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Your Turn: Season 6 Fan Q & A Part 1 · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, let's kiss you. I am all in with Scott
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  Speaker 2: Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. iHeartRadio,
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  Speaker 1: R Heart Media, I heart Podcast. One eleven Productions, one
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  Speaker 1: eleven podcasts, one eleven Media. There's so many companies to name.
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  Speaker 1: I am joined by my intrepid crew Daniel Romo, Amy Sugarman,
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  Speaker 1: Suzanne French and we're gonna do a season six wrap
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  Speaker 1: up Q and A. But first, I'm excited to go
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  Speaker 1: to Tupelo, Mississippi. So I'm gonna be there at the
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  Speaker 1: Tupelo Con March sixteenth through eighteen. And if you want
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  Speaker 1: to get the new line of Gilmore Girls coffees, the
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  Speaker 1: Luke Dyner Blended Starslund and the Dragonfly and talk Fast Blend,
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  Speaker 1: go to the Warner Brothers studio store in Burbank, California,
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  Speaker 1: where it is exclusively sold. If you want Scotti Pea's
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  Speaker 1: Big Monk Coffee, email us at support at Scottipea dot com.
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  Speaker 1: And Amy's got some question John as well.
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  Speaker 2: First I wanted to ask you guys, like, is anyone
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  Speaker 2: a little weirded out? I am that were like to
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  Speaker 2: the last season of Gilmore Girls.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little real it flew by. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like yesterday I picked up a phone and
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  Speaker 1: called you about this idea I had of a rewatch podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Think it was an original idea it all. It really wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: And is it anyone else?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess maybe in my mind it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's the Palladinos last episode. Now. I love West Wing also,
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  Speaker 2: and Aaron Sorkin did leave the show and I continued
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  Speaker 2: to love it, but it is they are such unique
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  Speaker 2: creators that it is a little weird to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: the main creators of the show are gone.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Was that weird for you when they left, Scott?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Was it sad?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And were you stressed?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Everybody was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we didn't know if we were going to
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  Speaker 1: have a season seven. We didn't know if we should
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  Speaker 1: even be involved in it. We felt yeahl did. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's these loyalties that you have to Amy and
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  Speaker 1: Dan and but then you know you've you've got your
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  Speaker 1: loyalties to your mortgage and your family, and.
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  Speaker 2: Are some things beyond your control, Like if you have
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  Speaker 2: a contract, that's one of them. You can't leave just
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  Speaker 2: because they did.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you can, but and our contracts were but I'd
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  Speaker 1: already negotiated for a season seven, right, So you were like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was under contract, So yeah, you're obligated.
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  Speaker 1: You can't just not show up. They'll you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's a no. No. You know, want to get into
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  Speaker 1: a legal brew with a major studio.
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  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, it would be hard though, especially since,
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  Speaker 2: like you know, I guess on some shows, like look
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  Speaker 2: on some shows create, you know, the showrunners come and
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  Speaker 2: go and they go through multiple.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's never good.
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  Speaker 2: No, and these are rarely a.
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  Speaker 1: Good thing, you know, you want to have. Like I
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  Speaker 1: was on a show a NBC and the showrunner was
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  Speaker 1: inexperienced but had written a really great pilot and they
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  Speaker 1: replaced him with another show and it destroyed the show. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: yeah it didn't. It didn't last a year. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it was a year and it was it was out.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a good sign when like showrunners coming and going.
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  Speaker 2: That's some shows. I think the Walking Dead and the
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  Speaker 2: West Wing, like we talked about, can can survive it.
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  Speaker 2: But it will be interesting for us to really analyze
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  Speaker 2: season seven, the differences.
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  Speaker 1: And we know, we know how good, how gifted a writer,
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  Speaker 1: David Rosenthal is right right, and he laid down some
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  Speaker 1: fantastic episodes. And I don't remember her favorites.
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  Speaker 2: Back then, like in Juel. I just liked the show, right,
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  Speaker 2: So I wasn't in the behind the scenes weeds, like
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really even I don't know, Suzanne, did you
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  Speaker 2: know when you watched it? Did you watch it in
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  Speaker 2: the first run.
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  Speaker 3: I did not watch it in the first run. I
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  Speaker 3: watched it for the first time in twenty sixteen, But
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  Speaker 3: I will say the first time I saw it, maybe
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  Speaker 3: I was just oblivious, but I did not notice. I
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  Speaker 3: did not realize that Amy and Dan had left for seasons,
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  Speaker 3: Like it just was continuous for me. Soay, I know
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  Speaker 3: other people. I've seen other people say, oh, you could
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  Speaker 3: totally see a difference, and maybe I just wasn't being
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  Speaker 3: very close attention, but I didn't notice it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember loving the show and being happy
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  Speaker 2: to watch more episodes because I watched it live, like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know on CW or w BE whatever it
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  Speaker 2: was then, So I didn't and I wasn't into the
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes, so I sort of was and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure as a twenty something I would have cared.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that I would have realized like the
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  Speaker 2: impact that a showrunner, creator writers had. I think I
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  Speaker 2: was much more like, no, that's Luke and that's Laura LII.
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  Speaker 2: Like I just was like hook line and sinker into
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  Speaker 2: the actors, right.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think the first line of defense are
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  Speaker 1: the are the or the talent and we noticed we
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  Speaker 1: are the ones who notice it right away, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, we do the best we can
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  Speaker 1: to you know, make it the best we can.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But to ask somebody who it didn't dream up these characters,
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  Speaker 1: and it isn't. Writing from the experience that Dan and
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  Speaker 1: Amy has and brings to bear on these characters who
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  Speaker 1: created them is impossible task. It is an impossible task.
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  Speaker 1: And I've seen so many scripts that have been submitted
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  Speaker 1: to me and as writing samples, And I wrote a
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  Speaker 1: Gilmour episode. Do you think you get me a meeting
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  Speaker 1: with Amy? And this kind of thing? And you read
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  Speaker 1: these things and they're just spot on and they're great,
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  Speaker 1: but there's always something a little bit missing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: totally right, right, And it's not a knock on these writers.
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  Speaker 1: These are great writers. There's some great writers out there,
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  Speaker 1: and they take a stab at it and they do
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  Speaker 1: a great job, and the jokes are funny and all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff, but there's just that special sauce just isn't well. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to replace those unique voices that Amy
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  Speaker 1: and Dan brought to this show. You're not going to
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  Speaker 1: replace that. It's impossible.
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  Speaker 2: So that leads me to my next question because obviously, look,
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  Speaker 2: I always read all the comments. It's so much fun
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  Speaker 2: for me to read all the comments, but it's my job.
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  Speaker 2: So here's my question for you guys, and really for
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  Speaker 2: everyone listening right and especially for you Scott and Suzanne
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  Speaker 2: because Danielle's seeing it for the first time. I love
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  Speaker 2: this show, right, And I, obviously, as a result of that,
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  Speaker 2: like the writers and the creators. To me, it was
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  Speaker 2: always about the actors, like I was like, I love
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  Speaker 2: Luke and I love Logan and this is who I
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  Speaker 2: would pick, and YadA, YadA. But obviously, as a big fan,
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  Speaker 2: you're sucked into the writing and the creators who who
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  Speaker 2: came up with these characters. So my question is there
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  Speaker 2: are so many comments about how much they hate Lorli
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  Speaker 2: hooking up with Christopher and how dare he write? Like
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  Speaker 2: they're really mad that Christopher would do that. As a viewer,
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  Speaker 2: if I just surrender like my ability to control anything
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  Speaker 2: on this show, like I have no ability to rewrite it,
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  Speaker 2: and at the time, I'm just watching it like as
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  Speaker 2: a voyeur. If Amy and Dan know.
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  Speaker 4: These characters so well, they are the characters, they created them,
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  Speaker 4: why do we have such a distrust in them making
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  Speaker 4: the decision that Lorelei ran back to Christopher.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a distrusted They did it intentionally because they
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  Speaker 1: know if you give fans what they want, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to go away. Yeah, you've got to keep the fans
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  Speaker 1: a little bit or a lot a bit in a
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  Speaker 1: state of longing and want. You can't give him what
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  Speaker 1: they want. You know. They wrote Christopher to be unlikable.
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  Speaker 1: They wrote him as a spineless person. That's how they
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  Speaker 1: wrote him. Okay, fans were supposed to be repulsed by this.
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  Speaker 1: They were supposed to be scratching their heads, like, why
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  Speaker 1: Laurel are you going over? This is only something that
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  Speaker 1: Laurel I can understand and Christopher can understand. Most fans
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  Speaker 1: can't understand. What's the attraction here? We don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: He's needy, he's whiny's he's just a complete screw up
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  Speaker 1: in his life. Why are how are you attracted that? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, the father, it's young love. It's sixteen
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  Speaker 1: or fifteen, sixteen year old love, and you don't get
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  Speaker 1: over that, and you don't forget about that. And there's all,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's the residuals effects left over. And still
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  Speaker 1: there's a chance that you know, and she needs him
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  Speaker 1: in Rory's life, and Rory wants him in her life,
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  Speaker 1: and you know it's not a bad thing, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: romantically speaking, you know, it has an ick factor that
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  Speaker 1: the fans that register and they come rightfully and righteously
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  Speaker 1: complain about. So I don't I don't understand what you
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  Speaker 1: are personally seeing. I don't see any chemistry between them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see any attraction between them. I just look
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  Speaker 1: at it objectively and I say, whoa, you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's all big bowl of wrong right there. And and
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know I have a dog in the
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  Speaker 1: fight here, but you know, I'm trying to be objective
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  Speaker 1: about it. It's like, you know, you can't compare the
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  Speaker 1: two characters, you know, Luke is a steadfast guy with
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  Speaker 1: a with a backbone and his principles and in his
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  Speaker 1: limited worldview, but he is who he is, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know it's it's Christopher is one hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 1: degrees in the other direction. Yeah, And it's just clear
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  Speaker 1: for all to say. So it's not even really a competition.
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  Speaker 1: When they say team, are your team Luke or team Christophers?
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  Speaker 1: I agree, even a team, it's it's what are you
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  Speaker 1: talking about? You know? So I don't begrudge the fans
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  Speaker 1: for disliking Christophers. They wrote him just unlikable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote him partially likable, though, am I the
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  Speaker 2: only one that sees that.
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  Speaker 1: Name one likable thing that he has ever said or done?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's an opportunist. He's just like skulking around
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  Speaker 1: the edges of her life when he should just f off.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he's very in love with Loralai.
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  Speaker 1: It's gross. Yeah, he is. He wants back in.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if he's in love with Lorelai so
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  Speaker 3: much as he's in love with whatever it was that
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  Speaker 3: they had back in high school. So we've we've talked
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  Speaker 3: about in a previous episode. I can't remember which episode
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  Speaker 3: of the of the series. It was, but we talked
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  Speaker 3: about how really Christopher has never grown up, like he's
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  Speaker 3: still kind of that teenager in his head. And I
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  Speaker 3: think he has this idea that if he can be
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  Speaker 3: with LORIAI they can be like they were when they
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  Speaker 3: were teenagers, because that's kind of still who he is
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  Speaker 3: in his head. So I don't know that he's in
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  Speaker 3: love with the current Laurel. I think he thinks he is,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't. I don't know that he really is.
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  Speaker 3: And just to your point earlier, Amy about you know,
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  Speaker 3: should we trust Amy and Dan because they're the writers
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  Speaker 3: and the creators of these characters. I just wanted to say,
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  Speaker 3: as a viewer, when I'm watching any television show, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's you know, Gilmore Girls or anything else, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: thinking about the actual people that wrote it. I'm like
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  Speaker 3: in the story. I'm in the plot, and I'm with
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  Speaker 3: the characters. So I don't really care if that particular
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  Speaker 3: episode was written by the person who originally created the
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  Speaker 3: character or not. So so to me, I don't I
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  Speaker 3: don't feel like I as a viewer, oh the writer's anything.
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  Speaker 2: If that, I just feel like I am a voyeur.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't get to like, I don't get to say,
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  Speaker 2: oh why, It's like I almost try to suspend.
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  Speaker 5: That.
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  Speaker 2: I like, Okay, I don't know how to say this properly.
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching real life play out on Gilmore Girls, so
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  Speaker 2: I don't really get to say, how dare she go
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  Speaker 2: back to him? She did, so it's like, Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 2: in because that's what she did, right, But I think.
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  Speaker 3: We're still allowed to have an opinion on that.
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  Speaker 2: Course of course. I'm just saying for me, that ending
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  Speaker 2: was not as horrible as I'm seeing most people felt
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  Speaker 2: it was. I was sort of like, oh wow, twisty twist,
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  Speaker 2: what's gonna happen next?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess for me, the ending was horrifying
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  Speaker 3: because it didn't need to get to that point. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if there had been a conversation earlier in the season,
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  Speaker 3: we didn't have to get to this point where the
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  Speaker 3: two of them just completely blow each other apart.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it was very relatable. I know so
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  Speaker 2: many girls that break up with their significant other and
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  Speaker 2: immediately call, maybe not the very same day, So I'll
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  Speaker 2: give you that a TV because you know whatever, call
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  Speaker 2: their high school boyfriend, call their ex. I mean, everybody
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  Speaker 2: like that's such a sort of cliche, like so many
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  Speaker 2: girls go running back to that the guy that always
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  Speaker 2: opens the door for him. So I didn't find it
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  Speaker 2: that outland dish. And you know, obviously, look there's thousands
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  Speaker 2: of comments of people that disagree with me. But I
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  Speaker 2: was like that tracks she got in this big fight,
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  Speaker 2: and of course she's going to run to Christopher.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it may have been predictable because she was
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  Speaker 3: she knew that Christopher was not going to turn her away,
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  Speaker 3: like she knew that Christopher was not going to reject
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  Speaker 3: her like Luke just had. But that doesn't mean it's
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  Speaker 3: not disappointing. Just because you can see it coming doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess. Yeah. That's that's sort of
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  Speaker 2: the interesting conversation. And I'm glad we're talking about it
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  Speaker 2: because I wasn't disappointed. That's not the word I would use.
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  Speaker 2: I was more like, oh, you know, like whoa.
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  Speaker 6: And on the other end, I didn't even feel that
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  Speaker 6: Like I wasn't disappointed. I didn't feel like whoa. I
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  Speaker 6: just was annoyed, annoyed, annoyed.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. After the bathroom, I think that bathroom
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  Speaker 2: scene was important because of the arm touch and you're like,
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  Speaker 2: oh man, there's still a little something there and when
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  Speaker 2: this explodes, just going right back to him. I don't know, Scott,
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  Speaker 2: like you know, now that it's been a week, how
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  Speaker 2: do you what's been going through your mind?
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  Speaker 1: A hell of a thing to do to the dream couple.
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  Speaker 1: It's a hell of a thing to do. Very risky,
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  Speaker 1: I think from a writer's standpoint and storytelling standpoint, it's
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  Speaker 1: very very risky what they do, and I think it
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  Speaker 1: shows that they have a lot of faith in Lauren
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  Speaker 1: as an actress and a lot of faith in me
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  Speaker 1: as an actor. Yeah, somehow find our way back to
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  Speaker 1: each other in season seven over time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point.
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  Speaker 1: So you could look at it that way. Yeah, you know, like,
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  Speaker 1: let's see how good these guys are, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: if they aren't, nobody's going to believe this, because this
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  Speaker 1: is a really extreme way to end season six.
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  Speaker 2: So that brings me to this question for you guys.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of times in shows they sort of know,
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  Speaker 2: like and especially these days, they know when they're going
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  Speaker 2: to end it, so that I think it's easier to
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  Speaker 2: write the show when you know, there's sort of an
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  Speaker 2: ending at year four, year eight, year seven, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think maybe Amy and Dan thought they might
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  Speaker 2: come back and that would be the final season, so
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  Speaker 2: they can't They didn't end season six with everything hunky dory,
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  Speaker 2: because then what are they doing and see and seven?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think there's any chance they intentionally broke them
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  Speaker 2: up to have the final season be them finding their
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  Speaker 2: way back to one another?
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  Speaker 1: So here's in a negotiation, any negotiation, you have to
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  Speaker 1: be willing to walk away to go what you really want, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And they were willing to walk away, and they drew
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  Speaker 1: a line in the sand, and you know, they they
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  Speaker 1: didn't get their two year deal. They didn't get what
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  Speaker 1: they wanted, and they said, well that's it then, and
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  Speaker 1: you know respect for that, right.
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  Speaker 2: I guess then that would mean seven to eight they
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  Speaker 2: wanted to go two more.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, probably beyond that. I mean the advertisers were
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  Speaker 1: screaming at Warner Brothers to bring that show back for
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  Speaker 1: multiple years.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't interested in seeing pilots of new shows. They
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  Speaker 1: wanted Gilmour back probably for you know, four years, five
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  Speaker 1: years after season I mean, it could have gone fifteen seasons,
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  Speaker 1: they just wanted more of it, you know, and people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, these highly intelligent, highly creative people, don't want
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  Speaker 1: to do it for fifteen right right, right, no, right, seven, seven, eight, Max. Probably,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's probably a hard show to do, exhausting.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't sleep. They Yeah, it's hard. That's a that's
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  Speaker 1: a hard that's a tall order, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So before we start talking to everybody, which we're going
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  Speaker 2: to your Scott's going to Danielle, what do you and
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  Speaker 2: you have no idea what do you see coming in
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  Speaker 2: season seven? If you were to like just make your guesses.
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  Speaker 2: I see.
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  Speaker 6: Logan going to London, Rory visiting him a few times,
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  Speaker 6: something happening that's going to break them up. And it's
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  Speaker 6: not just as simple as long distance. It's like, I
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: don't know, like he cheats on her or just some
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: something like that happens where they break up and Rory's devastated,
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: and then I'm hopeful that by the end of the season,
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: in the end of the series, just somehow comes back
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: in the pad. So that's that's why storyline number one, sorry,
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: I've actually thought about this. Storyline number two. I don't
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: think Luke and Laura Lai are going to find their
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: way back to each other. I think the damage has
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: been done and I'm not hopeful for that relationship. I
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: weirdly think that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: But a show, how do you? How do you? You've got
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to have a show that's a big part of the show.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Now, the show is them trying to give together and
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: just doesn't work out.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: I mean and look probably wrong, so whatever, But this is.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: My guess is you haven't seen it.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know anything. She's just giving her guesses.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Now I feel like I'm massively wrong, which is a
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: bummer or not a bummer. But and then I do
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: weirdly think that April is going to like try to
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: like smooth over their relationship, like she's gonna just jump
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: in and be like lorl like like I think she's
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: going to just try to somehow be.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Cool.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: What do you think of Christopher and Lorelai? What's gonna
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: happen with them? I think I don't.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: I don't think much about that, like in the sense
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: of I don't think she's gonna try to be with
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: him or or.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: I don't really see much happening there outside of what
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: they already do, right, Yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Can you give me like no, absolutely not Suzanne, after
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: like you know, and then Scott's going to talk to
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: everybody and I'm sure they're going to give him an earful.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: But Suzanne, what are your thoughts like after last you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: week's episode and like where your head is at?
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Well, So, I I didn't realize that we weren't doing
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: a recap today, So I actually watched the oh.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: You cheated pumpkin Eater?
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Oh I didn't.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I thought we were reaching.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: But you can't talk about it right now.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: So I know I'm not going to talk about it,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: but I I do appreciate the fact that you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: it was a season. The season ender was a typical cliffhanger,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: like I'm half of me is thinking, I really want
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: to find out that this whole Christopher thing was just
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: a dream, Like You're gonna wake up and she's back
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: at Sukie's house or something. So I I personally a
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: lot of people don't like season seven. I don't like
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: the first couple episodes of it, but I actually, overall,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I do like season seven. There's some great stuff in
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: season seven, so I'm kind of looking forward to seeing everybody.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I never had a problem with it, and Scott
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: like where, like, can is it coming back to you?
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Or are you like apprehensive?
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Now I have no idea. It's as if I've never
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: acted in this sho so I don't remember what happens
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: in season seven.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Are you nervous, No, you're just ready to get into it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm not nervous. I'm eager to I'm curious.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I'm hopefull, you know. I mean, I know we eventually
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: get married, like you know, ninety years later, but right
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: because I can't be that bad, right.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Well, so that's the one thing I sort of wanted
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: to like address because it keeps coming into my mind.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And Danielle, you don't need to take your headphones off.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: But there's a little bit of a spoiler the way
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: the series the movies end, Suzanne, I've been thinking about
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: so much because from what I understand, it's how the
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: show was supposed to end. Is that what? It's such
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: a great ending to season seven and such sort of
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a weird ending to the movies. Yes, So I've just
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: eve been thinking about that so much as we're entering
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: season seven now with hindsight knowing how they wanted to end.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: It, right, It makes a different impact when you're at
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: a different age, the character is at a different age. Yeah,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of looking forward to to watching those again
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: because I actually enjoyed the movie, so I think it'll
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: be a fun conversation when we get there for sure.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, Scott, we're bringing in everybody to talk to you,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet them. Hi, Lauren, how are
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you nice to meet you?
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: I'm good. It's nice to meet you.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Where are you calling in from?
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: I am in New York City?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Ah, the Big Apple? All right? Yeah, all right, so
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: laying honest, man, what what you got? What you got?
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: I was hoping you guys could compare the first and
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: second halves of Season six. I feel like there's a
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: pretty strong parallel between what Luke is dealing with with
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Loralai and Rory and then what Loralai deals with with
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Luke and April. But I feel like it it's been
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: my opinion that the writers always intended that to be
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: like a juxtaposition between the two, and then I feel
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: like Luke was ultimately more forbearing and more patient with that,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: and then Loralai sort of spirals downwards. But that's probably
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: a controversial opinion, So I just I was helping you
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: guys can kind of compare those two storylines for me, So.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: That's an interesting comment. I think that for me, the
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: big difference is that when Laurela I was dealing with
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: the separation from Rory, there was a defined end point
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: in that, so she told Luke that she needed to
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: wait to move forward until things were right with Rory,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Whereas with the Luke and April situation, Luke wasn't really
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: seeing what an impact he was having on Laurel I,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: and there wasn't really like a defined endpoint at which
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: he was going to bring her in. So to me,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: that's kind of what the difference between the two is.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: We all know how I feel because I feel so
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: it's a double standard for me, or you know, like
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: why did Luke just patiently deal right like he's just
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: like I'm gonna push off my needs.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I'm here to support you and Rory. I mean, even
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to the point where one of the reasons Lorli proposes
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: to him is because he's so fiercely loyal to her
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: in supporting the situation with Rory. So I've always had
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: more of an issue as everybody knows and screams at
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: me that Lorli didn't give him the same thing. Yes,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I understand, like she's hurt and he's not including her
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: where she did include him. But I've always felt like
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: we like, let's give him the same grace, right, the
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: same everything. And I think if you're in a true partnership,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: then you put your her own needs a side when
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: your partner is going through something so significant. And I
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: always felt like Luke did that and Loralai didn't.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how I feel too. I also feel like
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: he pushed her a little bit on his frustrations versus
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: her silence and then sort of implusion.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I think about this in the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: following way. Is Luke staying is the charter? Are the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: writers honoring the character of Luke? Is Luke acting in
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: a way that is consistent with his character in that
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: he displays this in this this incredible patience over an
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: eight year period waiting for Loralai. And you could say
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that there's that's passion, that's committed, that's patience, that's everything
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you want in a partner, steadfastness, faith, And I think
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: it proves that he will never even think about another
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: woman the rest of his life. And I think that's
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: what he that's what that character establishes in the first
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you first five seasons, and then up until the April thing.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: And I think his character doesn't change at all because
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: April arrives and now he's giving her the time, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and it's another selfless act. He's a very selfless character.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: He doesn't put himself first. He puts people he loves first. Laura,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I was always first. I'm going to wait for her.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to gamble that she is. I'm going to
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: wait it out and gamble that she's going to be
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: mine one day. And if she isn't, I don't care.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody else. And now here's April, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going to like, Okay, now I'm going to pay
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: attention to her. He doesn't have the capacity to do both.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: He's in a situation where life has thrown him a curveball,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and I don't know that it's that he doesn't react
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: well to it. He just does what he does, which
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: is he becomes He remains this selfless, steadfast figure who
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: wants to be a rock in his daughter's life, and
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: he wants to establish a relationship with her that's solid
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and grounded because he doesn't know what she's getting at
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: home from from Anna, and he wants to make sure
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that he's a port in the storm, and that takes
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: time to establish, and he understands that. And I was
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: disappointed that Laurel and I understand in a relationship, it's frustrating,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and Laurela has every right to to feel the way
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: she feels, but I was always surprised that she didn't
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: really understand that about him.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I think that Suzanne and Lauren, I'm curious what you
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: guys think of this. The fans that are so quick
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: to be sort of mad at Luke and team Lareli,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: are they not taking into account what a major thing
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: this is like To me, this is life altering. The
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: world has stopped. He just found out he has a kid.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: And I know, like Suzanne, you you have like a
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: sort of a different take on it. But for me,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: it's so like if I were Laurli, I would be like,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: take a year, take two years, take whatever you need
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: to feel comfortable with your daughter, and will be good
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: because we have forever.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know, That's what I don't I don't think
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: I would feel that patient, but at the same time,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: I think I would try to communicate that she just
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: didn't say anything until she couldn't take it anymore, and
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: so I.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Completely agree with that that was That was it for
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: me too, was because she was being quiet that whole time,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: because that's what Luke wanted. Like Luke didn't want her.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: She was she thought she was supporting him and in
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: forming his relationship with April, but then you know, she
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: waited so long and he wouldn't let her in that
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: it just eventually came to a head. And I completely
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: agreed there should have been a conversation way earlier. She
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: should not have just let it go until the point
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: where she just explodes all over him. She should have,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: you know, stood up for what she was feeling and
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: not not in a mean or aggressive way or demanding
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: to be with April or anything like that, but just
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: sort of like the conversation that they started to have
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: at Martha's vineyard, she was like, I just don't think
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: this wedding is going to happen. Like I wish they
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: could have kind of continued that discussion again so that
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: he could see the impact that the whole thing was
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: having on her.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: I think, do you think the writers intended the juxtaposition
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: like between the the two of the seasons.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I do, because that's why I see the hypocrisy. Like
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Luke was so there when Lorala I was in this
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: traumatic situation and patient, and yes he communicated how he
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: was feeling better than she did. But then when the
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: roles were reversed, she didn't, in my opinion, just my opinion,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: quite level up to what he had done when he
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: was in when she was in a situation. And that's
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: just how I saw it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I think, I think it was intentional, and I just
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I feel like I have to point out that the
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: whole situation even started because Luke is the one that
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: didn't communicate about April, Like that's kind of what set
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: the whole thing off. So he didn't communicate with her
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: about April, and then she didn't communicate, well.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: She didn't communicate right away that there was a problem
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: between her and Rory. I can't remember. I mean, she
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't communicate to the town. But there was one secret.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: There was one instance where Luke did try to tell her,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: but there was an interruption.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that happens a couple of times.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does happen a couple of times.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: He did try a few times, but she kept trying.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, but it's also what a big scary thing.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think everyone's so quick to be
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: like he should have just told her.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I think you see like the best of Luke in
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: the first half and then like the worst. It's sort
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: of like him and his absolute, you know, most magnificent,
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: supportive and then all of his communication failures that he
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: struggles with.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I never saw it as the worst of him. That's
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: just me, and I know everybody just like guts me
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: for it. But I just see a person trying to
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: deal with something that's so humongous, and like you, when
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: you are in real life and you're dealing with that,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: You're not going to do it perfectly. You're going to
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: probably mess it up super bad. You look like Lowerli
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: with brown eyes.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Oh thanks, they're green, but I'll take that.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Oh sorry, this is zoom, but I just got blue.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Oh oh my gosh, what do you do in New York?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Are you?
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: I am a stay at home mom to four kids.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Oh nice?
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's it's crazy.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: How did you even find the time or peace to
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: join our show.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: My husband was really excited for me. So if you
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: took the kids outside, what age is ten, eight, six
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: and three?
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Oh god? In the city or out bedrooms?
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Did you see rooms on the Upper West Side?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wait, kids in one bedroom?
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, bunk beds. You know.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I know all my friends from New York are like,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: it's totally fine. They moved to LA and they're like,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I live in a mansion and it's like a two
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: bedroom department. They're like, like.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: I was raised in Orange County, so I do sort
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: of know the opposite option, and I've chosen this. So
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: it was the Gilmore Girls. They gave me the East
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: Coast desire.
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: So sweet.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Before you go, how do you feel about season seven?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Have you seen that last week?
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: I actually, after I listened to your recap, I just
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: binged season seven. I feel like you have to get
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: it out of your system and you can't start it,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: like you can't take it slowly. I feel for you guys,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: because it's so painful and then it gets better. But
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: I feel okay about season seven. When it first aired,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I was in high school and it was honestly more
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: than my heart could handle. I was really I was
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: really angsty about it. But now that I'm you know,
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: an adult, I feel I feel better about it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we let Danielle go because we were we didn't
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: want to in case there are spoilers.
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: Daniel we didn't let her go, but we let her
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: go to Day No Longer with the podcast.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Where was that, you know, paranoid.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Lose her?
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we want people to be able to like
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: speak freely, and it's really hard to sort of analyze
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: the whole show without analyzing the whole show. But well
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: that's what I felt like.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: I was like, now I have to do this in
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: context of like, I think Christopher is just something she's
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: got to get out of her system.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Do you do you hate Christopher like Susanna.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: Like so much?
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: Like I can't.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: I cannot handle him. No, Scott Luke was my first crush.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I was very you know, impressionable age and Christopher was
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: so I was like, he's so easy, and I'm like the.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Only person that likes Christopher in the universe. But I don't.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I like Luke better obviously, but.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: We need to get you into rehab.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: I know it's okay to like him, it's just not
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: okay for her. To end up with Laurela I like.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: She does.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I can say, by the way, I think
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: all the haters who don't like you are not true
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Gilmore fans because you have Lorelai energy.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Laura that thank you.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: They are Russian Russian bots and they are rival the
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Gilmour podcasts.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Pretty specific for being boughts. But it's okay. I can
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: take it. I only cry every single Monday. It's fine.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: It's my job to read it. But thank you. And
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I do think. Look, look, Laurel, I went back to him,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: So maybe I I'm Laura Ali because I get it.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I think you're right
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: about getting it out of her system again and again
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: and again.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Why did they have to make us watch? That's the thing.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Couldn't they have just like, you know, after the fact,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: and we could figure it out and piece it together
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: and then go or oh.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: It's so funny. It's not hard for me to watch them,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: because I hear Lauren saying that, like, oh it's hard
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: to watch, and I'm like, isn't they're sort of cute?
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Can't we they give us a chance to turn away?
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: They're too similar, like they're they're made of the same stuff.
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, that's true.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: It's like too much of the you know, the shtick
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: and like that balance.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: So I don't know that's a good take, actually, Lauren,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know what Queen Suzanne thinks on that. But
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: there there, that's a good take.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I guess somebody interrupted me. So I didn't hear it.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Suzanne just in the bathroom throwing up because were talking
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: about this. She hears Kristph walk in say goadbye, oh
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: mister Susanne. I had to interrupt us with his loved Lauren.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: You rock.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, thank you so you guys. It's Monday mornings. It's
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: like a highlight when I see that new episode every Monday.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: No, thanks so much.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Get ready for season seven.
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: I can't wait.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: I can't wait. All right, Well, thank you guys so much.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, best of the little ones.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: Thank you bye.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Dorothy.
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: Hello, it's so nice to meet you.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: So nice to have you back where we belong. Nice
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: to see you, Dorothy. Where are you calling.
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: From Malvern, Pennsylvania?
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Malvern?
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you're probably familiar with that area.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: We had family friends from Malvern.
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: No way, real way way, Oh my goodness.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, My first experience at sleepover Camp, when I
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: was like nine years old, was with my good buddy
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: from Malvern.
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: Wow, that is so funny.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Did you go to Malvern Prep?
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: I did not. I'm not. I didn't grow up here.
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: We're raising our kids here. I'm originally from Long Island,
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: New York.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: One home, Long Island. They so, what do you got
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: for us? Dorothy?
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: So I have two questions for you. When did Amy
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: and Dan actually know they weren't coming back to be
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: there to write it?
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know. I've been jogging my memory
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: and I just don't know. I don't know. I don't
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: think that anybody really knew. But I do recall them
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: telling us individually that they were moving on and that
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: they you know, and the reasons why, and it was
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: it was very emotional.
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: Did they tell you during season six?
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I don't think it was during season six,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: but maybe during the hiatus we got a phone call
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: or I got a phone call, or we had a
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: lunch something like that. It's not It's not very clear
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to me, but I just remember nothing like that happened
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: during filming for me anyway, And I wish I just
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: had a better memory of how I found out or so.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: You know, these negotiations are protracted, they're they're very long,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and they can last. It probably lasted the entire hiatus
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: right up until you know, they had to reassemble the
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: writing team and going on their twenty two scripts because
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: you can't let too much time lag before you go
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: back into production. You know, you got to you got
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: to build up your inventory of scripts.
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: And that's right, they got a writing way ahead before.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: You way ahead. Yeah, because that's twenty two episodes. That's
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: not like now it's easier, it's ten. It's still rough now.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: If you don't, if you don't get ahead of it,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you get behind schedule, and it's chaos. It's just total chaos.
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: I can imagine.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So but it was a big deal. Yeah, it
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: was a big deal.
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: Did they have a contract for six seasons and then
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: they needed.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: To do everybody?
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: Did you all did?
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Every that's the that's the standard contract that you signed.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: It has six renewable options I'm sorry, five renewable option years.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: There's either a you either get a six year deal
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: or a seven year deal. They obviously had a six
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: year deal. I think I had a seven year deal,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and every all the actors had a seven seven year
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: deals and they had to renegotiate on eighth. So but
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: it could have been six and we renegotiated on a
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: one year deal for a seven.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: And you wouldn't really know what's happening with someone else's deal.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: You're kind of doing your own deal, and you would
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: never know that someone else's deal might be going sideways.
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: So you all don't know what's going on with everybody else.
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: It's just your own contract. And then.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: You know, your attorney can call somebody else's attorney's negotiating,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: find out where they are and what's going on this
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: kind of thing, and compare notes because that can be
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: advantageous in both negotiations. But no, no, nobody. I didn't
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: know what was going on with Amy and Dance negotiations.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: It was just a shock. I remember just being shocked
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: that they didn't get a two year deal, which is
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: standard on a hit show. After six seasons, to get
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: a two year deal, it's really sort of the standard.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: They felt very well, they just felt like they had
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: to move on. They had other stories to tell me.
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: I wonder did they you know, knowing well, I guess
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: they didn't know by the end of season six, or
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: did they know by the end of season six things
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: weren't going to work out.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know it.
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: We're going to continue without them, I think just hanging.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: But how long can you, you know, continue to entertain
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: a one year deal offer? That's not a lot of
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: faith there from the studio. Yeah, like, look what we
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: you know, you guys are making a bundle off this
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: show or you know you're now in the in the
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: black and and things are good and you've got a
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: syndication deal and the DVD money is good, and like,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: what come on, guys? You know the advertisers putting a
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: lot of pressure to bring the show back for multiple years.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: You can't give us a two year deal. I mean really,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I mean you want to risk the quality of the
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: show with like, you know, running us out of town,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: and you know you cannot you can't function under a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: one year deal. You just can't do it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So they walked, So they.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Walked, Yeah their credit they walked. Yeah.
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah. So the cast you found out probably during hiatus,
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: how was what was the vibe your all of you
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: coming back your first day filming for season seven? I mean,
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: how did you all feel. I can imagine how you felt.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: But well, listen, a it's always good to have a job,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: a steady job in that town. They're hard to get.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, we were a little anxious. The scripts
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: were really good, they were really strong. Uh you know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: we we we just had a lot of faith. I mean,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: you've got us be positive and stay positive to do
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that job anyway, you know, to come into work and
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: you know, to give them twelve hours or fourteen hours
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: everything you got and then come back next day, do
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: same thing, next day, do same thing. You know. They're
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: really can't be resistance, you know. It's like you got
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: to be all in. Yeah, and you have to stay positive.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, this happened. They're not here anymore.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: We have a new reality. Let's make the best of this.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: And the guy that comes in isn't a stranger to
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: you all, which helped.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we know, and he'd written some great episodes.
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, I was going to ask, did you know
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: who the new writer was?
• 46:23
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: And he's taking Amy and Dan's baby and just kind
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: of finishing it.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Off for that Yeah, like he was. They chose him
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: you know, with their blessing, it's like he can handle this. Yeah, okay,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: and yeah, so I'm really eager to see and watch
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: these season seven episodes because I'll, you know, I'll be
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: very interested to see how how how it comes off.
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: It's a rollercoaster of ari just as but you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: it is what it is, and it's the story and
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: you know, the Gilmore Girls story, and I love it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: It just it is what it is, and right right, hey,
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: I enjoyed it. There are some episodes I don't like,
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: and there were some I didn't like in season six,
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: but watch them. I don't watch them and just move
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: on to the next one.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Listen, You're always going to get a bunch of laughs,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: even if the story kareems off the road a little bit.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: You know, you're always going to get your twenty laughs
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: You are that there are episodes and I'm like, I
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: don't want to watch this one, and then I watch
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: it and I'm like, you know, it's better than I remember,
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: and it's and exactly, it's a great show.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've watched some stinker episodes, but I laughed all
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: the way through. Yeah, and it's like it's a joy
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: it's a real joy because they're funny.
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: They really are.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Those palatines are. They have the best sense of humor.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: They're hysterically funny. Great writers they do.
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: And you know, I get most of them and a
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: lot of their your pop culture references, some of the stuff.
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, that is so clever.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: They right, right, you come up with some great It's
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: not fair. It's just not fair to two brains that
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: work like that working together. It's not fair. It's not
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: a fair fight, right, it's not.
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: It's not.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: So it's really no surprise to me that they went
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: on and did what they did with with MASL And yeah,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: it's not a.
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: Surprise, and they are a new one that you're doing now,
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: So it's you know, they're working on at least we hear.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: And you know, I remember sending Amy a very long
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: email after they left about how much I believe in
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: her and what's coming for them and for her and
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the golden statues that are you know, waiting patiently the
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: engraver to engrave their names on those statues. And it happened,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: and I knew it would happen. Yeah, they just needed
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: to get you know, they needed to tell these other
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: stories because it wasn't happening with Gilmore Girls. They weren't
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: getting the recognition they deserved. And I'm sure you know
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: it was a bittersweet parting, but it was like, I
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: think they were excited for the new opportunities because they
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: didn't know. It's wide open, right, they didn't know. I mean,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: they did Bunheads and that only lasted what a year
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: or two? And then they did another thing.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: They did another thing with my bun Heads, Right, did
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: you watch Bunheads?
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: I did not know.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: It's pretty good. I'm not gonna lie.
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: I always come late to the party, so I didn't
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: watch Gilmore Girls when it was airing. I was raising
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: little kids at the time and was too exhausted. So
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: I came, oh, gosh, I don't know, maybe twenty twelve
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: or so, I started watching all the reruns of them
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: and just fell in love with the show. And I've
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: watched it. Oh, I can't tell you how many times
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: I've watched it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: But I've seen some Missus masl and man, that is
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: a good show.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: There is. Well, I'm sort of like, I don't know, Scott.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I'm excited and nervous about season seven.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: But I'm not nervous.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Next week it's happening.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Look if they if they're stinker real, we're going to
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: chop them up. But good.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Dorothy, thank you so much.
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: Thank you for asking me. I got to show you
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: a music.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: We love it.
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: I love you guys. I love your podcast. You're all
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: so great. Scott, Amy, Danielle, Suzanne.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: You guys are great. Listen to you every Monday and
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: watch the episodes that you're talking about, just so I'm
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: fresh with them and I just love what you're doing.
• 51:02
  Speaker 8: This is great, and just keep it going and then
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: you're in the life. Just you know, drag those out.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: We're going to drag it out. We're not going anywhere.
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you got a couple more years going here.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Thank you.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: In touch.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Please please please stay in touch.
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: Thank you. It's a pleasure meeting you all.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Take care. Hi Michelle, Hi, Hi, how are you guys? Good?
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Where are you calling from.
• 51:37
  Speaker 10: From Edmonton, Alberta, Canada?
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, where you were? What Canada is Edmondton, Halifax? Yeah?
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I'm.
• 51:54
  Speaker 10: Close to the Rockies. Actually, oh yeah, I'm about four
• 51:58
  Speaker 10: hour drive away. From Jasper baths. I don't know if
• 52:01
  Speaker 10: you're yeah, yeah, it's about zero today.
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: I guess you're up there.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cold, it's cold.
• 52:12
  Speaker 10: What can you do? Right?
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: So?
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: You can play hockey, hiking, I love hockey. You can
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: do all kinds of stuff that you.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Can give us a juicy Gilmore girls question.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, right, you can talk.
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: I can also confirm that snow has a definite smell
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: for sure, I smell.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I agree with that.
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: I do.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: So.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:37
  Speaker 10: So I came up with my question just kind of
• 52:40
  Speaker 10: based on the conversation between Lenny and Laureli in the car,
• 52:45
  Speaker 10: the impromptu session they had. And you know, I was
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: reading the comments after your your podcast about the episode,
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: and a lot of people were piling on Luke and Laureli,
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: and I thought, wait a minute, what's Lenny's role in
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: all of this? Like they you know, Lenny saidator, yeah,
• 53:06
  Speaker 10: I mean, well we had Laurel. I say, I could
• 53:08
  Speaker 10: lose him if I pushed too hard, and then Lenny said, well,
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: it doesn't look like you have him right now, and
• 53:15
  Speaker 10: you know, then she goes, things don't always work out
• 53:18
  Speaker 10: the way we want them to. So I don't know,
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: I have a definite opinion on what you know, her
• 53:23
  Speaker 10: role was in all of this, but he felt.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Kind of an overstep of a therapist.
• 53:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and you know, I thought she was a little
• 53:31
  Speaker 10: bit cavalier in it, you know, giving out her advice
• 53:35
  Speaker 10: and stuff. But so and you know, if you have
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: a PhD behind your name, there's a level of gravitas
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: that comes with like a little social responsibility, I guess,
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: is what I was thinking.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's a good question, Scott, what do you
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: think of that? Because pacts Luke Lenny really impacts Luke.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I agree with Michelle. I think there's a lawsuit there.
• 53:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, a law suit. Well, I think for sure it
• 54:01
  Speaker 10: changed the trajectory for Laura. And the second part of
• 54:04
  Speaker 10: my question was if that whole thing hadn't happened, how
• 54:07
  Speaker 10: how would you have imagined her dealing with things like
• 54:10
  Speaker 10: when she had just gone home and eating a box
• 54:12
  Speaker 10: of pop tarts or you.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Know, let's look at how Laurlai handles things. Now, let's
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: look back on the historical record. How does Laurela I
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: handle things? How does she handle stress?
• 54:27
  Speaker 10: She's impulsive?
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Let's say she's a little bit impulsive, right, Yeah, so
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: you know, and that and she stays true to character.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: And I the only one that would have liked to
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: see Luke and you know, I'm team.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Luke, but just to have teams.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Almost like I think I talked about this, I can't
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: remember if it's like if I talked about it on
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: the air or off.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: The air A Rory or who are your team Rory?
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Me or Michelle no Amy? Are your team Rory? There is?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Are there teams with Rory.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: No I'm pretty much always all about Laurlai.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Right, but are you on her team? Because there's rivals? Right?
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Here's my question for you, all of you, all of you, Okay,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I want of love for Luke, who is always the
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: voice of reason to me, to have said kind of
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: hugged her, right or you know, because I don't want
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: to say grabbed her because that seems like wrong, but
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: sort of grabbed her and said, let's take a deep breath.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Let's just take a deep breath, like I love you.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: You know that we are going to figure this out
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: and talk to me.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no drama, of course, I'm just but I'm
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: just how are you going to piss off the fans
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: if you do that? Which is you know, I'm just
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: being glib, but it's right. I mean, like all intentional, what.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Would you have liked to have seen?
• 56:06
  Speaker 10: Well, I'm kind of on board with you, but to
• 56:09
  Speaker 10: take it a step further, I would have preferred if
• 56:11
  Speaker 10: she had at least waited till the diner was closed.
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: Knowing how private Luke is like, that was humiliating for him.
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: I felt really bad for him. Actually, you know, the
• 56:21
  Speaker 10: public dressing down and stuff like that, they for sure
• 56:24
  Speaker 10: had to talk. I just would have liked to have
• 56:26
  Speaker 10: seen her, you know, wait till there was no customers
• 56:29
  Speaker 10: around and done it privately and screened at each other,
• 56:33
  Speaker 10: scream at each other in the diner when he's not
• 56:36
  Speaker 10: you know, in the middle of something or whatever.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: And my flag, which I did throw. I did not
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: like the line. I did not like her saying she
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: had a staff meeting when she didn't. I did not
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: like her making you know, miss Patty cover for her.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I thought that was weird, and I actually don't. That
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: didn't track with the character for me. I don't really
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: see Laura like doing that. Yeah, but she did it.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: But so well, you guys, you say how you feel.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I feel like if that conversation,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: so I don't know that the therapist was necessarily overstepping.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: She did make the point to laurel I that Laurelai
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: is the only one that can keep waiting, like Lorela
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: needs to make a decision as to what she's gonna
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: do and then live with the consequences either way. So
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like if that conversation hadn't happened, she may
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: not have gone straight to Luke that night and and
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: given him that ultimatum, But I think it still would
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: have boiled over at some point somehow, Like she already
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: felt crappy before she had that conversation with Lenny, So
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: she already, like Amy was saying, she was already avoiding
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Luke like it was gonna come to a head at
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: some point.
• 57:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true. I can see your point for sure.
• 58:00
  Speaker 10: I just kind of I just kind of think Lenny
• 58:02
  Speaker 10: kind of steered her, like Laura, I was just looking
• 58:04
  Speaker 10: for somebody tell me what to do because I'm freaking out,
• 58:07
  Speaker 10: you know, right, Because.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: She could have had, as ye say, Lenny was like
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: a different type of therapist that said take a deep breath,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: like you got you've got nothing but time like this
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: is who you love, he loves you. You have let's
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: hope fifty years together. It's okay if it takes six
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: more months. Like that was sort of my thing is
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: she was so panicky when I'm like, I get that
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: she wants to have another kid, but I don't think
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: the like caluck is ticking quite so bad, Like what's
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: the rush?
• 58:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, and I just think, you know, she
• 58:44
  Speaker 10: probably worked herself up even more on the drive home
• 58:47
  Speaker 10: from from Hartford to stars Hollow.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Right hotally, Oh my god.
• 58:53
  Speaker 10: You know Hurricane Laurela. I blew in And now it's
• 58:55
  Speaker 10: like Luke didn't stand a chance.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you are you little Lenny, now that I
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: think about it.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: No, I mean I'm not irrational. No, I'm not paved
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: at her. I just thought, I mean I just couldn't.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I haven't been able to get any sleep then since
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I you know, I just I don't know, Lenny. Yeah,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I mean we talked about it. I thought it was
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit of an overreach. But I just think
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: with this kind of.
• 59:36
  Speaker 11: It's a TV series, it's a serial, it's a it's
• 59:42
  Speaker 11: you know, you have to give an audience these you know,
• 59:47
  Speaker 11: these kind of story beats to.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Keep them engaged. You know, it's difficult writing twenty two
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: episodes and keeping people hooked. You know, it's really hard.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: So I think you you, maybe in these situations, are
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: on the side of excess. I think they there are
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of nuance. There's a lot of nuance and
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of subtlety and everything that's going on in
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: the show. But in the big story beats, I think
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: you can afford to be a little clumsy because people
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: really definitively know that it happened, and they engage and
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: they talk about it, and they don't like it, and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: some defend it, and it's all very It's good for
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: the show if people are engaged in talking about it,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: even if they're ticked off. And I don't think it's
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: so far afield that it just like kind of knocks
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: people out of the show. Oh that's so absurd. I'm
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: not going to watch it again. No, it's just a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: it's just a These are.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: It's dramatic moves, but they all tract.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 10: For me, right, And you know, I did really enjoy
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 10: that scene in the car. I thought that was, you know,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 10: kind of a nice quiet come down moment before it
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 10: escalated again, like, and.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: How did you feel about the ending scene? Am I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: still on an island? I was the only one who
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't that mad about it.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 10: I was thinking, you know, Christopher was a little cocky,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 10: and don't get too excited about this. You're to be
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 10: there forever without giving away anything. But yeah, so yeah,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 10: it was really you know, it was seeing her the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 10: look on her face was like, oh god.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: So yeah.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Suzanne had a good call out on that that it's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: very similar the beginning and the end of the episode,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: so for sure.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah. If I can just add one more thing that
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 10: was kind of sad? Did you guys find it sad
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 10: that the one and only time that lore likes that
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 10: I love you to Luke was when she was screaming
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 10: at him in the Hired show. And I just thought, oh, like,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: he's done so much for her, you know, saved her
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 10: dog's life and given her money and done you know everything.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: She's okay, So this begs a question, do you guys
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: think that she's terribly sentimental?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: M or I think she protects herself so much.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: It's the humor. It's the humor is her her armor.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which which we had another person on the show
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: that kind of called out, and it's making me think
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: that Christopher and Laura l I both do that sort
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: of sticky you know, which I always like because I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: think their banter is so fun. It's true they are
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: kind of both doing that where the reason Luke is
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: so great with her is he is steady to her,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 10: You know, oh yeah for sure.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and growing up the way she did, she probably Yeah,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 10: she wasn't a sentimental type person, so.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which I won't give anything away, but there are
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: some revelations in season seven where she starts to sort
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: of realize some of these things. Yeah, there are some
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: sort of aha moments for Morlai coming up.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: And the household that she grew up and was not
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: particularly demonstrative, like I don't think that Emily and Richard
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: were ever saying I love you excessively.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: You know, she just didn't grow up in a people
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: for expressing their affection for each other.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 10: That's true. Even with Rory, she wasn't overly openly affectionate
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 10: or anything.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: So yeah, she's not sort of smushy mushy.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 10: No, she's not one of those people like well Amy,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 10: I don't know I'm still not a Christopher family as
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 10: you are, but you know, I appreciate what you're saying.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Like I'm trying because I feel like he's so significant
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: and I don't find him to be all bad. He's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: not great.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Listen, listen, Michelle, We're going to do an intervention with
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: any Okay, don't tell her. We're going to surprise her
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: one day. We're all going to end up in one
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: of her mansions or one of hers and we're going
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: to get her in to rehab.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we're going to de Christopher, de Christopher.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: We're gonna.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 10: Have you seen some of the nicknames he has among
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 10: the fans, God.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Give us a couple.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: I actually probably.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 10: Have probably the one of the most predominant one and
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 10: I have. I've gotten so used to typing this out.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 10: Is exta her?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that a couple I saw that. It's actually really funny.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 10: Uh sometimes you refer to him as the C word.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 10: We don't even actually say his name.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: God, people hate him.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 10: I know, it's so funny. You know, I can kind
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 10: of see he is. He's cute. I'll give him out
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 10: my he's.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Charming, and they have this connection and like sometimes he
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: redeems himself, like you know, he's always there for her.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know, is ish everybody ish?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 10: I mean, how boring would it be if nobody liked
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 10: Christopher right, like among you guys, Like somebody has got
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: to like the guys.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Right he's a pure villain, like you know, he's not
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: a villain, he's just sort of hopeless. Michelle, you rock.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Please stay in touch with us.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 11: Gosh, thank you, thank you.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 10: Take care of.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Thank yous are coming.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, we have the coolest people.
• 1:05:49
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• 1:05:54
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• 1:05:58
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• 1:05:59
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• 1:06:02
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• 1:06:05
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