced by men finds
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: two to four times less, so one fourth as much
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: victimization as non feminist investigation. And you gotta actually wonder,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: you know, when they say that patriarchy minimizes male victims,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: are they once again just projecting what they're doing onto patriarchy.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: But anyway, that's a little bit of an aside. Of course,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: they're going to find less male victimization, the tone downplayed, blamed,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: or reframed as provider failure. Apparently, traditional gender roles still
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: exist for the Reddit feminists when it comes to financial abuse. Consistency,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: same acts equal abuse if they're directed at women, and
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: negligence if they're directed at men. The community mockery, dismissal,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: or conditional validation validity. You know what's really funny about
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 3: that is there was recently this this meme that I
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: saw on Twitter, and it showed women laughing are they
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: talking about the seriousness of domestic violence? And then the
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: next one was a SpongeBob meme where he's laughing uproariously
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: and the and the caption was basically women when they're
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: thinking or they're talking about male domestic violence against male
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: domestic violence against men. Sorry, stumbling a bit, are we okay?
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: Anything paused? Okay? So this me And and there was
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: a woman who retweeted it and said something like women
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: never do this and it's patriarchy. It's like, of right here.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: There is an example in the Caleb Hammer finance Fans
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: reddit of people mocking men for being financially abused. I
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: would honestly say that the pervert provider role puts men
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: in a position to be more likely to be financially
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: abused than women. Structural guest skew plus probing bias locks
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: in female victim narrative. Bottom line, the R Caleb Hammer
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: financial abuse framework is not gender neutral. It operates in
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: a one way filter that amplifies female victimization and suppresses
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: male victimization, even when evidence is symmetrical. If you're a
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: male victim or no one watching the show, don't expect
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: validation from Hammer or the subreddit. Document everything. Oh my god,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: Groox says, what we say, all we be recording. You
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: just heard it from Groc, like Groc has analyzed the
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: situation of men in society, and Groc says, always be recording.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: Document everything. The framework will default to blaming you seek
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: neutral resources, for example, financial counselor's legal aid outside the
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: show's echo chamber. Now, this is probably amplifying because it
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: looks like Caleb is calling women out, but he may
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: not actually be identifying this as financial abuse. He may
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: not be saying this you are financially abusing him, or
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: he may not offer any kind of resources to the victim,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: which is the man here. Okay, and here are some
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: corrective measures that could be taken actively. Platform male victim stories.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: Use consistent language abuse versus stress. So if a man
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 3: does it, it's abuse, if a woman does it, it's
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: just stressed. Challenge double standard. In real time, you know
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 3: nobody's gonna do that, but us of course, but they
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: could do that to make it a better world, a
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: fairer world, a more equitable world. And then I asked,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: what's the reddit analysis of the three one hundred thousand
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: of debt to flee Trump's America? So let's find out
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: about that reddit analysis of the three? Okay, this episode
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: in question is from Caleb Hammer's financial audit series Just
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 3: you Know, setting this the the Landscape. It features a
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: solo female. Oh wait, what the hell? No, this is incorrect.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: It feels uh if it features it features a couple. Okay,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: Grek is is screwing up. We did do we did
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: do this one. This features a couple. All right, all right,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: Grek has screwed up. Excuse me for a moment. I
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: need to I need to beat on groc for a bit.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: It's AI abuse, all right. Okay, So any any super
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: chat super chats? By the way, guys, if you want
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: to message us, the best way to do so is
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: feed thebadger dot com slash just the tip get the
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: full benefit of whatever funds you send, and we and
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: you get the benefit of not sending your comment through
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 3: YouTube's I'm still going to continue to use the euphemism
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: because I'm probably censorship is flagged, but you know, call
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: YouTube's comment thresher system. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: here we go. Oh this is a combined debt of
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: three hundred and twenty thousand student loads, credit cards, mortgage
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: on a fixer upper, and an exile prepro admid post
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four election fears of Trump's fascism, We didn't,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: did you? Actually? Did we? Actually? I don't remember going
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: through them saying that they put a whole bunch of
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: stuff on their credit cards to get away from Trump's fascism.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: Did we miss that?
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: Um, we might have missed that.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well that was interesting. Uh, Steve is more
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: of that's the male character. The male character, yeah, is
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: more pragmatic, but enables by co signing debts and splitting costs.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: Hammer Grims grills them on feasibility. As of November tenth,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, five weeks post update, RDIT discussions are
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: intensely polarized and viral. It ranks as the subreddits number
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: one episode I Wonder Why with cross posts in Our
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: Personal Finance and Our Conservatism commentary follows the subreddits by
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: framework Financial Delusion entitlement, political weaponization, couple dynamics, abuse undertones,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: and genders scrutiny. Oh, Savannah bears eighty percent of the roasts.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: Oh so Savannah is actually being called out. It must
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: have been so obvious in this one. Even Reddit noticed
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: no dedicated abuse analysis thread. Well, that's definitely a difference,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: because if the genders were reversed, there would be one
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: fifteen percent of comments invoke abuse, financial abuse parallels Steve
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: as enabler victim no just victim. Below is a structured
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: breakdown from top threads comments. Oh, a couple tries to
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: flee Trump with three hundred thousand debt focus, ultimate delusion dulo. Okay,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: all right, let me just figure out what is the
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: what would the analyze this based on the financial abuse
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: framework in the in the reddit subreddit that we had
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: went through earlier. Okay, so now it's going to apply
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: that framework, all right. This couple's episode reveals subtle but
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: skewed dynamics, leaning towards Savannah as the primary abuser enabler
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: and Steve as the passive victim. However, the frameworks bias
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: against male victims shines through. Steve's enabling complicity is downplayed
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: or blamed on him henpacked beta. Oh, I almost feel
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: bad for calling him a buckman. While Savanna's control is
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: frame like as delusional activism rather than outright abuse abuse.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: Themes appear in twenty percent of comments, higher than solo episodes,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: but recognition is conditional. Hammer probes a light and the
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 3: community amplifies female led delusion over male victimization. No overt
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: abuse labels stick to Savannah instead, It's mutual sabotage. That's
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: not what I saw. I saw a man who's afraid
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: to confront this woman who uses her own pride, self esteem,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: her own emotions. Everything goes back to her and she uses,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: she weaponizes them to take away his voice. That's actually controlling.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that might even qualify as coercive
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: control by a vulnerable narcissist. Okay, this is the lignes
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 3: of the frameworks eighty to skew towards male abuser framework. Here,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 3: the female led control flips the script but gets neutralized,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: reinforcing dismissal of male victims. Steve's case fits the rare
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty percent enabler blame pattern. Below is a
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: structured application the frame work work too episode. Okay, we
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: might skip that. Let's look at the summary structural bias,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: bottom line, the subreddit frame where misfires on this gender flip,
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  Speaker 3: treating Savanna's control as entertaining chaos, not abuse, and Steve's
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  Speaker 3: plight is self inflicted, proving it's one way filter. If
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  Speaker 3: reversed male push or female enabler, it'd be text based
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  Speaker 3: coercive control with viral evil husband posts. This episode subtly
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  Speaker 3: challenges the bias, but gets absorbed into it, highlighting calls
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  Speaker 3: for balanced lenses, consistent abuse tags, and consistent abuse tags
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  Speaker 3: for raw threads, check our Caleb Hammer's top posts. Okay,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: so why are male victims not recognized? Well, apparently a
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  Speaker 3: big reason is because there are gigantic arenas social media
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  Speaker 3: arenas where women turn male abuse into humor. They have
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: taken this situation by this guy who's obviously afraid to
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  Speaker 3: talk to his partner to clearly articulate his concerns, right,
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: And I don't believe for a second that he genuinely said, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to have a job. I think that's bullshit.
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  Speaker 3: All of this is bullshit. And they take this situation
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  Speaker 3: that this man is facing and they turn it into
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  Speaker 3: entertaining chaos. That's one of the big reasons why men
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  Speaker 3: aren't seen as victims and women have responsibility to take
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  Speaker 3: what a surprise. I mean, I look at these communities
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  Speaker 3: and I've done analyzes because GROC is great with analyzes
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  Speaker 3: of these communities and their behavior. The fan fiction community,
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  Speaker 3: female fan fiction community is unbelievably toxic when it came
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  Speaker 3: to male consent. So you'll hear these feminists talk about
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  Speaker 3: AI porn and like computer programs that approximate women when
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  Speaker 3: they're nude or whatever, and they'll talk about how this
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  Speaker 3: is exploitative of actresses and women in the public eye,
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  Speaker 3: but not a peep about all of the in real life,
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  Speaker 3: the real person slash fan fiction that is gay fan
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  Speaker 3: fiction or even heater sexual fanfic, well, I guess mostly
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  Speaker 3: it's gay that is created by women, puts the men
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  Speaker 3: into sexual situations that they would never consent to in
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  Speaker 3: real life, humiliates them, degrades them, treats them like contempt,
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  Speaker 3: emasculates them, and not a word that this might actually
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  Speaker 3: be exploitative too for men who actors and other and
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  Speaker 3: politicians and other men in the public eye. But we
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  Speaker 3: have to focus so much on what men do to women,
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 3: and no thought is given to what women do to men.
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  Speaker 3: And again this is a This is in terms of
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  Speaker 3: online presence, fantic community is pretty big and has absolutely
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  Speaker 3: no sense of responsibility to men's consent at all. There's
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  Speaker 3: like a tiny minority of people are starting to ask
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  Speaker 3: those questions. And then we have this community the financial
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  Speaker 3: audit in Caleb Hammer communities, and they think that a
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  Speaker 3: man being financially abused with this man obviously is he
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  Speaker 3: demonstrates fear of this woman. And you know, I guess
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  Speaker 3: there's a there's a there's a tendency to laugh at that.
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  Speaker 3: But this is something that all most men have, unless
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  Speaker 3: they are actually associopath or a narcissist. Most men are
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 3: or unusually disagreeable without being like having antisocial personality, which
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 3: is possible. Most men have a certain amount of fear
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 3: of confronting their lives. This is a very common male experience.
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  Speaker 3: He's afraid of her, he's afraid of stressing what he
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  Speaker 3: wants in a relationship. She uses all kinds of abusive
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 3: tactics to shut him down, and she's also pushing him
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  Speaker 3: further and further into debt over political values that he
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: may not share. He may be on the left, but
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 3: is it really that clear that he's behind this idea
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 3: that they have to flee America because of Trump's fascism.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like it if he has a more common
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 3: sense approach to it. So she's pushing him into debt.
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  Speaker 3: She is financially abusing him. And this forum, while it
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 3: will recognize a reverse situation that the man is financially
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  Speaker 3: abusing a woman, it considers it's humorous. It's just chaos.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 3: It's just humorous chaos when the woman is the financial abuser.
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  Speaker 3: That meme that I saw this morning is I didn't
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  Speaker 3: expect it to be proven so violently right by the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day. Maybe I should have put more
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: faith into internet memes. Okay, by the way, again, the
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 3: meme is that women laugh. You know, they want domestic
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  Speaker 3: violence to be treated seriously, but then they turn around
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  Speaker 3: and laugh and men who are abused, and do I
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  Speaker 3: think all women do it? Obviously not, I'm not laughing.
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  Speaker 3: If I am laughing, it's just black humor recognition of
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 3: the horror of the situation. But yeah, there are a
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 3: number of women who do and of course, the woman
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  Speaker 3: who retweeted that meme is like, no, we don't do that, Yes,
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: you do, you do that and worse. Okay, all right,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 3: I'm sort of done. I shouldn't have used the lady
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  Speaker 3: the evil D word. Shit. Sorry guys. Okay, so are
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  Speaker 3: we done all.
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  Speaker 1: Of the Yeah? That was it?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: Basically, I mean that last one was kind of an
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  Speaker 1: extra one. I think we basically got the yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: think this is good.
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  Speaker 3: I think we hammered this down and it was surprisingly
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  Speaker 3: topical in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: I I guess I should have more faith than Richard
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 3: Bierre and internet memes. Okay, all right, so thank you
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 3: Richard for this suggestion. Very helpful. When I can't think
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 3: of anything to do. Sometimes it becomes a bit of
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 3: a grind to try to figure out content, and thank
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 3: you for everybody? Wait, that's you, isn't it? You do that?
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: I can do it. But I mean, like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you wanted to say anything about feed the
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, sure. So I still don't how
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  Speaker 3: this is really important. I'm starting to realize just how
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  Speaker 3: important the stuff that we've done for fifteen years turned
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 3: out to be. I I just had an extended discussion.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 3: I think it was GPT five, Like I have all
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 3: I've collected all of the AIS guys, all of them,
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 3: and I talk about them, about these issues with all
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 3: of them, and in the end I figured out based
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  Speaker 3: on you know, it's facilitated research, feminism is actually using
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  Speaker 3: a bio essentialist framework to blame men while hand waving
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 3: it because bio essentialist framework, so the idea that someone
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  Speaker 3: is born criminal is considered so verbotan in science because
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: of what it has created in the past in terms
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 3: of eugenics and genocide that they've they've, they've they've it's
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 3: there's huge prohibitions and ethical like don't do it, like
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 3: basically ethical prohibitions against doing it. And yet what feminist
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: has created created is while the research community is deeply
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 3: concerned about the implications of genetic research into criminal behavior,
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 3: because of the concept of born criminal, we're perfectly fine
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: with describing blame to men universally. Right, So the way
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 3: that it works, is feminists hand wave it and say, no,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 3: it's men, it's socialization. And they do that because they
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 3: that avoids the ethical scrutiny of saying that it's biology.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 3: That's what's happened. That's why they do it. But they
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 3: don't actually put any kind There is no causal mechanism
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 3: that they've proposed, no socialization, causal mechanism that explains the
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 3: universality of this blame, Like it literally applies to all men.
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  Speaker 3: And the only thing that explains how universal it is
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 3: is that it is applied when the label you are
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 3: a boy is applied to you when you're born. That's
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: why it's a high. It has one hundred percent saturation
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  Speaker 3: with men, this blame, feminist blame has one hundred percent
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  Speaker 3: of saturation with men. All men are subject to it, right,
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 3: not just all men, sorry, all men are subject to
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 3: the correctness of the blame. So it is like all
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 3: men are subject to this socialization one hundred percent, all
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  Speaker 3: of them, no exceptions. They're they're not even biology, not
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 3: even a biological sex like trait has one hundred percent saturation,
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 3: much less a socialized trait. And they do this because
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 3: they want to tie these this condemnation, this contempt, this
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 3: blame two men as a category, not even a biological category,
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 3: because biology wouldn't express something one hundred percent through a category,
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: would there be variations. No, they're tying this, They're tying
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: this categorization to a biological factor. And it's like, that
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 3: is so unethical. It is. It is like Neuremberg Trials
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  Speaker 3: level of unethical. It's like pre genocide trials of unethical.
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  Speaker 3: And it just so happens, you know, like the people
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 3: who engage in this, they just sometimes pop out with
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 3: some genocidal rhetoric, but they're just girls. Right, this is
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 3: a I'm like looking at the scope of this, and
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 3: even even chat ept is like, wow, this is this
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 3: is this is actually really a bad thing. I'm like, yes,
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 3: it is. And it's like but I'm not laughing because
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: it's funny. I'm laughing because it's horrifying. But we have
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 3: based so much of our society on an ethical breach
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 3: that has in the past caused people to be in
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 3: front of war tribunals for war crimes. You just wrap
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 3: your heads around that there is no justification for feminism,
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 3: and in the just world, they'd be going to jail.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: Feminist academics would be going to jail for this, for
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 3: this gross lapse in ethical oversight. Oh, I don't know
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 3: if what I've said it makes any sense to anyone
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  Speaker 3: that makes sense? Okay, thank you, Brian. You're not just
• 2:09:01
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