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#367 - For Azeroth!: “Serenity Now” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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And I mean, Miss Sugar I think is not not stranger to these
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things happening where things start off really bad.
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Victory for the Forsaken for Lauderon, for the Kieran Tour,
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for Pandaria for Calendar to the Burning Region for Gilneus or
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Has not Died for the Lynch King for the.
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Sindori for the Alliance for the.
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Horn for Azeroth. Hello and welcome to another
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episode of For Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, Benny,
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and I am joined by a very special guest, the Master of the
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Mist, the Weaver of all things healing.
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We have Swirl, Swirl. How are you?
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Hello, I'm doing well. How are you?
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I'm doing OK. I'm doing OK.
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For those of us that may not be familiar with your gifts, can
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you tell us a little bit about yourself?
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Yeah, sure. I am a Miss Weaver.
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I'm a healer through and through.
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I've been playing this game for so much of my life.
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I started when I was a little kid just playing around with
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Cataclysm. I was a tank at first really
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funnily enough, but then picked up rest of Druid.
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Mop came around. Miss Uber was the most fun spec
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to play. So I started playing it back
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then and on and off throughout the years.
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You know as I got into college and had real life person person
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things to do. Had to do that but just came
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back to it kind of when had some more time and have been playing
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ever since. It's been been a really fun
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journey with the spec to say the least.
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Well, I'm glad that you have had a fun journey with the spec and
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the spec itself has had a bit of a journey.
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I've played it on well, I've had it as an alt on and off
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throughout its time. I jumped in in Mr. Pandaria when
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it was the new hotness. I don't want to say the new
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hotness because even in its debut there were some wrinkles
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and then Blizzard decided that they weren't going to do fist
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weaving. And now fist weaving is like the
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new hotness. So Miss Weaver itself is is had
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its own journey in terms of the war within.
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How has Miss Weaver fared fared with these new hero talents and
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throughout this expansion in the three tiers that we've had?
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Yeah, I think All in all, I think hero talents for mystery
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were pretty successful. I mean, I I don't know if this
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was Blizzard's way to do it, but mystery were definitely had a
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pretty clear split between its its hero talents, kind of one
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for raid, one for M plus. You know, we had condo the
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celestials for raid pretty much exclusively and then almost
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exclusively master of Harmony for M plus, just kind of due to
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the things that it did. Conduit of the celestials is
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super good and at being very scalable.
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I'll say, you know, we gained Cdr through heart of the jade
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serpent just while having all of that.
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And it works really well because renewing mist is something that
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we heal through in raid and we just kind of have it going at
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all times. So for us to be able to
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capitalize off of that has been really good.
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Doesn't work that great in M Plus just due to the way that
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Miss Fever had fared with HE lamps.
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If anybody's ever played Miss Fever, they know that he lamps
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are super duper relevant just across the entire spec, which is
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actually being removed in midnight that I'm very excited
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about. But those HE lamps worked really
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well for M Plus, which was kind of the basis of the tree of
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Master of Harmony. Allow us to do a boatload of
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damage and then also just supplement that with really,
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really strong healing and kind of play around with both damage
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and healing as a resource through this kind of pseudo
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resource called vitality that just builds and spends as we're
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playing the game essentially. So yeah, I mean, All in all, I
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think it was pretty good. It's definitely here to stay.
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I mean, our tier sets have been pretty good through this past
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season as well that they got implemented, implemented onto
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it. So yeah, I think pretty good for
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hero talents. I mean, you mentioned this last
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tier and the tier set, which seems to be such a hit, so much
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so that as far as I'm aware it got put into the hero talents
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for Midnight. Is that the case?
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Yeah, it got a little bit of a rework with the Heart of the
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Jade Serpent stuff with the Cdr that had additional benefits on
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it of Thunderfocus Tea procking it.
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So just something that we do like every 30 seconds.
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Anyways, that was changed away from, you know, one source where
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we would cast Shalin's Gift and it changes via the stack count
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that we have this spell away from, you know, that kind of
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buff tracking mentality that that midnight is trying to get
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away from just to get it to Thunder focus T we gain a bunch
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of haste with it. That's always like multiplied by
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our haste bonuses that we currently have.
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And yeah, I mean, those are really good for the master of
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harmony tier set. It is definitely in a lowered
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state than it was on live on live is it?
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It was a bit oppressive with the way that it worked, just the way
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that you gained so many stacks of this buff called harmonic
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surge and you really couldn't use them that much.
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It didn't do enough healing to cover a lot of damage events,
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but when you stacked every single multiplier that you had,
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it does just enough for you. And it worked really well.
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I mean for for people doing lower keys, it was just kind of
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a spam tiger palm situation, which isn't super fun.
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I I did not love that play style, but just in a reduced
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state kind of added to our our new tree.
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OK, well, I mean you've mentioned a number of things
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that I think have been the target for pruning in midnight.
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So let's talk about that that and the pruning that well, I say
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pruning. I just said in the pre show that
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I don't like that term and here I am using it.
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But the streamlining. So things like those, those
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healing ramps, things like the stacking of of buffs to get
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something effective. How has Miss Weaver interfered
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in terms of the reworks and the massive shifts that people will
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start to see this coming week? Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a
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lot. Masura has received quite a bit
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of changes going into midnight. There's there's a lot of really
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relevant ones. I mean, like I mentioned that HE
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lamps have been removed. We had, oh God, we had so many
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sources of HE lamps attached to it.
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We had enveloping mist, we had a 20% that could be buffed to 40%
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or sorry, 30 to 40%. We had Qi Harmony that was a 25
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that was nerfed down from 50%. Lotus and Fusion brought 12%.
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We had menning proliferation which just replicated your
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enveloping mist HE lamps. So that basically 40% on to
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anybody. The Master of Harmony tree had a
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20% heel amp attached to it. I'm probably missing a couple
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others, but I mean, there was a lot.
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Yeah, exactly. I'm like looking at my fingers
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trying to count them all. But yeah, I mean, all of those
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are kind of gone, which is a really good change.
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I mean, one thing that was a really major point of concern
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was, you know, trying to teach people the spec and telling
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them, you know, how the spec plays.
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And it's like, OK, I have to apply all these heal amps in
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order to do good healing. When do I have the time to do
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this? What does my ramp look like?
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And as a melee healer, those things are kind of difficult of
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this balance between casting and, and pressing melee
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abilities, which is a really common misconception that people
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have with Miss Weaver, that it's like 1 or the other.
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But it's not like we, we try and take fist weaving as a term away
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now because it's not that right. Super reductive of, of a play
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style that once was 10 years ago.
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And it's just not really what happens anymore.
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And it's just Miss Weaver, right?
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It's it's no longer one way or the other.
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But that like casting time, you know, it's, it's definitely a
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bit hard. And melee is seen as like this
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quick movement action. There's a bunch of things
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happening in melee that you can move around frontal swirlies
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like those things. And range doesn't really have
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those types of things going on back there where you have to
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move out constantly. So, you know, timing those
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spells is really important. And thankfully those things are
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kind of gone now, which I'm super excited about.
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I think that it's still gonna be relevant in like let's say the
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Super highest of keys because you really need that very strong
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output at some case. But a lot of it has been been
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super reduced. And I mean, just in terms of
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things that are going on, there's, there's so many
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multipliers, which is kind of a heel lamp in and of itself.
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That has also been reduced. We had one called Invoker's
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Delight that just gave us 20% haste whenever we called our or
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invoked our Celestial. So more so a raid thing because
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of the talents and kind of how we could have gotten talents
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that way, but that's being removed.
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Shaho's lessons, which I personally love, I wish was not
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being removed. But it's kind of like the
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cyclical buffing of just gaining a buff that does something for a
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certain amount of time. And it's really fun.
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I think it was really fun to play around choosing the right
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one. You know, you either got haste
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or crit or you doubled the amount of healing that you did
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to somebody at a lower HP percentage.
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But that kind of stacking of buffs is now gone.
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So the gameplay is definitely a bit more streamlined.
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I don't know if it was a good cost to it because our spells
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are not really doing what they need to be doing at the moment.
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A little worried for For Midnight, Miss Weaver, but yeah,
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All in all, I think the changes have been fairly good.
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Some better than others, but mostly pretty good.
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I mean, we, we got to go into that.
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So with the new reality of damage in midnight, we're
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dealing with like less burst damage.
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The damage of rot has been picked up, and so is that
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challenging for Miss Weaver? Is that more in the current or
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rather the upcoming midnight changes wheelhouse where you
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know you're going to get the renewing miss, you're going to
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be able to like keep people healthier through rot damage, or
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how bad is it that the healing's falling behind in your eyes?
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Yeah, I think, I mean, I'll be honest that like reduction of
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burst healing, I haven't really seen all too much like I'm I I
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haven't really done super many keys, but at the moment, but
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just the ones that I've played, I mean, there's still so much
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burst and dungeons that it does not feel great to heal at times
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without the tools available that give me that burst healing.
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I think that in raid also, like I, I have done the testing and
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I, I don't see a difference. Maybe it's just because I'm, you
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know, learning the encounter and I'm not really paying attention
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to the damage patterns there, but I don't really see a major
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difference in the way that healing is.
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You know, you press your cooldown, you heal during your
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cooldowns and things are normally fine.
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Maybe a little bit of that kind of ticking damage and rot
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damage. I I don't really foresee it
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being a super big issue for miss Weaver.
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I think we are definitely one of the better healers for rot, kind
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of maybe not as good as resto druid.
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They are like the king of rot healing, as you can see with
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like Mdis where, you know, we have this really big rot boss
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from, I forget her name, but from halls of infusion, that ice
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boss or candle king that we just recently had.
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I mean, Dark flame Cleft and I mean resto druid is insane at
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those. And mystery falls behind a
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little bit on it simply for the fact that we are melee.
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Sometimes, you know, we lose melee up time and we lose a lot
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of healing because of that. I don't really see that being
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too, too big of an issue, but we've gotten some supporting
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talents with renewing Myths, which is pretty cool.
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We got one recently, which is a bit silly of a talent, but it's
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a a the renewing Mist that's on your lowest health party member
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heals for an extra 500% on them. A bunch of talents that increase
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the healing of renewing mist. So hot wise, yeah, I definitely
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think that, you know, those things are pretty good with the
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enveloping mist nerf as well with the the the reduction of
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its heel amp. Now it's just a 20% amp that
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Hots healing has been increased by I think it was like 160% or
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something. So Hots are super duper relevant
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and I think that it'll be really no major struggle.
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OK, I, I mean, you're talking about the different talents.
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One one thing that is there is that you're able to, I believe,
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cast miss as you're moving, but you get slowed down.
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Now movement has been something I've seen a lot in the raids.
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How is Miss Weaver handling movement with like the new setup
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in midnight? Is it a is it a struggle or is
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it something that Miss Weaver can, you know, roll with the
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punches? Sorry about that joke.
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Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think it'll definitely help a lot
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because one of the major concerns was like that Miss
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Reaver. So, you know, as I said, like
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it's a melee spec, so trying to stay in melee while things are
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going on and trying to get those casts off are very hard.
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I I don't see it as like a major boon because, you know, maybe in
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raid where we're casting a lot of vivifies as our main cast,
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but NM plus there's a lot more than just kind of that vivify or
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I guess now being replaced by Shaylin's gift whenever we're
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talented into it. So just those two things are
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pretty good. But you know, that doesn't stop
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anything else. We have to get our like
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maintenance buffs out. You know, renewing mist breaks
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it. We have rising sun kick, which
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breaks it. Rushing wind kick, same thing
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breaks it pretty much anything else that we have to do outside
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of vivify. Enveloping Mist and a life
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cocoon, which for some reason is not on the tool tip anymore, but
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it is something that does not break the soothing mist channel.
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So allowing us to do that in raid is really good because
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that's our main ones and plus not so much.
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I don't really see it as a major benefit, but movement, I think
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in general Misreaver has been pretty good with in the first
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place. In Raid, you know, we have
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instant cast basically all the time as you're moving through
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things like you press rushing Wind Kick and then you have an
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instant Vivify. So you get a few of those lined
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up and prepared for that movement and it makes things
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fairly smooth. It's not like Spirit Walker's
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Grace or, you know, getting spatial from an Evoker that you
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can't really get anymore because they take Time Spiral and Raid,
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but still super possible. I don't.
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I don't really see a big, big bad thing for Miss Weaver there.
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OK, comparing Miss Weaver raid healing versus mythic plus, and
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I know you haven't had much mythic plus on on the dungeon,
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but just from like where the balance is right now are are
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Miss Weavers scaling well in five man content versus the ten
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20-30 people that you can have it in a raid?
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Yeah, I think that I mean, Miss Weaver does pretty good in five
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man content with the the talents that we have.
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There's a few outlying bugs that just make it not super great at
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the moment in both sets of like raid and M Plus, but like
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Ancient Teachings, for example, it heals a maximum of five
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players and then splits that healing up between those
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players, you know, whoever is actually injured.
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So if one person is not injured, then it splits into four and
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then it keeps going down. So it's really scalable that
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way. It helps a lot just getting that
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like maintenance healing out as opposed to casting on somebody
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at all times. Like, you know, some healers
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need to cast off, let's say, a regrowth on somebody that's
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taking damage when you could just press a Rising Sun kick and
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it will heal that one person for a fairly large amount.
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But I think they're fine. There's a lot of concerns about
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like Life Cocoon, for example. It's always been a major concern
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for Miss Weaver just with tanks in particular, damage reduction
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on a tank is just so invaluable and for us to have a really,
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really minor one at 6%, just a channel soothing mist on to them
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when again back to the everything breaks the soothing
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mist. Sometimes you can't even cast it
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on these like shout scenarios, you know, like when talking
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about Priory, for example, one of the Knights does their shout
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or scream and you have to stop your channel in order to to get
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it off. Otherwise you get silence for 10
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seconds. But you need this damage
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reduction on whoever it is. So it's kind of like that weird
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quirk of Miss Weaver that you have to do something extra that
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somebody else does for free. It's it's very odd.
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But I think All in all, I mean, I think it works pretty well.
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Just needs a bit of bit of tuning on the positive side.
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OK, further down that line, outside of the shame bubble is
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what we call it with Migrant. What are the external situations
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for Miss Weaver? Like what?
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What kind of effort can you give to that that tank before they
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take the big hit or the person who you know is going to stand
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in the goo? Yeah, I mean, it's, it's
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basically just like Cocoon, which is a really, really good
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external for ADPS, right? Because the, the lower amount of
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damage you take, the better an absorb is, right?
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So if somebody takes, you know, even their entire health bar,
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I'll go with, you know, like health that is in midnight,
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let's say 450K, right? Or 500K just to make it easy.
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If they take a 500K hit with an absorb on them, that is a 500K
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absorb. They take nothing, right?
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They take no damage at all, whereas with damage reduction,
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you have to go pretty high of damage reduced in order to not
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take any damage for that. But as you scale up in the
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amount of damage that you've taken, which a tank is a really
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good example, that they're constantly taking really, really
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big hits of damage. The absorb works well until a
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certain point, so you can save them off of a really big hit,
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but after that you don't really have very much.
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You can channel soothing mist into them, you can continuously
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cast a bunch of vivifies into them and try and keep them
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alive. But I mean, it's really no
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comparison to that damage reduction when, you know,
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they're taking a million hits from a bunch of little smallies
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and one of them breaks it after a second, which is not, you
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know, not fake. It's happened so many times.
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I'll put life cocoon on a tank and it will just die
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immediately. And then I just kind of have to
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hope and pray that I can keep them alive off of these crazy
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hits that they have no defensive for.
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I mean, we do have like our chi cocoons which happen whenever we
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invoke our Celestial. But again, another weird part of
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utility that other healers don't really have to deal with.
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Like I have to use my major cooldown in order to give my
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group some form of quote UN quote damage reduction with
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these absorbs. And then it does nothing for a
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tank, right? It's like 6% of your HP or
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something like that. It's nothing to to sit proudly
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about. Paint cooldowns seeming to have
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been a sore spot for a long time, but like being able to
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like quickly bounce a raid team back has always been something
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that when I've come across Miss Weavers and raids has been a
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shining point. What would you say the niche for
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Miss Weavers are right now? Or do you feel like Miss Weavers
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are being outshined in the niche that they should have?
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Where? What's the situation currently
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with midnight balancing? Yeah, you know, it's, it's
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funny, I, I talked to Megaset, who's a a really awesome content
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creator for Miss Weaver, does a lot of dungeon stuff, is our
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best content creator. She's great.
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We were just kind of talking very briefly and I was like,
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what do you think Monk is about now?
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Like looking at it from what we've lost, we've lost all of
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our he lamps, which makes us like not very different from
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anybody else anymore where we don't have this extra thing that
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we do. You know, Misweaver is known as
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a, a throughput healer in, in modern Wow, I guess, like
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there's a damage reduction healer, there's a single target
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healer, there's a healer that can, you know, top the raid
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every 30 seconds like Evoker does.
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And I, I, I don't think Misweaver has anything anymore,
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honestly. You know, first for a throughput
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healer that doesn't bring much to the raid, right?
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We don't have power infusion. We don't bring like this crazy
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raid buff. We just don't really do good
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healing as as a result, you know, we've seen in the war
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within Evoker has been insane at their healing and they're this
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throughput healer, but now they're also receiving like
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group wide damage reduction at like 16% group wide, you know,
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damage reduction at a maximum and then some spread across
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raid. I don't know the specifics so
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please don't bash me if I'm wrong on that, but something
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around there. It's fine.
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So kind of seeing that it's like, where is Mist Weaver?
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Where does it stand now? I, I really don't think it does.
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It just kind of exists there and is at the mercy of our
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throughput, right? We kind of have to go into this,
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is Brewmaster good? Is Wind Walker good?
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If neither of them are good, then Miss Weaver is the only
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choice that can happen. But Miss Weaver is not at the
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forefront of that decision almost ever unless our
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throughput is so insane like we saw in a mere Dracil, right?
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And a mere Dracil in Dragonflight.
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Miss Weaver is really, really good because of the healing that
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we did specifically. Like on the end boss for
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example, right? We had to single target heal a
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tree that had to be healed in like 10 seconds.
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And Mystery did really good. We had a lot of supporting
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talents there that increased our vivifies as we were single
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target healing this tree and only got better as we were
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healing more within like 1 channel of soothing mist.
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So it allowed us to have that really good niche of the single
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target healing, but it kind of fell off after that.
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And then afterwards, it was like we had a good bit of, you know,
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these really medium lows, I should say, right?
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You know, instead of all of our healing falling off, whenever
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we're kind of going through this, we just kind of stagnate,
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right? We have these renewing mist that
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are blanketed across our raid and then we can increase them at
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some points to like 200% of their original healing and then
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have these fairly big burst windows whenever we press our
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cooldown. And with all of these he lamps
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that are gone, with all those multipliers that are gone, our
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cooldown is just kind of there doesn't really do much, you
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know, the cooldown of itself, the, the absorbs do more than
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what the actual cooldown does, which is so bad.
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I mean, it's no interaction with what the gameplay is like.
23:45
So yeah, I, I don't know where our Nisha's at anymore.
23:49
It's just kind of healing if it's good, yeah.
23:54
OK, I mean, I would not want any spec to be reliant on the on
24:03
their other specs not having a place.
24:05
So you're just like, oh, where can I fit this rain buff?
24:07
I guess I take the the miss Weaver.
24:11
So what would you think should have What, what do you think
24:18
should happen in order to give a proper healing identity to Miss
24:24
Weaver? What the What's the shortest
24:26
route to a successful healing identity that you can see?
24:31
Yeah, I mean, shortest route, the easiest 1 is just to make us
24:35
what Preservation of Ochre was, right?
24:37
You had this really, really strong, very bursty healer that
24:41
was strong every like incredibly strong every minute and 30 right
24:46
that they just got to do these bombs of healing onto the raid.
24:50
It was super relevant in like nerbar palace and it's obviously
24:53
been nerfed and now removed because it was so oppressive.
24:57
So that would be like the quickest and easiest and
25:00
dirtiest way to do it in order for us to get kind of that niche
25:05
and identity back. I mean, I don't know, I feel
25:08
like all the bases are covered, right?
25:10
I'm we have disciplined priest that has kind of what that
25:15
preservation Evoker was like that they're a little bit at the
25:17
mercy of their cooldowns where, you know, every minute and 30
25:21
they just kind of do this really big amount of healing and then
25:24
they die down towards the end. You kind of have rested druid
25:27
that has really solid spread out healing, which now I think they
25:31
have a really major burst presence to their healing with
25:34
like regrowths that are just bursting the raid that they kind
25:37
of sort of stole from us with a regrowth affecting every single
25:41
rejuve across the raid, which is just invigorating mists.
25:44
It's vivify. It's basically the same thing.
25:47
You know, you have H Paladin that is pretty good at like
25:50
moderate healing across the raid that has been fairly well known
25:53
for its single target healing and this kind of like topping
25:57
somebody very quickly type healing.
26:01
So it's hard for me to choose a place where things can go for
26:05
Miss Weaver because it's always been that, like lone child out
26:09
pretty much since its introduction.
26:15
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not sure.
26:17
OK, all right. Swapping it up a little bit, we
26:24
have seen the Miss Weaver buff get buffed itself and then
26:32
reverted back. Do you feel that Misweavers,
26:37
like we already talked about, of course, Externals.
26:41
Do you feel like the Mystic Touch buff is doing enough in
26:45
its current form? Do you feel that that should be
26:49
something that gets addressed so that it doesn't feel left off?
26:53
I know anybody who is playing playing the last spec without a
26:58
proper raid buff or DK sport one out for them is yelling at me
27:03
because it's they don't have one but miss Weaver.
27:06
Do you think that buff needs to needs to be improved?
27:10
Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, I will swap with DK.
27:14
If I was given the choice right now, I would gladly take a grip
27:18
over what Mystic Touches. I mean, and a few of the other
27:24
things that DK has going for it, like they're immortal, they have
27:27
this awesome raid buff that like produces damage.
27:30
They don't have to take damage. It's great.
27:33
A lot of things going for it. But yeah, I mean, Mystic Touch
27:36
lives in a really weird state right now.
27:38
I was actually just kind of doing a deep dive into to
27:42
seeing, you know, how many specs are actually dealing physical
27:45
damage, right? Because the buff only effects
27:48
physical damage. And you know, Demon Hunter has
27:52
the opposite of ours that theirs effects all magical damage.
27:55
But when you really take a look at the specs that are dealing
27:58
physical damage, there's only two that are doing 100% physical
28:04
damage, which is warrior Pot Warrior is like 95% physical
28:09
damage. But yeah, I mean, those specs
28:11
are doing mostly all physical and then it slowly weans down
28:16
like you have actually, sorry, Ferrell Druid is also doing
28:20
almost 100% physical damage. And then it goes down from there
28:24
like rogue that you would think these, you know, melees that are
28:28
attacking with their daggers are doing physical damage.
28:31
It's not it's like 1 spec is doing 45% Fizz and another spec
28:36
is doing, you know, 60 or something like that.
28:38
So while those specs are really good that they take most like
28:42
benefit from it. Also Hunter is a good one.
28:45
I think it's like 80% of their damage is physical, something
28:47
like that. I don't have everything in front
28:50
of me to tell you, but somewhere around there.
28:53
So those specs are you know, that's awesome that Miss Sugar
28:56
can kind of synergize with that. But it's also really unfortunate
29:02
because Miss Sugar can't synergize with anything else.
29:05
You know, you have the state of when you really can only compare
29:09
with other healers, right? Healers are the only thing you
29:12
can kind of sort of compare with because that's what you're
29:14
fighting for. You're fighting for that healer
29:16
spot. When you look at everything that
29:17
everybody else brings, with the exception of preservation of
29:20
Ochre, though, I would say that Time Spiral is super duper good,
29:25
especially in a raid format. Obviously dies a bit and M plus
29:29
kind of has a similar vein to us, but they also have blood
29:32
lust and you know this bleed dispel that they have.
29:36
So not just necessarily about their raid buff, but the other
29:39
things that it brings. It leaves mystery in a spot of
29:43
OK, I don't bring damage reduction like devotion aura
29:46
does. I don't bring mark of the wild,
29:48
which versatility effects every single person you know their
29:52
healing and their damage with priest.
29:56
They bring Fort, so they raise stamina with I mean, that's both
30:01
priests, right? You have shaman that just got
30:04
this insane raid buff. That is probably the best raid
30:08
buff ever that they've ever created.
30:11
And it's kind of unfair, right? We we we only affect a super
30:14
small subset. Yeah, it's great.
30:17
Everybody looks out for it. I wish that I had it, but I
30:22
think actually if you look at the benefits of misrevers raid
30:26
buff compared to shamans, even on the specs that are fully
30:30
doing physical damage, shamans still wins out and they bring
30:34
bloodlust and they bring spirit link and some damage reduction.
30:38
So much like so many tools around their tool kit that just
30:42
like outshine anything that Misreur brings, that it's in a
30:47
weird spot, right? And that's kind of what I
30:49
mentioned before, that Mystic Touch is going to be brought to
30:51
a raid. There's been times where they've
30:54
decided to not bring a monk into a raid because of the way that
30:58
the raid works with that specific boss that it's really
31:00
bad for melee, for example, right?
31:02
The less melee that you have that can actually benefit from
31:05
it, the less that you need the Mystic Touch buff.
31:08
Whereas versatility effects every single person.
31:12
I do think that, you know, the buff that they did to it and the
31:15
subsequent nerf was needed. In a sense.
31:19
I I kind of understand it because that just makes that
31:22
synergy even stronger where it's like I have to play with the
31:25
speck in order to do decent. I don't know if it was the worst
31:31
thing to happen because it was gonna happen anyways, right?
31:34
You have to play with the speck to do good.
31:35
Now I just have to have to play with the speck.
31:38
I don't know, but ultimately I would like to see it changed.
31:43
I mean, I, I don't see a reason why it can't be Same with like
31:46
Demon Hunter, even though they buff literally everybody else
31:51
because it's just magical damage.
31:53
You know, chaos, which is literally every single magic
31:55
school. And when you look at every
31:57
caster, I mean, it's all magical damage.
31:59
You look at Rhett Paladin, which is doing 7% physical damage, 7%
32:04
on a melee. It's insane.
32:07
So those things are just kind of kind of weird and I wish would
32:11
change absolutely. OK, if we're then taking that
32:20
from the raid and trying to fight for that raid slot, it's
32:25
even worse when you're in a five man.
32:26
We're talking about specific setups for a Mythic Plus group,
32:32
and you're talking about Brett Paladin's only doing such a
32:35
small single digit percentage and and that does that mean that
32:43
Mystic Touch really isn't going to be benefiting most of the
32:48
groups that you might pug with? And does that mean that if
32:51
you're bringing a Miss Weaver, you're looking for a very
32:54
particular comp in Mythic Plus? Yeah, I think so.
32:58
I mean, I don't think that that's like something that you
33:02
have to super duper worry about, but synergy in M is always super
33:06
good, right? You want to have some form of
33:09
synergy within your group because if you don't, then it's
33:12
kind of like, what's the point, right?
33:14
I could have just brought, you know, this shaman that's gonna
33:18
affect everybody in my group and not just, you know, the fury
33:21
warrior that's in my group. And then everybody else doesn't
33:24
get any benefit. Now, this obviously is not to
33:27
say like this is a requirement, right?
33:29
Unfortunately, meta has always kind of come down from the top
33:32
to the bottom. So it will eventually affect
33:35
everyone, but it shouldn't, right?
33:38
If you're doing a weekly plus 10, that does not matter to
33:40
anybody. Even, you know, non world first
33:43
keys. It does not matter to anybody
33:45
really. It does add up for sure.
33:48
But yeah, I mean, it makes it hard, right, Because if you
33:52
compare, which again, back to I'm only comparing between
33:55
healers, I I can't really compare between, you know, ADPS
34:00
and a healer because I'm fighting for that spot in
34:02
particular. It it makes a bit of disrupt
34:06
when you're trying to choose because this other healer can
34:10
either do healing better than me, brings a better raid buff,
34:13
has more utility, does something better where monks monks is
34:19
really hard to sell. So getting that comp kind of
34:22
perfect is I think probably a necessity if you really want to
34:26
do super duper well. But I don't think it's, you
34:30
know, make or break, but it is a a big benefit.
34:37
One thing that I think that we haven't really talked about just
34:41
because it really hasn't been much of an issue in the last
34:44
expansion is mana efficiency. If you're running through keys
34:50
and you've got good throughput, maybe not the best throughput,
34:55
but you can just keep putting that throughput on.
34:58
That could be a place for healers in mythic Plus does Monk
35:04
farewell in that? Are you having to stop often in
35:08
order to like recoup that MP? Just are you going OOM
35:12
significantly or can you just keep trucking?
35:15
Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to lie, I don't.
35:19
I don't think that that would really matter too much if a
35:22
healer, you know, is doing medium healing, but they never
35:25
run out of mana. I think it's it's definitely the
35:29
opposite way around that if they're doing really good
35:31
healing, they usually just don't run out of mana.
35:34
But if they do really good healing anyways, they'll they'll
35:36
figure it out one way or another.
35:39
Monsieur now has I think mana's OK for M plus.
35:46
So, you know, running from pack to pack I don't think is a major
35:49
issue anyways, right? Because you have as a healer,
35:51
especially as a monk healer, right?
35:53
You just rolled forward and you're kind of like already
35:55
there at the next pack. So you can briefly sit down.
35:58
And not every pack is gonna be so much of this mana
36:01
intensiveness. Or, you know, let's say you're
36:03
walking up to a boss and there's no damage for the 1st 15
36:07
seconds, right? You can sit down before combat
36:09
starts and you don't have to really do anything until you
36:13
have to really start healing and getting prepared.
36:16
There's obviously exceptions to that rule for sure, but I don't
36:20
think that's a major issue. I mean, miss Uber now in in M
36:24
plus specifically, I can foresee mana issues once we get to these
36:29
like 3-4 five minute bosses that require either a lot of single
36:33
target healing or just really major, you know, group wide
36:38
healing. I mean, we have a talent right
36:41
now that when you drink Manatee stacks, you regain stacks of
36:46
Shaylin's Gift to heal your group more.
36:49
So we kind of got rid of this part of Manatee that was you
36:57
drink some stacks and then afterwards you have this
37:00
duration of reduced costs on on your spells.
37:04
That's now gone again, back to this like tracking mentality
37:07
type thing that they're removing in midnight.
37:09
And now it just returns mana, which I don't think it was
37:12
enough mana return that they gave us as like a, a
37:16
compensation for that being gone.
37:17
Because I think All in all, Misreaver is kind of maybe this
37:21
is our niche, right? This is our mana niche that we
37:23
are super mana reliant, you know, constantly worrying about
37:29
mana where, you know, we have some healers that you're never
37:32
think about it ever, or they're like moderately fine.
37:36
It's just a thing that they have to deal with where monks is
37:39
constantly in the back of our minds of, you know, I have to
37:41
have manatee going in order to make myself, you know, prolong
37:45
the duration that I have until the end of a fight.
37:49
So I, I, I definitely foresee a bunch of issues that can happen
37:52
as fights progress longer. I'm very worried about pre patch
37:56
right now. Nexus King is like the killer of
38:00
mana in general. And now I, I genuinely don't
38:03
know how I'm going to survive until the end.
38:05
Maybe the damage that they have reduced it by is like more than
38:08
enough to not worry about it. But if I go umm in the first
38:12
minute 30 I'm going to be very very sad.
38:16
Miss Fever. OK, that mana game, do you find
38:22
that that's a fun mini game? Like in my mind, if you're
38:28
healing and you're a fairly reactive healing, because that's
38:31
what monks do, that's what shaman healing is for the most
38:34
part, your reactive healing. That mini game is kind of what
38:37
makes you somewhat stand out in like gameplay loops.
38:43
Is the Mana mini game a fun mini game?
38:47
So I did think it was quite fun before this season.
38:52
I thought it was some way for you to not only provide a bunch
38:56
of skill expression to the gameplay, right?
38:59
You have this thing that only stacks to 20 and you can drink
39:02
it at some points. You know, you have this mana
39:05
cost reduction at the end of it that you know you want to fit in
39:09
as many mana heavy spells to do it.
39:11
So you're kind of shifting your globals around in order to like
39:14
fit a rushing wind kick in there or fit a enveloping mist in
39:18
there. That's like reduced via some
39:19
buff that you got and it allowed you to play pretty good.
39:23
Like if you didn't play manatee well, you did not get to the end
39:27
of the fight and you did not play very well.
39:31
Prior to this, this season we just had so many globals that
39:36
were active for us, or I mean, sorry, this season we just have
39:40
so many globals that are filled in.
39:42
Our CPM is so high that, you know, playing the Mana mini game
39:47
was so hard. While you have all of these
39:49
effects that are going on, you know you're getting Cdr from 4
39:52
different sources and you're constantly pressing abilities
39:57
and it's really, really hard to keep up sometimes, right?
40:00
Mystery did not start this season super well, so in order
40:04
to keep up with different healers you had to cast more,
40:08
and Manatee was just like this looming thing at the back.
40:14
I definitely need to. Cool down and screw screw your
40:16
throughput when you did it on it.
40:18
Yeah, exactly. So it's, I think it's fun, I
40:22
think it's engaging. I think it brings a level of
40:24
skill expression which a lot of it has now been reduced by that
40:28
mana cost reduction being gone where it's just kind of a now
40:31
it's really just like a kind of like bug kind of just standing
40:36
there and you gotta squash it eventually because otherwise you
40:40
don't make it to the end of a fight where some healers again
40:44
back to Shaman, you know, Shaman just kind of does what it does
40:47
and then it sticks around like 8090 and it's just there.
40:51
So yeah, I, I don't know what has to happen with it, but it's,
40:57
it's fine, I guess. OK.
41:01
We've been talking about midnight for all of this and we
41:04
haven't yet to discuss the Apex talents.
41:08
Yeah, So what is Miss Weaver's Apex talents and does it
41:12
actually change the game? Yeah, so Miss Weaver's Apex
41:17
talent is like all of them. Four points.
41:20
First one is that when you just cast, you got a chance to proc
41:25
this thing called Spirit Font, which visually I think is really
41:28
cool. Soothing Mist is kind of
41:31
something that Miss Weaver, I mean, has always had, right?
41:33
It's a super cool channeled spell that either dominates
41:37
gameplay or it does not needed all the time, just depending on
41:41
the way that you're healing. And that visual has always been
41:44
super cool to a bunch of misfivers.
41:46
I love it. And what it does is it sends off
41:49
5 soothing mists from your body on to five players.
41:54
It swaps around to different targets that you know, if they
41:57
get healed to 100%, moves on to somebody else, heals them, just
42:02
gives them, you know, this extra bit of healing from you.
42:04
So visually, I think super cool. We had a talent previously
42:09
called Unison that unfortunately got removed.
42:11
I really don't know why, probably because of this, the
42:14
Apex talent, but it just replicated your soothing mists,
42:18
right? So you could have had, I think
42:20
it was a maximum of like 16 soothing mists onto your raid at
42:23
once, which is crazy, right? It's like a spider going through
42:27
the raid of these green myths. But I mean, it was really cool.
42:32
But I understand kind of why it had to be removed to not have
42:35
that happen when that procs. And you press the sorry when it
42:39
procs, it doesn't immediately go.
42:41
You have to press it, right? It's not like immediate passive
42:44
healing, right? Yeah, you have it's tied to
42:46
enveloping this. So whenever you cast the
42:48
enveloping this after it proc, it would start doing this.
42:51
And it's not like you channeling it, it's just a buff that you
42:54
get right that just pushes it on to everybody else.
42:59
So it's really good. It also like the last point is
43:02
tied to Thunder Focus T so you can guarantee a proc that way.
43:06
The like 2 middle nodes is just you know, a little bit of extra
43:10
buff, higher rushing wind kick, rising sun kick healing more
43:15
enveloping mist healing while your spirit fonts are active.
43:18
Those are like the bonus is doubled.
43:20
So pretty basic stuff in the middle, but I mean, ultimately I
43:24
think it's really cool. I think for the way that it
43:29
heals, I think was really smart, right, that they have this
43:32
talent that's not really used much anymore.
43:34
Visually is a really major part of Mist Reaver of like your
43:38
mists, right? Your Mist healing people, you
43:40
don't really get to see them super often in gameplay just
43:44
because you don't really use soothing Mist all that much.
43:47
So to be able to activate it that way is really cool.
43:50
Thematically, I think it's really cool.
43:52
Numerically in raid it does a lot better just because of the
43:56
way that it works. And then an M Plus, I think it's
44:00
kind of all right. Definitely some other Apex
44:05
talents that I've seen that are really, really cool and do a lot
44:07
more. But All in all, I can't really
44:11
complain with it. I think it's really cool.
44:13
When it procs, how long does that?
44:16
How long do you have to use that proc?
44:19
Is it sticking around for like 10 seconds, 30 seconds, a minute
44:23
or like it appears? It's 30 seconds, so it's a
44:26
really long time on it should proc multiple times a minute.
44:30
So ideally you kind of want to use it when you get it right.
44:33
We had we had a bug on not, I guess not really a bug, but on
44:38
beta for the longest time that was actually fixed yesterday
44:42
that it was not visible on the the cooldown manager.
44:45
So it's just very hard to see when you got a proc versus like
44:48
the guaranteed one from Thunder Focus T, which I mean affect the
44:52
gameplay, right. You didn't know when you had
44:54
healing when you actually had healing where you couldn't, you
44:57
know, could have used that instead of a a cool down,
45:00
because I would say it's about cool down strength, maybe like a
45:03
mini cool down strength of of a cast.
45:06
So sticks around for a while. You could definitely plan around
45:09
it a little bit. It's not just like you get it.
45:12
You have to spend it now, but it's more so I should spend it
45:16
fairly soon. You know that that 30 seconds, I
45:19
think that's kind of great. Like if you're at the end of a
45:22
pack, you're like, no, no, I'm just going to bring this into
45:24
the next one. If you're if it procs in the
45:27
middle of a boss fighting, you know, the next damage events
45:30
coming up, you kind of can save it to like actually be
45:33
effective. I like that.
45:35
OK. Yeah, it's pretty good.
45:38
I I think that the way that it works is really well, I think
45:41
it's better than kind of some of the things that we've seen in
45:44
the war within where we have this buff that is literally
45:47
infinite, which I think is a bit unfair of of just the way that
45:52
it plays. I think that it should never
45:53
have been infinite. And definitely maybe a 30 second
45:57
thing would have been nice too there, but it was definitely a a
46:01
major bonus to monk. OK.
46:04
All right. Last things that I want to ask
46:05
you about congening with talents, of course, in midnight,
46:11
sorry, in midnight we're going to have a new row of talents in
46:15
both of those heroes trees. I think Monk also got some
46:18
talents completely pulled out and replaced as well for for
46:23
their hero trees. How are those looking?
46:26
Let's start with like the conduit of the Celestials.
46:28
Like how is condo Celestials looking with those new talents?
46:32
Yeah, so Conduit was definitely the the baby of whoever did our
46:37
hero trees of, of, you know, looking at the way that monks
46:42
should play it got a lot of changes to it, so much more than
46:47
Master of Harmony. In the Conduit celestials tree
46:50
we got, you know, a choice, a new choice node between whether
46:54
or not our celestials active. If we do 5% more healing, it's a
46:57
little bit boring, but 5% is 5% in cooldowns.
47:00
I'll take it with another choice node there that increases rising
47:04
sun kick damage. So pretty good.
47:06
The tree is just to like preface, it is very well known
47:10
for not great damage because Master of Harmony did phenomenal
47:15
damage when it really needed to, so it got a lot of supporting
47:19
talents for damage there. There's another one that conduit
47:23
itself, the actual button press no longer gets increased by the
47:28
number of targets up to a cap. Now it is doing maximum damage
47:34
until 5 targets, and then it gets reduced past that, so it
47:38
does even more damage. Now there's a talent there that
47:41
increases its damage and healing when you have lower amounts of
47:47
targets to do. So it's like kind of inverse but
47:50
still doing good damage and healing.
47:53
So those are really good. Those are welcomed.
47:56
I don't really love that they're adding damage onto our tree.
48:00
I guess some of the damage gets pushed into healing, like the
48:03
Rising Sun kick for example, right?
48:04
Because it converts into healing.
48:07
Not a super big fan of of that in particular, but it's fine.
48:10
The tree really needed some of that damage like I mentioned
48:14
earlier, like our hero talents are coming in to the tree now.
48:17
So changing the way that Heart of the Jade Serpent worked from
48:20
Shaolin's Gift to Thunder Focus T activating it and then Thunder
48:24
Focus T gets cooldown reduction through Heart of the Jade
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Serpent. So very, very much like a, a, a
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cyclical relationship with both of them.
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We gain haste during our Heart of the Jade Serpent.
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There's one more that I'm totally blanking on that we got
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on our new robe that I can't remember.
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Oh, it's a, a random proc to Heart of the Jade Serpent.
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So a lot of really good things working there for Thunder Focus
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T like now it's it's kind of become this like almost major
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cooldown. So many things are tied to it
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now that it's super strong. That makes the tree really,
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really strong. So a lot of things there.
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Master of Harmony unfortunately got some really sad changes that
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I don't love with the tier sets edition.
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Like I mentioned before, it was kind of like in a reduced format
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right before it was super overbearing and did a lot of
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healing when it really, really got into it and especially on
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the lower end, did a lot of healing when you just didn't
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really have too much to heal anyways.
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And then they reduce it down to like when we get a rising sun
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kick that is guaranteed, which is good, right?
49:30
That's a good way to to move around it from what it
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previously was of just like the more healing you do, the more
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chances you have to gain a stack of it.
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So that was really good. We got another node that
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increases ancient teachings healing by 50% or the, excuse
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me, the the transfer of damage into healing by 50%.
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So fairly basic node. The capstone of the tree was, I
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would say, reworked. Not necessarily a nerf, not
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really a buff. Puffed for raid nerf for M plus
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kind of. It used to have this 20% heel
50:04
amp attached to it that had a lot of intricacies on it that a
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lot of mysteries are very confused.
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I had to write a whole guide about it.
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Make weak wores around it. It was a super convoluted thing
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that still is kind of around there but isn't really worried
50:18
some anymore. But it was reworked, so it made
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it so that when you cast Vivify or Shalin's Gift now it puts a
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Hot for 100% of the amount that you healed onto that player and
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reducing from this vitality pool that you had, which is really
50:37
good. It's very solid for healing.
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But as a result of that, you know, Shalin's Gift, for
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example, an M plus it stacks up to 10.
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So the more stacks you have, the more healing it does.
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And when you press it at 10 stacks, that's a lot of healing.
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So it just like wipes your entire pool worth of vitality.
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So previously where we had these really big burst moments of
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healing when you press Thunder focus T that gave you this heel
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amp that gave you this pool of of healing to work with either
51:06
applied onto healing or damage. Now when you do it, you just
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don't have enough vitality regularly like to to do anything
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with. So good for raid, right?
51:16
Because now you have this, this pool that can no longer cap
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anymore. Previously in raid, you just sit
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on 100% vitality for, you know, 10 seconds because you press it,
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you do a bunch of healing and then it's done.
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So good for raid and plus, which it was mainly good for, lost out
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a lot. You don't do damage with the
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tree anymore. The thing that used to do like
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30 to 40% of your damage is now 2%.
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A lot of the healing nodes do practically nothing for healing.
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It's very, very damage focused, which is fine.
51:47
It worked really well. But when we're comparing the two
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trees, it's, I mean, the difference is quite stark.
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Perhaps the team is gonna come back with another pass through.
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Maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately I was was playing
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Shaman at the throughout the War Within and for those who might
52:12
remember, one of the the hero talents was left in a really
52:19
horrible position and didn't get its rework until the Point O5
52:25
patch. So let's hope that's not the
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situation for you. I'm glad one of your trees looks
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like a baby gem and it's wonderful.
52:34
So you do have an option, but you want you want both options
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to be viable. Yeah, and I mean, Miss Sugar, I
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think is not not a stranger to these things happening where
52:45
things start off really bad and then they get moderately good as
52:48
time progresses, just with, you know, recognizing that there's
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an issue and then it being solved.
52:53
I think Miss Sugar has done really good in like
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Dragonflight. The wherewithin dragonflight,
52:59
especially the the rise of miss fever was pretty crazy from the
53:04
depths of nothing to pretty solid.
53:07
You know, being a meta healer in in dragonflight season 3 and
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being wanted pretty often for raid.
53:12
And you know, while it didn't do the highest of keys that resto
53:15
Jura did in that season, it still was the most populous
53:19
healer, which is like unforeseen levels of gameplay.
53:23
So I'm hoping that something comes of it.
53:26
I think leaving the tree in the dust is is not a good thing.
53:30
Hopefully this is like the devs evil plan of like let me make
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the tree so bad nobody plays it and then I have to tell Blizzard
53:37
I have to rework this tree to get players on because they did
53:42
some crazy changes in the war within that made the tree super
53:45
meta and and I think like the .5 or point yeah something patched
53:51
like that that made it really good, which is mostly bug fixes,
53:56
but this isn't bug fixes. This is just tuning and bad
54:00
nodes. The the last thing that I've got
54:04
to ask you because you are the first healer that we've had on
54:08
for this series, with the add-ons and the changes to the
54:14
API, healers will not have access to nearly the same amount
54:19
of information that they used to have.
54:22
How much is that affecting Miss Weavers in particular?
54:27
Yeah, I think that it's not super affecting monk as much as
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other healers are like rest of druid feel bad for him, hate
54:37
them, but feel bad for him. But I, I think it does in some
54:41
of these moments of miss Weaver, like for example, with, you
54:44
know, renewing miss coverage on the raid right when we have, and
54:49
granted, there is add-ons, I have not checked it out yet.
54:51
So I could be just saying things that are fully in function now.
54:55
But when you look at, you know, these buffs for me personally,
54:58
like I've always played with my renewing mist at the top right,
55:01
my enveloping mist in the middle on the bottom right.
55:04
I had, you know, enveloping breath, for example, and
55:07
soothing mist was at the top. So definitely being able to like
55:10
filter out where things are on my raid frames helps me in
55:14
figuring out quickly who has what.
55:17
Now the way that they work now is that, I mean, you have no
55:22
filtering whatsoever. You have one singular line of of
55:26
hots or buffs that you apply onto them with what add-ons can
55:31
do now, which is filter them by like making them alphabetical or
55:35
by like duration. But that doesn't do anything for
55:38
me because something that's alphabetical could be less
55:42
important, right? When I look at, let's say chi
55:45
cocoon versus enveloping mist versus renewing mist, right,
55:49
they would just display in that order.
55:51
But chi cocoons to me don't really mean too much.
55:54
They do if I'm playing a specific build and I have to do
55:57
some things on it. But I don't really care all that
55:59
much about who has this absorb on them.
56:02
I care about who has my renewing mist so that when I place
56:05
another renewing mist, I'm not wasting it, right?
56:07
There's some fall back mechanics that renewing mist has that when
56:10
you place a new one on somebody that has one already that can
56:15
jump to somebody, but only if somebody is injured and near
56:19
them in like a 20 yard range. So it's really good that there's
56:22
this like fall back protection on it.
56:24
But if those things are not true, I've now lost this
56:27
renewing mist, right? And for me to quickly identify
56:30
things that are happening on my raid.
56:32
I mean, it's hard. It's it's definitely pretty hard
56:35
and like the heat of the moment, especially, right?
56:36
I mean, I'm sure like if anybody has ever progged something, you
56:41
tunnel vision sometimes and it's really easy to get into these
56:43
hard moments of a raid boss and you go into it and you just kind
56:49
of are I guess on autopilot. So for you to be able to get
56:53
there, like figuring out those things in the moment makes it
56:56
really hard filtering out buffs or or debuffs that are
57:00
unimportant, right? I filter out currently every
57:04
debuff that is like raid wide. I know when my raid is taking
57:07
damage. I don't care that they, I have
57:09
this debuff on them that's ticking for 1% of their health.
57:13
I, I, I could care less about that, but it's on my raid frames
57:16
without a choice for me to get rid of that.
57:19
And as a healer, I feel like even with mystery, right, it's
57:24
it, it just, I've lost agency for anything that I'm doing
57:28
right. ADPS can display their their
57:31
Dots on a nameplate. They can display their cooldowns
57:35
on their cooldown manager in any order that they want, wherever
57:38
they want, how they want. There's obviously limitations to
57:41
it, but I just don't have that agency anymore.
57:46
So I'm, I'm a bit worried. I, I think that some things that
57:50
they have done, or I guess I should say lack of doing is very
57:55
clear that, you know, healers are not at their forefront of
57:59
what they're doing. And they're definitely, you
58:01
know, even though they've said they want to make healing
58:03
easier, this is not the right way to do it.
58:07
Even as a mystery. I, I got some Flack the other
58:11
day for being the only healer with these like survival guides
58:14
that Wowhead is doing, being the only healer that didn't mention
58:17
raid frames. But for me, it was like, every
58:20
healer's gonna do it. So let me talk about the actual
58:22
problems with my spec, then talk about something that's kind of
58:26
well known anyways. You're not going to repeat the
58:30
same thing that five other specs have put in, as well as several
58:34
of the DPS and tanks along with it.
58:36
OK, Yeah. Exactly.
58:40
OK, well honestly this is being an amazing talk and now I'm
58:44
looking at it. We're at the hour.
58:46
So did I say 45 minutes when I initially started this man?
58:51
Eventually. I don't even know.
58:54
But this has been an amazing conversation.
58:57
When people want to find you and your stuff, where can they find
59:00
you? Yeah, I mean, I mostly talk
59:04
through discord to people. I'm in peak of serenity super
59:07
duper often. I'm in their swirl, always known
59:10
as swirl pretty much everywhere I stream on Twitch lol.
59:15
Twirl on Twitch don't really do that much right now, just mostly
59:18
Prague stuff, key stuff when I'm actually doing that of odds on
59:23
swirl streams on YouTube. That's pretty much it.
59:26
If you got a question feel free to pop in to peek and at me.
59:30
Always down to to help. That's awesome.
59:35
Thank you so much and hopefully good things coming for months
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and for the raid frames and we will see you guys all in
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midnight. Until next time, may all your
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hits be grits.