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NFL Week 14 Monday Night Football | Start/Sit, DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  It's going on. Man, how you doing? You got that Packers
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  gear on? I see? Oh yeah, Packers gear, got the Rods
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  jersey. Hey Jay Love. He's playing well. But interesting two gamer.
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  I love to see all the success in the community. Wasn't a great Sunday
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  for me. That's how she goes though. It's nice seeing two games.
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  Showdown's fun, but these two games slates are fun as well. Very interesting
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  slate too, because I mean you just go at the quarterback position. Well,
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  one guy stands out in tierzone and Tua Love has been playing pretty well,
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  and there's two guys people don't want to click. Kind of the story
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  of this slate, but you know where ownership's gonna go should be pretty fun.
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  I think we're talking. Last time we had a two gamer, we
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  won game by game and like five seconds in we're like we're going position by
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  position. Tell me if that's the case, Tambell, That's what I've been
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  preparing for. But I'm excited to talk to this one. Yeah, that's
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  what I said. I mean, yeah, let's talk about the quarterback position,
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  because then we can relate it to Okay, everyone's gonna go Tua and
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  Love, and it looks like love is actually going to that. We'll go
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  in one second. I do just want to point this out though quickly someone
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  asked about this. A lot of it, Yes, there was different stuff
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  like people were on Lamar. We talked about him within the site yesterday.
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  We talked about in the discord he was in the slate plan. So Lamar
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  Stacks made it. But we brought this up yesterday. It's free on the
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  Male Media Network. This show at nine to forty five am Eastern every Sunday.
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  Jake Browning Stacks. He did just fine. Tanner Hudson even scored a
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  touchdown. Mixon, if you were going to this one, playing mixing made
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  sense. Rock Purty Stacks crushed Ritter almost got me there. I had I
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  needed one more touchdown from Pitts to content with the in joke. Who's in
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  the ingrams of the world and double boost in pits, but that stack was
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  fine. And then of course I was all over justin fields and co.
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  Many others were also, So either way, that's just one tool. But
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  I've explained this multiple times. The Hamdwich FanDuel slate plan alone has won me
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  over two hundred gred these stack rankings. I was heavy on them yesterday in
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  the slate plan, using them out there plenty. It wasn't my best day
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  either. It's nice to see the members get the job done. I didn't
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  put it all together properly, but there's a lot at your fingertips that you
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  can use that's gonna do what we've been We did at less than ten minutes,
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  no manscaped. Congratulations to all the members. We can get on it
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  here hoop. We will go position by position, but before we do,
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  give me your grand scheme overview for what you see for this slate. And
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  then if you have any two game tips. I know we bring them up
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  each time, like two games slate tips, but people do like to know,
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  like, is there stuff you do differently? Is there stuff that you'll
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  consider more? Talk to us a little bit about that as well, and
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  let's get into it. Yeah, I mean it's pretty wide open. I
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  mean in terms of correlation, obviously, it's not a huge, huge deal.
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  You don't need to look to correlate, you know, stacking your quarterback
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  with pass catchers. I mean, it's probably just naturally gonna happen. So
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  I don't think you have to like force it in there. I mean,
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  it's a two games slate. I mean, the winning lineup could just be
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  you know, so wild you look at it at the end of the night
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  and just be like wow, like this makes no sense, but it won
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  somebody five hundred thousand dollars. Also, you need to kind of build your
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  teams with that in mind. You got to build build, you know,
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  build those teams thinking like, man, anything can happen two games slate type
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  thing. Yeah, it is hard to obviously sell yourself on some of these
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  offense or you know, two of these offenses. The Giants are projected to
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  score fifteen and the Titans are projected to score sixteen points, and then you
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  know, you have we have the Dolphins projected to put up thirty, which
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  you know, they put up a lot of points, and they continue to
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  do it even when they're up by a lot, and then the Packers have
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  been rolling, but you know without some key pieces tonight obviously know Aaron Jones
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  and no Christian Watson. And it's kind of a bummer because as I took
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  the I have the Packers in that survivor pool. There's eighty people left for
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  one point three million, and I have the Packers tonight, So I don't
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  feel great about it. To be honest with you, I think we talked
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  about on the cash Show title on Friday, ended up not going with the
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  Steelers. Forty percent of people took the Steelers. There's one hundred and forty
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  people left. Forty percent took the Steelers, another eight took Houston, so
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  it down to like seventy and I got the Packers tonight. So I whop
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  with chalk? It is it? The Oh well, I almost ran so
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  good because the other team, the twenty five percent of people were on the
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  Ravens. Was gonna say that cleared it down to like thirty people. Yeah,
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  Tamble of course, man root against his boy to win one point three
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  million. No, no, no, I was just about to prop you
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  up and say that I think you're still good tonight with these Packers but yes,
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  I was like, oh, it's you didn't get that in that spot.
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  But the Ravens, I mean they played extremely bad and still came out
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  with the wins. So that was just nuts to see. I said it's
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  on the review show earlier for It's even go. The way it did was
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  nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. That was wild wild
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  finish. But yeah, I mean I need the Packers tonight. Long I'll
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  get you, I hope, I hope in terms of late yeah, I
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  mean, just like correlation really doesn't matter all that much if you just run
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  the teams like I like doing this when we hop on the shows. Now
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  I'm gonna start doing them more often, just running one fifty without really changing
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  anything and just seeing like kind of what we get. You're gonna get a
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  lot of two in Jordan Love obviously. I mean those are the two competent
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  quarterbacks on the slate that have been playing well. You're gonna get a lot
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  of AJ Dillon, a ton of AJ Dill like he's without Aaron Jones are
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  gonna Yeah, you're gonna get a lot of Tyreek, and you're gonna get
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  a lot of the cheap Packers wide receivers and those will be the common type
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  builds like that, that sort of build. So I have this team up,
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  we can reference it or not. I have this build up, I
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  have this one hundred and fifty line a build. We can reference this at
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  any point. But I just ran it blindly without putting any rules, nothing
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  in place. Yeah, I mean I was doing the same. I love
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  doing that. I think that's a good part to add to your process if
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  you don't have that in there already, just to see what the field's going
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  to be doing. I know, I say it all the time in NBA.
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  Trust the projections. Same goes for everything else, but it's not always
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  what you think it is. Like people think that means trust exactly what it
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  gives you and just turn it out into a CSV and put it up in
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  your lineups. It's I'm trusting that what's going on here. Lets me think
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  about what others are doing. Now I can work on things that I focus
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  on, like leveraging the field and doing something that's different. And that's why
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  I like for the two gamer going position by position because we know Tua and
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  Love are going to be popular title. And I think I'll get your take
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  on this title. But I think Love actually ends up coming in even more
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  own, just because of the savings and the fact that it's still easy to
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  stack them up. You've got no Jones there, no Watson, it makes
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  it easy to stack that side. And then also if you want to fit
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  Barkley and Tyreek and multiples and who knows how people feel about Dereck Henry or
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  Waddell or some of these other guys, you're already forced into a cheap tight
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  end. So that's what leaves those two. But I actually think love ends
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  up coming in even more own than what we're seeing at least. But what's
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  your thoughts on how it shakes out? Then you can start us off with
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  that as a segue into this quarterback position. So you think Love's gonna be
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  higher on or you think about the same or closer an industry has it projected.
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  I think I'm saying, yeah, interesting, I don't see it that
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  way if I if that, if I knew that, though, I mean,
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  I could even get behind his lock buttoning two in this spot, like
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  they just put up so many points. At the end of the day,
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  the packers are the story of this late like without Watson, without Aaron Jones,
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  everyone's gonna be playing aj Dillon. Tight End is as bad as it
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  ever has been. There's two pretty chig and Tucker Kraft Well Bellinger maybe stuff
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  like that, but like you can't spend up at tight end, which is
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  gonna get everyone on the same tua or love. No one wants to play
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  Davido. No one wants to play will Levis. Will Levis will be a
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  little higher. I don't think he's the craziest play, but it's like,
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  man, then you gotta stack him up with people. Everyone's going Dylan,
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  Everyone's going Tyreek. That's the general roster construction. And then they're punting with
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  the Wicks with the Jayden Reids a guaranteed tight end. So that's the general
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  roster construction right there. Brought over you two gamers always say you can leave
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  money. Pricing is relatively soft on this slant. I don't know, Like
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  Tyreek's obviously up there. The Saquans are up there, but plenty of guys
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  in this mid tier, like with no Watson and no Aaron Jones, these
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  guys are all too cheap for the role. A lot of these giants are
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  very cheap gonna be on the field of tones, so I will be looking
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  to leave some money on the table. Quarterback position, I don't know.
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  It's not really a position I'm gonna get too much different. At no chance
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  I'm playing the Veto even in one hundred teams, I don't think I'm getting
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  there. Will Levis he'd be the guy. I'm probably gonna play all three
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  in one fifty. I don't know, but I want seventy percent of something
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  and then mix in some love, mix in some Levis. I mean,
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  I think two is clearly in his own in his own category. And I
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  think you think love and Tua might you think Love might even be more than
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  Tua, And I think it'll be it's gonna be like thirty five to thirty
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  five as possible, maybe forty thirty, which is what I think people think
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  right now. But I think you could see, you know, thirty eight
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  thirty two just as easily, and that's still pretty close. I'm just saying
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  it's definitely gonna be I don't think two is gonna be fifty percent or something
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  like you kind of could expect in some scenarios. Yeah, I hope,
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  So I hope if that's the case. Yeah, I'm not I like too,
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  a lot more than Jordan Love in this spot. I just think everyone's
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  gonna go with these Packers like there's with these injuries. It's gonna be dyling,
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  it's gonna be read, it's gonna be wixed, it's gonna be Tucker
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  Craft, it's gonna be I don't know. I think those Doves might get
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  a little bit because of his price. But to be honest, how I'm
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  seeing it, if Packers are the chalk of all chalks, I'm gonna try
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  and get some exposure to these other teams. Give me two a waddle or
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  Tyreek single stacking. It's fine with them, and I'll try and get different
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  with some of these other titans giant secondary pieces. But Packers are the story
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  of the slate ist how I'm seeing it. With the injuries, yeah,
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  and Hoop, I want to ask you two same thing, and then you
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  could take on these quarterbacks and comparing it, talking it against the DFS,
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  slate, the ownership, all those other angles that people are looking at.
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  But I think some of its stems too also, not just the injuries on
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  the side of the Packers, but it was not that long ago. That's
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  the thing about with this game. Being when it is with this two games
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  is on Thanksgiving. Remember what happened to kick the day off is love just
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  went nuts right and the glove came out. He got the job. I
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  do think that's somewhere in the back of people's mind. And then obviously you
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  get the savings from two down to him. I just think that stands out
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  to people. So that's why I think, Look, even if he stays
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  at where the industry kind of has him at right now, in that thirty
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  percent range, it's still a lot of love lineups. So a lot of
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  love for Jeorde, if you will. But what's your take on that and
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  the rest of the quarterbacks as they pertain to the slate. Yeah, it's
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  tough. I mean, oh gosh, it's like clicking on de Vito or
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  Loves. It just does not sound like a fun time tonight to kind of
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  have to like root for those guys. I mean, just let's look at
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  the fantasy output. So Loves his last five games twelve, seven, thirteen,
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  seven, ten fantasy points, like, none of those are going to
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  be needed tonight. You're going to need more than that most likely. And
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  then DeVito eleven, he does have a twenty two spot. He does have
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  a fourteen spot, he's gotten a ten and then he's got a seven most
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  recently. Know, Man, Like, what are the odds of Levis or
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  Davito being the optimal quarterback tonight? You got to kind of weigh that out
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  a little bit, and like their combined ownership is coming in I don't know,
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  somewhere between like twenty five ish to thirty percent potentially to just say,
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  hey, you know what, I'm just playing love in Tua and then hoping
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  it's one of them and then I'm going to have more pass to the top.
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  Is it that sort of night? Like that's something I'm looking at potentially
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  doing, you know, between Divito and Levis, Like who do I prefer
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  between those two? I think it's de Vito. Something tells me maybe it's
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  just because I need the Packers to win so bad, but something tells me
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  that the Giants like get something going here tonight, Like I don't know,
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  like maybe I'm just trying to, you know, make something out of my
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  head here, but just I think they might get something going. So maybe
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  it is Davito, But I'm not opposed to just playing Love in Tua.
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  And then the question for you guys in terms of stacking, like are you
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  are you playing a pass catcher with your quarterbacks or just letting it run?
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  Definitely yeah, at least one Yeah, yeah, same. So I'm gonna
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  yeah, I mean you can. I don't think you actually have to,
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  but I'm definitely leaning towards doing it. But it's naturally gonna happen anyway.
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  If you're high on love and to it, you're just naturally gonna get those
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  already getting it with them. Yeah, it's gonna show up in there.
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  Yeah, I don't know. I mean you can cut out a big chunk
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  of the field if you think it's just too out of love tonight. I
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  mean you can cut out a big chunk and you know people are going,
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  oh well, DeVito and let us will be low on it on a two
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  game slate. That's all gonna add up. They're gonna get some sort of
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  ownership, There's no doubt about it. You can just potentially cut a big
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  chunk of the field out. So it's something I'm exploring and all that information
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  will be up on the on my player pool. Yeah. The AH and
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  hoop stands for hedge life. He's got that big bet big money bet in
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  for the Survivor six. It's just chilling in the back of my head,
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  man, Like I woke up today and I'm like, man, the giants
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  are gonna like just ruin ruin everything tonight. I don't know. He only
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  likes to Vito because it helps him on the other side. Yeah, right,
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  get emotional, Get the emotional free roll. Get the emotional free roll,
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  the picks from Hoop and me and others. Sign up for the actual
• 19:07
  process, and now you know Hoops process tonight. But I will say,
• 19:10
  like a couple of things you said. One even if they are like the
• 19:11
  chat's already chiming in and not believing twenty five percent ownership on Levis and on
• 19:18
  Deveto, but that's fine. Put it at fifteen percent. Put them at
• 19:21
  seven and a half percent each. You still that, like Hoop said,
• 19:23
  if you want to go all in on those other two, you're definitely knocking
• 19:27
  off fifteen percent of the field there some way, shape or form by looking
• 19:30
  at it from that perspective, if you go that way, it gives you
• 19:34
  the ability to mix in more of these hunt plays in these other positions.
• 19:38
  Like let's say you get some Tua Tyree Barkley's things like that, But now
• 19:42
  you can mix in some more different running backs like the Patrick Taylor's are the
• 19:45
  spears Is of the World's things like that. If you want to mix more
• 19:48
  of those guys in, if you want to mix in more Hyatts, and
• 19:52
  you know who else is out there, Wis and Shepherds and all these different
• 19:56
  plays at the wide receiver position, you can do that tight end same thing.
• 19:59
  But it does up for that kind of slate because you've got sort of
• 20:02
  all cheap tight ends, all mid range running backs, mostly mid range wide
• 20:07
  receivers, with Tyreek being the exception, and then quarterbacks. It's like two
• 20:11
  and then three whatevers. But everyone's just automatically ranking Love ahead of the other
• 20:15
  two, probably for good reason and because of what we've seen him doing lately.
• 20:18
  So it does set up for that way. You're gonna have to look
• 20:21
  for ways to get different Hoop just brought up a couple title mentioned some as
• 20:25
  well. I think you will just get natural stacking in there, no problem
• 20:27
  for what we said. You'll get money left on the table. But sometimes
• 20:30
  on slates like this, it's the take out every Derek Henry lineup or take
• 20:36
  out some and put in spears and leave the money. Well that's what one,
• 20:40
  that's what won. This is in the last two games a squirrel control,
• 20:42
  right, I mean it was a common build and then he just went
• 20:45
  from I can't remember who they got hurt job and that job got hurt.
• 20:48
  Yeah, and then they had had Ford in there and you know it ship
• 20:52
  I mean solo ship. Was it a million? I think he left like
• 20:56
  four thousand or something on the table. It's a big on the table.
• 21:00
  So yeah, just that one pivot essentially everything else was right on par with
• 21:04
  you know, natural normal builds, but those one to two pivots made all
• 21:08
  the difference in the world and a big chunk of money on the table.
• 21:11
  I mean, it's a two games lay. I mean there's just you just
• 21:12
  don't need to overcomplicate it, like we know who what the common sort of
• 21:18
  build is going to be tonight. You know, you know that if you're
• 21:21
  looking to solo shift, you know, take some of those chances, and
• 21:25
  it paid off in that last big two games late. Yeah, I think
• 21:27
  everyone has them ranked pretty much the same way. It's like one of those
• 21:30
  two up top and then the other two way down at the bottom. For
• 21:33
  these four quarterbacks. So you have to look at it from how you're gonna
• 21:37
  build it out. You know, if with Tua, it's still very easy
• 21:41
  to get to Tyreek. So I'll definitely have some tool lineups that don't contain
• 21:44
  Tyreek, and you just hope you get the Wattle game. I know everybody
• 21:47
  makes fun of we talk about, you know, let's get off too,
• 21:49
  Let's get off Tyreek and go to Wattle and we're going to be unique.
• 21:52
  And it's not even the case half the time because Wattle still gets a lot
• 21:56
  of the ownership. I get that joke. But on a two game slate
• 21:59
  would be a spot to make that happen. Or just look for your Tyreek
• 22:02
  lineups that don't have Wattle. Take out Tyreek and drop down to Waddle.
• 22:06
  Like that's one example again where you can get different and it's gonna feel a
• 22:10
  little bit uncomfortable, but not much should feel comfortable. On these two game
• 22:12
  slates, it's very easy to build a nice lineup that everyone else gonna have.
• 22:15
  You're doing that, get your best one, go play the double ups,
• 22:19
  the single entry double ups, all the stuff with the bigger fields,
• 22:22
  and play a bunch of cash with because it's probably a really good lineup that
• 22:26
  projects well, that's gonna have three hundred and fifty percent ownership or pushing four
• 22:30
  hundred percent ownership that is not gonna do great for leverage in these large field
• 22:34
  tournaments like the twenty dollars on DraftKings that pays five hundred k to first.
• 22:38
  That's how you solo ship. To the point Hoop made about squirrel patrol is
• 22:42
  if you do something like that. So I think that's definitely a way you
• 22:45
  can go with like another angle, you could have liked Vedo or Levis with
• 22:52
  one guy and so you're still stacking them where you can pay it off and
• 22:56
  get double points out of it. But then you could fit in the other
• 23:00
  receivers that most people would be pairing with they're expensive. One like if you
• 23:03
  went like, let's just make an example up of like Wattle Tyreek with DeVito,
• 23:07
  I know you're gonna assume it's gonna be, but you don't know what's
• 23:10
  gonna happen at those other positions, you could end up having a Levis or
• 23:14
  I guess you could still use Love in this example and go Love Tyreek Wattle.
• 23:18
  You would expect it to be tua, but you end up filling it
• 23:21
  out with other stuff instead that's still needed. We've seen that work plenty of
• 23:25
  times on these slates, so I don't have any problem with that as well.
• 23:27
  Title. I'll go back to you just if you have any other thoughts
• 23:30
  on sort of those types of things like stacking them up. And I gotta
• 23:33
  give a shout out to your your homies the Best Ball Sweats and I know
• 23:37
  you know, not a best Ball show, but we have a great partnership
• 23:40
  with Drafters. We do stuff with Underdog, a lot of people sweating on
• 23:42
  both sides. You are the defending Drafters champion. I have to ask you,
• 23:45
  my friend. I know you don't. You're like me, We're not
• 23:48
  looking at this stuff till it matters tonight kind of matters. We're getting close
• 23:52
  to at least something. Do you have some sweats? Do you know of
• 23:55
  others that have some sweats there? What are we looking at here in the
• 23:56
  Best Ball streets? Before you continue on Drafters fully cooked? I think I
• 24:00
  looked two weeks ago my top two teams at Mark Andrews and Joe Burrow,
• 24:04
  so that won't do the job. I did see one person though, on
• 24:07
  Twitter he's been past like three four weeks. He was in first place for
• 24:12
  a while, he dropped his second place. He was tweeting that out on
• 24:15
  drafters too, So forget the user name. He said he's been following for
• 24:18
  a bit though, shout out to you. Good luck. Nothing better,
• 24:22
  as I told him than that sweat. As far as Underdog and DraftKings,
• 24:26
  well yeah, I mean you really still have to get lucky. So today's
• 24:27
  the last day to get to the playoffs. But yeah, I mean you
• 24:30
  can still have the stone nut team. Like the guy that had the best
• 24:33
  regular season team on Underdog last year got bounced first round, and that is
• 24:37
  common, So you gotta get really lucky all the teams on both sites moving
• 24:41
  through. But it's I don't click. I have so many teams. I
• 24:45
  don't click through each one, and it's really all about can you feel the
• 24:47
  healthy team at this point, So gotta get lucky this I'll be hoping to
• 24:51
  do good luck everybody else. There more injuries too, like last night to
• 24:53
  the Herbert stuff man, my Herbert Jacobs, Like, I mean, everything
• 24:57
  is on a side note, How does that coach still have a fucking job?
• 25:00
  I mean, that guy is such a disaster. I mean, I
• 25:03
  know it's not related to the Herbert injury, but he's got to be like
• 25:06
  one of the worst. And he just looks like a bonehead just sitting on
• 25:08
  the sideline. He just looks like an idiot. Like, get his ass
• 25:11
  out of there. Please. You could say that about a lot of these
• 25:14
  guys, yeah, for sure, but he, for some reason, there's
• 25:17
  something about his He's got some look on his face that just irritates and just
• 25:21
  irritates me. Just get him out. Please let him be a defensive coordinator
• 25:25
  somewhere. I'm sure that's the next job in line for him. Like get
• 25:27
  him like move like, get out of here, Roby says, sitting in
• 25:30
  first right now by a mile headed to the playoffs. He's Jack and McCaffrey.
• 25:34
  That's nice, real quick, Danny, you did win yesterday. Congrats.
• 25:37
  This is not like a set and stone thing, right. One thing
• 25:41
  I will definitely say, though, is if you're on the site, go
• 25:44
  right here, go under shop, go education, and if you're looking to
• 25:47
  play NFLDFS you're here, I'm assuming, so click into this course. It's
• 25:51
  four hours, but you can pick and choose your spots. Go into the
• 25:53
  table of contents. Every member, anyone that signs up gets full access to
• 25:57
  this. We have an NBA one as well, and then we've got another
• 26:00
  one coming soon for PGA. So we're gonna get you guys set up for
• 26:03
  success. There as well be recording that shortly. I'll kick it back to
• 26:07
  you title carry on any other stuff, like I was trying to look for,
• 26:10
  just like ways that you can get unique within these stacks, obviously going
• 26:12
  position by position today, we'll incorporate it when we get to running back and
• 26:15
  wide receiver, et cetera. But like I think the one I thought of
• 26:19
  was like de Vito and one of those cheap tight ends. It looks like
• 26:22
  Bellinger is gonna play, but if he didn't, or even if he does,
• 26:26
  you can still play. If he plays, play him, it's fine.
• 26:27
  But if he doesn't, you still have Cager right there for three hundred
• 26:30
  bucks cheaper. If you just do just those two, you're off the mark.
• 26:33
  Now just fill it out with almost whatever and leave a little money.
• 26:37
  Don't get all the chalk. But like you could do a lot of things
• 26:40
  at that point, I think, is there anything else like that that you
• 26:41
  can think of that stands out before we hop into it. No, yeah,
• 26:45
  that's definitely, Like, if you're maxing all your salary on this two
• 26:48
  games late, you want to make sure you're playing someone that's gonna be sub
• 26:52
  ten percent. Maybe you are playing obviously Squirrel up a ton of money there,
• 26:56
  but I guess on this late, if AJ Dillon gets hurt, like
• 27:00
  if a chain gets hurt, you know it's most or ad vice versa.
• 27:02
  But like, if AJ Dillon gets hurt, it's gonna be Patrick Taylor.
• 27:06
  So if you want to do that, you can max have a game script
• 27:07
  in mind, the Taji Spears Derrick Henry will get into that. Of course,
• 27:11
  always look at ownership, but if you're using all your salary, you
• 27:15
  want to make sure you have at least one, probably two sub ten to
• 27:19
  fifteen percent players in there. To get different or we always talk about it
• 27:23
  completely overstacked, not really sure how contry, and that's gonna be with the
• 27:26
  Packers today just because of the pricing. But if you over even Miami with
• 27:30
  how expensive they are, any of the other three teams, but the Packers,
• 27:34
  that's a way to get different as well. So yeah, yeah,
• 27:38
  like that one too. It's a two gamer and you turn into a one
• 27:41
  gamer where you just have to use a piece from the other game or something,
• 27:44
  and that's plenty fine. I mean that happens all the time on these
• 27:47
  slids. Definitely can do that, and then do it with leaving money.
• 27:49
  When you've got Jayden Red instead of Jalen Wattle in your lineup, it's like
• 27:55
  most people would just obviously go up to him. Beau's gonna project better it's
• 27:59
  with Tua than and then guess what, you probably have the money to convert
• 28:02
  to Tua too, like if you're leaving enough on there. So I definitely
• 28:03
  don't hate that. And if you want to play around with it, go
• 28:07
  into the optimizer like Hoop did. He built out what everybody's doing. When
• 28:10
  you just press the button, that's what a lot of the field's doing.
• 28:11
  People start maneuvering with it. Sharper players definitely don't just do that. But
• 28:15
  what we're saying is you could also win and set your salary cap to a
• 28:19
  max of forty eight five hundred and then run one fifty and see what those
• 28:23
  lineups you get looked like and start to figure out, oh okay, well
• 28:27
  if I do that, and then you might find lineups you're like that doesn't
• 28:30
  even look that bad. It correlates, it makes sense, looks solid to
• 28:33
  me, and then go from there. So I think there's a lot of
• 28:36
  ways that you could do it. If nothing else, I don't think there's
• 28:38
  much else to go on there. We're gonna tie it in when we get
• 28:41
  the receivers and stuff. Anyway, but title, maybe talk to us a
• 28:42
  little bit about these running backs. We know about the news that came out
• 28:47
  this morning, Aaron Jones doubtful, so we're expecting him to be out.
• 28:49
  And then you talk about Patrick Taylor behind AJ Dillon the chat. They know
• 28:53
  you're wearing the Packers gear and everything you got going on there, but you
• 28:56
  know the Whisko boys and all this, but they're gonna continue to tell you
• 29:00
  that AJ Dillon sucks and just keep it rolling from there. And I agree,
• 29:03
  you agree. So I was just gonna say, I don't think it's
• 29:06
  a problem for that part, but talk to me a little bit about and
• 29:08
  it says Aaron Jones out officially anyway. So I saw this morning, I
• 29:12
  didn't I didn't go from there. I was on another show. But go
• 29:15
  ahead, take over. Yeah, I'll talk running back position. First of
• 29:18
  all, what's going on space cowboy. Hope everything going well with you talking
• 29:21
  about hoops long two in the snow, but hope everything going well Bill.
• 29:25
  As far as a running back position, well, I mean you look at
• 29:27
  it right away. So if you sortify a salary, Saquan seven to one
• 29:30
  and Chain seven k most at six' seven, Derrick Henry six' five,
• 29:34
  Dylan five to three, and I will say Taji Spears five k two
• 29:38
  because I think he's over ten percent, those are the only guys that are
• 29:41
  getting any ownership right there, though, So six people on a running back
• 29:45
  slate, you have to play at least two. I mentioned the Patrick Taylor.
• 29:49
  I'll throw Matt Breed in there as well. Those are the only two
• 29:52
  because Derrick Henry and Taji both get in the work. Like if one of
• 29:56
  them get hurt, you know it's gonna be up the other guy. They're
• 29:57
  still owned. If a Chain he gets hurt most or they'll still be owned.
• 30:02
  If you want to get the crazy the backup running back, you're playing
• 30:03
  one hundred and fifty whatever, I would only do Patrick Taylor and Matt Brida
• 30:07
  because if Saquon goes down, you know Brida's getting to work. No one's
• 30:11
  playing them. Same thing with AJ Dillon, I still probably won't get there
• 30:15
  as much. I like just leaving money hoping to avoid injury. But when
• 30:18
  you do get the injury, you can win. Five hundred K. Now
• 30:22
  AJ Dillon, Yes, I do think he's cheaps. He's been a little
• 30:25
  better as of late. The offensive line has been better. They're getting a
• 30:29
  better push. But he's five point three K and no Aaron Jones. He's
• 30:33
  gonna get a ton of work against an awful Giants team is good sized favorites,
• 30:37
  and you look at it like Saquon Chain Moster and Derrick Henry all at
• 30:44
  least twelve hundred dollars more than him. I'll just naturally, I'm playing a
• 30:47
  lot of Tua, I'm playing a lot of Tyreek. I will have my
• 30:51
  highest owned running back will be AJ Dillon, And it's not fun to say
• 30:53
  at all, but he is plus one twenty to fall in the box.
• 30:56
  Pretty solid props and again good game script which should be as they should be
• 31:02
  leading most of the game. I like a chain of Moster are way more
• 31:03
  than I like Sakuan. I like Taji Spears more than I like Derrick Henry
• 31:10
  it's not a fifty to fifty split, but it's pretty close to it.
• 31:12
  When the Tennessee's leading, it's Derrick Henry show, and as we saw two
• 31:17
  weeks ago, when they're trailing, it's Taji Spears way more involved. Obviously,
• 31:21
  you look at it against Miami, they're expected to be trailing thirteen and
• 31:25
  a half point. Dogs. Give me Taji Spears over Derrick Henry, and
• 31:27
  I still think, I don't know, maybe a third of the ownership something
• 31:30
  like that. Love Taji Spears will be playing a lot of them, and
• 31:34
  they get a pivot from that AJ Dillon range too. Of course I'll puny
• 31:37
  lineups bout five K five to three, easy to get to a tyreek,
• 31:41
  leave more money on the table. But I like Taji Spears as a pivot
• 31:45
  to AJ Dillon. Derrick Henry is my least favored up there. Someone asking
• 31:49
  you play a chain of moster are together one hundred percent most Definitely that offense
• 31:53
  is insane. Both the guys have got there multiple times this year and there's
• 31:56
  only two games slate it was six running act really in play. So Henry
• 32:02
  Spears is the interesting one. I've been going back and forth if I should
• 32:06
  group it away or not. But again, little things like that is how
• 32:08
  you can win two games slates, I just because they're so game script like.
• 32:13
  Again, Henry's clearly the guy when they're ahead. Spears is the guy
• 32:15
  when they're behind. I think I probably want to group it away more times
• 32:20
  than not. I like a chain in most more than Saquon. I like
• 32:23
  Spears more than Henry. And now we'll have a lot of AJ Dillon probably
• 32:27
  won't be playing the Taylor Brita injury thing, but I don't think it's the
• 32:30
  craziest thing. I gotta have a talk with our guy Boomer on those projections.
• 32:34
  If you somehow get a Henry Spears lineup together, that requires you to
• 32:37
  set a group, because my goodness, that should not be a thing,
• 32:40
  and I definitely will not be playing them together. It's already known the stats
• 32:44
  are out there forever on this de Hember stuff, but it's also known forever
• 32:49
  that those stats go with when Tennessee was actually pretty good and it was it's
• 32:52
  games that they're in. They're fourteen point underdogs here, so I mean,
• 32:55
  I don't know, Like I said, the optimizers still who this is a
• 32:59
  great spot to use that you got it up there. How much Henry are
• 33:01
  you getting in the dry run? Just no much, just shoved her in.
• 33:06
  Let's go. I just ran in with single digits. Now, I
• 33:08
  just put in as we were talking, because I didn't again, didn't do
• 33:13
  anything, but I did put in Taji Spears, you know, to get
• 33:16
  at least ten percent. And when when I look at those teams individually,
• 33:21
  I am getting him a decent bit with Derrick Henry. So that is important
• 33:25
  to make sure you go in and make sure that doesn't happen because I'm looking
• 33:30
  at I don't know of these fifteen teams I see Henry one, two,
• 33:36
  three, four, five, But though you've put a mint on Spears as
• 33:42
  well in this yeah, yeah, yeah, to force them in a little
• 33:44
  bit. Yeah, to kind of force them in. But it is coming
• 33:45
  alongside with Henry on some of these teams. I agree, like, I
• 33:49
  don't definitely don't want those two those two together, there's not I would second
• 33:52
  and double back on that. If you are, if you are going to
• 33:55
  do that and get him in there, then net yeah, make sure you
• 33:58
  set the rule because on the slate titles said earlier, the way salary sets
• 34:00
  up. That's why that to me would be happening. I didn't see any
• 34:04
  earlier when I looked at it, just dry. That's why I was trying
• 34:07
  to see what you were getting on Henry if you did nothing forget spears altogether.
• 34:12
  Yeah, it was nothing. I was getting barely any Henry. I
• 34:14
  was getting barely any Henry. And I mean because these optimizers are just gonna
• 34:16
  jam aj Dillon. Like AJ Dillon came in at one hundred percent, so
• 34:21
  like every single team had AJ Dillon without changing anything. And what about Moster,
• 34:27
  it's projection to Henry because he's two hunderd and more. I think that
• 34:30
  probably has a little to do with it as well. Yeah, it's it's
• 34:32
  very possible. I mean it was heavy Dylan a chain and Barkley at running
• 34:37
  back and the other guys. There was just not much of anyone else.
• 34:40
  If just you guys run, you guys got a strong lean on most are
• 34:44
  to chain. Like ever, you're we're really guessing a lot at this point.
• 34:49
  A chain's more explosive. Moster's got a little first half, we got
• 34:52
  more touches. Second half was the chain. Again, I can play them
• 34:54
  both, but people are probably wondering if if any of you guys got a
• 34:58
  strong lean. I'm curious. I don't know. I mean, for me
• 35:01
  that thirty team total, I want a lot of both, you know.
• 35:05
  I want to try to capture as many touchdowns from the Dolphins as I can.
• 35:08
  So I don't have a lien. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked
• 35:12
  if it was most. It wouldn't be shocked if it was a chain that
• 35:15
  got the job that. I wouldn't be shocked if it both of them.
• 35:15
  So I'm just trying to get a lot of both. I guess, yeah,
• 35:19
  you can definitely play both too. We've seen it happen on a main
• 35:21
  slate. I don't no one got to it on that main slate because it
• 35:23
  was when Aham was sort of just figured out and found out about. That
• 35:27
  was at the start of the season. But just to note, I mean,
• 35:29
  not a two gamer could definitely do that. If someone said earlier,
• 35:31
  like what if they get a couple of touchdowns each or something like that,
• 35:35
  I don't know. I don't think. I don't think we'll see a bunch
• 35:37
  of it, but you can definitely get it in there by forcing it and
• 35:39
  putting it through that way. I was just trying to see, so I
• 35:42
  ran the same thing, but I capped at sixty, which I think is
• 35:45
  reasonable for this type of slate. Like, I don't think anyone's actually gonna
• 35:49
  go out and just play all those lock buttons of what it was trying to
• 35:52
  give me, like Tyreek sa Quon and then there was one more, So
• 35:55
  I'll just look at it. AJ Dillon. Sorry. So from this perspective,
• 35:59
  I still get six of Tyreek, Barkley, Tua Dylan and go from
• 36:06
  there. But Derek Henry now pops into fifty five percent of those lineups.
• 36:10
  So now when I look at it from that perspective, I'm just trying to
• 36:14
  see if I go to it, how many actually get spears in there and
• 36:17
  I get zero lineups with spears. I get five percent spears and in none
• 36:23
  with Henry. So just to keep it from that perspective, I mean,
• 36:27
  that's something that I would look at, but I wonder how much I'm actually
• 36:30
  getting of Let me turn him off since we're still talking running back title and
• 36:35
  go to how much do you think you're actually gonna get? Like, Okay,
• 36:37
  let's see, it's giving me more moster than a chan? Where am
• 36:43
  I getting here? A chan is twenty eight percent. Mostered is give me
• 36:45
  thirty five. But then how much within the moster lineups does it even give
• 36:51
  me a double? Let's see one, two three, I actually get twenty
• 36:57
  two lineups out of one fifty where we're going a double. So I'll kick
• 37:00
  it back to you title. Forget just the slight lean on what side you'd
• 37:02
  be on. Talk to me about the double, because the optimizer will give
• 37:06
  you, even with a sixty percent cap, it's giving me twenty two lineups
• 37:10
  at a one to fifty that have both of them in it together. So
• 37:14
  what's your take on that? One hundred percent? Good with it? The
• 37:16
  offense is so explosive they're good. I mean fourteen point favorite thirteen and a
• 37:21
  half have to run the ball out. And you look at touchdown props on
• 37:24
  this slate. Tyreek's minus one ninety a Chain minus one ten, Moster plus
• 37:30
  one oh five, Saquon plus one oh five. So right there, you
• 37:32
  have two of the top four touchdown props on the slate, and you had
• 37:37
  Saquon in there, the top two of the three the top ones right there,
• 37:40
  So I think you can totally play together. And like, Saquon's not
• 37:44
  in a great spot like AJ Dillon. We know can be Cheeks Henry Taji
• 37:47
  as big dogs. I wouldn't be surprised at all if a change moster or
• 37:51
  the highest on the slate playing with Tyreek, I mean they're applied for thirty
• 37:55
  and even if they're out twenty one to nothing, still got their foot down
• 37:59
  on the gas mostly there. So yeah, I'm totally good playing both together.
• 38:02
  Not could be contrarian, but I don't know. Some people will get
• 38:06
  a little scared of that handbuilding. Maybe yeah, it's definitely possible from the
• 38:08
  handbuilds keep it away from it, but it's crazy the optimizer was giving it
• 38:12
  that often, so I just thought i'd point that out. And then Zim
• 38:14
  says, can beat through the air versus the ground. You can do both
• 38:16
  against Tennessee. And you got to remember, we've watched it how many times
• 38:20
  with Dallas a bunch. We watched it again yesterday with San Francisco. All
• 38:24
  of they're just gonna be And you know, I love CMC. Yesterday and
• 38:27
  CMC had a bad game and got like twenty points. It's one of those
• 38:30
  things because Deebo got the end around, they rewarded him for what was pretty
• 38:32
  much his touchdown anyway, that type of stuff happens, but it was all
• 38:37
  like purty I you kidd ol debo all through the air and stuff where you
• 38:42
  still got to put up the points for it to be a blowout. So
• 38:44
  that could be something too that like you can go tonight where I know it's
• 38:46
  giving you Barkley and a lot of those lineups, but I think you could
• 38:50
  get to a with these running backs at least one of them or both of
• 38:53
  those guys and going off it you can mix a match how you're doing that
• 38:57
  hoop? Do you get anything else you want to add or talk more about
• 38:59
  the running backs and then some of the usage jump these backups like the Patrick
• 39:02
  Taylor's spears, all these ones that we already brought up where some of them,
• 39:07
  like Spears already gets a little bit of work and then he got a
• 39:09
  lot of work when Henry got injured last week, and now it's like he's
• 39:12
  back, but still what's what's gonna happen there? Yeah? Sorry, I
• 39:15
  had to step away. I had to sign for a package at the front
• 39:17
  door, and the male guy just continuously just he kept kept ringing, kept
• 39:22
  ringing the doorbell NonStop. So I figured it might if we'll take it,
• 39:24
  take care of that. Uh, like Sharp is a great run back for
• 39:30
  uh you know the Washington Yeah, which one? Which one? Sharp?
• 39:39
  You're talking about? Yeah? You're talking about? Is that even a person
• 39:45
  from a different sport? And I just make that up. I don't know.
• 39:49
  He's talking about Darren Sharper safety in the league. The clip where he's
• 39:54
  carrying him. Hey, but our boy, your boy PJ. Washington did
• 40:01
  get that late touchdown. Yes, that was who Sharp played for the Titans
• 40:08
  before. Yeah, back in the day. I don't know, twenty sixteen
• 40:13
  to twenty nineteen, he played for the He played for the Titans. Yeah,
• 40:16
  yeah, thank you, wide receiver, right receiver yees, yes,
• 40:20
  yes, yes, Okay, But Spears, I think you know, good
• 40:22
  guy to run bay if you're playing in the game scrip where the Dolphins are
• 40:25
  scoring forty points and you have a bunch of Dolphins guys in your lineups,
• 40:30
  I think Spears is a good guy to include in there. Fade Derek he
• 40:35
  Henry play Spears five K. I don't think he'll get much ownership today.
• 40:38
  I think he definitely makes sense. The AJ Doon stuff is a little bit
• 40:42
  scary. Just because he's five point three k he's got so many passed to
• 40:45
  just like busting man. Like we've seen it so many times in these spots,
• 40:49
  but it's just hard not to play him. And then the dolphin stuff
• 40:53
  one heavy exposure there. I do like Barkley. I just again, I
• 40:57
  don't know, it's a gut feeling. And maybe it's because I need the
• 41:00
  Packers to win today, but I just think the Giants are productive today and
• 41:04
  there's a few giants that I like well, especially at the next position that
• 41:07
  we'll talk about. But I think Saquon, you know, he has the
• 41:09
  role. I mean he No, it's not this, it's not that dude
• 41:14
  good It's definitely Yeah, it was that wide receiver Tai Sharp. But Barkley
• 41:20
  has the most secure role I think, honestly on the slate seventy one hundred.
• 41:25
  You know, if the game does go his way, if the Giants
• 41:28
  do have a lead, I mean, he has a path to a lot
• 41:30
  a lot of touches. So you know, just to summarize it, at
• 41:34
  the running back position, you know, he he might be my favorite.
• 41:37
  To be honest with you, yeah, I also think that just thinking out
• 41:39
  loud, that's what this show is for, for me, for you guys,
• 41:42
  we try and pieces together where it's not just this is the play or
• 41:45
  do the game by game like we used to on these two gamers. Because
• 41:46
  I think that you just brought up a point and I saw it against Washington
• 41:50
  when I was at King of the Beach. But the Veto leaning on Barkley,
• 41:53
  Let's get him going those two together. What if he went to veto
• 41:57
  Barkley and one of the cheap tight ends and then filled all the rest out
• 42:01
  and then you've got Barkley dragging the Veto through. Whereas most people that go
• 42:07
  to Veto are gonna naturally just go to whether it's Hyatt or whether it's gonna
• 42:10
  be Slayton or Wandale or with Barkley with one of them. What if you
• 42:15
  skip over the wide receivers, go to Barkley and one of the tight ends.
• 42:20
  Think about what that red zone play looks like. It could be Barkley
• 42:22
  scoring, it could be a pass to them that gets them there on an
• 42:25
  end or something like that where they do that or one of the tight ends.
• 42:29
  I think that's definitely possible as well. So making a case for the
• 42:32
  Italian stallion is someonere calling him earlier but trying just to say different ways that
• 42:37
  you can work around it. So I don't hate that call. I think
• 42:39
  the sharp play would be the Spears play if you go to it, because
• 42:45
  you talk about a guy that was already. Man, you just can't resist
• 42:49
  that shit, like you just can't even like any little thing like that that
• 42:52
  pops in your head, like you have to say it. You have to.
• 42:57
  I'm sorry, I gotta do it, and someone got it. I
• 42:59
  mean, the chat real dark. We understand the news line on Darren Sharper
• 43:02
  is not very solid. I mean, the guy's in jail for twenty years
• 43:05
  or something. But it's a Madden reference and it's so incredible when he's going
• 43:09
  down the thing he's got a broken leg and he's yeah, Greg, the
• 43:15
  one Greg Jennings and then he no, it's a YouTube video. I'll send
• 43:21
  it to you after. I only have one YouTube video popped up right now,
• 43:27
  and so it's Tampa on I still thing sitting here. Oh god man,
• 43:34
  you're just killing me. But yeah, either way, the point was
• 43:37
  the Spear, the Patrick Taylor one. I get it. He's behind AJ
• 43:39
  Dillon. People already don't want to play A. J. Dillon. They
• 43:42
  don't like him for every reason, so they just naturally go to it,
• 43:45
  and I get that, But I do think that the Spears play again.
• 43:47
  I know. I also understand that last week was because Henry got injured.
• 43:52
  So if you're just game, I watched a go but Tannaba, I looked
• 43:53
  and saw last week that's all because of an injury. That's fine. He
• 43:57
  was mixing in and getting twenty to thirty snap every other week. There was
• 44:00
  already talks of it down the stretch, and then I just don't see how
• 44:04
  Tennessee's in the game very, very long. And what everyone's gonna say is
• 44:07
  the truth. They're gonna lean on Henry. I don't disagree with this.
• 44:09
  They should, they should try and start it out. But just because we're
• 44:13
  in the month of December that people flip to the name de Hember probably someone
• 44:16
  like me coming up with these things off the top of their head. It
• 44:20
  doesn't mean he's gonna have a good game. So if they're out of the
• 44:22
  game script pretty quickly, then I think it moves on from there and a
• 44:25
  guy likes like Spears can just start to pick it up, right, He
• 44:29
  can start getting checked downs he can make moves, be shifty, almost like
• 44:32
  reminding me of like a Gibbs in the game against the Ravens. Just to
• 44:37
  get on hoops case one more time the Ravens played the Lions. They won
• 44:40
  like forty to six, But you got thirty Fantasy points at a Gibbs in
• 44:45
  that game. I'm not expecting thirty from Spears. But I'm saying you could
• 44:49
  start to see him rack it up even if there is a garbage time script.
• 44:52
  Even without he can get in there earlier. But if it turns to
• 44:54
  garbage time script, I should say a better way is you could see even
• 44:58
  more of him. So don't hate that title. Anything else to add If
• 45:00
  not, you can take us into these wide receivers, man, give us
• 45:02
  your thoughts here. Yeah, I'll go team by team to talk receivers because
• 45:07
  there's obviously so many in play, and then I'll circle my thoughts. So
• 45:10
  on the we'll start with Miami. Obviously, Tyreek will be one of the
• 45:15
  highest, if not the highest one players on the slate. And if I
• 45:19
  had to hit the lock one and anybody, it would be Tyreek today could
• 45:22
  just obviously do it in so many ways. Pricing kind of soft Jalen Wattles
• 45:27
  an interesting. I mean, he's definitely gonna be popular as well, but
• 45:30
  not as popular as Tyreek. I mean Tyreek might be seventy five percent,
• 45:35
  Wattle a little under fifty. If you play two A Tyreek and Wattle,
• 45:38
  it's pretty difficult. Obviously, you're always punting tight end. Almost everyone in
• 45:43
  that build would go AJ Dillon, So just think a little stuff like that.
• 45:45
  There's enough other punt receivers that'll be on the field mixing in that.
• 45:50
  I think you could go for receivers waddle to uh Tyreek, make it work
• 45:54
  and again AJ Dillon. That's little stuff to get different in the bill.
• 45:59
  But love Tyreek waddle of good pivots, I don't know, like Braxton Burrios.
• 46:02
  There's multiple guys in these low three K range. We'll touch on.
• 46:07
  Barrios runs the most as the three receiver sets. Still don't love it though,
• 46:10
  But any touchdown from these guys in the low three K range, I'm
• 46:14
  gonna bring up multiple at the wide receiver position could break the slate. On
• 46:17
  the other side of Tennessee, we have multiple guys in the three K range
• 46:21
  besides DeAndre Hopkins, Trailing Burks is back. It was back last week,
• 46:24
  but he hardly played. It was Nick Westbrook at Keyne and Chris Moore both
• 46:29
  min price at three K. Trailing Burks is also down there at three K
• 46:32
  as well. I don't know, man like, I don't have a strong
• 46:36
  Kyler Phillips didn't even suit up. He was a scratch. I think he'll
• 46:39
  probably be more key a d Hop again, I don't really know. At
• 46:43
  the end of the day. I think a Keyne, I'm very confident,
• 46:45
  will be the number two, maybe more Trailing Burks will mix in a little
• 46:49
  bit. As the three they all suck. I mean, it's an awful
• 46:52
  offense. I don't even want to target much. But I think a Keyne
• 46:55
  is gonna be the guy that I'm gonna get the most to besides d Hop
• 47:00
  No d Hops fine, obviously they're gonna be chucking the ball a ton playing
• 47:02
  from behind still six point one k, you actually have to do something.
• 47:06
  I really don't love that too much. I'd prefer the green Bay guys.
• 47:08
  Obviously. Green Bay is a story of the late outside of Tyreek when it
• 47:13
  comes to ownership, because they're cheap and they're gonna run out pretty much.
• 47:15
  Four guys Dubbs, Jayden Reads the number two, Wix was the number three,
• 47:21
  maliek Keith was the number four, and they also have two ray two
• 47:24
  rays. I wouldn't play him at all at three K maliek Keith's gonna be
• 47:28
  one two percent. Zer mix in a little bit in my receiver four sets
• 47:31
  if you want to get different there, But it's really the Dubs, Read
• 47:35
  Wix. I think Dobbs will probably be the lowest. I don't know,
• 47:40
  Dubs and Wicks, Dubbs, Wicks and and Read will all be pretty close.
• 47:45
  I think how I lean how I rank them. Read, Dubbs Wix
• 47:52
  no strongly and they're Read is definitely my favorite, though he's had a great
• 47:54
  connection with Jordan Loved. They use a lot of pre snap motion give him
• 47:59
  some handff. So Read's my favorite. But Wicks, Stubbs, and Leek
• 48:02
  Keith would be the punt. And then on the giant side, I mean
• 48:06
  they're all free. Like this is why I keep talking about if you want
• 48:08
  to go four receivers, you want to go Tyreek Waddle Saquon to all the
• 48:14
  spend ups. There's so many cheap wide receiver punts that are gonna be mixing
• 48:16
  the matching on the field they don't project well, but only takes them falling
• 48:21
  in the box once Giants. Spot's really easy for me though, because it's
• 48:23
  been for a minute now. Hyatt, Slayton, Wendell Robinson as a three
• 48:28
  receiver set the only three I would play. My favorite. Hyatt definitely has
• 48:32
  the most upside the lowest floor because he has that deep ball the go route.
• 48:37
  He can just catch one for sixty and get there. I think it's
• 48:40
  a Wendell Robinson would be my favorite, though you talked about this man on
• 48:44
  the show for months now works out of the slot. The veto has to
• 48:47
  have some quick passes. I think Wendell would be my favorite. Rounding it
• 48:52
  all up, wrapping it up all together. Tyreek, I think lock buttoning
• 48:55
  him totally good with that's gonna read Dobbs wis. I don't know. The
• 49:02
  more I'm talking about it, I think a lot of my teams are gonna
• 49:05
  have one of these Westbrook Aknes, Barrios's, Slaton's, Hyatt's, Robinson's.
• 49:12
  Some of these punts that hopefully fall in the box, find the optimal and
• 49:15
  then allow me to spend up for Tyreek and some of these other studs.
• 49:19
  Yeah, I think I'm gonna have lineups a lot just to play off that
• 49:21
  I'm fine with, like capping Tyreek versus going all in. So I'm gonna
• 49:24
  have a lot of lineups that just leave money but play some of these random
• 49:28
  guys and just hope that they can score with them. But I'm gonna have
• 49:30
  like DeAndre Hopkins or like a Dobbs or a Read. I really like your
• 49:35
  Reid called again, you get no Aaron Jones. They're already using him as
• 49:38
  a receiver, but they use him as a guy that they can just chuck
• 49:42
  around and do end a rounds to or little trick plays and things like that.
• 49:45
  With We've seen it a lot more lately with guys like Cede Lamb.
• 49:47
  We've always seen it with Deebo all that. I like Reid and Dobbs the
• 49:52
  most there on the Giant side, it's probably the hes the chap brought them
• 49:57
  up. I probably like Hodgen's and Hyatt more than Robinson Slayton. I know
• 50:00
  Slayton's the big home run play, but there has to be a bat involved
• 50:04
  to hit home run. I'm not sure if de Veto's that. So you
• 50:06
  don't you have to have a way to get there first, and I don't
• 50:07
  know if that's gonna be the case. I like these guys a little bit
• 50:10
  more just to try and catch one close or a guy like Hyatt. I
• 50:14
  would take that chance on more just to try and feature the young guy coming
• 50:17
  up. So I don't hate that people love Slayton though, so I get
• 50:21
  it he'll be in there, like I'm just picking my favorites in the spirit
• 50:22
  of time. And then on Tennessee it's Hopkins. Don't hate the Burks call
• 50:27
  if you want to take the chance because the snaps like I'm gonna I probably
• 50:30
  separate more and him because I don't think you're gonna get them anyway. Speaking
• 50:34
  to my point earlier, but I just I would make sure and I would
• 50:37
  think of that out loud. It's gonna be between those two, and I
• 50:39
  think Burke's I would just take the chance. It's just he can catch one
• 50:42
  ball and be hurt again. And so there's always that that ends up being
• 50:45
  an issue. And then Miami's pretty obvious. It's it's Tyreek and Waddle.
• 50:50
  But maybe I end up slightly underweight Tyreek or around field and maybe a little
• 50:55
  overweight on Wattle. But like title said, I'm gonna be mixing in some
• 51:00
  of these guys in there that you know more. The Wis one has to
• 51:04
  just be a product of how everything else shakes out on the slate. Like
• 51:07
  I was talking about this in discord earlier. The more I see it,
• 51:09
  the more it does look like I just ran it. Even on our stuff.
• 51:14
  Wis is getting into fifty percent of the lineups like it just loves them,
• 51:17
  and that sound like a seven. I think his projection seven point seven,
• 51:22
  like it's not even anything serious, it's just because of what it makes
• 51:23
  work. There is ten guys we just mentioned down in that range, So
• 51:28
  if that does become a thing, there's lots of ways to get different there.
• 51:30
  And then I actually like last thing, I'll let you go Hope is
• 51:35
  like some Tua with his guys and at least one running back, because I
• 51:38
  think a lot of people are going love with his receivers and Tyreek and then
• 51:43
  getting off those guys and going to like a Dylan Barkley. So you can
• 51:45
  get different that way or somewhere set it up there. So and yeah,
• 51:49
  Wis is that dude? Like that dude? What the lately they've been doing
• 51:53
  this, or they don't do that much, or the matchup is this literally
• 51:57
  goes completely out the window on a two game. There's no way these guys
• 52:01
  can do anything. Until they do There's no way Wis can bust. He's
• 52:05
  that dude. He has to come through on this slate. Thirty eight hundred
• 52:08
  bucks, go ahead, whop you take over wide receivers? Yeah, I
• 52:12
  mean Tyreek, it's yeah, I mean, just gotta. I mean,
• 52:15
  the thing is, his ownership is so high. If you want to take
• 52:17
  a stance on him, it's like you gotta come close to just hitting that
• 52:21
  lock button on them. And just the safest source of fantasy points on the
• 52:23
  slate, just having an incredible, incredible season. So I mean, you
• 52:27
  don't really need to say much about him. But guy on the other side,
• 52:30
  Jalen Waddle, I think you're not going to be low low, don't
• 52:32
  get me wrong, but maybe a little overshadowed with with you know, Tyreek
• 52:37
  there, and at such a cheap price, I want to make sure I
• 52:39
  get a lot of Waddle as well, maybe mixing Barrios just a little bit.
• 52:46
  If I'm playing a lot of tu which I plan on doing. The
• 52:51
  packer stuff is interesting. Jaden, Red, Dobbs, Wicks all look to
• 52:54
  be solid. You know, if you just hit the optimizer, you're gonna
• 52:58
  get a lot of those guys. You know, these are the situations where,
• 53:00
  yeah, I'm gonna play these guys. You know, I'm fine playing
• 53:04
  multiples, multiple of these guys on the same team. It's just you know,
• 53:07
  forty seven hundred for Reid, five k for Dobbs, thirty eight hundred
• 53:12
  for Wicks. It's just easy to play these guys without Christian Watson in there.
• 53:15
  So definitely want exposure to all of those guys at a heavy rate.
• 53:19
  And I'm you know, not worried about, you know, how many I
• 53:22
  have on one given team. The Titans wide receivers, I think definitely the
• 53:27
  most difficult to figure out. You know, I like titles point at sixty
• 53:30
  one hundred, like he's he's got to do something and you know it's a
• 53:32
  term we use a lot on the show, but it's the truth. Sixty
• 53:36
  one he's got to show up and do something, potentially a tailing trailing game
• 53:40
  script and you know, he's appears to have a pretty good connection with Love
• 53:45
  is so sixty one hundred, you know, in those Dolphins teams, you
• 53:47
  know, want some exposure to probably like him better than Derrick Henry today.
• 53:52
  But man, it's I don't know, sixty one hundred. Like I said,
• 53:55
  he's kind of in a tier of his own wide receivers. There's like
• 53:59
  no one else really priced around him at all. He's just in that little
• 54:00
  section all by himself, which is going to force him to get ownership,
• 54:05
  like right, just because of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
• 54:07
  definitely gonna happen because he's projected higher than like guys like Dobbs and stuff,
• 54:10
  so he will just you're right, yeah, I mean when people run teams,
• 54:14
  he's gonna get ownership for that reason. But this is the you know,
• 54:16
  the most difficult wide receiver group to figure out. The Titans, you
• 54:21
  know, Hopkins, you know Burks, what the hell is going on with
• 54:23
  him? Westbrook A Kine three k you know, maybe a little bit of
• 54:27
  those guys, not not too much, but man, these uh some with
• 54:31
  the Giants, I don't know, it's got to be like mental with me
• 54:35
  today with these giants. But I just I like these guys because they're definitely
• 54:37
  coming in going to be lower on than the Packers stuff. There's no doubt
• 54:40
  about it. And you got three guys super cheap Wondale Robinson, Slayton Jalen
• 54:45
  Hyatt. Hyatt's by far my favorite, though, I mean he went six
• 54:49
  for one hundred. They're forcing him to the ball last week. He's their
• 54:52
  young guy. He gets the deep stuff too. I think he had like
• 54:53
  a forty forty yard catch last game. I really like Hyat today. I
• 54:58
  think Hya it's a great play at before fine getting some slate. And we've
• 55:01
  kind of been riding Wondale Robinson basically all season, I mean since he came
• 55:05
  back. I think he was injured early on, and we kind of talked
• 55:07
  about him as the guy they just want to force it to and you know
• 55:10
  they do that five three, four, five targets. Those aren't massive numbers,
• 55:15
  I get it. But he always has something and it's always like the
• 55:17
  scripted plays to get him the ball type stuff, which on a two game
• 55:22
  slate that's very valuable. If they're running plays to make sure a guy gets
• 55:24
  the ball, you want that so in on him as well. But yeah,
• 55:30
  I mean there's a lot of wide receivers to play. In terms of
• 55:34
  the cheapest high it stands out for me for sure. Yeah. One thing
• 55:37
  I'm noticing a lot of in the optimizer too, is a T and Barkley
• 55:42
  just go together everywhere, no matter what. A lot of like the Derrick
• 55:45
  Henry either joins that or or filters over to the Love lineups. And realistically
• 55:52
  that's interesting because it's in an optimizer, you know, you see it again.
• 55:55
  It goes by projection, but in reality it should kind of be set
• 56:00
  the other way, like I would want to see, like I want Henry
• 56:01
  to somewhat be If it's gonna be Henry, then I think it means they're
• 56:06
  gonna be up, and he's gonna be scoring early on and getting luckier.
• 56:07
  Maybe a turnover happens early and then they get in the box and then something
• 56:12
  else and next thing you know that that's what it's cause and effect. Then
• 56:15
  now all of a sudden we get to a coming back the other way with
• 56:17
  his guys, and it's just not showing up like that again in these dry
• 56:21
  runs. So I would keep an eye on that when you're building out the
• 56:22
  lineups as well. I know it's not a wide receiver point, but I
• 56:25
  was looking at that well Hoop was going through it. I think again,
• 56:29
  how you set things up. Tonight is going to be the key more than
• 56:30
  anything else versus just the diamond in the rough play. You'll need everybody to
• 56:35
  score well or someone to come through to make it happen for you. But
• 56:37
  going back to wide receiver like Wis, if you get Wis in there,
• 56:40
  because he makes everything work, but what he's making work is like the stone
• 56:45
  chalk every position that's gonna be again, how you winning a twenty dollars with
• 56:49
  five hundred kmf top with that? So I just I try and keep all
• 56:51
  these things in my mind as I'm looking to build out and go against the
• 56:54
  rest of the grain on the slate title anything else to add on that?
• 56:58
  If not, let's do a tight and defenses. I guess you could mention,
• 57:02
  but we're no kickers tonight and defenses. I mean we tied in some
• 57:06
  of everything we talked about here on Showdown slates. You're getting the kickers in
• 57:09
  there, but for the most part, you're tying in these main skill positions
• 57:13
  and going from there. Give us your thoughts at tight end defense. If
• 57:15
  you want to add kickers for the Showdown players, go ahead. I'll add
• 57:21
  hoop touch on kickers. I haven't even looked at anything like that. As
• 57:23
  far as tight ends, I mean, there's really only I guess. I
• 57:28
  can't say just two guys because Bellinger's in play at two eight, but Chig
• 57:31
  and Tucker Craft are going to get most of the ownership at this position.
• 57:36
  I mean, there is no musk Grave. That's another Packers' injury that it's
• 57:40
  been like that. It was out last week as well, so it hasn't
• 57:43
  changed. But another pass catcher, one of their top guys. That's how
• 57:46
  it's. Tucker Craft is actually good. I mean, he's athletic, he
• 57:49
  can turn off field. Jordan Love likes him a bit. I think I
• 57:52
  prefer him to Chig because I expect Chig to be a little higher owned at
• 57:57
  the end of the day, though I might just ex Bellinger. If Bellinger
• 58:01
  was out, Cager, I guess maybe you would be in the pool,
• 58:05
  but I might just cross all these guys off. Just play Chick, just
• 58:07
  play Tucker Craft. Even in my one to fifty like this, tight ends
• 58:10
  awful. It's completely awful. So that's my take there. As far as
• 58:15
  defenses, I don't know. I guess because on a two game slate and
• 58:19
  with how much randomness there is like, probably I should just play the ownership
• 58:22
  game. Of course, the Packers against the Giants in Miami against Tennessee like
• 58:27
  their big favorites. The offensive suck on the other side, but defense is
• 58:30
  so freaking random and we see it all the time. So why not on
• 58:34
  a two game slate go to some Tennessee, go to some Giants and just
• 58:37
  hope and you get leverage off of that way. So what Giants and Tennessee
• 58:42
  probably gonna be sub fifteen percent both. I mean Tennessee is gonna be way
• 58:47
  down there. I'll probably be overweight on them. Not like I'm fading the
• 58:51
  other two teams, but it's probably gonna be My stance. Could play some
• 58:54
  chalk your lineups, making Nixon a low and D maybe the highest scoring D
• 58:59
  today score six and you just get lucky it's one of those two. So
• 59:01
  that's my take. There feels like that too, Michael says, I always
• 59:05
  supporting the show. We appreciate you. Wide receiver is the biggest key today.
• 59:07
  Agree. I also think like if you can get spin it around a
• 59:10
  little bit at positions like tight end and defense where there are one es positions,
• 59:14
  meaning there's only one that you have to play and you get forced into
• 59:16
  it, because that can really break a slate like this when a lot a
• 59:20
  lot of the other stuff feels pretty safe or pretty standard, like quarterback Love
• 59:23
  and Tua makes sense, running back, the Barcleys, the Miami guys,
• 59:27
  Dylan and whatever from there, tight end is tough to figure out. Defense
• 59:31
  is always tough. There's only four to pick from though at least and then
• 59:35
  wide receiver if you give the pass to Tyreek. It's two spots that you
• 59:38
  got to siphon through and figure out and cycle through a bunch of guys that
• 59:42
  you can fit in there. So definitely agree with that, and it depends
• 59:45
  on how you set up I think roster construction as a whole. But like
• 59:47
  I love that one call that you had their title on Craft. I'm seeing
• 59:52
  like Chig and guys like that get pumped out a bunch who I also like.
• 59:55
  But I'm just saying from a perspective of this slate and just thinking about
• 59:59
  it. If everyone's gonna be on Wis, Reed, Dobbs, all those
• 1:00:02
  guys, and they're all gonna have ownership in their own right, but especially
• 1:00:06
  WIX. If it does end up being a thing, now you can just
• 1:00:08
  push that over to the tight ends spot where you have to burn it up
• 1:00:10
  anyway, and just hope it's him. And there was a lot of good
• 1:00:13
  conversation on him coming in to the since Musgrave's gone down, essentially in saying,
• 1:00:17
  it's kind of like a like what we saw with Dalton, Kincaid,
• 1:00:21
  Dawson, Knox came back, Yesterard, but they're still running a bunch of
• 1:00:22
  routes for Kincaid, he's still getting open, getting more like slot routes,
• 1:00:27
  things like that where you can see him still catch a few balls that could
• 1:00:30
  come in handy today with a guy like Craft, and you could avoid again
• 1:00:32
  do what I said earlier, flip it now to a guy you probably feel
• 1:00:36
  better about it. I gave the de veto Barkley, Bellinger or cagor conversation.
• 1:00:40
  You could go love Dylan and Craft and cut out all those receivers for
• 1:00:46
  green Bay. That's super super sneaky in a sense because now you can get
• 1:00:50
  like Wattle, Tyreek and somebody else and you don't have a green Bay receiver
• 1:00:55
  while having the running back with his quarterback that not as many people do more
• 1:00:59
  onto they do it the tight end all that. I just look for little
• 1:01:02
  things like that. But go ahead, hoop, I'll kick it over to
• 1:01:05
  you before we get out of here. Any other thoughts here at tight end,
• 1:01:07
  kicker defense, anything else you want to add? Oh? Man,
• 1:01:12
  the the tight end stuff's tough because you got two guys, obviously, Craft
• 1:01:15
  and Chig. And I just looked at Smithe because I'm like, all right,
• 1:01:20
  if I'm playing a lot of tu you know, I want to get
• 1:01:22
  some smife. But holy man, does that look brutal. I mean it's
• 1:01:25
  just it's nothing. I mean literally, just like nothing real cardio king,
• 1:01:30
  yeah right, and the two guys. He must be a really good blocker,
• 1:01:32
  right, yeah, I mean he just does nothing out there. So
• 1:01:37
  yeah, maybe it's just Craft and Cheg maybe a little ballinger that sort of
• 1:01:43
  thing. But it's a man. It's tough to fill that position, There's
• 1:01:46
  no doubt about it. Yeah we got yeah, we got a showdown cores,
• 1:01:50
  uh, and then all full content for the two games. Some of
• 1:01:53
  the cores are already up. Is you know what I mean? Is that
• 1:01:55
  easy? I always tell people in the discord, I guess it's easier to
• 1:01:59
  ask the question. I was teasing them, But I use my gym.
• 1:02:00
  Everyone thinks I'm too mean, but I use like the gym thing. You
• 1:02:04
  get there, you want me to lift the weights for you too, Like
• 1:02:06
  you're in the gym, you got all the stuff at your fingertips. It's
• 1:02:08
  actually already up. A lot of the core report is up for tonight.
• 1:02:12
  We're doing the Tennessee Miami game because that's what DraftKings decided is the slate they
• 1:02:16
  want to put the most money towards. So already on the site. Good
• 1:02:20
  to go for that. My slate plan is up for the two Gamer.
• 1:02:22
  My core is up for the two Gamer. The projections are up with the
• 1:02:25
  latest ownership, and we'll get everything updated further and update in the discord as
• 1:02:30
  we get closer. But there's a ton of content already up and the projections
• 1:02:34
  are good that you can start messing with. That's what we're using on this
• 1:02:37
  show as we're talking through it. Carry on, who go ahead? Yeah,
• 1:02:39
  So the tight end position is tough, and then defense like is bad.
• 1:02:44
  You know, if we don't like the Giants, we don't like the
• 1:02:45
  Titans. Like defense just so random. We just see it again. Last
• 1:02:49
  night the Eagles got their ass kicked and and what happened. They pick up
• 1:02:52
  the ball and run in the N zone and get a touchdown. There's literally
• 1:02:54
  one play. We talk about it a lot, just one play with like
• 1:02:57
  wide receivers and running backs and stuff like that. But truly is the case
• 1:03:00
  with defenses, because once they score a defensive touchdown, any of these defenses,
• 1:03:05
  they're likely the defense that you need on the slate. So fine playing
• 1:03:09
  whoever at defense tonight, you know, definitely more worried about what I'm doing
• 1:03:13
  at the other positions. And then for kickers for showdown, I really like,
• 1:03:19
  what's the what's the dude's name for the Dolphins Sanders? Yeah, Sanders
• 1:03:22
  in on Sanders for sure, And man, how incredible is that Dallas guy.
• 1:03:25
  I mean, that's you haven't seen that in a while, Like Justin
• 1:03:30
  Tucker esque, like Dure just goes out there unfhazed and just nailing fifty sixty
• 1:03:35
  yarders like right down the pipe with extra yardage behind it. Just incredible,
• 1:03:38
  man, incredible. Yeah, love to see that. I got Justin says,
• 1:03:43
  my work blocks it. That's brutal. We got to get that solved.
• 1:03:45
  But it's the way it goes. They might think we're all gambling and
• 1:03:49
  all that, And I'm just I'm not a personal trainer, but if I
• 1:03:52
  was a personal DFS trainer, I'm more motivation and heavy speaking to make you
• 1:03:57
  get after it than actually just giving you the answers. I always want you
• 1:04:00
  to figure them out yourself. We talk about it. I live it for
• 1:04:01
  sure, all of us do here. But we try and get you to
• 1:04:03
  truly build your own process so that you don't have to rely on just one
• 1:04:08
  thing that's kind of there as a baseline. I think you should always read
• 1:04:12
  slate plans and check player pools and see all that stuff to find out where
• 1:04:15
  others are at and get ideas. But that's why also why we try and
• 1:04:17
  make these shows about thinking through the slate from a perspective of what everybody else
• 1:04:23
  is doing and how we can apply our knowledge and thoughts towards using it that
• 1:04:26
  way to be better at what we're doing, to try and get a leg
• 1:04:29
  up and get to the top. And we've done a lot of that lately
• 1:04:30
  and get into the top. So one thing we forgot, boys was the
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  free memberships. The two free memberships. What's the best game? Who wants
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  three right now title on this slate as we await the fun here, give
• 1:04:56
  us your final lots title and then I'll kick it to Hoop and we'll get
• 1:04:59
  out of here. Yeah, it's definitely an interesting one. I mean,
• 1:05:01
  when pretty much there's two quarterbacks, people want to play, two tight ends.
• 1:05:04
  People want to play. Yeah, there goes what is that like a
• 1:05:06
  eight nine second delay to YouTube. I'll get them. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:14
  tight end position, quarterback position really only especially tight end really only two guys
• 1:05:18
  Bellinger. Maybe I'll include a little bit so you could go three there.
• 1:05:23
  I don't really think I'll be playing the Veto maybe not Levis. So if
• 1:05:27
  you're on that path too, again, that's the chalky route. You got
• 1:05:30
  to get different. Gotta lead money on the table overstack a game that's not
• 1:05:33
  the Packers, because I think that's the one spot if you go love Read,
• 1:05:38
  Wis Duh or craft like, you feel like you might be getting different.
• 1:05:42
  But they all project pretty well, they're all pretty cheap, and you
• 1:05:44
  can still feel like good stuff around that. So lease some money, mix
• 1:05:47
  in some sub ten fifteen percent player and it's not necessarily like Showdown where you
• 1:05:53
  have to have a game script in mind. But hey, if you think
• 1:05:56
  the Packers Giants game's awful, load up on the other game, you can
• 1:05:59
  make a two game almost a one game slates. I feel like that's kind
• 1:06:01
  of I can't remember Scirrel's exact lineup, but I feel like he did that
• 1:06:04
  as well. We only had like one or two pieces of one game loaded
• 1:06:09
  up the other game, and we have a thirty seven total in the forty
• 1:06:12
  five total and one we have a fourteen point spread in about a seven point
• 1:06:15
  spread. So you can totally see loading up on one game fading the other
• 1:06:18
  outside of a couple of pieces, one two pieces, and that's different as
• 1:06:23
  well. So yeah, that's all, that's all. I look at them,
• 1:06:25
  these slates. How can I get different? So when I win,
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  through these twenty threes, I got one, I got one. If I
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  put in there. Yeah, give one to him. So like he put
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• 1:07:11
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• 1:07:13
  it goes with a play on words we had from the other day. But
• 1:07:15
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  No? I mean, you know, it's fun, fun, little
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