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Episode 437: NTS x R&B Only w/ JABARI · Not That Serious

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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, it is I Large Michael, and
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  Speaker 1: you are now tuned into the Not that Serious podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the greatest podcast.
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  Speaker 2: In the world.
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  Speaker 1: And I usually don't start off with my name, so
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  Speaker 1: I kind of messed up the rhythm a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But I am Big Mike. Yes, Kennan's in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Lama aka Doctor Waffle aka Viavin know.
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  Speaker 4: We got the phone back.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and we also got a couple of more people
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  Speaker 1: here related to our resident pilot.
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  Speaker 2: We got Sam in the building with up with up
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  Speaker 2: what up?
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  Speaker 1: And we have our guests, our special special guests for today.
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  Speaker 2: We got Jabbari up from here. You're not a dousingberry, right.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I actually don't even use my last
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  Speaker 4: name general. I just go like all caps Jabari, humming.
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  Speaker 2: Them all right, we're going to m F doo. Now
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 4: Well that's still that's two words, but.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying capitalize everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all caps, yeah, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna we're gonna allow you to filter through
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  Speaker 2: here exactly is indeed who he is?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, j just just getting started, like tell us
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  Speaker 1: who you are, what you do?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what what you where you come from?
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  Speaker 4: For sure? Yeah? Man, my name is Jabari. I'm the
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  Speaker 4: founder of a company called Colors Worldwide.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: We have a flagship brand that most people know us for.
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  Speaker 4: It's called R and B Only. And yeah, that's the
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  Speaker 4: reason I'm typically on podcast. But aside from that, I'm
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  Speaker 4: a I'm a father, you know, and a lover of music.
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  Speaker 4: Family man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how many kids?
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  Speaker 4: You got one one so far?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, so you do R and B only?
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  Speaker 4: Yep?
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  Speaker 1: Now explain R and B Only to somebody who doesn't
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  Speaker 1: like to go outside, who was uninitiated me.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I would say R and B Only is
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  Speaker 4: a brand specifically focused on amplifying R and B music
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  Speaker 4: from pastor present in many different ways. That shows up
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  Speaker 4: in live events is what we got initially known for
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  Speaker 4: our shows that are DJ driven shows that travel all
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  Speaker 4: around the world playing R and B music in concert venues,
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  Speaker 4: arenas and all the like. And it has expanded from
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  Speaker 4: just live shows into media, you know, uh, content that
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  Speaker 4: we that we post on you know, all the social
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  Speaker 4: distribution channels, merchandise as well as marketing. Uh. We do
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  Speaker 4: a lot of marketing, not just for our own properties,
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  Speaker 4: but behind the scenes for artists. Yeah, and and uh
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  Speaker 4: we market artists tours. We market artists like albums and
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  Speaker 4: content and rollouts. So there's a lot. There's a lot
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  Speaker 4: that the R and B only brand touches. But we've
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  Speaker 4: just kind of created an ecosystem for R and B
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  Speaker 4: music in general, and and and everything that we do
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  Speaker 4: is rooted in the amplification of R and B music.
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  Speaker 3: So it's more than just live events.
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  Speaker 4: Far more than live events.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like the words you use, ecosystem
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  Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, so you said you, I know, I
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  Speaker 1: heard you went to Howard.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, and were gated out of there.
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  Speaker 2: But you got it though, right, I got list brother
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  Speaker 2: for sure. Listen, listen. I did two junior years see
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  Speaker 2: get degrees man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely out of there. And I know you
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  Speaker 1: started out with this. You started out doing hip hop
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  Speaker 1: like hip hop parties, like yeah, mostly primarily.
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  Speaker 4: I liked I liked that differentiator. Right. So you you
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  Speaker 4: said I started out doing hip hop parties, and that
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  Speaker 4: is very true. I started doing hip hop parties and
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  Speaker 4: I evolved into producing R and B shows, Right, So.
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  Speaker 2: When did when did that start? At? Was that in college?
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  Speaker 2: After college?
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  Speaker 4: Technically my first ever party that I threw professionally, I'd
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  Speaker 4: say where I like charged in the admission was actually
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  Speaker 4: a party bus in college when we were so I
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  Speaker 4: was still in college, but I think I was graduating
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  Speaker 4: and I threw a party bus that you know, we
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  Speaker 4: charged people to get on, and we hopped around different
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  Speaker 4: cities and or different bars and clubs in DC. And
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  Speaker 4: that was my first ever time throwing like a paid
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  Speaker 4: admission party.
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  Speaker 2: How long time you do that?
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  Speaker 4: I think I did it twice. There's a there's a smell.
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  Speaker 2: Was too crazy?
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  Speaker 4: Uh no, it was just like it was wild. But
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  Speaker 4: uh but I I think after that I evolved into
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  Speaker 4: like real venues. And I did a birthday party for
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  Speaker 4: I turned twenty five. And I did a birthday party
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  Speaker 4: for myself and partnered up with the promoter. And that
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  Speaker 4: was my first like and and but that was in
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  Speaker 4: New York after I had graduated, far after I graduated college.
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  Speaker 4: And we did it at a club called Sutra in
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  Speaker 4: Lower East Side. And you remember those days.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, yeah times?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think were you there? Were you at that one?
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  Speaker 4: I think I was the bouncer that you might have been.
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  Speaker 4: It was bouncing. I was bouncing, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A load of bounce niggas like you don't seem aggressive
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  Speaker 1: enough to.
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  Speaker 2: Bounce, very quiet but.
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  Speaker 5: Getting up out of there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So so that was the first one,
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  Speaker 4: and yeah, and then and then for years after that,
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  Speaker 4: I was just doing hip hop parties and events. And
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  Speaker 4: it was because I was number one, just a huge
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  Speaker 4: hip hop fan. But number two, I was working in
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  Speaker 4: the music industry, uh, and I was working with a
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  Speaker 4: ton of hip hop artists and I just knew a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people, and so I was really just throwing
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  Speaker 4: parties with my friend because we knew a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people and we worked in music. After the years of
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  Speaker 4: doing that, you know, I evolved to playing R and
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  Speaker 4: B sets at the end of the hip hop parties,
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  Speaker 4: and people just wanted to start to come specifically for
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  Speaker 4: R and B.
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  Speaker 3: That became the main draw.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was act like the point where it's like where
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  Speaker 2: that's when they cleared, like, oh this is well, it
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  Speaker 2: was a route to go.
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  Speaker 4: I've told this story many times, but it's just like
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  Speaker 4: what happened was at one of the hip hop parties
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  Speaker 4: I turned the because I used to host them, so
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  Speaker 4: I would be you know, in DJ booth on stage,
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  Speaker 4: and I and a lot of DJs hated. When I did,
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  Speaker 4: I turned, Yeah, I would turn turned the fader down
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  Speaker 4: on their on their controller or mixer. And I said, hey,
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  Speaker 4: if I did an R and B only show or
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  Speaker 4: event or whatever, I said, but I know I said
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  Speaker 4: R and B only. Said if I did an R
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  Speaker 4: and B only event, would y'all come And I didn't
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  Speaker 4: say it like that. I was like, yo, if I
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  Speaker 4: did RB only event, would y'all come through? Yeah? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: And uh. And then the whole crowd just roared. And
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  Speaker 4: so I was like, okay, cool. I took that back,
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  Speaker 4: you know, grabbed the money from the door, went back
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  Speaker 4: to my apartment in Englewood, and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I just I just remembered that moment throughout the night,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, all right, I gotta find a
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  Speaker 4: name for this thing. You gotta do it, but I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what to call it. And then I just
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  Speaker 4: already only I knew what to call it only uh.
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  Speaker 4: And then I was just like, well, you said R
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  Speaker 4: and B only, and just call it R and B only.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's where the name came from.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So what is that first R and BE only?
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  Speaker 2: What was that?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Where was it? Yeah? So was have that go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was in Los Angeles and it was actually
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  Speaker 4: we were doing we were doing a surprise pop up
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  Speaker 4: show where I had an idea to do these events
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  Speaker 4: called Tonight, And basically the idea with Tonight was that
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  Speaker 4: it was you just found out about that show the
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  Speaker 4: day of right, So I did in really small venues,
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  Speaker 4: like maybe one hundred and fifty people, maybe two hundred
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  Speaker 4: people something like that, and I had I was like,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, I got this thing called Tonight already
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  Speaker 4: that's different from Colors, which is my parent company. Now
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  Speaker 4: the company is called Colors Worldwide. And again the brand,
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  Speaker 4: our most popular brand, is called R and B only.
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  Speaker 4: But at the time I was just testing this pop
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  Speaker 4: up event out and then I called it Tonight R
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  Speaker 4: and BE only. So when I did that, I sent
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  Speaker 4: the RSVP link out, A bunch of people showed up,
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  Speaker 4: way more people that showed up than that had actually RSVP'd.
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  Speaker 4: So the place was packed and I think it was
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  Speaker 4: about two hundred people like the first the first one,
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  Speaker 4: and so then I was like, all right, let me
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  Speaker 4: try this again, dropped it Tonight off of the event
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  Speaker 4: and I just called this next one R and B only,
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  Speaker 4: and then it was like four hundred people, and so
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  Speaker 4: like the four hundred people was already the size of
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  Speaker 4: the normal colors parties that I was doing right right,
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  Speaker 4: and so I was like, this is the second one,
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  Speaker 4: and it's already at the same size. And then I
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  Speaker 4: did it again, and then it was like six hundred people,
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  Speaker 4: and I kept having to move up in venue. So
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  Speaker 4: at this time I was still the first few ones.
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  Speaker 4: I was still doing the hip hop thing, but the
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  Speaker 4: R and B only show had surpassed what the hip
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  Speaker 4: hop thing was doing so quickly too. Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 4: was like, I think, I think there's more legs with
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  Speaker 4: this event because.
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  Speaker 2: You say.
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  Speaker 4: Unique, it's unique. I mean it's funny, like you know,
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  Speaker 4: no pun intended, but like I wasn't trying to do
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  Speaker 4: a double entendre there. But when I say more legs,
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  Speaker 4: there's literally way more women like coming to this event.
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  Speaker 4: Because the women would come to the hip hop event,
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  Speaker 4: but a lot of times they would come at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the show. They would come like just to
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  Speaker 4: hear the R and B. And I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and this isn't you know, you look ten years ago,
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  Speaker 4: so we're talking about like peak little UZI vert asap
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  Speaker 4: ferg This is like that CARDI Yeah, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. This is like that kind of turn hip hop,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: The ladies.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was hell of fun, right but it
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  Speaker 4: was I mean, we were it was those shows were
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  Speaker 4: kind of dangerous, you know what I mean. And it
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  Speaker 4: was just like a lot of energy and it was dope,
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  Speaker 4: but it was just people were leaving, like really sweaty.
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  Speaker 2: And safe, sexy place for women. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and and not the spot I gotta I gotta
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  Speaker 4: shout out like all the just just l a man.
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  Speaker 4: Because I was doing these events in LA, New York
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  Speaker 4: and d C, but specifically in LA. This was a
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  Speaker 4: time when uh, you know, we were it was it
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  Speaker 4: was heavy bottle service v P type of like culture
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  Speaker 4: and energy. But I came to the city, you know
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  Speaker 4: a few years earlier, and such a diverse group of people,
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  Speaker 4: like you know, you had you had the streets in there,
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  Speaker 4: you had the you had the collegiate people in there.
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  Speaker 4: You have people who just like were from the city,
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  Speaker 4: and they really like the whole city of Los Angeles
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  Speaker 4: really embraced me and open welcomed me with open arms,
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  Speaker 4: and I just always respect the city for that. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I always try to give back to the city because
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  Speaker 4: they really you know, let someone who was not from
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  Speaker 4: there really you know, provide a space experience for people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool, and I feel like you probably
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  Speaker 1: couldn't cultivate an environment like that, or it would be
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  Speaker 1: a lot harder to do that if you were just
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  Speaker 1: doing the hip hop space.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, probably you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: like and so yeah, I mean it just it just
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  Speaker 4: it just kept growing. R and B only started to
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  Speaker 4: take off and yeah, man, you know, now we're here
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  Speaker 4: ten years later.
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  Speaker 6: Hey man, that's the ten years. You got to target
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  Speaker 6: the women. The women are the peak audiences because they're
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  Speaker 6: actually the loyal ones, like they'll.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonta spend the bread. They're gonna spend the bread.
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  Speaker 2: If they fuck with you, they're gonna spend the money.
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  Speaker 2: Niggas are cheap, yes, women are not. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So anybody starting to business out there, target the women.
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  Speaker 2: Target the women.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Disposable income is key. Ye, people with disposable income
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  Speaker 4: and that want to spend. Yeah, it's a it's a
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  Speaker 4: always like young entrepreneurs like, are you when you when
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  Speaker 4: you think about the tam right, total addressable market of
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  Speaker 4: a business and a business opportunity. You know, if people
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  Speaker 4: if your if your audience barely has any money to spend,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just like basic life necessities,
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  Speaker 4: then they're probably not going to have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: money to spend on your product. So you want to
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  Speaker 4: you want to shoot for like an audience with disposable
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  Speaker 4: income and a wide total addressable market. Right And I
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  Speaker 4: and I knew that if I honed into R and
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  Speaker 4: B music, they weren't really being served in a way
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  Speaker 4: that I felt like I could serve them, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I thought, I thought it was a pretty big market,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm seeing now that it's even larger than I could. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So what does that look like scaling from like
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  Speaker 3: the l A clubs to a national level? Like, what
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  Speaker 3: were the what was the first step in that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: So the first step was learning how to use face
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  Speaker 4: book ads? Okay, that was the first step for sure.
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  Speaker 4: So the LA, DC and New York were all places
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  Speaker 4: that I had relationships in, so you know, I could
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  Speaker 4: text one hundred people in those cities and get my
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  Speaker 4: friends and their friends and their friends to come out.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't until I started to understand how to utilize
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  Speaker 4: digital ads, specifically on Facebook, that I could figure out
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  Speaker 4: how to get people in a city like Orlando, Florida,
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  Speaker 4: which was the first city I expanded to that I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know anyone in and once I did the Orlando show,
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  Speaker 4: we had about eight hundred people come and again out
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  Speaker 4: of know one person in Orlando, right, but I understood
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  Speaker 4: how to like utilize the budget get people to sign
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  Speaker 4: up for the event. I specifically wanted people in the
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  Speaker 4: first shows that I was expanding markets. I never charged people.
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  Speaker 4: I did free RSVP before a certain time because to me,
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  Speaker 4: the payment was getting the ability to communicate with that person.
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  Speaker 4: That was the payment, because I knew relationship exactly that
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  Speaker 4: if I had your phone number and email, it would
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  Speaker 4: probably take a lot for you to unsubscribe, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean. And I also wanted to incentivize people
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  Speaker 4: for getting there early, so I always worked out bar
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  Speaker 4: deals with the venues that I was that I was
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  Speaker 4: working with, because if I could say, all right, this
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  Speaker 4: ticket gets you here free with the rs VP before
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  Speaker 4: nine thirty, then I knew that people would come early
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  Speaker 4: and the earlier they'd be there they'd be drinking more.
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  Speaker 4: The longer and the longer they'll be running the bar up.
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  Speaker 4: There we go, and that's you know, that's that's that's
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  Speaker 4: how that's how the audience was grown. You know, it's
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  Speaker 4: just doing those type of deal structures and getting people's
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  Speaker 4: emails and phone numbers before we just moved to a
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  Speaker 4: completely paid ticket model.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so.
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  Speaker 1: When and I know you guys, you guys were there
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  Speaker 1: like two years ago, right, I've been todd you've been
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  Speaker 1: a few of them. Yea, I've been to the first
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  Speaker 1: one I went to. Yeah, I did a New Year's
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  Speaker 1: Eve up in Upper Derby.
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  Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's ago.
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  Speaker 2: That was a minute ago exactly.
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  Speaker 6: So I was one of the people that got the tickets,
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  Speaker 6: that got the drinks at the bar.
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  Speaker 2: Will show up early listen, man.
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  Speaker 6: Because because that's my space R and B, like the
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  Speaker 6: Hippiie Hop, they can keep all that. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 6: beat my feels, I'm trying to vibe out. I'm trying
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  Speaker 6: to sing at the top of my heart. So I
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  Speaker 6: actually seen it on Facebook the Wow. So I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: so we put in the chap like you know, anybody
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  Speaker 6: trying to go to New year's eve, R and Be
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  Speaker 6: only got a couple of people to go.
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  Speaker 2: She was a vibe. Bro was a vibe to.
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  Speaker 6: The point was like I can do that, Like I
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  Speaker 6: can keep doing this, I can keep doing this. We
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  Speaker 6: can with it exactly because it's like it's just because
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  Speaker 6: with R and B music, like you have the highs,
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  Speaker 6: you have the loads, you got the up temple, the slogan,
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  Speaker 6: so like the entire time you're on the roller coaster.
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  Speaker 6: So every every time you go to an event, it's
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  Speaker 6: a different feel. Definitely, it's a different field, different atmosphere.
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  Speaker 6: And also, like we said, it brings the women. The
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  Speaker 6: first time I went out was single. Yeah, so I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: I did it.
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  Speaker 2: I did it.
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  Speaker 3: But that's exactly I went outside, Michael, we left with the.
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  Speaker 2: Zero you but.
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  Speaker 6: You know, so I went to the Upper Darby one.
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  Speaker 6: Uh you had the one at the Little Course Center.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a big arena show that we did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that ship was tough.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Appreciate the the hook up, of course, that was great.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Got there.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: We had our own little box seats, had a nice
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: center cut view of the stage.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really cool that you've been able to see,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: you know, our showing so many different spaces, right like
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: from and I think been to a Filmore show. Yes, yes,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: so you've seen just in the Philly market alone. How
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: you know, we have been able to adjust and adapt
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: and put stuff in you know, a small venue to
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: a mid size venue, all the way up into an arena.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: But hopefully the the feeling and the and the what
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: you got from the show at each of those levels
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: was still the same.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: Because there's always gonna be new R and B music.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: So listen, man, I'm I'm that's my bag.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: That's my bag.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: They been here arguing about Drake every three weeks talking
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: about hip hop hip hop artists.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I have no clue who they're talking about.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: But when we get into the R and B bag,
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: I'd be wide away, full attentive in that commerce.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: So we're still getting that back though, you know, hell
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: we do.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: How are some of your favorites done right now? Maybe?
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Oh that's my brother, Yeah, yeah, that's actually a joke. Mike.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: So so like a hater. Mike's not a fan of
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: He doesn't even know his music. He doesn't know his music.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: But the thing is he loves to bring him up.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: I'm like, you know, Eric, Bellinger is talented, bro extreme,
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: He's written more songs that you sing every day like
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: it's not his music looking at listen. Eric Bellinger is
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: my guy. But right now the artist I really, I'm
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: really digging.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: So give me some new artists to some new well
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: you know who.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: My girl Coco Jones Jones, all right, that's that's that
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: could have been my wifey, but then she decided that
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: she wanted to get engaged Domin Mitchell. So now we
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: got talking at the moment. So so we got the
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: Coco Jones is we have the Leon Thomas Thomas. I
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: was on Leon early. This new project had to grow
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: on me. But you think about the deluxe that ships
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: fire bro.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we did, especially fire him in La where
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I interviewed him about the deluxe. We have a we
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: have another event series called Interlude, so we did. We
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: put like three hundred people in a hotel, uh and
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: we got to talk about like the creative process of
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: him making the album and stuff like that, and he
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: had never done anything like that before with like that
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: type of live audience. It was really cool and we
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: got to give people, give fans like a sneak preview
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: before it came out. So yeah, man, big shout out
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: to Leon like a ted talk for his Yeah that's
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: tough man. Okay, that's to coco Leon.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: So we got coco Leon.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: And if I had to throw new, new, new new.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Try to stumble them, try to stumble them.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Hold on that I had to take to my bad
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: this one.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna say, Jaydon, Oh, that's young boy.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: His his uh.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Desography isn't big enough yet, but he's just But I
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: got a hundred shares in that guy. Yeah, that kid,
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: he's going to be something for sure. That's gonna be something.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Mega and l a read and usher.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: Hell yeah, and listen, we know the last time I
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: should put his stamp on something, it turned into.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Justin Bieber exactly. Yea, No, man, Jaydon is really like
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: he was in our office the other day. It's just
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: such a sweet kid. And really uh really as a
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: student you know of the game and and all he
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: wants to do is just perform and and and dance
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: and and and share his gift with the world. And
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: uh really excited about like the future for what he
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: has coming.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Because he started off acting, started off acting.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, voice acting even yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: I remember seeing him because he was one of the
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: young kids that was cursed with the little bowl hair
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: hairline cut. So like when I seen him, I was like, what,
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: like you remember the black part Ranger, Jamie Fox, the little.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: They then straighten it out there like we're just gonna
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: do what we're gonna do. Yes, exactly, So like when
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: he came up, like, yo, why does kid look familiar?
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: The first song I heard of his was a ship?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: What is it? What is it? Is it?
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: It's the blue It's it's like a blue cover uh
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: blue album.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Arch Lullaby was the first Paradise Yes.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, yeah, I sent it into the chap
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: Of course, anybody ignored it because it's R and B
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: and I definitely did it. Ain't nobody respond, But that's cool,
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: that's okay. I do that for all the music.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, god, damn people, I'm trying to put
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: you all on some new ship. But have you heard
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: this guy Jayda? Six months later, it's like Keenan's like.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: That, I do do that Like I did that like
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: two months ago. I was like, have you heard of
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: this guy? Destined Conrad?
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: It's amazing.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I have worn out, Uh, same mistake. I played that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: like four billion times.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my goodness, so good man. There's so much
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I think. You know, what's really interesting about the R
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: and B space right now is that there are I
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: feel like never before in music history, honestly, has there
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: been so many talented artists that people actually don't really
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: know about on a on a on a national, even
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: a global scale. I think there's so much music to consume,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: and there's in our space, specifically in R and B,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: there's so few platforms to uh sort of highlight that stuff,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: which is which is why we're more We're getting more,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: way more into this and like helping artists with visibility
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: and like becoming more of a platform because a lot
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: of people just don't know where to find this stuff,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I think that people
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: are on like playlist overload, and you know, what the
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: DSPs do is cool in terms of curation and letting
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: you know like what's next, but oftentimes it's just like
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: a song will just come on next on a playlist
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: or after you've played something and maybe you're working out
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: or you're in a car and you don't really have
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: time to like save it. And then go see who
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: it is and go back and you know what I mean,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: And if that three minutes and thirty seconds is on
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: to the next one, you might have really rocked with
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: the song, but you that was just your that was it,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And oftentimes I think to
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: really get introduced to an artist, you need to see
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: them a few different times. They say, like in sales,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: you need to see something seven times before you actually purchase,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: And I think it's the similar sort of like route
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: with an artist. You might see like Jaydaen pop up
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: on your Instagram feed and then you like might hear
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: the lullaby song and then you might see that Usher
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: signed him, and there's all these different touch points, but
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: before you actually go to his like Apple music or
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Spotify profile and then like hit following and save an album,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: and like, you just might need a few touch points.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: And so we're trying to be like a few of
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: those touch points with these new artists that you can
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: get invested in. But yeah, it's a there's a lot
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: of talent out there, but I just think there's not
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: as much curation in the R and B space as
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: there needs to be.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Hell, you get them have you seen the shift and
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: where the industry is going, being that there's been a
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: lot of pressure on the DSPs in terms of financials
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: and just discovery things like things like that with what
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: you're doing with your platform. Have you seen the shift
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: behind the scenes in terms of trying to get that
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: artist to reach out and things like that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, man, Honestly, like the biggest shift that
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I've seen. Right, and we speak to all the DSPs
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: because they really want to know. Okay, I'll say this,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: there's not many more people that are like going to
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: be new sign ups on a lot of these platforms
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: right right. They're not getting new Apple Music is not
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: like bringing in new subscribers, nor neither of Spotify. It's
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: like people have gotten whatever music platform they they picked it,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: and then now they're like sticking with them. Where there
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: is opportunity for growth is in more like developed nations
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: or developing nations. So all across the continent of Africa,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: a lot of these places are just getting like high
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: speed internet and getting online, and so there's opportunity for growth.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: There a lot of places in Latin America same thing,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: and that's where a lot of growth is happening. But
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I think what the goal of a lot of DSPs
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: and platforms are now is to keep people on the
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: services longer and in different ways. And I think that's
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: why you see Apple Music starting with the DJ sets,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: because they know people are on Apple Music, but it's like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: how do we get people to stay on Apple Music
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: longer outside of just playlists? And so so you see, yeah,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: you know, you see utif I putting a huge commitment
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: into podcasting and video on the app, you know, because
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: they just need people to stay on these things longer.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: And so I think that's what we're seeing, and that's
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: a part of It's like how can we fit into
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: those arenas, you know what I mean? How can we
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: have DJ sets on Apple Music? How can we have
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: more long form video content on Spotify and YouTube and
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: that type of thing? And and and I think from
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: an artist's standpoint, what we're and I'll sort of get
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: into like a lot of people, so most of our
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: business is like A B two C, right, It's like
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: selling tickets to consumers, right, so, but we also have
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: a part of our business that a lot of people
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: don't know about that's more B to B and we
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: are sort of like we provide services to artists to
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: help them market their music and their touring. So you'll
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: see a lot of times, you know, we might help
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: get more eyes and visibility on an artist content or
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: help produce content for them. Excuse me, where helping them
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: with like social media content that they're actually putting on
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: their own channels and it has nothing to do with
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: like going on on and be on these platforms. So,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: and one of the other things that we help artists
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: with is helping them develop their own email and SMS
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: list so that they can directly get people to listen
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: to their music versus versus waiting on an algorithm or
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: an editor editor at Spotify or Apple to put their
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: music on a playlist. Having that direct fan communication is
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: really really important and that's how we've able to grow
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: our brand. So now we're just helping artists do the
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: same thing.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, Now you were talking about.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: How you make the playlist for the shows. Yep, how
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: often are you How often are you like switching that out?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: We're like, like, what goes into that?
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah? So we tour in two seasons every year. We
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: have the winter spring.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Or is it?
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we have winter spring and then we have Fall
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Winter Winter Spring is from January to May, and then
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Fall Winter is from August to November. Each of those
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: seasons we have I want to say, about six to
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: eight resident DJs, all women DJs that that play our
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: R and Billy Live shows, and then we have male hosts.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Each one of the DJs has their own set per season.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: So me and our music director shout out to Tierra
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Monique every season. Oh that's for me. Yeah, I got
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: a little rest. Shout out to Corey. We were at
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: the wedding last night. My voices. It's a late night,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: thank you. But but yeah, So every tour season we
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: develop new sets for each of the DJs and we
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: run that for whatever that season is, and it's broken up.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Our shows are are like a play almost with like
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: a beginning, middle, and end, and we take people on
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: this journey of R and B and it's a lot
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: of structure in the show, highs, lows, all this, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: we have these sort of must play songs for each
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: season that we put into uh into the sets, and
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: then we give the DJs a little bit of creative
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: freedom to build the sets around those must play songs
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: and the and the blocks of the show that we have, uh,
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: and then we go back and forth with them and
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: approve it, and then and then you actually have to
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: see it in action. And then we see it in action,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: and then we tweak it and amend things, and then
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: it happens all over again on the next season.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: But what was the most recent season?
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: What was the most like? It's the current season. Okay, okay,
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: the current season, Yeah, which is that's the fall winter, right,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: so you just kicked it off recently. Yeah, just kicked
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: it off in August. We're in the beginning of a
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: tour season right now. So what are the current like
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: must plays? At least a couple. Yeah, I'll give you
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: a couple, so we have I mean, it's it's there
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: are different chunks of the show, so in like the
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: new R and B portion of the show. Some of
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: those are like the Chris Brown and Leon Thomas Mutt remix.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Let's see Klan's fold ye Smasher.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking that two seconds is phenomenal. Let's see.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Uh, there is uh a justin bieber Yukon. But an edit.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: That's an edit that our homegirl DJ honey Beat did.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: She's not like a resident DJ but she's worked with
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: us in the past, especially on our office hours DJ sets,
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: And as soon as you said Yukon, I already knew yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: and uh those are those are a few I can name
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: and I could think of off the top of like
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: the New R and B set, and then there's just
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: so many others that I just couldn't remember from like
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: the from like the old schools part portion of the show.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: And that is it usually one DJ per show or
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: is it multiple now?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah? One DJ per show and one host. Yeah, so
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: it's a it's a male and female on stage. But
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: it's very it's very uh intentional to have only women
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: DJ at that show because seventy percent of the artists
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: are women. Uh, seventy percent of the audience is women.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: And we wanted to we wanted we wanted women to
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: like see themselves represented on the stage because a lot
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: of times in our culture, and when I say our culture,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: I mean Black culture, we don't really see a lot
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: of women DJs.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Definitely under I feel like underrepresented in music production. Yeah,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: like you said DJ, yeah for sure just as capable
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: if not.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely, And so yeah, that was a
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: really really important thing that I that I wanted to
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: shift into about like a few a few years into
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: the brand. It wasn't like that in the beginning, but
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: once I started to do that, I thought it was
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: really important to continue doing that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: What was the trigger for that? What was the catalyst
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: for that change?
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: To be honest, I had a problem with one of
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: the guys who was djaying and uh sad story, but
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: had to fire him and the opening DJ at the
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: time had to fill in for an entire show. So
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: the opening DJ was a woman. Big shout out to
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: d and the DJ who would At first it was
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: two DJs, but then we had to get rid of one.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: She filled in, she killed the show, and that was
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: the We knew that there needed to be a shift.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Women only from here and there was always one.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: It wasn't even that, but it was just like the
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: way that she just crushed that shot and never forget
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: it was in Atlanta. She just held it down. There
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: was something about how she connected with the audience throughout
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: the entire show. I was like, yeah, this just is
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: this is just how a curative vibe. Yeah yeah, and
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: uh and and and the women in our audience really
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: really notice and appreciate that and feel and feel seen.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: So yeah, just never looked back.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw when y'all went right, and I saw
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. I was like, damn, I really regretted.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Not I don't like going outside, but I regret at
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: that time.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: So we definitely should. Yeah, another one question for you,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: So yeah two weeks?
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Two weeks?
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Is it really?
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know the schedule, but uh, he knows.
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: How you get baller status, you know exactly. But so
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: you said that you guys make the playlist for the season.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: Now you've been doing this.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Congratulations, Thank you? What songs if any? Are you tired
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: of hearing? Because I know, like with black people, go ahead, God,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: This because like I know, like I've seen a couple
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: of times like people saying we can you talked it out?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's one, Like people like can we stop?
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: We can we talk?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Can we talk?
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Tevin Campbell? Can we talk about to fight?
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: You over there?
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: Too?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Valentine? Yeah, so yeah those are my big bros. So okay,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I personally you don't need to hear can we talk
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: in a live R and B setting? Ever? Again, that's
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: in every every day Yeah, problem, And I think that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you know, people come to our show
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: and they I mean, it's it's hardly ever played anymore.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: And and then sometimes you know, when the DJ goes
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: down to meet fans afterwards, and you know, that's one
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: of the it's like I didn't hear any Tevin, I
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: didn't hear can we talk? Or I didn't hear you know,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Joe Tosy, or I didn't hear r Kelly. That's a
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: whole nother.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: And you're not.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Those other ones might come back, yeah, probably, but yeah,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: you know, people and you know, the common answer is
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: just like we've been doing this ten years exactly. We
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: are five hundred plus shows deep. You know, there are
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: so many other records that you can hear, and if
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: you want to hear that, I know you want to
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: hear it in like this type of setting and be
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: able to sing with in a community setting and sing
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: at the top of your lungs with a bunch of
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: other people. But there's many other places that you can
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: go and like get that experience.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Just go out one night.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know probably period. Yeah, it's a unique experience. Yeah, so,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: but you know, but I still understand that like oftentimes
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: at our shows. It's it's somebody's first time going to
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: our show, and they might expect something, but you know,
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: we can't.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: We will.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think we would be around ten years and
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: still growing at a rapid pace if we just kept
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: stuck doing the same thing.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Over and over again.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: Right yeah, So because like you barely hear what's his
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: other song? I'm ready mm hmm.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah I love that record.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: I love that song too. That's my ship, Yeah, that's
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: my ship. But the thing is you never hear that.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: You only hear you talk exactly.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, you play the other one like that.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: But now, if if Tevin Campbell popped up at one
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: of our shows as a special guest, I mean, he's
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: gonna want You're gonna the form. Yeah, it would be
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: crazy if he would have.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: He would have to if we listen to each other's heart.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so like you that already answered my question, Like
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you had to have artists on.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: This guest right yeah?
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah all the time. So what you never know who's
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: gonna pop up?
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: When is that? What was that first artist where you booked?
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: It was like I've done it.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I guess what you're asking is like an
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: artist that we booked that I've been excited to have.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Excited to have.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: We're like, you're like, damn, I like I didn't expect
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: to get it like this big artist.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: It's like, okay, well, let me let me give you
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: let me give you a real answer here, right. So,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever felt that way on
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: booking an artist, because at the end of the day,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: there's just a dollar amount attached to every artist, right,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: So maybe I've felt a little bit better when there's
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: been an artist that I've really rocked with or been
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: a fan of, and and they've done it on the
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: love and they just wanted to they just wanted to
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: pull up like for free. There's been a lot. I
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: don't I don't even know if I want to share
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: those because you know, I don't want to. I don't
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: want to mess up their potential.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Book in the future. She was the one that you
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: were very excited about. No amount atta like the first one,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: like you were really excited to.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Have, Like you're really a fan aside from the money.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Wow, I'm going to be in the same room as
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: blank blank and they're gonna work with me.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Again, I don't really get uh yeah, not really. I
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: will say it's I will I will say uh one
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: for my mom's sake, because my mom was at this
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: show and she is one of her favorite artists of
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: all time. So being able to have an artist that
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: my mom really respected and that I listened I listened
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: to growing up from my mom playing it in the
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: crib was Eric Abatu. I think that even though we
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: had a problem and and she kind of cursed me
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: out on stage, she said, for sure to find me.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: She she basically the show. I talked about this on
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Tanks podcast. But the show, oh yeah maybe, oh yeah,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, I was I didn't give the name on
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: the podcast.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: You did not get the name.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But no, no, no, no, no, it's all good. I
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: mean it's it's it's footage. But yeah, we had to
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: cut her set short for some problems that we were having,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: and she wasn't too happy about it. But then after
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: the show she was like the sweetest you know woman
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: and gave me a hug and told me that she
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: really had a good time. Some times they just got
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: to get that artist. She's mad at the idea. Yeah, yeah, man,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: you know and but but but to answer your question.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: That artist was really it was just really cool having
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: my mom be like in the front row watching the show,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: knowing that, you know, her son put this festival on
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: and she got to see one of her favorite artists
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: of all time. I think that was one that was
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: special to me. Outside of that, Uh, it's not really
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: like artists. It's more so like that I that I
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: get excited about. It's more so just about, like I
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: don't know, the work that's being done and the impact
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: that we have, Like I get more excited about. I
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: get more excited about like how many people we employed,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: or or how we can help somebody's career, or how
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: we can you know, help take an artist from like
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: this point to like this point. Yeah, those are the
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: things that excite me more so than just like working
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: with the name, because I've worked with a lot of
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: people over.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: My Yeah, I forgot that you did the festivals because
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: I also went to the festival at the was that
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: the bb and T Center game?
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: You had?
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: I told you who would you had you had rs
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: VP there?
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bobby, Bobby like, I'm like this, we have at
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: that show. We had a few other people at that show.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: I can't remember, Yeah, you had R v P, which
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: is Ray J, Bobby and Eric out of that show too.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Eric, he started the night off. Yes, shout out to them.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: But you know what that's interesting speaking of Bobby b Oh, yeah,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the U between.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: These two songs.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: All right, yeah, Bobby B tell me or Cisco thong song,
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: tell me all the thank you?
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you. From an R and B expert, we shall
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: move on admicably. How would you get that right? Those strings?
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care, nay.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Tim and Bob is like legend legendary, and I think
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: they got some new stuff like that they're working on.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: I've heard through the grapevine.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're getting this here.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: I actually heard a few tracks that some new artists
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: that they're working with, and uh yeah, those guys super legendary.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: That's the dope thing about R and B is that,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: like you know, the Yeah, I have a long tangent
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: to go on about this, but the producers, right, are
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: so a lot of a lot of the music in
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: R and B. R and B, when you do it right,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: it's timeless. So there's obviously sounds that stamp like the
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: nineties and the two thousands and or the early two
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: thousands and the late two thousands and then even currently now.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: But because the music is so timeless and it spans
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: across generations, you know what happens is like the production
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: and the producers they can have a lot longer of
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: a career because like a lot of stuff comes back around.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: So like people I feel like right now kind of
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: want that Tim and Bob sound, you know what I mean,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: They want that like Dark Child, Rodney Jerk can sound
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: of the early two thousands, you know what I mean.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Like they're like even when you listen to like Folded right,
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: like that reminds you of Brandy, But yeah, you know
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: what I mean. Like and and so there's still a
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: space for a lot of those producers to work with
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: artists now, and and I'm just I'm excited to even
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: you know, we're making music and putting artists together, and
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: I'm excited to like just see where the next ten
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: years of R and B is like going.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: That's going off of that.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I also feel like and a difference between R and
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: B and hip hop again is that there's like the
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: generational gaps aren't as like there's no there's less friction
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: between the eight like the older people and the younger
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: people and the new and the old, like they're willing
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: to work with each other or they're not afraid to
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: draw from that inspiration.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, where there's like in hip hop world is like
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: it's mine.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: They look down at this era for doing it this way,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: and this era looks like, oh, you know, it's just
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: friction and it's not as much as like there's more
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: of a community of give and take and willing to share.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's true. I do think though, with
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: the I do think a lot of older R and
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: B fans though, are a bit more closed minded and
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: they don't and I think they they should open their
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: palette up and open their just just just let these look.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Then I always say this, they're never they're not making
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: new music from the nineties. It's just not happening yet, right,
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: But people always say that the nineties is there, that's
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: what they want to hear, that's what they love. But
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: there's so many artists that can that are reminiscent give
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: you that feel. But you just got to give them
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: a chance. And that's why an opportunity.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: It's the fans because like that's the same thing him.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I was like the old head like it's people aren't
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: rapping out there. It's like, no, there's a lot of
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: you know, rapping like you think they should. Like you
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: just got to it's all music, Like you've got to
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: be willing to look.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, but see that. Back to the ecosystem, right, like
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: there's there's, there's I'll name all the people or all
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: the pillars would make up a healthy ecosystem in a genre,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: and specifically, let's talk about R and B. At first,
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: there's the artist and the artists. Let's let's say the
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: artist and producer, right, you have to you have to
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: be making quality there. Then there's the record label, because
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: the record label and you know, one could argue that
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: the record label is not as necessary these days, but
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: they're still a part of the ecosystem, right, and you
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: need the record label signing and providing opportunities to get
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: these artists seen and heard. Right. Then it's the media
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: platforms and outlets right to be the curators of those
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: records and those artists. And right then it's the fans,
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: right and then I would say, lastly, it's the it's
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: the it's the promoters and the touring companies and that
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: type of thing right. And I think that for a
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: for a genre to be healthy, right, you need thriving
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: each one of those each one of those players needs
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: to be like thriving. And I think in R and
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: B we have a lot of work to do at
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: each one of those uh stops and that's where you know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: and to be honest, we're we're playing in each of
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: those spaces. But but it can't it can't just be us,
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, It's gotta be uh, it's
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: got to be a team effort. And I think sometimes
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: R and B for for whatever reasons, you know, I
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: talked to my buddy Al Branch about this a lot,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I think, and I've heard La
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: Read say this on on the R and B Money podcast,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: But there's not a lot of there's not a lot
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: of black record labels and boutique labels anymore specifically in
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: R and B that that you know, back in the day,
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: there were so many places that there was real like
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: entrepreneurship and independence and people who wanted to sign, promote
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: and produce music that was surrounded around like black love.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if that's the case anymore, but
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: we didn't stop loving each other, you.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean? And uh so, how long until
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: you get that back?
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: Got some things cooking? Yeah so, uh but we're going
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: to start to sign artists and and put out projects
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: and and I see, I see the tenement. We can
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: go a little longer if you guys want. Hm, Okay, we.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: We just got a couple of games you want to play?
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: And then yeah, okay, I mean a couple of games
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: and a couple more maybe a couple more questions.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, alright, man, you guys, you guys are great. Okay, thanks.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: So Usually on our Patreon episodes, we do something with
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: a called a blind drinking where there's a list of
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: something a topic and you ranked them blindly.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, today we're gonna do R and B debut singles.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: You're gonna name.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Them from I'm gonna and then we're just gonna put
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: them one through five. All right, this is not what's next?
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: Not knowing what's next?
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Oh I like this debut singles.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: R and B debut singles.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: This one might be controversial because it's someone's debut as
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: a solo artist. The beyonswer Beyonce crazy in Love?
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Got it?
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: So hold?
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: I just are we just giving it a ranking from
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: one to five.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: One through five, but you have to keep it there
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: after the next ones pop up. You just have to
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: say this is where it's going.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Where you think what else? What else might be there?
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Oh oh so you I don't know, So you're gonna
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: give five total?
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: Got it? Okay?
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: So like I would put that at like two.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Crazy and five being the highest, No, five being the lowest.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, five being the lowest.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Got it? All right? I have a different opinion you have.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: The reason being is because I mean, it's a it's
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: a massive feature. It is so it almost feels like
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: a cheat code because at the time, Hove was a
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: lot bigger where Beyonce was, you know what I mean.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: And uh, obviously she was massive too, But I do
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: think that that combination and then the whole relationship and
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: you know, that was kind of the It wasn't like
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: the introduction of their relationship, but I think there was yeah, yeah,
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and her breakout from from
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: the child. Yeah. So I'm going to put it at
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: like four simply because I would put people higher who
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: were able to do it by themselves. Okay, So we
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: have two four. Mike I'll go with four.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Riding with four an any objection?
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Do we have an opinion?
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: I'll go with three.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so we got most for so we
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: we're going to go four four.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's the most. Yeah.
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we could do four only because like I had
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: that hired because it was just smash. Beyonce was crazy,
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: was already a uh listen you make Monique do that
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: dance on stage? Yes, you're good girls one.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I mean they I mean I think
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: they were just in Paris and on the Renaissance tour
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: and I think she brought whole out and they did that,
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: and it's really twenty years later, it's still went still
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: went crazy. I think it's about twenty years Huh, it has.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: To be close to it.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: It was highly anticipated, like we were all waiting for
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: Beyonce to go solo and what would that look like?
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: What would that sound like? Yeah? Yeah, damn twenty two
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: years twenty shit man? All right?
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Ayes, So we got Danger in Love.
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: That album crazy God, crazy love, crazy love crazy personally,
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: that's my favorite album.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Was that Beata No, that's it's called right, Yeah, The
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: title track was crazy to that ballad that signs.
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, that whole album she was just was
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: deep in the traditional R and B bag.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: That's sure, all right. Next song, D'Angelo brown Sugar. Ooh,
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: that's that's a man.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a warning.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Now, these are all like nineties, early two thousands.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: It can't be lower than three. I'm sorry. I'm gonna
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: say too. Brown Sugar didn't hit me the way it
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: hit everybody else.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Is that an age thing?
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's age thirty two. So when brown Sugar came,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I was a child.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean saying, yeah, I'm thirty eight, so I
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: was a kid. But I just it's a bang. I
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: think it's just my mom. Man. My mom was just
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: such an R and B.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Your mom sounds like she was one of the first
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: neo soul.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's what was playing in the house
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: all day, you know what I mean. And those are
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: the videos that were on Those are just facts. Yeah,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: that time that that that I'm gonna have to say
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: three for that one too, three three.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going two on that one because the sound
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: was different. It didn't sound like a generic R and B.
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: Wasn't the ballad, It wasn't like that neo soul thing
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: was still kind of new at that time.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: I'll go to you love.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I found out like three months ago
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: that song was about weed.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: Mmm is it?
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Is it a or or is it about like some
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: of them are like some of the names are like strange.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: We like guy.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, every but that's what that's what. Yeah, so like
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: the double entendre game. But like that's that to me,
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: the creativity and in that, I mean that was like
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: that was that was back when R and B was
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: being played on the radio constantly, like they were running
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: that record. I remember how ninety seven.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Was just always bombs, always shout out the bombs. Funk.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Fle's gonna be done at the Monday.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: That's not true, he's changing his time slot.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: That Yeah, rollout. We're never seeing you d J again.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: You bumm.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: We're not going to get into that because yeah, we.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Phoned it in, but we we talked about it before. Yeah,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: all right, So where's.
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: A I had it at five in my list, but
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: I think we got it two and the three so
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: too too.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: So we got two brown Sugar for crazy and love.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, next song, Mary J.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: Blige, you remind me that was her debut single, it
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: wasn't real love.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I looked it up. Let me see,
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: let me see, let me I'm not gonna lie. I
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: need some writer, let me see, let me see. It
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: says you remind me Wow, nineteen ninety.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: One from that's not ringing the bell for me? You
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: remind me you were like the melody of it.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: I keep I keep wanting to go. You're like you
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: are man. Everything that's a different Yeah.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how did that song sound? Because I'm having you.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: Oh that's a five for me.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: That's good. Yeah, yeah, you walking? Yeah, give me.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Have to put that.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: Growing up on the East Coast, that was ringing off.
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: It rang off, but but it wasn't it was It
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: wasn't real real love.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: Was it wasn't real love? Yeah?
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: I think single is the one that that's going to
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: be a five.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: That's fair.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah we can sorry, that's going.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: To five, all right? See what you think about this one, Brandy?
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: I want to be down. Oh that might be two. Sure,
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: the Angelo is already too. I thought, oh, so we
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: got three and we want to open three. I want
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: to be down.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I feel like always sneaky.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: You got a banger always waiting crazy.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: That was that's see that like like like the most
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: important thing in in song is melody. I think there's
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: nothing more important than melody, right, Like you could have
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: what and when you say, if you just say the
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: words I want to be down people, you go, that's
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: just like y'all just did right now, Yes, you know
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: what I mean, I don't. I didn't hear when we
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: named any of those other songs. Nobody hummed the melodies, right,
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: And that's just such an incredible melody that it's gonna
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: be I'm gonna have to go number one.
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: But that's that's thinking. That's exactly what makes Brandy so
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: great is she she focused in on like melodies and
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: laying of her songs that like when the song hits,
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: you're you're you're gonna hummke, You're gonna sing.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: It's just it's unnatural. I mean, it's just natural that
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: it's just we just.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: Again we're talking about like the ranking is debut singles, right,
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: Like debut singles, you can't really like you're not gonna
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: hum like you know what I mean? Like, but that
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: I want to be down, man, that's that's cementing in
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: your brain.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: All right, y'all went the bat real hard for it.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: So we're gonna is gonna want one. I think that's
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: number one for.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Artist. That's how you break out what I want to
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: be top of that.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was out of what you got, So what's
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: going Whitney once Whitney stamp you.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: That's just Whitney Houston stamped that.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: So automatic Number three is going to be s w
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: V right here.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: I think that's a good job.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: I think we're good. I think we did pretty good.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the list would be number one, Brandy I
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: want to be down, Number two, D'Angelo Brown Sugar, number three,
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: s w V right Here, number four, Beyonce Crazy in Love,
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: number five, Mary J.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: Blish. You remind me that's a damn good list.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: If I had any complaint, maybe I was mad, But
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I like your argument that it's a debut, but it's
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: not really and it's like kind of like you had
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: extra like.
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: It's steroards pumped to it's like paint on the song
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: in early two thousand.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got t paint on the song.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's prettydamn good list.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so that's our blind ranking for today like that.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: The next one is going to be like a this
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: or that. Okay, So I'm going to say an album
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: or I'm gonna say two albums, and you're gonna say
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: which which one are you going to want to keep?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: God? What do you want to pick it up? So
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: we'll start mhm'll start off rough.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Alicia Keys, the Diary of Alicia Keys or Confessions.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: It's not roughness, okay, confession.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to confession. Okay, light work. But here's
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: both of those CDs with my own money from working
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: at Kroger.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Both those CDs down.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so between Columbus, Ohio and New York. Okay, Kroger
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Midwest thing too. I thought that was just in the South, No,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: Midwest to Okay, yeah, yeah, it's actually the biggest grocery
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: store in the grocery chain in America. But you know
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: how groceries have like a bunch of different sub brands
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: underneath them. So in LA it's Ralphs, but it's Kroger
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: is the parent company?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Copy Okay? All right, So we've got.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Confessions, confessions, confessions or the immanse space of Mimi confession confessions. Still, yeah,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: confessions or I can't say that Confessions or D'Angelo Voodoo Confessions.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: Professions I like so much, great album, it ain't Confessions.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: I think you started off with the Michael Jordan that
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: the R and B.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: I didn't if anything can knock it off Confessions or
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Aliyah the album Alia Confessions, Confessions, Confessions or Destiny's Child
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: Destiny Fulfilled Confessions Confessions.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're asking a bunch of dudes.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: You start with okay, okay, Confessions or eighty seven oh
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: one by Confessions.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: Personally, eighty seven oh one is my ship. I feel
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: like that that that album. Now again Confessions, no skips,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: but eighty seven on one. I'm playing it back after
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: it's done.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Eight eighty seven on one, has can you help me? Right?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: That's the one where you don't have to call yes, yeah, yes,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: that was like the number one.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: That's I'm still going to Confession.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: I'm still going to Confessions.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Listen to Confessional answer.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: But yeah, for me, Confessions, it just stamps a time
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: in my life going from young man to adolescents, you
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. And it was just like I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: just remember so vivid memories of just like growing up.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: All right, what's your biggest memory from that album.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: Oh man, I don't know if I guess my lady's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: right over the.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Bathroom.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: I just think, like, you know, this is just like
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: house parties getting your first dance, you know what I mean,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: where like a girl's backing it up on you type
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: of thing, you know what I mean. Like that was
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: Confessions man handling. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: just like just like, yeah, just being just being young
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: and like going from you know, not like you're just
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: hanging around your boys all the time, to like you
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: actually want to.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Take a woman on a date.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, everything, you know what I mean, And now you've
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: got a little pocket change to do that. That that
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: is the Confessions and really in the dating world, yeah,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: in the dating world for real, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: that's that's just an usher was to me, like and man,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: this is like what we need R and B that
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: can sort of teach young men how to court young women,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And I feel like that's
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: what that album was.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of the R and B now dates
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: just straight to.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: The Yeah you know, yeah, how do we get there?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: How do we how do you probably respectfully get there?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: You don't have like you know, I guess it definitely
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: was more of that back before, Like it was a
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: lot of I like to say, there's a lot of yearners.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: There's no.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: I think they're out there, you know, but yeah, it was.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: It was the other thing with Confessions that was so
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: dope with the songwriting on that was like, you know,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: a lot of those records are about taking accountability, you
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, and like when you mess up,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: what you need to do to fix it, you know?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: And I think I think just like that real life,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: the realities of love and relationships. Maybe sometimes that's missing
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: from a lot of the lyrics in today's R and B,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: but I think it's out there if you, if you dig.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: I think there's artist like Cleo Soul that I really
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: kind of God, I love giving giving you that that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: incredible pen game and songwriting. Uh yeah, so you just
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: got you just gotta you know, I just gotta find it.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: But I should wasn't just courting these women. He was
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: also playing in their face too, because.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Every time I was in l A, I was with
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: my girl. Yeah, he's playing in their face.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: Also with remind me he going up to a whole
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: bunch of random girls just be like, you remind me
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: of a young joy.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: That the one thing I had back in the.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Say yeah, he was like, listen, it's cool to I
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: appreciate you, but you you remind me of somebody.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: That's why back to melody, man, That's why melody is
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: like the most important thing oftentimes. You know, I was
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: singing songs when I was a kid, like, uh, baby
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: went with grinds.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Oh too close?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so exact we have.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: You know, but that song starts is crazy? Yeah what
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: if you can tell right now? Ye up? But had
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: no cre was singing at the top of my lungs
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: in the back seat. That's too much yearning for sure
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: Like the the artist that I would say that probably
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: on like the male side of yearning would probably be like, uh,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: give you on like is like like he's he's he's
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: looking finding and also like talking about the trouble ships
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: of love?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Would you throw in that mix as well? I don't
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: listen to that much.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: I don't think I was. I don't think I would
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: put in a yearning category. I definite would have given
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: you on that. Yeah, but I don't think I put
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: certain that he's not a proper yearner.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: Because like, give me on crying on the tracks on
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: some of them, it's like, you know, I believe, Yeah.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: We need more singing in the rain R and B.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: We don't have that that much anymore. Shirt open in
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: the world. Yes, yes, yes, it's like like.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: Nipples in the breeze, like like uh, rag is one
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: wish which has been out for twenty years because he
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: just put a remix out with Jack Queese.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: You know, you know, you know what's funny. I know
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: people don't consider this stat right, but you know, you
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: know the party next door in Drake record. But it's
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: like that's kind of yearning which one. I mean it's
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: some bad oh yeah, you know, the vocals not the same.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: But but but you know what I mean, yeah it
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: is there. How did somebody about somebody? I know somebody
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: loves me? Yeah, like that is again, Yes, it's like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: from a vocal standpoint, the vocal doesn't.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Match like match the lyrics.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but but well, what I'm saying is like when
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: you when you hear young men and women sing that
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: record out in public, they're yearning, like people will be
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: like like literally that ye, like for real shows all
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: the time, and it's like, you know that's what That's
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: the cool thing about R and B is like, there's yearning.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: It just might sound a little different and look a
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: little different, but that's that's what yearning is now and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: people and people are yearning to yearn exactly yearning. I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: think we might drop a merch piece that says like yearner,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: real yearn.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: Not buying a heartbeat. That's what I need, bro. I
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: love a good ballot. Great ballat is gonna hit me
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: more any of tempo ships. Ten times out of ten,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: I'm in the gym working out to R and B.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: He but you're yeah, the song because thong song is
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: better song to tell me, I'm sorry, he said, tell
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: me how. He didn't even want to touch it. He
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: just I just want to know how you got that.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: In those genes. Yeah, he did say that the way
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: you popping it, it's killing me, killing me, killing He's dying.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: But Cisco was sold. But he said he was so
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: infatuated by that Throng that song. He's like, I don't
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: think you heard me that throng that on thro Throng.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just love the production on tell me like that.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what's what those instruments are.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: But they got a couple of viol strings. Yeah, some harps.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: It's like some harps on the harps of chord.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: And it is that one. Yeah, I don't know what
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: that is. That's completely digital.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: Can we rank the different types of R and B?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: Like where's dirty Mac R and B? Okay, thirty mac
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: R and B? What are the other options we have?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: Yearner yearning, yearning, Dirty Mac.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: Like dirty macin is like Chris Brown, your man ain't
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: me anything? That was a yeah, all the things, all
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: the things man.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Won't do, he don't eat it.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, So we got dirty mac in year yearning track
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: trapping trap maybe maybe it's called trap sole trap. So
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: that's definitely a genre in itself.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: And then just old school that's just just that ballad
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: that that Baby I Want You type.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: Of Is that different than yurning?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: Well, there's begging, so it's it's me I think begging.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: That's that's keep sweat, like the goat of begging, so
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: that he's a genre to himself. But like when it
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: comes to the Baby I Want You, there's the just
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: a generic love song type of ie where baby I
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: want you, but then there's the yearner that's like, you know,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: I have to.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: Have you, okay, okay, but then I think you also
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: got to put in like duets, you know what I mean.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: That's kind of a thing. And so.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Another thing that R and B is missing.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: We're not getting enough like collaboration.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Collaboration.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: I think we're getting in some collaborations Rising Tiller and.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: Chris collab albums or just club women and men like that,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: like like like yes, like like women and men.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Well, so there's that.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Now Alex Osley and Sago that I love that j
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: good in Plenty and Alex Osley and my boy destin
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: mm hmm, well.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: Together, that's like that's like the yeah, yeah, the Lucky
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: Day Lucky has one on.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I just listened to that ship That Ships that's dark.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: That album is dark.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Well she just went through Yeah, I mean those I mean.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I felt, you know, I don't feel
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: like I should be listening to this.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: It was just like I'm just in a different space
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: and life paperwork like the album it's it's a lot
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: of interludes like yeah, but they're mad too, you know.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: It's I just feel like like there's a pitchfork. Somebody
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: has a pitchfork while they're reading those you know, like
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: it's it's just.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: That that album is definitely going to hit the angry
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: hurt women.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: Which that's what that's that's that's what it was for
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: group of the genre angry like let me scorn, let
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: me Yeah? Yeah, scoring the R and B is that
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: that's a powerful you'll make We need a playlist that's
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: like scorned arms, Yeah, learning and scoring.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: Who's a score? What's a good scorned R and B?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: So Summer Walker, I mean, you know so much Summer
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: Walker's music is like really talking from real pain and hurt.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: You can almost say that with aren't With Mary J. Blige,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: there was a lot.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: Of been through some things music, Yeah, the whole album? Yeah?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: Or is that more revenge?
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: You can it's a combination, a combination because she gave
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: you both sides, Like she she gave you the how
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: could you do this?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: But then she also gave you fuck you?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, god damn, I think give you on also
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: maybe falling and scorned.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. All his ship is sad, sad,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: I'm hurting music, which that's I love that. I love
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: that but I know that we asked our discord if
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: they had any questions for you, okay, and I know
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: that one question that peaked me in my side.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Now this is it might be a two parter, okay,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: one which one are you going to ask?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Have you seen anybody at an R and B only.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: Get to I'm gonna say this correctly, get to in
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: the moment where it's like all right, y'all.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: Gotta go yes, like many many of the times, how
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: far around the basis?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Like how far around the basis did you see let's
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: answer like that they just hunched on the DA did
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: you see somebody going at home base where it's like.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: All right, y'all, are I really don't even want to
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: say this. I understand the fair that's no, I'm gonna
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it. I mean this is also like
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: a warning like please don't do this. Yeah, at our shows.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Or anywhere in public.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: That are into it. Yeah, there was. So at the
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: end of our shows, there's a there's a we kind
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: of we internally call it the freak Hours, right, like
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: kind of the hosting DJ get off stage play a
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: very sexy sort of playlist and we just literally for
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: the last like fifteen to thirty minutes of the show.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: We just let people.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: Listen for them to get out of there.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, during this time, we never forget this. But uh,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: there was a couple that, let me say this, this
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: is a two partter answer questions. One time in a
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: different city, there were people they were like on the
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: floor and they were simulating oral sex, but like dancing
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: on the floor. This is on the floor of like
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: a concert venue that everybody has been dancing on and
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: there's drinks spilled and all this, right, and they were
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: they were like, they're just sticky simulating this. One person
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: was on the back, one person was you know yeah
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: and like kind of just like just and again there's
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: like there's also like a circle around them and people
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: are just like right. So I was like, Okay, I
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: thought that was probably the craziest thing I've ever seen
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: ever at a show until you know this. Uh, let's
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: just say the next time that I was stunned and wild,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: was this actually was not a simulation? Oh and it
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: was in vivo. Yeah, it was actually happened live and
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: direct on the floor, that same action, just the same action.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: God damn, you stopped them before the money shot. Oh
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: my I was.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know how they stopped, but uh it did.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Oh you weren't there, like somebody told you, like are
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: we No?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: No, I was there. I was at this show. I
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: this is actually caught on video. It was something that
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: we had to keep like locked away to completely like
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: get rid.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Of that way.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but but I just you know, it's it's it's
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: crazy what the power of music, you know what what
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: alcohol music? Yeah? That yeah, but I just was like
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: I just kept you know, we spoke as a team
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: after it was like you don't why wouldn't you just
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: wait until you get home?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: And was it like jee suspend the freak the Freak Hours.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: No, the Freak Hours are still going strong, but you
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: keep the freaking. But it's just it's just uh yeah,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: I mean we we we you if you if you
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: ever go on our Instagram and you peruse some of
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: them like moments and clips, well we like to show cases,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: like it really is like a we show everything that
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: happens at the show, everything that we can. And and
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: to be honest, most shows are just they're just a
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: normal it's like going to a normal concert. It's just
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: you know, just R and B music and people are
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: dancing with each other and you know, but at some
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: point sometimes people do take it. I don't want to
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: say a little too far, but people just that sounds
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: like it too far, that that's too far. But some people,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: They just lost in the moment, yeah, you.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: Know what I mean. Some people are getting on the floor.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: Some people are you know, really enjoying the night with
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: their partner or somebody that they've just met, and they
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: just get excited. And we we like to show all
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: sides of R and B music because that's kind of
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: what it is. You know. There's like there's there's a
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: reason why want of the sub genres of R and
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: B is like called baby making music, you know what
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: I mean. And that's a part of the culture just
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: as much as like a ballad is. Right, So you're
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: going to see a room full of two thousand people
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: on our page like singing something from the Emancipation of Mimi.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: But as well you're going to see like some people
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: just freak dancing, you know what I mean, and getting
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: down and dirty and all of it is a part
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: of like R and B music. But I will say, please,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: that's the main camera right there, right okay right here. Hey,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: you guys who are coming to the show, just do
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: whatever you want to do. That's extremely nasty and vulgar.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: Please save that fro at home. We don't need just
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: scaring off the rest of the folks at the shows.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: That's more than fair.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Keep your pants on, yeah, keep it. Please, keep keep
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: your pants on, keep the zipper. Keep body clothes outside
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: of the other body parts.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that goes for that goes for everyone,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: both men and women. You know, Like, I don't know,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: as time has progressed, I've and I'm I'm a dad,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: and I know I sound like old right now, but
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: I've just seen more and more, uh skin being revealed.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: It's like from everyone, you know what I mean. And
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, you know, sometimes I'm just like it's
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: cool to like keep a little bit of mystery.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now that I got that least, what's the wildest
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: outfit you've.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: Seen, I mean recently, No, that that's kind of normal, sensitized. Yeah, Now,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: I would say, uh, there's a there's a there's a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: fashion trend going on with young women right now with
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: like these tennis skirts, I think all.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: The bubble skirts.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, like you know that. I guess that they
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: look like skirts that you play tennis, kay, and typically
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: they're covering the butt right like until they're not. Yeah,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: there was a young woman at a show recently that
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: just left nothing to imagination. There was there was the
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: skirt was above the butt, you know what I mean.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: And it was like it was it was like it
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: was like a whoa a waistband like a yeah. And
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: this was something that everybody was like, every like fans
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: in the audience staff at the show, everybody was like,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: what are you doing? Who's coming out like this? But
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: like Liza at the Lakers game, like you.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: Get your booty off these seats here?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But uh but you know, hey, that's probably one
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: of the wildest things that I've seen in recent times.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's say I think one more question before we go.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: Do you have any advice or what one advice would
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: you give to someone up and coming trying to do
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: kind of what you're doing, not an R and B,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: but just in that entrepreneurial space.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So you want to produce like live shows or
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: you want to maybe what aspect of what I'm doing
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: mm hmm, because we, like I said, we have live shows,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: media fair, I'd say.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Who's somebody who wants to be the next Jabbari?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: Or what advice would you give to yourself, the younger
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: version of yourself, the one that was just started out
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: doing colors.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: You're just like he just got off that first bus
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: party in.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: DC, sweaty, everything is stinking in there, and you've teleported
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: it to him.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: What do you tell them?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: I would say to especially in a live space, right,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: I would say, to find something unique, that a unique
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: experience that you can provide to the marketplace that can
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: just garner the interest of maybe fifty people. You know,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: Like I think if you can get fifty people to
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: come somewhere and commit to you know, getting a babysitter
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: or getting a few friends, or like wearing a new
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: outfit and spending a few hours with you, I feel
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: like that's a good amount. And again I'm not talking
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: about asking for any money or selling any tickets. Just
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: just just figure out, yeah, you can get people, because
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: when people are coming to an event, they are there's
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: so many other things in their life that they're not doing,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: and they're so like I said, like people have to
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: get a new outfit, People have to get a babysitter.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: People have to figure out who they're going to said
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: event with. So there's a lot of commitment for getting
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: people to come somewhere in like the live space. And
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: I think that if you can get fifty people to
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: come anywhere, then you can get five million people to
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: come somewhere. It's just about like scaling that, right, and
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: if you can figure out something that you can do
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: semi consistently, and there's a world in which you can
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: extrapolate that from like city to city to city. Yeah,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: I think you just have to just figure out, just
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: start small. That's what I would say.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: We have fifty people at our first live show, so
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: by billion here we come.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: First of all, we appreciate you for coming through.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you all. It's been a good time. It
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: was a good time.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Make sure thank you to everybody that's listening, you know,
• 1:25:14
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• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: fly as hell? But where can they find you if
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: they've never heard of you?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: Just google R and B only. Another thing that I
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: would suggest is don't put any special characters in your
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: brand name. Uh so in mind there's an percent only,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: I mean it's you know, it is what it is.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: But uh yeah, it has become you know, a hindrance. Yeah,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: I mean not a hindrance because there's nothing that oftentimes
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: we just we can't use the the percent in like
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: a U R L or social media. So if you
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: want to find us on yeah, yeah we have. There's
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: like on all social media, it's our n B only
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: with the letter N. But in general, if you just
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: google R and B only you'll find everything. I'd really
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: like for people to subscribe to our YouTube channel because
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: we're growing a lot there. And yeah, but uh yeah,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: and if you want to find me, it's just Jabari
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: on everything all caps. But yeah, I own every single.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: I was just about to say I was able to
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: just get.
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah yeah yeah, yeah, shout.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Out to Parker, but you ain't getting it back, boy.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have like Jabari dot com, YouTube, dot com, slash, Instagram,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: Jabari most things I have and most things I have
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: because Twitter X just j if I if I if
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: I wasn't early enough to get it, then I had
• 1:27:01
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• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: toss toss a few dollars. Somebody bring a couple of caps. Yeah, uh,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: a few. I had to send a few green backs
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: to get the dot.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: And and the YouTube is colors right, YouTube.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: Is R and beyond arm ye R and beyond it. Yeah,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: just YouTube dot colors is also yours color. Well, we
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: have we do have a overall Colors worldwide our company.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: But colors, there's a there's a big brand called Color Studios,
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  Speaker 4: not to be confused with Okay, rather want the color
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: Color Studios. Big shout out to them. They do. They
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: do the performances for the artists with like a yeah
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: cool color in the back.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Because I was about to say, wait, you're doing that tuesday.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: I wanted to clear that up.
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  Speaker 4: Different company. Yeah, a big shout out to them. Love
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: what they do.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sing you close proxi the coco we can
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: find not having it's all right?
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe should come on singing in the shower and then yeah, yeah, maybe.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 6: You get her singing in the shower. Just make sure
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: I'm turning on the falcet.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: The foss will be on.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Huh the shower in our studio doesn't work?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, make sure you subscribe everywhere.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: Also, like you said, this will be.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: On it after the Okay, happen, take it.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: It's happening right now.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: Enjoy the tailgate. But yeah, we appreciate y'all. We'll see
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: y'all next week, same time, same place. Bye bye, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: yeah we we Hey.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: Since you're talking about R and B, we we've been
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: been spitballing this little fig hum that we go by
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: size and pots. None of us are seniors, though we
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: don't have to be.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: Oh Mike, okay, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I am. I was about to say, we're not
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: here to give out the vocals. We're out here just
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: to make good news.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: Some background.
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  Speaker 6: Mellody and is looking for it's enough computers where I
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: can sound like genuine tomorrow.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: We're not.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: We're just looking for your automatic unwaivered commitment.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: To the thigh Surprise music to just access to your database.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'll say this, so thank you.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: All right, appreciate all that's out the mud, got your
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: boy
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: Send me a record, Send me a record when it's ready, alright, alright, bad,
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