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The Kenny Report | 13 August · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: VI is the Kenny Report, Thanks Ross tonight, the multi
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  Speaker 1: billion dollar renewable energy and subsidies ponzi scheme that is
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  Speaker 1: vandalizing this country. Labour tips in another two point five
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  Speaker 1: billion of your tax dollars. Anthony Albernezi still won't apologize
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  Speaker 1: for his purele podcast controversy, mellngate chasing him from the
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  Speaker 1: Hunter Valley to Canberra.
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  Speaker 2: Anti one Nation and anti Pauline Hansen.
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  Speaker 1: Protesters display their ignorance and intimidate and grapple with News
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  Speaker 1: twenty four reporter Georgie Dickerson and Ozzie's caught up in
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  Speaker 1: an ugly episode of Due Hatred in France. Also Mark
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  Speaker 1: Robinson on Some Different Kinds of Footy and Mark Nicholson
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  Speaker 1: on crime in Melbourne. Once more, the Prime Minister has
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  Speaker 1: refused to apologize for his lude and crude podcast interview
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  Speaker 1: about Japanese Prime Minister Sanai Takaichi and her gift.
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  Speaker 2: Of royal melons.
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  Speaker 1: The issue has dogged Anthony Arberizi again today in Parliament
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  Speaker 1: and at a media conference.
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  Speaker 3: I've answered this question many times. The fact is well,
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  Speaker 3: the fact is the fact is well.
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  Speaker 1: No, he hasn't answered these questions many times. He hadn't
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  Speaker 1: fronted a press conference before today for about a fortnight,
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  Speaker 1: and when he was asked about the issue in Parliament
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  Speaker 1: yesterday he failed to provide any answers.
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  Speaker 2: Today he looked so lost.
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  Speaker 1: That the New South Wales Premier Chris Min's off camera
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  Speaker 1: in this clip.
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  Speaker 2: Piped up to provide protection.
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  Speaker 3: How warm our dinner was and it was indeed.
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  Speaker 4: Go and ask a thousand workers what they care about today,
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  Speaker 4: witness this is the.
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  Speaker 5: Biggest announcement to this region in a generation.
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  Speaker 2: Can we just talk about it for five minutes?
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  Speaker 1: And so in the afternoon, the circus moved back to
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  Speaker 1: the nation's capital.
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  Speaker 6: Morning, the Prime Minister was asked yet again about his
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  Speaker 6: classless comments on the Bush Deep podcast. Yet again he
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  Speaker 6: refused to give a straight answer. To save him from embarrassment,
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  Speaker 6: the new South Wales Premier stepped in and shut down
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  Speaker 6: the question. Why won't the Prime Minister Manner stop hiding
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  Speaker 6: behind his colleagues and take responsibility for his grubby behavior.
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  Speaker 1: Just an apology, that's all that's required, An admission of
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  Speaker 1: fault and saying sorry instead of pretending that everyone else
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  Speaker 1: has misinterpreted his schoolboy humor. But we only got Stonewall Wood.
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  Speaker 3: I thank the Leader of the Opposition for his question
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  Speaker 3: and I direct him to the comments of the Ambassador
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  Speaker 3: of Japan, who has stated very clearly. The dinner hosted
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  Speaker 3: by Prime Minister Alberanezi during the Prime Minister's visit to
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  Speaker 3: Australia this may was held in a very relaxed atmosphere
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  Speaker 3: and it helped build a personal trust relationship between the
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  Speaker 3: two leaders.
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  Speaker 1: Albanez he desperately tried to move on to other issues.
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  Speaker 2: But the Coalition stayed on Melongate for a while.
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  Speaker 7: A month before he made sexys remarks about the Prime
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  Speaker 7: Minister of Japan on the Bush Deep podcast. The Prime
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  Speaker 7: Minister did post this comment online. No matter who's supporting politics,
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  Speaker 7: it is completely unacceptable to demean, objectify, belittle or offend women.
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  Speaker 7: So why won't the Prime Minister stop hiding behind his
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  Speaker 7: female front benches and the New South Wales Premier and
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  Speaker 7: take responsibility for his disrespectful behavior.
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  Speaker 1: Still, the Prime Minister avoided a direct answer and refused
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  Speaker 1: to apologize.
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  Speaker 3: The visit of Prime Minister Takeichi was an extremely successful one,
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  Speaker 3: following on previous successful visits by the Prime Minister Kishita.
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  Speaker 3: Following on my three visits to Japan as well.
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  Speaker 1: Poor Prime Minister Albanezi, He's a victim in all of this.
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  Speaker 1: All he did was sit in his official taxpayer provided
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  Speaker 1: residents the Lodge to record a juvenile podcast where he
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  Speaker 1: told everyone about his and his wife's sex life.
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  Speaker 8: The Bonkan light rabbits.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know when we have time after the footy,
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  Speaker 3: after the forty A good afrodisiak at souse Win then.
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  Speaker 1: Went on to tell us who else he might like
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  Speaker 1: to get into a physical relationship with.
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  Speaker 8: Every guest gets asked these Shag Mary Date, Kylie Minow,
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  Speaker 8: Nicole Kibman or Ronda Birch Moore.
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  Speaker 2: I've just got married.
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  Speaker 3: I'm only six months in.
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  Speaker 8: If a ghost tips up, let's just pretend oh Kylie.
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  Speaker 8: Clearly he married Kylie and Shagger and data all of
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  Speaker 8: the above.
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  Speaker 1: And finally he mocked a gift from Japan in this
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  Speaker 1: crude fashion.
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  Speaker 3: The Japanese Prime Minister brought a melon.
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  Speaker 2: She did she smuggle it? I don't know. I got
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  Speaker 2: a couple of melons.
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  Speaker 9: She brought two.
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  Speaker 2: She brought too, as you do.
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  Speaker 8: She just came in looking like Pamela Randa.
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  Speaker 2: She brought to yes, and they're beautiful, you're Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 1: Rather than admit error and apologize, the Prime Minister says
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  Speaker 1: his critics have misinterpreted him. Yeah, he's not the full
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  Speaker 1: everyone else is apparently. I guess he figures people believed
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  Speaker 1: him on power prices, they believed him on negative gearing,
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  Speaker 1: and they believed him.
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  Speaker 2: On capital gains tax, so he thinks they might believe
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  Speaker 2: him on this stuff too.
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  Speaker 1: The major announcement the Prime Minister made today with the
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales Premier was a two point five billion
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  Speaker 1: dollar bailout for the Tomago Ala Milliam smelter in New
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  Speaker 1: South Wales Hunter Valley. That's two thousand and five hundred
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  Speaker 1: million dollars that will be split between the federal and
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  Speaker 1: state labor governments, each tip in one two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty million dollars each well you will, taxpayers will. That
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  Speaker 1: equates to two point five million dollars for each of
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  Speaker 1: the thousand jobs.
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  Speaker 2: At the plant.
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  Speaker 1: Just incredible numbers and surely a crushing indictment on Labour's
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  Speaker 1: energy and industry policies.
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  Speaker 2: But the Prime Minister pretended it's all rosy.
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  Speaker 3: This is a great example of governments at different levels
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  Speaker 3: working together to secure jobs and to secure the future,
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  Speaker 3: but also working with the private sector to secure outcomes
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  Speaker 3: in the national interest.
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  Speaker 1: This is actually a dramatic example of the national energy
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  Speaker 1: self harm that I spoke about last night. The threat
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  Speaker 1: to Tomago is electricity costs. They are debilitating and they've
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  Speaker 1: escalated dramatically as coal fired power plants in the region
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  Speaker 1: have been forced to close thanks to government policy.
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  Speaker 2: Now taxpayer subsidies.
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  Speaker 1: Will keep the lu million plant going while investments are
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  Speaker 1: made to install more renewable energy and storage to buttress
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  Speaker 1: the national energy grid and the company's supplies.
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  Speaker 3: We have worked very hard with Niche out Wales to
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  Speaker 3: make sure that we have an agreement going forward. This
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  Speaker 3: will require additional investment in clean energy.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about throwing good money after bad. It's the renewables
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  Speaker 1: push that's created this disaster and now Albanezi reckons the
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  Speaker 1: same renewables push will provide the solution.
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  Speaker 2: Tom IGO's dire situation and.
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  Speaker 1: The taxpayer bailout are just the latest in a string
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  Speaker 1: of similar cases, all driven by the power price increases
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  Speaker 1: that flow directly from government policies. Other taxpayer bailouts have
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  Speaker 1: gone to smelters at Wyala in South Australia, mount iSER
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  Speaker 1: and Queensland, Port Pirie in South Australia, Hobart Gladstone in Queensland,
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  Speaker 1: and Portland in Victoria, all subsidized by billions of taxpayers dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Let me explain in clear terms what governments are doing
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  Speaker 1: with your money. Governments have spent tens of billions of
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  Speaker 1: dollars more than one hundred billion dollars all up, subsidizing
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  Speaker 1: and directly funding renewable energy projects around the country aimed
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  Speaker 1: at forcing coal fired power out of the electricity grid.
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  Speaker 1: Then they've subsidized some coal fired power generators to stay
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  Speaker 1: online because we'll go dark without them. The government has
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  Speaker 1: then ticked off on thousands of kilometers of new transmission
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  Speaker 1: lines to support renewables, and those transmission lines have guaranteed
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  Speaker 1: rates of return that we all pay for in our
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  Speaker 1: soaring power bills.
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  Speaker 2: All this has.
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  Speaker 1: Pushed our power prices up to their highest levels ever
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  Speaker 1: for households. They are now about one thousand dollars a
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  Speaker 1: year higher than Labour promised. Labour is also spending tens
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  Speaker 1: of billions of dollars on solar panels and battery subsidies
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  Speaker 1: for private homes and it's spent billions more on direct
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  Speaker 1: subsidies to homes and small businesses to reduce electricity bills,
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  Speaker 1: and it's paid more than ten billion dollars and rising
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  Speaker 1: in subsidies to help major industries to cope with high
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  Speaker 1: electricity costs. What a ponzi scheme of taxpayers money and
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  Speaker 1: renewable energy zealotry. They are sending the country broke and
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  Speaker 1: pushing industries offshore.
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  Speaker 2: And the real kicker here, the real kicker in all
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  Speaker 2: of this.
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  Speaker 1: Albernezi and Bowen and their mates tell us that they're
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  Speaker 1: doing all of this to save the planet. But none
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  Speaker 1: of this has made a jot of difference to the climate,
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  Speaker 1: because global emissions.
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  Speaker 2: Continued to rise.
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  Speaker 1: National energy self harm on a scale that is hard
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  Speaker 1: to believe. We have a national government that is vandalizing
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  Speaker 1: our country while the Royal Commission into the Bondai terror
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  Speaker 1: attack and anti semitism continues. I want to share an
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  Speaker 1: example of alleged anti Semitic abuse experienced by two Australians
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  Speaker 1: who are Jewish holidaying in France. It happened to a
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  Speaker 1: couple from Melbourne in a supermarket in Avignon. Now we
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  Speaker 1: don't hear the key accusation that the irishman, who called
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  Speaker 1: himself Patty said it was a pity Hitler didn't finish
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  Speaker 1: the job. But what we do here is aggressive and sickening,
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  Speaker 1: including comeback Hitler, have a look.
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  Speaker 2: Was glad that.
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  Speaker 10: Paddy played again.
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  Speaker 11: The irishman just told us I didn't finish the job.
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  Speaker 2: You're in Europe.
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  Speaker 10: Here's you're in Europe.
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  Speaker 11: You're sorry Hitler didn't finish the job. Please tell us again,
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  Speaker 11: tell us again, Patty, you.
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  Speaker 1: Get the before put a bullet in your head.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, nice one.
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  Speaker 2: Pigs Now.
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  Speaker 1: I've had dealings with the woman involved in this incident.
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  Speaker 2: Sharon is a name.
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  Speaker 1: She's well known in the Melbourne Jewish community and I've
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  Speaker 1: always found her to be honest and trustworthy. She sent
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  Speaker 1: me a message explaining how all of this unfolded.
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  Speaker 11: As you can say, we were in the supermarket in Avignon,
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  Speaker 11: in the Fruit and Fished apartment, and this seemingly friendly
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  Speaker 11: man came over and approached us because my husband was
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  Speaker 11: wearing this French soccer top and he said, what's an
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  Speaker 11: Englishman doing wearing a French shirt? And my husband said
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  Speaker 11: that as we're traveling around France and he's Australian. He's
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  Speaker 11: still happy to wear the shirt, and Patty introduced himself.
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  Speaker 11: He gave our name, shook hands. Then my husband said
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  Speaker 11: in a friendly way, but I wouldn't wear the Irish shirt.
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  Speaker 11: And Patty agreed that the Irish team were crap and
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  Speaker 11: started running down the Irish soccer team, which we know
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  Speaker 11: nothing about. And I said, no, actually, it's not that.
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  Speaker 11: It's the anti Israel agenda of the Irish government. And
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  Speaker 11: Patty said, well, we all agree with that, and got
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  Speaker 11: really menacing and looked at me and said, I'm sorry
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  Speaker 11: Hitler didn't finish the job. At that point I grabbed
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  Speaker 11: my phone and started videoing the video really speaks for itself.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think the video does speak for itself, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it shows a level of you hatred that
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  Speaker 1: is frightening.
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  Speaker 2: Here it is again again.
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  Speaker 11: Did the irishman just told us they didn't finish the job.
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  Speaker 2: You're in Europe.
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  Speaker 6: Here's okay, you're in Europe.
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  Speaker 11: Orry, Hitler didn't finish the job. Please tell us again,
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  Speaker 11: tell us again, Patty, you.
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  Speaker 10: Get the before I put a bullet in your head.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, nice pigs.
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  Speaker 1: This is what Jewish people around the world are faced
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  Speaker 1: with and worse, of course, this is what even Australians
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  Speaker 1: who are Jewish can face on holidays in Europe.
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  Speaker 11: What you're seeing now on that video with Patty is
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  Speaker 11: the demonization of Jews, legitimizes violence against us and we're
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  Speaker 11: threatened every day. This is our life, this is our
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  Speaker 11: new normal.
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  Speaker 1: This clip has now started to go viral around the world.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps someone else was there, perhaps the supermarket has video,
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps someone will recognize this man.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Most likely nothing will come of this, but it highlights
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  Speaker 1: what is a huge problem here and around the world.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk again about the rise of one NAMEA and
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  Speaker 1: the prospect once absolutely fanciful, of course, of Pauline Hanson
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  Speaker 1: becoming prime minister. As unlikely as this is, it has
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  Speaker 1: to be considered because one nation is now neck and
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  Speaker 1: neck with labor in the polls. My latest News twenty
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  Speaker 1: four documentary is in twelve days time, looking at the
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  Speaker 1: battle for the right of center vote, the Fight for
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  Speaker 1: the Right it's called, and last night here on the show,
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  Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson accused me of asking a gotcha question for
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  Speaker 1: the documentary.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look, Chris, and.
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  Speaker 12: I'll tell the people now I don't know if you're
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  Speaker 12: going to put it in the interview, but you tempted
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  Speaker 12: to get me on a gotcha moment, and you know,
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  Speaker 12: to ask me who was the Prime minster of Indonesian?
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  Speaker 12: Who's the Prime Minister of Japan? And I knew it
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  Speaker 12: was Takahitsche, but I couldn't think of her name. And
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  Speaker 12: the whole fact is, you know, I'm fed up with
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  Speaker 12: the gotcha moments.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's her view, fair enough, As you know, I
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  Speaker 1: tried to let people have their say. But in my view,
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  Speaker 1: if you propose yourself as prime minister, then an understanding
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  Speaker 1: of global affairs and a working college of Australia's key
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  Speaker 1: foreign policy issues and.
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  Speaker 2: Partners are kind of critical.
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  Speaker 1: So let me show you that part of the interview
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  Speaker 1: and you can make up your own mind whether this
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  Speaker 1: is a pertinent discussion or a gotcha moment. If you
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  Speaker 1: were Prime minister, you'd have to get involved in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of foreign policy. All prime ministers do. You'd have
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  Speaker 1: to engage with our region. How would you go engaging
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  Speaker 1: with Southeast Asia in particular?
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  Speaker 12: Oh, no problem.
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  Speaker 1: So if you became Prime minister, wouldn't you want to
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  Speaker 1: visit Jakata? Fairly quickly and meet with the president.
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  Speaker 12: Now, I don't have it. I don't know if i'd say.
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  Speaker 5: In Indonesia one of our most important partners.
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  Speaker 12: It is one of our most important partners, Chris and I.
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  Speaker 12: I don't have a problem with that.
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  Speaker 5: Do you know who the president is?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 12: I don't know his name. I can't remember his name.
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  Speaker 1: You can't remember the name of the President of Indonesia Indonesia, No,
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  Speaker 1: I can't.
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  Speaker 5: What about the Prime Minister of Japan, she's.
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  Speaker 12: I can't say, I.
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  Speaker 5: Can't remember her name either.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you could tell us who the President of China
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  Speaker 1: is shipping. Then that's one out of three. This will
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  Speaker 1: be a big learning curve for you, wouldn't it.
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  Speaker 12: Well, look, I know her name. Do I remember of
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  Speaker 12: Japanese name?
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  Speaker 13: No?
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  Speaker 14: I don't.
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  Speaker 12: I'm in a position I'm not Prime minister. Am I.
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  Speaker 2: Make up your own mind.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to bring you the full doco Tuesday week.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess after that exchanged last week, my biggest
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  Speaker 1: surprise last night was that Pauline Hansen hadn't then brushed.
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  Speaker 2: Up on our knowledge.
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  Speaker 1: There was plenty in that interview, and there'll be plenty
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  Speaker 1: in the documentary, and there certainly wasn't much there that
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  Speaker 1: could be called gotcha.
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  Speaker 2: But given you mentioned those questions, have you brushed up?
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  Speaker 1: Have you found out who the President of Indonesia is?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 12: I haven't, Chris, oh dear, why do I need to?
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  Speaker 1: Well, if I was leading a political party, I'd want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure I knew such things. That's all. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you just agree. And in case you're wondering, the President
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  Speaker 1: of Indonesia is Subanto A scene here, of course, with
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Alberzi a fortnight after Albanesi's re election last year,
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  Speaker 1: and the Japanese Prime Minister who talked about a lot
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  Speaker 1: lately as Sanai Takaichi.
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  Speaker 2: They might want to.
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  Speaker 1: Forget Alberesi and he's melon jokes as quickly as possible
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  Speaker 1: for Takaichi at least, perhaps Pauline Hansen would make a
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  Speaker 1: pleasant change. Joining me is shadow Health Minister and Rustin.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: And do you think that Pauline Hanson should know that
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  Speaker 1: the President of Indonesia is Proboo Suvianto?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I can.
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  Speaker 15: I'm not going to comment on what Pauline Hanson should
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  Speaker 15: and shouldn't know, but I can assure you Angus Taylor
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  Speaker 15: would know who they were.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it's a serious proposition that Pauline Hansen
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  Speaker 1: could actually emerge as Prime minister after the next federal election.
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  Speaker 15: Well, right now, Chris, we are concentrated on making sure
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  Speaker 15: that we get our message out to Australians about what
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  Speaker 15: we stand for, and others can do as as they
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  Speaker 15: please in terms of their own desires for the future
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  Speaker 15: of their terms in this parliament. But I know that
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  Speaker 15: I'm focused on making sure that we respond to the
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  Speaker 15: needs of the people of Australia who quite frankly, are
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  Speaker 15: in a terrible situation because of the failed policies of
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  Speaker 15: this government. And today in your intro you mentioned one
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  Speaker 15: of those the fact that we've had to bail out
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  Speaker 15: Tomogo because of the failure, epic failure of this government
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  Speaker 15: when it comes to energy policy. So that's what we're
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  Speaker 15: focusing on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to go there next two and a
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  Speaker 1: half billion dollars of taxpayers money to support one aluminium smelter.
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  Speaker 1: Does the Coalition support that subsidy?
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  Speaker 15: Well, obviously, you know this was an important decision by
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  Speaker 15: the government for the workers of Tomogo, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 15: actually shift away from the fact that the taxpayers once
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  Speaker 15: again have been asked to bail out an organization because
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  Speaker 15: of the fail of that energy policy. I mean, this
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  Speaker 15: did not need to happen, Chris, if the government had
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  Speaker 15: actually focused on delivering the promise they made in the
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  Speaker 15: lead up to the twenty twenty two election, and that
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  Speaker 15: was to get energy prices down. Instead of energy prices
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  Speaker 15: coming down, they've gone up by forty percent and this
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  Speaker 15: is what we see as a result. So I think
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  Speaker 15: the person who really needs to front the camera alongside
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  Speaker 15: of Anthony Alberanezi is Chris Bowen to explain why he
• 19:23
  Speaker 15: continues to pursue an energy policy that he's causing this
• 19:26
  Speaker 15: kind of thing to have to happen.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I just can't believe it.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I call it vandalism, its national energy self harm. You
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: can't describe it any other way. When just up the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: road from tom Ago there's a massive coal fired power
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: station that's been shut down and blown up, and there's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: others scheduled to be closed down as well.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: We have the energy, we have the reliable and cheap energy.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: We've chosen to get rid of that before we have
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: a replacement.
• 19:54
  Speaker 15: Yeah, and this is the stupidity of the situation. We
• 19:57
  Speaker 15: find as it was in You know, we've got abundant
• 19:59
  Speaker 15: resource in this country in which to generate the energy
• 20:03
  Speaker 15: that this nation needs. But because of the belligerence of
• 20:07
  Speaker 15: this government to refuse to look at at the whole
• 20:09
  Speaker 15: range of energy sources that could feed into our grid,
• 20:12
  Speaker 15: we're seeing the taxpayers Australia are having to bail out
• 20:16
  Speaker 15: because of the failure of this government's policies. And of course,
• 20:19
  Speaker 15: you know, my sympathy goes out for the uncertainty of
• 20:22
  Speaker 15: the work is not just at tom Ago, but for
• 20:24
  Speaker 15: any energy intensive industry across the nation, so many of
• 20:28
  Speaker 15: which have had to have bailouts. But the reality is
• 20:31
  Speaker 15: that this is of the government's making and they should
• 20:34
  Speaker 15: be held to account, and the taxpayers of Australia should
• 20:36
  Speaker 15: be pretty annoyed that their money isn't being spent on
• 20:39
  Speaker 15: things that they want because of the failure of a
• 20:41
  Speaker 15: policy that the government refused to admit is actually failing drastically.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all borrowed money, of course, but I agree.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's the right thing to keep this industry alive.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: We need industry in this country, but it shouldn't be necessary.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: What we should have is a focus on cheap energy
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and you wouldn't need these bailouts. Of course, Sir tom
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Ogo is one of many now many still works and
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: smelting works.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Around the country that are having to be bailed out.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on the melongates stuff
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that followed Anthony Alberanezi to that announcement. Chris Men's jumped
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: in to try and help him out. The coalition followed
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: up in parliament is that it now is the issue dead,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: he won't apologize, life moves on.
• 21:25
  Speaker 15: Well, no, I don't think the issue is dead. I
• 21:28
  Speaker 15: mean this goes to the very character of the Prime
• 21:30
  Speaker 15: Minister of Australia and I know there are many women
• 21:34
  Speaker 15: who've spoken to me that quite frankly think that this
• 21:37
  Speaker 15: behavior is just flat out creepy. And the fact that
• 21:41
  Speaker 15: the Prime Minister hasn't got the decency to apologize for
• 21:46
  Speaker 15: his actions I think reflects incredibly badly on the character
• 21:51
  Speaker 15: of the man. So you know, whilst this issue may
• 21:53
  Speaker 15: well not be the subject of next week's Parliament, the
• 21:57
  Speaker 15: fact is it's a blemish on him because this isn't
• 21:59
  Speaker 15: the first time he started you know this, This is
• 22:02
  Speaker 15: this is following on from already having to apologize for
• 22:04
  Speaker 15: the lurd remarks he made about Carl Minot. So I
• 22:08
  Speaker 15: think this is something that will stay with the Prime
• 22:11
  Speaker 15: Minister forever because it's unforgivable that you say one thing
• 22:15
  Speaker 15: about the respect that he expects of women. I mean
• 22:19
  Speaker 15: read the Prime Minister's statement when he was talking about
• 22:23
  Speaker 15: the you know, the respect in twenty twenty two and
• 22:27
  Speaker 15: then he goes and does this. I mean, it is
• 22:29
  Speaker 15: it is a it's a character flaw that will taint
• 22:31
  Speaker 15: this man for the rest of his life. And as
• 22:33
  Speaker 15: I said, it's just plain creepy.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: We started on one nation I want to finish on
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the anti one nation protests across the country today, particularly
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: vigorous in Melbourne, catching out.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Our reporter there, Georgie Dickerson.
• 22:46
  Speaker 16: Have a look, as you can say, there's so many
• 22:49
  Speaker 16: students found here protesting today, similar sentiments to where Caser.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Is in.
• 23:00
  Speaker 17: Give it back, give it back, give.
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: Give it.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Just brilliant and tough stuff there from Georgie. But what
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: about these protesters and what they're getting up to.
• 23:24
  Speaker 15: And look, I mean that was completely unacceptable. I mean everybody,
• 23:30
  Speaker 15: I suppose in Australia has the right to a peaceful protest,
• 23:34
  Speaker 15: But that kind of behavior and putting the safety of
• 23:38
  Speaker 15: your reporter at risk is completely unacceptable, and you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 15: it just goes to show that we need to have
• 23:44
  Speaker 15: a more respectful debate about things we disagree on in
• 23:46
  Speaker 15: this country. And if that's where we're going, then we
• 23:50
  Speaker 15: really do need to have a very serious look at ourselves.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to worry. Thanks for joining us and I appreciate it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: And Rustin there, who's the shadow Health minister joining us
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: live from Canberra. I want to go to Singapore now
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: we'll catch up with the former Foreign Minister of this
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: great country, Alexander Downer.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Alexandra.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Want to get your thoughts first up on a joint
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: message sent by thirty nations including Australia and the UK
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to call out the use of capital punishment in Iran.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: What's prompted this now a lot of countries who frankly,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: have been I think more quiet than they should have
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: been about the way Iran has been treating dissenters over
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the past months.
• 24:29
  Speaker 13: Well, I don't know who initiated them in the message,
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: whether it was the Americans who did it or someone else,
• 24:38
  Speaker 13: but it is welcome and it's about time the West
• 24:42
  Speaker 13: stood up to Iran and exposed the nature of the
• 24:46
  Speaker 13: Iranian regime. So you're right. I mean, this is the
• 24:50
  Speaker 13: first time they've done this, and this presumably is a
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: response to the grotesque public hangings of of Iranian dissidents
• 25:02
  Speaker 13: in town squares recently, but this has been going on
• 25:07
  Speaker 13: for years since nineteen seventy nine. Really, this regime, the
• 25:15
  Speaker 13: particularly the Republican Guard, have been just brutal in their
• 25:19
  Speaker 13: treatment of the public.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to wonder about Australia's relationship with Iran.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: It's been useful I think for Australia and get your
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this. Australia and allies for Australia to have
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: maintained an embassy in Tehran throughout the last decades. Obviously
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the Americans are not there. But when you consider the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: way Iran threats, threatens and intimidates Iranian expats in countries
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: like Australia, the role they played in the fire bombing
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: in Melbourne last year. Of course the ambassador has been expelled.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: But should Australia be considering ending its diplomatic relations altogether
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: with a run Well.
• 26:00
  Speaker 13: I wouldn't do that because it would achieve nothing. It's
• 26:04
  Speaker 13: just a protest which they would shrug their shoulders and
• 26:10
  Speaker 13: move on. The great advantage of US having had an
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: embassy there over the last few years is that we've
• 26:19
  Speaker 13: been able to understand the sentiment on the ground, do
• 26:23
  Speaker 13: reporting about the situation in Iran from first hand the experience,
• 26:28
  Speaker 13: and our ambassador in Iran has been making visits to
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: the United States once or twice a year to brief
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: the Americans on his or her perspective. Sometimes the ambassador's
• 26:42
  Speaker 13: been her perspective of what is happening on the ground
• 26:47
  Speaker 13: in Iran. So the Australian embassy has been particularly helpful
• 26:54
  Speaker 13: in exposing the nature of the regime and understanding the
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: nature of the regime. And I don't think if you
• 27:01
  Speaker 13: had no embassy and no officials that you could do
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: that anything like as well, because journalists does simply don't
• 27:09
  Speaker 13: have the access that diplomats are able to get.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about American politics and an unusual
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: development talking about journalists. The President's press secretary a very
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: prominent person in the US because in the White House,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the press secretary is effectively a spokesperson for the president.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Caroline Levett is giving the job a why let's have
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: a look at some of the highlights of their time
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: in the job.
• 27:34
  Speaker 16: Democrats behaving like children would be the least surprising thing
• 27:37
  Speaker 16: of the night. Of course, the president supports peaceful protest.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: What a stupid question for?
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: Can he demolish anything he wants?
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: What do you think that rubble is?
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: How did that rubble get there?
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Great?
• 27:46
  Speaker 16: So I'm asking, with all due respect, only a reporter
• 27:49
  Speaker 16: from the New York Times would ask a question like that.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Sean, I follow up on what you would?
• 27:53
  Speaker 16: Not go ahead, Philip Feelin.
• 27:55
  Speaker 18: I'm not taking your follow up, Philip.
• 27:56
  Speaker 17: I have a follow on something you just said.
• 27:57
  Speaker 16: Though, Caroline, that's Caitlin. I'm not taking your follow up, Philip.
• 28:01
  Speaker 14: Go ahead.
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: The President's claims.
• 28:02
  Speaker 18: Just don't match up with what's happening on the ground.
• 28:04
  Speaker 12: I would encourage you, as a reporter to go on
• 28:06
  Speaker 12: the ground and to take a look at for yourself.
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: Your understanding is wrong.
• 28:09
  Speaker 17: Have you read the full plan?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I love her style, Alexander. She's not thirty, she's just
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: had her second child. She's leaving that job.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: But I'd be.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Surprised if we didn't see her back in the political
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: field at some time.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 28:23
  Speaker 13: I think she's been an absolute star in that job,
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: very much reflecting the Trump style, but with a little
• 28:31
  Speaker 13: bit more grace than the President sometimes shows. But she's
• 28:37
  Speaker 13: also amusing and combative. She doesn't put up with bullshit
• 28:42
  Speaker 13: from the journalists who are overwhelmingly anti Trump an anti
• 28:49
  Speaker 13: Republican then nearly all signed up supporters at the Democratic Party.
• 28:55
  Speaker 13: She has been really excellent and I agree with you
• 28:58
  Speaker 13: you'll see her in politics and different guys as over
• 29:03
  Speaker 13: the next few years. She will definitely go to the Congress,
• 29:07
  Speaker 13: if not the Senate, and who knows beyond that.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Alexander enjoys Singapore. We'll catch up
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: with you next week. We've got to get to a break.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: On the other side of that, I want to get
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: into this problem of e bikes around our cities.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: They are so dangerous.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I hate nanny state laws, but we've got to do
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: more to crack down on them. As you know, I've
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: been worried about e bikes and e scooters for a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: long while. We hear about an incident almost every other
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: day involving riders on unlicensed bikes or going at high speed,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and often without helmets. Have a look at some of
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the recent news reports.
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: No limits, no brains, and no you're not imagining things.
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: These e bike hooons are heading for the Harbor Bridge,
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: some riding with no helmet in their school uniform, risking
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: lives and breaking.
• 30:00
  Speaker 19: In a separate incident yesterday at nearby Miranda, e bike
• 30:04
  Speaker 19: has discharged a fire extinguisher, making this netball court their
• 30:08
  Speaker 19: own mass rideouts also taking over roads here. A convoy
• 30:12
  Speaker 19: of more than fifty e bikes cruise through Crinullo two
• 30:16
  Speaker 19: weeks ago Long Reef golf course was the peak of
• 30:19
  Speaker 19: the day.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: One Australian study identifying four and a half thousand emergency
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: Department presentations linked to e scooters between twenty twenty two
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: and twenty twenty five.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Worrying staff. For different states, we've got different approaches on this.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Back in February, the New South Wales government made a
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: big song of dance about seizing and crushing illegal high
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: powered e bikes, but as the Telegraph has report, not
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a single bike has been destroyed since those laws were announced.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I want to bring in New South Wales Shadow Transport
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Minister Natalie Ward.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. Natalie thanks.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Apart from all those escapades and injuries, there have been
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: deaths around the country from these bikes, people riding them
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: or crashing into other people.
• 31:00
  Speaker 20: Four deaths last year on over two hundred and thirty
• 31:03
  Speaker 20: three serious injuries. I mean, and it's only escalating. And
• 31:07
  Speaker 20: this is the problem. We've been calling on the government
• 31:10
  Speaker 20: to do something for over two years and during that
• 31:13
  Speaker 20: time the problem's got worse and worse and worse. We
• 31:16
  Speaker 20: know pedestrians are scared. Police can't do anything, Council officers
• 31:19
  Speaker 20: can't do anything. It's just a wild West out there,
• 31:22
  Speaker 20: and the kids do it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: But the state governed in New South Wales has said
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: it's going to crush illegal bikes, a big announcement. Why
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: haven't they followed through? Are they no illegal bikes? Have
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: enough found any?
• 31:34
  Speaker 20: There are plenty of illegal bikes out there, and there
• 31:36
  Speaker 20: are legal bikes with bad riders on them for which
• 31:39
  Speaker 20: nothing is being done. We supported this legislation in May
• 31:43
  Speaker 20: six months ago, and we were happy to do so.
• 31:46
  Speaker 20: But what is incredibly disappointing and almost terrifying is that
• 31:51
  Speaker 20: this legislation is not in force yet. So big announcement
• 31:54
  Speaker 20: from the government and the only bike that's been crushed
• 31:58
  Speaker 20: since that announcement is the one that they had for
• 32:00
  Speaker 20: the press conference.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Let's have look, here's the minister at the time making
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: the announcement. We're drawing a line.
• 32:06
  Speaker 14: If you're riding one of these illegal souped up motorbikes,
• 32:09
  Speaker 14: your bike is at risk of being seized and crushed.
• 32:12
  Speaker 14: We hope to crush one bike and educate a thousand,
• 32:15
  Speaker 14: but we'll keep going until people get the message.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Well, he hope to crush one bike, he said, he
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: hasn't crushed one yet.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: That's a worry. Now you've got another idea, and this
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: makes eminent sense to me.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: The bikes should be registered so that to police concerned citizens'
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: traffic videos can actually see who the bike belongs to.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Well, that's right.
• 32:36
  Speaker 20: If you can't identify the rider and spot the behavior,
• 32:40
  Speaker 20: you can't stop it. So we say that it's the
• 32:43
  Speaker 20: rider's behaving badly, as we've seen on the golf courses
• 32:46
  Speaker 20: across the Hub of Bridge, terrorizing people on netball courts.
• 32:50
  Speaker 20: We say, if there's a simple, small, cheap and easy
• 32:52
  Speaker 20: number plates on the back of the bike, you can
• 32:55
  Speaker 20: identify that rider. If you're a pedestrian, you can say okay,
• 32:58
  Speaker 20: ABC one, two three into the Council of the Police
• 33:01
  Speaker 20: and that identifies the problem straight away. And I can
• 33:04
  Speaker 20: tell you as a mum, if I got to knock
• 33:06
  Speaker 20: on my door from the police saying, oh, your kid
• 33:08
  Speaker 20: was out there terrorizing people last night, I would enforce
• 33:11
  Speaker 20: that and take that bike away straight away. That doesn't
• 33:13
  Speaker 20: cost the taxpayer anything. It's a cheap and easy system
• 33:17
  Speaker 20: that could have been in place.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: People have to pay for.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: This is effectively a registration. You pay at the point
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: of sale to have a registrator. Any insurance link to that, well, that's.
• 33:26
  Speaker 20: A matter for government. I'm not in government, but you
• 33:28
  Speaker 20: need the powers of government to look at that, and
• 33:30
  Speaker 20: we would support that because we know that there are
• 33:33
  Speaker 20: insurance issues when people get hit and no one pays
• 33:36
  Speaker 20: serious injuries. But what we've proposed right now as an
• 33:39
  Speaker 20: opposition and Liberals and Nationals say is a cheap, easy
• 33:42
  Speaker 20: play it through say service New South Wales like you
• 33:45
  Speaker 20: do phishing license, boat license or the one on the
• 33:48
  Speaker 20: back of your bikes, on the back of your car.
• 33:50
  Speaker 20: They're really simple and they're in place right now. We
• 33:53
  Speaker 20: think that could be good. But saying you're going to
• 33:55
  Speaker 20: crush bikes. I mean, the only thing that's been crushed
• 33:57
  Speaker 20: by this government is their credibility, and we just say
• 33:59
  Speaker 20: this cannot go on.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Tell me about this.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I see people as school kids even riding these bikes
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: that you know, thirty forty k's weaving in.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Amongst the peak our traffic all the time. It's so dangerous.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I worry about those kids. Now, these are effectively motorbikes.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: They are just motorbikes.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: It's just that their engine happens to be electric. Why
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: are they just considered motorbikes? So they need to be
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: registered and you need a license to ride them.
• 34:24
  Speaker 20: Well, I agree these are dangerous. They're high powered, they're
• 34:27
  Speaker 20: very heavy, so the breaking is different. Kids don't know
• 34:31
  Speaker 20: the road rules. They're very excited. You get a bunch
• 34:33
  Speaker 20: of boys together and suddenly they're having a great old time.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: With no experience or knowledge of the rules.
• 34:38
  Speaker 20: That's it, and they don't you know, they don't have
• 34:40
  Speaker 20: the frontal load formed. They're having a wonderful time, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 20: it's hugely dangerous, and the surgeons are telling us that
• 34:45
  Speaker 20: from the emergency rooms. They're the ones that have to
• 34:47
  Speaker 20: clean up this mess. I mean, they should be registered
• 34:50
  Speaker 20: there should be a really simple education way and get
• 34:54
  Speaker 20: those bikes off the road, but educate the.
• 34:55
  Speaker 21: Kids as well.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Thanks Natalie, I appreciate its Natalie Wood who's the shadow
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: trend Sport Minister in New South Wales. Big problem around
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: the country. We're going to get this one right before
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: too many kids end up in all sorts of strife
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: and worse.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Got to take a break.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: On the other side, we're going to get back to
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: private health insurance and the way older Australians are about
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to get ripped off. Plus Mark Robinson on some different
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: sorts of footy this week, let's head back down to
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: canber I want to catch up with the Shadow Regional
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Health Minister and Webster and thanks for joining us.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: An is sure.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I really want to get your thoughts on because I
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: know it's a concern to a lot of Australians over
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: sixty five and that's those changes in the budget that
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Labor announced. It reduces the private health rebate for those
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: over sixty five who used to get a bit of
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: extra help that's disappeared. What sort of concern have you
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: picked up around the country, especially Regional Australia when it
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: comes to those changes.
• 35:53
  Speaker 21: Thanks Chris, it's a massive issue. What we have people
• 35:57
  Speaker 21: who are over sixty five have often been paying their
• 36:00
  Speaker 21: private health insurance for decades, thirty forty years. It has
• 36:06
  Speaker 21: been in place for some time that once they reach
• 36:09
  Speaker 21: sixty five that they would receive a rebate on that
• 36:12
  Speaker 21: payment because they the government coalition thought it was a
• 36:17
  Speaker 21: good idea that those people remain in private health because
• 36:20
  Speaker 21: if they drop their cover and they go into the
• 36:23
  Speaker 21: public health system, then they are frequently denied a hip
• 36:27
  Speaker 21: replacement near replacement cataracts for a couple of years. It's
• 36:31
  Speaker 21: just in their interest and it's also in taxpayer interests
• 36:35
  Speaker 21: that they stay in private health insurance. We have so
• 36:39
  Speaker 21: many people around Australia who are deeply concerned about this
• 36:43
  Speaker 21: and who are saying that they will not be able
• 36:45
  Speaker 21: to continue to pay their health insurance because they're now
• 36:50
  Speaker 21: pensioners or they're self funded retirees on an ongoing low
• 36:54
  Speaker 21: income to get them through and they will have to
• 36:57
  Speaker 21: stop it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 36:58
  Speaker 21: I've met today with National Seniors Australia. They say that
• 37:04
  Speaker 21: the Treasury so called modeling and we know, you know
• 37:07
  Speaker 21: Labor Party has sought modeling in the past. Maybe reputec
• 37:10
  Speaker 21: comes to mind, which is not worth the paper it
• 37:13
  Speaker 21: was written on. But they say that the modeling says
• 37:16
  Speaker 21: only forty four thousand people will be impacted. Well, National
• 37:19
  Speaker 21: Seniors Australia have done their surveys. They say the number
• 37:24
  Speaker 21: will be closer to four hundred thousand older Australians who
• 37:28
  Speaker 21: will reduce their cover and potentially two hundred and seventy
• 37:32
  Speaker 21: thousand Australians who will drop out of their cover altogether.
• 37:35
  Speaker 21: This is not good for older Australians and it is
• 37:38
  Speaker 21: certainly not good for the public health system either.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Well you're right, it just goes back onto the public
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: health system, so it's a lose lose, and the numbers
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: are important. Of course, if four hundred thousand people are affected,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: it makes it even more dramatic. But no matter how
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: many are affected, it's terrible for these people, as you say,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: on fixed incomes or largely fixed incomes, suffering from increased
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: electricity prices, the cost of living and these changes I
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: was reading could add between four hundred to one thousand
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: dollars a year to their insurance cost.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: It's not a small number, no, it's not.
• 38:12
  Speaker 21: And the numbers that we've been provided are closer to
• 38:16
  Speaker 21: eight hundred dollars for an individual and over sixteen.
• 38:19
  Speaker 10: Hundred dollars for a couple.
• 38:21
  Speaker 21: So it is a huge impost on people who are
• 38:24
  Speaker 21: struggling to pay their energy bills, thank you, Labor, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 21: struggling to pay for their groceries and their fuel and
• 38:32
  Speaker 21: now their health which is critical for them to be
• 38:35
  Speaker 21: able to stay at home. Now Labor have said that
• 38:39
  Speaker 21: this is also that they can purchase another five thousand
• 38:43
  Speaker 21: aged residential age care beds.
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: The fact is.
• 38:46
  Speaker 21: People want to remain at home if they can't get
• 38:49
  Speaker 21: primary healthcare, if they can't get you know, the cataracts done,
• 38:53
  Speaker 21: the knee surgery, whatever done to help them stay home,
• 38:56
  Speaker 21: and if they can't access support at home, then they
• 39:01
  Speaker 21: will be needing those residential age care beds which are
• 39:04
  Speaker 21: far more expensive. Like Labour's logic on this is absolutely
• 39:09
  Speaker 21: hard to fathom.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us out. I appreciate it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: It's an issue I wanted to make sure we got
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to because it affects a lot of people and we
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: haven't covered it much on this program so far. I
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: want to get to Sport Now with sports broadcaster Mark
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Robinson and catch up with a few different kinds of footy,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: even though we've got some cricket happening in Darwin today
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: where the Ossies haven't done too well. Robert, I want
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this concussion issue.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: It's big because it affects the.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: League union, Ossie rules, the NFL, everything, and it's broken
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: up into a it's a big yarn and Ossie rules
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: at the moment because of Jake Colin Jazzny from Geelong
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and there looking to waver away his rights on head
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: injuries and he's not playing anymore, and the scandals ongoing,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: isn't it.
• 39:53
  Speaker 18: Yeah, absolutely, it's on going. And there's so many layers
• 39:56
  Speaker 18: to lease and I hate the word layers, but al
• 39:58
  Speaker 18: say that's another cliche. Rabbit holes everywhere. Main person we
• 40:02
  Speaker 18: should be concerned about this. Jake Caldashni, he has had
• 40:08
  Speaker 18: multiple concussions. He went to the AFL concussion panel. They
• 40:12
  Speaker 18: didn't say you should stop, they didn't say you can
• 40:15
  Speaker 18: keep going. They gave them silly amber, which basically puts
• 40:18
  Speaker 18: it back on him. He wanted to play Geelong. I've
• 40:20
  Speaker 18: got together with him and others, including discussions with the AFL.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: A sort of waiver was signed.
• 40:28
  Speaker 18: There's going to be governance issues, which they will be
• 40:31
  Speaker 18: fine before we know that, but there's there's other factors
• 40:34
  Speaker 18: and a lot of it, some of its morality, you know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 18: should they do this, should they not do that? So
• 40:40
  Speaker 18: that's going to pose a few problems. And the biggest issue,
• 40:44
  Speaker 18: of course, outside Jake's you know, injury, the biggest issue
• 40:51
  Speaker 18: is Craig Drumming the AFL commission. He was a Geelong
• 40:54
  Speaker 18: president at the time in investigation has begun. My issue
• 41:00
  Speaker 18: about calling for an investigation is will the people the
• 41:05
  Speaker 18: case will interview? Will they tell the truth? I mean,
• 41:10
  Speaker 18: do you have to sign a stat deck? I mean
• 41:11
  Speaker 18: how farough is this investigation? And how does he prove
• 41:15
  Speaker 18: if people are lying or not telling the truth or
• 41:18
  Speaker 18: telling half the truth. So this has got a bit
• 41:21
  Speaker 18: to play out, but it's this has been a long
• 41:24
  Speaker 18: time coming.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Chris.
• 41:25
  Speaker 18: You're a sports person, you follow AFL. We know about
• 41:30
  Speaker 18: rugby league, rugby union.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Concussion has been.
• 41:33
  Speaker 18: A major issue for so long and I think the
• 41:36
  Speaker 18: AFL has dropped the ball on this for many, many years.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: And I think the main problem here is transparency. If
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you're doing stuff like this, it's got to be out there.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Everybody's got to know about it. It's too important an
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: issue for there be some secret deal around one player,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and that's what's going to everyone into trouble. I think
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I want to stick with footy briefly before we go
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: on to some big soccer news, and that is with
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the job OUs Frasier declaring that he.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Wants to Carlton the coaching job. Have a look at this.
• 42:05
  Speaker 22: It's pretty clear that the supporters want him.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Pretty good endorsement, isn't it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 18: Oh, it's fantastic, and that's the tribal.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Isn't going off.
• 42:24
  Speaker 18: This is the best football story of the year for sure,
• 42:28
  Speaker 18: Field clearly of the I think I told you a
• 42:32
  Speaker 18: month ago. They've got to give it to Josh Fraser.
• 42:34
  Speaker 18: The intriguing bit now is Chris if they don't give
• 42:38
  Speaker 18: it to him, now that he says I want to
• 42:41
  Speaker 18: get the job.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: If they don't give it to him.
• 42:43
  Speaker 23: Oh, I can't wait to read here the reasons why,
• 42:48
  Speaker 23: because there'll be dumb fanning decision to go with another
• 42:52
  Speaker 23: assistant coaches.
• 42:53
  Speaker 18: I think there's three in it who haven't actually coached.
• 42:56
  Speaker 18: See this guy's.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Coach, And I tell you what if they didn't give
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: it to him, your mob lessend and should be right
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: there knocking on his door.
• 43:06
  Speaker 18: Well, that'll be announced this week in the coming game.
• 43:09
  Speaker 18: All right, the inclent coaching situation.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Great, we'll keep an eye out for that one. I'm
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: in the Herd camp, but we'll talk about that next week.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I want you to.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Share this socceros news with us. One of the young
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: soccerhos got himself a big deal into the Premier League.
• 43:24
  Speaker 18: Yeah, he's signing with He's not in your old queenslanda
• 43:27
  Speaker 18: signing with whole little city. I don't know if you've
• 43:30
  Speaker 18: been the whole I have. It's not the most picturesque
• 43:33
  Speaker 18: at Eastside Town. I'm near the North Sea there it
• 43:37
  Speaker 18: gets a big cold. But he's the first, He's not
• 43:40
  Speaker 18: the first. He's a gallant now and be the only
• 43:42
  Speaker 18: Australian soccer u to be playing in the Premier League.
• 43:45
  Speaker 18: A thirty three million dollar transfer for America. He's a
• 43:50
  Speaker 18: center back. It's great to have because what happens people
• 43:53
  Speaker 18: who don't follow closely the Premier League and not rustled
• 43:57
  Speaker 18: on Liverpool. Man, you Leeds, whatever you are, you start.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Following this young feller.
• 44:02
  Speaker 18: Yeah, for sure, I'll get a lot more eyes, certainly
• 44:06
  Speaker 18: from Australia on how they're.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Performing thirty three million bucks. I reckon I'd switch to
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the ABC for thirty three million.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Ohm bucker. Thanks for joining me. Robert Marke Robinson there
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: with the sport this week. We better get to a break.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: On the other side, I'm going to catch up with
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: the other Mark, Mark Nicholson.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: We'll talk but he's now a prospective politician.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Will talk to him about to crime in Melbourne and
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: plenty more lads cross to Melbourne and catch up with
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Mark Nicholson from step Mate Studios, but also one Nation
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Upper House candidate.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Now, how's it going.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: How's your first week as a political candidate been?
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Mate?
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Pretty extraordinary, It's it's it's remarkably different, you know, with
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: all these protests that are going on in Melbourne as well,
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: with all these kids screaming out for you know, the
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: death of Pauline Hanson and go to Hell. It's it's
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: been a different week for me because now I'm suddenly
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: amongst this.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Group that they're calling for so well come too. Yes,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: veryparent for me.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: They reckon, you're a Nazi. Let's first go to crime
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: in Melbourne. More broadly, the state government there under the
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: new premier Ben Carroll cracking down supposedly with protective Service officers,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the sort of police you have when you don't have police.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what he and the commissioner
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: have had to say.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Victorians deserve to feel safe where they shop, where they
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: work and where they live.
• 45:36
  Speaker 24: So they have every piece of equipment firearms, tasers, spray
• 45:42
  Speaker 24: that our frontline officers have. So the pso's training takes
• 45:45
  Speaker 24: eleven weeks, we can get them and deploy them quicker.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: So this is sort of extra police, sort of provided
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: quicker and easier.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Is it a solution, mate?
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: I think I had the same reaction as most tour
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: ends today and that was gee, thanks Ben, one hundred
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: and fifty PSOs.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: Thanks a lot.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: That's that's like the equivalent of spitting on someone who's
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: on fire. Crime is out of control in Melbourne. It
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: just shows how out of touch these people are, you know.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I think I saw the stats the other day. Machete
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: attacks have tripled in the last four years. Krjackings and
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: car thefters doubled in the last four years.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: It's an old adage.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: You know that you have as much crime in society
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: as you're willing to tolerate, and under the Labor government
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: we've been made to tolerate a hell of a lot
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: of crime. So how couldetas BIG's got to happen?
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: How could machete attacks have gone up because they had
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: those boxes where you can hand in your machetes.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: I know, mate, those machete bins must have been so effective.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Why didn't they hand them in? It must would have
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: been crazy if not for those machete bins.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Talking about crime in Melbourne, unruly scenes. I don't want
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: to accuse anyone of crimes, but the protests got a
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: bit uglier in Melbourne today than elsewhere. They were anti
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: one and anti Pauline Handsome protests have a look.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Racist, sexist, andy queer. Are you any of those things? Mark?
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: No, mate, As Barnaby said, we're the gayest party, don't
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: ever forget that. No, I mean, I don't know's there's
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: something really unsettling about those images.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Like I was a kid once, I would have taken
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: the day off to go protest against ice cream, to
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: go in the city and swear for the day. But
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I just wish these kids understood how much Pauline Hansen
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: thinks about them, how much she cares about their future,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: how much she's fighting for their future. I really think
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: a lot of their anger is completely misguided. I really
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: wish and knowing Pauline Hanson has you do and how
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: much he actually talks about the future generations and wants
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: to make it. I just find this really sad that
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: they've completely misdirected their anger.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to some of what they've had
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: This is I don't like what she says against immigration.
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: Well here to say no.
• 48:13
  Speaker 16: To the fascist far right policies of Pauline Handsome.
• 48:17
  Speaker 11: Protesting for what's right, and like what's wrong with what
• 48:21
  Speaker 11: she's doing, just.
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: How she acts and stuff like as my son says,
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: she is racist, sexist and a Nazi and just no
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: one really wants as a president or not president like minister.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I find it a bit sad. Mark.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm all for a great political debate, but fascist, nazi, racist,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: this is what we're down to. Nobody seems to have
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: an issue based in reality.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: It's just those sorts of slurs.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's clear they they don't have any
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: clue what they're really talking about, Like it's it's the
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: one's talking about her being the president. It doesn't make sense,
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: and that's I think that's what's you know, the glaring
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: obvious part of this is that they've been indoctrinated with
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: this stuff and they're being used and manipulated just like
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: a terrorist organization would. That these kids are being just
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: sent out to do the bidding of what really is
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: just the socialist left takeover of the education system here
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: in Victoria and around the country. It's it's really sad.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Now one of these protests is bravely covered in a
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: face mask, will band down and decided to steal, allegedly
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: steal some Sky News twenty four equipment today, But our
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: reporter Georgie Dickinson was up to the task.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Check this out.
• 49:37
  Speaker 16: As you can say, there's so many students found near
• 49:40
  Speaker 16: protesting today, similar sentiment to where caser is it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 17: Give it back, give it back, give a fuck, give
• 49:54
  Speaker 17: it buck give she saw my micropack.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now, Georgie did show herself to be made of
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: steel there, but no woman in the workplace ever should
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: have to experience that sort of intimidation and grappling. You know,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: they talk about sexist fascist, what sort of behavior is that, mate,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: This is classic stuff in Melbourne.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: This is what I mean, This is what has been encouraged.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: This is the sort of behavior that has been tolerated.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: This person's probably already done that plenty of times before.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: It is probably on bail having done it, been let
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: down by our criminal justice system. But good on Georgie
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: that she's got that. She showed that one nation spirit.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: She wasn't letting go. She went and chased after that microphone.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: That's good stuff from Georgie.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Well done.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I was going to talk to you about the doco
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: because you're in my doco, The Fight for the Right too.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: We might mention it next week. Mark, thanks for joining
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: us again. Magnificent live from Melbourne. Now that's all I've
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: got for you. This week has been a busy week.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: There'll be plenty next week too. I'll see you. Then,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: here's Peter Kredline.