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Rancid · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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The podcast where we try to get you into a band.
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Today's band is rancid and we'll talk about this in a second
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because somebody called rancid garbage and I disagree.
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I disagree, you know, maybe they're not my favorite band but
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like garbage incorrect, very incorrect.
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I don't know the actual order of this but it got placed into the
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document as Randy, you put them on the board, so we're going to
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go with you first. Randy rancid.
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Why it was either me or John? It doesn't doesn't goes on the
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board before even we were, was it?
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Oh yeah, so somebody must have maybe a bump.
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Somebody off, who it was up for grabs, then why rancid?
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Um, you know, I had a love-hate relationship with this band for
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a while, and we were just talking before we started this
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and Like that time period from 2001 through like, you know,
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mid-2000s up till like 2010, maybe like it just got bad for
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them and in the sense and maybe it like Tim Armstrong
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specifically because he was just doing, he was basically he
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forced himself on every record to do like cameos and then
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transplants and then indestructible came out and then
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he, you know, inviting Good Charlotte on too.
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Music video and it just it was a bad look.
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Especially at the time, it's 2003.
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And I'm junior year of high school and I'm just like, not
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having it. I hate everything that has to do
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with all these, you know, emo pop, punk bands, like Simple
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Plan, and all that. And you know, I can, I can I can
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grow up and kind of laugh at that now, but it was just one of
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those things, you know, the wall was divided and it kind of felt
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like, you know, Tim Armstrong, turned heel.
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Bit where he kind of went to the side that I was really resenting
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and I really didn't appreciate that at all.
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But overall, I I like this band. I can even say that I love this
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band and ways they're, you know, I think what's important about
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them is kind of where they came from and how they all developed
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obviously coming off of Operation, Ivy and then
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developing with with Lars as well.
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And you know that it's a lot of what makes rancid rancid is and
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out, come the wolves. It's one of the best records
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from the not, not just Punk, records is one of the best
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records of the 90s. It's a perfect record up and
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down and I you know, just it's it's tough to it's tough to
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explain. I guess, because their whole
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discogs is just like every album has Songs on something like
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that. Like the 2224 something.
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And it's, I'll be honest with you.
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I my intake of anything that wasn't.
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Let's go and and out, come the wolves.
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I know I'm jumping to section here, but I don't really have
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much to say on this. I could pass it pass the Baton
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but, you know, I'm not gonna do that.
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Like the self-titled record the Rancid Life Won't Wait.
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I knew bits and pieces of those songs, but I was just very, very
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high on those two middle records and that kind of led me to
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Ranson, I guess. Part of it was, you know, try to
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ReDiscover them and, you know, try to give him another chance.
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Because it's been a long time since that Good Charlotte video.
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So but they are, you know, one of love, the Scott infusion that
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they have and and they're obviously coming from Operation
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Ivy like very influenced by that.
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You know, Matt Freeman is one of the best bass players on the
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planet. I can go on and on and on.
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And that's basically why we're doing Branson today, I suppose.
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So I'm putting words into Randy's mouth here.
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But uh Tim Armstrong you go to hell.
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Straight to hell. No no no.
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Like in 2002-2003. Yeah but dude I was I was doing
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the heel turn for you. That's what he said, the Hogan
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You together and moving on to John wrestling on been a very
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long time. I'm gonna give Justin a lot of
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credit for doing a clash segue there with straight to hell
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because you kind of have to talk about The Clash.
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When you talk about rancid, you know, kind of like we're Randy's
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a coming off Operation Ivy, one of the most beloved you know,
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punk bands of all time. You know, everyone was kind of
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wondering like what Tim was Tim and Matt we're going to do next
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and you know my history with rancid starts a little Around
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like the, let's go era and I remember having salvation was
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the was the first thing I saw and just loved it immediately.
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Like, here's like an energetic, punk rock band and like, rancid
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is one of the, like, the big four punk bands of the 90s talk
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about like, Bad Religion, No Effects rancid Green Day.
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Like that's basically that list I'd Epitaph records list you for
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you know if you get their rancid like played Saturday Night Live
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like they were on the radio they were they were big.
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For a while. Around the out come the wolves
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era and we are kind of sticking to their to their 90's, records
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up until that rancid 2000 record.
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So it's kind of the classic era of stuff and they these records
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have a great transition because that, you know, the ska stuff
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does start to come in on out come the wolves, but the first
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two are really good. Punk, rock.
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And I really features. Matt Freeman a lot more than
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they would later on. And, you know, like Randy said,
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like, The best bass players in punk rock.
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I mean there's one song that he's that he's feature on there
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we're going to talk about this just mind-blowing and you know
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rants it is is a band. That's they have an interesting
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history. They mean they like The Clash.
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They mean they're at the heart of it.
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They're just like a really good rock and roll band.
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That writes these really anthemic kind of catchy songs
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and yet it's kind of dressed up, you know, they got a lot of
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attention for the big. Hawks and the chains and like
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looking punk rock. I think a lot of people you
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know, discounted them for being like oh they look you know that
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it's like a fashion thing but at the heart of it they're just a
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really good rock and roll band and they continue on like to
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this day like we were talking like they were touring early
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this year and like I was looking at some of the setlist and like
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man they're playing all the classic stuff.
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Everything you want to hear and and they're, they're just at the
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heart of it, a really good, anthemic, rock and roll band.
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So you're stepping in here for the first time Bradley into into
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a heavy one. Like there's there's a lot to go
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through here. So walk me through it.
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Why is it? Why it was rancid.
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The first one, well, rancid was the first one for me by default
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because a lot of the other bands I would have liked to
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participate with it already been done but fair but no no, I got
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in rancid actually, I got in a rancid, a little bit just before
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indestructible. So I have a soft spot for some
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songs on indestructible. Well, not that it really would
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have played into this too much because I'm sure there was so
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many good songs from the previous albums, that I don't
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think any of those songs would have made it anyways.
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But no. Yeah like around 2,000 or so.
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I was you know really starting to get into getting into them
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and you know going to like the Vans Warped Tour and things like
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that and they were one of the Bands I wanted to make sure I
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checked out. Yeah.
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And then I just like, you know, I kind of almost work my way
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backwards through the the catalog a little bit.
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Obviously I started with out and Out Come the That's where like
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that was the kind of the stepping stone for me.
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Someone had given it to me. Pass it along, really got into
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it and then kind of started working my way backwards from
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that. And then like I said,
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indestructible came out, I didn't mind it.
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But then I mainly focused on, you know, all the stuff before
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that. Anyway, so yeah, I'm just
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excited and, you know, to talk about them with you guys.
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So, rancid is one of those per if bands for me like, like John
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mentioned. They were there big for a
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moment. So it's like not like, I'm not
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familiar and my friend DJ was a huge rancid fan.
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I remember him listening to 2000 like all the time but they were
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a band that was just right there on the prayer for me.
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Like I never I never made the dive and never made the effort
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to listen to any record. So you know what we chose here
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while was you know dramatically short of the discogs also still
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somehow 102 songs So we'll talk about that in a second, but like
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I'll say this, you know, before we start diving into song by
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song, type stuff, surprisingly this is not it's not long but
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it's not good to listen to in a lump sum.
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I think I should have what I should have done because it's
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not a lot is Jump. I think easily, I could have
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jumped between bands, listen to a record.
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Listen to something else. Come back, listen to the next
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record. I think I would have enjoyed it
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even more. That's not to say, I didn't
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enjoy it. I just think it's a lot of the
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same stuff and I always add tag that.
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That's not a bad thing. They're very good at what they
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do. But even though it's only four
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hours, I think it was a lot of the same thing that made it
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really hard to decipher between. So, with that knowledge, Randy,
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as you select your training you You dove into this a little bit?
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Like did you have a game plan coming in or I had 10 songs
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right away that were in like right away without even
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thinking, I just I just wrote them down and I knew that there
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was no there's no change in my mind at all and hopefully a lot
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of those songs will be in play today.
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Pretty well. I bet I'm gonna guess they will
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be. Yeah, I yeah those back back in
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records and the first self-titled.
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One like there's a jobs, right? There's a lot of Matt Freeman
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singing very early on. It's very interesting.
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It and my only real memory of, Matt Freeman, singing was the no
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effect split where he did don't call me white.
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So that's, you know, I thought that was kind of a joke, but,
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you know, it's, it is what it is.
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And, you know, Lars, you know, made huge contributions
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obviously to the band afterwards and, you know, some of the best
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songs come from Lars frederiksen.
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Even like I was just thinking about it.
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Ransom 2000, has tons of songs that could have been translated
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to Laura's in the bastards. Basically the same exact thing.
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Those last two records. Yeah I'm listening to the record
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up and down, it was really hard to say.
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Whoa, that one I kind of had to go back and be like okay well I
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heard something I like than that and let's do it again, either
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like well okay. And maybe have a like it as
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much. I was like, all right, it's
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enough. Enough.
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It's enough to keep it around and maybe it will sort of seep
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in after a while and I actually had a tough time figuring out
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what my last five were going to be.
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I guess because what ended up happening is that, you know, the
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two records that I love still had songs left over that.
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I felt like I needed to pick and then the other records where I
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didn't have as much you know, representation I was trying for
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it. So, you know, I needed those
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those needed a couple listens for me to be like, all right,
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now I'm used to this now I know what I like out of this and, you
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know, figure out what you like out of the three or four that
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you pushed on to the next level. But it was it was it was one of
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the tougher ones that have done especially due to like not due
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to trying to figure it out due to liking a lot of it and just
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trying to Figure out what. What good I had, what good songs
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I had to leave out, you know. There was a lot of stuff that I
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left out that I'm like shit. That's, that's too bad.
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That's really bad. So that's where I am.
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That will come around again, I'm sure.
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Oh yeah. So John you're usually pretty
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straightforward. Did you do anything out of the
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ordinary this time? I kind of did and like I have
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all these albums on my phone so I can kind of pull them up
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whenever so what I did was kind of over a couple of of late
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nights. I would just put it on, put it
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on, put a record on, listen to it all the way through kind of
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make some notes, as to which ones I was I was I was digging.
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But what I really did was like, let it sit for a few days and
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like the ones that that I went back to in like that stuck in my
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head that I was like, singing the Stay those are the ones that
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I kind of gave precedence to because like, you know, Randy
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said he had 10 or 12 immediately.
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I could have 30 immediately that I fell would have been
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deserving. So the hardest thing was was
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cutting those like they're going to be some that I really love
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that I don't have on my list, but I really tried to give
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What's the word I'm looking for favorites?
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I tried to give the ones that that really stuck in my head
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that were catchy that well I was I was singing the next day.
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Those are the ones that I gave the edge to Bradley your first
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time here. Did you have any kind of
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gameplay coming in or did you go so people like Bradley is not
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unfamiliar to the platform because you was on the Pearl Jam
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Championship Edition and a couple other things that we did.
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It's right. But just maybe you're right,
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you're absolutely right. But this is definitely different
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than that because o, it absolutely.
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Yeah, Championship Edition. You guys are looking for fan.
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Picked best Pearl Jam songs. This is, this is a different
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different animal. So I wonder if you approached it
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any different, a little bit, I mean, obviously with like the
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championship Edition kind of thing is I had a an opinion on
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every single song in the Pearl Jam catalog because of Because
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of my fandom, whereas, with rancid, there's a whole lot.
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I liked I've listened to, like I said, a lot of these albums
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numerous times some, you know, more than others, but there were
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still a lot of songs that, you know, I hadn't listened to in a
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while. So, I, you know, so I went back
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and listened through all of the album's multiple times.
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I didn't really have to listen to, and out, come the wolves too
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many more times because a lot of that was still, you know, I
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could remember what was the next track just by the closing notes
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of? You know, one of the songs, I
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really knew what was coming next, because I listened to
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that. So many times, but I just took
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an approach where I basically, you know, I printed out the, the
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track listing of each of the album's and then just as I was
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listening to it, if I thought it has a chance for to advance, I
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put a little notation next to it and then at the end I kind of
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went and looked and I end up having almost 40 songs.
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And so then I looked at those 40 songs and said all right, which
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ones are the ones that are for sure's like kind of like a Randy
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said he had 10 right away and John Cena could have got up to
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30 but I end up having about a dozen or so that Then I was
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like, alright, these are for sure on my list and then it just
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came down figuring out how to narrow down the narrow finish
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out the balance of my 20 and there were some tough Cuts in
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there. I found myself leaning away
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from, like, radio songs, some for a for mine.
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Hoping to, you know, play the game a little as you guys like
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to say, sometimes hoping that you guys will nominate them
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because because I didn't or you know, and hoping we can still
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get some through it either way. But yeah, those Pretty much my
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strategy just kind of go at it and see what happens.
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So, as I mentioned, you know, I'm relatively familiar with
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rancid. So, like, as I'm going through
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it, you know, I looked ahead and I was like, okay, so these songs
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are on my radar and whether or not they get in kind of depends
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on if they hit when they come up in the discogs.
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And so, I had anywhere from 15 to 16 that I had to had to fill
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out. And like I said, what, what made
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it difficult is? I shouldn't have listened to it
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all in one go. I think I would have I think I
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would have been able to find the cream like the absolute cream
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had. I separated it some Because, by
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the time I'll tell you this, I don't have a lot from judging by
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this conversation, you guys might not either.
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I don't have a lot from Life, Won't Wait, I found stuff.
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But by the time I got to life on.
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Wait, I'm like okay, okay. Okay.
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And then, you know, No 2000. Like feels like a completely
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different swing like. So like I was like okay I'm back
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in. Come 2000 but I also want to
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Echo here that I could have taken a lot from, let's go and
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out. Come the wolves.
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Like those two really, really stuck out to me, but I, as I'm
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going through, I'm realizing well, shit.
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I've got a lot from these. I need, I need to separate this,
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at least some. So there's a lot on the table
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here. Randy, for this next part based
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on a lot of what you just heard and the fact that there's four
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of us and the fact that there's 100 two songs How many do you
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think will get through unanimously for the final say?
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Oh boy, it's really tough. I can go anyway.
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You know, Bradley said I'm not worried about what Bradley said
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radiohead's because they're really only two of them.
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I did take one of the two because I have good memories of
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it but like, there's their stuff off wolves, their stuff off.
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Let's go. That feels like you can get for
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on. I don't know if this is bold or
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not but I'm going to say for. Okay, John, I'm going to say
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five. What do you think in Bradley?
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Well, I was actually, I was also thinking for so I will bump it
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down. I'll go three actually.
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Okay, all right. Well, then I'll be the asshole.
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I'll go to. And I don't even mean that in a
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negative way. I think.
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I just think that there's Like there's too many corners to hide
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in, like I think I'm with Randy, it feels like there should be
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like for, but you never know with a four-person panel so it
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right? I always try to skew low on a
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four-person but I'd love to be surprised.
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I'd love to be wrong, but you never ever know.
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And with that, the name of the game is the program, the four of
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us have combed through a select discography from rancid and have
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plucked out 20 songs that we're now going to mesh together in an
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attempt to create a top 10 starter kit for you, in case you
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have, never given rancid the time of day.
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And how dare you this song is already come up.
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And I had already had it as my number one.
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I remember hearing it on the punk song Here.
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Locally, I remember it actually got brought up when I asked What
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you know what the listeners think is, you know, needs to be
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on this list. So to me that, like I said, I
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had already marked it as my number one so I'm going with it
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salvation. Yep.
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Yes, I do not have it. It was one of my league cuts.
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It was one of my late Cuts but no, I do not have it that.
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Oh, here we go. I thought I thought that I was
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going to be for wow. Wow, wow.
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Okay, in for it, I have no, this is this is the most automatic
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song on this list. Maxwell.
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Turn it up. Let's go.
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Maxwell's murder? That Maxwell murder.
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Not. It's not fucking plural.
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All right, so I got it. I do too.
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Yeah, there we go. It was easy off.
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That was easy. All right, let's got to play
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that bass solo. Oh yeah.
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That's the one. Shoot get almost listen to the
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whole song unit 25 right a lot of new songs.
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Yeah, boy. Does open source album to end.
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Go nuts. There we go back.
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So yeah, we got it. All right, John.
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Oh, all right. Um, I'm gonna go a little weird
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on the first one just because let's go antennas.
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From Ice to 2000. Yes, I have it.
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I as well. Have it.
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I don't, I can't save you but at least it's around, I was more
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familiar with antennas like I mentioned before the no effect
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split. So that was always one, I heard
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no effects do it. So I went back to the ransom
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version of Lego. I love the ransom version 2.
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I think the best one of the best lyrics I think.
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Oh, yeah. Must have been one of my last
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Cuts because when you set it, I thought I had it.
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And I look down and I'm like, wait, no.
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Don't answer, must've been pretty late.
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Yeah. And tennis was one of mine that
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that was one of my for sure's. When I like I said, I had about
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a dozen that that were slam dunks and that was one of them.
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Alright Bradley. All right, let's see.
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Where should we go with this? Let's throw out.
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One of my personal favorites Roots radicals?
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Yes. I got it.
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Yep, there we go. Had a feeling that was there.
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Yeah me too well and I mean this this was one of my game, he's
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because we got this on the radio here all the time.
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So I was well aware this song and then when you come up to it,
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it holds up, I was like, oh, okay, so yes, this is this is
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what they're about. That's what songs they played on
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us and I want to. Yeah.
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All right, so the good news is in one round.
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I am already, you know, there so hopefully we got at least one
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more on us. This one doesn't feel as
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automatic anymore but it'd be silly.
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This is another answer that we got.
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I have it listed as my number for Ruby Soho.
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No. Yes, no.
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That was my last cut. It's got to Any particular
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reason you said that was something against the song at
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all. Okay.
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No. Yeah.
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Just love the whole entire record and I wanted, you know,
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the representation from that record to be kind of spread out
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a bit. You just said it with some stank
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like I thought like there was some heat there was like oh okay
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no no not at all. Okay.
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No no yeah that was one that like I said it was my last cut.
25:51
I kind of was playing the game a little bit.
25:53
Assuming other people would throw it out there.
25:55
But yeah it's just there was so many.
25:58
Other songs on that album, I hit it was hard for me not to have a
26:01
list that was I could probably could have come up with 10 just
26:04
from and how come the wolves alone and I needed to pare it
26:07
down a little bit and there's just so many other songs on that
26:10
album. I liked a little bit more
26:12
understandable. All right.
26:14
Randy, Let's go to Let's Go Radio.
26:23
Yes, for me. I don't have that one.
26:26
I do he's good. That's what I'm.
26:29
Yeah. Three is really good on a that's
26:31
probably number one. All said and done I think that's
26:33
number one for me. Hmm.
26:36
That's interesting. Just like the odd man out here.
26:40
This is what I was afraid of. I was going to be the odd man,
26:42
out a lot. All right.
26:44
John Hoover Street? No.
26:52
Nope. Yes, I do have it.
26:56
We have managed to not get into the bin yet, I'm into that.
27:04
You find it on the list here. There is so, John and Bradley.
27:10
All right, Bradley Let's see, where should we go?
27:15
Let's stick with Life. Won't Wait.
27:16
How about blood clot? No.
27:20
No. I got it.
27:22
I'll save you. Okay.
27:24
Nothing in the pile yet. That's not bad.
27:27
I mean seriously to go to rounds without hitting the pile yet.
27:30
That's that's pretty good on a for I'll take it.
27:35
Although it does leave these choose alive.
27:42
Okay. Now I feel like I'll go with
27:46
another one that that ranked pretty high for me.
27:48
I am the one. Yes.
27:53
I do not have it. No, so that's me and Randy.
27:58
All right. Randy.
28:06
I'm trying to think if there's one that feels more automatic so
28:11
animatic, which is no, I'm not taking that song.
28:15
Let's just do Journey to the End of these back.
28:21
I do. Yes, I do not.
28:24
Nope, really okay. Well that's what may be one of
28:27
those 32 didn't make it. I feel like that was I was just
28:35
had to because it's just one of their classic.
28:37
And yeah, that's what you're seeing, what you're hearing
28:42
here, folks is the product of a hundred songs being in play, but
28:48
it is, there's nothing. It's, it is remarkable that
28:51
nothing has hit the bin yet. We're almost three rounds
28:54
through. That's, that's that's insane.
28:58
all right, John I'm gonna go back to Transit 2000 and this is
29:03
one that I don't know why Disney plus didn't choose this as the
29:08
theme song to the, to the show of the same name, but let's go,
29:12
low-key. Yeah, no, I do not have it.
29:16
There's your first one. I also have some good news here.
29:22
So, hold on. Let me put tag the one here for
29:26
Loki, and then we can play that for a second.
29:30
All 29 seconds of it or whatever.
29:34
That it was like the great thing about 2,000 is there is a lot of
29:40
that. Yeah.
29:43
The exact opposite of late-life whole hit.
29:51
So, Your boy can't read and it was under my mic, but we also
29:59
got a third unanimous or what, what?
30:04
Antennas, nice cool. It was literally number 20.
30:09
So that's how I missed it. So that's a good one.
30:16
That's a good one to have on there.
30:17
Yeah, yeah, right. That might be the representation
30:21
for that record. So just for the record, your
30:23
boys already out. Three boys should learn how to
30:26
read. All right, Bradley let's go
30:34
with. Let's stick with rancid 2000 and
30:37
let's do another short one. How about?
30:38
It's quite all right, mmm, nope, tough cuts out.
30:43
But no seriously, seriously, I think, well, I was going to say,
30:50
I think I'd have to record but then you look at his like, no, I
30:53
did have a lot of it, but I think I still ended up with like
30:57
three or four songs from it. It's actually one of the more
31:02
melodic ones on there, I think, ultimately that was what the
31:06
strike against it just because I had I had that elsewhere.
31:12
I think it's great but I had it elsewhere.
31:17
All right, back to me, huh? Let's see if I can actually
31:21
read. Boy.
31:28
How about? Nihilism.
31:32
Yes, yes, yes, there we go. Right, there's our for let's
31:36
stop there because there's there's a couple of these that
31:41
will be really tough decisions. Scroll, scroll, scroll.
31:51
Another track one and I'll I'll say this because like, you know,
31:56
I pick a lot of track ones but there's literally no way.
32:01
I could have known with these ones, the way I listen to it,
32:06
there's no way I would have known.
32:07
It was a track 1, so it just I just liked it.
32:12
It just so happened to also be attractive one, can you imagine
32:16
if I would have broken them up though?
32:18
Look, imagine how much maximum murder in this would have hit,
32:22
if I would have listened to it separately.
32:24
I mean, it's the way it doesn't change the conversation any.
32:27
All right? Randy.
32:30
I had one that I wanted to pick your butt off of that
32:33
conversation because I think it flows really well.
32:35
There's song off their self-titled that every time that
32:39
I listen to it, which one which self-titled?
32:42
The original one, not two thousand, I would say rancid
32:46
2000. And when I kept listening to and
32:50
listening to them, like that's the opener for the record,
32:52
right? That's a perfect opening song.
32:54
And know there's another song. Let's see opener, but we use it
32:58
here. I don't know how far it's going
32:59
to go, but animosity. I don't got it.
33:05
I do not have it. Yeah.
33:09
All right. Things go that far.
33:10
You never know though. That's kind of, you know, one
33:13
near the teen, something like that.
33:23
All right John. Um let's stay on the record Rats
33:27
on the hallway. Of course.
33:30
I do not have it. That was one of mine that made
33:32
through the initial passing, but eventually got cut.
33:35
I got it. Three, maybe three, three,
33:39
three. If we're putting in these threes
33:42
right now, that's really I love all the song.
33:45
So solid. All right.
33:53
How about how about 7 years down?
33:57
No, I didn't take it. No, it's good though.
34:01
Can't save you this time. Sorry, I'm sorry that is another
34:05
song. I had an issue with due to
34:08
homophobic. Slurs.
34:09
Sure. I know that's that was one of
34:10
them I kind of wavered on selecting it or not just because
34:14
of some you know lyrical content but yeah.
34:18
Actually I pushed it through. Anyways.
34:20
The other one was so hard to leave out.
34:22
It might be one of my favourite songs off of and out come the
34:25
wolves, but it's just that one frickin line, I just couldn't do
34:29
it. It.
34:35
Alright, so we're back to me, huh?
34:44
And I'm almost halfway done, I think.
34:49
How about sidekick? Yeah, but a dream of this.
34:53
I was a vision one side kick. No, that was one of my late
34:57
cuts. My name is John.
34:59
I'm a lesser known character. Yes.
35:03
I always, I always thought that line was lesser-known cancer.
35:10
I don't know why don't ask John and I'm a lesser-known cancer.
35:17
We sent it to society, I don't know, but even still.
35:22
Yeah, I'm not sitting here in trying to explain that.
35:27
So, okay, so here we go. We go for through all the way
35:30
we've already got nine in the combo will.
35:33
Look at what's threes and what not but you know, as we get
35:36
there but this is already getting getting rough and we're
35:39
already at ntp which John might be upset about all right, Randy.
35:48
Well, it feels like we haven't done one from wolves and a long
35:50
time. And these are here, I'm kind of
35:53
almost scared to touch them because people don't take one of
35:56
these and it could be like, whoa, how about Olympia
35:58
Washington? Nope.
36:03
Nope. No.
36:04
I do not have it. That's surprising that.
36:08
It's that. It's that.
36:08
But that one hurts. Yeah.
36:12
One of the, one of the 30. If if you take anything away
36:20
from this I absolutely would go to bat for out.
36:24
Come the wolves like start there and then listen to everything
36:28
else. I mean we're going to give you a
36:29
good list but if you liked our list I would go right to the
36:33
wolves and then spread out. Absolutely.
36:38
All right, John Okay, I'm gonna pick another one from from
36:43
wolves. That might be my favorite rancid
36:45
song from the last couple of years.
36:47
It's moved up. We need a little bit of sky in
36:51
this thing. Let's go old friend.
36:52
Yes, yes, absolutely. That's one of my favorites as
36:55
well. I love it but I cut it so I do
36:59
not have it on my top final 20. I don't either.
37:03
But it's, I had it in my head all day today.
37:05
It's crazy. Sometimes you got it, dude.
37:09
Good Morning Heartache. Yeah.
37:11
Sometimes you got to take take that that he's somewhere.
37:14
Rid of never let go or we're not going to Discount that one when
37:17
we get to the conversation that it's a to but it's going to it
37:20
might have to stick around. Yeah we need we need good Sky
37:23
representation in here too. All right, I mean as long as
37:28
yeah well we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
37:30
Alright Bradley How about, how about Hooligans?
37:36
Yes, I do have Hooligans. Yes, I have a story Man, 2.
37:40
No, no. All right, real quick when Kazan
37:45
and all that you know when we were downloading shit off there,
37:49
there was something Ranson. I think I was just trying to
37:51
download the Whole Life Won't Wait record or I was trying to
37:55
download and indestructible before it came out.
37:58
But essentially all the tracks that I downloaded were all you
38:02
heard was run sued. And then the Hooligans chorus
38:05
over and over again just looped for about three or four minutes
38:09
it wasn't even like the actual full song.
38:12
Well, Just as like, a kind of a fuck you, you didn't get it and
38:18
it made me hate the song for such a long time.
38:20
And then, when I put it on when starting them, like I can't, I
38:24
can't not take this. All right, we're we back to me.
38:29
Yeah. Haha.
38:36
All right. How about trenches?
38:38
Yeah. Nope, I do not have it.
38:43
There he goes. Finally, I had a good batting
38:48
average going into that one. It was it was bound to happen.
38:53
All right. Rainy this one feels.
38:56
Like it needs to be said and right here is a good point to
39:00
use it Time Bomb. I got it.
39:05
I do not. I do.
39:07
Okay. Hey there go.
39:09
The got more than I thought it would.
39:12
Yeah, that was the first rancid song.
39:13
I heard probably no shock to anybody there, but that kind of
39:17
have a good soft spot in my heart for it.
39:20
I had a feeling that that was going to be the one that
39:24
somebody ducked out on. Yeah, I had a feeling that's why
39:30
I didn't play it. All right, John.
39:33
Oh, that was a tune out of three.
39:34
No, there's no story. I was the only one.
39:37
Well, okay. Oh, got you got you got to
39:38
sorry. I had it.
39:39
I just didn't play it. I waited for you to do it.
39:41
Ah, Got it. All right.
39:43
I have a feeling that that Justin's going to have this one.
39:47
It's an album one track one. How about Idina?
39:49
Yes. I do not know it was, it was
39:55
very, very close. It's a good one.
39:57
I mean, the thing with rancid and you know, I normally say,
40:02
oh, you know, tone Setter for the band and it is like it's not
40:05
like, it's not. It's just, there's so much other
40:07
tone Setters here. So like, you know you don't need
40:12
the the tone Setter, but I liked it enough to keep it.
40:15
So, All right, Bradley, I didn't have a Dina, but I had the very
40:21
next track hyena know, really tough cut.
40:24
I was mad at myself for that punk.
40:29
Yeah, that's all right. Let me see what I got left
40:38
because I think I'm now starting to get there.
40:40
One, two, I got five, three, four, five, six.
40:44
I got seven. So maybe we do.
40:46
I'm so sorry. Do one more round.
40:49
And then dumped out sound like a plan.
40:52
Yeah sure. Alright.
40:54
Um I just like saying this you don't care.
40:58
Nothing. Yeah.
41:03
I do not know. I had a feeling, you know,
41:06
sometimes. All right.
41:07
Arginine to Milo, sometimes something gets really just
41:13
because, all right, do do do, do doop one, all right, Randy, I'm
41:21
going to go back to wolves and this this one was a very much
41:26
like a later late-in-life rancid song that I really started to
41:30
like because it's a lot. More atmospheric, all their
41:33
songs like start out with like very it's just fast.
41:36
It's in it. Right away.
41:37
Very riffy, but this one's so much different.
41:39
Its variant that attic. You just get you know if they
41:42
play it live. I imagine that everybody singing
41:44
the damn thing about the war's end.
41:47
Yes no no. I love that song.
41:53
That was going to be the less than my last thrown out there.
41:58
There's still life in it. A lot of these cheese.
42:01
Is. Yeah.
42:03
All right John. Let It Go.
42:06
Let It Go. Let It Go disgruntled.
42:08
Another really tough cut. Yeah, I did not have it.
42:12
I do the twos people can save now.
42:19
John and doesn't. Alright Bradley well I'm the
42:23
last song I have on my list from out.
42:26
Come the wolves is as wicked. So how's that another really
42:30
tough kind of? Yeah I don't have that one
42:33
either. That's rough.
42:36
It was pretty much either as wicked or or the war's end.
42:41
All right, so everybody going dump out, all dump out first.
42:45
What I got left here, I got rejected.
42:49
Ray agent. No, I don't know.
42:52
Nope. I mean I guess I got rejected.
42:57
Hey, how about International cover-up?
43:04
No, no, no. As you can tell, these are the
43:07
ones I was not so sure leister Square.
43:17
It's one of the few probably 29.2 but no.
43:20
Yeah no I know. That was what made my first
43:22
pass, but didn't make it through.
43:25
And I feel better about that one, missing on that one, then
43:28
Don Giovanni. I would love to dig that but
43:33
again another yeah, nope, for anyone who is a Dirty Work fan,
43:39
Don Giovanni. Who's that dude?
43:43
All right. And last but not least, I am
43:45
Forever elf. Nope, nope, my instinct right
43:51
on. I mean, this is that sucks, but
43:53
my instinct right on. All right, Randy.
43:59
All right, let's start with burned.
44:02
No, no, no for me. How about lockstep?
44:06
I'm gone. Somebody's got to have the
44:08
right. I do not.
44:10
That was one of my late Cuts. I do not have it.
44:12
No, I don't have it on for me to backslide.
44:20
No no and I radio that a yes I have that one.
44:26
Nope. Okay, pretty much how I
44:29
expected. All right, Jon Daly City train,
44:36
no crane fist. Nope.
44:43
Golden Gate Fields. I do not have that one and Life
44:47
Won't Wait. I know.
44:52
All right and Bradley just for fun.
44:55
Sure, I threw out. Let me go.
44:59
Gave it away. Black Derby jacket.
45:06
St. Mary and then really want to
45:09
take some Mary. Yeah, that was, that was one
45:11
those those towards the bottom but I was debating between that
45:13
a couple others and the last one just because I thought it was
45:16
wildly different than a lot of their other stuff was who would
45:19
have thought from Life Won't Wait?
45:22
I like that one a lot but yeah. So I'm glad everybody caught on
45:27
to list it at my was one of my favorite Rants and songs but
45:31
it's impossible to take that when the slurs right there.
45:34
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
45:37
All right. So let's see.
45:38
We got four unanimous So Randy on the money.
45:43
Yeah, all right, this is this is going.
45:46
This is not easy, it's not easy. So let's see what I've got.
45:50
Here are unanimous, our antennas Maxwell, murder nihilism and
45:53
Roots radical. All right.
45:56
What do we got here? For 3 is 1 2 3 4 5.
46:00
Threes subjects that they're in automatically.
46:03
Then there's that I gotta think the last one.
46:05
But so here's the threes, you know, Up For Debate.
46:09
Radio rats, in the hallway salvation, sidekick Time Bomb.
46:14
I feel like at least at least salvation or Time Bomb.
46:19
I personally could go for both but I feel like at least one of
46:23
the other should be in. Yeah, occasion, definitely.
46:28
Yeah, I would say salvation. Radio and rats in the hallway.
46:38
Should be in. All right.
46:39
So what Sidekick is the one that I think probably not.
46:43
Yeah, I agree with that. I think salvation radio rats in
46:46
the hallway, you have a lot of. Let's go especially at the top
46:50
of that record, almost all all for sidekick being the one left
46:54
out, but that's a lot of representation for let's go.
46:59
All right. What do you think, Bradley?
47:01
Well, I was the one holdout for all five of those three songs I
47:04
believe. Wow.
47:06
So I'm kind of, I'm okay with all of them.
47:09
They all had made my initial list, so I'm, I'm cool
47:12
salvation, I'm cool with. Yeah, I how, because old friend,
47:17
was another one that was three. I was 20 was to okay, okay.
47:23
I'm going to be looking for old friend, don't worry?
47:25
Yeah. Well that's what I was going to
47:27
set it yet. I thought that was one of the
47:28
one of the threes but no salvation.
47:31
And yeah, I think for sure radio radio was one of my like top
47:36
five. So I would push for radio pretty
47:39
hard and Yeah, salvation or Time Bomb, you know, pretty much any
47:45
of them. I really like I said, I had all
47:47
of them on my, they were all late Cuts or, you know, made my
47:50
initial and then even my second pass through.
47:52
So so here, so I was the odd man out on radio so let's do that.
47:57
Let's get rats in the hallway salvation, time, bomb, that
48:00
gives us the panel we say tomorrow.
48:03
You said, John didn't say time, right?
48:06
I would say, I would say hold off on time bomb.
48:08
Yeah. I would guess and then we'd have
48:11
9 and Randy gets 10. So we're doing rats in the
48:16
hallway salvation and radio, yes, yes definitely.
48:21
Okay, thank you us seven. Yep.
48:23
One two, three, four, five, six, seven.
48:30
So do we really need two for the panel?
48:35
Yeah, there's a lot here to discuss.
48:39
I don't think the three is necessarily indicative of what
48:43
should be in the time, all right?
48:45
I love time, bomb. And maybe turns out all end up
48:49
fighting for it. But All right.
48:54
The ones, the ones I'm looking at are the twos old friend and
48:59
disgruntled. I think that's a yin and yang
49:03
that we don't have. I think that would that would
49:07
round it out very nicely. Even though I love Ruby Soho oh
49:13
I love Hoover Street. I want to fight for Hoover
49:14
Street you know Journey to the End is what it is Edina and
49:19
hyena think are deserving, War's end is great but I think if I'm
49:23
if I'm looking at as I think it's old friend and disgruntled
49:26
out of the twos that that Trump everything else.
49:29
I absolutely agree because we've got Roots radical with God's
49:33
salvation all. Think we need Ruby Soho.
49:37
Yeah no. So lucky the one I agree with
49:44
you with disgruntled just cuz it's definitely different but
49:52
still the same so I can I mean I had it.
49:56
So yeah. If the other gents sign off on
50:01
disgruntled and old friend, I suppose I can lay down my arms
50:04
for time bomb. Yeah, Ultra and definitely.
50:09
And yeah, I was really close on disgruntled some of problem,
50:12
then yeah. I was going to agree for sure on
50:14
old friend. The only one I would push
50:16
against it would be offered. I mean, I'm fine with
50:18
disgruntled. Also, I would have pushed a
50:21
little bit for Journey to the end, but but if everybody else
50:24
gonna search, man. Yeah, well, I just like that
50:29
song better. But how many do we have from
50:31
each album? I mean, I know we don't always
50:33
have to have an even split or anything but it looks like Three
50:37
from. Let's go one from the first
50:39
self-titled, one from the 2000 self-titled and then two from
50:44
out, come the wolves. So you have a little race moves
50:47
here? Yeah, that's what Maxwell
50:50
radical and we're putting an old friend, okay?
50:55
So that get takes us one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
50:59
eight, nine. So that gives us takes us to
51:02
Randy. Wait, wait, wait, what did we
51:04
decide turn it into a disgruntled?
51:07
Oh, I guess not. I mean, I'm okay with this girl
51:10
going in. I mean, I guess that I did have
51:12
it on my initial pass I just you know, I prefer jury to then but
51:17
that's just my taste. So it's a whole group thing.
51:19
I mean, you know, I'm not, you know, as always man once said,
51:22
knock me over with a feather so it's true.
51:26
You sure did something I do. I think you know Journey to the
51:28
End is like it tells the story of the band basically tells the
51:33
story of Operation Ivy and their their Journey.
51:35
But I think it might be a little too cheeseball for for this.
51:41
I think if you're making You've Got Roots radicals, you got
51:45
salvation, got radio disgruntled is like a 20-second hardcore
51:51
song, that's awesome. And I think that would be That
51:55
would be great to have on here. Yeah, I'm not complaining.
52:00
Yeah, I think you won me over so, yeah, I'm not.
52:03
Yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna argue.
52:05
All right. So, that, again, as always, I
52:08
would prefer something that's alive, Randy, but it'll be alive
52:12
to trust me. We have enough here.
52:13
Okay. It is up to you for the final
52:18
say. Well, this is, this is hard.
52:22
This is, this is not something to take lightly.
52:29
Do you want me to give you a rundown?
52:31
No, I got it here. If you want to give the
52:33
listener, say just so important. So you can.
52:35
Yeah mole, we've got antennas Maxwell's murder nihilism,
52:40
Roots, radical radio rats in the hallway, salvation, disgruntled
52:44
old friend, No, we don't have alternate.
52:49
Oh, oh, you're saying sorry. I was nine.
52:53
Can you said the conversation of what was left in the convo?
52:57
I'm side and I wasn't even paying attention to the person.
52:59
I don't let his old friend like, you know, we put that in.
53:05
Okay. So you didn't want to recite.
53:07
What's in the column that's left for me to do because the pic is
53:11
your like if you wanted to pick something out of, you know.
53:14
No I'm not picking the pile, I'm not picking up.
53:17
I don't need to read what's alive because because, you know,
53:21
and it's the pick is yours. So, all right, I'm in between
53:25
two. I think the war's end is
53:29
fantastic, and that's ultimately going to end up being the pic, I
53:34
think. But weirdly I want to fight for
53:37
Hooligans, I don't know why this is the fun fucking song.
53:43
And, yeah, it's cheesy in a way like plate.
53:46
I want people to listen to Hogan's.
53:48
All right. Well, I support either of those
53:51
two because I was the other vote on both of those songs.
53:54
Her oh, come on. I was going to play the Kazaa
54:06
one there in town. literally, every time I played a new rod
54:13
and Sid ruts, There we got we got the scar
54:36
Vibe with old friend, no way. Only one though, it is only one.
54:41
Yes, we doors gonna like Wars in his great though.
54:44
We don't have, we need thing like this.
54:46
I'll give you that, that's the thing.
54:47
I like rancid does such a great job with these songs that can
54:51
just open. And this is.
54:52
So, this is such a different one than anything, even off out,
54:55
come the wolves, but a lot of anthemic songs off that record.
54:59
But like, this one, like, it almost makes you take notice?
55:02
Because you went through the whole entire record and you
55:05
basically hit in the face with the brick and then you know this
55:09
song Come kind of comes up. It's just a single guitar coming
55:12
through and he's singing little semi was a punk rocker.
55:16
And, you know, you're like, okay, it's a second to breathe,
55:20
but I'm also like, I'm feeling it.
55:22
I feel like I want to sing along with this.
55:25
I feel like I want to be part of that crowd.
55:27
Yeah, I think it's I think it's the war's end, all right?
55:34
Liz. Do it then.
55:39
Where are you? Where did you go?
55:40
There you are. Four and four, and he talks
55:47
while he types. All right, let's sort that and
55:52
run it down. We have got antennas Maxwell.
55:55
Murder nihilism Roots, radical radio rats.
55:58
In the hallway, salvation, disgruntled old friend and the
56:02
war's end is our final say, all right, Randy of those 10, which
56:07
one's the one that's all. What do you think, John.
56:13
Um, I'm leaning between A couple Max Maxwell murders in their
56:24
complaint the just the beginning of antennas real quick.
56:27
Sure. All right.
56:42
I love that intro to that so much.
56:46
The other one would be salvation, you know, just being
56:50
like, they're their breakthrough kind of song.
56:58
Yeah man. I'm going to pass for now.
57:00
Let's see what Bradley thinks it would you got Bradley.
57:02
What do you think? Yeah, go going into this.
57:03
I was leaning towards either. Maxwell murder or Roots
57:07
radicals. And I kind of think that it
57:09
probably should be Maxwell murder Roots radicals.
57:13
Has a little it may be a little catchier or something.
57:16
But Maxwell murder seems to be more of like the essence of the
57:19
band, you know? It seems more, you know, you
57:22
hear it, you kind of know what you're going to get.
57:23
And I think that's like, I said, more represent eight.
57:27
More representative of kind of like them so I would I would
57:31
lean towards Mexico murder. Yeah, you know I think a lot of
57:35
these songs do what rancid is and you want to be hit in the
57:39
face right away with rancid. And like, I think that anybody I
57:45
just tell I'll just tell people and I used to tell people more
57:47
because I don't really talk about Ranson in general
57:50
conversation anymore. But when I did, I usually told
57:53
people that you have to listen to that Baseline you just have
57:57
Like it's for anybody. It's not just for a punk fan.
58:00
It's for anybody that just appreciates fucking talent and I
58:04
think everybody would know rancid just by hearing that one
58:09
song. I'll say nothing.
58:12
I think I'm good to go with that because like, it's not only like
58:15
the bass solo obviously gets the attention.
58:18
But that intro, fucking smokes as well?
58:21
Like the way starts off it just makes you want to get up and
58:24
jump around. So I'll say I mean it clearly
58:27
has to be Maxwell murder because I was down to two going in,
58:31
Maxwell, murder and salvation. So it should be noted that all
58:36
four of us had Maxwell as a finalist.
58:39
So I think that's probably the one.
58:42
Yeah, yeah. Alright.
58:45
New one. Maxwell Murderer.
58:48
Let's hear it for a second. I've already almost played the
58:52
whole thing earlier. Yeah, get it again.
58:56
Why not Play it Again? Play it twice.
58:59
There we go. Maxwell murder is our number
59:02
one. In ten has nihilism Roots,
59:04
radical radio rats in the hallway, salvation disgruntled
59:07
and old old friend and the war's end.
59:11
And rounds us out. Let's let Maxwell murder get a
59:13
moment in the Sun. You doing it for you, we come
59:34
through these hundred songs walked out. 10.
59:39
Listen to these 10, get it and then I recommend immediately
59:44
going to listen to you out. Come the wolves after listening
59:47
to our 10. Just if you like our 10 you will
59:51
like out, come the wolves guaranteed and then expand out
59:54
from there. All right we've done it.
59:58
Also, what we have done is Invited you in just saying what
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you can do is go to Legion stupid.com.
1:00:07
You click on the top. It says podcast go down to
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deprogrammed, scroll down just a little bit.
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There it is a sign-up sheet. You want to come talk about a
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band sign up for whatever band. And let me just say, if your
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name is Jamie and you want to do a band called nothing, you
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should probably give me some sort of contact information
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because if you're doing a bit, are you?
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I have all people appreciate a good bit.
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But if you want to talk about the band, nothing I can't reach
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you. So make sure you give some sort
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just want to nominate a band. We've gotten that a couple
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times. Recently nominated people
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nominating bands that they want to hear us talk about.
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So I'm into that to also where podcast, subscribe rate, comment
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all that stuff is great best way.
1:00:55
Honestly is to tell somebody that you listen to deprogrammed,
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and that they should too. And I would appreciate that
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more. Or than words could ever ever
1:01:02
ever. Put into vorlon word being
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extreme right now. Randy.
1:01:11
How dare you? Hey, I understood that
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reference. Also, you know, if you would
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like to help financially, I would appreciate that as well,
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So, all that stuff at patreon.com slash showed High
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Justin. I think that is everything in
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with that rancid, but I'm loving people will see you next week.
1:01:46
Bye.