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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hi, this is Rashaan McDonald, a host this weekly Money
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- 0:26Speaker 1: get this show started. I'm working on the documentary, and
- 0:29Speaker 1: the documentary is about wealth. I write an article that
- 0:32Speaker 1: said two point three million. Charles Swabs does his annual
- 0:37Speaker 1: wealth article, the two point three million dollars you'll be
- 0:41Speaker 1: defined as wealthy or rich. Now that's based on Houston,
- 0:45Speaker 1: Texas polls. Now, that might go on different areas of
- 0:49Speaker 1: the country, but I felt there was appropriate to bring
- 0:51Speaker 1: that up that I'm working on documentary because my next
- 0:54Speaker 1: guest delves in the direction of wealth. Let me introduce
- 0:57Speaker 1: them to you. My guess is a basketball enthusiasts with
- 1:01Speaker 1: thirty five years of plan experience. He has played at
- 1:04Speaker 1: every major level, including ten years in the world's best league,
- 1:08Speaker 1: the NBA. He's written a book and titles First Generation Rich.
- 1:13Speaker 1: His book delves into the unique challenges and opportunities faced
- 1:16Speaker 1: by individuals who are first generational rich. He offers insights
- 1:21Speaker 1: and strategies to cultivate deeper, more meaningful connections with your
- 1:25Speaker 1: loved one. Please work with the Money Making Conversation Masterclass
- 1:28Speaker 1: Troy as I call him t Hood Hudson.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Now you're doing, my brother, I'm pretty good? How about you?
- 1:34Speaker 1: Well, you know, it was just a perfect time in
- 1:37Speaker 1: about this book's first Generation Rich because I am working
- 1:40Speaker 1: on a documentary by Wealth and trying to get understanding
- 1:43Speaker 1: what wealth means to different people and how they value
- 1:46Speaker 1: it and how they achieve it. Now, if I make
- 1:48Speaker 1: a statement to you, you have this book off and
- 1:51Speaker 1: Charles Swarp did a survey in Houston textas they said,
- 1:54Speaker 1: if you have two point three million dollars, you can
- 1:57Speaker 1: consider yourself rich. What are your thoughts on that?
- 2:02Speaker 2: I believe, So, you know, two point three million dollars
- 2:04Speaker 2: to the You know, the the avid citizen is a
- 2:07Speaker 2: is a lot of money and and the key term
- 2:11Speaker 2: there is rich. Uh. It's something that you can you
- 2:14Speaker 2: can turn into wealth, but you have to you have
- 2:17Speaker 2: to make sure you make you know, the right decisions
- 2:19Speaker 2: with that those riches in order for them, uh, to
- 2:22Speaker 2: to accumulate wealth.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Right, you talk about long term and I know you
- 2:26Speaker 1: use two words there you can do. You say the
- 2:28Speaker 1: word rich and wealth, And I'm assuming rich can be
- 2:32Speaker 1: defined as temporary. Wealth feels like a legacy? Are long term?
- 2:36Speaker 1: Am I correct in as assumption?
- 2:38Speaker 2: Uh, You're you're absolutely one hundred percent correct. You know,
- 2:41Speaker 2: I think a lot of times we don't understand that
- 2:46Speaker 2: those two differences. And rich in wealth, you know, there's
- 2:49Speaker 2: a lot of rich people in the world and there's
- 2:52Speaker 2: only you know, a few wealthy people and in terms
- 2:57Speaker 2: of the amount of people that's on the earth, so
- 3:00Speaker 2: you know, trying to turn those riches into wealth is
- 3:03Speaker 2: easier said than done. There's a lot of you know,
- 3:06Speaker 2: stumbles that that go along. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.
- 3:11Speaker 2: Sometimes there's gambles that you have to take in order
- 3:14Speaker 2: to to accumulate wealth. But I mean there's a lot
- 3:18Speaker 2: of principles that can allow you to remain rich for
- 3:22Speaker 2: the rest of your life, which is fine, but if
- 3:24Speaker 2: you want to you know, be wealthy, you have to
- 3:27Speaker 2: be very prodent in your approaches to the money.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Well, it's really important that people understand what he's saying. Leon,
- 3:34Speaker 1: I mean Elon Musk. He's wealthy, he's he's the richest
- 3:39Speaker 1: man in the world. You put to a rich and
- 3:40Speaker 1: wealthy they him and we all know Leon Eon I
- 3:43Speaker 1: want to call Leon. I don't know why. I yeah,
- 3:47Speaker 1: I know he probably go crazy. I'm calling him Leon,
- 3:50Speaker 1: But uh, he's a wealthy guy. So as Warren Buffett
- 3:54Speaker 1: wealthy guy gates wealthy people, uh tilm and Fatida and
- 3:59Speaker 1: he hous to Texas wealthy. These people are buying items
- 4:03Speaker 1: and what you consider a higher rental or high rates.
- 4:06Speaker 1: It kind of like uber rates for them when they
- 4:08Speaker 1: go out and live their lifestyle, private jets, you know,
- 4:12Speaker 1: large planes. Security because people can kidnap these type of
- 4:17Speaker 1: people if they allow themselves to be exposed like that. Now,
- 4:21Speaker 1: your wealth basketball player, tell us about that before we
- 4:25Speaker 1: get into the book. Your journey from your minority some
- 4:29Speaker 1: assuming you were not born into wealth, but you came
- 4:32Speaker 1: into it because the NBA in you introduce you to
- 4:36Speaker 1: a higher income. Back, talk about that initial journey of
- 4:40Speaker 1: where you came from so we can establish the conversation
- 4:43Speaker 1: we're gonna have about your book.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Well, I'm from a southern Illinois, which is when I
- 4:50Speaker 2: tell people are from Illinois, they automatically as from Chicago.
- 4:54Speaker 2: But I'm from southern Illinois, which is actually closer to
- 4:57Speaker 2: Saint Louis. Is an hour to a half from Saint Louis,
- 5:00Speaker 2: three and a half hours from Memphis, and I'm actually
- 5:02Speaker 2: five hours south of Chicago. So I'm in the southern
- 5:05Speaker 2: part of Illinois. And i was born in public housing.
- 5:10Speaker 2: You know, I was raised by my my mother, my grandmother,
- 5:14Speaker 2: aunts and uncles. You know, it was It's one of
- 5:16Speaker 2: those things where it takes a village, right. But you know,
- 5:20Speaker 2: I'm from public housing in southern Illinois. You know, we
- 5:24Speaker 2: we came from, you know, things that we needed, not
- 5:27Speaker 2: things that we wanted. You know, you you ate what
- 5:30Speaker 2: was on the table, you know, ate whatever your mama
- 5:32Speaker 2: or grandmother had. Right. We all slept in one room,
- 5:38Speaker 2: right and you know, here and there you have cable
- 5:42Speaker 2: TV sometimes you do sometimes, you know, so a very
- 5:45Speaker 2: humble beginning, and and you know, I just found the
- 5:48Speaker 2: love for sports right in my hometown, Carbondale, Illinois is
- 5:53Speaker 2: only it's only probably thirty thousand residents at that time,
- 5:58Speaker 2: and that was including students, so prominent residencies were probably
- 6:03Speaker 2: fifteen thousand people in Carbondale when the students wasn't there
- 6:07Speaker 2: at Southern Law University. So very very small town, not
- 6:12Speaker 2: a lot of infrastructure. Growing up, we didn't have a
- 6:16Speaker 2: lot of outlets. So sports was a way for me
- 6:20Speaker 2: to really be able to, you know, travel the world,
- 6:24Speaker 2: travel the state, and play the game that I loved.
- 6:28Speaker 2: And it took me a long way. It took me
- 6:30Speaker 2: from those humble beginnings across the world to where I
- 6:33Speaker 2: was playing in Madison Square Garden, the Staples Center and
- 6:38Speaker 2: all across the United States and able to garner a
- 6:42Speaker 2: you know, successful career in a large contract. When I
- 6:46Speaker 2: was here with the Minnesota Timberwolves in two thousand and
- 6:49Speaker 2: three was my biggest contract. The only one that I
- 6:53Speaker 2: signed for multi years was here with the Timberwolves in
- 6:56Speaker 2: two thousand and three two thousand and four, which was
- 6:59Speaker 2: for thirty six minusion dollars, and at that time the NBA,
- 7:03Speaker 2: that was considered a pretty decent contract. Right now, thirty
- 7:08Speaker 2: six million dollars in the NBA.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Troy, let's talk about where you signed it. Okay,
- 7:15Speaker 1: that's a different error. Okay, we talk about people being
- 7:17Speaker 1: traded and being mad making sixty million dollars a year. Okay,
- 7:21Speaker 1: now we're talking about thirty six million. Well you said
- 7:23Speaker 1: two thousand.
- 7:24Speaker 2: And three, Yes, two thousand and three.
- 7:27Speaker 1: I you know, I sat up in my chair when
- 7:29Speaker 1: I heard that contract. I'm just gonna let you know
- 7:31Speaker 1: that right now. I sat up in my chair. But
- 7:34Speaker 1: when people hear that number, I always tell people, because
- 7:37Speaker 1: you are an you are an athlete, I call that
- 7:40Speaker 1: working wealthy. And people said, well, you here, you rashan.
- 7:44Speaker 1: It means as long as he can perform a task
- 7:48Speaker 1: that's tied to that number, he's a rich man. But
- 7:50Speaker 1: as soon as he cannot perform that task, that thirty
- 7:53Speaker 1: six million dollar contract will go away. So his work
- 7:57Speaker 1: and his income are tied one on one. That's not
- 8:00Speaker 1: the case with Musk, that's not the case with Warren Buffett.
- 8:04Speaker 1: They make money while they sleep. They make what I
- 8:06Speaker 1: call mailbox money. They go to their mailbox check sitting
- 8:09Speaker 1: in there. He has to make his money when he
- 8:12Speaker 1: went between the lines between those two goals on that
- 8:15Speaker 1: court and practice. That's how you made your money. Did
- 8:18Speaker 1: you understand that at the time when you signed that contract?
- 8:21Speaker 2: Troy you know what, I really didn't because at the
- 8:25Speaker 2: time I signed it, I think I was twenty five
- 8:28Speaker 2: years old, right, and it was it was, it was.
- 8:31Speaker 2: It was a large amount of money at twenty five
- 8:34Speaker 2: years old. And when you when you when you're young,
- 8:36Speaker 2: you think you're gonna be doing something for the rest
- 8:38Speaker 2: of your life. You're not counting to your days. At
- 8:42Speaker 2: twenty five, I'm like, hey, i'ma be hooping for the
- 8:44Speaker 2: rest of my life. I'm not understanding that. Said that
- 8:47Speaker 2: the needs are gonna go bad, the hips are gonna
- 8:49Speaker 2: go bad, ankles are gonna be shattered, I'm not understanding that.
- 8:52Speaker 2: So at that time, and like I said, being the
- 8:56Speaker 2: first generation rich, I didn't really under stand that. You
- 9:01Speaker 2: know that you have to really be, you know, careful
- 9:06Speaker 2: with their spending and you know, and I was never
- 9:09Speaker 2: an extravagant spender, but even to the point where you
- 9:13Speaker 2: have to really start taking money serious at that point.
- 9:19Speaker 2: And the hardest thing for us is we're always playing.
- 9:22Speaker 2: We always have to be on the court, we always
- 9:24Speaker 2: have to be in the gym, so you almost have
- 9:27Speaker 2: to rely on someone else to do that for you.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Well, you know, let's let's talk about that because let's
- 9:32Speaker 1: talk about your time. And people don't understand that when
- 9:36Speaker 1: you are fatigued and when you are rushed, and that's
- 9:39Speaker 1: what anathlete is. They're always fatigued, they have to play.
- 9:42Speaker 1: They always feel like they're rushing and rush Russian. You
- 9:44Speaker 1: have a general tendency out of boredom to spend money
- 9:47Speaker 1: just to keep your keep you active, can keep you focused.
- 9:51Speaker 1: You know, I knew I had that bad habit. You know,
- 9:54Speaker 1: I just buy shoes, buy shoes, just go buy something
- 9:57Speaker 1: that gets because I was just so fatigued. I'm not
- 10:00Speaker 1: saying I was an athlete, but I was always traveling.
- 10:02Speaker 1: I was always staying in a hotel bed. And so
- 10:06Speaker 1: that's what he's talking about. You know, you can you
- 10:09Speaker 1: have all this money, but you never have to go
- 10:11Speaker 1: in the grocery store and say how much that costs?
- 10:14Speaker 1: And that's that's not smart. You should always know how
- 10:18Speaker 1: much something costs. When you lose that context, that's when
- 10:22Speaker 1: you're spending too much money. Am I correct?
- 10:24Speaker 2: Troy? No, You're you're you're one hundred percent correct. Like
- 10:27Speaker 2: like you said, when you when you have a certain
- 10:29Speaker 2: amount of money, especially when you're young, right, you may
- 10:32Speaker 2: you may look at your grandmother and she she's clipping
- 10:35Speaker 2: off q pons because she probably was young at one
- 10:38Speaker 2: time and she probably was spending like that. But as
- 10:40Speaker 2: she got older and wiser, she's like, you know what,
- 10:42Speaker 2: I know, I got a lot of money, but why
- 10:44Speaker 2: not say this ten cents? Right? And you know, and
- 10:46Speaker 2: when you have a lot of money, you like, I
- 10:48Speaker 2: ain't thinking about ten cents. You know, I got thirty
- 10:50Speaker 2: six million. I go ahead and spend you know, a
- 10:52Speaker 2: dollar on some eggs, whether than ninety cent, right, So
- 10:55Speaker 2: you're you're not really not looking at it in the
- 10:58Speaker 2: ways that you should be looking at as far as
- 10:59Speaker 2: longevity is concerned. Right.
- 11:01Speaker 1: You know, That's what I'm excited by bringing on the show.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Troy talking to Troy Hudson, former NBA star his book
- 11:09Speaker 1: First Generational Rich, Because as you go through that book
- 11:13Speaker 1: is his test chapters are simple before money, after money,
- 11:17Speaker 1: family and friends, my desires, their desires because it's just
- 11:20Speaker 1: talking about and it was about I think it was
- 11:22Speaker 1: about chapter five when it actually started talking about him
- 11:26Speaker 1: his desires. Okay, because let's talk about we kind of
- 11:29Speaker 1: talked about before money. You talked about where you grew
- 11:32Speaker 1: up in southern Illinois, traveling the world. And then in
- 11:35Speaker 1: two thousand and three you was making some checks. Now,
- 11:38Speaker 1: but in two thousand and three, when that thirty six
- 11:41Speaker 1: million dollar contract came out, your life had the change
- 11:45Speaker 1: amongst your friends and your family. Talk about that, Oh.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. In the book, I call the media locke
- 11:52Speaker 2: in right, right, that's when you know you signed that
- 11:56Speaker 2: contract and it's on ESPN. You can you can type
- 11:59Speaker 2: in Troy Hutson and all on the internet, and all
- 12:01Speaker 2: my finances and everything comes up and they tell you
- 12:06Speaker 2: how much I'm making year one, year two, year three.
- 12:09Speaker 2: And what happens is a lot of people don't understand
- 12:11Speaker 2: that first and foremost you're getting paid on the first
- 12:15Speaker 2: and fifteen. So that right there alone means you have
- 12:19Speaker 2: to budget. Right, Whenever you're getting paid like that, you
- 12:22Speaker 2: have to budget. You have to budget anyway, But when
- 12:24Speaker 2: you getting paid like that, you have to budget. They
- 12:26Speaker 2: didn't just say, you know what, he go thirty six
- 12:28Speaker 2: million dollars, put it in the bank and now you
- 12:30Speaker 2: can just spend how you want to spend. Right, So
- 12:32Speaker 2: when money is coming like that, it's easier to start
- 12:37Speaker 2: giving away to people's requests. And when I say request.
- 12:42Speaker 2: I'm not talking hey, can I ball fifty dollars? I'm
- 12:45Speaker 2: talking about people were expecting fifty thousand, one hundred thousand.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Some were even said, you can give all of us
- 12:54Speaker 2: a million dollars, right, And it's like, I don't even
- 12:57Speaker 2: have a million dollars in the bank account right now,
- 12:58Speaker 2: you know. So people wasn't understanding that, and so right then,
- 13:03Speaker 2: that's when my life drastically started changing. And not because
- 13:09Speaker 2: of any dwelling of money or whatever. It was the
- 13:12Speaker 2: relationships I had, you know, the relationships that I had
- 13:16Speaker 2: with family and friends that had been unconditional because I
- 13:19Speaker 2: didn't have anything to give them, right, so they were
- 13:21Speaker 2: always unconditional. And the moment when you're twenty five years
- 13:25Speaker 2: old and maybe a year or two start goes away
- 13:29Speaker 2: and you start realizing white people around and whether it
- 13:33Speaker 2: was some conscious on their part or knowingly, and I
- 13:36Speaker 2: believe it was some conscious in most cases. I mean,
- 13:39Speaker 2: I'm the only person with money money, so I think
- 13:42Speaker 2: it was some conscious.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Around your bedroom, people just standing around your bed.
- 13:50Speaker 2: Exactly. And when you're twenty five years old and you're
- 13:54Speaker 2: trying to navigate this thing called life and wealth with
- 13:57Speaker 2: no people that you really think that are there conditionally.
- 14:01Speaker 2: That's where I think the hardship starts to happen. That's
- 14:08Speaker 2: when the initial hardship starts to happen, because now it's
- 14:11Speaker 2: mental first, it's mental before it becomes a financial physical hardship.
- 14:17Speaker 2: And when you start losing people for the sense of
- 14:20Speaker 2: you know, I went weeks without answering to anybody's phone
- 14:23Speaker 2: call because I got tired of you know, We'll talk
- 14:27Speaker 2: for about twenty thirty minutes and then at last two minutes,
- 14:29Speaker 2: is you know what? I hate to say it, I
- 14:32Speaker 2: hate to ask you, but I'm like dank. So this
- 14:35Speaker 2: whole conversation was really a setup for the act. And
- 14:38Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't, but I start feeling that way.
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- 15:08Speaker 1: Now Troy and writing this book, you always talk about money,
- 15:13Speaker 1: and before we talk about the financial advisor, where are
- 15:17Speaker 1: what was your worst investment.
- 15:21Speaker 2: My My worst investment, I would say, was probably in
- 15:26Speaker 2: the music industry, creating a regulabel uh and and in
- 15:33Speaker 2: the bad part of that that investment was I use
- 15:37Speaker 2: my own money. You know, just as you get older,
- 15:41Speaker 2: you realize to use someone else's money, or thanks money,
- 15:45Speaker 2: or an investor. But I always, you know, I always
- 15:48Speaker 2: was just confident in myself to to the point where
- 15:52Speaker 2: you know, I wanted to, you know, go out on
- 15:55Speaker 2: the limb. I didn't want to have to prove anybody
- 15:56Speaker 2: that I could do something. So if I had the finances,
- 15:59Speaker 2: I say, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna jump
- 16:01Speaker 2: out and I'm going to try to make it happen
- 16:03Speaker 2: on my own. So I would say that was probably
- 16:06Speaker 2: the worst investment. But and it's a it's a it
- 16:11Speaker 2: was a bad investment as far as in the sense
- 16:13Speaker 2: of finances and things of that nature. But I did
- 16:16Speaker 2: help a lot of people, and I invested in people
- 16:20Speaker 2: in that venture, so I got some gratification out of,
- 16:24Speaker 2: you know, seeing people smile and trying to help others
- 16:27Speaker 2: dreams come true. But as far as financially, that probably
- 16:31Speaker 2: was the worst one.
- 16:32Speaker 1: Let me ask you this on that whole music side,
- 16:34Speaker 1: because a lot of celebrities, a lot of especially athletes,
- 16:38Speaker 1: they want the nightclubs. You know, it feels like it's excitement,
- 16:42Speaker 1: quick money. It feels like they get caught up in
- 16:45Speaker 1: the videos, the what ifs.
- 16:47Speaker 2: You know.
- 16:48Speaker 1: The income seems like it can be made overnight versus
- 16:51Speaker 1: the stock market. You know, that's what I would say,
- 16:53Speaker 1: go over to the stock market versus investing in in
- 16:57Speaker 1: the music industry. Where was you at right there with
- 17:00Speaker 1: your financial advisor? Was a financial advisor in your life
- 17:03Speaker 1: at that time or you were turning to one.
- 17:07Speaker 2: Well, when I initially started to get into the music industry,
- 17:12Speaker 2: I didn't have a financial advice. But then when I
- 17:16Speaker 2: did get one, what we and he understood my dreams,
- 17:20Speaker 2: He understood my aspilations and my drive.
- 17:23Speaker 3: Right.
- 17:23Speaker 2: So even though you get a financial advisor, you still
- 17:26Speaker 2: got the last say, right. And I've always been the
- 17:29Speaker 2: type of guy like no, I stealed it, I believe
- 17:32Speaker 2: in it, I'm gonna do it. So what he was
- 17:34Speaker 2: able to do was make sure that I did it
- 17:37Speaker 2: in a more wise way. So I actually built a studio.
- 17:41Speaker 2: In building the studio, I was able to, you know,
- 17:45Speaker 2: get certain of write offs. Then I was able to
- 17:49Speaker 2: lease the space out, and so I was able to
- 17:53Speaker 2: you know, get some of that money back and at
- 17:55Speaker 2: the same time pursue my dream. We actually had two
- 17:59Speaker 2: We had ones. I had studio. I would have the
- 18:01Speaker 2: blue side, and I had the green side. So my
- 18:03Speaker 2: green side was where I can make money, and that
- 18:06Speaker 2: was a different tax credit and benefit than my blue side.
- 18:11Speaker 2: So once I did get a financial advisor, I was
- 18:14Speaker 2: able to make, you know, sounding decisions. I still made
- 18:17Speaker 2: some decisions without him knowing, because that's what a young
- 18:20Speaker 2: a young person does, right. It wasn't smart, but I was,
- 18:24Speaker 2: you know, I would do some things because I knew
- 18:25Speaker 2: he would say, no, that's not wise, you shouldn't do that.
- 18:28Speaker 2: So those are some of the mistakes I made, even
- 18:30Speaker 2: after I got an advisor, sometimes not being advised.
- 18:34Speaker 1: Right when you when you were talking about first generation
- 18:36Speaker 1: rich your book, and you're talking about, like I said,
- 18:40Speaker 1: working wealthy physically, everything you do is your money is
- 18:44Speaker 1: tied to what you can do on the court. When
- 18:47Speaker 1: you make these mistakes, you don't have anybody to turn
- 18:51Speaker 1: to other than your fellow athlete. How does that work
- 18:54Speaker 1: itself out? When you're dealing with a lot of more
- 18:56Speaker 1: young people, a lot of young individuals in the NBA.
- 19:00Speaker 1: They are just like you, sometimes twenty twenty two, maybe
- 19:03Speaker 1: twenty six, maybe a year older than you at the time.
- 19:06Speaker 1: What do you How does that world that you co
- 19:09Speaker 1: mingle with deal with all that revenue? And do you
- 19:12Speaker 1: have mentors?
- 19:16Speaker 2: It's at that time, you really don't. You really don't
- 19:19Speaker 2: have mentors at that time. And there's something that should
- 19:23Speaker 2: have been implemented. And I'm not around the game as
- 19:25Speaker 2: much anymore on that side, so I don't know if
- 19:28Speaker 2: they're if they have that now. But one thing I
- 19:32Speaker 2: would say is everyone was doing the same thing when
- 19:36Speaker 2: I when I was playing in two thousand and three,
- 19:38Speaker 2: from ninety nine to probably two thousand and ten or whatever,
- 19:41Speaker 2: everyone was doing the same thing. You either had a
- 19:44Speaker 2: record label, you either had a studio, a production studio.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Everyone was doing the same thing. So we don't operate
- 19:52Speaker 2: in the way that the owners, right, the owners work together,
- 19:57Speaker 2: the athletes don't work together, right, you know, do you
- 20:00Speaker 2: have enough influence and finances to where if we wanted
- 20:04Speaker 2: to create our own independent record label, we should have
- 20:08Speaker 2: did or distribution company, we should have did it all together?
- 20:11Speaker 1: As a team as a team.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Means the friends are the artists, right, But we don't.
- 20:16Speaker 2: We all we work independently. And we watched the owners,
- 20:20Speaker 2: all thirty owners work together to own the NBA, and
- 20:24Speaker 2: so the athletes don't do the same thing as the
- 20:26Speaker 2: owners do. And I think that's one one area that
- 20:31Speaker 2: has to be you know correct. Lebron does it in
- 20:34Speaker 2: a way. You know, he has his it called the
- 20:36Speaker 2: Banana Boat Crew and they're kind of paving a way
- 20:39Speaker 2: to show you how to do it. But it's not collected.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Right, and that's important. Lebron has just a genius, is
- 20:47Speaker 1: how he outlined his life, because he came into the
- 20:49Speaker 1: NBA with a plan and he's stuck to that plan.
- 20:53Speaker 1: That's why he's a billionaire. And most of his very
- 20:55Speaker 1: close friends who we sent to college by the way,
- 20:58Speaker 1: a million multi millionaire as as well, from Maverick to
- 21:02Speaker 1: Rich Paul, the most powerful basketball agent. Maverick which is
- 21:06Speaker 1: his right hand man handles all of his deals, just
- 21:09Speaker 1: signed another big deal to create a European basketball league.
- 21:13Speaker 1: And then you have incredible Magic Johnson, excuse me, Lebron
- 21:18Speaker 1: James himself. But when I look at you in comparison
- 21:21Speaker 1: and you being able to have an honest book because
- 21:23Speaker 1: the book was honest and they talking about your journey
- 21:26Speaker 1: as being first generation rich by Troy Hudson. Compare yourself
- 21:33Speaker 1: to how you were living then and how you living now,
- 21:36Speaker 1: and what would you have done as a bridge between
- 21:40Speaker 1: back then two thousand and three and what you're living
- 21:43Speaker 1: at right now.
- 21:46Speaker 2: I probably would have. And it's tough to say it
- 21:50Speaker 2: because you don't know how that would have turned out, right, Yes, sir,
- 21:54Speaker 2: my thing is having a family, Like I'm married with
- 21:57Speaker 2: three kids now, what I didn't have a wife or
- 22:00Speaker 2: any kids at the time that I was making money.
- 22:02Speaker 2: I think you know that that kind of shields you
- 22:07Speaker 2: from making certain mistakes that you would make when you
- 22:11Speaker 2: have no kids or or wife or family to take
- 22:14Speaker 2: care of. In that sense, I think if I would
- 22:17Speaker 2: have had something like that in place, then I probably
- 22:20Speaker 2: would have made, you know, better decisions, you know, I'd
- 22:23Speaker 2: have made better decisions, more prodent decisions, things that can
- 22:28Speaker 2: can create generational wealth, because at that point I would
- 22:31Speaker 2: have had a generation to be thinking about.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Right.
- 22:35Speaker 2: But when you're when you're alone and it's just you
- 22:37Speaker 2: and you're just young, and you're just running around and
- 22:40Speaker 2: that's the thing for athletes and some entertainers. We get
- 22:44Speaker 2: a front load of money at a young age, right,
- 22:47Speaker 2: and so by the time we learn the things to do,
- 22:52Speaker 2: it's it's almost too late right now.
- 22:54Speaker 1: When you talk about the importance of this book and
- 22:57Speaker 1: why you wrote this book is a definitely I feel
- 23:01Speaker 1: a lot of the information is relatable. It was relatable
- 23:03Speaker 1: to me, whether I am successful or not, because he
- 23:06Speaker 1: talks to you about, you know, pressure and how family
- 23:11Speaker 1: exchanges and reacts to you based on your success. Your
- 23:14Speaker 1: success would be a college graduate they were in maybe
- 23:17Speaker 1: the first college graduate from your family, you're going to
- 23:19Speaker 1: get a different reaction, you know, the first one who
- 23:22Speaker 1: might work at a what they consider a high profile
- 23:25Speaker 1: job that you're going to get a different reaction. But
- 23:27Speaker 1: no matter once you moved up a different economic ladder.
- 23:31Speaker 1: That was my biggest take from the book. You're going
- 23:34Speaker 1: to be treated differently. Is that correct?
- 23:36Speaker 2: Try, Oh, that's definitely correct. And that's the reason why
- 23:40Speaker 2: I wrote the book. And it's funny because you know,
- 23:44Speaker 2: I was going through so many pressures, so many relationships
- 23:47Speaker 2: family and friends that were going sour because of you
- 23:52Speaker 2: know me at certain points saying no I can't do this.
- 23:54Speaker 2: I can't you know, loan you this. I can't give
- 23:57Speaker 2: you this. You know that it started, It started putting pressure,
- 24:01Speaker 2: you know, on my life because you know, I really
- 24:03Speaker 2: want to see people be successful. I really don't want
- 24:06Speaker 2: to see people struggling and stuffering. But I'm only one person.
- 24:10Speaker 2: I can't save everyone. So with me having a heart
- 24:13Speaker 2: that I have, he used to wear on me. So
- 24:16Speaker 2: what I would start doing is I would start just writing,
- 24:19Speaker 2: jotting it down in my BlackBerry. I was just starting
- 24:21Speaker 2: to jot it down my BlackBerry and one of my
- 24:24Speaker 2: teammates who used to sit next to me, he was like, man,
- 24:27Speaker 2: what you writing there BlackBerry? And you're writing rhymes because
- 24:29Speaker 2: he knew I used to write rhymes, right. So I
- 24:31Speaker 2: was like, no, man, I'm going through it with my
- 24:34Speaker 2: you know, with a family member. And he like's real
- 24:38Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, man, can you believe it? Man?
- 24:40Speaker 2: He said this, He said that. He was like, brother,
- 24:43Speaker 2: I'm going through the same thing. And then so I
- 24:45Speaker 2: started talking to some of my other teammates and people
- 24:48Speaker 2: were going through the same thing, and I said, you
- 24:50Speaker 2: know what, this has to be documented. It has to
- 24:53Speaker 2: be written down because I want people to know that
- 24:56Speaker 2: they're not, you know, the only ones going through this.
- 24:59Speaker 2: And also I want to write the book so that
- 25:02Speaker 2: future family members, future athletes or entertainers, or just lawyers
- 25:06Speaker 2: and doctors who would be the first generation rich people
- 25:09Speaker 2: in their family. I want this to be kind of
- 25:11Speaker 2: a guide to say, you know what this is, what
- 25:14Speaker 2: this is, what this causes, this is what this person
- 25:16Speaker 2: may be going through, so that they won't subconsciously, you know,
- 25:20Speaker 2: put them through that. You know. So it's it's it's
- 25:23Speaker 2: one of those things that you know, I really want
- 25:25Speaker 2: to say people's family and fan relationships because it's it's
- 25:30Speaker 2: lonely at the top at certain times in your life
- 25:33Speaker 2: and when you're not, you know, getting along with family
- 25:37Speaker 2: members and friends the way you used to as a kid.
- 25:40Speaker 2: It's I consider the generational curse. You know, it's one
- 25:44Speaker 2: of those things.
- 25:46Speaker 1: How can we find this book?
- 25:49Speaker 2: You can go to Amazon dot com First Generation Rich
- 25:53Speaker 2: and under Troy E. Hudson. And then I also have
- 25:56Speaker 2: a website first the number one st G Rich dot
- 26:03Speaker 2: com and you can get it on there as well.
- 26:06Speaker 2: And you know, we'll have an address on there where
- 26:08Speaker 2: you can mail in copies and I'll sign them and
- 26:11Speaker 2: mail them back to you. But yeah, it's on the
- 26:14Speaker 2: Kendle Amazon Network.
- 26:17Speaker 1: Hey, my man t Hood, thank you for calling in
- 26:19Speaker 1: on my show money Making Conversation. Very very excellent conversation
- 26:24Speaker 1: about your life experiences that you've shared on my show.
- 26:27Speaker 1: And I wish you, wish you a tremendous amount of
- 26:29Speaker 1: success in the future and good luck. Thank you for
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