Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / U.S. and Iran agree to resume talks, stop fighting in the Strait of Hormuz
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Because after days of renewed hostilities, the US and Iran
- 0:03Speaker 1: have agreed to end the back and forth fighting around
- 0:05Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz and resume peace talks to end the.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Five month war.
- 0:10Speaker 1: That's according to the Wall Street Journal, citing officials from
- 0:12Speaker 1: the US and other countries involved in those negotiations. A
- 0:15Speaker 1: senior Trump Administration official telling MS now that technical talks
- 0:19Speaker 1: are on track for the coming days as planned. This
- 0:22Speaker 1: potential cooling comes after the two sides traded strikes late
- 0:25Speaker 1: last week and throughout the weekend, stemming from efforts to
- 0:28Speaker 1: reopen the strait without Iran's oversight. A multinational maritime body
- 0:32Speaker 1: overseen by the US Navy said it would expand a
- 0:35Speaker 1: route near Oman for inbound and outbound traffic. Iran then
- 0:38Speaker 1: attacked vessels going through a route near the Omani side,
- 0:41Speaker 1: prompting the US military to retaliate. Tehran later hit back
- 0:45Speaker 1: by launching drone and missile attacks targeting US assets in
- 0:48Speaker 1: Bahrain and Kuwait, as the country's foreign minister reiterated the
- 0:52Speaker 1: claim that Iran alone has the authority to govern the strait. Meanwhile,
- 0:56Speaker 1: fighting in Lebanon continues to threaten any lasting regional peace steal,
- 1:00Speaker 1: with Hasbell as leader saying the group reserves the right
- 1:02Speaker 1: to quote defend our homeland and people, and they'll not
- 1:05Speaker 1: stop until Israel withdraws from Lebanon. It's a lot for
- 1:09Speaker 1: us to get into. A staff writer at The Atlantic
- 1:11Speaker 1: covering National Security and the Defense Department, Nancy Yusef, is
- 1:14Speaker 1: here on set. Let's first take the Iran US piece
- 1:18Speaker 1: of this, because Lebanon has always been relevant, but tangentials
- 1:21Speaker 1: will come there in a second. When it comes to
- 1:23Speaker 1: Iran and the US, we are once again in this
- 1:26Speaker 1: position where it's a ceasefire.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Seemingly in name only.
- 1:30Speaker 1: And you and I were talking before we came out here,
- 1:32Speaker 1: and you said, well, we kind of knew this was
- 1:33Speaker 1: going to happen, but walk us through why it happened
- 1:36Speaker 1: and what it means going forward now.
- 1:38Speaker 3: So I think both sides are seeking leverage. The Iranians
- 1:41Speaker 3: are trying to say, we will retain some say over
- 1:45Speaker 3: what ships go through the Strait of Hormos, and we're
- 1:47Speaker 3: going to show you that by conducting these strikes such
- 1:50Speaker 3: that ships know that they need to coordinate with us
- 1:52Speaker 3: on some way before they transit the Straight of Removes
- 1:55Speaker 3: and the US is trying to say that we have
- 1:57Speaker 3: the military capacity to aaran, we can keep freedom of
- 2:03Speaker 3: navigation open, and so both sides are trying to send
- 2:05Speaker 3: the message along those lines without doing so much that
- 2:09Speaker 3: we resume the start of war because they don't think
- 2:11Speaker 3: either side wants it. I think we're now a point
- 2:13Speaker 3: where they're agreeing to stop that for now because they
- 2:16Speaker 3: feel like they've made those messages, they've communicated those messages.
- 2:20Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that we won't see this again in
- 2:22Speaker 3: the future. And it reminds us that despite the Memorandum
- 2:25Speaker 3: Understanding calling for the reopening of the Strait.
- 2:28Speaker 2: The details around how the.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Straight will function going forward will be a key part
- 2:32Speaker 3: of these talks going forward. It brings the issue back
- 2:35Speaker 3: to the fore of diplomacy rather than I think what
- 2:38Speaker 3: the US is hoping for, which is a focus on
- 2:40Speaker 3: around's ballistic capability, it's nuclear program.
- 2:44Speaker 2: And it's drovene capacity.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Well, especially as A there's all those other thorny issues
- 2:48Speaker 1: that they still have to talk about in the Memorandum
- 2:50Speaker 1: of Understanding, But B when it comes to the issue
- 2:53Speaker 1: of the street, the administration is trying to come out
- 2:55Speaker 1: and say, look, it's a win, it's going to be open,
- 2:58Speaker 1: it's going to be toll free, a.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Going to have control.
- 3:01Speaker 1: And yet that only talks about what it was before
- 3:04Speaker 1: the war even began. And so there's an open question
- 3:06Speaker 1: of Okay, what did the US get beyond reviving this
- 3:10Speaker 1: old issue of can iron exercise leverage in the street.
- 3:13Speaker 1: And then the other question is even as they continue
- 3:15Speaker 1: to say these planned talks are going to go on,
- 3:18Speaker 1: or we just to expect that there will be a
- 3:21Speaker 1: new round of strikes and fighting many skirmishes during a ceasefire, so.
- 3:27Speaker 2: People can keep pushing for leverage. I mean, is this
- 3:29Speaker 2: just what it looks like?
- 3:29Speaker 3: Well, that has been the precedent's up until this point.
- 3:32Speaker 3: You'll remember that General Kin, the chairman of the Joint
- 3:34Speaker 3: Chief of Staff, when this was happening during sort of
- 3:36Speaker 3: the OGC's fire, said that we haven't reached a level
- 3:39Speaker 3: of major combat operations. So there is a threshold that's
- 3:42Speaker 3: been set that these sort of back and forth tit
- 3:44Speaker 3: for tat battles designed to sort of message are acceptable
- 3:47Speaker 3: on this under these terms of the quote unquote ceasefire.
- 3:51Speaker 3: And so that portends that this will happen again as
- 3:53Speaker 3: their disagreements about the diplomatic side of this, that both
- 3:57Speaker 3: sides will use strikes and counterstrikes to message what they
- 4:01Speaker 3: want going forward, what they need to see going forward,
- 4:04Speaker 3: to get the best outcome for each side.
- 4:06Speaker 1: So then when they do go into talks in Switzerland
- 4:09Speaker 1: again this week, do you anticipate that there will be
- 4:12Speaker 1: any tangibles to come out of the process And at
- 4:16Speaker 1: what point do they need to start actually showing the
- 4:17Speaker 1: negotiations are dealing with some of these thorny or more
- 4:21Speaker 1: complex issues.
- 4:22Speaker 3: I mean, what we saw the memorandum of understanding is
- 4:24Speaker 3: there are agreements, but they're quite ambiguous and in some
- 4:27Speaker 3: ways they lead to more confusion down the road. For example,
- 4:30Speaker 3: the memorandum of understanding says that the Iranians will make
- 4:34Speaker 3: arrangements for ships to transit the Straight of Horn moves.
- 4:37Speaker 2: What does that mean?
- 4:38Speaker 3: Are the Iranians interpreting that to mean that they can
- 4:40Speaker 3: decide exactly what routesship can take for example, that's just
- 4:44Speaker 3: one issue. You'll remember the Iran deal under the Obama
- 4:48Speaker 3: administration took nearly two years to negotiate it, and now
- 4:50Speaker 3: it's just on one of these issues. We're talking about proxies,
- 4:53Speaker 3: ballistic missiles, drones, the Strait of Horn moves. So the tangible,
- 4:58Speaker 3: I think ideally, is one tiny point that is specifically
- 5:03Speaker 3: outlined such that they can move forward, but that doesn't
- 5:05Speaker 3: guarantee that there won't be more of these sort of
- 5:07Speaker 3: strikes and counter strikes as each side tries to position
- 5:12Speaker 3: itself in the way that gives them the best position
- 5:15Speaker 3: going forward.
- 5:16Speaker 2: On these talks.
- 5:16Speaker 1: And then of course Lebanon and the fact that they're
- 5:19Speaker 1: still fighting there and the State Department involved in those negotiations.
- 5:22Speaker 2: But the Iranians have.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Made clear that they want to see a complete end
- 5:26Speaker 1: to the fighting in Lebanon if they were to move
- 5:29Speaker 1: forward with.
- 5:29Speaker 2: A USRAN piece deal. So what is that factor looking
- 5:32Speaker 2: like right now?
- 5:33Speaker 3: Well, you remember, Israel is not a signatory to this
- 5:35Speaker 3: memorandum of understanding, and see Lebanon and the threat from
- 5:39Speaker 3: the Southern Lebanon as part of their defense in terms
- 5:43Speaker 3: of what they needed to go after. And so Israel
- 5:46Speaker 3: is going to is on a walk in a very
- 5:47Speaker 3: fine line because on one hand, they face domestic political
- 5:50Speaker 3: pressure to deal the threat.
- 5:51Speaker 2: From Southern Lebanon.
- 5:53Speaker 3: On the other hand, they don't want to do something
- 5:54Speaker 3: that's so antagonizes the Trump administration, that they lose a
- 5:57Speaker 3: key ally, an alley that they went into the war
- 6:00Speaker 3: was together, and.
- 6:01Speaker 1: That Bbnatagna, who has at times praised under President Trump
- 6:04Speaker 1: as the best ally that Israel has ever had. That's again,
- 6:08Speaker 1: we've watched then the fraying of that relationship at various times,
- 6:11Speaker 1: including now that's over tensions of what it should look
- 6:14Speaker 1: like to proceed in this conflict. We went in together,
- 6:17Speaker 1: but we knew that their goals eventually would diverge. I
- 6:20Speaker 1: think we're watching that in real time. That's exactly staff
- 6:23Speaker 1: writer at The Atlantic, Nancy Yusef. Always great to have you,
- 6:26Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in. Meanwhile, the death toll is
- 6:29Speaker 1: growing in Venezuela following two back to back earthquakes last week.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Officials say nearly fifteen hundred people are dead, more than
- 6:36Speaker 1: three thousand injured, and up to fifty thousand people are
- 6:39Speaker 1: registered as missing. The earthquakes were centered around a coastal
- 6:43Speaker 1: city about twenty five miles north of Venezuela's capital of Caracas,
- 6:46Speaker 1: and destroyed.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Dozens of buildings.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Acting President Delsia Rodriguez said yesterday that rescue and recovery
- 6:52Speaker 1: efforts remain ongoing, while the first seventy two hours after
- 6:55Speaker 1: an earthquake are the most critical for finding survivors.
- 6:59Speaker 2: There were still.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Rest Who's happening throughout the weekend. US rescue crews helped
- 7:03Speaker 1: pull this man from the rubble. Meanwhile, some Venezuelans are
- 7:07Speaker 1: expressing frustration with what they say is the country's inadequate
- 7:10Speaker 1: and disorganized response. Many international rescue crews were held up
- 7:15Speaker 1: for hours by airport authorities, while one Spanish crew disbanded
- 7:18Speaker 1: after waiting for two days at the airport. Volunteers that
- 7:21Speaker 1: were praised for their help were also prevented access to
- 7:24Speaker 1: some sites through to the government.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Limiting street access.
- 7:28Speaker 1: School classes remained suspended for one more week, while electricity
- 7:31Speaker 1: supply has only been restored to seventy five percent of
- 7:34Speaker 1: the area. A senior US official announced yesterday that a
- 7:37Speaker 1: financial package to help Venezuela could.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Be announced early this week.
- 7:41Speaker 1: We are, of course praying that they find more people
- 7:43Speaker 1: and for the families who are still looking for or
- 7:45Speaker 1: mourning their loved ones. And finally, former Transportation Secretary Pete
- 7:50Speaker 1: Budajege says he was briefly separated from his four year
- 7:53Speaker 1: old twin children after an anonymous caller reported false accusations
- 7:57Speaker 1: to Child.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Protective Services is horrifying.
- 8:01Speaker 1: In a substack post over the weekend, Buddha Judge revealed
- 8:03Speaker 1: that he was the target of a swatting incident.
- 8:06Speaker 2: That's when someone issues a.
- 8:07Speaker 1: False emergency report against someone else. Buddhajudge wrote he was
- 8:11Speaker 1: separated from his kids for twenty four hours while CPS
- 8:14Speaker 1: conducted forensic interviews.
- 8:16Speaker 2: The former secretary called it, quote among the darkest hours
- 8:19Speaker 2: of my life.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Michigan State Police said they received a quote anonymous report
- 8:23Speaker 1: and that their officers and CPS quote responded and determined
- 8:27Speaker 1: the report was false. Buddha Judge, who's gay and married
- 8:30Speaker 1: to a man chasten, noted the timing of the threat
- 8:32Speaker 1: shortly after Father's Day and during Pride Month, and Buddha
- 8:35Speaker 1: Judge even wrote in his sub stack that he was
- 8:38Speaker 1: talking with law enforcement officials throughout this and they even
- 8:41Speaker 1: told him they believed that anonymous tip was politically motivated.
- 8:46Speaker 1: And yet, as we've heard other officials say over the
- 8:48Speaker 1: course of talking about this story, once a call like
- 8:51Speaker 1: that is put in law enforcement CPS, they have to
- 8:54Speaker 1: do an investigation.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Just absolutely horrifying.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Buddhajudg is someone who's dedicated to his life to public
- 9:00Speaker 1: service and now is having to be separated from his children.
- 9:04Speaker 2: I mean, it's horrifying. You should read the substact
- 9:07Speaker 1: Post and just hope that our politics can do better
- 9:10Speaker 1: than this.