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  Speaker 2: This is the best of the Ben Maler Show on
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  Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to talk to Lebron.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe should I have like a Lebron warning tonight, Coop,
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  Speaker 4: Like we have a little alarm that we play where
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  Speaker 4: people are like, Okay, listen, I'm gonna go to the
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  Speaker 4: conspiracy theory talk if you talk Lebron, because I think
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  Speaker 4: there is a faction that is over.
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  Speaker 3: Like, for instance, I do I do a local show.
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  Speaker 4: I in fact, I am broadcasting live from the kr
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  Speaker 4: EF Studios, the home of Sooner Fans, which is a
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  Speaker 4: proud affiliate of Fox Sports Radio, and we're not local.
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  Speaker 4: And if I were to bring up Lebron on my
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  Speaker 4: show locally, I would be tard and feathered.
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  Speaker 3: I would be boom, what are you doing? Bro?
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  Speaker 4: We've got spring football that just wrapped up. You got
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  Speaker 4: sooner softball, we've got the thunder.
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  Speaker 3: What are you doing? But it is.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's one of the biggest stories in sports
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  Speaker 4: right now. So we'll we'll get into it. Lorena work
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  Speaker 4: on the Lebron warning siren that we can have and
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  Speaker 4: take people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: If I don't know what, maybe it's someone crying, maybe
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  Speaker 4: it's someone yelling at the officials, maybe it's someone flopping.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Just just find it it, find it,
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  Speaker 3: make it work. It's wild.
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  Speaker 4: The NBA playoffs are always one of the most anticipated
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  Speaker 4: times I think of the year, and this comes from
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  Speaker 4: someone who has loved the NBA since birth. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like every single time you explain your passion for a
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  Speaker 4: sport or the why behind it, you give kind of
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  Speaker 4: your fan or resume right, So let me give you
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  Speaker 4: my fan or resume here real quick. I grew up
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  Speaker 4: loving the Lakers. My dad grew up loving the Celtics.
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  Speaker 4: Gen Xer's child of the eighties. You guys know what
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  Speaker 4: that was all about. And it's just that we didn't
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  Speaker 4: get a lot of NBA. I lived in Sane. I
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  Speaker 4: grew up just outside of Saint Louis and Saint Louis
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  Speaker 4: wasn't really an NBA mecca, right, I know.
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  Speaker 3: We It's like Jason Tatus from Saint Louis, what are
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  Speaker 3: you talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Ain't a soul from Saint Louis who cared about the
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  Speaker 4: NBA for the longest time, Okay, And it just.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't a big deal.
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  Speaker 4: We had the Cardinals, we had the Blues, we even
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  Speaker 4: had the big rad we had the old Saint Louis
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  Speaker 4: Cardinals back in the day. And it's just it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: big in the market that I grew up in. But
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  Speaker 4: I loved it. I moved to Oklahoma. I was here
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  Speaker 4: for the start of my career. I did sports talk
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  Speaker 4: radio back in the nineteen hundreds whenever I got started,
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  Speaker 4: And if you talked about the NBA during that span
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  Speaker 4: here again, you would not have been very popular. But
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  Speaker 4: to thunder get the Oklahoma City gets a team, it's
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  Speaker 4: wildly successful.
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  Speaker 3: It goes to the tank.
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  Speaker 4: Now that everyone's trying to emulate, the Clippers are dumb
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  Speaker 4: enough to give them Shay Gilgess Alexander as part of
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  Speaker 4: a deal for Paul George, and I guess you could
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  Speaker 4: say the rest is history. They're going to be a
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  Speaker 4: two time, back to backworld champion, and all that being said,
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  Speaker 4: I live in a market I now, as a fan
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  Speaker 4: of the sport, am in a city that is crazy
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  Speaker 4: for the NBA, crazy for the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: I just moved.
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  Speaker 4: The house down the street from me has an inflatable
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  Speaker 4: Bison that's got a thunder jersey on, because that's kind
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  Speaker 4: of our Maskut you know, it's just that, that's what
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  Speaker 4: it is. And I say all that, I give you
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  Speaker 4: all that background to basically let you know that I
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  Speaker 4: am not an anti NBA person. I am not somebody
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  Speaker 4: that comes to this network, to this show tonight as
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  Speaker 4: a person that looks at the NBA as shut up
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  Speaker 4: and dribbled too, political, player, run league, all that, all
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  Speaker 4: those different I guess you could say, attributes that are
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  Speaker 4: associated with the league that some try to paint as
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  Speaker 4: declining and popularity.
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  Speaker 3: I am not that guy. I love the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: I have found that the games not involving my team
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  Speaker 4: have become incredibly unwatchable. And I don't know and now listen,
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  Speaker 4: it's the job boohoo buckeroo. Right, just ran into a
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  Speaker 4: guy stopped at seven eleven. Because I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: you all are familiar with what my my key to
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  Speaker 4: success is here with the BN Mallard Show is I
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  Speaker 4: have Let's see, I have two celsiuses and I have
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  Speaker 4: two bush lights. And depending on how things go in
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  Speaker 4: the first hour, we're either going Celsius an hour or
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  Speaker 4: we're going a couple of but bush lights just to
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  Speaker 4: get through the thing. Okay, it's one or the other.
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  Speaker 4: But like I was, I was. I was stopping at
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  Speaker 4: a seven to eleven and I was talking to the
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  Speaker 4: dude and he was, man, I have been here since
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  Speaker 4: two o'clock. Can't wait till five am when I'm off.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm thinking myself, dang, that's that's a long shift.
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  Speaker 4: Could you imagine though, if he had a sprinkle in
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  Speaker 4: watching these NBA playoffs to be even worse, he has
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  Speaker 4: another pain that we're having a feel right now having
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  Speaker 4: to sit through that damn Cleveland Cavaliers Detroit Pistons game.
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  Speaker 4: Does he know the horror of having to watch the
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  Speaker 4: second half of Games one through three of the thunder
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  Speaker 4: Lakers series? Was he paying attention? Even though in fairness,
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  Speaker 4: the Tea Wolves Spur series has been incredibly fascinating right
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  Speaker 4: just at least with the elbow storyline, and kind of
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  Speaker 4: how the game is played out. But I I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this is this has just not been a banner playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: I think for the NBA you had the upset where
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  Speaker 4: the Celtics blewed and the Sixers moved on, and then
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  Speaker 4: suddenly the Knicks have found like another level of shooting,
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  Speaker 4: another level of ball. I'm not you know, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know the how or the why behind it, but it
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  Speaker 4: is what it is. So all that all that background,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a fan. I love it. I'm in a market
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  Speaker 4: that's sick for it. It's just I don't think it's
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  Speaker 4: been incredibly entertaining.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: And I've got a checklist of things here that throughout
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  Speaker 4: the night we can go through. I would love to
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  Speaker 4: hear from dissenting voices at eight seven seven ninety nine
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  Speaker 4: on Fox Tonight, we still take calls.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Loraina Coop, we still take.
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  Speaker 4: I like to hear that eight seven seven ninety nine
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  Speaker 4: on Fox eight seven seven nine ninety six six three
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  Speaker 4: sixty nine.
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  Speaker 3: I've got just a few.
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  Speaker 4: Things throughout the night that I I'd love to sprinkle
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  Speaker 4: in and get your takes. Just one that's pretty obvious,
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  Speaker 4: and this is I could go to I think for
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  Speaker 4: every host. Not every play is a foul, not every
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  Speaker 4: play is a foul. And we are in an era,
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  Speaker 4: a time, a spot in sport where nobody thinks that
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  Speaker 4: they ever had a play that they made where they
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  Speaker 4: weren't fouled. And it's not just oh God, I was
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  Speaker 4: fouled and then run back on defense. You know it was,
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  Speaker 4: oh it's fouled. It's like y'all went to drama class
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  Speaker 4: or something. And I again, I'm reaching that age, reaching
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  Speaker 4: that age. I'm at that age now where I'm kind
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  Speaker 4: of like old man yelling at clouds.
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  Speaker 3: I am. My wife calls me the grumpy old man. Now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why. I just hate everything.
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  Speaker 4: And it's the NBA, this sport that I love, this
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  Speaker 4: league that I grew up on, this association that in
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  Speaker 4: my city where I live, is dominating. I can't watch
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  Speaker 4: it outside of my teams, and even when I do,
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  Speaker 4: it's not competitive. Maybe it's a situation, right, Maybe it's
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  Speaker 4: a situation where we're getting down to the teams that
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  Speaker 4: truly have it, and maybe those two teams or Spurs thunder,
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  Speaker 4: you know, twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, in college basketball,
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  Speaker 4: we knew who the two best teams in college basketball
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  Speaker 4: was it was Gonzagon Baylor, and the whole season was
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  Speaker 4: waiting to see Gonzagon Baylor play in the National Championship game.
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  Speaker 4: And guess what they did, and it was. It was
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  Speaker 4: not a great game, but it was a highly anticipated game.
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  Speaker 4: And there were you know, there were good games throughout
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  Speaker 4: the tournament, right, Yeah, the buzzer beater are there. That
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  Speaker 4: was great, but everyone kind of knew what was inevitable.
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  Speaker 4: And I wonder if that's where we are with these
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  Speaker 4: NBA playoffs. Maybe all my my handwringing, all my frustration,
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  Speaker 4: all my disappointment, all my disdain is going to be
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  Speaker 4: fixed when you have OKC and San Antonio go at it.
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  Speaker 3: The one team right now that you kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of feel like has a shot to derail the Thunder.
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  Speaker 4: Pardon my improper English. And I don't think I'll be
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  Speaker 4: judged here this evening, ain't no no, But he got
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  Speaker 4: anything for the Thunder in the East. Are you watching
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  Speaker 4: those games? Okase, He's doing this without one of their
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  Speaker 4: best players, Okay. And I'm not trying to come at
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  Speaker 4: this as an arrogant Thunder fan, all right, I'm just
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  Speaker 4: observing what I.
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  Speaker 3: See day in and day out. It's the reality of
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  Speaker 3: the league right.
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  Speaker 4: Now, and maybe maybe getting Okac in San Antonio in
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  Speaker 4: the NBA's Western Conference Finals might be a good precursor
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  Speaker 4: to really getting these playoffs back on track, making them
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  Speaker 4: more entertaining. Now, there might be a faction of you,
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  Speaker 4: they just love the game. I did a lot of
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  Speaker 4: work with a guy named Rick Camler. Rick's a great
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  Speaker 4: NBA mind, and anytime I would complain about the association
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  Speaker 4: to him, his reaction would be, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 4: You know the NBA. They had me at the logo.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe there's a faction that's feeling that tonight.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: But the bottom line, more than anything else, is I
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  Speaker 4: look at a league that needs its players to stop
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  Speaker 4: being babies. Here's the second thing, and this might be
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Coop and Lorena may laugh hysterically back in
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  Speaker 4: the studio. I find it incredibly hard to find the games.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, as goofy as that sounds.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's these things that local newspapers do now
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  Speaker 4: on Twitter on X and I think we've all seen
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  Speaker 4: them and it'll be how.
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  Speaker 3: To watch the game.
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  Speaker 4: And I would always push back on those and say,
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  Speaker 4: you turn on your TV. It's not real freaking hard.
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  Speaker 4: But with the NBA, all of a sudden, I'm kind
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  Speaker 4: of like, wait, am I on Prime tonight? Do I
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  Speaker 4: need to have my ESPN app? Are we still doing TNT?
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  Speaker 4: Is this thing on NBC? It's like I have found
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  Speaker 4: that it's incredibly hard to find the games. So with
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  Speaker 4: that in mind, I've got a laundry list of I'm
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  Speaker 4: not here to fix things tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I'm usually a guy that whenever I have a problem,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to present a way to fix it. I
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  Speaker 4: don't have a way to fix this tonight except maybe patients.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think too many teams tanking has anything to
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  Speaker 4: do with it. I don't think the amount of talent
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  Speaker 4: in the league is down. In fact, we might have
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  Speaker 4: more talented players than we've ever had. Now, we might
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  Speaker 4: not have better basketball players, but we definitely have more
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  Speaker 4: talented and more athletic dudes than we've ever seen before.
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  Speaker 3: But it's just been a hard watch.
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  Speaker 4: Man been a hard watch, And maybe it's just a
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  Speaker 4: precursor towards that thunder Spur series, which seems inevitable.
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  Speaker 3: If san Antonio can take care of Minnesota tonight.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I've kind of buried the lead now.
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  Speaker 4: The schedule leaks we talked about and we're going to
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  Speaker 4: get the full schedule tomorrow night or later tonight, depending
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  Speaker 4: on where you're listening. I don't know how or why
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  Speaker 4: all these are either allowed to leak or that they
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  Speaker 4: get out, but one of the most I guess you
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  Speaker 4: could say, hotly debated slash curious questions is who will
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  Speaker 4: the defending World champions play in the season opener raw
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  Speaker 4: you always kind of look at it, and when it
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  Speaker 4: was the Chiefs, I remember we've been debating its like, gosh,
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  Speaker 4: there's like five teams, maybe it could be the Texans
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  Speaker 4: with the Texas out of Shaan Wattson ended up being
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  Speaker 4: that And it's a good game, but the Seahawks had
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  Speaker 4: a lot of options. You want the defending champs open
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  Speaker 4: at home. It's usually a Thursday night game. This year
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  Speaker 4: it's a Wednesday night game, and they raised the banner.
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  Speaker 4: It's quite the scene this year. According to Ari Mirev,
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  Speaker 4: the twenty twenty six NFL season will begin with a
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl rematch. Now, I want to make sure I
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  Speaker 4: give proper credit here because Jordan Schultz is a great
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  Speaker 4: contributor here on Fox Sports Radio. You hear Joran a
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  Speaker 4: lot on the Herd with Colin Coward, and Jordan was
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  Speaker 4: actually first on this, So again, good work to him
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  Speaker 4: digging it up, finding it out. But it's not like
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  Speaker 4: that was a great game. It's not like the Super
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  Speaker 4: Bowl was one of these games that we look back
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  Speaker 4: are like, man, give me that again. And I mean,
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  Speaker 4: first of all, you have the wildest story in the
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  Speaker 4: NFL in years in the offseason.
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  Speaker 3: With the Mike Rabel stuff.
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  Speaker 4: In years you we've had a rest, we've had guys
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  Speaker 4: get in trouble, we've had big trades. But I don't
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that we've had anything quite like this.
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  Speaker 4: And you're gonna put that on the on the national
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  Speaker 4: stage right out of the gate. There's a part of
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  Speaker 4: me that kind of respects it. Guys, there's a part
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  Speaker 4: of me that respects it because I don't think that
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  Speaker 4: you can go to anyone and say, hey, don't talk
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  Speaker 4: about this, right because they're gonna talk about it. Coop,
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  Speaker 4: let me ask you. Let me ask you this. Lareena,
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  Speaker 4: I want your take on this too. Before we get
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  Speaker 4: to holler and James, if you're who is an NBC
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  Speaker 4: that has the opener?
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  Speaker 3: I believe it's NBC that has the opener.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you're having like the soft light background sit
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  Speaker 4: down with Mike Vrabel, right, I mean you can't you
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  Speaker 4: can't ignore this. They've I mean there's a party that
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  Speaker 4: kind of respects the NFL says, Oh yeah, you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: face this. We're gonna get this out of the open,
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  Speaker 4: and we're gonna try to watch this as quickly as
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  Speaker 4: we can, right Coop. What do you make of the
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  Speaker 4: Patriots of the Seahawks being the season opener.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I'm intrigued, but i'd be you know, I
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  Speaker 6: love the NFL, so i'd be intrigued, you know, with whomever.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 6: Uh Am I going to tune in for a dim
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  Speaker 6: Lynz sit down?
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  Speaker 3: Probably not.
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  Speaker 6: I'd watch clips online, you know, because you know, I
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  Speaker 6: imagine if anything interesting was said that, oh it'll be viral.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, I'm not going to tune in early
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  Speaker 6: to watch that.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, you're not going to tune in early for
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  Speaker 4: who's going to be the concert?
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  Speaker 3: Is it gonna be?
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  Speaker 4: I don't fallout boy? Is it going to be a
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  Speaker 4: reunion of Blink one eighty two? I mean we're in Seattle.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, come on, uh Lorena should should they do
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  Speaker 4: the All Out Bear his Soul sit down interview with
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  Speaker 4: Mike ra Able to start the whole broadcast?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, if that's where they want their focus.
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  Speaker 4: To be, because once it's out, it's out.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah exactly, but you know kind of that mentality, nip
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  Speaker 7: it in the butt before you get the season started,
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  Speaker 7: so the p we'll stop talking about it. So I
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  Speaker 7: think it is a good idea. Do I think I
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  Speaker 7: would tune into it? No, But like Coop said, I'm
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  Speaker 7: sure there will be highlights online and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I think this story has kind of lost a
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  Speaker 3: little steam too.
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  Speaker 7: Not and again, well, if they have anything more that's
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  Speaker 7: good on it, they should have let it out already, right,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, what's supposed to happen now? Though
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  Speaker 7: Diana's already out, Yeah, she's out. Rable hasn't lost his
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  Speaker 7: job yet, Like, I feel like it's too far along now,
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  Speaker 7: he's not going.
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  Speaker 4: To And I mean, who knows the way that Stu
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  Speaker 4: Gotts talks. I mean, Diana Rasini might be our coworker
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  Speaker 4: by the end of the week, who knows. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, man, I just it seems kind of ballsy
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  Speaker 4: that that would be your first game of the season.
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  Speaker 3: With the narrative that's been going on all off season.
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  Speaker 3: It's just hilarious to me.
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  Speaker 4: According to the different reports that are out there, this
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  Speaker 4: is the first time that the NFL has opened the
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  Speaker 4: season with a Super Bowl rematch since twenty sixteen when
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  Speaker 4: the Broncos and the Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's cool, math, right, makes it easy?
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  Speaker 6: All right?
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• 17:11
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• 17:13
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• 17:17
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• 17:19
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• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Checked in by the way, on the X he said,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: I don't quite understand the Thanksgiving Eve games in terms
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: of how it's gonna work. Are they gonna give both
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: these teams the week off before? Is one of them
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: gonna play on Thursday and the other half of the
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: week off. I get the NFL as king and we're
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: gonna watch. But when did it get too much? Or
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: when does it get too much? People are complaining about
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: the Thursday night game quality being down, and a lot
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: of players think they don't get enough rest because of
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: the short week. Well, they've they've got it figured out,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: you know. I feel like they've got it figured out
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: as far as the timing is concerned. But you're right,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: it's once we see it and I'm still it's like
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: a twelve year old. I'm like, wait a minute, they're
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: playing on Thursday, then they're gonna play again that next Monday,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: or you know, it's it's ridiculous, but whenever you are
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: committed to playing, now a game on Christmas and you've
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: added Thanksgiving Eve and your Wednesday games are becoming a
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: thing now in the NFL. I mean, that opener that
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: I talked about is on a Wednesday night this year
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: for some reason. So schedule release. Man, it always gets
• 18:32
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• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I've been working to get to this all night long.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: And it's Lane Kiffin.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I'm sure Brian talked about this Monday night and Tuesday Night.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: It's one of the biggest stories in sports. But Lane
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Kiffin has decided, I think, to be the ultimate heel
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: in sports. I don't think he can be happy unless
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: people are mad at him. Do you guys, Cooper, you
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: a wrestling guy. Do you ever watch WWE or WCW
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: or anything.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: It was my religion from like five years old until
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: like thirteenth.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Oh perfect, that's probably because that was probably during Wait,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: you're fairly young.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Was that during the attitude era? Yes? Oh yeah, w Lorena.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you probably couldn't care less about wrestling talk.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: But in wrestling there's heels, all right, and a heel
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: is a bad guy, and there are people that make
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: a living off being the bad guy, right you.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I'll do my best bad guy impersonation.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Let's say we are live from Austin, Texas, and I
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: walk down to the ring in Austin, Texas and I
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: get in the ring, and the first thing I would
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: do is this town stinks, you know, right Austin.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: The only thing worse than.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Being here is being in back dad boah. You know
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: something like that, right everyo. And it's like I hear
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: you guys like I don't know, you eat pizza with
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: a fork, you know, just all these things that you
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: would say, and you'd be the bad.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Guy, right.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: The Rock did that before he made his big you know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: baby Face turned the Rock.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: With the Nation.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and the Nation we're bad guys, but we
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: had some angles back in that day that are very questioned.
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: The nation of domination, We are the nation of the domination,
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: Dlo Brown, the Rock Ron Simmons, Fruk was his name.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: It was awesome. I mean bad guy. Every good guy
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: needs a bad guy. Now this is really old school,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: but the von Erics probably would have been as great
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: as von Erics were if it wasn't for the fabulous
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Free Birds. You need a bad guy. The Rock, right,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: he was the good guy. He needed a bad guy.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: The nWo were the bad guys.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: They w C.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: W Rick Flair was the bad guy. You need a
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: bad guy. There has to be someone. The great Jim
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Ross used to say that wears the black hat. Oh
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: my gosh. I love talking wrestling, but it fits with
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: what Lane Kiffin appears to be doing now. Vanity Fair
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: is a magazine that I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I didn't know still existed, and to be honest with you,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: I don't care. I'm not a big magazine reader. I'm
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: not somebody that is going to get too caught up in.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: First of all, I have everything on my phone. But
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Lane Kiffen made a comment about the concerns over racism
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: and the I guess you could say demographic of Oxford,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Mississippi versus Baton Rouge Louisiana, and the basic point was
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: he never has to sell anyone on Baton Rouge versus Ole,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: miss Baton Rouge versus Oxford, Mississippi, based on the history,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: based on the racial tone of said city. Now, everybody
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: in my world of college sports has an opinion on this,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna share a couple of them here real quick,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: if you guys don't mind me playing a little audio,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: because you can't really say the things that lane Kiffin
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: said and people don't have an opinion on it. You
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: can't come out and basically call an entire city that
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: i mean houses every major college sport you could possibly have.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: You can't question their racial makeup, the diversity of the
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: city and not have some sort of backlash. Now again,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: let's back up. Even a little bit more would have
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm being a little bit overly dramatic here,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: but they would have died for lane Kiffin. I mean,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: that's that was their guy, because he he took Ole
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: mist to another level.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: And to his credit, man, he does it with the
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: bad guy swagger. Right.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: He doesn't care who you are and what you think.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: He's gonna sit up there, He's gonna look at the mic.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: He's gonna smile and he's gonna say something that absolutely
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: demeans the other team.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I saw it. I had to live it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: They beat Oklahoma. And what did he do after they
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: beat Oklahoma? He let us know about it. Why because
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: that's Lane Kiffin. That's Lane Kiffin. And I mean to
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: give you the quote he told Vanity Fair that top
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: recruits would say, hey, coach, we really like you, but
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: my grandparents aren't letting me move to Oxford, Mississippi. That
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: doesn't come up when you say baton rouge. Louisiana. Parents
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: were sitting here this week and saying the campus diversity
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: feels so great. It feels like there is no oh segregation,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: and we want that for our kid because that's the.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Real world now.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: He later He later said in that same magazine article quote,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I just hope my comments come across as respectful to
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Ole Miss. There are some things that I'm saying that
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: are factual. They're not shots, all right, And now listen,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I'm making sure I give all the proper context here,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: or at least trying my damness to do so. Ole
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Miss is not necessarily known for being I mean, they
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: had to basically beg them to stop using the Confederate
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Confederate flag. I mean they literally had to stop begged
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: them to stop using Colonel reb before they became the Sharks.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: So there is some history there, but that's you know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: that's not something that Lane Kiffin ever brought up whenever.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: He was coaching at ole Miss. Right and the dude
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: had success.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Like I said, Ole Miss fans would have gone to
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: the Mattresses for man.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: They went thirty two.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: And six in his final three seasons Old Miss, and
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: they made the playoffs this past year. Now he left
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: them to go coach ole Miss. All right, go coach LSU.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: But he made the playoffs. So there's I think that
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: gives all.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: The context you need.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin makes the comments, talks about the lack of
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: diversity at Ole Miss, talks about basically how that's not
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: the case at LSU, and has always kind of been
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: the guy that can't help but be the bad guy.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, and I also.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I also think there's certain people in life that can't
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: really stop when they're happy. They always think there's another
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: level of happiness or eliteness or greatness or whatever term
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: you want to use. Lane Kiffin has been given more
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: opportunities than just about any coach that's been fired, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: it's happened a couple of times. I mean, the dude,
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: the dude was fired from the Raiders. Now, in fairness,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: he was given that job too early. Al Davis really
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: wanted Steve Sarkejian and Sark didn't leave lsu us he
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: excuse me, and Sart actually suggested Lane Kiffin to al Davis.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: He hired al Davis right, He hired Lane Kiffin and
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: it was a disaster. He got fired with an overhead
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: projector we all know the story. But he he resurfaced
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: at Tennessee and he was damn good at Tennessee.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Man. He won aed Tennessee. And he didn't just win.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: He he got fans excited about Tennessee football again by
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: going seven and six. All right, now we're going back
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: to two thousand and nine, but seven and six, I mean,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: think about that today. Tennessee fans were out of their
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: mind fired up at seven and six. Why because they
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: had gone five and seven the year before and they
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: were like, we suck, We're never gonna get to that
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: era that we need to be. And lane Kiffin won.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: But what did he do. He couldn't accept that success.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: He couldn't the accolades, He had a lead for his
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: dream job USC.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: What happened at USC?
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: The man got fired left on the tarmac, right, isn't
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: that the great stories? After four rather underwhelming seasons that
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: had one win of ten or more, goes to the
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: coaching rehab clinic of Nick Saban, resurrects his career, goes
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: to Florida Atlantic, Boom earns the Ole Miss job.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: The rest is history, but he can't stay happy.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Six years at Old Miss, three straight ten or more
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: wins seasons.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: A trip to the playoffs. But what does he do?
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Booms gotta go to LSU and on his way out
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: the door lights a Molotov cocktail and takes it to
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: everything Ole Miss. Here's some of the reactions. I'm a
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: big fan of Mike Griffith. Mike covers the Georgia Bulldogs.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: This about a minute long kind of laying into lanekiffing about, Hey,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: what exactly is the goal here?
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Whenever you're trying to lay out that there is a
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: racial divide at the school, you just allowed I.
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: Thought it was reckless and I thought it was irresponsible
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: think that if there's any sort of reprimand you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: I would think it in line to come with within
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: Laane Kiffen's a free agent, he's a hired gun. He's
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: a narcissist. In my opinion. I don't think that he
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: necessarily thinks about the consequences before he speaks. There's an
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: entertainment value to that, there's an excitement to that. You
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: never know what Lane's going to say. We're all going
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: to show up for his press conference, and at some point,
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: if he is held accountable, maybe he'll change his ways.
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: But the man's fifty years old and it seems to
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: be working out pretty well for him, you know, making
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: fourteen million dollars a year and now in command at
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: one of the highest funded programs in the nation. You know,
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: Lane can have it his way. Lane can do it
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: his way, and until there's real consequences, he doesn't have
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: any motivation to change. This is what works for him.
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: And again, I'm not giving him a pass. I'm not
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: saying it's right. I'm just saying that's how it is.
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: How many other coaches have had as many chances as
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: Lane Kiffen, and yet you know the opportunities keep coming.
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: All I got to say is he had better win LSU,
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: he had better win, and he had better win fast.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Now again, I don't know.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know if there needs to be consequences for
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: this outside of people with LSU using it as a
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: thing if he doesn't win. Right, if you win, I
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: don't know if you guys have noticed this or not.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: If you win, you can say or do whatever you want.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: If Mike Rabel hadn't gone to the super Bowl last year,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: if bo Nicks hadn't got hurt, Coop and Mike Rabel
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: didn't go to the super Bowl and they lost in
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: the AFC Championship game, or let's let's make it even
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: more dramatic, if the Patriots would have gone four and thirteen,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: then this would have been a lot more damning this
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: offseason for New England and Patriot fans.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: You know it, you know it.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick is kind of a laughing stock in some
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: people's eyes because he's got a girlfriend that's, you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: less more than what is it, more than half his age?
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: And if he had won at.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: North Carolina or gone to the playoffs, ain't no one
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: saying a thing why? Because you can get away with
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: a hell of a lot more.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: When you win. When you lose and you.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Talk your trash and you say things like Lane Kiffin did,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: that's whenever everyone starts having a problem with it, the
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: place you are. Pete Golding, to his credit, is the
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: new head coach at ole Miss. We've had a bevy
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: of press conferences over the last few days in college football.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Here's what Pete Golding had to say about Lane's comments.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: And I think more than anything else, when you're Pete Golding,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: you look at it and you say, oh, okay, it's
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: it's Lane. I know what to expect from him. I
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: know what I'm gonna get me so I can get
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: this to work. Here's what Golding said yesterday or is
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: it not gonna work? Oh, it's not gonna.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Work for me.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Basically, he's like, hey, listen, he loves attention. Look at
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: his Twitter analytics. Put them in ball terms. Ole Miss
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: would have had the Natty buy now. And I think
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: that's true if you look at it from the perspective of, hey,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I'm not going I'm not going to take this, I'm
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: not going to deal with this. I'm not going to
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: get caught up in it. Let's not let's not really
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: get into the fight when it comes to Lane Tiffin.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: One more here that I wanted to get to. This
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: is from Cole KUBLEI H. Cole is a visited hold
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: on Cole. Cole is a well known college football guru
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: sideline guy for ESPN.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Here's what he.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Had to say about the overall need for Lane Kiffin
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: to stir the POD.
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: I do think some of the things that were brought
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: up by Lane maybe a little bit unnecessary, not something
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: that even if you thought it at the time, really.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Needs to be revisited publicly.
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: We know the past in Oxford, Mississippi, we know the
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: past with the state of Mississippi, and I feel like
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: some of the things that were brought up woul come
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: a long way since then. It's not something that really
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: seems to continue to still be an issue. But Lane
• 31:58
  Speaker 10: felt like he needed to bring it up and he
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: needs to discuss it, and one's going to get people
• 32:03
  Speaker 10: talking about him too. Maybe it feels it's going to
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: give him advantages. It's recruiting based on where he is
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: now at LSU. Would you imagine that that was any
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: part of why he would want to do this, that
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: he's trying to maybe up the advantages for himself with
• 32:17
  Speaker 10: where he currently is.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably it's possible. I mean, I wouldn't put it
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: past anybody.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: These guys think about everything when it comes to how
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: their program is perceived and how their program stacks up.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I think I'm honestly all right, I'm not here to
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: defend Lane Kiffin on this. I don't think it was
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: as calculated as people have brought up. I actually am
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: getting to the whole point of this conversation tonight. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: actually think that when it comes down to it, lane
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Kiffin's apology, I take it as pretty genuine. I don't
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: think that he was trying to find any way to
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: undermine Ole Miss. I think he was in the midst
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: of a long conversation. You get comfortable around someone and
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: you say things that maybe you forget.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: You're on the record. I Baker Mayfield.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield, about five or six years ago, there was
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: a conversation where he was sitting with a Sports Illustrated
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: article that was a writer that was doing a big
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: piece and Daniel Jones got drafted and he made a
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: comment about it, and the guy wrote about it. Well,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, Baker was just speaking as any fan would,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: but whenever it comes out of your mouth and it's
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: attributed to you, it's a completely different world. And I
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: kind of feel like that Lane maybe got a little
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: too comfortable.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Here was his apology.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I really apologize if anyone at Ole Miss or in
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Mississippi was offended by that. In a four hour interview,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I was asked a lot of questions on a lot
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: of things, and Ole miss has been wonderful to.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Me and my family.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I was asked questions about the difference in recruiting, and
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: I said a narrative that we battled there from some
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: out of state black parents and grandparents not wanting their
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: kids to move to Mississippi. That's a narrative that coaches
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: have been fighting forever. It wasn't calculated by bringing it up.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: I think I buy it. I think I buy it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: But it all goes full circle to one thing, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: one thing only. You always need a bad guy. Someone
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: always has to be the bad guy.