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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, thanks for tuning into another episode of the
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Speaker 1: Hey, Viking fans, welcome into another episode of the Tailgate
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Speaker 1: three and I'm totally handling it well. I'm just doing
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Speaker 1: really well. I haven't banned all football television in my
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Speaker 1: house for the week on the off chance that I
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Speaker 1: would see something that upsets me, I'm very much handling
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Speaker 1: it like an adult, joining me to talk through where
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Speaker 1: we are and where we're going. One of my favorite comedians,
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite friends, Minneapolis's own Brian Miller.
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Speaker 2: Hello, Brian, Oh, And I'm also known for handling things
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Speaker 2: really well at being really calm. So this is a
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Speaker 2: really good match.
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Speaker 1: You know. That was my fear. So this is your
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Speaker 1: second time appearing on the podcast, and your first appearance
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Speaker 1: was before the New York Giants playoff game. Right, take
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Speaker 1: it down for our audience. All that happened last season
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Speaker 1: is we went eleven and zero in one score games
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Speaker 1: and then I let Brian Miller come on the show,
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Speaker 1: and ever since, Oh, we have lost four consecutive one
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Speaker 1: score games in heart wrenching fashion. So I'm hoping there's
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Speaker 1: some sort of curse of the Miller that by bringing
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Speaker 1: you back on the program, I need to lift the
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Speaker 1: curse and move forward. That's what I'm going to tell myself.
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Speaker 1: So that's your responsibility this week. Your appearance needs to
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Speaker 1: wash away the bad juju that has covered the Purple
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Speaker 1: over the first three weeks of the season.
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Speaker 2: Like cousin Edie. Eddie says, you know, falls down a well,
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Speaker 2: ees go across, gets kicked by a mule, they go
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Speaker 2: right back again. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It's a pretty weird. It's pretty weird. Regression is a
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Speaker 1: thing in the NFL obviously. Yeah, you know, see you
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Speaker 1: don't don't win eleven to one score games and be like,
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Speaker 1: I bet that keeps happening forever. But I don't know
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Speaker 1: that I saw it being so drastically shifted the other direction.
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Speaker 1: A couple of plays here and there can completely shift
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Speaker 1: both seasons. You know, you look at the Bills game
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Speaker 1: and the Colts game. If they don't turn that Colts
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Speaker 1: game around and turn it into a win, and they
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Speaker 1: don't get that fumble in Buffalo, and they lose those
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Speaker 1: two games and they're only eleven and five, and then
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Speaker 1: they stumble on the playoffs. Versus this season, TJ. Hockinson
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Speaker 1: pulls that ball in right if Week one they don't
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Speaker 1: turn the ball over a couple times. It's just funny
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Speaker 1: how it's that old sports cliche. It's kind of a
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Speaker 1: game of inches and a game of moments. It really
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Speaker 1: is painfully true. In this moment, it's.
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Speaker 2: Three snaps that would make this team make absolute sense
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Speaker 2: three snaps, because then he would yeah, you would say, yeah,
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Speaker 2: they look about the same. Because I mean that was
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Speaker 2: the thing about last year. As much fun as it was,
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Speaker 2: I had so much fun watching it, I never had
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Speaker 2: that feeling like I did with like the early dominant
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Speaker 2: Zimmer teams where I was like, yes, we got this,
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Speaker 2: you know, like where you felt like kind of cocky
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Speaker 2: when the game started. You know, even if you're a
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Speaker 2: little bit of an underdog, sure you were like, we
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Speaker 2: got this great young core. These guys are great tacklers,
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Speaker 2: and we're going at them. Because I also, I genuinely
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Speaker 2: do not think the Vikings are one of the four
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Speaker 2: worst teams in the league. I just that is just no,
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Speaker 2: that'd be so obviously, and they're even close. I mean,
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Speaker 2: they're not even the worst team in their division.
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Speaker 1: You know, me, I don't. I don't handle losing well.
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Speaker 1: So I've never been one to carry sports with me
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Speaker 1: once I leave the sports arena. It doesn't I don't
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Speaker 1: let it affect my family, my day, any of those things.
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Speaker 2: But we've talked about this right where like you for
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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, you're the maddest person in the world.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and you let it go absolutely and but I
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Speaker 1: am in this little mini losing streak. I am harkening
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Speaker 1: upon an experience in which I was a member of
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Speaker 1: the worst high school tennis team I think in the
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Speaker 1: history of the United States of America. Worthington, Minnesota was like, hey,
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Speaker 1: let's have a tennis team. And three or four elder
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Speaker 1: classmen went out were on the team, and then they
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Speaker 1: were like, well that's not enough, and so a bunch
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Speaker 1: of US ninth graders were like, will play. I took
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Speaker 1: this is how seriously I took it. The first day
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Speaker 1: I'd never played tennis in my life. I showed up
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Speaker 1: with a wooden racket because I thought that was funny,
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Speaker 1: and they went, you're on the varsity and we got
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Speaker 1: annihilated on a level that was comical. And our coach,
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Speaker 1: Mike Marcuourt, incredible tennis player in his day. The lessons
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Speaker 1: I learned watching that man deal with the worst sports
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Speaker 1: team you've and we didn't like we were like, whatever,
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Speaker 1: who's got snacks on the bus, Like nobody to watch
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Speaker 1: him handle that is I think you can call upon
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Speaker 1: that and be like, you know what you can just
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Speaker 1: you just focus, you put one foot in front of
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Speaker 1: the other, don't. You don't throw a ninth grader off
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Speaker 1: the school bus or slap a juice cup out of
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Speaker 1: his hand. You just focus on the next week and
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Speaker 1: getting there. And one week could change everything. And that's
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Speaker 1: what I'm hoping, Brian, your presence lifts the curse. We
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Speaker 1: go to Carolina, things go well, one week could change everything.
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Speaker 2: Now did one week ever change an everything for your
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Speaker 2: tennis team?
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Speaker 1: It took three years When I was a senior, we
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Speaker 1: were average, So kind of a victory. Yeah, going from
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Speaker 1: the worst team in America to average. Yeah, that's not
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Speaker 1: a small accomplishment, I guess. But yeah, I think you
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Speaker 1: and I both believe that one win could get things rolling. Well,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about this. I think there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: people running around going this is an easy one. You
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Speaker 1: gotta get this one.
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Speaker 2: I agree with the second part.
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Speaker 1: The one thing I've learned doing a show for the
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Speaker 1: team is they have a wide reach, does the team,
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Speaker 1: And so my main goal is to not say something
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Speaker 1: on my silly little podcast that all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: a Panther's defensive back is walking through the tunnel with
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Speaker 1: a game ball in his hands, going take that sigh.
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Speaker 1: I remember when we played my first year working with
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Speaker 1: the team, I did this three keys segment and we
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Speaker 1: were going against the Packers and my job was to
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Speaker 1: like give the keys to winning the game with jokes intertwined,
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Speaker 1: and anytime Wisconsin is in that, yeah, it's dude, it's
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Speaker 1: hammer time. Like I said, I said a lot. I
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Speaker 1: said a lot in a very short segment, and some
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Speaker 1: Packer fan found it online and I don't know what
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Speaker 1: sort of you know, cans attached to strings, but the
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Speaker 1: moment they thumped us and they thumped us, it was
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Speaker 1: like right around Christmas of like nineteen they thumped us.
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Speaker 1: I opened my Instagram and it was like nine hundred comments.
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh boy, Daddy's gone viral. Nope, every
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Speaker 1: Packer fan on the planet was just obliterating me, and
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Speaker 1: they'd done research on me and my It was brutal.
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Speaker 1: So I'm never gonna say that a game is an
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Speaker 1: easy one. It's gettable. There's one that's gettable mm hmm,
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Speaker 1: and then there's one that's gettable three weeks from now, Chicago.
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Speaker 1: That's always tough, but it's gettable, which gives you this
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Speaker 1: cool opportunity. Let's hypothetically Brian say we get the two
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Speaker 1: gettable pieces of bread in the proverbial three game sandwich sure,
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Speaker 1: and then that meat that Chiefs game if you beat
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, if you put
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Speaker 1: it together all of a sudden, three and three might
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Speaker 1: even look better than four and two, if you'd gotten
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Speaker 1: those four wins against everybody except the Bucks and Chiefs.
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Speaker 1: Like it is an opportunity, I think to get us
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Speaker 1: on the right path.
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Speaker 2: By the way, that internet that Wisconsin is actually just
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Speaker 2: seven hundred extension cords that go all the way to Chicago.
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Speaker 2: There's just one long cord to Chicago. Chicago's paying for
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Speaker 2: it all.
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Speaker 1: One of the craziest things about this year is the
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Speaker 1: stats versus like where the ridiculous pace that people on
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Speaker 1: jj I think he got one forty nine in the
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Speaker 1: last game, so he was one away from hitting one
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Speaker 1: fifty every game to open the season. Kirk's stats are nuts.
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Speaker 1: It's it's outrageous to see. It gives you a little
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Speaker 1: bit of hope, even though it hasn't translated into wins.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's fun for people. I'm the worst. Are
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Speaker 1: you a fantasy football guy?
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Speaker 2: No? No, it's one thing I had too much math
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Speaker 2: for me.
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Speaker 1: It's too much pride for me. I'm like, you know,
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Speaker 1: there could be a really really good like AJ Brown
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Speaker 1: could be on the board and I'd go, well, I
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Speaker 1: should probably take kJ Osborne here, Yeah, taking any Eagles.
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Speaker 1: I still dislike the Seahawks, going all the way back
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Speaker 1: to Sean Alexander thumping us on Sunday Night Football when
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Speaker 1: I was a kid. Like so, I'm sure it's been
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Speaker 1: really fun for the fantasy football world to see these stats,
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Speaker 1: but for me to see him, for like us to
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Speaker 1: see him and see the losses, it's almost kind of
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Speaker 1: like this extra like, ah, doesn't that burn? Don't you
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Speaker 1: hate it?
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Speaker 2: I know it's like someone's benefiting, but it's not me.
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Speaker 2: It's definitely not me.
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Speaker 1: It'd be like if the devil called into Minnesota talk radio,
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Speaker 1: that'd be his Collie goes here's my prediction for the year. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Kirk is gonna throw for six thousand yards and seventy
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns. JJ will set the NFL record for receiving
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Speaker 1: and you won't win a single game. Like That's that's
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Speaker 1: what it feels like. It almost feels like an evil trick.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what is it? What a minus seven turnover
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Speaker 2: after three games it's six or seven.
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Speaker 1: It feels like minus a thousand is what it feels like.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's been several very near interceptions and fumbles.
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Speaker 2: That's a torrid.
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Speaker 1: Pace, and I think because they were such crucial turnovers,
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Speaker 1: it feels a lot like when I started dating. So
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Speaker 1: I started dating late.
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Speaker 2: They heard about the tennis.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were like, the worst guy on the worst
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Speaker 1: tennis team in America wants to date me?
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Speaker 2: Pass you want me to make out with wood racket.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. As you know, through my high school in late
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Speaker 1: teen years, I had an Abraham Lincoln style beard, but
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Speaker 1: instead of hair, it was zits, and so I wasn't
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Speaker 1: a prize necessarily, and I did not date. I wasn't
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Speaker 1: one of those guys who had girlfriends in high school.
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Speaker 1: And then in my early twenties, the Lincoln zits dissipated,
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Speaker 1: and then you know, I started trying to date when
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Speaker 1: I was in college. I remember there was this stretch
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Speaker 1: when I was like a junior in college where I
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Speaker 1: went on a few dates in the course of a
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Speaker 1: few weeks, and they were all incredible dates, with one
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Speaker 1: moment that I couldn't overcome. Sure, one of the girls
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Speaker 1: had told me that her sister had named her her
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Speaker 1: new baby daughter something weird, and so I just started
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Speaker 1: listing off all the funny things I would want to
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Speaker 1: name a son, but in a way where I didn't
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Speaker 1: also say, but I do not want to have a
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Speaker 1: son right now.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's like our son will be named.
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Speaker 1: Yes. It was a very cruise. That was crucial. The
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Speaker 1: second week, I just mentioned mid date a date was
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Speaker 1: going amazing that I was raised on a dog farm,
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Speaker 1: which is technically correct. I was raised on a farm
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Speaker 1: where my dad trained and like bread hunting dogs in
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Speaker 1: his spare time. Like, but I never like circled back
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Speaker 1: and gave that explanation dog farm without a deep dive
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Speaker 1: following it. That was a pretty big stumble, right.
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Speaker 2: It feels like it's a farm run by dogs, you know,
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Speaker 2: like when the you know, the dogs you see playing poker,
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Speaker 2: Like they're winding down after a long day of tilling
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Speaker 2: the soil, running the tractors and whatnot.
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Speaker 1: It's animal farm except dogs. That's what it feels. Whatever
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Speaker 1: it is, it doesn't feel good.
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Speaker 2: That's best case scenario.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's exactly right. There's a lot of darker
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Speaker 1: versions of dog farm that we should probably keep off
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Speaker 1: the show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy two puppies in a milk crate while you
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Speaker 2: while your dad counts a giant stack of dollar bills.
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Speaker 1: So I am very familiar with doing a lot of
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Speaker 1: things right only to allow a singular moment to derail
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Speaker 1: an otherwise better situation. That is what these turnovers feel like.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes when you have a lot of turnovers, you're also
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Speaker 1: playing bad football. It just you know, me, I'm not
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Speaker 1: a coach. I don't understand X. But doesn't feel like
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Speaker 1: bad football. It feels like infuriating moments that have surrounded
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Speaker 1: good football. And I mean I think, you know, eventually
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Speaker 1: a lady married me, so we'll figure it out, right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find your Mary Todd.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, you know, it's what this is
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Speaker 2: just how things go. Like last year, you know a
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Speaker 2: lot of things just went the Vikings way, and this
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Speaker 2: year a lot of these turnovers or a lot of
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Speaker 2: the non turnovers. You know, other teams are fumbling the
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Speaker 2: ball and it's just like bouncing right back to them,
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Speaker 2: you know it just the bounces. A couple of times
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Speaker 2: have gone that way where you're like, well that you know,
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Speaker 2: that would have changed, you know, a couple of things
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Speaker 2: would have changed the complexity of either one of those
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Speaker 2: games where some of those fumbles went the other direction.
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Speaker 2: So it's hard to feel too definitive about the Vikings.
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Speaker 2: You know. It's not like like watching the Bucks get
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Speaker 2: spanked by Philadelphia, We're like, yeah, there's the Bucks. Like
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Speaker 2: they still think the Vikings are Bikings are better than
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Speaker 2: the Bucks overall. I think, yeah, I think it was
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Speaker 2: weird that they lost. I don't think they lose that game.
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Speaker 2: They played three more games. I think they went all
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Speaker 2: three against the Bucks. I don't know what. It was,
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Speaker 2: just a weird game.
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Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that has to give you hope.
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Speaker 1: That's why you have to you have to focus on
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Speaker 1: a singular moment that's in front of you. You have
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Speaker 1: to play well, you have to get a win, and
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Speaker 1: then you go, Okay. You see, that is who we
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Speaker 1: are because locker rooms. I've said this on this show
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Speaker 1: a lot, have said this on a lot of shows.
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Speaker 1: Locker rooms are funny places. And that's the thing. Like
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Speaker 1: we were the tennis team that would go get drilled
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Speaker 1: by Redwood Valley and we would be on the court
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Speaker 1: like Hey, well, hey, what's the snack for the boss?
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Speaker 1: Who's got that? Like, we just became our identity. We
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Speaker 1: became kind of our lock Like you lose a couple,
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Speaker 1: That's what happened last year with the Vikings, right, they
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Speaker 1: you just start believing in what you are as much
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Speaker 1: as we the general public, like scoff at sports cliches,
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Speaker 1: locker rooms tend to truly believe them and they can snowball.
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Speaker 1: So I think this many turnovers this early, this is
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Speaker 1: the week that you have to re set the narrative.
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Speaker 1: This is the week that you have to play clean
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Speaker 1: football and not turn it over. Get a good win.
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Speaker 1: So everyone can take a moment and go, that's who
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Speaker 1: we are. The first three weeks. That is a weird
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Speaker 1: confluence of events. That's who we are. And then you
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Speaker 1: try to snowball off that moment, not off the first three.
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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of snowballing environments and locker rooms
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Speaker 1: believing their own narratives, this Miami Dolphins thing is outrageous.
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Speaker 2: Seventy points.
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Speaker 1: And it's not just the points, it's the vibe. Yeah right,
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Speaker 1: it's it's Tyreek Hill set out to prove that he's
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Speaker 1: so good he can elevate another offense to elite to
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Speaker 1: a intent, you know, left for mediocrity, intent to show
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Speaker 1: he's electric. Mike McDaniel, this weird, eccentric play caller who's
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Speaker 1: like ripping play calls that the rest of the league
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Speaker 1: is copying the next week. It's just it's got this
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight Vikings. That's that's what I feel watching it.
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Speaker 1: It's got Randy Moss because there have been powerful scoring
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Speaker 1: offenses before, but the ninety eight Vikings changed football. It.
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Speaker 1: You know, it brought the deep game back. It changed
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Speaker 1: the way the Packers drafted cornerbacks. It just showed everybody like, hey,
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Speaker 1: look at what we can do. And you know, and
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Speaker 1: you have the you know, you had the greatest show
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Speaker 1: on turf. After that, you had the seven Patriots. Some
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Speaker 1: teams have done some truly electric things. It just it
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Speaker 1: feels really special, and it just reminds me of being
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Speaker 1: a teenage kid watching that super special Viking season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, Daniel is really innovating and I love
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Speaker 2: watching too. That no look shovel pass that he did
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Speaker 2: that was it was so cool and I'm so glad
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Speaker 2: of it. To the concussions last year was such a
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Speaker 2: bummer because you know, I think everybody kind of I'd
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Speaker 2: kind of given up on him. I thought I didn't
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Speaker 2: watch a lot of Miami games, you know, from a
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Speaker 2: few years ago, but you think that guy didn't pan out,
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Speaker 2: and you know, he had to be a couple of
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Speaker 2: bad games away from being relegated to aspiring backup, and
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Speaker 2: then now you know, and you watch the guy now
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Speaker 2: and you're like, well, where was this?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting. That's another thing we talk about
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Speaker 1: on this show a lot, is how just the outrageous
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Speaker 1: effect that situations have on professional athletes. The one thing
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Speaker 1: that will be really fun and that I'm rooting for
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Speaker 1: is I would like Philadelphia to lose. I would like
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Speaker 1: I would like the Niners to lose. I can't remember
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Speaker 1: if there's one other undefeated team, but I would like
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Speaker 1: all the undefeated teams to lose, except the Miami Dolphins,
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Speaker 1: because since the seventies, that old group of former Dolphins
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Speaker 1: makes it a big deal to pop champagne when the
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Speaker 1: last undefeated team loses, and I just think that's a
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Speaker 1: fun conundrum.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a funny conunder But also I think those
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Speaker 2: guys increasingly have become like a metaphor for the boomer generation,
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Speaker 2: just cackling about how everything was better for them while
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Speaker 2: they like take pleasure in someone else's downfall and drink
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Speaker 2: expensive liquor. Yeah, you know, like I think it went
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Speaker 2: from fun to like, it's starting to feel kind of nefarious.
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Speaker 2: Old football vampires were sustained by the future losses of
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Speaker 2: other teams.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, bring me the tears of a tyree Hill
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Speaker 1: to keep me moving forward.
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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, m.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Jalen hurts sadness yum yum yum yum yum yum yum. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's very like I met those guys.
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Speaker 2: Text chain was blowing up when they when they added
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Speaker 2: the seventeenth game. They're like, wait, people gotta win a
19:43
Speaker 2: seventheenth game, Like high fivemen.
19:46
Speaker 1: I do like to think about that, Like what a
19:50
Speaker 1: unique rooting interest it was for that seven Patriots, the
19:54
Speaker 1: undefeated team in the Super Bowl where they had to go.
19:57
Speaker 1: They had to They probably all got together like all right, got,
20:00
Speaker 1: we're gonna get together. We're gonna watch the Super Bowl now.
20:03
Speaker 1: In order to maintain our place in history as the
20:07
Speaker 1: only undefeated, all we need to happen is to have
20:13
Speaker 1: the greatest offense anyone's ever seen, led by the greatest
20:18
Speaker 1: quarterback anyone's ever seen, one of, if not the greatest
20:23
Speaker 1: multifaceted tight ends anyone's ever seen, and one of the
20:27
Speaker 1: two best wide receivers anyone's ever We just need them
20:30
Speaker 1: to lose to Eli. That's it, to the nine and whatever.
20:35
Speaker 1: I can't remember. The Giants always came in through the
20:37
Speaker 1: wildcard to win those titles. To have that happen, and
20:41
Speaker 1: to have it happen via the catch on the top
20:43
Speaker 1: of the helmet, Oh yeah, tyree, dude, imagine the party
20:48
Speaker 1: those old men when they were like just sitting there
20:51
Speaker 1: watching their record disappear, and then Eli snakes out and
20:56
Speaker 1: sticks it to a wide receiver's helmet. Bananas. That had
21:00
Speaker 1: to be a banana's environment.
21:02
Speaker 2: Oh my god. They had to be happier than anyone
21:05
Speaker 2: on the planet at that time. And no one's going
21:08
Speaker 2: remotely close to that as the Patriots.
21:11
Speaker 1: At Yeah, you had that Steelers team ran to eleven
21:13
Speaker 1: and zero a couple of years ago. But yeah, I don't.
21:17
Speaker 1: I think there's so much good quarterback play, and the
21:20
Speaker 1: league has changed so much, there's so much parody. I
21:22
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have a hard time getting back to
21:26
Speaker 1: that moment. Let's flip back to the Vikings because I
21:28
Speaker 1: will derail this entire show talking about that Dolphins team Carolina.
21:37
Speaker 1: We get to see Adam Thielen. You know, I think
21:40
Speaker 1: that is it's Joe Montana and the Chiefs to me,
21:44
Speaker 1: you know, in a Chiefs Jersey, it's it's it's weird,
21:50
Speaker 1: you know. I think you're always going to root for
21:51
Speaker 1: Adam Thelon. I think everybody back home will be rooting
21:55
Speaker 1: for him to be good enough to have a great day.
21:59
Speaker 1: But that, yeah, that's.
22:00
Speaker 2: All you want.
22:03
Speaker 1: The real storyline is at the moment of this recording,
22:06
Speaker 1: we don't know Bryce Young Andy Dalton, and you would think, well, hey,
22:11
Speaker 1: you know, it's always better to play the backup Andy Dalton.
22:14
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of seeing Andy Dalton as a Vikings
22:17
Speaker 1: fan that that Cowboys loss a couple of years ago
22:21
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night football is so seared into my brain.
22:23
Speaker 1: Where I walked in, I was like, I want the rookie.
22:25
Speaker 1: I want to see the rookie play. I don't want
22:28
Speaker 1: to play against Andy Dalton. It's just not something I'm
22:31
Speaker 1: interested in.
22:32
Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like Andy Dalton has actually been in
22:34
Speaker 2: the league longer than anyone in history, like even longer
22:37
Speaker 2: than Brady, because like we know, with Brady, you're like
22:40
Speaker 2: you're thrilled, you know, he brings all this clamor. But
22:42
Speaker 2: because Dalton is Dalton, he's just he's sort of frustrating
22:45
Speaker 2: two opponents and friends alike. I don't you know, like
22:48
Speaker 2: he seems like a nice enough guy, but I never
22:50
Speaker 2: root for him. Like it's kind of like, I know
22:53
Speaker 2: the movie is not as long, but if the movie's
22:55
Speaker 2: much worse, it feels longer. Sure, Andy Dalton feels like
22:58
Speaker 2: a nine hour documentary at this point, like how long
23:01
Speaker 2: have you been in this league? But like it's but
23:05
Speaker 2: it's classic Dalton because like here's the thing. He's frustratingly
23:08
Speaker 2: never terrible, right, he always gets you those surprise wins.
23:13
Speaker 1: He's gonna be efficient, he's.
23:15
Speaker 2: Gonna be efficient, and he tends to be efficient against Minnesota,
23:18
Speaker 2: and so it just it's the cumulative effect is just
23:21
Speaker 2: like I can't believe this is still going on with
23:23
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton. So yeah, I would definitely prefer Bryce Young,
23:27
Speaker 2: although he's you know, I was over firm regardless, but
23:30
Speaker 2: he has looked pretty solid.
23:33
Speaker 1: Producer Jay tells me that Andy Dalton and Blaine Gabbert,
23:36
Speaker 1: who if you would have made me bet on whether
23:39
Speaker 1: or not he was still in the league, I would
23:41
Speaker 1: have said nay. They are the only two qbs left
23:45
Speaker 1: from the twenty eleven draft. Gabbert is on the Chiefs.
23:51
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I actually think Carolina not going against
23:56
Speaker 1: the Vikings. They've transformed themselves into a fun team to
23:59
Speaker 1: root for. You know, they have good ownership, they have
24:02
Speaker 1: a very likable coach, they have the first overall pick
24:06
Speaker 1: in the draft. They have Hayden Hurst. Hayden Hurst is
24:11
Speaker 1: a very he was an awesome dude in Cincinnati. He's
24:15
Speaker 1: a fun guy to root for. And his look it's
24:17
Speaker 1: like Hockinson.
24:18
Speaker 2: Hockinson's great because he looks like I drew the Vikings logo.
24:22
Speaker 1: That's kind of the underrated aspect to tight ends. They're
24:26
Speaker 1: so big yet not offensive line big that it's impossible
24:31
Speaker 1: to not let them look unique whatever they are. You
24:34
Speaker 1: remember the movie The Mask, and the whole thing in
24:36
Speaker 1: the Mask was whoever put on the mask, it would elevate.
24:40
Speaker 1: They're like, so Jim Carrey became very silly, but Dorian
24:44
Speaker 1: Gray became extra evil. That's kind of what tight ends
24:49
Speaker 1: are like. If you're like a viking ish looking dude,
24:52
Speaker 1: but you're a tight end, so you're just giant, not
24:55
Speaker 1: big o line, but just a giant restivet Like you
24:58
Speaker 1: look like the biggest Viking of all time. If you're
25:01
Speaker 1: a really handsome guy like Tony Gonzalez, you're like, how
25:06
Speaker 1: is he looks like a handsome statue? Like a life
25:10
Speaker 1: I was just.
25:10
Speaker 2: Gonna say, Tony Gonzalez looks like a statue that's built
25:13
Speaker 2: that you have to stand very far away to look at.
25:15
Speaker 2: You know, yes, been carved him out of a mountain.
25:19
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and you've got you know, you've got
25:22
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst looks like he should be managing a village
25:26
Speaker 1: of elves somewhere in the Smoky mountains, just like picking
25:30
Speaker 1: their house up, Like are you okrry doll now elves?
25:36
Speaker 1: So they they are a really fun team to root for.
25:39
Speaker 1: I think we're you know, we're not against our favorite team.
25:42
Speaker 1: So this isn't a matchup that I go into with
25:45
Speaker 1: any pre existing negativity. I will say I did do
25:49
Speaker 1: the thing that I like to do on this show,
25:52
Speaker 1: which is I spent some time learning about their community.
25:55
Speaker 1: And I'd like to tell you a few things that
25:57
Speaker 1: I learned before we do our prediction. U First and foremost,
26:04
Speaker 1: I want to not like the Carolinas, and I love
26:08
Speaker 1: the Carolinas. I don't know what that is. I don't
26:11
Speaker 1: know how to explain it, but part of me is
26:13
Speaker 1: like whatever, I don't want to. But every time I've
26:15
Speaker 1: been there, I'm like, is this the greatest place? If
26:18
Speaker 1: you put the Carolinas together. They've got that California thing
26:22
Speaker 1: where you can be down by the beach and then
26:23
Speaker 1: you can be up in the mountains. It's I begrudgingly
26:29
Speaker 1: enjoy the Carolinas.
26:31
Speaker 2: I think what's interesting about them is that, like Charleston
26:33
Speaker 2: is a city, is one of the cooler fashion cities
26:35
Speaker 2: I've been to. People dress really really well in Charleston.
26:38
Speaker 2: It's kind of like that. It was like an old South,
26:41
Speaker 2: but like a movie version of it. You know, everyone's
26:43
Speaker 2: wearing like the seersucker suits and the pork pie hats,
26:45
Speaker 2: and the ladies are in dresses and everybody.
26:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if Martin Scorsese directed the Carolinas, yes.
26:52
Speaker 2: But then you go like twenty two minutes outside of there,
26:55
Speaker 2: and it looks like everyone made their own clothes hastily
26:58
Speaker 2: in that morning. But I'm but I love it. I
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Speaker 2: love shrimp and grits, all the shrimp and grits down there.
27:04
Speaker 1: Charlotte specifically is a unique place. It's then the home
27:08
Speaker 1: a nice car, but it's just a nice, easy city.
27:12
Speaker 1: But they are the largest metropolitan area in the United
27:17
Speaker 1: States without a zoo. I read that in learning about
27:21
Speaker 1: Charlotte and or are.
27:23
Speaker 2: They just bad at keeping their animals engages? It's possible
27:28
Speaker 2: they have a tiger and a lion. They just don't
27:30
Speaker 2: have a zoo.
27:31
Speaker 1: They've just done a bad job at running a zoo.
27:34
Speaker 1: I honestly think the opposite would be even worse. This like,
27:40
Speaker 1: whoever's the smallest city with a zoo? That's never a
27:44
Speaker 1: good one. Where you're like, hey, welcome to Parkersburg, West Virginia,
27:49
Speaker 1: smallest city in America with a zoo. You're like, I
27:53
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think you guys should have that
27:56
Speaker 1: at all. That seems like a it's.
27:58
Speaker 2: Sort of a family run operation. Family run zoo kind
28:03
Speaker 2: of got Carol basket vibes.
28:06
Speaker 1: Charlotte is the home of the beginning of America's Gold
28:09
Speaker 1: Rush in seventeen ninety nine, Conrad Reid was on his
28:15
Speaker 1: family's property and he found a seventeen pound gold nugget.
28:21
Speaker 1: It was the first documented goldfinding in the United States,
28:24
Speaker 1: which triggered the nation's gold rush. And I'm not I
28:28
Speaker 1: don't have anything to make fun of that. I just
28:30
Speaker 1: think there's so much now for our senses, like the Internet,
28:37
Speaker 1: and like I think of all television, moving cars, all
28:42
Speaker 1: these exhilarating adventures you can go on, and none of
28:45
Speaker 1: that exists in seventeen ninety nine, So your baseline for enthusiasm,
28:49
Speaker 1: like things that put you through the roof is far lower.
28:54
Speaker 1: Even today. If I found a seventeen pound gold nugget,
28:57
Speaker 1: it would be crazy. Imagine being a guy who there's
29:00
Speaker 1: not even gold in the country in theory, and you're
29:03
Speaker 1: just on your folks property and you're like, what in
29:07
Speaker 1: tarnation is this? Like it's the power ball before the
29:11
Speaker 1: power ball, that had to been the coolest moment in
29:14
Speaker 1: human history. Like everybody, what would you do with a
29:17
Speaker 1: time machine? Honestly, I'm gonna go back and watch how
29:21
Speaker 1: Conrad Reid reacts when he finds a seventeen pound gold
29:25
Speaker 1: nugget and then I'm gonna watch how his family reacts
29:29
Speaker 1: when he tries to convince him that it's a real
29:32
Speaker 1: seventeen pound gold nugget.
29:33
Speaker 2: Because you know what he got to do, He got
29:35
Speaker 2: to bite it. Because whenever you got the gold nugget,
29:37
Speaker 2: that's the one thing I've learned from the movies. You
29:38
Speaker 2: gotta bite it, see what's gold? And I really miss
29:41
Speaker 2: a time when we could bite our money. Would it
29:42
Speaker 2: be great if you were just like at the store
29:45
Speaker 2: and you gave someone a fifty dollars bill and they
29:47
Speaker 2: just like bit into the fifty dollars bill and they
29:48
Speaker 2: were just like, yup, that story checks out, and then
29:51
Speaker 2: they gave you your groceries.
29:53
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I know about today's money. That's
29:56
Speaker 1: a good way to get an infection. The uh Family
30:00
Speaker 1: Dollar chain. The original store was opened in Charlotte in
30:04
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. And I do love the guy who
30:09
Speaker 1: started that, like just the pitch, because now the business
30:13
Speaker 1: model has proven. It's like, yeah, put a dollar tree
30:16
Speaker 1: up there, put a family dollar over here. But imagine
30:19
Speaker 1: back then, be like, all right, what's my business now?
30:22
Speaker 1: See here, in the world of economics, profit margin is key.
30:28
Speaker 1: I intend to have a store full of products where
30:33
Speaker 1: I charge one dollar. Like, I love it. I love
30:37
Speaker 1: that model, and I'm really glad he won with it.
30:39
Speaker 1: I think it's great.
30:41
Speaker 2: Here's the funny thing to think, in like the seventeen hundreds,
30:43
Speaker 2: the dollar store would have been the luxury spot, right, like,
30:45
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you got this from the dollar store?
30:48
Speaker 2: WHOA because you know it's a very static number.
30:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. It hasn't changed at all. Although let
30:56
Speaker 1: me let me use this moment on my highly viewed
31:00
Speaker 1: podcast to send a message out to all the dollar
31:03
Speaker 1: chains out there. You can't be a dollar fifty. We
31:07
Speaker 1: were paying a dollar in eighty nine when old Dollar
31:09
Speaker 1: Tree Jim opened one up in Charlotte. You can't now
31:14
Speaker 1: all this time later be like inflation. No, we overpaid
31:19
Speaker 1: back then and now we underpay. Treat us right, Dollar stores.
31:23
Speaker 2: By way, do what we do in America, keep the
31:26
Speaker 2: price the same and have an increasingly shoddy product. Yes,
31:29
Speaker 2: we're not gonna stop now.
31:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. And speaking of stopping now, I've got one more.
31:33
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna do scores before somebody takes my show
31:36
Speaker 1: away from me. They're like, hey, did you listen to
31:38
Speaker 1: the tailgate this week? No, what happened. I don't know,
31:43
Speaker 1: so I fell apart. I think the team being zero
31:46
Speaker 1: and three had him lose his mind, and he delivered
31:49
Speaker 1: a speech to owners of dollar stores. So maybe we
31:53
Speaker 1: should see if Chad Daniels will take the show over
31:56
Speaker 1: moving forward. Maybe that's the right call. Uh. Maybe the
32:01
Speaker 1: most famous single piece of art about the Carolinas is
32:06
Speaker 1: James Taylor's Carolina in My Mind and Brian. Although this
32:13
Speaker 1: happens a lot in music. Although you might think that
32:17
Speaker 1: that's like, man, I just miss Carolina, what a what A?
32:22
Speaker 1: What an ode to the Carolina's that song is, that
32:27
Speaker 1: is not the case.
32:28
Speaker 2: No, it's just a guy who's just wandering around, getting
32:31
Speaker 2: in people's way, and then whenever he's like, I'm sorry,
32:34
Speaker 2: I was, I had Carolina on my mind. It's some
32:36
Speaker 2: yokel who's like choking the subway entrance. He's in these
32:40
Speaker 2: he's into Chipotle and he doesn't know if he wants
32:43
Speaker 2: a burrito bull or if he wants a burrito. You know,
32:46
Speaker 2: he's got Carolina on his mind. And the whole every
32:48
Speaker 2: verse of the song. When James Taylor sings it, it
32:50
Speaker 2: sounds wistful because you're thinking, oh, I've got Carolina on
32:54
Speaker 2: my mind. Just picture the guy standing behind James Taylor going,
32:57
Speaker 2: it's a revolving door. I don't care what state you're from.
33:01
Speaker 2: I'm trying to go to the bank. And is that
33:06
Speaker 2: the image that you want as Carolina that's your ambassador,
33:09
Speaker 2: is some like slower forced gump who's just getting everybody's way.
33:13
Speaker 2: And then when you go, what is wrong with you?
33:16
Speaker 2: You moron? Goes bump from Carolina and you're like, great,
33:20
Speaker 2: give this guy the tourism bureau job.
33:22
Speaker 1: I have Carolina on my mind. I have the Panthers
33:28
Speaker 1: on my mind. I'm really hoping we win this game. Brian,
33:31
Speaker 1: can you give me a score prediction in your effort
33:34
Speaker 1: to remove the Miller curse and bounce this team forward?
33:38
Speaker 2: Thirty one seventeen Vikings.
33:39
Speaker 1: Thirty one seventeen Vikings. Okay, I'm gonna go. It's in Carolina,
33:46
Speaker 1: a little bit of a revenge game for Thielan. I'm
33:48
Speaker 1: gonna go. Panthers fourteen, Vikings, one hundred and thirty eight.
33:55
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33:59
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