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Sharri | 11 November · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry.
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Speaker 3: Thanks Andrew. Well, good evening.
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Speaker 4: Exclusive tonight, We've got freshly unearthed footage that shows Kevin
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Speaker 4: Rudd calling Donald Trump a village idiot. This as his
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Speaker 4: deleted tweets becomes a big story in New York. Peter
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Speaker 4: Dutton searches ahead in news poll. He's almost in a
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Speaker 4: winning position. Well, does this mean that Albanezy could lead
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Speaker 4: a one term government? Also full coverage tonight of the
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Speaker 4: Amsterdam pogrom.
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Speaker 3: A victim would join.
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Speaker 4: Me live on the show, plus the vice president of
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Speaker 4: the Anti Defamation League who was on the ground.
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Speaker 3: As the horror unfolded.
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Speaker 4: Also on the show tonight Steve Price, Joe Hildebrand, Cameron Milner,
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Speaker 4: and Koshergada. And I'm going to speak with Kosher about
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Speaker 4: how there are now reports Kamala Harris had to pay
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Speaker 4: millions of dollars for celebrities to turn up to her rallies.
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Speaker 4: But first tonight, it's Remembrance Day today, when we honor
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Speaker 4: our fallen soldiers who fought for our freedoms and our
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Speaker 4: survival on this precise day, this sacred day, the very
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Speaker 4: values our allied soldiers sacrificed their lives for are at
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Speaker 4: grave risk as Islamic fundamentalists and woke leftists join forces
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Speaker 4: to weaken Western civilization and to rip away at the
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Speaker 4: fabric that holds our society together. The warning signs and
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Speaker 4: scenes of violence that we saw before World War II
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Speaker 4: are now sadly reoccurring, and the media is complicit while
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Speaker 4: veterans and survivors despair at what our world.
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Speaker 3: Is coming to.
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Speaker 4: On Thursday night local time our time Friday, there was
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Speaker 4: a pogrom in Amsterdam. The story has been massively underplayed
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Speaker 4: in mainstream media outlets, and both the lack of coverage
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Speaker 4: and the response to the event itself exposes untold hypocrisy.
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Speaker 4: And if you missed this story, and who could blame
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Speaker 4: you because there hasn't been much coverage.
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Speaker 3: Here's what happened.
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Speaker 4: There was a wave of extreme violence from local Muslim
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Speaker 4: gangs towards Jews after a soccer match between Maccabi Tel
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Speaker 4: Aviv and the most popular Dutch team in Amsterdam. Master
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Speaker 4: attackers shouted pro Palestinian and anti Jewish slogans while they
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Speaker 4: beat and chased Jews with knives. As you're about to see,
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Speaker 4: footage shows one Israeli yelling I'm not Jewish, as he
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Speaker 4: was beaten and a warning this is distressing. Jews were
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Speaker 4: spat on, and footage shows Jews being thrown in the river.
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Speaker 4: Others jumped into canals to escape the attackers. One Jew
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Speaker 4: has told how he spoke Arabic so that the Muslims
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Speaker 4: would stop their violence against him. They wouldn't hear him
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Speaker 4: speaking Hebrew. He then later rescued many others. We know
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Speaker 4: this because of the testimony of victims, but also because,
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Speaker 4: like on October seven, these Hamas supporters filmed their hate
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Speaker 4: crimes against Jews. Again a warning, this video is distressing, sermons.
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Speaker 3: Children.
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Speaker 4: Police reportedly sat back and watched. They didn't help the
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Speaker 4: Tel Aviv fans as they were attacked. A network of
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Speaker 4: taxi and uber drivers are also reported to have helped
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Speaker 4: the gang's locate Jews. One father from London, who did
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Speaker 4: try and break up a gang attack, was reportedly hospitalized.
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Speaker 3: He was punched, his.
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Speaker 4: Nose was split and bleeding, his glasses broken. When someone
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Speaker 4: pointed out that the man was British, not Israeli, one
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Speaker 4: of the attackers said, yes, but he helped a Jew.
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Speaker 4: The Islamic attackers demanded to see passpots they were hunting
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Speaker 4: in search of Jews, and the attackers trailed on scooters
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Speaker 4: or in taxis.
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Speaker 3: There was no quarter of.
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Speaker 4: Amsterdam that was safe. Israelis were abandoned and left to
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Speaker 4: fend for them. Jews were ordered to stay in lockdown
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Speaker 4: in their hotel rooms and not wear anything that would
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Speaker 4: identify their religion. Now, the Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and
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Speaker 4: Yahoo even sent rescue planes to Amsterdam, and more than
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Speaker 4: two thousand Jews were flown to Israel on emergency flights.
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Speaker 4: There were initial reports that sixty two people had been arrested,
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Speaker 4: but it turns out that none of those were related
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Speaker 4: to the pogrom. Conservative Party leader Gerd Wielders said, and
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Speaker 4: I quote, I am speechless. Amsterdam police just confirmed that
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Speaker 4: no one has been arrested during the Islamic Jew hunt
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Speaker 4: in Amsterdam Thursday night. All arrests have been made before
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Speaker 4: and during the soccer match, and not during the pogram.
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Speaker 4: Now this is Israeli's just supporting their soccer team in
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Speaker 4: a western city in twenty twenty four, when we're at
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Speaker 4: the peak of woke ideology and progressive politics. This pogrom
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Speaker 4: also took place on the eighty sixth anniversary of kristor Nacht,
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Speaker 4: the Night of Broken Glass, when there was a coordinated
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Speaker 4: wave of Nazi violence and attacks against Jews. It took
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Speaker 4: place in Amsterdam, on the same streets where Anne Frank lived, hid,
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Speaker 4: and was murdered. Her legacy cannot be forgotten, along with
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Speaker 4: all of those who served and sacrificed for us, who
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Speaker 4: we remember today on Remembrance Day.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 4: One Dutch survivor of the Holocaust, Eddie Boas, told my
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Speaker 4: colleague Caroline Marcus today that the scenes were reminiscent of
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Speaker 4: the Nazi era, and he says he fears the aggression
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Speaker 4: on our streets aren't far off.
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Speaker 6: It makes me more than say it. It makes me crankly.
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Speaker 4: Now when we reflect on World War II and the
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Speaker 4: years that preceded it, No one excuses the violence by
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Speaker 4: claiming there was a reason for it, an excuse. We
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Speaker 4: recognize unequivocally that it was abhorrent racism and the messages
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Speaker 4: never again. Yet right now, as we're witnessing pogroms and
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Speaker 4: persecution and racism, we are hearing excuses. Mainstream media outlets
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Speaker 4: who should know better, have excused this violence by showing
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Speaker 4: footage of one or two Israelis taking down a Palestinian
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Speaker 4: flag Wednesday.
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Speaker 7: Social media videos verified by Sky News Joe maccabee Tel
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Speaker 7: Aviv fans tearing down a Palestinian flags, Well.
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Speaker 4: That was Sky News UK and Channel nine. Here was
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Speaker 4: no better.
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Speaker 7: The violence on the streets of Amsterdam unfolding after israel
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Speaker 7: football fans were filmed chanting anti Arab slogans and pulling
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Speaker 7: down Palestinian flags from buildings.
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Speaker 4: Now, firstly, surely it doesn't need to be said that
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Speaker 4: one person taking down a flag doesn't justify the lynching
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Speaker 4: and hunting down of dozens, if.
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Speaker 3: Not hundreds of Jews.
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Speaker 4: But far more crucially, the flag and the chants are
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Speaker 4: simply not the reason for the wave of violence in
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Speaker 4: Amsterdam because the Jew hunt was planned well in advance.
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Speaker 4: Extremists plotted the attack days earlier on apps like Telegram
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Speaker 4: and WhatsApp, and we have those messages. Dutch authorities have
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Speaker 4: also confirmed that Mosside Intelligence, that's Israeli intelligence, warned them
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Speaker 4: about the plans for violence ahead of time, and that
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Speaker 4: they did nothing with the warning and attempts to paint
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Speaker 4: this says some protests again Israel are also utterly inaccurate.
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Speaker 3: Let there be no misunderstanding.
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Speaker 4: These thugs were not trying to help Palestinians. They were
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Speaker 4: hunting down Jews. Its persecution, its racism, its a pogrom,
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Speaker 4: and the media.
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Speaker 3: Claims the violence is justified.
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Speaker 4: It's precisely what the mob at the Opera House on
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Speaker 4: October nine last year promised to do.
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Speaker 3: Where's the Jews?
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Speaker 4: And we were told there was no problem with that
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Speaker 4: chant because it wasn't gas the Jews. Well, the pro
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Speaker 4: Palestinian mobs have been telling us this entire time what
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Speaker 4: they intend to do the world over.
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Speaker 3: They promised a global into fada.
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Speaker 4: We're now witnessing violence erupt in every western city in
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Speaker 4: the globe. This is the point where it's gone too far.
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Speaker 4: Now I've grown up Jewish, but I've never truly understood
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Speaker 4: how nineteen thirties Europe could happen, or how the pograms
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Speaker 4: in northeastern Europe in the early nineteen hundreds could happen
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Speaker 4: either or in Spain in the fourteen hundreds, or in
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Speaker 4: the Roman Empire some two thousand.
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Speaker 3: Years ago before Christ.
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Speaker 4: But now, for the first time in my life, I
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Speaker 4: do I understand how it happens. Law enforcement sits back,
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Speaker 4: politicians sit back, the media condones it, and the anti
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Speaker 4: Semitism erupts. It's allowed to fester and spread wider until
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Speaker 4: it becomes a major movement where figureheads arise. That is
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Speaker 4: how it happens, and we're following this recipe right now
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Speaker 4: in dozens of cities around the world.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 4: I believe it's not too late to stop it, but
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Speaker 4: we need strong leaders who are prepared to say that
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Speaker 4: they won't allow this to happen under their watch, who
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Speaker 4: are prepared to enforce the law. If we don't have
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Speaker 4: these leaders, then I ask how many planes will Israel
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Speaker 4: have to send? How many planes will Israel have to
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Speaker 4: send to Australia, to Europe, to the United States? How
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Speaker 4: many planes will Israel have to send to rescue all
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Speaker 4: of us from this violence that's erupting and that law
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Speaker 4: enforcement isn't doing anything about. Fundamentalist is Lammists who don't
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Speaker 4: stand for the values that our veterans fought for of freedom,
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Speaker 4: peace and makeship are given a free pass by the police.
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Speaker 4: They're getting away scott free, emboldened by the radical left.
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Speaker 4: Our veterans, our soldiers, our fallen who we remember today
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Speaker 4: would surely be horrified that the Western world is crumbling
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Speaker 4: before our very eyes. I'm going to get to other
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Speaker 4: topics in the moment. There's a lot to talk about Trump.
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Speaker 4: Our exclusive on Kevin Rudd News Pulvit. Now, just let's
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Speaker 4: stay on this and let's bring in live from Berlin.
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Speaker 4: Senior vice president of the Anti Defamation League, Marina Rosenberg. Marina,
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Speaker 4: thank you for your time. You flew to Amsterdam when
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Speaker 4: this violence unfolded. Can you tell us some of the
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Speaker 4: horrific things that happened.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, Sherry, But first of all, thank you for
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Speaker 8: having me and thank you for your words. You said
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Speaker 8: it right. What we saw in Amsterdam Thursday evening was
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Speaker 8: a modern day for grown against Jews. There is absolutely
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Speaker 8: no other way to put it. And this is exactly
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Speaker 8: how glows globalized. The Intifada looks like. And it happened
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Speaker 8: in Amsterdam, but it could happen here in Berlin, it
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Speaker 8: could happen in Sydney, it could happen in New York.
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Speaker 8: The moment that our societies are normalizing anti Semitism, are
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Speaker 8: allowing for all terrorists manifestations in their cities with flags
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Speaker 8: of Hamas and Hibala, with calls to globalize the Antifada
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Speaker 8: and resistance in any way, so we shouldn't be surprised
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Speaker 8: of what we saw Thursday night. Now let me be clear,
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Speaker 8: we know what happened because we saw the videos that
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Speaker 8: the attackers themselves put on social media when they hunt Jews,
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Speaker 8: and they themselves were using this term in their WhatsApp groups.
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Speaker 8: And this was a coordinated attack, This was not scontaneous.
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Speaker 8: We heard of people that were there that they were persecuted,
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Speaker 8: they were attacked, they were beaten. There were people that
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Speaker 8: were asked to show their passports to show their nationality.
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Speaker 8: The attackers ask are you Jewish? And there's a video
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Speaker 8: on social media of an Ukrainian citizen crying for his
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Speaker 8: life saying I'm not Jewish, I'm not Jewish.
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Speaker 3: And this is.
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Speaker 8: Eighty six years after Kristen Lach, the grown that happened
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Speaker 8: here in Germany and in Austria where Jews were killed
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Speaker 8: and arrested. But this is not just unacceptable. This is
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Speaker 8: time for leaders to lead, to stop just talking about
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Speaker 8: it and condemning it, and to take real actions.
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Speaker 3: We're in Rozenberg.
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Speaker 4: I really appreciate your time because we're asking, as you say,
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Speaker 4: this violence rapt in cities right across the world. We
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Speaker 4: during need strong ladyship, as you just said, we need
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Speaker 4: governments to take this seriously. Marina, thank you very much
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Speaker 4: for your time. Thank you, Sharon, and a victim of
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Speaker 4: those attacks will join me later in the show.
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Speaker 3: He's a soccer fan.
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Speaker 4: He tells me about how the police did nothing, didn't
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Speaker 4: even get out a police vehicle. But now let's turn
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Speaker 4: to Kevin Rudd. We can Tonight exclusively reveal freshly unearthed
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Speaker 4: footage of Kevin Rudd calling Donald Trump a village idiot. Now,
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Speaker 4: Rudd is already dealing with headlines in the New York
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Speaker 4: Times no less about why he deleted his tweets calling
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Speaker 4: Trump a traitor.
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Speaker 3: But now there are further.
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Speaker 4: Damaging comments that he's made in the past about Donald Trump.
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Speaker 9: Have a look in the last four years, has been
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Speaker 9: run by a village idiot, competent international state craft and
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Speaker 9: the United States increasingly incompetent and international state craft under.
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Speaker 4: Trump, And those two comments were edited together called him
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Speaker 4: a village idiot, and then he said that the United
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Speaker 4: States under Trump was incompetent.
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Speaker 3: He also was caught on film mocking Trump.
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Speaker 10: I stand by what I wrote then that was in
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Speaker 10: a pre Trump world. I hope to publish again soon,
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Speaker 10: hopefully early next year, the Future of US China Relations
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Speaker 10: under President Trump, and then I owned the subtitle will
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Speaker 10: be a call for a new tremendous piece of very big,
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Speaker 10: beautiful Mara Lago chocolate cake. That's the working title. Any
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Speaker 10: other suggestions I'd greatly receive.
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Speaker 4: You wouldn't hear Kevin Wright speaking about any other United
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Speaker 4: States president like that. In other comments, he also claimed
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Speaker 4: that Trump was in love with dictators.
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Speaker 11: Have a look, but the underpinnings of it was still
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Speaker 11: incoherent because Trump himself was incoherent, and he waxed and
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Speaker 11: wane from being in love with dictators to not knowing
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Speaker 11: what he wanted from dictators now.
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Speaker 4: Rodd's poor judgment in making those comments in the first
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Speaker 4: place is only matched by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's poor
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Speaker 4: judgment in appointing Rudd in the first place. Rudd failed
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Speaker 4: to recognize that the MAGA movement wasn't going away and
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Speaker 4: that Trump could be president once again, while Albineazi knew
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Speaker 4: full well that Rudd had trashed the former president, but
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Speaker 4: appointed him anyway to our most important ambassadorship, our man
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Speaker 4: in Washington. Now, business is across Australia right now will
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Speaker 4: be rightly worrying about whether we're going to be hit
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Speaker 4: with the ten percent tariffs that Trump plans to impose
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Speaker 4: on countries around the world. And they'd be even more
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Speaker 4: worried because is Rudd really the best person to make
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Speaker 4: the case that Australia should be exempt when it comes
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Speaker 4: to dealing with Donald Trump? Now, as The Knightly editor
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Speaker 4: Chris Dare writs, loose lipped Rudd is so arrogant actually
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Speaker 4: thinks he can walk back every insult ever delivered without
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Speaker 4: about Trump and get away with it.
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Speaker 3: Well he can't. No one's going to forget.
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Speaker 4: And the widespread media coverage now that he's deleting his
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Speaker 4: comments is only amplifying the devastating remarks he made.
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Speaker 3: They're now being.
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Speaker 4: Repeated in the media over and over again. Well to discuss,
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Speaker 4: let's bring in Sky News host Steve Price and contributor
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Speaker 4: Joe Heldebrand.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 4: Steve Christor also made the very good point in his
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Speaker 4: article that probably Anthony Albinezi and Penny Wong actually agree
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Speaker 4: with everything Kevin Rudd said about Trump in the past.
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Speaker 12: Well, they probably do. I mean, nothing surprises me about Kevin.
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Speaker 12: I mean he called me a gutless coward, which is
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Speaker 12: clearly defometry and he wanted it published in an open
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Speaker 12: letter in the news limited papers around the country. So
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Speaker 12: it's all going to come back to haunt him and
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Speaker 12: people will find more and more examples you have brilliantly
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Speaker 12: done of things he said in the past. Now, Donald Trump,
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Speaker 12: I think we know one thing about him. He's a
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Speaker 12: relationship guy. I mean Joe Hockey went and played golf
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Speaker 12: with him, deliberately lost and we managed to keep tariffs
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Speaker 12: of things like steal and aluminum. I mean, Kevin Rud's
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Speaker 12: not going to get that sort of treatment. The own
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Speaker 12: goal by Anthony Albanezi and appointing Kevin Rudd was probably
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Speaker 12: as bad as Tony Abbott and the knighthood for Prince Philip.
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Speaker 12: I mean it's almost it's worse than that, because this
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Speaker 12: is economically going to be very difficult for Australia, much
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Speaker 12: worse exactly.
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Speaker 4: You know, we are national security, our trade the US
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Speaker 4: is important for so many reasons. But Joe hild run
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Speaker 4: these comments, these new comments that we've just played tonight,
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Speaker 4: calling Trump a village.
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Speaker 3: Idiot, I mean, that's a new level of low from Rudd.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's interesting. Donald Trump, or the election of Donald Trump,
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Speaker 6: is actually schooling a whole bunch of the sort of,
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Speaker 6: shall we say, the narcissistic smug left in ways that
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Speaker 6: I think are incredibly illuminating and incredibly helpful to those
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Speaker 6: of us who would like to see them taught a
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Speaker 6: lesson and put back in their box. Now, it has
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Speaker 6: to be remembered that when Kevin Rudd was made ambassador
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Speaker 6: to the US, part of the reason for that was
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Speaker 6: to get him off Twitter. Was to get him to
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Speaker 6: shut up, stopped calling free Royal commission into news corps,
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Speaker 6: stopped slagging off everybody didn't like settling old scores. And
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Speaker 6: I can promise you that was very much part of
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Speaker 6: the thinking in booting him over there. He would have
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Speaker 6: to be quite literally diplomatic. The fact that he didn't
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Speaker 6: scrub those tweets at the time, I think speaks to
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Speaker 6: a level of perhaps arrogance and complacency. I don't think
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Speaker 6: Trump had even announced his renomination at the time that
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Speaker 6: these comments were made, And that goes to another piece
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Speaker 6: of I suppose, you know, elite lefty arrogance, and this
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Speaker 6: is something goes back to the first thing I wrote
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Speaker 6: after Biden was elected, which was all these people celebrating
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Speaker 6: as though it was all over, it was never going
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Speaker 6: to come back again. I'm like, you think those seventy
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Speaker 6: million plus voters is the second highest turnout for anyone
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Speaker 6: in US presidential history. They're just going to go away now,
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Speaker 6: that's it, that's all. They're beaten. And you had all
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Speaker 6: these lefties in Australia and in America, these urban, elite,
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Speaker 6: upper middle class, tertiary educated, smartest people in the room.
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Speaker 6: And this is another thing that it's exposed. Oh, we're
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Speaker 6: so much smarter than you. Yori, just an idiot. Oh
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Speaker 6: he's gone forever. Everything's fine. And they clearly had never
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Speaker 6: actually contemplated the fact that this guy could come back
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Speaker 6: and be their worst nightmare. They've clearly never seen the
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Speaker 6: sequel to an action.
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Speaker 3: For you, it was never going away.
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Speaker 4: But just before we move on from right, one of
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Speaker 4: the most egregious things as well is that he actually
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Speaker 4: took a media outlet to the Press Council because he
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Speaker 4: was so outraged about the reports that he was going
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Speaker 4: to be or was being considered for the job of
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Speaker 4: the next ambassador in Washington, and it was all true.
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Speaker 3: It was all true.
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Speaker 4: Unbelievable. Now let's have a look at the news poll today.
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Speaker 4: The Coalition has received of Peter Dutton a major boost
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Speaker 4: because the primary for the Coalition has now lifted to
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Speaker 4: forty percent. Peter Dutton is also closing on Anthony Albanezi
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Speaker 4: in the better Prime Minister pole, jumping four points. Now,
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Speaker 4: see if the Coalition needs a primary of at least
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Speaker 4: forty percent, probably forty one percent to be in a winning.
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Speaker 3: Position, but it looks like, judging.
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Speaker 4: By the momentum over the past year, Peter Dutton is
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Speaker 4: slowly inching the.
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Speaker 12: Slow and steady. And the point about it is that
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Speaker 12: he's now in a position where he can say, in
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Speaker 12: an election campaign to every Australian do you feel better
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Speaker 12: off now than you did three years ago? Which is
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Speaker 12: the line that Donald Trump used to get elected in
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Speaker 12: the United States. And of course he answer to that
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Speaker 12: question is no. And so you've got now Peter Dutton
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Speaker 12: in a inner position where he's competitive. I mean, I
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Speaker 12: don't think anybody the Coalition included and Peter Dutton particularly
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Speaker 12: are getting ahead of themselves. They know there's got a
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Speaker 12: hell of a lot of work still to do, but
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Speaker 12: Peter Dutton now has the perfect opportunity. You've got to
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Speaker 12: fight this election on policies, not on past record wards.
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Speaker 12: So he's going to fight it on cost of living,
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Speaker 12: cost of living immigration in particular, that's the other issue
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Speaker 12: that people are really upset about, and of course energy
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Speaker 12: policy were nuclear thrown into the mix. So I think
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Speaker 12: Anthony Albanezi, after a horror couple of weeks where he said,
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Speaker 12: you know, the upgrade drama and the holiday house, he
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Speaker 12: would have woken up this morning, picked up his copy
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Speaker 12: of The Australian and thought, oh god, I've really got
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Speaker 12: a problem now.
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Speaker 3: You see.
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm not sure about, because even when we
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Speaker 4: could all tell that the Voice was going to be defeated,
23:30
Speaker 4: Joe Albo was still even privately.
23:34
Speaker 6: Insisting that I don't know if.
23:37
Speaker 4: I've ever said, surely at this point, you know alban
23:40
Speaker 4: Ezi once boasted he'd never lost a newsport but even
23:43
Speaker 4: surely he must be getting worried now.
23:45
Speaker 6: I would certainly never reveal any private conversations I have
23:48
Speaker 6: I haven't had, but certainly I can say the one
23:51
Speaker 6: thing that troubles me most about Albo is his confidence
23:54
Speaker 6: and that even and you need that to be a politician,
23:56
Speaker 6: because you need.
23:59
Speaker 4: On this show, on this show set Albany, he says
24:02
Speaker 4: he's going.
24:02
Speaker 6: To wear but he is very confident. He is very confident,
24:06
Speaker 6: and he is often in my view, too confident. And
24:09
Speaker 6: obviously that that confidence was misplaced in the voice, and
24:12
Speaker 6: that was something I was saying publicly that this is delusion. Yeah,
24:17
Speaker 6: that's right. And again I think this is a useful
24:20
Speaker 6: wake up call. I mean, there was a there was
24:22
Speaker 6: a school of thought among sections of the Labor Party
24:24
Speaker 6: that the great strategy would be to make demonize Peter
24:27
Speaker 6: Dutton and make him Australia Donald Trump. Well that doesn't
24:30
Speaker 6: look too bright, now, does it, because in that scenario,
24:33
Speaker 6: Peter Dutton wins in a landslide. And I think also
24:37
Speaker 6: it is a reminder And Albo and the government have
24:39
Speaker 6: been very good about this since the voice really burnt
24:42
Speaker 6: their fingers. They have been concentrating wholly on bread and
24:45
Speaker 6: butter issues, wholly on cost of living matters. They have
24:47
Speaker 6: not been distracted by any other you know, quote unquote
24:50
Speaker 6: sort of woke or ideological agendas. When there were issues
24:54
Speaker 6: around you know, naming people's gender or.
24:56
Speaker 4: Sect talking about him here all the government hasn't been.
25:01
Speaker 3: Focused on cost of living at all.
25:05
Speaker 6: To everybody is supporting let's have a.
25:08
Speaker 4: Look at Nancy.
25:10
Speaker 6: But I have I have learned their lessons. There are
25:13
Speaker 6: a lot of lessons to learn. And if I just
25:15
Speaker 6: stick to the center, that will be all right. And
25:17
Speaker 6: this hasn't been Obviously, Liba is going to get bad poll.
25:20
Speaker 3: You get it, Joe, but the government has not learned.
25:24
Speaker 3: There's no question.
25:27
Speaker 4: Now Nancy Pelosi has blamed the loss of the election
25:30
Speaker 4: on President Joe Biden.
25:32
Speaker 3: Have a look.
25:33
Speaker 13: Had the President gotten out sooner, there may been other
25:37
Speaker 13: candidates in the race. Commonly I think still would have won,
25:41
Speaker 13: but she may have been stronger having taken her case
25:45
Speaker 13: to the public sooner. The anticipation was that if there
25:50
Speaker 13: if the president were to step aside, that there would
25:53
Speaker 13: be an open primary.
25:56
Speaker 4: Steve Price, it is true that if Biden would have
25:59
Speaker 4: stepped aside earlier, a proper primary process could have been run,
26:03
Speaker 4: A stronger candidate would have been found. It probably wouldn't
26:06
Speaker 4: have been Kamala Harris.
26:10
Speaker 12: Proper, Yeah, you'd get a proper primary. You get a
26:13
Speaker 12: proper candidate, which wasn't Kamala Harris. But Nancy Pelosi, I mean,
26:17
Speaker 12: who needs her as a friend? I mean Paul old
26:19
Speaker 12: Joe Biden. I mean, we all felt sorry for Joe
26:21
Speaker 12: Biden in the for years as he stumbled up the
26:24
Speaker 12: stairs of the aircraft and couldn't remember his name. But
26:27
Speaker 12: Pelosi was sitting there that whole time, and they let
26:30
Speaker 12: him hang there on the branch, and finally they had
26:32
Speaker 12: to cut him down. But to now come out and
26:34
Speaker 12: say that, I mean, I really I feel sorry for
26:37
Speaker 12: Joe Biden, to be honest, I mean, that is a
26:39
Speaker 12: disgraceful behavior by someone who has you know, worked off
26:44
Speaker 12: the back of Joe Biden for years.
26:47
Speaker 3: Look, he should have stepped aside earlier. He was sure.
26:50
Speaker 4: He was thrown out ultimately by Barack Obama and by
26:54
Speaker 4: Nancy Pelosi. But also this loss is exposed all the
26:57
Speaker 4: infighting with the different camps Joe.
27:00
Speaker 6: No sympathy for Joe Biden whatsoever. It was outrageous to
27:03
Speaker 6: think that he would run again, given his age and
27:06
Speaker 6: obvious cognitive decline. I don't think anyone expected that would
27:09
Speaker 6: happen except for Joe Biden. And perhaps Jill Biden has
27:13
Speaker 6: a lot to answer for because she seems to be
27:14
Speaker 6: the one who is sort of juicing him up and
27:16
Speaker 6: giving him his talking points and give him a little
27:18
Speaker 6: pat on the back like a toddler when he actually
27:20
Speaker 6: got something right. I thought it was the most embarrassing
27:22
Speaker 6: spect I've ever seen. And the idea that you would
27:25
Speaker 6: torch the entire Democratic Party's chances maybe for a generation,
27:29
Speaker 6: bring back Donald Trump, who, by your own reckoning, is
27:32
Speaker 6: the most dangerous president in US history. I don't believe that,
27:36
Speaker 6: but that's what they say. And they were prepared to
27:38
Speaker 6: actually roll the dice on that and bring it back
27:41
Speaker 6: with a candidate they knew couldn't beat anyone else, so
27:44
Speaker 6: they maybe let Donald lu Donald back into the nomination
27:49
Speaker 6: or otherwise failed to find a better candidate who could
27:52
Speaker 6: have beaten Donald Trump or someone else. And they did
27:55
Speaker 6: all of that, by their own admission, brought the most
27:58
Speaker 6: dangerous man in the United States dates back into the
28:01
Speaker 6: White House just for the sake of one man's vanity,
28:04
Speaker 6: one man's personal legacy project. Torch the entire party for that,
28:08
Speaker 6: torched the entire country for that. And they say Trump
28:10
Speaker 6: is the one with dictatorial, anti democratic tendencies.
28:13
Speaker 2: Give me a break.
28:14
Speaker 4: The reality is neither Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris would
28:18
Speaker 4: have been able to win against Donald Trump. And the
28:20
Speaker 4: reason the Obamas, in my view, took so long to
28:24
Speaker 4: come out and endorse Kamala Harris was not because they
28:27
Speaker 4: wanted another candidate. They probably wanted Michelle Obama to run it.
28:30
Speaker 4: And you can see that by the books, I mean
28:33
Speaker 4: reading between the lines, and I did read, by the way,
28:36
Speaker 4: for the most.
28:36
Speaker 3: Recent I didn't want to run.
28:38
Speaker 4: I strongly believe that she does want a political career,
28:42
Speaker 4: just judging by reading her book. Anyway, time will tell.
28:45
Speaker 4: Joe hilde Brand, Steve Price, thank you both so much.
28:48
Speaker 4: Now still to come, Kamala Harris accused of spending over
28:52
Speaker 4: one million dollars for Oprah Winfrey's appearance. Plus an Israeli
28:56
Speaker 4: soccer fan who was chased in Amsterdam.
28:59
Speaker 3: Will join me live next. That's after this welcome back.
29:07
Speaker 3: Well still to come.
29:08
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris accused of paying celebrities to appear with her. Also,
29:12
Speaker 4: there's drama in the Trump camp as Mike Pompeo is
29:15
Speaker 4: excluded from his administration. I'm going to get to that
29:19
Speaker 4: with Koshagada. But now let's return to the program. In Amsterdam.
29:23
Speaker 4: This is an important story. Five people were hospitalized and
29:27
Speaker 4: twenty to thirty injured. One of those who was injured
29:30
Speaker 4: is soccer fan off ek Ziv. He says that he
29:34
Speaker 4: felt the same as he did on the morning of
29:36
Speaker 4: October seven, and he joins me now live effect, thank
29:40
Speaker 4: you for your time. You are safely back in Israel.
29:43
Speaker 4: Now tell us how you were injured on Thursday night
29:47
Speaker 4: in Amsterdam.
29:50
Speaker 1: So thank you for having me. And So I got
29:55
Speaker 1: injured in my head. The becum in my head the
30:00
Speaker 1: right side.
30:02
Speaker 5: After we came out from the central station, the metro
30:06
Speaker 5: station from the stadium.
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Speaker 1: To the way to DWN Square and saw in the exit.
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Speaker 14: Waiting for us thirty twenty to thirty guys and attack
30:22
Speaker 14: our fans, and I got hurt by a stone in
30:27
Speaker 14: my head and then they sworn at us.
30:31
Speaker 5: Some being banged fireworks or something like this. But it
30:35
Speaker 5: felt like a rocket because it it makes a massive,
30:40
Speaker 5: massive explosion nearby us, and you can you could see
30:45
Speaker 5: that the smoke come come on from the ground and
30:51
Speaker 5: it was vital towards very scary situation. And at the
30:57
Speaker 5: moment I didn't know, I didn't know what to do,
31:00
Speaker 5: but I know that I need to ride away with
31:02
Speaker 5: my friend, and another.
31:05
Speaker 1: Time boy that it was fifteen. I think I don't
31:10
Speaker 1: know who.
31:11
Speaker 3: He's for fifteen minutes, Is that what you're saying? You
31:14
Speaker 3: ran away for fifty.
31:16
Speaker 5: The boy, the boy who take a hide behind me
31:20
Speaker 5: on the explosion.
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Speaker 1: Will come.
31:24
Speaker 5: There is a boy I think he was fifteen years old,
31:29
Speaker 5: that's it. He come along from Israel to this game
31:32
Speaker 5: just to enjoy this beautiful, beautiful soper much and then
31:41
Speaker 5: we got into this attack. So we knew that if
31:46
Speaker 5: we don't run away immediately, we could be there, because
31:50
Speaker 5: we live in this situation every time, every day and
31:53
Speaker 5: as well, so it's like an emergency situation.
32:00
Speaker 1: That we know we need to run away immediately.
32:04
Speaker 3: Affect. Did police help you at all at any point?
32:10
Speaker 1: They come late?
32:11
Speaker 5: They come really really late, because when it's happened and
32:16
Speaker 5: the terrorists Muslims.
32:20
Speaker 1: Comes very very organized from the start to the end.
32:25
Speaker 5: And you can see, you could see even the from
32:28
Speaker 5: Tiktook Lives, Facebook Lives.
32:30
Speaker 1: From the down Square that the police didn't do nothing.
32:35
Speaker 5: They're just standing in a line that with their course,
32:39
Speaker 5: with their cause, the police courts behind them, just standing
32:45
Speaker 5: just tanding without any help and he could heard the
32:49
Speaker 5: explosion of the big bangals fireworks. It's one about thrown
32:54
Speaker 5: into our hands and it could held it in these lives.
33:01
Speaker 5: So they didn't help. And until they got involved, many
33:07
Speaker 5: many of our hands get humiliating, rapped, anced and kicked,
33:14
Speaker 5: and they just it's a weird and said situation.
33:19
Speaker 1: Because I we can do nothing. No one helped us.
33:25
Speaker 15: The group of who helped us was actually the ultras
33:32
Speaker 15: of Macapital Maccabi fanatics who heard the unius about that
33:37
Speaker 15: attack just in the stadium, and then they come together
33:41
Speaker 15: to help our guys.
33:43
Speaker 1: And that is the police didn't come to help us.
33:47
Speaker 4: It's completely outrageous, totally outrageous that the police and it's
33:51
Speaker 4: not just you saying this, a lot of the victims
33:54
Speaker 4: and the eyewitnesses are saying that police did nothing, and
33:56
Speaker 4: well the proof is in the pudding. No one reportedly
34:00
Speaker 4: arrested at all despite this roundpage off K.
34:04
Speaker 3: Thank you. We're so sorry you went through that.
34:06
Speaker 4: We appreciate you sharing your story with us in Australia tonight.
34:10
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you very much.
34:12
Speaker 1: Rich Abtadez, thank you very much for having me.
34:15
Speaker 3: Thank you.
34:16
Speaker 4: Now still to come after the break, Kamala Harris accused
34:19
Speaker 4: of splashing out millions of dollars on celebrity appearances at
34:22
Speaker 4: her campaign rallies, and why Ozzie parents are having fewer babies.
34:28
Speaker 4: All of that with Cameron Milner and David Gazard. After
34:31
Speaker 4: this quick break, all right, let's bring in our Monday
34:37
Speaker 4: night political panel now former chief of staff to Bill
34:40
Speaker 4: Shortton Cameron Milner and former advisor to John Howard David Gazard.
34:44
Speaker 4: Great to see you both. Always love this panel on
34:46
Speaker 4: a Monday. Now let's start with US politics, because we're
34:50
Speaker 4: learning that Kamala Harris reportedly dropped one million dollars to
34:55
Speaker 4: get Oprah Winfrey to one of her townhole events. This
34:59
Speaker 4: is back in September. This report is from the Washington Examiner.
35:03
Speaker 4: They say that the Harris campaign paid that amount of
35:07
Speaker 4: money to Winfrey's company, Harpo Productions. Also says that Harris
35:13
Speaker 4: spent or her campaign spent six figures on building a
35:16
Speaker 4: set for Kamala's appearance on the podcast Call Her Daddy,
35:20
Speaker 4: and then the campaign also reportedly spent up to twenty
35:23
Speaker 4: million on swing state constants on the eve of the election.
35:27
Speaker 3: Including on Katy Perry and Lady Gaga.
35:31
Speaker 4: Now, Cameron, from your experience in politics, and you've also
35:35
Speaker 4: run state campaigns for labor. All this money on celebrity endorsements,
35:40
Speaker 4: but I mean, and even Taylor Swift, But it looks
35:43
Speaker 4: like voters just sold through it.
35:47
Speaker 16: Well I think they did, and I think elites don't
35:49
Speaker 16: work and celebrities don't work, Ashari. I mean, it didn't
35:51
Speaker 16: work for Albanese with the Albanize voice. It tanked with
35:54
Speaker 16: Alan Joyce from that campaign, and it looked terrible. For
35:57
Speaker 16: Kamala Trump looked authentic and Marla hand the microphone to
36:01
Speaker 16: get another Hollywood celebrity, another woke lefty on the stage.
36:05
Speaker 2: But this is much worse. This is much worse.
36:06
Speaker 16: If this is true, this is cash for comet on
36:08
Speaker 16: a grand scale, cash for comet, because we don't know
36:11
Speaker 16: where they were just ringing a line off an auto
36:13
Speaker 16: queue for money, or where they actually believe what they
36:15
Speaker 16: were saying about Kamala Harris. And that would be really
36:17
Speaker 16: really bad if that's actually the case. As I say,
36:20
Speaker 16: cash for Comet Kamala.
36:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good line, David Gazard, The celebrities actually
36:27
Speaker 4: could have worked against Kamala Harris given that cost of
36:30
Speaker 4: living and inflation was the biggest issue in the US election.
36:36
Speaker 17: I was living inflation, and it was the working class
36:40
Speaker 17: that really sort of said, hey, we need a leader
36:43
Speaker 17: who's in touch with our aspirations and our concerns. You
36:46
Speaker 17: couldn't really find anyone further away from those aspirations than
36:51
Speaker 17: elites living in Hollywood who are paid, really to pretend
36:56
Speaker 17: to be somebody else, attending parties with p did on
37:00
Speaker 17: one weekend and then telling you how to vote on
37:03
Speaker 17: the next. I mean, I think I'm with Cameron here.
37:06
Speaker 17: It's concerning too that Oprah doesn't sort of front up
37:10
Speaker 17: and say, well, I'm here as a friend.
37:13
Speaker 2: She has to be.
37:14
Speaker 17: Paid to appear to tell people how to vote, which
37:18
Speaker 17: would make it even worse. But it really shows a
37:21
Speaker 17: campaign team hopelessly out of touch with what voters were
37:24
Speaker 17: telling them.
37:25
Speaker 4: A lot of lessons to learn from the US election.
37:28
Speaker 4: I'm going to come back to Donald Trump a bit
37:30
Speaker 4: later in the show, because we have learned this morning
37:33
Speaker 4: that he's excluded Mike Pompeia from his team. I'm going
37:37
Speaker 4: to come back to that with Koshergata. But I want
37:38
Speaker 4: to have a look at the fertility rate in Australia. Now,
37:41
Speaker 4: back in two thousand and eight, the average woman was
37:44
Speaker 4: having two children, but then in twenty twenty three it
37:48
Speaker 4: fell to a record low of one point five children
37:52
Speaker 4: born to a woman over her lifetime one point five.
37:56
Speaker 4: Now the center of a population is sounding the alarm
37:59
Speaker 4: over this, even predicting that school finding will need to
38:02
Speaker 4: be cut in the twenty thirties because they're saying there
38:05
Speaker 4: might not be enough students. Cameron, social and economic issues,
38:10
Speaker 4: the housing crisis, this is all being blamed.
38:15
Speaker 16: Well, it's the long term legacy of Albo's cost of
38:18
Speaker 16: living crisis, isn't it. I mean, we're living grocery prices
38:20
Speaker 16: and petrol and mortgages on a daily basis. But clearly
38:24
Speaker 16: parents are deciding that children who do cost a lot
38:26
Speaker 16: of money. I have for myself, so I can speak
38:28
Speaker 16: for that. But certainly children cost money and people are
38:31
Speaker 16: worried about the future, worried about the cost of living.
38:33
Speaker 16: So this is the long term legacy of Albanize's failure
38:36
Speaker 16: on cost of living Frustralia.
38:38
Speaker 4: Because you know, it's not even far off to think
38:40
Speaker 4: that this is the reason, David. Because life is so expensive,
38:44
Speaker 4: families just can't afford to have as many children as
38:47
Speaker 4: they once could.
38:49
Speaker 17: This is a longer term trend and it goes to
38:52
Speaker 17: people worrying about the effect of their children on the environment,
38:56
Speaker 17: which is sort of laughable given for utility rates in
38:59
Speaker 17: other countries.
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Speaker 2: Don't forget that.
39:02
Speaker 17: You know, back in the mid two thousands, the then
39:06
Speaker 17: Treasurer was trying to arrest this with it with a
39:08
Speaker 17: baby boners something this government has as explicitly ruled out.
39:14
Speaker 17: But it comes with the attendant problems. You have an
39:16
Speaker 17: aging population consuming more health health care, living for longer,
39:21
Speaker 17: and you've got less people entering the tax base paying
39:25
Speaker 17: taxes to pay for all those services for the aging population,
39:29
Speaker 17: so that the boomers are getting by on their savings
39:34
Speaker 17: at the moment, but it will be a declining workforce
39:36
Speaker 17: and a radically changed tax system, with taxes in other
39:41
Speaker 17: areas having a rise to pay for those bills in
39:43
Speaker 17: the future.
39:45
Speaker 4: All right, I want to get both of your views
39:46
Speaker 4: on the news pole, because this is kind of an
39:48
Speaker 4: amazing news pole today. For Peter Dutton, his primary or
39:52
Speaker 4: coalition's primary now forty percent. This is according to the
39:56
Speaker 4: news poll in the Australian newspaper front page today and
40:00
Speaker 4: with the primary of forty percent, could Peter Dutton be
40:03
Speaker 4: Prime minister if he continues to head in this direction.
40:09
Speaker 16: Well, the trend is Peter's friend. I mean, it's been
40:11
Speaker 16: going for a while now, this news poll trend away
40:14
Speaker 16: from Labor and growing and growing the Liberal primary. I think,
40:17
Speaker 16: David and you and I have spoken this about this.
40:19
Speaker 16: Dutton still has time, so he's coming. He's coming from
40:22
Speaker 16: a long way behind. But with six months to go
40:24
Speaker 16: before the next federal election, this trend is really really
40:26
Speaker 16: worrying for Labor. And the worry for Labor is that
40:29
Speaker 16: it is we can't get out of the corner. Albanie
40:31
Speaker 16: hasn't found a way to get the primary to increase.
40:34
Speaker 16: And in fact what's happening is Greens are going backwards.
40:37
Speaker 16: Now that's so bad thing, Sharie, but necessarily the Liberal
40:40
Speaker 16: primary is becoming huge and that's a real long term
40:43
Speaker 16: problem for Labor as they face the election in only
40:45
Speaker 16: six months time.
40:46
Speaker 4: Look, Labor has in recent times run excellent campaigns, also
40:50
Speaker 4: excellent scare campaigns. But David, it does seem and you know,
40:55
Speaker 4: we hear reports that they might run a scare campaign
40:57
Speaker 4: on abortion and other issues. It seems as though voters
41:01
Speaker 4: are starting to cement their view of exactly who the
41:05
Speaker 4: Prime Minister is and they think that he's weak and incompetent.
41:11
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was having this very conversation this morning. Share.
41:13
Speaker 17: It's an interesting thing you're saying. I'd say describe it
41:17
Speaker 17: this way. It's like the voters are going to a
41:19
Speaker 17: new restaurant with a new government. They order up the food,
41:22
Speaker 17: they're not happy with it. Do they just decide to
41:26
Speaker 17: eat it and pay the bill and not come back
41:27
Speaker 17: to the restaurant or do they send it back? I
41:31
Speaker 17: think that the jury is out on that, but it's
41:33
Speaker 17: clear that Anthony Elberonezi is facing a trifecta of trouble
41:37
Speaker 17: politically because he's losing the primary vote. The two PP
41:42
Speaker 17: is going against him and he arguably could be behind there,
41:45
Speaker 17: but he's also in mortal danger of giving up preferred PM.
41:50
Speaker 17: And you can survive when one of your numbers is
41:53
Speaker 17: higher than the other as leader, but when all three
41:56
Speaker 17: of crost you've got a very very difficult couple of
41:59
Speaker 17: weeks in parliament to when the year when that confluence
42:03
Speaker 17: of numbers occurs.
42:05
Speaker 4: It's interesting for over a year now, and I think
42:08
Speaker 4: you take it back to probably the Voice campaign. There
42:11
Speaker 4: hasn't been really a week that Alberanezi has won politically.
42:15
Speaker 4: He's just moving from problem to problem to problem, and
42:18
Speaker 4: he keeps trying to have distractions by announcing policies, but
42:22
Speaker 4: it just doesn't work.
42:23
Speaker 16: Cameron, Well, no, because it's Albanese who's the frontman for it.
42:28
Speaker 16: I mean he was a frontman for the Albanese Voice,
42:30
Speaker 16: is the frontman for every labor announcement, and he's not
42:32
Speaker 16: dealing with a critical issue, the number one issue for Australians,
42:35
Speaker 16: cost a living. He's not dealing with it maturely and
42:39
Speaker 16: sensibly and really, and yet Peter Dartner's out there saying
42:41
Speaker 16: we've got policies and plans for that. So no, Albanize
42:44
Speaker 16: is in all sorts of trouble and labor while albo
42:46
Speaker 16: Leads is leading towards election loss.
42:50
Speaker 4: Also, the times that we're living in national securities a
42:53
Speaker 4: concern as well. We're seeing this violence, whether it's youth crime,
42:57
Speaker 4: whether it's the protesters and a figure Peter Dutton, you
43:01
Speaker 4: know what used to be his weakness, what would have
43:04
Speaker 4: been considered his weaknesses, that he comes across as too
43:07
Speaker 4: hard and too tough, David Gazzard, this is now working
43:10
Speaker 4: for him.
43:12
Speaker 1: Yeah.
43:12
Speaker 17: In politics we call those equity positions. And Peter Dutton
43:16
Speaker 17: certainly owns. The Liberal Party traditionally owns the area of
43:19
Speaker 17: security and the economy.
43:21
Speaker 2: Two of the biggest voat drivers.
43:23
Speaker 17: I mean, Peter is a former policeman, has run home affairs,
43:27
Speaker 17: border control, that sort of thing, so that's running in
43:29
Speaker 17: his favor. On the other side is Anthony Albernez, a
43:32
Speaker 17: member of the socialist left faction of the Labor Party.
43:35
Speaker 17: If ever you could find that the faction that was
43:38
Speaker 17: not put in place to run tight fiscal budget policy,
43:43
Speaker 17: it would be the socialist Left. So Anthony Abernez has
43:46
Speaker 17: never really had to confront these issues. He's probably not
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Speaker 17: really that interesting in running these issues. He's been more
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Speaker 17: of an activist in the city, you know, quasi green
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Speaker 17: socialist left faction Labor Party MP. He suddenly finds himself
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Speaker 17: with having to deal with a global economic problem as
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Speaker 17: well as a huge security problem.
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Speaker 2: It's not his areas of comfort.
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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, all right, David Gazzard, Cameron, me and I
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Speaker 4: thank you both very much for joining me. Still to come,
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump starts to announce some key appointments I'm going
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Speaker 4: to tell you which after the break, plus the internal
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Speaker 4: turmoil in the Trump camp as Mike Pompeo is given
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Speaker 4: the boot.
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Speaker 3: All that and more with Koshagada after the Break.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 4: Mike Pompeo and Nicki Haley have both been snubbed for
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Speaker 4: a spot in the Trump administration.
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Speaker 18: Now.
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump took to social media. He thanked them for
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Speaker 4: their service, but said they wouldn't be in his team.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 4: This isn't a surprise for Nicky Haley. She ran against
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Speaker 4: Trump in the primaries. She was pretty critical about him personally,
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Speaker 4: although they did make up.
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Speaker 3: But this was a massive shock.
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Speaker 4: For Mike Pompeo and his supporters. It had been widely
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Speaker 4: reported that he was being considered for the role of
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Speaker 4: Defense Secretary. He would have been terrific in that position.
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Speaker 4: The Wall Street Journal reports that this decision could be
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Speaker 4: the influence of Trump's son, Don Junior, but also Tucker Carlson.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 4: Don Junior retweeted a MAGA supporter who said this, The
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Speaker 4: stop Pompeo movement is great, but it's not enough right now.
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Speaker 4: We need maximum pressure to keep all neokons and warhawks
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Speaker 4: out of.
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Speaker 3: The Trump administration.
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Speaker 4: They have had their time at the table and brought
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Speaker 4: nothing but disaster to the world and this country. And
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Speaker 4: Don Junior replied to this saying, agreed, one hundred, one hundred,
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: I'm on it.
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Speaker 4: Okay, let's bring in our Sky News Countrybut kosher gada
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Speaker 4: now kosher. I think this is a deeply disappointing move.
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Speaker 4: Mike Pompeo was the best of the best in the
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Speaker 4: Trump administration.
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Speaker 3: He was solid on Ukraine, on China, on Israel.
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Speaker 4: His view isn't unnecessary war, it's peace through strength. Now,
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Speaker 4: I don't want to be too judgmental until we see
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Speaker 4: who Trump does a point, but this seems to be
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Speaker 4: a worrying sign about the influence of some of the
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Speaker 4: isolationist figures who don't understand that actually America has a
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Speaker 4: critical role to play as leader of the free world.
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Speaker 18: You know, I think what this is going to come
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Speaker 18: down to, Shari, is the underlying framework here is there
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Speaker 18: is a civil war really happening within the right side
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Speaker 18: of politics in America and in the Republican Party, and
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Speaker 18: foreign policy is one of two or three key issues
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Speaker 18: that's having a new fault line drawn. And as you say,
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Speaker 18: there is the group that believes a return to non interventionalism,
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Speaker 18: as they would put it, is the way forward when
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Speaker 18: you want to balance all the problems that are there
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Speaker 18: domestically with the way we have to look at our
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Speaker 18: place in the world. And then there's the other faction
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Speaker 18: that Mike Pompeiu was certainly part of. Nikki Hiley, would
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Speaker 18: be John Bolton who was involved in the last administration,
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Speaker 18: and others. And I think what you're going to see
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Speaker 18: is this battlefield. It's only not even been one week
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Speaker 18: yet since President electors come in, but I think he
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Speaker 18: and his supporters, whether it's Don Junior and Tucker and others,
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Speaker 18: even RFK and Tulsea Gabert and all of them are
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Speaker 18: from that former camp, which is they want non interventionalism
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Speaker 18: and want to pull back of US involvement actively kinetically
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Speaker 18: in the world. And you are going to see that
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Speaker 18: horse trading and conflict I think within the party really
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Speaker 18: spill out.
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Speaker 4: It was also such a surprise because not that long ago,
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Speaker 4: about a week and a half or two weeks ago,
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Speaker 4: Trump all but endorsed Pompeo and thanked him for everything
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Speaker 4: he'd done to keep the world a safer place.
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Speaker 3: At a rally. Bill Kosher.
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Speaker 4: Trump has announced at least three key appointments. Can you
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Speaker 4: take us through those three figures that we know about
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Speaker 4: so far?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 18: So the first one is Susie Wiles, who was his
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Speaker 18: campaign manager, and he is appointing her as chief of staff.
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Speaker 18: That's an interesting one too, because she sort of grew
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Speaker 18: up under the Bush era of Republican politics, and I
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Speaker 18: think she was chief of staff of Ron de Santis
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Speaker 18: and his primary campaign well or campaign manager. So it's
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Speaker 18: interesting that she's sort of been in other parts of
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Speaker 18: those different fracturings in the Republican Party. But she has
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Speaker 18: definitely earned his trust and credibility given the very successful
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Speaker 18: campaign that he ran. She doesn't seek the limelight. She
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Speaker 18: seems to be a very disciplined person and somebody who's
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Speaker 18: able to manage Trump as much as Trump is manageable.
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Speaker 3: So that's one, and she'll be the.
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Speaker 18: Gatekeeper for a lot of people having access to Trump.
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Speaker 18: The second is Congresswoman Elis Stephonic of New York has
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Speaker 18: reportedly been offered the role of UN Ambassador. That is
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Speaker 18: a position to require Senate confirmation, so it won't be
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Speaker 18: official until the Senate comes back in and is able
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Speaker 18: to run that process. But everybody expects that that will
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Speaker 18: go through smoothly, and she's accepted it. She's somebody who
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Speaker 18: rose to prominence with her addressing the issues on college
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Speaker 18: campuses in the US in the wake of October seventh
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Speaker 18: and anti Semitic protests and all of that. So her
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Speaker 18: appointment will be quite interesting as our representative to the
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Speaker 18: un specifically given what's happening in that region. And then
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Speaker 18: the third one is the borders are Tom Horman, who's
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Speaker 18: a retired ICE director, So he's a retired director of
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Speaker 18: the Immigration Enforcement Agency and he's coming out of retirement
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Speaker 18: to serve as a czar, which is not a cabinet
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Speaker 18: position or doesn't have official authority per se, but he'll
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Speaker 18: be the force, the face rather of that issue, which
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Speaker 18: was a signature issue of Trump with the master deportations
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Speaker 18: and all of that. So that one, I think also
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Speaker 18: signals that Trump is so far intending to keep his
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Speaker 18: signature campaign promise with respective deportations.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And I think Stephanick did a brilliant job
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Speaker 4: when she was holding those university chancellors to account.
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Speaker 3: Kosha got it. Great to see you.
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Speaker 4: As always on a Monday night, and thanks everyone for
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Speaker 4: watching tonight. I'll see you tomorrow at at eight. And
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Speaker 4: I think we're about to rename the Man Cave the
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Speaker 4: Woman Cave because he is Dniki di Giorgio