Latest / UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT / Interview with a Fully Conscious UFO Contact Part Six: FLIGHT SCHOOL!

Transcript

Interview with a Fully Conscious UFO Contact Part Six: FLIGHT SCHOOL! · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. And as
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: you can see, I've got a very special episode today
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: where we're doing another interview with Dolly Safran, the subject
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: of my book, Symmetry, A True UFO Adventure. We've already
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: done a number of really interesting interviews, five in fact,
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: where we've talked about how her experiences began as a
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: little girl in Florida in the Everglades, where she had
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of contact moving all the way up to
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: age 14, where she had her first fully conscious onboard experience.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: And we've talked about the different types of ETs she's seen,
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: the photographic evidence she's gotten, some of the places, the
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: worlds that she's visited. We've covered quite a bit in
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: these previous five interviews, but this is number six, and
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: I call this one, Interview with a Fully Conscious UFO Contactee,
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: Part Six, Flight School. That's right. We're going to be
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: talking about how Dolly was given the opportunity to learn
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: how to fly these craft and her experiences with being
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: tested with that, trained with that, learning how to do
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: it the first time, some of the many adventures she's
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: had with this. As you may know, if you've looked
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: into some of my other YouTube episodes or read some
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: of my books, this is not unique. People are taught
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: how to fly these craft, but Dolly's experiences with this
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: are really extensive. Certainly the most extensive and detailed that
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: I've ever had the opportunity to hear about. So we're
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: just going to do a deep dive into that. And
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: we're going to learn some new stuff that's not in
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: the book because that always happens every time I talk
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: to you, Dolly. So first of all, let me just
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: introduce you. This is Dolly Safran. Thanks so much for
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: coming on to the show again.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: the opportunity.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: Hey, honor is mine. I'm excited, Dolly, because, yeah, your
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: experiences with all of this are so amazing. And I
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: have heard it before, but not to the detail that
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: you've provided. So I thought we would just start with,
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: you know, your experience at age 14, 1973, I think
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: it was. And they asked you, you know, how do
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: you want to work with us? Is there anything you're
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: particularly interested in? And you said, yes, I would love
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: to learn how to fly these craft. Not really even
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: expecting that they would say yes. So I thought we'd
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: just start there and have you describe what that was
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: like when they said yes and how they tested you.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: Because we did go into a little bit in the book.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: It wasn't just, yes, sit in the seat and let's
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: do it. It was a whole involved process of learning.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: First of all, seeing if you were even qualified, I guess,
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: or had the capability to do it. So, yeah, how
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: did that unfold?
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: After that initial session with them, they gave me about
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: two weeks to prepare myself because it wasn't going to
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: be an ordinary contact. I was going to be physically
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: checked out, physically and mentally. And so the next time
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: I was on board, I was given– several physicals and
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: mental checkups. And they were looking basically at the neurology
• 3:52
  Speaker 2: of my brain, whether my synapse were in good condition.
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: And if I was wired well to my own body,
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: my own body plays a significant role in this, how
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: I react to things, what my reflexes are capable of
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: doing and how much I'm capable of handling in an
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: experience that could potentially be critical. and how I would
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: react to that. My body, they wanted to know that
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: I was physically fit enough to endure what I was
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: about to learn. And they checked everything on my heart,
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: my lungs, my muscles, my everything, all of it. This
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: took them about two, three weeks. Oh, wow. At the
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: end of that, I was brought back up and sat
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: down and it was explained to me that I didn't
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: meet their standards. And then the next set of tests
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: were basically psychic. After that, they needed to know how
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: well developed I was, how much they were going to
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: be investing in, teaching me to employ, fully employ my
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: abilities and work with another psychically to link up with
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: and whether I was compatible with this entity or not.
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: And that would have been Talara. Talara being the ship.
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: It's an actual entity, yes.
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: And so that took about a month. And that was
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: very extensive work that they did with me.
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: Before we move beyond that, can we dive a little
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: deeper into that? Because here's a question I have. They're
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: talking to you psychically, telepathically the whole time. There's a
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: lot of that sort of stuff going on when you're
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: on board. Would you say your abilities are... More in
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: tune or more, how would I put it, enhanced? When
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: you're on craft as opposed to being here on earth,
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: are you activating it more? Are you using it more?
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: Not an enhancement as much as it is that I
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: am psychic. I can hear them and they pretty much
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: take over the conversation. They're psychically coming on to me
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: and hearing what I have to say. I'm not summarily
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: broadcasting fully to them yet. And they wanted to see
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: how well I was able to employ myself, my own abilities,
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: so that they heard me on my own. And there
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: was a little bit of work that I had to
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: do with that. I was already broadcasting so that they
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: could hear me, but it wasn't as quick or the
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: communication level has to be even. In other words, I
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: had to learn language. I had to learn custom. I
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: had to learn how they react to things. It's a
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: mutual two-way street. And that I had to become one
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: in communion with them. And that took a little bit
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: of work. That was one of the first things that
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: they taught me in my training was to bring that
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: level of my understanding them up. And once I reached
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: that and I was comfortable with them, then the next
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: phase of training began. And that would be linking with Talata.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: When I, okay. Linking with Talata required my ability to
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: remote view. There's a second level of remote viewing that
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: most people don't realize that they're capable of doing. And
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: that is, I'm able to remote view to a source,
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: a space, and then join with Talata in that space.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: It's an electromagnetic field. And we literally allow ourselves to
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: enjoy mentally. And I become him and he becomes me.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: And even though my body is autonomously still operating on
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: its own, me, I'm enjoined with him. And what happens
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: to me when that happens is I feel what he feels.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: I see what he sees. And when he's in craft,
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: in dwelling in craft with me that way, I become
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: the craft with him. I can feel it breathe. I
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: can feel it move. I can feel what's outside of it.
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: My eyesight no longer operates independently through my own eyes.
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: I see through his eyes and the craft system's eyes.
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: I feel with the system, all of it. That's why
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: the craft is basically an organic entity itself because it
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: has to neurologically join up with the entity operated just
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: like I'm enjoying my body and my brain to operate
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: this entity here, my physical being. I become that with
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: him on craft.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: This makes sense to me because this is exactly what Julia,
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: that's a pseudonym, told me. Gosh, I think I wrote
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: about her book in or her story in my book, Wondrous,
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: there was a chapter in there about her, which was
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: called A Gray Alien Named Sen. And she said when
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: she hooked up telepathically with him, he was in his
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: ship and she could see through his eyes everything he experienced,
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: she experienced, and vice versa. And that's when he started
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: doing all these maneuvers.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: And she said she could see it.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: It was like she was actually there through his eyes.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: So that would be an advanced form of remote viewing,
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: I guess, or linking up.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: Linking, yes. Remote to link, yes. And once I achieved that,
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: the next phase of my training was understanding how the
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: craft itself is built and works and operates. What's going
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: on on that craft physically as well as mentally and
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: how it operates. And I had to learn a lot
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: of math. I had to learn a lot of physics.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: I had to learn what the type of fusion that
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: they were using to use this element that they burned
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: to create a Graviton Wave and once I understood that
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: that's part of what's happening to me while I'm in
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: with Talata is I can feel that all working. Talata
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: has total control over the energy of the craft. I
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: have control over where we're going and directional and I
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: help open light gates. It takes the two of us
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: together to open a light gate. So the next thing
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: I learned after that was the craft itself and how
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: it operates. And then once we got that, I was
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: on board with him and I learned the basics of
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: movement in the craft. I had to learn direction and
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: I had to learn speeds, how to maneuver, how I
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: physically was enjoined in this craft and it became an
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: extension of my mental body And I was helping to
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: steer it with my own mind. I was helping to
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: slow it down or lower it or raise it or
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: go skiff. I was learning what it felt like to
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: have electromagnetic fields around me and the fields that were
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: surrounding me in union with the fields that we were encountering.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: When we're inside in a magnetosphere on a planet, the
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: electromagnetic guidelines or field lines of that planet, how they are,
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: and they're all a little bit different Um, yeah, yeah.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: They're not all exactly the same, uh, but you feel them,
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: you see them. And I learned to see, um, um, uh,
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: it's almost like a heads up display, but it's a
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: lot of showing me in real time, the lines themselves.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: I can see the energy of them through his eyes
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: because he's more advanced than I am. He absolutely sees
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: them and, uh, reacting to them. Uh, they move suddenly
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: they shift suddenly. They rise or lower suddenly. This is
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: not a fixed system inside this magnetosphere with these guidelines there.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: It's like being on the ocean in a boat. You
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: have to learn to pilot with the movement of these
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: lines and negative or positive. Storms can change it. The
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: sun itself can cause problems. The sun can shoot off
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: a flare or incoming coronal winds can shift them. It's
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: like being in an entire environment that you here don't
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: see here or or smell, but we do on craft
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: this way because they're that advanced and I'm working with that.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked a little bit about this in the
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: book where you actually went to their planet and learned
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: with some other pilots as well.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: In a classroom environment where they went over and over
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: and over.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: Different scenarios.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Different ways, magnetic fields and gravitational lines and all that
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: stuff works.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: There's a corollary to this. Pilots here who are surfing
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: the air, you know, they're flying on top of the
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: air in a fixed wing vehicle. It's not the same
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: as an electromagnetic environment that I'm in, but there is
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: an electromagnetic component to a pilot's life in the seat
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: while they're flying this planet. They also have pockets of
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: dead air. They have turbulence, everything, and they have to
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: join up with that and their reflexes play 100% into that.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: They learn to feel things and see them and know
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: when things are coming in and encompassing them. And so
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: there are tactics, flight tactics. So I learned with these students,
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: when this is happening, you do this. So when this
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: is happening, you drop. Or when you're losing a guideline,
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: you go straight up, you get out of there. You
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: have to have the reflexes to do that. Sometimes people
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: see UFOs dancing around in the sky and they're like,
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: what the hell is going on? That's what's going on.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: They've got a lot happening to them while they're up there.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: And if you see them dancing or doing weird things,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: they're not as much putting on a show to you
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: as that they're surfing this and they're having to stay,
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: So this explains this motion that we see. Yes.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: It's all around us. Yes.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: The pendulum movement as well or falling.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: We feel, yeah, there's some to that. There is a,
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: the earth itself heaves. and breathes itself, and it can
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: shoot up electromagnetic energy from its core, and it'll heave out,
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: and you can feel it, or it'll drop. You can
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: feel that as well. It's amazing. It's very much like
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: being on the ocean, very much, or in the air,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: flying a regular airplane.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you made an interesting point to me once
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: that said we're not actually flying in the traditional sense.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: They don't call it flying. Is that right?
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: It's skiffing.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Skiff.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: It's not skimming the ocean. We skiff magnetic energy.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: OK, before we go on anymore, I wondered if you
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: could describe a little bit about the seat you sit in.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Is that seat normally designed for greys and how does
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: it fit you? I mean, you drew it. I'll picture it.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Talata can alter the seat to fit anybody who sits
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: in it. Tall, short, heavy, whatever. And what I drew
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: is how I fit the seat, what it looks like
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: for me. The first time I ever sat down, when
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: it was still for Gray, and he hadn't changed it yet,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: and they realized, oh, you got to fix the chair
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: for her. It was kind of funny. I was like,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think this is going to work. I have
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: two pads under my feet, and they are to stop
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: me from electromagnetically charging. It's like a Faraday cage under
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: my feet. I have a field around me, and this
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: is a very big craft. And the smaller craft, we
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: almost have a real Faraday cage about us. It's a field,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: and it protects us from being electrocuted. That means death.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: If you're electrocuted, you would die. And so it stops
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: me from doing that. I also wear nothing that will charge. Nothing.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: The suit that I wear protects me. And my hair
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: is let down like this. It's pulled back very tightly.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: There's a gel that I put in it that helps
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: not conduct electricity or static over me. And it's either
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: braided or ponytail.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: They give you a gel kind of thing?
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: That's a gel. It's a type of gel. It washes
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: out easy, but it protects me from charging.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Is my question, they give you an actual gel to
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: put in? Oh, wow. So they give you an actual
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: flight suit? That's very interesting. All right. So is the
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: seat comfortable? Very.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I mold into it and it will adjust to me
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: as I'm flying. Like if I was to drop suddenly
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: and we come back down, I'm held in it somehow.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: It keeps me connected to it. So I don't break
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: contact with it because to do that would shoot me
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: with electricity, you would believe. So the seat holds on
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: to me. It doesn't let me go. It's so comfortable
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: that if I have a backache one day, it'll puff
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: up behind my lumbar spine and give me a little
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: lumbar support. The craft knows, I mean, once you're connecting
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: mentally up with it, it feels what I feel anyway.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: So it's correcting for me all the time. It's a
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: very good ride. It also helps my circulation. I don't get,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you know, if you sit that hard and flat on
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: something for a long time, you can develop problems in
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: your circulation to your legs. And it's engaged to help
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: keep my blood flow to my legs going. You know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I have good circulation in the chair.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: This reminds me of a portion of Travis Walton's experience
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: where he actually, you know, left the, I guess you
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: would call it the exam room, went down the corridor,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: turned one direction or another, I think it was right,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: into this other little room, which as he got to
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the center became transparent all around. He saw these stars,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and there was a chair. And he sat down in it,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and there were these little knobs and buttons, and he
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: started pressing them, and the stars were moving around. I'm wondering,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: are there any buttons or knobs on the seat that
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you were in?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: It would have presented itself to him by the pilot
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: as something that he was familiar with. help him understand
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: to try it. In other words, he wasn't mentally connecting
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: with the craft per se, but the craft gave him
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to do something that felt familiar to him,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: to teach him that he could do these things, look out, blah, blah,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. When human beings go on board
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: and they see things like that, it's basically the craft
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: accommodating them. It's not necessary for the craft to operate
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: that way. It doesn't really use them. But for humans...
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I wonder.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: About that because there's variation there. Because when you went
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: on at age 14 and you actually got to fly
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that first time, they gave you a little sort of
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: joystick device or a little wand?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: It's a wand. It's about that long. And it's about
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: that wide. And it tapers down. And when you touch it,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you can feel it. It kind of vibrates in your
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: hand a little bit. And it connects to my consciousness
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: with Talata so that I could join with him without
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: knowing how. And it was really cool.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: All right. So after going through all this learning and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: then sort of testing, you actually got to sit down
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: next to, was it the AI grays?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, an AI gray. And I had a tall gray
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: with me who was a pilot also. And I began
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the process of actually learning how to employ what I
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: had learned. It's like becoming a, you know, you're going
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: to become a surgeon. You have to get in there.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: You know, it's all hand-eye motor coordination, linking up mentally
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to physical use, mental use to what you've just learned
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: and to employ it often over and over and over
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: until it becomes a habit, not even thinking about it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: You just do it without even thinking now. And it
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: took a while to do that. So there's two years
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: of that type of training.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: There's kind of two different things going on here when
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you fly a craft, right? There's what I guess you
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: would call interplanetary travel.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And then outside the magnetosphere of planets.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: All right. So is that differentiated from the beginning? Were
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you learning both? I had to.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Learn both to operate because we mostly, when we travel,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: we locate between places that we're going. When we come in,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: we're stellar, interstellar. We're very close to a planet, we're
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: way back out, and then we fly in. And then
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: you have to transition into their magnetosphere and go into
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: their atmosphere. It takes a little bit of doing how
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: to do that because we're changing the way the ship
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: is operating. We're going from a nuclear needed energy source
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to battery. Once we come in a magnetosphere, we change
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: over to batteries because it's too hot. You can take
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: what we are driving with and it's too hot. We're
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: talking over 7,000 degrees outside the craft alone. We're in
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a and it's so bright you couldn't look at any
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: burning crop here.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Alright, so are you hearing any noise when this is
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: all going on?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Here outside the ship with a lot of so yes,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I can hear density. In other words, we don't really fly.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: We don't have a. We don't react to the air
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: mass that we're in. We do nothing, but I can hear.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: things operating around me that are coming in at us
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: on a frequency level that are electronic from this planet.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: It's incredible. This is a very chatty place. There's a
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: lot going on here and we can actually hear it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: This is coming off this planet, clicking, chirping, that kind
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: of thing. We hear TV sometimes. We hear all kinds
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: of things, music. It just depends on where we're at
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and what we're doing and what is going to allow
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: to come in unwise into the signals that I'm hearing.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Okay. So when you're flying over a planet, do you
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: have like displays that show like the magnetic fields or,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Little temperatures.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Mental heads up display that comes down before me mentally
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that a lot is projecting to me. And I can
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: see every satellite in the sky coming down here. I
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: can see debris. see birds flying in your atmosphere. I
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: can see whales swimming in the sea. There are different
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: levels of density that I'm looking at, and we avoid
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: coming in contact with those as we fly. It's a very,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: very populated place here, and we have to be careful
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: how we come through. We're not in the business of
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: destroying technology that belongs to somebody else. So it's a
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: concentrated effort come down safely. That's another reason you see
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: them zigzagging. Many reasons why they do it, because they're
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: avoiding objects as they come in.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. So did a lot of your training take
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: place here in Earth's atmosphere or other places as well?
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, I got good at it. I was definitely being
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: trained here as well, yes.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you're sitting next to these grays, I guess.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: What did you say, medium gray and AI grays?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Two AI grays and a tall gray.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: All right. But they're the ones who are actually in
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the pilot seat at this point. And you're just linking
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: up with them.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: At the beginning, once I became proficient at flying, I had,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Talata had the ability to stop me from doing something stupid.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: He can't control the craft that well. And so they
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: allowed me a seat and just watched me, watched me
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: through the whole thing. I have many mistakes during my training.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I have learned the hard way a few times. Not
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to the point that I crashed or caused anybody any problems, but, yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I've had a few close calls. They taught me a
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: great deal. Don't do that again.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Learn.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Pay attention. Don't lose focus. I've been accused of being
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: a very serious person all the time, and it's the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: training that I've had. I can be very, very single-mindedly.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I won't let you along with it, and that's my
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: training at work. I can't help myself. That's the way
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I am. It was tough to me.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: So, you know, this went on from age 14 up
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: to age 19 before you actually got to sit down
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and do it yourself.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: My own. That's correct.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Yes. Can you describe that first time and what it
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: was like? Because you said there's an energy ball. People
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: talk about the little purse that you see in the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Anunnaki carrying.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: It was part of my training.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And all that. So it's all connected to that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: The source where I connect with Tlaloc. It's an electromagnetic,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: you know, decahedron, and it expands. It's about this big,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: smaller than a baseball. And it looks metal. Although I'm
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: not positive 100% what kind of metals are employed in it,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: but it's electromagnetic. It has a power source in it,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: a seed. And when I initialize it, I have a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: input in my hand turn on and it's a life.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: When you see those hair glyphs and you see the
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: watch with the daisy in it, you know, or whatever
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: it is that God, that's their key. Oh, mine was implanted.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Looks stupid walking around with a watch like that all
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the time. So mine was implanted in my hand. They
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: decided it was better off in my hand. Do is
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: have a purse like the ones that you see on
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the pilot. And I open my purse. It doesn't exactly
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: look like that, but it's a beautiful representation of it.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Mine's a little bit more basic than that. And I
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: open it up, and I take the ball out with
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: my hand, this hand. And while it's in my hand,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I make the connection to it. And I hold it
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: across my chest, chin low, and there's an arm that
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: comes up on the other side with an electromagnetic hook.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: And once I initialize the ball, it It leaves my
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: hand on it, it magnetically jumps out, and then it
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: expands and expands, and then it'll guide up to that
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: hook to hold it. It's about this far from the
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: hook at all times, but it's there. And it's a space,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: an electromagnetic field space, where I now remote view to it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I go into it. I put my consciousness into that ball.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: It's already there waiting for me. And that's how we
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: fly outside the magnetosphere. I don't need it inside. in
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: our space here, but I need it outside, especially to
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: light gate. That is a magnifier of energy and to
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: use it together to light gate to different places.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: All right. So can you describe more about what a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: light gate is? Cause you know, people use terms like
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: wormholes and portals. And that's, I think in essence, what
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: they're trying to describe is more what you're talking about.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Light gate. You know, Frequencies, they're.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Not within humans' sound. In fact, you can't perceive them.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: They're so high up in the frequency down core, so
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: low that you couldn't even know how to use them.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: They're unknown to humanity because A, you're not using your abilities.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: You can't see or hear them. That's number one. And
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: then the second one is you have to be very,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: very advanced in know what it sounds like, and to
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: generate it in your own brain. It took me a
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: long time to learn how to do that. Talata brought
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: me through it first. It is a sound that I
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: couldn't even describe to you. It is a frequency that
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: is unbelievable. And it took me probably a year or
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: more to get that correct, exactly correct, because it's a
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: very specific frequency that we generate together, and it literally
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: opens a dimensional grid. opening between dimensions. And then we gauge,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I know the coordinates. I'm going to go through this
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: with this to wherever it is we're going. And I
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: employ that ability as well. I'm the gatekeeper and the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: gate shutter. I can open the gate with Tolada and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: then once we're on the other side of it, I
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: let go and it shuts. I'm in a long line
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: of other craft and we're all going through one together.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: We all employ our abilities together because the gate has
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: to be much bigger. And the last person through shuts
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: the gate. We're trained to do that as well. It's
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: very fast. It's milliseconds through. We hold our breath when
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: we get there because there is no air. We become
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: interdimensional once we employ it. We are already out of
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: this dimension as we create this thing. We're interdimensional as well.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: We're non-dimensional. We're outside of everything once we get through.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: And then wherever we end up, we move ourselves back
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: because we're always in the third dimension when we travel.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: We get to where we're going. Everywhere I go in
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: this universe is in the third dimension.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: All right. So here, let me just see if I
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: have this correct. So basically, the light gate is a
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: process of generating huge amounts of electricity. To a point
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that it opens up into.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: A third dimension?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, so is this going into like the fourth or
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: fifth or sixth or is this beyond that?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Through the fifth dimension. That's why Talat is so substantially
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: aware for us and why they help us. It's their
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: technology that I learned in this dimension who was able
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: to learn it the fifth dimensional frequency that we use
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and we go right through to it. It's very fast
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: and it's very, been taken to the fifth dimension like
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: a handful of times in my life. And the first
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: time I went to it, it had to hold me
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: up because I see everything in that dimension. You see
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: everything in that dimension. I can see through to the
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: third dimension from the fifth dimension in ways you can't
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: even explain. It made me, it's like the first experience
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: on craft. I wanted to puke. He was stopping me.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: And I only stayed there for about three minutes. That's
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: all I could take. And they brought me back out.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: He gave me an opportunity a few times after that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: to train to go into it because they felt like
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: if I did that, I would take the jump through
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the light gate much better than I did. i first
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: started experiencing really really weird symptoms of going through that
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: light gate i would puke i'd get dizzy i almost
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: want to pass out and they had to get me
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: past it so they were bringing me into fifth dimension
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: to get me used to what it's like well.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: That's what i was going to say so what exactly
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: does it feel like when you you know because you're
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: there in the craft and it's all third dimensional but
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: then the gate opens up and you go through it
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and you come back out what does that feel like
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: does it.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Feel like you lose all cohesion with your physical form
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: it It lights up. My molecules, like, you know, you
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: look at your hand, you know it's there, you see it,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: but it's no longer physical. You become light. Wow.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: So you can travel any distance through a light gate?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, we can go any distance. One of the things
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I had to learn was coordinates, right? where i am
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: i have an eidetic memory and one of my talents
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: in life is that i remember everywhere i've ever gone
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: i never get.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Lost and.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Employ that and learning where i'm going go somewhere i
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: have to have already been there to know where it
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: is so part of the training is another or pilot
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: takes you there teaches you where that is and you
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: jump with them a couple times and then you got
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: it and it's in your mind and you know This
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: is critical. Without the ability to do that, you can't
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: pilot a craft. It made me learn everywhere I go.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I'm absolutely top where they are. I can go at
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: any time.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: This just underlies how truly integrated travel and these crafts themselves,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: technologically speaking, are with psychic abilities and Other dimensions, I guess,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: is the way of putting it. So the craft themselves
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: are partly, I think you mentioned this once, if I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: remember correctly, partly built in other dimensional ways.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Especially the element comes from the fifth dimension. It's created there.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It's very specific and it can't be created in our dimension.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't exist here. And they're trying to make it
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: now and they're never going to make it. It's too hard.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: to be in that dimension and then they ship it
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: in with the craft at that time.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Okay so another point I kind of wanted to go
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: over was when science fiction it's all about faster than
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: light travel and if you know your science and know
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: your physics it's absolutely really impossible to go speed of
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: light because the faster you go the more your mass
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: increases So these.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Guys are traveling. Part of the seams, yes.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: So you're not traveling at the speed of light by
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: any means, right?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going through a light gate that takes a millisecond
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: to get me from one space to another. It's described here.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I find it represented as folding space. We're going away
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: from here to here. It's folding space. And you can
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: get the gate really close this way. go through, so
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: you've gone this many miles in a millisecond, and you
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: generate the light. The light already knows it's there. It's
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: all part of everything, and you land there.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: That's what I can describe that. What I'd really like
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to do is read a short quote to you from
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: this gentleman I interviewed. I'm using a pseudonym. His name
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: is Carter. I have not publicly revealed his story yet.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It's coming in a forthcoming book. But he started talking
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: about this experience he had. It actually was on Hawaii
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: where he was with his wife off-grid in a cabin.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: And the whole cabin filled with white light. Twice, actually.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: They woke up sometime later. I think having had missing time.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: He had a mark on his left arm. She had
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: one on her right. Both in the same spot. And she...
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: He's like, did you have any memories of what happened?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: She's like, well, yeah, I remember being in this weird
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: craft and I think I saw a gray and so forth.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: And he remembered something really interesting as well. And this
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: is what I'd like to quote. It's just about a
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: minute long, but it reminds me, Dolly, so much of
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: how you described becoming one with a craft and how
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: they're flown psychically. Because that's what it sounds like happened
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to him. And I'll just quote him here as he says.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: This whole thing just unfolded in my head. I'm hoping
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you can comment on this. This whole thing just unfolded
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: in my head. I was like almost a specialist kind
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: of pilot. And I, my consciousness, had been put into
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: this UFO type of machine. My consciousness. This machine was
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: so sophisticated. It was like a living nervous system that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: needs a living consciousness to operate it. Just like our
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: physical bodies. I was test piloting some kind of new system.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: It was like I was immersed in it. I was inside.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I was the consciousness inside the living wiring of this thing.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: It was very complex. As complex as the body, just
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: look at all the systems in the body and the
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: layers of complexity for digestion, circulation, and so forth. It
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: was like that, but when I think of it, it
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: was like it was all golden. It was like everything
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: was made of gold filaments. Everything was golden and clean
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: and super precise and yet living. It had a living
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: dynamic to it. It was super responsive to your consciousness,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: whatever I was thinking. So yeah, he had the feeling
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: like he was learning how to pilot these craft. And
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: how he described it reminded me so much of what
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you're saying. It's not only like a living system, but
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: you're psychically joined to it to a degree where you
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: almost lose your own Well, not lose, but join with
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the awareness of the craft. So does that sound familiar
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: to you, what he's saying?
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes. Deadline, yes.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: So what do you think about his description of it
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: being like all gold filaments and super clean and precise?
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: He's precise, that's right. Everything lights up and the golden
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: color is much the perception you get of it, it's golden.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: That's very cool. So you did this the first time.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: How did you feel afterwards?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Exhausted. It took it out of me. I was tired.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, I was tired. I realized that the
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: gravity I was doing in that moment was not something
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I was going to play. It was reality to me.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: And Like I said, the gravity of it was all-encompassing,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: and it sat me down emotionally and down for a
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: few days. I was immensely, I don't know how to
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: describe it. It just sort of hits you right through
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: your own chest, you know, right where you live. And
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I had to think, hopefully, that moment on when I
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: was doing, it compelled me not screw up after that.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: That's how serious it was. That's how emotional it was.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: That's how unbelievably cool it was. And it made me
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: realize that I'm this teeny, weeny girl. You know, and
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I was like, namaste, okay. You know, we're good.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. You're a teenager learning all this stuff. Well,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: you're 19, pretty much an adult, but still a teenager. Yeah.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: And there were other people you had learned with as well.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: You made an interesting comment that most of them were women.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Women's brains, female brain, let's put it correctly. The female
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: physiological mind is more flexibly what she's feeling and doing
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: in her body. It's the hormone access, the chemicals that
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: we produce, that sort of thing makes us physically quicker
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: than men are. That's only one aspect of it, though,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: because we are all consciousness. And outside of our bodies,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: our consciousness is capable of anything you are specifically doing.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: But your brain, how you are in this iteration, in
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: this life that you're living now, is tuned to that.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: And so when you're indwelling in the craft, you're thinking
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: with a female mindset. And the males are thinking with
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: male mindsets. It doesn't matter what I'm doing in this lifetime,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I'm still going to be a female. If I was
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: to be born again and I went to pilot again
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: and I was a male, I would be less likely
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: to get the seat because of that.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: But there are male pilots.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, because you can learn anything. If you have a
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: mind to do it, you can do anything. And it's
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: a fact. All right.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So after you learn how to do this and you're
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: comfortable to do it, you started doing more complex things
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: like flying with other people. Is that right? I mean,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: in terms of first a couple and then being part
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: of a fleet, right?
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, getting on board. There's many aspects of this. I mean,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: we're not just flying outside of a craft in our
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: own craft. We have to board other craft to travel
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: great distances sometimes or just need a break and we'll
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: go into a large craft to take a break. So
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: you have to learn how to get on the ship
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: with them. And if there's a lot of us doing it,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: there's a real learning curve there. You know, knock somebody down,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: you don't want your field to bother their field. You
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: want to think precisely in a certain way. When we're
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: coming down on this planet, we're dealing with what's in
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: the air here. And it's not just airplanes and jets.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: It's animals that are in the skies. It's a journey.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Did you ever take any, like, just fun joy rides? Like,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I just want to do something for fun.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: You get permission. You give them an idea of what
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: you're doing, like a flight plan. They give you a
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: time that you schedule it, and then you go. There
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: are definite set rules. I can't display to anybody. I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: have to be stealthy. It's this planet. I have to
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: be really stealthy. another planet and another system uh there
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: are planets that are wide open and you can just
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: enjoy riding anywhere you want to go sort of like
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: a place you know have fun or even within the
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: systems but you're time limited to that because when you're
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: outside of magnetosphere radiation is not your friend it's not
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: a friend to the craft or tolada and either and
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: so be careful yeah.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Well one guy interviewed tim from louisiana uh described how
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: they took him on board and up to the control room,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: as they call it, the place of movement. And they
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: were describing how they do it. And he had the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: impression that these were young, kind of teenage grays, if
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: you will, that they were still learning and they were like,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: let's try this, let's try that maneuver. And they were
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: having a good time with it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. On days like that, yes. I wanted to flex
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: my mind out. I wanted to flex my abilities. And
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: you can only do that by pushing yourself. And those
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: are the days when it gets a little fun.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I want to read another really short quote because there
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: was a guy that I interviewed in this book, Onboard
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: UFO Experiences, Jay Gardner, who had an experience very much
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: like yours. I think he was 14 or 12, actually 12,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: when he was taken to the planet Saturn, like you described.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: And at one point, they sat him down in the seat.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: And they gave him what he perceived as sort of
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a joystick. But here's what he says happened. I took
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: the controls. and accidentally drove the craft right into the ground.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I could see the rocks. We were passing through the rocks,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: and there were all these sparks flying, dirt and everything.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: And at that point, the actual pilot took back control
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: of the craft. So is that something that can happen?
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Can you actually go physically into the ground?
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: We're in different phases of power. And we're employing different
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: modalities of flight. Yeah, that's an interesting word. And we
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: can be ethereal. In other words, non-dimensional. We go outside
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: this dimension we're here and we're there at the same time.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: And we can go through things. I can go through
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: any building, go through the planet itself, although we don't
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: go deep. But we can. We can go into the water.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you can go sit in the trees if you
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: want to.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Have you done all these things then? Yeah. Have you ever, like, gone, like.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Don't pelt it to the ground, okay? I managed to
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: not do that one. Thank you. But, yeah, I've done
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: some really... It's like cutting through butter. You know, you
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: just go whoop, and you're there. And it's mind-blowing because
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: you've seen it when you're doing it, and you're thinking,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: that's going to hurt. Go right through it.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I think you described one incident. I don't know if
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: this was in the book, but I heard another guy...
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: online talking about how he was taken on board a
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: craft but this craft actually came right into the house
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and physically so next thing he knows he's on board
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: even though uh they didn't pull him up and it
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: came into through the house yeah.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: When i was when i was older i was in
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: the house one night it's after my father passed away
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: i'm laying there and i'm thinking you know i've never
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: actually got to see y'all come through the wall And
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Talos was laughing at me. And I said, no, seriously,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I want to see you come through the wall. And
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: I begged for days. And then one night I got
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: the answer. Talos said, you have an incoming prayer. I
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, cool. And it's not a white light
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: that lights you up. It's a red light. And you
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: see them, I see them anyway, coming in as a
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: red glow. And it literally came right through my bedroom
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: about Not the whole crowd shown in the room, but
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: the bottom half of it did. And they came right
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: through the house real slow, laughing the whole way through.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, oh, my God, is that
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: what people see? And sometimes people do get to see
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: that happen because they're picking them up that way. They'll
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: pull you in and go right through your house to
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: get you. And I've never done that. I've never done that.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: That's not how I do pickups. And it was cool
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: as hell. They can go through anything. Yep.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: So when you go into the water, what's that like?
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Do you feel it?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: No, it's like you know you're in water. In other words,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I know when I'm in the sky, I know when
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I'm in the air, and I know when I'm close
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: to the ground, and I know if I can go
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: through the treetops or whatever. I perceive it. Water is
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: different because you almost want to hold your breath when
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: you're going in because you think, because you can see
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: the water, you're going into the water. I don't feel
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: a splash, I don't feel the barrier of the water.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: It's just air to me. I'm going through it. We
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: go down to a depth and we will sometimes cool
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: off that way so that we can make a physical
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: pickup of somebody. You've got to cool the craft down.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: It's too dangerous for them to come at us when
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: we're that hot. It's kind of cool. We also open
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: blankets underwater. Most people don't understand that. A lot of
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: people report, I saw light under my boat, everything lit up.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: That's the light gating operation.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Very, very cool. Have you ever chased a.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: We transition to some worlds where there are water worlds.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: We do transition from water to water world, and the
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: light gating water will go through that way. It happens
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, the area that I'm flying is
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: near the lakes. I've gone into the Great Lakes quite
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: a few times to light gate.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So when you're flying... There's, you know, interstellar travel,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: which is opening a light gate and boom, you're there.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: But then there's interplanetary, you're over a planet and you're
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: surfing the gravitational field lines. So when you're doing that,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: there's no buttons or knobs. You're just connecting mentally, psychically.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: All right. So that's including when you.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: No transistors. No, there's no... No computers. There are no
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: digital anything on board a craft. The craft, every system
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: is separate because Talata's running them psychically. He's part of
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: the craft and he doesn't need connections between things. He's
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: the whole craft at one time. So no, I don't
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: need any of that. It's all mental.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: All right. Have you ever chased a car down the
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: road while you're like... I saw... Cause they do that. Okay.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: When I was young, young.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: This was in what?
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: 76, 77.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: It came out. I'm still very young then. And, uh,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I got the idea. Ooh, that looks like fun. And
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: this is one of those things that I pushed the
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: gate with. And, uh, we were out West, not Midwest. Okay. Indiana.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: It was one of those long boat roads, you know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: hardly anybody out there. And we saw a car. Hmm.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: came down and i just sort of followed him for
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: a while until he realized and i put white patterns
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: on so i think i was the car first and
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the guy freaked out he hit the gas and i
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: was like do i keep up you know so i
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: chased him for a little while i went above him
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: and then i went in front of him and stopped
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: and he's i mean he spun the car around a
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: little bit trying to stop and he's just staring at
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: us and i was like okay enough enough we're going
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: and i left and uh when i hear you talking
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: about things i silently think about these incidents in my
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: life and i'm like waiting to hear that how you
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: know somebody described that so i don't talk about it
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: too often but that is one of the ones that
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: i did.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah well this is what i mean when i
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: say I always learn something new because this is a
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: lifetime of experiences for you. It's really impossible to cover
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: in one book. It's really why I wanted to do
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: this interview today because there's so much to learn about
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: all of this. So we've covered a lot. I was
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: wondering if you could talk a little bit more about
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: some of the close calls you've had. Have you ever
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: missed a light gate or have you ever dropped when
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the gravitational field lines become too wonky? I mean, could
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you describe some of the more weird close calls you
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: may have had? Just a couple examples.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: We were up, and it was daylight. Field guideline, and
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: it was at the 37th parallel. And it just went
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: left by several hundred feet suddenly. It had nothing under me.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: And my instinct is to jump. to power up to
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: a power up you'll see the whole craft light up
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: instantly and i go from battery straight to nuclear at
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: that point i'm i want my i want my ability
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: to use my own gravitational ability to get out there
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: and drop to about six thousand feet i was way
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: up there and i just dropped and i felt it
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: i physically felt it i was like oh god you
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: know but i We got it going, and I could
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: hear Talata in the background going, good, good, good, good catch,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: good catch, because it got him by surprise, too. This
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: one just shifted all the way to the left. That
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: scared the holy Jesus out of me, okay? And I realized, oh,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: my God, we can crash. You know, this is not
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: a joke. If we had hit it with no field,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the whole craft would have busted up. It would have
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: been bad, and people would have been hurt under me.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: That scared the hell out of me. It left a
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: mark in my brain. Don't do that. I became ultra
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: aware after that. I mean, my brain was constantly. And
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: it served me well, trust me. Another thing that happened
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: to me is through a light gate. I ended up
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: going somewhere I wasn't supposed to. I didn't know. I
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: don't know how I messed that up. I was young.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I ended up somewhere I wasn't supposed to be. And
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: it was a big shock to me. We got on
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: the other side of that gate and stabilized on it.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: And Tawata was dead silent. We just sat there for
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: a few minutes and he said, well, are we going
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: to go or not? I was like, okay. I had
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: to recapture myself because I thought, how did I make
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: that mistake? I got debriefed on that one. They literally
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: sat me down and said, what were you doing? What
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: were you thinking? They wanted to know every second of
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: what I was thinking to get me to the wrong place.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: And I got worked on a little bit with that,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: you know, don't do that again. that could be bad.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that was a big one for me. I
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: felt like a dummy for a while, you know, I
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: was berating myself everywhere, like it scared me. Let's see,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: what's another dumb stupid thing I'm done? Come in, get
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: ready to juice up, in other words, light up, power up.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: You have to bring the batteries up, they drop down somewhat,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: that's why you see a bottom part of the craft
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: that's sort of like lowered, That's the battery packs coming
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: down in the bigger craft. Man, just powered up and
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: that causes a problem with your field. OK, if you
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: got something sticking out on the craft, it can mess
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: with the field somewhat and that causes a wonkiness getting
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: out of the atmosphere. That was a weird day for
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: me too. It's just these are just stupid things that
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: happen to you until you learn not to forget to
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: do them.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Alright, have you ever like knocked out the electronics of
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: someone's house accidentally or something like that?
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I've been coming in. You're not oriented properly. The craft
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: has a definite the EMP that the craft produces is.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: A field of it. Larry on the craft, even more
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: of the South or East or West, whichever way we're turning,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: directing or using the field lines. If you're Facing something
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: directly facing something the MP is in front of you,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: whatever direction you're going in when you're incoming coming down
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: you turn away from it, you turn around from it,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I don't need to see what's in front of me
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: to guide this craft know components younger i'm in the neighborhood.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: that wasn't funny or car on the highway and they're
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: just suddenly going oh my god you know and you
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: worry about them crashing because when the car goes dead
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: and the wheels are moving it goes dead and the
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: wheels are moving and they can't you know you don't
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: have power steering that's great because you can yeah but
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: if you have power steering they're kind of screwed so
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: yeah i have to be very careful with that and
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: yes i accidentally knocked power out yep.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Has anyone like tried to photograph you when they weren't
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: allowed and like that.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: We The closer I am to you, the less likely
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: you're going to get a picture. We hold out at
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: about 3,000. If we're 3,000 feet away from you, you
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: have a really good chance of getting us on film.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Anything closer in than 3,000 feet, you're not going to
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: because your camera, your digital camera, even the film itself
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: can't handle that radiation and it'll knock it out. It'll
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: stop it dead. We know what you're doing. We know
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: you've got a camera in your hand and we know
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: you're pointing it at us. We don't want you to
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: see us. We turn to face you so that you can't.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: We allow the MP to just knock it out and
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: move that rock again. Yeah.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: This is all really interesting to me because, you know,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: when you first start talking about piloting the craft, I
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: had heard this before and it was really even more
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: confirmation for me, certainly, when Canadian researcher Grant Cameron put
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: out his book Sky Pilots, which, you know, basically presents
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the I think it's more than a dozen cases of
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: people who've described the same sort of experience. So would
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: you say this is something that commonly teach other people
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: how to do?
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: There's more than 10 of.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Us.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you there's lots of us. They want us
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: to catch up with them. If you have abilities and
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: they single you out for them, you have a very
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: high chance of being offered this opportunity. And there are
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: plenty of people on this planet who have taken that opportunity.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not the only one.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Do they not have their own pilots? I mean, why
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: would they need to teach us?
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Situation is unique. And one of the situations that we're
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: facing here is that we're at the end of a
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: cycle and they're going to need a lot of craft
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: to pick up a lot of people at the same time.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: And it's better for us. A human opens the door.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: It's the call get on now. prepped everybody for this.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: They've been sending mental messages to everybody on this planet
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: that they're coming. The day will happen. We'll come down
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: and remove humanity from the planet because it will not
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: be safe here anymore. And it's coming to that soon, rapidly.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: And it's better for you not to see Gray sitting
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: there going, hey, how you doing? It'd be better if
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: you see me going, hey.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: How you doing?
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Time to go. And from me beforehand too i mean
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons i'm talking is i want
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: you to understand that this is we're all being trained
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: to help in our excursion our in our saving ourselves
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: that's an important fact that everybody needs to like connect
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: to we're just going to come here and do everything
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: for us not and not by a long shot no
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: they're not they want us to use our abilities they
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: want us to listen to what they have to say
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: is to mentally prepare what's before us and pay attention
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: to the truth because this situation is coming and it's real.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: This is serious stuff then. This is ultimately the purpose
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: of why they agreed to teach you is because there
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: is a purpose behind all this. It's not just fun
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: and games.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: It's not why me and nobody else. I'm one of
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of people here that have disability and are
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: working it.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Alright, so I want to begin to wrap this up
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: because we've been talking almost an hour now and I
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: want to give you the opportunity to sort of, you know,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: give what the ET's message is to all of us
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: and how important, I think it's, you know, basically having
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: to do with the development of our psychic abilities to
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: help overcome what we're facing. But yeah, I mean, however
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: you want to wrap this up, I want to give
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: you that opportunity because this is a big part of
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: your experiences is flying craft, you know, scooping up people
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: to examine and heal them and guide them and counsel
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: them and so forth. But yeah, I mean, what is
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the E.T. 's message to, because I believe you wanted
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: to sort of close with that.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Community has a huge opportunity to move out before it. Yes,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: things are going to be difficult. Yes, they're going to
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: be explosive in front of us and cataclysmic in front
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: of us. But we're We're awesome people like them. We
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: have a lot of ability. We know it innately. We
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: know it. We're good. But you have to choose for
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: yourself where you're going to go with this. And it's
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: important to... to think about it critically. Do this. Decide
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: for yourself. Everybody. Each one of you. No, I'm just
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: going to stay as I am. Whatever happens. Or you
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: can embrace a chance to take this leap with them.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: this journey with them learn with them and you have
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: to do a little bit of work yourself beforehand and
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: it's not hard to do you just have to decide
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: to do it and the first decision in that and
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: the very first decision you must do is learn to
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: separate yourself from what's going on in this world because
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: right now it's a jumble of misinformation outright lying a
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: fantasy that is not true real Happy, fearful, and knowing
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: that you have an opportunity before you to do great
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: things for yourself. And make yourself of whatever woes this
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: world has put upon you. Because you're going to go
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: on a journey if you so choose. And that's the message.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: It's time. Make up your mind which way you want
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: to go. Really think it through. Take a day. Sit
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: down and let the others talk to you. Let ET
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: talk to you. Listen to what they're saying.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's really encouraging, actually. This is a message
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I've heard that other contactees certainly have told me, this
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: sort of thing about the sky filling with craft, warnings
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: of hard times ahead, and all this stuff that you're
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: saying is certainly familiar to me, but it's really wonderful
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: to hear it in such detail, in such positive terms.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: It's just really cool and really remarkable that we have
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: these people out there who are working so hard to
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: help us through this transition. And I think it's important
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: that people know. And like you say, try to sift
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: through all the lies, the disinformation, the false narratives our
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: governments are putting forth and look to the truth, look
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: to science, look to your own experience. And this is
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: something that's available to anyone, right? And anyone can reach
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: out to these guys. Very cool. Anything else you want
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: to add?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Just happy, joyful. These days in front of you to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: work for yourselves and your families and regain consciousness, regain
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: the ability to reach and tap your own consciousness and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: others as well. It's a beautiful thing to do and
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: it's fun.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Very cool.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you how much fun this was for me.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: All of it. I can only imagine. I mean, wow.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: It's fun driving a car. So to say my other
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: car is a UFO, that's a bumper sticker I've seen,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: and have it be true is beyond me. It's just
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: really amazing. So, yeah, thanks, Dolly. That was awesome. And
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I definitely learned some stuff. It was certainly really interesting.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: And we did cover part of this in the book, Symmetry,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: A True UFO Adventure. So if y'all want to read
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: more about Dolly's experiences, definitely check out that book. But yeah, Dolly,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: huge thanks to you. Really appreciate you coming on to
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Very much. I appreciate it.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: All right. That's the show for tonight, guys. Thanks very
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: much for watching. I truly appreciate it. And as I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: always like to say... Keep searching for answers. Keep looking
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: for the truth. And most importantly, keep having fun. Right, Dolly? Absolutely.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Bye, guys.