Latest / Reality with The King / Grand Dame, Grand Divide | RHOP Recap with Dustin, Blue and Dominique
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
- 0:10Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
- 0:13Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
- 0:27Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
- 0:31Speaker 1: scripted as well. Let's get into the Real Housewives of Potomac.
- 0:39Speaker 1: This episode was full of personal story. I want to
- 0:42Speaker 1: kick things off with talking about new Potomac housewife, Courtney,
- 0:47Speaker 1: who was lingerie shopping with Ashley and Karen.
- 0:50Speaker 2: And in this scene, Courtney has revealed that she is,
- 0:54Speaker 2: you know, prophetic. She's a prophet. She said, I can
- 0:59Speaker 2: see dead people.
- 1:01Speaker 1: She said that she could see angels and demons and
- 1:06Speaker 1: she's had this special asset going for herself since she
- 1:12Speaker 1: was a child and she also has seen demons manifest
- 1:16Speaker 1: in people.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Blue, obviously I'm starting with you.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Courtney also was being asked by Ashley based on some
- 1:28Speaker 1: of her commentary in her car about the world ending
- 1:32Speaker 1: during COVID, the electricity.
- 1:34Speaker 2: All those things. But what are your thoughts on Kourtney?
- 1:37Speaker 2: Because you're clairvoyant, right?
- 1:39Speaker 3: Kourtney is it.
- 1:41Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:45Speaker 2: So blue. I couldn't wait to ask you these questions.
- 1:50Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Kourtney and her special powers?
- 1:54Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Okay.
- 1:55Speaker 5: You think she got the oil blue?
- 1:57Speaker 2: No, she don't.
- 1:58Speaker 3: Don't buy nothing from Blue Centric Shop, Kourtney. Please, I
- 2:01Speaker 3: don't want no credit for that.
- 2:02Speaker 5: I like Kourtney, by the way.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I think she's interesting.
- 2:05Speaker 3: You like them kooky.
- 2:06Speaker 2: So here's the thing.
- 2:09Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's an endorsement, Carlos. Ooh, mess. Yay.
- 2:14Speaker 2: What does that mean?
- 2:17Speaker 6: So as a clerk cognizant, as in I do this professionally,
- 2:20Speaker 6: it's how I pay my mortgage and stuff. I get
- 2:25Speaker 6: nervous when people who I fear might be having religious
- 2:28Speaker 6: psychosis claim to be claircognizant or clairvoyant or clairsentient.
- 2:33Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
- 2:37Speaker 7: I'm so sorry because I don't mean no harm.
- 2:41Speaker 5: But this nigga just said.
- 2:44Speaker 7: People who are experiencing religious psychosis claim to be clairvoyant.
- 2:49Speaker 3: What? Okay, I just, I get scared because they're not
- 2:52Speaker 3: the same. Okay, let's not get them crossed.
- 2:54Speaker 6: No, I had a cousin who got, you know, diagnosed
- 2:57Speaker 6: with schizophrenia. And the first thing they took away was
- 3:02Speaker 6: his Bible because he had religious psychosis.
- 3:04Speaker 3: And so I'm just saying, legally, not legally, clinically speaking, I.
- 3:10Speaker 6: Don't think that she's kindred in that way. And I
- 3:14Speaker 6: do think that she believes that she's a prophet. It's
- 3:17Speaker 6: just really weird talking about angels and demons while Karen
- 3:20Speaker 6: is showing flashbacks of her slapping Ashley's cheeks.
- 3:23Speaker 3: It was a lot happening in the edit. For me,
- 3:27Speaker 3: nothing about that felt holy. You know what I mean?
- 3:29Speaker 3: So it was lots of jiggling, crooked wigs, ass cheeks.
- 3:32Speaker 3: It was just a lot. I think she's a kooky character.
- 3:36Speaker 6: We love Stacey for being kooky, so I'm not turned
- 3:39Speaker 6: off by it, right? So I'm saying that the religious stuff,
- 3:42Speaker 6: if I saw her in the front seat of her
- 3:44Speaker 6: car saying the end of days is happening next Thursday...
- 3:46Speaker 6: And we have plans on Friday and you showed up.
- 3:48Speaker 6: I feel like the calendar would tell you maybe you
- 3:50Speaker 6: weren't right, Prophet. But sure, we can play along. I
- 3:54Speaker 6: just hope that she gets less out of this religious
- 3:58Speaker 6: bag and more into other stuff because I think she's
- 4:01Speaker 6: more interesting than that. I think her talking about her
- 4:04Speaker 6: fertility struggle was way more interesting than her speaking in tongues.
- 4:07Speaker 6: I think her and her husband and showing how he
- 4:09Speaker 6: holds space for her was way, you know we love
- 4:12Speaker 6: to see a supportive husband, all one and a half
- 4:13Speaker 6: of them that show up every season, right? Every season
- 4:16Speaker 6: y'all get one good husband and maybe a leg of
- 4:18Speaker 6: somebody else. So the fact that she seems to have
- 4:20Speaker 6: the one husband that they're going to share all season,
- 4:22Speaker 6: I love that for her.
- 4:23Speaker 3: Let's lean to that.
- 4:24Speaker 6: Her boys think she on bullshit. Let's let into your
- 4:26Speaker 6: kids think of you nuts too. Like there's so much
- 4:28Speaker 6: fun to her. I just don't want to hear about
- 4:30Speaker 6: angels and demons and prophets and ass cheeks. It's just,
- 4:33Speaker 6: it don't, it's not, I know I'm Buddhist.
- 4:36Speaker 3: I should mind my business, but it's just not, it's
- 4:38Speaker 3: not hitting from what I remember from my church days.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Dominique Morgan.
- 4:43Speaker 4: You know, um, I'm.
- 4:47Speaker 8: Not going to knock anybody's calling and the things I'm
- 4:50Speaker 8: a Pisces.
- 4:51Speaker 4: Listen, I love it. That's what Raven said. Listen, it's my.
- 4:56Speaker 8: That being said, I think one, I want to see
- 5:02Speaker 8: this conversation with the former First Lady.
- 5:06Speaker 4: So I want to see how Giselle processes this. Right?
- 5:11Speaker 8: Because I think that is That's an important conversation. I
- 5:15Speaker 8: know Giselle has the, it's like she has the vertical
- 5:17Speaker 8: coming out.
- 5:18Speaker 4: That's about like the church ladies and stuff like that.
- 5:21Speaker 8: But like being oily in church, there's specific language you
- 5:24Speaker 8: can give when it's like being prophetic in the church space.
- 5:29Speaker 8: And then there's a way the language can land to
- 5:31Speaker 8: where they treat you like you Harry Potter.
- 5:32Speaker 4: So I want to see how, you know what I'm saying?
- 5:35Speaker 8: Like you can only go so far with that with
- 5:38Speaker 8: the very churchy folks.
- 5:39Speaker 4: And the other thing is like, I agree with Blue.
- 5:44Speaker 8: It's like, y'all need to come on these shows and
- 5:48Speaker 8: entrench us in the things about your personality that will
- 5:52Speaker 8: make us love you so much to where we'll have
- 5:54Speaker 8: grace when you say dumb stuff.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Stacey.
- 5:57Speaker 8: Don't start with stuff that some people may not believe in.
- 6:02Speaker 8: I remember when I first started teaching in the classroom,
- 6:05Speaker 8: my principal told all of us to say things that 80%
- 6:10Speaker 8: of the world believes in. Like start with that, right?
- 6:14Speaker 8: So like every child deserves food, right? Now the type,
- 6:20Speaker 8: like most people will believe with that, agree with that, right?
- 6:22Speaker 8: The type of food will differ. So when you're introducing yourself,
- 6:26Speaker 8: you start there with truth and then you introduce down
- 6:30Speaker 8: the line, hey- I'm giving a Melinda ghost whisperer set.
- 6:35Speaker 4: And you know, I'm walking. And also you in this,
- 6:38Speaker 4: you in two girdles.
- 6:40Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just the whole,
- 6:41Speaker 8: it's the homie gage. It's the homie gage, but I'm interested.
- 6:46Speaker 8: And in closing, stop giving these girls reads that they're
- 6:50Speaker 8: going to say for the reunion. Because I would wear
- 6:52Speaker 8: her out if her husband ever cheats on her. If
- 6:54Speaker 8: anything goes bad, be like, well, girl, why didn't you
- 6:56Speaker 8: see it?
- 6:56Speaker 5: Right.
- 6:57Speaker 3: You ain't know?
- 6:58Speaker 4: I would wear her out. So, like, quit setting yourself
- 7:02Speaker 4: up for the read. Yep.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Dustin Ross?
- 7:06Speaker 7: Yeah. I, too, am interested to see how the intersection
- 7:11Speaker 7: of her.
- 7:12Speaker 5: Now, Blue, what is she? Is she clairvoyant or claircognizant?
- 7:15Speaker 3: No, she a prophet.
- 7:16Speaker 5: Claire Cappin.
- 7:17Speaker 3: She's not even on the same.
- 7:19Speaker 5: Okay. Well, whatever she is.
- 7:22Speaker 7: I'm interested in seeing the intersection of that with the
- 7:24Speaker 7: church shit. Because them church, especially black church people, that's
- 7:28Speaker 7: right up there with being gay. You know what I'm saying?
- 7:30Speaker 7: Fucking with the occult or anything like that. They do
- 7:33Speaker 7: not play that.
- 7:34Speaker 5: They don't.
- 7:35Speaker 7: So I'll be interested to see how that plays out.
- 7:37Speaker 7: But I'm really trying not to, honestly, as I've been
- 7:40Speaker 7: watching this season, and we've had limited exposure to Kourtney
- 7:45Speaker 7: and her family, but I've been trying to ignore that
- 7:47Speaker 7: whole church angle in addition to now the prophetess shit.
- 7:52Speaker 7: and just get to know her in spite of it.
- 7:53Speaker 7: Because honestly, just being transparent tonight, if I focus on that,
- 7:57Speaker 7: she's going to get.
- 7:58Speaker 5: On my nerves.
- 7:59Speaker 7: And I don't want to have no negative experience with
- 8:01Speaker 7: her as a viewer yet.
- 8:02Speaker 5: She ain't done nothing.
- 8:04Speaker 7: So I feel like if I just divert my focus,
- 8:06Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, from all of that to
- 8:10Speaker 7: just like how she engages with the other ladies as
- 8:12Speaker 7: we go into these cast trips and shit, I'll get
- 8:15Speaker 7: a better glimpse into, I think, the more likable parts
- 8:18Speaker 7: of her personality, which I'm eager to encounter.
- 8:21Speaker 5: So, yeah.
- 8:22Speaker 3: You're so chivalrous.
- 8:25Speaker 1: I do want to get into Karen and Ray's scene next.
- 8:30Speaker 1: This was a very hard scene to watch. It opens
- 8:35Speaker 1: up with Karen admitting that she sleeps in separate rooms
- 8:39Speaker 1: because she chooses to, that it happened a lot, you know,
- 8:44Speaker 1: before she went to jail, but that since coming home
- 8:48Speaker 1: is pretty much their new normal. Ray comes down the
- 8:52Speaker 1: stairs she asks Ray if he is avoiding her and
- 8:57Speaker 1: he says that look you're different and said that non
- 9:01Speaker 1: sober Karen might have been more fun he thought that
- 9:06Speaker 1: with her coming home from prison that he would tear
- 9:09Speaker 1: his ass up those are his words not mine and Karen.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Said to his face the last thing she wanted to
- 9:19Speaker 2: do was worry about fucking.
- 9:23Speaker 3: How old are they?
- 9:24Speaker 2: He said that.
- 9:26Speaker 3: How old are they?
- 9:28Speaker 5: Old enough.
- 9:29Speaker 2: So, Ray's in his 80s and Karen's in her 60s.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Karen's 62.
- 9:35Speaker 3: Okay.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Ray still wants some ass, baby. But the main part
- 9:40Speaker 1: that made me... Listen, it made me sad, but it
- 9:44Speaker 1: was also very... I was happy to hear that we
- 9:47Speaker 1: get a chance to get more out of Ray and
- 9:49Speaker 1: Karen in this scene when... Ray said that he was
- 9:53Speaker 1: almost going to call off the wedding because even then
- 9:57Speaker 1: he was concerned that Karen liked drinking too much. Which
- 10:03Speaker 1: I was like, that information I think told us a
- 10:07Speaker 1: lot in terms of their dynamic. Karen did end the
- 10:10Speaker 1: scene by saying she doesn't know what is their future
- 10:14Speaker 1: for them.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Dustin, starting with you, what were your thoughts on that scene?
- 10:17Speaker 1: Because for me, I think what's best and what's obvious
- 10:24Speaker 1: is the.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Fact that they're not going to, they're not.
- 10:28Speaker 1: Sleeping with each other, literally, figuratively, and these two people
- 10:34Speaker 1: should just divorce and move on.
- 10:38Speaker 7: I think they too old to divorce and move on.
- 10:41Speaker 7: I don't think they've been sleeping together for a very
- 10:43Speaker 7: long time. Karen going and doing her bid, ain't got
- 10:45Speaker 7: nothing to do with them not fucking. I don't believe
- 10:47Speaker 7: they've been fucking for a while. I was disappointed in
- 10:50Speaker 7: both of them in this scene. Both of them need
- 10:51Speaker 7: to go outside and get a switch and be handled.
- 10:55Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? After that scene. First of all, Ray,
- 10:58Speaker 5: what a.
- 11:00Speaker 7: Wild thing to say to somebody that's in fucking treatment
- 11:03Speaker 7: right now, working on their sobriety. You telling them you
- 11:05Speaker 7: used to be more fun when you was getting fucked up.
- 11:08Speaker 7: Then only to go back in the same conversation and say,
- 11:11Speaker 7: but I almost didn't marry you because you like to
- 11:13Speaker 7: drink so much.
- 11:15Speaker 5: Is it Uchiwale or is it one mic? Oh, nigga,
- 11:17Speaker 5: you just talking.
- 11:18Speaker 7: And furthermore, it don't look right seeing an old ass
- 11:22Speaker 7: man with big buck eyes smiling and getting excited about
- 11:25Speaker 7: sex in an inappropriate time. That conversation style only works
- 11:29Speaker 7: amongst other men in private rooms. When you with your
- 11:32Speaker 7: friends and your homeboys and y'all have them conversations, you
- 11:35Speaker 7: have them. But seeing you, seeing Ray be driven by
- 11:38Speaker 7: a desire to get his old dick hard in that
- 11:41Speaker 7: scene was off-putting to me. I also think that Karen
- 11:45Speaker 7: needs to take some accountability in here.
- 11:48Speaker 5: Even if Ray.
- 11:49Speaker 7: Has to adjust to getting to know this new version
- 11:53Speaker 7: of you, it's because your ass went to jail. And
- 11:55Speaker 7: I love Karen. You know she's one of my favorites
- 11:57Speaker 7: on that show. But she's got to take some accountability
- 12:00Speaker 7: in the shit between.
- 12:01Speaker 5: Her and Ray.
- 12:02Speaker 7: If he did change, if he does need a minute
- 12:04Speaker 7: to adjust to the new you, Karen, then you have
- 12:07Speaker 7: to take into consideration, well, why is there a new me? Oh,
- 12:10Speaker 7: because I went to jail for six fucking months. So
- 12:13Speaker 7: maybe you sit in that a little bit and give
- 12:15Speaker 7: his ass some time to adjust. Might be a little
- 12:18Speaker 7: more time than you want to give them, but y'all
- 12:20Speaker 7: all be patient. You know what I'm saying? That's how
- 12:23Speaker 7: I feel. That's how I feel. I don't think they
- 12:25Speaker 7: need to get a divorce. All that new me, new me.
- 12:28Speaker 7: This is the old version of both of y'all at
- 12:30Speaker 7: this point. That's what it is. Y'all got kids that
- 12:33Speaker 7: love and respect y'all. We know Karen's children, her son
- 12:36Speaker 7: and her daughter love her and Ray to death. They, they,
- 12:39Speaker 7: we saw when Karen came home from her, from jail, right?
- 12:43Speaker 5: We saw that.
- 12:43Speaker 7: She was received with people who had been holding her down,
- 12:47Speaker 7: so to speak, while she was gone. You have a
- 12:49Speaker 7: reverence for that. You know what I'm saying? And it
- 12:51Speaker 7: shows up in the way that you engage moving forward.
- 12:54Speaker 7: So I know we filming a TV show, and I
- 12:56Speaker 7: think that some of Karen's choices are motivated by her
- 12:59Speaker 7: wanting to make sure she provides entertainment value for the
- 13:02Speaker 7: show and for the audience. But some of that shit
- 13:04Speaker 7: I saw in that scene just didn't look right between
- 13:07Speaker 7: both of them.
- 13:08Speaker 5: It just didn't.
- 13:09Speaker 3: Dominique?
- 13:11Speaker 4: Ray going to have to go beat his meat somewhere, honey.
- 13:15Speaker 4: In his 80s.
- 13:16Speaker 2: I think he has been.
- 13:19Speaker 4: Let me finish.
- 13:20Speaker 8: I don't know about y'all, but I don't know if
- 13:22Speaker 8: y'all ever hunt somebody who has been on a Viagra set.
- 13:26Speaker 8: You're not about to be, you're not going to be
- 13:28Speaker 8: on me like Mr.
- 13:29Speaker 4: Was on Sealy. You're not. And I don't know.
- 13:36Speaker 8: I think maybe amongst all of us, I'm the only
- 13:38Speaker 8: person who has been incarcerated in And that scene.
- 13:42Speaker 3: Is she?
- 13:44Speaker 2: Who?
- 13:45Speaker 3: No, I'm saying... You said based on.
- 13:47Speaker 8: I'm making the assumption. I'm the only one who... I
- 13:49Speaker 8: think I'm the only one who's been incarcerated.
- 13:51Speaker 3: Are we clarifying? Okay. Just want to make sure. Continue, Dominique. Okay.
- 13:54Speaker 4: And I say that to say and also worked, you know,
- 13:57Speaker 4: for half.
- 13:57Speaker 8: Almost five years running an organization that was about supporting
- 14:01Speaker 8: people stabilizing.
- 14:03Speaker 4: Um, also my mother.
- 14:04Speaker 8: Experienced like navigating alcoholism and went to treatment for like
- 14:08Speaker 8: 30 days when I was 11 and I'll never forget.
- 14:12Speaker 8: The realization I had maybe in my master's program, when
- 14:16Speaker 8: I realized that no one told us how we were
- 14:18Speaker 8: going to have to relearn each other. We were leaning
- 14:21Speaker 8: on our titles. That was my mom. I was a child,
- 14:23Speaker 8: you know, my dad, like my siblings, but the biggest
- 14:26Speaker 8: tension came with, even with just 30 days, we all changed.
- 14:32Speaker 8: And so the traditional things that were there, we have
- 14:35Speaker 8: to relearn ourselves.
- 14:36Speaker 4: And no one is saying that.
- 14:37Speaker 8: And I think that goes to what Dustin is saying
- 14:39Speaker 8: in regards to, I think Karen is struggling with sharing
- 14:43Speaker 8: who she is because she's figuring that out. And that
- 14:46Speaker 8: doesn't negate Ray's tension of, yo, like, I don't know
- 14:50Speaker 8: who you are. But also, respectfully, after my father passed
- 14:55Speaker 8: away and my mother was dating, my mother was dating
- 14:57Speaker 8: a guy who I knew liked who she was when
- 15:00Speaker 8: she was drunk.
- 15:01Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 15:02Speaker 8: Because of how he could control her and because of
- 15:05Speaker 8: how she could move. And when I listened to Ray,
- 15:08Speaker 8: I heard, yes, there's parts that concern me, but you're
- 15:12Speaker 8: more pliable. The type of experiences I want come out
- 15:15Speaker 8: of you. Because the Karen that I saw, I think
- 15:20Speaker 8: people don't realize a lot of people who engage in
- 15:22Speaker 8: substance abuse are often pretty boring in real life. Not
- 15:25Speaker 8: only to maintain the program, but oftentimes people are using
- 15:29Speaker 8: things to come out of their shell.
- 15:30Speaker 4: They're navigating other things. And so.
- 15:33Speaker 8: Ray said, and I'm paraphrasing, but essentially it landed like,
- 15:37Speaker 8: I don't want to do life with nobody else. Karen
- 15:39Speaker 8: was like, you know what, I don't know where this
- 15:41Speaker 8: is going. And Ray was like, hey, hold on now,
- 15:43Speaker 8: not too much. And I think that he's going to
- 15:46Speaker 8: have to cleave to that. And you made six months. People,
- 15:51Speaker 8: I don't care how cute you think it is, six
- 15:55Speaker 8: months in the joint is six months in the joint needs.
- 15:58Speaker 8: And I think with Karen, she wants it to be
- 16:02Speaker 8: entertaining But I don't think the Grand Dom likes.
- 16:08Speaker 4: This is the psychotherapist.
- 16:10Speaker 8: I think most of her trauma is her being exposed emotionally.
- 16:14Speaker 8: I remember, wasn't there an episode where she went back
- 16:16Speaker 8: to the family's compound or.
- 16:18Speaker 5: Something like that?
- 16:18Speaker 3: It was years ago.
- 16:19Speaker 8: I think the transparency of that scene, because some people
- 16:25Speaker 8: are like, I hated her makeup.
- 16:26Speaker 4: She was really crying.
- 16:28Speaker 8: Mama was giving us She was giving us behind the curtain,
- 16:31Speaker 8: and I don't think she ever wants to do that
- 16:33Speaker 8: because the girls use it against each other, because it
- 16:35Speaker 8: feels scary, and I think it activates her trauma. And so, yeah,
- 16:40Speaker 8: I really hope, Rafe, support your sexual desires, black man.
- 16:44Speaker 3: Talk it out!
- 16:46Speaker 8: As a former sex educator, okay, I don't want to
- 16:48Speaker 8: give you no coochie hat, but I'll give you a handjob.
- 16:50Speaker 8: Handjobs are fab if we really want to get into
- 16:52Speaker 8: the big age. You know, if you're not on a stimulant,
- 16:57Speaker 8: I should be able to get it. Like, let's have
- 16:58Speaker 8: a conversation about what you need, and then I can
- 17:02Speaker 8: negotiate what I have capacity for. Do you know what
- 17:05Speaker 8: I'm saying? Like, if y'all are locked in, that's a conversation.
- 17:08Speaker 8: But Ray ain't going nowhere. I think it'll be more
- 17:11Speaker 8: Karen-leaving sex. And I don't think Karen should do anything
- 17:14Speaker 8: that disrupts her life right now. She should have a
- 17:17Speaker 8: year of consistency and stabilization before any major move like
- 17:22Speaker 8: that happens. But also, Auntie, he coinsy. It looks like
- 17:26Speaker 8: all the checks, cash, and everything, sister. These streets is nasty.
- 17:30Speaker 8: If you get one of these young pieces, you're going
- 17:32Speaker 8: to have to go up there and get tested every
- 17:33Speaker 8: week because these young boys.
- 17:35Speaker 4: Is filthy, Auntie.
- 17:37Speaker 3: Just.
- 17:38Speaker 8: Just lick his ear a little bit. Put on a
- 17:40Speaker 8: little bird of flack and work his set.
- 17:42Speaker 5: He ain't even got to get out that chair.
- 17:45Speaker 7: She can handle her business right there in that Lazy Boy.
- 17:49Speaker 8: Or hire one of the girls. I don't know why
- 17:52Speaker 8: people don't want to hire sex. This is what sex
- 17:54Speaker 8: workers are for. And with the right Medicaid application, there
- 17:57Speaker 8: are girls who can do that under Medicaid.
- 17:59Speaker 7: Karen needs to project manage this.
- 18:01Speaker 5: That's what she needs to do.
- 18:02Speaker 3: With love.
- 18:03Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 18:05Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
- 18:09Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. Blue, what are your
- 18:13Speaker 2: thoughts on that?
- 18:14Speaker 1: And the one thing I want to add to, Blue,
- 18:15Speaker 1: because Dominique made me remember this, and this part made
- 18:20Speaker 1: me sad, is when Ray said, I didn't know because
- 18:24Speaker 1: you're sober if you were still attracted to me.
- 18:27Speaker 3: I'm happy you said that, because that's where I'm going
- 18:29Speaker 3: with this. Um... So here's the thing.
- 18:33Speaker 6: Clips can be deceiving because I felt a lot more
- 18:36Speaker 6: enraged with Ray seeing the clip that was played over
- 18:39Speaker 6: and over for weeks ahead of time than I was
- 18:40Speaker 6: watching the actual scene.
- 18:42Speaker 3: And let me explain why. And I want to turn
- 18:44Speaker 3: this back to the audience.
- 18:45Speaker 6: Sometimes things look disgusting from a distance and then we
- 18:49Speaker 6: realize that.
- 18:49Speaker 3: We do it in our own way.
- 18:50Speaker 4: Can we all be honest?
- 18:52Speaker 3: Let's all be honest. We all prefer Mary J.
- 18:56Speaker 6: Blige's earlier work to after she got sober and healed.
- 19:01Speaker 6: And everybody talks about how my life is one of
- 19:03Speaker 6: the best unskipable, no skips R & B albums of
- 19:06Speaker 6: all time.
- 19:07Speaker 3: Can we all agree?
- 19:08Speaker 6: I hope I want to be able to respect y'all.
- 19:09Speaker 6: So Carl, okay. Everybody agrees.
- 19:12Speaker 4: Okay.
- 19:14Speaker 6: The thing that people don't want to say out loud
- 19:18Speaker 6: is that, um, destructive behavior can be sexy and charming.
- 19:24Speaker 6: Can we all be happy since we're going there? Let's really,
- 19:28Speaker 6: there are people in this world. who create a persona
- 19:31Speaker 6: through their addiction. They become sexy, and funny, and charming,
- 19:37Speaker 6: and bigger than life, and they create amazing, amazing art.
- 19:41Speaker 6: Jean-Michel Basquiat, Casey and JoJo, since we on the Mary J.
- 19:44Speaker 3: Blige thing.
- 19:45Speaker 6: There are literal museums built around the greatness that unfortunately
- 19:50Speaker 6: comes from pain and addiction and so watching him say
- 19:55Speaker 6: that version of you was sexually affirming and assertive And
- 19:59Speaker 6: made me feel wanted and seen and came for me
- 20:03Speaker 6: so I never had to wonder if I was that nigga.
- 20:07Speaker 6: And you sober is quiet and calm and meek and
- 20:10Speaker 6: not affirming me and not making me feel wanted.
- 20:14Speaker 3: It's not as far-fetched as our first reaction would make
- 20:18Speaker 3: us think. if we're being honest.
- 20:20Speaker 6: We all have a friend who's become sober and we
- 20:23Speaker 6: happy for her, but she's probably not coming to the
- 20:24Speaker 6: functions no more. And so even though, because he's 112,
- 20:28Speaker 6: he didn't word it correctly, he's not saying something that
- 20:32Speaker 6: we haven't all thought about someone who's gone through that journey,
- 20:36Speaker 6: be it Mary J.
- 20:37Speaker 3: Blige or our homegirl. And I don't want.
- 20:40Speaker 6: Us to use semantics as a way to dehumanize this
- 20:44Speaker 6: elderly black man who doesn't know about what culture and
- 20:47Speaker 6: the way that we do, because then we'd have to
- 20:48Speaker 6: throw away most of our families, yes?
- 20:50Speaker 3: So I'm not saying that what Ray said was right.
- 20:52Speaker 6: I'm saying when he kept on talking, I suddenly was
- 20:55Speaker 6: reminded of our shared humanity by watching what he had
- 20:57Speaker 6: to say.
- 20:58Speaker 3: I don't feel affirmed. And listen to what he said.
- 21:00Speaker 6: I almost didn't marry you, but I realized my love
- 21:04Speaker 6: for you meant I was going to have to also
- 21:06Speaker 6: choose your dysfunctions. And so I kept, for 20 plus years,
- 21:11Speaker 6: I chose you and your dysfunction, recognizing I love you
- 21:14Speaker 6: so much, even if you never change, I'm going to
- 21:16Speaker 6: keep on choosing you. Now that you are healing, I'm
- 21:19Speaker 6: worried that your healed self won't choose me back.
- 21:24Speaker 5: Well, yes.
- 21:25Speaker 1: But also, I agree with you 100%. That's some real shit, y'all.
- 21:29Speaker 1: I mean, Ray's not perfect, but that's some real shit.
- 21:32Speaker 1: And let me add to that, the realness of it, too.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Let's be clear.
- 21:36Speaker 2: It's also very apparent... Right?
- 21:40Speaker 1: That, and listen, when I say this, I'm saying this
- 21:44Speaker 1: as a maybe before people say I'm adding this to
- 21:46Speaker 1: their relationship.
- 21:49Speaker 2: Everything you said, Blue, I agree with.
- 21:51Speaker 1: I also want to add there is a possibility that
- 21:59Speaker 1: Ray could have fed the addiction.
- 22:01Speaker 3: Like my 600 pound life, that's what I was thinking about.
- 22:03Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
- 22:04Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Because the thing is this,
- 22:05Speaker 2: the thing is this.
- 22:06Speaker 1: I just watched Matthew Perry's documentary on Netflix, which by
- 22:09Speaker 1: the way.
- 22:10Speaker 2: Guys, is worth a three episode watch.
- 22:12Speaker 1: It is a fascinating story of a boy who started
- 22:18Speaker 1: drinking an entire liquor bottle at 14 years old and
- 22:24Speaker 1: who died and came back to life, right?
- 22:27Speaker 9: And long story short, he died officially, not because of
- 22:34Speaker 9: just his own demise, but because the assistant who he
- 22:38Speaker 9: has known for 30 years injected.
- 22:40Speaker 2: Him to his last breath.
- 22:43Speaker 3: Right?
- 22:44Speaker 1: And the thing that I don't think Karen is saying
- 22:47Speaker 1: because she's trying to protect the legacy of the Black
- 22:49Speaker 1: Bill Gates, I think Karen wants to say, possibly, allegedly, you,
- 22:56Speaker 1: and it's not to blame Bray, but I think in
- 22:59Speaker 1: Karen's mind, you make me drink.
- 23:04Speaker 2: You don't mind me drinking. You encourage me to drink.
- 23:08Speaker 2: I haven't had a.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Sip of alcohol in 12 years.
- 23:12Speaker 2: And I remember.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Dating this guy who was like, oh, you could drink
- 23:15Speaker 1: around me. And I'm like, I don't drink anymore. And
- 23:17Speaker 1: he was like, Are you going to be boring? So
- 23:23Speaker 1: what Blue is saying is a real thing. It is
- 23:25Speaker 1: something that people think not drinking equals boring and that
- 23:30Speaker 1: not drinking equals you've changed. Not drinking equals you're putting
- 23:35Speaker 1: a mirror to me in case I may have a
- 23:37Speaker 1: problem too. So I do believe that, I will say
- 23:41Speaker 1: this with all respect, I disagree with the fact that
- 23:45Speaker 1: they should stay. I think for Karen's sobriety, I think Ray...
- 23:50Speaker 1: I think for Karen, allegedly, Ray is one of the
- 23:54Speaker 1: causes of her drinking. And for her to get sober,
- 23:59Speaker 1: she has to leave that house and that marriage.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Because you know what that means? That means his fear
- 24:03Speaker 3: is not unfounded. The healed her might not choose him.
- 24:07Speaker 4: And it means he knows. And not only not unfounded,
- 24:09Speaker 4: he knows.
- 24:11Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he suspects it.
- 24:11Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying?
- 24:12Speaker 8: It might have been a set where I'm going to
- 24:13Speaker 8: say this on the record, so when it comes back,
- 24:17Speaker 8: we have to sit with it.
- 24:18Speaker 4: I also think that.
- 24:21Speaker 8: Especially for women who have spent their lives feeling like
- 24:23Speaker 8: they need a man to survive. A lot of my
- 24:26Speaker 8: homegirls who got locked up, the one gift it gave
- 24:29Speaker 8: them was learning they could live without a man.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:33Speaker 8: And not in regards like financially stuff, but I'm talking
- 24:35Speaker 8: about the day to day to life. And so I'm
- 24:38Speaker 8: just hopeful that they all are healthy. And I think that. Also,
- 24:42Speaker 8: Karen is under supervision. So a lot of people don't realize, like,
- 24:45Speaker 8: it's the release. And then I think it's three years
- 24:48Speaker 8: of supervision. So I also think she's being extra careful
- 24:51Speaker 8: just because every time they get in an argument, one
- 24:54Speaker 8: of those girls on that show is like, girl, I
- 24:56Speaker 8: call your officer.
- 24:58Speaker 4: You're sadly mistaken. Or even.
- 25:02Speaker 8: The same way that women will try to control a
- 25:03Speaker 8: man that just got out. Y'all need to watch Love
- 25:06Speaker 8: After Lockout. Them dudes will do it with women also.
- 25:09Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:10Speaker 8: So, like, I'm sitting more with what you said, Carlos,
- 25:13Speaker 8: about the separation. It kind of scares me. But I
- 25:17Speaker 8: just hope that she has people on her team in
- 25:19Speaker 8: regards to her care team with her treatment and stuff
- 25:21Speaker 8: that are really laying out how she disrupts her life
- 25:27Speaker 8: but stabilizes her sobriety.
- 25:30Speaker 5: Agreed.
- 25:31Speaker 7: And if Ray was providing the alcohol, I'm glad it
- 25:33Speaker 7: was Fireball, because Fireball is cheap.
- 25:35Speaker 5: Karen ain't drink nothing but Fireball.
- 25:37Speaker 3: Is that true, Dustin?
- 25:38Speaker 2: Yeah, she knows Fireball.
- 25:39Speaker 5: It was Fireball?
- 25:41Speaker 1: Remember?
- 25:41Speaker 5: She used to drink Fireball.
- 25:42Speaker 7: Think back to when she had got drunk down in
- 25:44Speaker 7: Monique's basement at Monique's old house.
- 25:46Speaker 5: Oh, wow. You remember all of that? That's the best thing.
- 25:49Speaker 2: That's fireball. That was so shit.
- 25:51Speaker 8: That's an alcoholic strategy, because they drink Fireball because they
- 25:54Speaker 8: think you don't smell it on their breath.
- 25:55Speaker 4: They think it smells like mint.
- 25:57Speaker 5: Like cinnamon gum. Yeah.
- 25:58Speaker 2: I was going to say, like, yes. Okay.
- 26:01Speaker 3: We humanized the fuck out of this. I love it.
- 26:03Speaker 4: No, this is good.
- 26:04Speaker 1: So we got two more topics left. I want to
- 26:07Speaker 1: get into Wendy, Eddie, seeing that they have with their
- 26:09Speaker 1: daughter Cameron.
- 26:11Speaker 5: Okay.
- 26:15Speaker 1: So Wendy said that Cameron has no idea of what's
- 26:19Speaker 1: going on, that the only person who knows out of
- 26:21Speaker 1: their children is the oldest one, Carter, because Carter Googled
- 26:24Speaker 1: them and they were honest enough to tell him this
- 26:27Speaker 1: is what's going on with them.
- 26:30Speaker 2: With that being said, Wendy is telling Eddie that, you know, Tia.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Is telling her that she and Rob, they don't have sex.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Eddie said he can't relate. Wendy gave him a look.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Wendy tells Eddie that people should stay together because they
- 26:55Speaker 1: want to, not because they're propelled to. Eddie asked Wendy
- 27:00Speaker 1: if she still loves him and she says yes and
- 27:05Speaker 1: asked him if you still love me he says yes
- 27:09Speaker 1: and suggested that they go and have a double date
- 27:12Speaker 1: with Tia and Rob this scene was obviously.
- 27:21Speaker 2: You know what Eddie.
- 27:24Speaker 3: Went off script just say it Eddie went off script
- 27:27Speaker 3: Eddie went off script and she said, excuse me? We
- 27:29Speaker 3: didn't rehearse that.
- 27:30Speaker 1: It did give, it did give, listen, I love your
- 27:34Speaker 1: set posts, but it is a known thing that I've
- 27:38Speaker 1: said since day one, that they rehearse their scenes before
- 27:40Speaker 1: they hit record. I did feel like this, in addition
- 27:46Speaker 1: to the double date where Eddie, Eddie was so heavy
- 27:50Speaker 1: handed in the double date where he was telling T
- 27:55Speaker 1: and Rob, that Wendy knew nothing that was going on.
- 28:00Speaker 1: He's tried to relay it to, you know, one person
- 28:04Speaker 1: in the marriage pays the mortgage. And if the house
- 28:09Speaker 1: gets in foreclosure, the other spouse is sort of like,
- 28:13Speaker 1: I did nothing wrong.
- 28:14Speaker 2: It's your job to pay the mortgage.
- 28:16Speaker 1: I felt like those scenes, to me, was setting up
- 28:20Speaker 1: the sort of legality that's about to occur. I think, yeah,
- 28:27Speaker 1: I think Eddie allegedly will take the fall for everything.
- 28:31Speaker 1: And Double D seeing the conversation to me was obvious
- 28:36Speaker 1: in that sense.
- 28:38Speaker 5: Do you know how much you.
- 28:39Speaker 3: Have to love somebody to agree? Like, here's the thing.
- 28:42Speaker 6: Eddie went off script and Wendy did the Pikachu face
- 28:45Speaker 6: because he's like, I know we agreed that I'm going
- 28:47Speaker 6: to set myself on fire so that you can stay warm.
- 28:50Speaker 6: And however, can I get a look? Can you just
- 28:52Speaker 6: touch the tip a little bit? Please, if I ask
- 28:54Speaker 6: you in front of all these people. No, and look,
- 28:57Speaker 6: I'm being so serious.
- 28:58Speaker 2: Hell. Let's keep it real.
- 29:02Speaker 3: I'll take the L for everybody, but can you.
- 29:04Speaker 4: Let's keep it a buck. Listen, a man takes a
- 29:07Speaker 4: fair case for you, sister.
- 29:09Speaker 3: Lick the tip a little bit. That's all he wants.
- 29:11Speaker 2: Just touch it.
- 29:11Speaker 4: Eat his ass, niece. He's taking a Fed case for you, sister.
- 29:15Speaker 8: Listen, again, I think I might be the only one
- 29:18Speaker 8: who has experience and know these things.
- 29:21Speaker 3: I have experience with the Feds.
- 29:23Speaker 8: Okay, this man is taking this case for you, niece.
- 29:26Speaker 8: He's taking this case. He's setting up the evidence. They're
- 29:29Speaker 8: going to bring this back in court. And all he
- 29:32Speaker 8: wants to do is... What I love about what we're
- 29:36Speaker 8: seeing on Real Housewives of Potomac is what I want
- 29:38Speaker 8: to see from the black men on Love and Marriage
- 29:41Speaker 8: Huntsville is they are being they're in the best way
- 29:45Speaker 8: they can they're letting them know they're showing that they
- 29:48Speaker 8: need validation from the women around them and they're craving
- 29:52Speaker 8: it and they really make sacrifice and Eddie want to
- 29:55Speaker 8: say like hey I'm about to go down for this
- 29:57Speaker 8: But will you be there? And Wendy, I'm telling you
- 30:01Speaker 8: right now, don't be that type of lady. Hold that
- 30:05Speaker 8: man down, girl. Now, if something happened after he's done,
- 30:07Speaker 8: it's fine. But don't play on your time because you've
- 30:13Speaker 8: got seven years from the time that they activate that
- 30:17Speaker 8: charge for them. The indictments are different. They can get
- 30:21Speaker 8: you with a conspiracy after the fact. You'll gag if
- 30:24Speaker 8: Eddie flips on you, girl. I know a lot of
- 30:26Speaker 8: people don't took a case and that girl get cute
- 30:29Speaker 8: when he's in behind that Walmart thing and he sent
- 30:32Speaker 8: a kite and you'll gag.
- 30:33Speaker 4: You are not prison fish. Never gave prison fish at all.
- 30:36Speaker 5: No shade.
- 30:38Speaker 4: And that daughter knows. I'm three years older than my sister.
- 30:42Speaker 8: It wasn't nothing that I knew that Katrina did know.
- 30:44Speaker 8: If that boy knows, that girl is old enough to
- 30:48Speaker 8: be in scenes and have conversations with Y'all are raising
- 30:52Speaker 8: intelligent young Black children.
- 30:54Speaker 4: They're aware.
- 30:55Speaker 8: But Wendy, invest your time in fortifying your husband so
- 31:01Speaker 8: he takes it to the finish line, niece, because they
- 31:03Speaker 8: ain't going to do you like Martha did. They cut
- 31:06Speaker 8: your hair off, niece. They take out your bundles. They
- 31:08Speaker 8: don't care about your degrees, daughter. You're going to have
- 31:11Speaker 8: a roommate, niece. It's a nasty set, so God bless you.
- 31:17Speaker 6: Dominique, this point, and I'm going to let you dust it,
- 31:19Speaker 6: but this point, unfortunately, I do have. When the feds
- 31:22Speaker 6: came up to my house looking for my ex, it
- 31:25Speaker 6: was because.
- 31:26Speaker 3: What? I thought we were sharing.
- 31:29Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought we were sharing.
- 31:31Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Okay.
- 31:34Speaker 6: When they came to my house looking for him, it
- 31:37Speaker 6: was the beach date in Coney Island and how kind
- 31:40Speaker 6: he had been that made me say, hey, I don't
- 31:42Speaker 6: know what's happening.
- 31:44Speaker 3: Oh, no, I don't know what's going on, right?
- 31:45Speaker 6: There's a certain level of stroking you have to do
- 31:48Speaker 6: when you are in partnership with somebody who's supposed to
- 31:50Speaker 6: go along with the program.
- 31:52Speaker 3: You being stern and having.
- 31:54Speaker 6: Him beg for you to touch him in the morning,
- 31:56Speaker 6: cue Diana.
- 31:56Speaker 3: Ross, is not helping the plan.
- 32:01Speaker 6: And so my thing is, number one, that man loves you.
- 32:03Speaker 6: Do you know how deep you have to love somebody
- 32:04Speaker 6: to agree to go to lockup and have to use
- 32:07Speaker 6: a mattress as a cooch for.
- 32:08Speaker 3: However many years? That's a whole lot of love. Amethy, yes.
- 32:12Speaker 6: I didn't want to say it because I'm not sure
- 32:13Speaker 6: if it would trigger people. But for a man to
- 32:15Speaker 6: agree to something like that, Eddie loves, the kind of
- 32:18Speaker 6: love he has for Wendy, I think he actually loves
- 32:20Speaker 6: her more than any of the husbands in the entire franchise,
- 32:23Speaker 6: which is why the Green Eyed Bandits had a problem
- 32:24Speaker 6: with her. Because she has like an actual husband. I
- 32:27Speaker 6: think maybe the new girl's husband might be second in line, right?
- 32:30Speaker 6: And so for you to have a man that loves
- 32:31Speaker 6: you this much, it's going to let you talk to
- 32:33Speaker 6: him crazy. And all he wants is to feel like
- 32:35Speaker 6: you care about him. I think between Ray and Eddie,
- 32:38Speaker 6: we saw two very extreme opposite ends of what it
- 32:41Speaker 6: looks like when black men are brave enough to say, hey,
- 32:44Speaker 6: I actually need to be held too.
- 32:45Speaker 3: I would like to be little spoons. And it breaks
- 32:49Speaker 3: my heart. In the Karen and Ray thing, they might
- 32:52Speaker 3: have to separate ways until they go to therapy and
- 32:55Speaker 3: figure out how not to be like my 600-pound life
- 32:57Speaker 3: where the lady is going to the doctor to lose weight,
- 32:59Speaker 3: but you're buying her 18 Big Macs on the way home, right?
- 33:01Speaker 5: Right, and chicken in the bed.
- 33:03Speaker 9: Right.
- 33:04Speaker 3: Them bitches always got a man, right? Always ready to
- 33:06Speaker 3: be an enabler.
- 33:06Speaker 6: So you can love somebody and unintentionally enable them without
- 33:09Speaker 6: being an abuser. I want to make sure that we
- 33:11Speaker 6: don't use enabler and abuser interchangeably. They're not interchangeable. Enablers
- 33:15Speaker 6: can be deeply loving, not realizing that they're causing you harm.
- 33:18Speaker 6: I think that situation is sad. But with Eddie, you
- 33:20Speaker 6: have a husband who just wants you to be there
- 33:22Speaker 6: when he comes out. with his shoes and his wallet,
- 33:25Speaker 6: and the baby's waiting for him. Like, it breaks my
- 33:27Speaker 6: heart that Elizabeth Holmes has more support from her husband
- 33:30Speaker 6: than Wendy's giving to Eddie. I don't want that. I
- 33:32Speaker 6: don't want that for our good sis. So Wendy, if
- 33:34Speaker 6: you watch this show, we know you do. Please be
- 33:36Speaker 6: a little bit kinder to Eddie, especially if he's going
- 33:38Speaker 6: along with the plan. Especially if he's going along with
- 33:41Speaker 6: the plan.
- 33:41Speaker 3: That's all I gotta say. Justice for Eddie, allegedly.
- 33:47Speaker 7: Yeah, we saw this coming. This wasn't no surprise to me.
- 33:50Speaker 7: We need Whitney. Wendy has been breadcrumbing this the entire season.
- 33:57Speaker 7: We knew this was coming all this time. We knew
- 33:59Speaker 7: that she was throwing Eddie under the bus, so to speak.
- 34:04Speaker 7: I've always been team Wendy and Eddie. I hope that
- 34:06Speaker 7: they get the least amount of consequence from this situation.
- 34:10Speaker 7: The little girl definitely knows. Cameron is so funny and
- 34:14Speaker 7: so cute. She stole my heart last season when Stacey
- 34:17Speaker 7: was fixing her a plate at that field day or whatever.
- 34:21Speaker 7: And she picked up that American flag plate and Cameron told.
- 34:24Speaker 5: Her, is that a Donald Trump plate? She's like, she
- 34:27Speaker 5: like tore her face up.
- 34:28Speaker 7: I've loved that little girl for many seasons, but that just,
- 34:32Speaker 7: you know what I mean?
- 34:33Speaker 5: And so, Hey, it is what it is, man. We
- 34:37Speaker 5: are seeing this coming.
- 34:38Speaker 7: What I can say, Wendy looked good as hell this
- 34:41Speaker 7: entire motherfucking episode. Wendy looks so pretty in that scene.
- 34:44Speaker 7: If you're going to shoot a scene, you know, with
- 34:47Speaker 7: the shits with your husband, you know, deeply embroiled in
- 34:50Speaker 7: a legal battle at that time, and the question of
- 34:53Speaker 7: the sustainability of your coupling is at hand, listen, that's
- 34:57Speaker 7: how you better look when you shoot a scene like that.
- 34:59Speaker 7: Wendy looked the fuck good, and that's all I got, man.
- 35:03Speaker 7: That's it.
- 35:04Speaker 3: You look good.
- 35:06Speaker 1: What did you guys think about the double date where
- 35:08Speaker 1: Wendy was drilling, I'm.
- 35:10Speaker 5: Sorry, grilling... I got something for that.
- 35:13Speaker 2: Okay, I'll start with you then first.
- 35:14Speaker 4: So, Wendy.
- 35:16Speaker 1: is grilling Tia and Rob. They're on a double date,
- 35:19Speaker 1: her and Eddie. Wendy asks if what they're going through
- 35:22Speaker 1: now is the darkest moment for them. Tia said this
- 35:28Speaker 1: is not the darkest moment. By the way, Tia said
- 35:31Speaker 1: this in her confession, though. I want to make sure
- 35:34Speaker 1: we all remind ourselves of that, that she did not
- 35:36Speaker 1: say it to her face. Tia sent her confessionals that
- 35:41Speaker 1: this is not the darkest moment her husband looking at
- 35:45Speaker 1: dating apps. Wendy asked if there's been infidelity and Tia said, from.
- 35:51Speaker 2: What he told me, no.
- 35:53Speaker 1: Wendy said, well, okay, let me ask him.
- 35:59Speaker 2: Why are you lonely? Are you sad that she travels alone?
- 36:04Speaker 1: Tia tells Rob he doesn't have to answer that and says,
- 36:09Speaker 1: They don't have to explain how they maneuver their family.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Listen, I will say this. I thank God.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Wendy grilled her because this is another week of Tia
- 36:22Speaker 1: giving us absolutely nothing. I don't understand why she's a housewife.
- 36:27Speaker 1: Bring back Mia Thornton. And yes, I'm going to say this.
- 36:32Speaker 1: Y'all can read Mia Thornton all day long. Love her,
- 36:35Speaker 1: hate her. Mia gave her... Sorry, Mia gave us Gordon Tease.
- 36:40Speaker 1: Mia gave us Ink. Mia gave us Bob sleeping with
- 36:44Speaker 1: her best friend and taking showers with Jacqueline Child.
- 36:48Speaker 2: Tia is giving me nothing. Tia needs to be on
- 36:50Speaker 2: the unemployment line with a pink slipping hand. I don't
- 36:55Speaker 2: see for Tia. Oh my God. Reality television.
- 37:00Speaker 1: is the only job in America, once again, where you
- 37:03Speaker 1: can go to work and tell your boss, I'm not
- 37:05Speaker 1: doing the job y'all signed me.
- 37:07Speaker 4: Up to do.
- 37:08Speaker 1: She doesn't even want her husband to answer questions based
- 37:13Speaker 1: on what he did, okay? Wendy is talking to him.
- 37:17Speaker 1: I thought Wendy was stellar. And the moment I knew
- 37:21Speaker 1: Tia was not a great housewife, I would have said, well, bitch,
- 37:24Speaker 1: let's talk about you.
- 37:25Speaker 5: Hello.
- 37:26Speaker 3: Okay, so you want to.
- 37:27Speaker 1: Ask me all these questions? Answer it, Rob. Because this
- 37:30Speaker 1: is Rob's doing, not mine. But let's talk about you.
- 37:33Speaker 1: Let's talk about the emails.
- 37:35Speaker 3: Like, Tia....
- 37:38Speaker 1: And even with the scene with her mother, Tia is...
- 37:44Speaker 1: I crave for more scenes that Karen and Bray gave us.
- 37:51Speaker 2: This shit with Tia and Rob, I'm not invested. I
- 37:54Speaker 2: don't give a fuck about it. I am over it.
- 37:56Speaker 2: She is cooked and fried, okay? I am over it. Tia,
- 38:03Speaker 2: get off my show.
- 38:04Speaker 6: The king of reality TV ethering you on a casual Monday.
- 38:07Speaker 3: She is in for a rough week.
- 38:09Speaker 4: My God. But y'all can feel differently.
- 38:12Speaker 2: Go ahead, Dustin Ross.
- 38:13Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 38:15Speaker 7: First of all, the darkest moment in their marriage was
- 38:20Speaker 7: that first time she caught him slipping. You know what
- 38:22Speaker 7: I'm saying? Because I feel like, and I ain't talking
- 38:24Speaker 7: about cheating on her with no woman. I'm talking about
- 38:26Speaker 7: cheating on her in the bathroom with the enhancements and
- 38:30Speaker 7: the spray.
- 38:31Speaker 5: I think that.
- 38:34Speaker 7: For the first moment, the darkest moment was that one
- 38:37Speaker 7: morning when she got up a little earlier, you know
- 38:39Speaker 7: what I'm saying? He probably was drunk or some shit
- 38:41Speaker 7: and slept in and she saw it and was shocked.
- 38:44Speaker 7: I think that might've been the darkest moment. But as
- 38:46Speaker 7: far as what everything you said, you're right. There's no
- 38:49Speaker 7: way in hell Wendy, who again, deeply embroiled in her situation,
- 38:53Speaker 7: there's no way she would have been able to nail
- 38:55Speaker 7: me to the wall like that. Now, Wendy says she
- 38:57Speaker 7: was doing it in the name of their friendship because
- 39:00Speaker 7: further to your point, Carlos, As far as Wendy is concerned,
- 39:04Speaker 7: Tia isn't asking Rob any.
- 39:06Speaker 5: Rob, right?
- 39:06Speaker 3: Rob?
- 39:08Speaker 5: Rob. Tia, I don't know. No niggas names tonight. I'm sorry.
- 39:11Speaker 7: I don't know what's wrong with me. Tia isn't asking
- 39:14Speaker 7: Rob any hard questions.
- 39:16Speaker 5: She's a.
- 39:17Speaker 7: I think when it comes to... This is Tia's second
- 39:19Speaker 7: year being a housewife. She may be a little more
- 39:22Speaker 7: guarded than she needs to be. And unfortunately, that is
- 39:26Speaker 7: obtuse of the flow of this program, right?
- 39:29Speaker 5: So it just doesn't... work.
- 39:30Speaker 7: But I think that she is afraid of full transparency
- 39:35Speaker 7: when it comes to the situation with her husband, Rob,
- 39:37Speaker 7: and his.
- 39:39Speaker 5: Alleged infidelity. Right.
- 39:42Speaker 7: So she wants to be in control of the information
- 39:44Speaker 7: and siphon it out as she deems appropriate.
- 39:47Speaker 5: And that's not the way that this works.
- 39:49Speaker 7: The reason that scene was so frustrating to you and
- 39:51Speaker 7: me both was because we still, it's like we skipped
- 39:55Speaker 7: over any sort of conversation between Tia and Rob where
- 39:59Speaker 7: she's sitting in at her beauty vanity or in her
- 40:02Speaker 7: walk-in closet with a triangle in her hand, cussing his
- 40:05Speaker 7: ass out with that British accent, calling him all kind
- 40:08Speaker 7: of blokes up his ass and every other thing she
- 40:10Speaker 7: can think of where he is telling her like, like,
- 40:14Speaker 7: or like, um, What's Simone's Cecil? Remember when Simone was
- 40:19Speaker 7: going off on Cecil on American medicine about that sports investment.
- 40:23Speaker 5: He was like, so what'd you want?
- 40:24Speaker 3: I took the damn money.
- 40:25Speaker 7: The way that he was yelling. Like we, we need
- 40:28Speaker 7: that interaction for this whole.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Even when Phaedra does remember Phaedra.
- 40:33Speaker 5: Go away from me with this.
- 40:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 40:37Speaker 1: And say, what did you do with Kenya and blah, blah, blah.
- 40:40Speaker 5: All of that. Like, like, We haven't confronted.
- 40:43Speaker 1: Me that that she gets away with this. She is
- 40:48Speaker 1: your second season as a housewife.
- 40:50Speaker 2: No one knocked on your door. OK.
- 40:53Speaker 1: And went through the screen door and said and for
- 40:56Speaker 1: your signature to sign the agreement. You signed on to
- 41:00Speaker 1: do a show called The Real Housewives, a show that's
- 41:03Speaker 1: been on for 20 years. Miss me with, I had
- 41:05Speaker 1: no idea that what I was signing up for or,
- 41:09Speaker 1: you know, this is my real life and I should
- 41:11Speaker 1: be able to say what I want to say. Not
- 41:13Speaker 1: on the show that NeNe Leakes built. Like, this is
- 41:17Speaker 1: disrespectful to NeNe Leakes. This is disrespectful to Phaedra Parks.
- 41:21Speaker 1: This is disrespectful to Cynthia Bailey, Kandi Burris. This is
- 41:25Speaker 1: disrespectful to Candice Dillard Bassett.
- 41:27Speaker 3: Bring back Candice, please. I miss her.
- 41:29Speaker 5: Now that's who needs to come back.
- 41:30Speaker 2: This is disrespectful to Mia Thornton. Don't do me, Dustin.
- 41:33Speaker 1: And this is disrespectful to Ashley and Michael Darby. This
- 41:37Speaker 1: is also disrespectful to Juan Dixon and Robin.
- 41:40Speaker 3: Well, that's bad. You know it's bad when Juan's getting
- 41:42Speaker 3: a shout-out.
- 41:43Speaker 4: Damn.
- 41:43Speaker 1: People, at the end of the day, regardless if y'all
- 41:46Speaker 1: loved them or hated them, they never shied away from
- 41:49Speaker 1: the tough conversations.
- 41:51Speaker 2: Half of these girls may not.
- 41:54Speaker 3: Robin, her last season, got fired because she did. But, yes.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Yeah, like, at the end of the day, I'm supposed
- 42:00Speaker 1: to sit up here and be like, this is the
- 42:02Speaker 1: fourth week where we have not seen you or your
- 42:05Speaker 1: husband talk about something he did. But you want to tell,
- 42:09Speaker 1: but you got more smoke for Giselle than your husband
- 42:13Speaker 1: who's on a dating app disrespecting you. But you want
- 42:18Speaker 1: me to be on your side based on Giselle Kobe
- 42:21Speaker 1: Bryant not telling you about a DM she got when
- 42:25Speaker 1: your man is up in everyone else's DMs, yellow pages, telegrams,
- 42:32Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to sit up here and root for you?
- 42:37Speaker 5: Get out of here.
- 42:38Speaker 3: What about her daddy, though?
- 42:39Speaker 6: She did tell us that the reason she's a wet
- 42:40Speaker 6: blanket is because her daddy had outside babies.
- 42:43Speaker 1: Then tell that to Rob when Dustin said, be at
- 42:46Speaker 1: the vantage, he's giving me Bernadine Peters and waiting to
- 42:50Speaker 1: exhale and say, for 14 years, she was with this
- 42:53Speaker 1: white woman.
- 42:54Speaker 4: Give me something. You're right.
- 42:56Speaker 3: You're right. I have no pushback.
- 42:57Speaker 1: And the fact that your husband set up there with
- 42:59Speaker 1: his glasses on and... Three strands of hair. Don't answer that.
- 43:05Speaker 1: When she said don't answer that, that told me everything
- 43:08Speaker 1: I need to know about her and her stature as
- 43:11Speaker 1: a housewife. Get off the show, go back to Southern Bees,
- 43:14Speaker 1: and go sell a home. Dominique Morgan, what are your thoughts?
- 43:18Speaker 1: I mean, you're the king and you just really lay
- 43:20Speaker 1: it all out. I always come back to owning your
- 43:25Speaker 1: story and how.
- 43:27Speaker 4: you.
- 43:27Speaker 8: Trip yourself up by like exactly what you said. Like
- 43:30Speaker 8: if you knew that from the first season, listen, it's
- 43:32Speaker 8: going to come out. You may not have wanted to
- 43:34Speaker 8: hash it out with the girls, but we would have
- 43:36Speaker 8: had our scenes. Listen, we don't have to go balls
- 43:38Speaker 8: to the walls with this. we're going to have to
- 43:41Speaker 8: dig into this somehow because there's, I don't understand why
- 43:43Speaker 8: she's there. Otherwise I've watched some of her interviews and
- 43:46Speaker 8: she always tries to give like Emma greed.
- 43:48Speaker 4: She tries to give like the interviews.
- 43:52Speaker 8: I watched two interviews, like seriously, like randomly one day
- 43:56Speaker 8: before I realized she was a housewife. Like she was
- 43:59Speaker 8: talking about her business ventures and all of these things.
- 44:01Speaker 8: And then the, in the second interview, they brought up,
- 44:05Speaker 8: they brought up Giselle. I was like, Oh, she's a housewife.
- 44:08Speaker 8: I'm like, how don't I know her? And I also
- 44:11Speaker 8: feel like.
- 44:11Speaker 4: Again, it is hard feeling stupid publicly.
- 44:17Speaker 8: It is. But you also, people don't discuss enough about
- 44:22Speaker 8: privileges that allow you to pull stunts, specifically pretty privilege.
- 44:27Speaker 4: Juan was fine.
- 44:28Speaker 1: He was.
- 44:29Speaker 3: I'm not even going to hold you.
- 44:30Speaker 4: Juan was fine.
- 44:31Speaker 5: So what's the difference?
- 44:32Speaker 3: Her husband is not fine. Her husband was not fine.
- 44:37Speaker 3: Her husband was not fine.
- 44:39Speaker 8: And also, people were invested in the story of Robin
- 44:42Speaker 8: and Juan because it was this historic thing and there
- 44:44Speaker 8: was these kids. You have not endeared us to you.
- 44:48Speaker 8: And I understand that's scary. But if you're not going
- 44:51Speaker 8: to give us the tea, you got to give us
- 44:52Speaker 8: the heart. And you're not giving us either. Now, Wendy,
- 44:57Speaker 8: I want her to stop putting herself in the positions
- 45:01Speaker 8: for the girls to clear her in a nasty way.
- 45:04Speaker 8: Like I want her to, you remember when you used
- 45:07Speaker 8: to mess up when you was younger and you knew
- 45:08Speaker 8: your parents was like, I'm a whoop you. And, and,
- 45:11Speaker 8: but maybe they forgot. And so like for the days
- 45:13Speaker 8: after you was like quiet, you would come in, you
- 45:15Speaker 8: put yourself in this, you, maybe everybody didn't experience that.
- 45:18Speaker 8: But that kind of thing where you just like, you
- 45:21Speaker 8: like days go by and it's like, I'm keeping it cute.
- 45:23Speaker 4: I'm cleaning. I'm doing this.
- 45:25Speaker 8: I want her, this season is a maintaining season for her.
- 45:30Speaker 4: Give us the things.
- 45:31Speaker 8: But sister, give us your full on kind of messiness
- 45:35Speaker 8: next season so you can say you're past it. So
- 45:38Speaker 8: when the girls bring it up, you can be like, oh,
- 45:39Speaker 8: this is put to bed. Because if you were to
- 45:41Speaker 8: ask me about my husband in that way, I would
- 45:44Speaker 8: ask you, what's your plan for.
- 45:45Speaker 4: Your husband being gone?
- 45:46Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 45:48Speaker 8: Like, sister, do you need me to order you a
- 45:49Speaker 8: heating pad? Like, your bed is going to be cold. Like,
- 45:51Speaker 8: what's your strategy?
- 45:52Speaker 4: Have you mapped out how far it is to drive
- 45:54Speaker 4: to the penitentiary? What's your plan? Gas is $ 6 a gallon.
- 45:57Speaker 3: Like.
- 45:58Speaker 4: It would be filthy. But also, those girls in Potomac
- 46:00Speaker 4: don't have butch queens as friends.
- 46:02Speaker 6: I was going to say, Wendy knows who to mess with, Dominique,
- 46:05Speaker 6: because you're realizing Wendy is doing something brilliant but risky,
- 46:08Speaker 6: to Dominique's point, where she knows there's a place you
- 46:12Speaker 6: could go with me.
- 46:14Speaker 3: And I'm still going to go to the very edge
- 46:15Speaker 3: and dare you to say it because if you say it,
- 46:17Speaker 3: you're going to look like an asshole. Because look at
- 46:20Speaker 3: the way she cleared all, Robin included. She's like, hey,
- 46:22Speaker 3: I need y'all to know, Eddie's the one going to jail.
- 46:24Speaker 3: I'm going to still be here watching my hoe.
- 46:26Speaker 6: It's almost like when you go to prison and you
- 46:28Speaker 6: have to beat up somebody to show them that you're
- 46:29Speaker 6: not pussy. And so I think what Wendy is doing
- 46:32Speaker 6: is you think I'm going to be tiptoeing.
- 46:35Speaker 3: I refuse. It's up and it's stuck. Karen can get it.
- 46:39Speaker 6: I don't care if she's coming out of the place
- 46:40Speaker 6: that my husband's going next. Giselle could get it after
- 46:43Speaker 6: I give her advice about how to go to talk
- 46:44Speaker 6: to Congress. Tia could get it because she's.
- 46:46Speaker 3: A wet blanket. Everybody could get it with Wendy.
- 46:48Speaker 6: And the one thing I think that makes me adore
- 46:51Speaker 6: Wendy and heartbroken about the preview for next episode is
- 46:54Speaker 6: the only person who is that vainglorious and audacious is Stacey.
- 46:58Speaker 6: There's a certain audacity that Potomac requires or you will
- 47:02Speaker 6: get bullied, unfortunately, right?
- 47:04Speaker 3: And so on that show, look at Ashley Darby.
- 47:06Speaker 6: Her husband was allegedly doing a lot of things, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly,
- 47:10Speaker 6: and she had audacity and it kind of kept her
- 47:13Speaker 6: afloat for a while. So I actually think Wendy's plan
- 47:15Speaker 6: of being so audacious you can't bully her is probably
- 47:18Speaker 6: the only way she's gonna maintain respect because had she not,
- 47:21Speaker 6: the Green Eye Bandits might have resurrected in a very
- 47:22Speaker 6: different way. Robin, I love Robin still. Robin, I can't
- 47:26Speaker 6: believe that we're four episodes in and I still love you.
- 47:28Speaker 6: I actually am looking forward to seeing more of Robin.
- 47:30Speaker 6: When Ashley called Robin to invite her to the thing,
- 47:33Speaker 6: she was like, this girl clearly wants to make a
- 47:35Speaker 6: moment out of me, but I'm going to still come
- 47:36Speaker 6: and see what happens.
- 47:37Speaker 3: I love the new Robin.
- 47:38Speaker 6: Ashley's trying to get us to fall in love with
- 47:40Speaker 6: her and her Brady Bunch family, and they gave her
- 47:42Speaker 6: a whole weird vignette.
- 47:43Speaker 3: I'm not... The full house thing, that was fucking weird. Sure.
- 47:49Speaker 6: But there are people like Wendy, Robin, even Gisele, being
- 47:52Speaker 6: in front of Congress. Gisele, you know that people live
- 47:54Speaker 6: in D.C. and we all know you can take a
- 47:56Speaker 6: bus to the spot that she took. That whole thing
- 47:58Speaker 6: about her talking to Congress is where the bus drops
- 48:00Speaker 6: you off. I don't know why she was acting like
- 48:01Speaker 6: she had a presidential moment. It's not that serious, baby.
- 48:04Speaker 3: It really isn't. But anyways, though, in a world full
- 48:07Speaker 3: of people who are.
- 48:08Speaker 6: Playing in our faces, I kind of like that Wendy's
- 48:10Speaker 6: walking up and punching the girls on site and saying,
- 48:12Speaker 6: what up, ho?
- 48:14Speaker 3: I kind of like it. And also too, can we
- 48:16Speaker 3: be honest?
- 48:17Speaker 6: I am praying that Wendy's acting as if she's not
- 48:20Speaker 6: going away because she really isn't going away. I hope
- 48:23Speaker 6: her lawyer, actually not I hope, her and her eight
- 48:25Speaker 6: degrees between her and Eddie, I think her lawyer is
- 48:27Speaker 6: telling her don't be ashamed, don't cower.
- 48:29Speaker 3: Because it's going to look like an admission of guilt.
- 48:31Speaker 3: She's acting as if she's innocent. She's acting as if
- 48:34Speaker 3: she's innocent.
- 48:34Speaker 4: She needs to because they'll pull that scene up in
- 48:37Speaker 4: the damn courtroom.
- 48:37Speaker 3: Exactly. That's why she's being so audacious. She's pretending that
- 48:40Speaker 3: she's innocent.
- 48:41Speaker 2: That's why they're being careful.
- 48:43Speaker 3: Okay.
- 48:44Speaker 1: Well, Liz, this was a fabulous show tonight, I must say.
- 48:48Speaker 2: I mean, shit.
- 48:50Speaker 3: Are we not fired like Tia? We're not fired like Tia.
- 48:54Speaker 2: This was a.
- 48:55Speaker 1: Listen, this was a really good episode. Talked about some
- 48:58Speaker 1: very important topics and.
- 49:01Speaker 2: Wow, I love this one.
- 49:02Speaker 5: Okay.
- 49:03Speaker 2: All right, so Raindrops, let us know in the comments
- 49:05Speaker 2: your thoughts. Leave us a comment.
- 49:07Speaker 1: Dustin, Blue, and my beautiful sis, Dominique, thank you for
- 49:12Speaker 1: joining us again tonight.
- 49:13Speaker 2: Keep your phone on, baby, as always. Raindrops, I love y'all,
- 49:16Speaker 2: and we'll see y'all next Monday.
- 49:18Speaker 3: Love you, family.
- 49:18Speaker 5: Peace out.
- 49:19Speaker 4: Love y'all.
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