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John Chell | Former Chief of Department for the NYPD | 06-18-26 · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right, big to do's obviously here in the city
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  Speaker 1: with the parade, and some say three million, some say
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  Speaker 1: upwards of four million. Either way, in terms of sports,
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  Speaker 1: this will be our largest audience ever. We've had other parades.
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  Speaker 1: They say at least I got four million men on
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  Speaker 1: the Moon all that, who knows. But Yankees usually draw
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  Speaker 1: about two point three. But as I said, all week long,
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  Speaker 1: they split the city with the Mets, Giants, split the
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  Speaker 1: city with the Jets, Rangers, and Islanders. There's no splitting
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  Speaker 1: the city here. There are no Brooklyn net bands. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: it's in their best interest to move back to New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: And stop this nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: It's all New York nick bands. We make it four
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  Speaker 1: million today, So what does that mean for the city,
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  Speaker 1: For the police, We saw some unruly nickmans a lot
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  Speaker 1: during the NBA Finals.
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  Speaker 2: Small percentage, yes, small percentage.
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  Speaker 1: Most New Yorkers behaved themselves and celebrated the right way.
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  Speaker 1: But when it's ugly, it becomes a bigger story. And
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  Speaker 1: some of it I was told was was worse than
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  Speaker 1: what we even told by the media. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but my next cast is my dear friend and the
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  Speaker 1: former chief of Department An amazing cop in his day
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  Speaker 1: and now like a TV star, he's everywhere and that
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  Speaker 1: is John Shell.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, rock star. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Say? How are you?
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  Speaker 4: I was taught by the best, and you're the best.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just following the lead.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going, well, thank.
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  Speaker 2: You, you're great.
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  Speaker 1: Look who's talking? Thank you for that. On a serious note, though,
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  Speaker 1: this is a big day. You were with the force
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  Speaker 1: for over thirty years. You've seen ticker tape parades, not
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  Speaker 1: as big as this, but you've seen them. You've seen
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  Speaker 1: rallies in the city, big holidays in the city. What
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  Speaker 1: is this going to look like from a police standpoint
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  Speaker 1: all day?
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  Speaker 4: Well, this is going to be mess. If you just
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  Speaker 4: talked about the potential crowds are going to be coming in,
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  Speaker 4: and most of the crowds you'd like to think of
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  Speaker 4: coming to this to.
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  Speaker 3: Really celebrate, but no doubt about it, there will.
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  Speaker 4: Be an element of criminal criminals coming here, whether it
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  Speaker 4: be individuals or wolf packs if you will, they'll they
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  Speaker 4: will be around. But in terms of what the NYP
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  Speaker 4: post is that they are going to take are mirroring
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  Speaker 4: New Year's Eve, and they're saying it's gonna be bigger
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  Speaker 4: than YS Eve In terms of deployment of police officers,
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  Speaker 4: they're respecting the deploy about over ten thousands New York
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  Speaker 4: City Police officers.
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  Speaker 3: On that route. They're gonna pull out every piece of
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  Speaker 3: app raatus they have.
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  Speaker 4: They gotta cover transit, they gotta cover the sky drones, helicopters.
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  Speaker 4: They got an intelligence bureau, local and federal partners.
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  Speaker 3: This is massive.
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  Speaker 4: And the fact that they're treating like New Year's.
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  Speaker 3: Eve, So what does New Year's Eve do.
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  Speaker 4: There'll be twenty three entry points. You'll be wanded in,
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  Speaker 4: You'll be put into a pen where you cannot leave
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  Speaker 4: under no circumstances are they going to allow anyone on that
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  Speaker 4: parade route. Just like just like New Year's Eve. They'll
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  Speaker 4: be screening and wanting for weapons. You basically can't bring
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  Speaker 4: anything into those pens, chairs, bags, umbrellas, anything like that
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  Speaker 4: will be forgetten forbidden. Now, one disadvantage, you know, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's not a really spread.
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  Speaker 3: Out area board away. It's tight side streets. That's a
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  Speaker 3: big challenge fan YPD.
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  Speaker 4: The other advantage is it is linear, right, so you
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  Speaker 4: can kind of just straight line it from from Battery
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  Speaker 4: Park on the Canal Street from river to river. That's
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  Speaker 4: that's that's ground zero. But this is gonna be huge,
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  Speaker 4: and you just don't know the crowds in are coming.
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  Speaker 4: You just don't know how many people are gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Be here, and that's the scary part.
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  Speaker 4: It's a big Endevait, and I hope everything go as well.
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  Speaker 1: So last week, you know, you were all over Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: and I follow you on Twitter, John Shall, because you're entertaining,
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  Speaker 1: but you're smart, and I care about police work. And
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  Speaker 1: I do keep in touch more than people know with
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  Speaker 1: Jessica Tish because I know Mom Downey. People don't like
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  Speaker 1: that tough, and you know we have good conversations, and
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  Speaker 1: you know she's not in the show much anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a whole other story.
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  Speaker 1: But you were on there and you were pretty critical
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  Speaker 1: of the mayor, not Tish. I know Dolan went after
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  Speaker 1: the mayor and Tish on w up ND with Craig Carton,
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  Speaker 1: but of the mayor. And I kept saying all week
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  Speaker 1: last week that part of the reason why we had
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  Speaker 1: these issues was because the city takes on the personality
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  Speaker 1: of its leadership the mayor, right Woody Giuliani.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing ever happened.
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  Speaker 1: Why because he was a solid guy. This guy loves chaos.
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  Speaker 1: This guy loves anarchy. This guy doesn't believe in authority
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  Speaker 1: or police and a lot of these people in the streets.
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  Speaker 2: Are taking on his personality. Is that a bear statement?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 4: This Mayor is really at this point said he's the
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  Speaker 4: performer of TikTok Mayor. All he does is videos about
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  Speaker 4: everything he does. He doesn't have the first clue nor
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  Speaker 4: his team about public safety and how to administer that.
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  Speaker 4: And to your point, people see him dancing around having fun.
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  Speaker 3: Say, I'll go out and act the fool and I'll
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  Speaker 3: come down to Maniscrect Garden.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I'll burn school buses, I'll put a kid in Nkoma,
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  Speaker 4: I'll crush it, I'll crush a cam. I'll like gunshots
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  Speaker 4: off a Times Square.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's well good.
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  Speaker 4: De may is having fun, So let's have fun.
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  Speaker 3: Where are the guardrails?
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  Speaker 4: Thank god, he's got Commission and Tish and that team
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  Speaker 4: up there and.
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  Speaker 3: The best cops in the world to try to do
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  Speaker 3: the best.
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  Speaker 4: They can to mitigate the nonsense that went on ato
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  Speaker 4: the nick game, and today hopefully they can.
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  Speaker 3: Do the same.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think, John, a couple more minutes, We'll
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  Speaker 1: let you run. You're so good. Why do you think
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  Speaker 1: there is so much criticism in and around Jessica? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the truth is, if she's not there and he puts
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  Speaker 1: in his own person, could you imagine the bedlam if
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  Speaker 1: you thought last.
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  Speaker 2: Week was rough in the city, if you know it
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  Speaker 2: really was.
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  Speaker 1: And again, it was a small percentage that looked very ugly,
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  Speaker 1: but it could have been a heck of a lot worse,
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  Speaker 1: and it would have been worse if not for Tish.
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  Speaker 1: Why do so many people, including I hate to say,
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  Speaker 1: some of your former brothers and sisters, take hert a
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  Speaker 1: task at every opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: It's foolish this okay. First of all, Jessica Tiss is
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  Speaker 4: smarter than.
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  Speaker 3: All of the whole mind.
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  Speaker 4: She's got a great tam to combat crime and disorder.
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  Speaker 4: Democrats socials want crime and disorder to the extent that
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  Speaker 4: they don't want to hold it be accountable. No one's
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  Speaker 4: a big guy, No one belongs in jail.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they're just having fun.
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  Speaker 4: And he can't control the commissioner because he needs a Now,
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  Speaker 4: the next person he brings in, whoever that might be,
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  Speaker 4: when that might be, is going to be a complete
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  Speaker 4: socialist style of policing. And when you mix socialism but
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  Speaker 4: public safety. Do you know what you get? You get
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  Speaker 4: school buses burning, that's.
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  Speaker 3: What you get.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do. So how frustrating is it? John?
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  Speaker 1: Again, this is the former chief of Department, Great Copper
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  Speaker 1: over three decades, My good buddy John Shall.
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  Speaker 2: For the cops, you know, one of the.
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  Speaker 1: Issues with what happened outside of the Garden and Bryant
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  Speaker 1: Park last week was that beginning about busses and all
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  Speaker 1: those types of things. That's bad enough, but police officers
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  Speaker 1: came on. There were every single night a police officer
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  Speaker 1: was either punched, in fact, they were punched spit in
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  Speaker 1: their faces. The officers became the bullseye, the target of
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  Speaker 1: some of these rowdy animals, and the officers because you
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  Speaker 1: have no immunity and nobody in the city's going to
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  Speaker 1: back you outside a tish and people like me, so
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  Speaker 1: they can't do anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: How frustrating is that?
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  Speaker 4: For the police, It's extremely frustrating because you have to
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  Speaker 4: be proactive.
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  Speaker 3: You have to be.
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  Speaker 4: Aggressive at times. Policing is a contact sport and sometimes
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  Speaker 4: it gets ugly.
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  Speaker 3: You punch being the phase of cop. I'm punching you
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  Speaker 3: back twice.
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  Speaker 4: I'm putting a handcuffs on it. But if you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have srepidation about that, you can get yourself hurt. And look,
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  Speaker 4: let's be real, the.
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  Speaker 3: Prosecution rates for cops.
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  Speaker 4: Being assaulted in this city are abysmal. So the bad
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  Speaker 4: guys talk like, yeah, I punch cop, and I punch
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  Speaker 4: a cop in the face.
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  Speaker 3: It happens.
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  Speaker 4: Yet, Oh not that I'm gonna go pick up garbage
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  Speaker 4: like five hours in a roadway. That's that consequent Yeah, wow,
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  Speaker 4: and that's why it's happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, and they do talk and all right.
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  Speaker 1: So on the final thirty seconds, John with some of
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  Speaker 1: the negativity during this conversation, which is warranted. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: put three to four million people in Lower Manhattan. Who
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  Speaker 1: knows what can happen. I still feel like it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a great day. I think Jessica and the NYPD,
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  Speaker 1: your former brothers and sisters will do a good job. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not be some issues, but I think in terms of numbers,
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  Speaker 1: very very small to the amount of people celebrating and
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  Speaker 1: enjoying themselves. So for me, I believe today there's many people,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people down there now as we speak.
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  Speaker 1: It will just get bigger throughout the day. But I
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  Speaker 1: do believe it'll be a big win for New York City.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think, well, when you when you see
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  Speaker 4: your father and son, a little kid with his Nick
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  Speaker 4: jersey waving at Jaylen Brunson and people cheering, That's what.
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  Speaker 3: New York City is all about.
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  Speaker 4: There will be some hooligans down there.
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  Speaker 3: Just identify them, isolate.
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  Speaker 4: Them, contain them, and when they step out of line,
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  Speaker 4: knocked their Teethan in the.
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  Speaker 1: Message this is why I love you, John Shell. I
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  Speaker 1: swear to God I wunny do. I miss you as
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  Speaker 1: a cop and I love you as a commentator. So
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  Speaker 1: thank you for hopping on this very very important day
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  Speaker 1: for all of us in New York City and continued success.
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  Speaker 2: My man, John Shell, You're great. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: And thanks It's gonna be a great great thanks.
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  Speaker 2: I think so too.
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  Speaker 1: There he is former Cheap Up Department, My great buddy,
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  Speaker 1: great cop John Shell, and the parade edition. The Nikoboker
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  Speaker 1: celebration on this Thursday morning continues on SID and Friends
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