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David Maris of Wall Street Beats on Getting Sued for $4.6 Million | Delulu with Ryan Lu #109 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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  Well, no one wants to hire the guy that just got sued for for
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  4.5 billion dollars, $4.6 billion, right?
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  That's not but I went. First time it's fine, but the
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  second time that's when they're. Like.
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  We're not hiring this guy. Hello Delulu Aziz, and welcome
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  back to another episode of Delulu with Ryan Liu and a very
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  special welcome to today's guest.
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  He is probably our most unexpected guest here on Delulu
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  thus far, but regardless, we are very excited to have him.
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  Please welcome Mr. David Maris of Wall Street Beats.
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  Thank you for having me, but just to be clear, I was invited.
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  I'm not that unexpected like you did expect me to be here.
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  No, you actually walked onto set and then asked to be a part of
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  my show and I said I guess we have a free episode we can do.
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  That is not true, but I'll go along with it.
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  That's. Why?
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  I mean, that's what I was told. I don't know if someone, I don't
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  know if someone lied to me. Well, Mr. David Maris, I would
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  love to give a cute, quirky little intro about you.
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  However, unfortunately your career span is a lot of big girl
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  words that I do not know, so I'm going to pass it to you.
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  I know you do something very important and cool with stocks
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  and finance. Sure.
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  So I was the number one rated pharmaceutical analyst for six
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  years. I was number two or three for
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  another dozen years. And so I picked stocks.
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  I wrote research about stocks, pharmaceuticals specifically,
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  pharmaceuticals specifically. And then I worked on the buy
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  side, which is on the investment side side.
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  I managed a portfolio of a few $100 million and then I went
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  back to the sell side recently retired a few years ago to start
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  Wall Street Beats, which is just a group of us that talk about
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  stocks, so a lot of stocks. A lot of big words that Elmo
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  does not know, but all very impressive.
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  That is super cool. Well, with this career that
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  you're spanning that you just discussed, this is over the
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  course of 1020 years. Yeah, about 2025 years and.
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  Now you're focusing on Wall Street beats, Yes?
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  So walk us through what Wall Street's beats is.
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  So Wall Street beats is a group of about 10 of us that have all
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  had careers in finance. Some are still at jobs like
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  managing a hedge fund or and we talk about stocks and we educate
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  people about how to invest. We talk about, well, should you
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  invest all at once? Should which, which sectors?
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  Since I do pharmaceuticals, I talk about healthcare stocks.
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  Someone else who was the number one ranked oil and gas analyst,
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  he talks about oil and gas stocks.
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  Someone else who worked at Fidelity talks about macro
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  things. So.
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  You guys are well versed. Yeah.
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  So unlike a lot of other places where you don't know who you're
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  getting, they're just somebody on a screen.
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  We're experts that have had had some level of high achievement
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  in our fields. Also somebody on a screen.
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  Yes, that's true too. Experts in your in your
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  professions for that. Where you can look us up and you
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  can see that, OK, we're not just saying it, We've done it.
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  Right, you're right. And then it's a team of you said
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  10 of you. Yes.
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  And we talk about trades that we're actually doing.
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  We're not talking about, you know, OK, this is theoretically
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  what we could be doing. OK, awesome.
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  Well, David, we before you asked to come to set when you walked
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  on to set and I wanted to be on the show.
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  We actually did meet prior in New York City.
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  I was in New York. I haven't been in New York in, I
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  want to say years since I lived in New York.
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  I haven't been in New York. And I was my first time back and
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  I met David at a press event that we were doing for passes,
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  which is the platform that we were both creators on.
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  And that was, it was a great introduction, great meeting you.
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  And that's really what spurred this so.
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  Oh my gosh, absolutely. And being able to talk to you
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  there and like getting to know you, you were, it was so it was
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  so unexpected to me because I, I was familiar with Wall Street
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  beats. Of course, you're all over
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  passes, but I didn't know you know more or enough about it.
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  And you talked to me about it and you talked to me about your
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  own journey with it. And then also how you ended up
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  on passes, how I ended up on passes and we chit out about it
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  was really lovely. Yeah, it's, it's funny when you,
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  when you meet someone who's outside of your, your circle,
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  all of a sudden your circle gets so much bigger.
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  You start to learn things, you start to see things differently.
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  And so likewise, I really enjoyed meeting you.
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  So no, seriously, it was that was actually I think my favorite
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  thing about that trip was being able to talk to you just because
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  I felt like you were really smart and nice and insightful
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  and I felt like I learned a lot from you.
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  You actually brought up something to me because I was
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  telling you about the content I do and I was giving him the
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  exclusive T Lulu on to Lulu Ryan Liu, which had not come out yet.
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  The manifestation podcast. And then we discussed a little
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  bit about your own personal journey, whether it's with a
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  manifestation or creating the life that you wanted for
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  yourself. You mentioned a book that you
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  read that really like kicks your ass into gear.
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  Yeah, so I didn't really tell a lot of people this in my career,
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  but I'm happy to now that to help to help other people.
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  You know, there were two books, both by Tony Robbins.
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  One was called Unlimited Power 1 was Awaken the Giant Within.
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  And it's very similar to a manifestation approach that you
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  take, which isn't necessarily like, oh, wish something and it
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  will happen. It's and you said this when we
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  were talking because I said, you know, I'm not, I don't know much
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  about manifestation, but the idea that you that the universe
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  listens to my energy is very different from how I grew up and
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  what my personal beliefs are my religious beliefs.
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  But I do believe that articulating what you want and
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  then showing up and working hard for those things are all really
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  important. And that's essentially what
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  these two books show. They say, look, imagine what if
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  you achieve this, how would you feel?
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  So think about the positive energy, those feelings, and then
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  alternatively think about how you'd feel if it doesn't happen.
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  Oh, that's new for me. And really focus on that and
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  then imagine that. So go to a place where where
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  that's uncomfortable and then immediately write down 10 or 20
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  things that you could do to make that happen.
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  Then take a couple steps immediately.
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  Don't wait a week. Don't be like, OK, well, when
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  this is better, just take one or two steps in that direction and
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  that momentum will get you going.
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  A. 100% and honestly, that's that's essentially what
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  manifestation is to me too. We did talk about it when we met
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  in New York, but I am a huge firm believer in speaking things
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  into existence, but also taking aligned action to make it
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  happen, which is a part of manifestation.
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  It's one thing to say, hey, I'm going to get this and I want
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  this and I'm manifesting this, but it's another thing to say
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  I'm going to go out, I'm going to put the effort, I'm going to
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  do what I can to meet the universe in the middle to make
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  it happen. And that's really interesting
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  because then when you talk about that feeling of how would it
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  feel to have this thing that you mentioned, right?
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  That's the delulu that we're trying to live in here.
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  It's like embracing being excited that you have this thing
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  that you manifested it. But on the flip side, you said
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  also like acknowledging the possibility of it not happening.
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  That's kind of new to me. So how did they kind of walk
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  through that situation? So first, it's on both ends.
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  It's way more dramatic than it sounds, which is on the on the
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  positive side, when you imagine what it could be, you should
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  spend 1/2 hour, 1015 minutes if you can of.
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  What are your wildest dreams? What's the and?
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  This is what you were actively doing.
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  This. I actively did this, and I'll
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  tell you the story of what happened because it's really
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  fascinating. So I read these books, I put it
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  together. One of the things was to make a
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  certain amount of money within three years, right?
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  OK, So I I did all this. I started working toward it.
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  And I remember my wife was driving me to the train station
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  and I said she was dropping me off to go to work.
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  I said, listen, I have a question.
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  If I get to this number in any annual year of pay, can I buy a
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  Ferrari? Oh, and you got the Ferrari now
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  at the. Time She was really excited like
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  she she was she's like, yes, absolutely because the number
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  that I had put out there was a number that sounded like it
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  could never happen well, my three-year goal I met in a year
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  and just to be clear I went back and I said so can I buy the
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  Ferrari She's like, absolutely not that's ridiculous it's
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  cheesy don't do it and at that point I had matured a little bit
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  more than I was never a car person but to me the idea of if
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  you could make X oh gosh, a Ferrari would mean you really
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  made it those things change as you get older and also as you
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  get closer to it you go wow, I should save this money but
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  having these wild dreams and articulating then coming up with
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  a plan of how to get it. But what shouldn't be mistaken
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  is like, you know, the 12 and 14 hour days of working to get to
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  that it it was again, my religious beliefs believe that
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  you can put things out there. God wants you to get certain
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  things. But that's what I mean by the
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  other side, the negative side. Remember that when you don't get
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  what you look for, you might be getting exactly what you need.
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  Absolutely. I believe in that too.
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  And I also just believe in like just with divine timing and the
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  way that things play out. So with what you're saying and
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  everything with setting the goal, sending out to it.
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  Because honestly, it is really easy to say, hey, I manifested
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  this and this was something I wanted.
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  And I could say that about a lot of things in my life.
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  But if you really look at it and you zoom out, it's like there
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  was time put into this, was effort put into this?
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  Like the success of the things I do didn't just happen overnight.
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  And I feel like that's what a lot of people get lost in.
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  It's just like feeling it's just going to be instant and it
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  really isn't. If you don't put the effort in,
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  it's also not, it's also telling the universe that you're not,
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  you're not trying, you're not wanting it enough either.
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  So I think there's a balance between like, I'm speaking to
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  existence and then also I'm going to go after it.
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  And I think it's really important to do both.
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  And also to know, at least for me to know that if you don't get
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  it, and that happens a lot, because if you believe you can,
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  you can really detail what you want and then work hard for it
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  and you'll get it, you're going to be disappointed over time.
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  Or you might be disappointed. And you also might fall into a
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  really bad trap of thinking that people who don't have things,
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  who want things just aren't working hard enough.
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  And to me that's, I mean, that's not empathy, that's not love.
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  You really have to understand that some people want things
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  more than you want them and they work harder than you do and they
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  don't get things or you work really harder than everyone and
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  you don't get things. And there's a wisdom to it.
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  You might not know it, You might not know it in this life, but
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  and that's the the thing. So it worked out for me on this
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  time. I wouldn't say, oh, it's a
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  blueprint that it always works. I would say it worked.
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  It worked out in this instance, but it was a very set pattern.
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  I would, I recommend those books to a lot of people.
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  I mentioned them to to you that. You did You know what's a really
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  good book you should check out? What?
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  Tululu to true Lulu 10 easy principles to manifest in your
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  dream life. Well, I think I know somebody
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  who was involved in that who should give me a free copy.
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  Oh, OK, entitled. Yeah, I mean, I'll, I'll trade
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  you a bear for for one of those if I can.
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  A bear that Tululu provided for you, but OK, we will put you on
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  the PR list for sub book then. OK, Well that's amazing.
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  And do you feel like today, because I remember when you told
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  me this story, because you did tell me this when we were in New
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  York, you said this was when you were in your early 20s, right?
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  So do you still feel like you practice all of that today?
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  I do, I do a once a year planning.
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  So every year at the start of the year you can do it anytime,
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  but I like doing it at the start of the year as it seems
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  something natural about it. And it's a few day process of
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  really thinking of what do you want to do.
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  And it's gotten a little bit more family focused and
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  different values. As you know, before it was just
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  career. I was focused on that.
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  Now it's like, how do I want to spend my time during this year?
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  I have a lot of brothers and sisters.
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  How do I want to see each one of them?
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  How can I attention? Shifted.
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  Yeah. And so I think that's important
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  to do on a periodic basis of whether it's once a year or
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  every half year. I don't know if I do it every
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  month, but it's a deep process. You know, what I would compare
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  that to is setting intentions. It's like saying, hey, I want to
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  be able to do this throughout this year.
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  I want to have time to make this happen for myself.
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  So essentially, like you're aligning yourself with those
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  goals. And I think it's really
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  important to write them down, acknowledge them exactly what
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  you're saying. Like the beginning of the year
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  is a really great time. You can do it anytime.
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  But then when you, when you say like, I want to do this, like
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  it's also a mental thing where you connect yourself into like
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  going into it and like saying, OK, we're going to make it
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  happen now, right? Yeah, and don't be afraid if
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  things change, don't be afraid to change with them, but also
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  don't change just because you know what this came up that
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  came. If it's if it's an important
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  goal, really push, push for it. But I think a lot of people get
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  caught up on, I'm going to climb this mountain and that's what
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  I'm going to do. And then they don't.
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  And it's so they're so hard on themselves.
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  And, you know, if you don't achieve something that you shot,
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  you shot for, it's OK if you worked for it.
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  If you didn't work for it and you feel bad, yeah, you probably
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  should feel kind of bad unless there was other circumstances.
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  That's so interesting. I think when it comes to like me
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  and like my level of expectations, I have super high
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  expectations with the things I want and if I don't have them
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  met, I am super deeply disappointed.
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  But then I also feel like it just motivates me to push harder
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  or go harder or make it happen for myself, you know?
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  It's like redirection. So when I was first ranked #1 I
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  get the, the magazine sends it to you and actually the bank
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  finds out and they tell you and, and the difference between being
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  number one and being number, say 5 is like 10 times the pay.
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  So being number one is, is really important.
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  In the industry that I was in, probably in every industry,
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  being the number one tennis player is a lot better than
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  being the number 10 tennis player, right?
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  They're probably both pretty great.
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  We're trying to be #1 yeah. So being #1 actually, if that's
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  what you're shooting for. So you find out and it's great.
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  I immediately look to how close was #2.
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  Oh my gosh, I do that too. Yeah.
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  And I noticed number 2 was more than 50% away now that's where
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  you send you, you send your brain good and bad signal.
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  So I was a little happy. The first year was the happiest
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  I was in getting #1. OK.
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  The second year I was like, OK, great.
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  I knew that would happen. Like I it was like more
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  condition. You had more of a that
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  expectation. You already done it.
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  And then I'd look to see how close was #2 and it actually
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  widened in the first few years. I was like, oh, yeah, this is
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  pretty good, this is great. In one year, it was really
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  narrow. And I was like, oh, I was
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  anxious about it. Meanwhile, I was #1 So you also
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  have to take your wins and be pretty, pretty happy about it.
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  But that's where revisiting these goals that you have, like,
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  OK, your goal was to do well. Right.
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  Now what do you? What do you?
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  What is? Why are you being making
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  yourself miserable for this? That's so insightful.
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  I feel that way too. I'm really competitive just in
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  general, like with everything around me, but I'm also
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  extremely competitive with myself.
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  Like I have those goals and when I hit them, I feel like it's
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  never enough for me. And I'm like, OK, now I need to
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  do the next goal. Now I need to do it bigger, now
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  I have to do it better. So I think that part is actually
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  fun and can be very healthy. Where I think so.
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  I think so in some parts. But but, you know, there's a
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  common phrase that comparisons the thief of joy.
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  And if you compare yourself to others, you don't know, you know
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  what they were. And this was only later in my
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  career did I realize this. You know, there were a lot of
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  people who aren't number one who are at smaller banks.
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  And if you're at a small bank trying to be #1 it's sort of
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  like if you are a a pop star and you're going to be #1 well, if
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  you're on an indie label, guess what?
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  It's going to be really hard for you to become.
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  That is such a great comparison. Like literally, I have been
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  reflecting on that so much and I'm just in the pop star way.
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  But it's exactly that. If you don't have the right
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  resources or support, of course, maybe another, you know, let's
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  say podcast could probably get, you know, higher and do better
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  with what they have, you know. Yeah, absolutely.
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  And and you might be thinking you're comparing apples to
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  oranges at that point because you're saying, oh, wait a
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  second, Joe Rogan has a couple more views than I have a.
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  Couple. Just a few, yeah.
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  So. But you're comparing apples and
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  oranges. Right, right.
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  You're right. You know what?
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  That's that's entirely true. I think.
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  I think especially like for a lot of people, it's hard for
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  them to look at the big picture. I know for me, it's really hard
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  for me to look at the big picture.
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  I'm really hyper focused on things.
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  But when you zoom out like that and it's just like, you know,
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  it's not comparable exactly what you said, then I feel like
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  that's that's more reassuring. I've learned it in my career is
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  that you don't know what other people, why this person went
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  from #2 to #10 you go, oh wow, they dropped off.
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  It must be really bad research and you then you find out Oh no,
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  they had a sick parent. That's so terrifying because
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  like as a content creator, all my numbers are so public and out
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  there, and I always feel that way where I'm like, if I'm not
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  performing to my standard or up to par of what I expect for
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  myself, I'm fearful that people are going to interpret me like
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  that. And then it makes me feel bad.
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  It makes me look bad and then it really gets my head about my
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  content and what I do. Yeah.
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  So I worked at a hedge fund that for a while, what they would do
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  is every month put up the monthly performance by portfolio
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  manager and they would post it. You'd get it sent to you, but it
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  would also be posted. And there's lots of reasons that
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  someone might underperform, like maybe their sector that they
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  were investing in, all of a sudden the price of oil dropped
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  and all of the stocks that they liked fell by a lot.
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  Well, it would look like they're doing horribly, but why are you
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  comparing against somebody who does healthcare where their
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  sector was doing well? And so as long as you remember
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  that, listen, I'm I'm racing my race, I'm fighting my fight.
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  I can't be compared. You know, there's no comparison
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  to me. Really great mindset.
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  So they would post it publicly for all of you to see how things
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  are performing. Yeah.
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  OK. So it's kind of like exactly the
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  same what I go through as a creator then.
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  Well, if it were down, by the way, if you were negative, like
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  if you were down for the month, you'd be in red, you'd be in red
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  and not and not green. And I always thought.
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  That I was never seen that color, yeah.
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  I was like, wow, this is not this is not good so.
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  Oh my gosh, hard. It really was.
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  That's so brutal. Why would they do that?
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  Would it motivate people to like poor Carter?
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  I don't think it makes anyone work harder.
• 18:04
  I do think though, it gets you to the odds, to the mindset of I
• 18:08
  really have to focus on what am I doing wrong?
• 18:12
  Why didn't this work out? Is it my stock picking?
• 18:14
  Is it not? But it's sort of like red pen on
• 18:18
  us on a teacher's paper. Did that motivate you that it's
• 18:22
  in red? Red looks like blood, red looks
• 18:24
  like anger. You could do it in green, you
• 18:27
  can do it in blue, you could do. But there's something about red
• 18:30
  pen that just never sat right with me.
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  It's like an authoritative thing.
• 18:33
  I I didn't like it so. Right, absolutely.
• 18:37
  I think it's also like a psychological thing, you know,
• 18:39
  it stands out too, you know, so it's like right there in your
• 18:42
  face. Well, you have discussed like
• 18:44
  obviously being number one and congratulations, but you've been
• 18:48
  through a lot of turbulence as well within your own life.
• 18:52
  My Co writer and I were researching and we've seen that
• 18:55
  you have been sued by this is a big word for Elmo big
• 19:01
  pharmaceutical. Yes, and this was by Biovail
• 19:09
  because you were a whistleblower and a bank institution had fired
• 19:17
  you. Can you tell us about that?
• 19:20
  Yeah, so. And this goes actually to the
• 19:22
  idea of you don't know what people go through.
• 19:23
  So I wrote a report and the company really didn't like the
• 19:28
  report. So on Wall Street, a lot of
• 19:31
  people say buy this, buy this. Very few people say sell.
• 19:34
  And part of the reason is that, you know, banks make a lot of
• 19:38
  money when they do deals. And if you are an analyst and
• 19:42
  you say sell, that company won't do a deal with your bank.
• 19:46
  I've never seen a company do a deal with a bank where someone
• 19:48
  had a OH. My God, it's like so unheard of.
• 19:51
  Yeah, so I wrote sell on a company and the company really
• 19:55
  didn't like it. I said that they, they missed
• 19:59
  their their earnings for a very specific reason that they, they
• 20:02
  said they had a car accident or a truck accident.
• 20:05
  It was like a dog ate my homework type of thing.
• 20:07
  They said we're going to miss our revenue numbers because a
• 20:10
  truck turned over. Got you.
• 20:12
  And it really did turn over. But I interviewed people who
• 20:15
  were there who said there was nothing on the truck, really not
• 20:17
  a lot on the truck. So I wrote this report had a lot
• 20:20
  of other detail. I put out the report.
• 20:23
  The stock actually went up that week.
• 20:25
  So as #1 and as powerful as in my mind I might have thought I
• 20:29
  was, it actually didn't have the effect that that many people
• 20:32
  remember it. This was very, this is still a
• 20:34
  very famous report. They eventually, about a year
• 20:38
  later, sued me as they were being investigated by the SEC.
• 20:41
  They sued me and a few others for $4.6 billion.
• 20:46
  Billion with AB. So no analyst has ever been sued
• 20:50
  by by an issuer for more than a billion.
• 20:52
  Dollars. Did you like shake your pants?
• 20:54
  Well, I make the joke that, you know, the 1st 4.6 billion I
• 20:58
  figured I'd cover, but the a few days later, a week later, I was
• 21:01
  sued in a class action lawsuit for another 4.6 billion.
• 21:05
  And that was really painful. But no, the, the real I, I knew
• 21:10
  I was right and I didn't do anything wrong.
• 21:13
  So I was more indignant and I was more like, how could they do
• 21:18
  this? My bank, the bank that I worked
• 21:21
  for immediately put out a press release that said we stand
• 21:23
  behind David. He's #1 he's been number one for
• 21:26
  a bunch of years. We stand by his research.
• 21:28
  If anyone ever says, hey, I stand by you, that means you
• 21:33
  should start looking for another job.
• 21:35
  That means they're legally required to say this.
• 21:38
  And they're really upset. And so within about a month, I,
• 21:42
  I was fired. Did.
• 21:44
  You see that coming? I will say I didn't see it
• 21:48
  coming until a couple days beforehand.
• 21:51
  A friend of mine who knew what was happening said be really
• 21:54
  careful, they're going to fire you.
• 21:56
  And I give him. I've never thanked him about it,
• 22:00
  but he he could have been fired for telling me that and he was
• 22:04
  just a dear friend for doing that.
• 22:05
  I couldn't do anything about it. Years later, someone explained
• 22:10
  to me that, you know, you can have a disagreement.
• 22:13
  I think that the bank and I probably disagree on what why it
• 22:17
  was. But someone explained to me that
• 22:19
  they believe if I had gone into a court case and said yes, they
• 22:24
  the bank made me write these bad things about this company,
• 22:27
  they'd be on the hook for for billions.
• 22:30
  And so it was convenient to Get Me Out of the way while this was
• 22:34
  all litigated. Either way, it was a really good
• 22:37
  lesson for me because at that time I was really thinking #1
• 22:43
  was my identity and we've talked about.
• 22:45
  A lot of steam into that. Yeah, and we talked a lot about
• 22:48
  that. And that's great.
• 22:51
  But the biggest lesson that I got out of it, they they told
• 22:54
  all of the people that I worked with who some of them were
• 22:57
  really good friends. Don't talk to them.
• 23:00
  This is part of active litigation.
• 23:01
  If you talk to them, you might be dragged into this.
• 23:03
  Don't do it. And so some dear friends of mine
• 23:07
  who I helped get jobs with me, who I can say I actually helped
• 23:12
  get them rich, just stop talking to me.
• 23:16
  Oh, really? Yeah.
• 23:17
  I mean and do. You, how do you feel about that?
• 23:19
  It's like it's business, right? But then it's like loyalty,
• 23:22
  friendship, like. I view it as everyone has a
• 23:24
  decision to make of the person they want to be.
• 23:27
  I would never do that. Two people, that's powerful and
• 23:31
  I'm still friends with them. The other people, most of which
• 23:34
  I've only talked to once since then in 20 years or 15 years.
• 23:39
  And it's not that I wouldn't talk to them.
• 23:41
  I mean, because I don't think carrying grudges and anger is
• 23:44
  really great. But I tell you that because in
• 23:47
  your life you can manifest a lot of things and you can wish
• 23:51
  things and you can, but you'll find out that people disappoint
• 23:54
  you. So that's T Lulu.
• 23:58
  T Lulu. Well, we're going to send your
• 24:00
  two besties that had your back a Dulu hat.
• 24:03
  That's a thank you. Yeah, they'll, they'll say wait
• 24:05
  a second. So I I I had your back and I got
• 24:08
  a hat. Yeah, that's more than I've
• 24:09
  gotten in the last 15 years. So thank you.
• 24:11
  Yes, Oh my God, we got them covered and they could wear the
• 24:14
  delulu hat proudly available in my past the store.
• 24:18
  But it's interesting because I'll send them to your past the
• 24:20
  store to to pay for it rather than because they should.
• 24:24
  I don't think you should get extra credit for doing what's
• 24:26
  right. Interesting.
• 24:27
  It's nice and I I'm. A big gift giver.
• 24:30
  Well, all right, well, OK, so I'm taking this bear.
• 24:34
  You can't claim to be a big gift giver and not like.
• 24:39
  I gave you 2 hats prior to the show.
• 24:41
  Big gift giver is 2 hats and a bear but OK.
• 24:44
  Yes, but I don't. Three more gifts than you had
• 24:47
  before you entered my set. That's true, but I would have
• 24:50
  stolen a couple anyway, so I though think you don't get
• 24:53
  credit for doing what's right. And those, those guys I'm still
• 24:56
  friends with and I think the world of them.
• 24:58
  I think they're really nice people.
• 25:00
  The others, I just think that they were, you know, protecting
• 25:04
  themselves and protecting what they think was their money.
• 25:08
  So they take it personally then? No, I put it more on them of
• 25:12
  like, hey, listen either. And that goes back to the idea
• 25:15
  of you don't know what's going on with you.
• 25:17
  I don't know, maybe they weren't raised well.
• 25:18
  Maybe they maybe they had such big bills that they were afraid
• 25:23
  that if they got into a lawsuit and somehow got in trouble that
• 25:26
  they wouldn't ever work again. I don't.
• 25:28
  That could be scary dairy. I can't be responsible for how
• 25:31
  they feel. I just know that that's not how
• 25:33
  I would act and that's not how I'd want my children to act.
• 25:37
  And I I expected more out of friends, but you know, everyone
• 25:41
  has a choice. Well, that was like you said,
• 25:43
  1520 years ago now. Yeah, about 15 years ago.
• 25:45
  So what was the outcome of this lawsuit?
• 25:48
  Oh, so it's interesting because Harvard Business School case has
• 25:51
  been written about and I teach it every year at Harvard.
• 25:54
  Right, I attended it. OK, well, you should.
• 25:55
  Next year it's every April. I'm a Harvard student, so yes.
• 25:59
  I would go. I actually did it at another
• 26:01
  university. Other schools teach it.
• 26:03
  No one's been smart enough to ask me to come because I'm more
• 26:06
  than happy to teach the the class.
• 26:09
  But I explained that the lawsuit was thrown out.
• 26:15
  New York Times wrote a thing of how I was totally vindicated
• 26:17
  that the CEO had to resign and not be part of a public company
• 26:21
  for I think it was three years. They had to pay fines to the
• 26:26
  SEC, to the Canadian Stock Exchange.
• 26:29
  And you know what, I was, I was right.
• 26:31
  I was vindicated. But, you know, whistleblowers
• 26:34
  don't win out, whether a tobacco whistleblower, any sort of
• 26:37
  whistleblower, you don't win out in the in the long run, but you
• 26:42
  do it because it's the right thing to do.
• 26:43
  Did you expect to lose that? No, no, no, no, the whole time,
• 26:49
  but the whole time I knew I was right.
• 26:51
  I knew that this like I will say though, during part of this, I
• 26:57
  did something that I that I, it's important to to tell you
• 27:01
  this. So afterwards, I like during the
• 27:05
  middle of all this, I went to see my priest and I don't I
• 27:09
  don't go to church enough. I'm sad to say that he
• 27:12
  recognized me when I went to see him, but he didn't.
• 27:14
  She's like, who are you? But but I said, look, I want to
• 27:17
  pray for justice because, you know, they have a lot of my
• 27:21
  money and This is Money. And they said, I'm glad you said
• 27:24
  pray for justice because there is no justice in this world.
• 27:28
  Sometimes there is, but let's just be clear, you didn't say
• 27:32
  you want to pray for money and winning.
• 27:34
  And but you said, but you know, today someone's going to be born
• 27:38
  with a birth defect and someone's going to go to jail
• 27:41
  who didn't do what they're accused of.
• 27:43
  And he went through a list of things and I was never in my
• 27:48
  entire life, I've never been more humbled because I actually
• 27:52
  was going to say, Hey, let's can we pray for my winning?
• 27:55
  Like I want to win this. And, and what he said was
• 28:00
  exactly what I needed to hear, which is, don't you know, don't
• 28:06
  think that just because you wish for something that you're going
• 28:10
  to get it. You're not that special.
• 28:12
  You're special. He didn't say these words, but
• 28:15
  you're special. But be humble knowing that the
• 28:17
  world doesn't work out that way. So it was the best lesson I've
• 28:22
  ever learned. Like being told you ain't shit
• 28:25
  by a priest. Well, I would say more like,
• 28:28
  listen, you think you're doing something righteous by praying,
• 28:32
  but you're really what you're doing is trying to win and
• 28:35
  understand. And so I the reason I mentioned
• 28:39
  the teaching the course is because at the end I always say
• 28:41
  the same thing, which is I would do it 100 times over, even
• 28:45
  though it was really painful. They had private eyes following
• 28:48
  not when I say they the other company following my wife and
• 28:51
  kids around, following me around, just trying to
• 28:55
  antagonize us. And now they would say it wasn't
• 28:59
  trying to antagonize, it was just trying to monitor you.
• 29:01
  So I'll say different people are going to have differences of
• 29:04
  that. I thought it was antagonistic,
• 29:05
  but. Yeah, that's like intimidating.
• 29:08
  But so you, I would do it 10 times over again because it's
• 29:12
  the right thing to do, you know, It was really traumatic though
• 29:17
  for my family. We had to have private eyes
• 29:19
  parked. Our own security people parked
• 29:20
  in our driveway while they were parked outside.
• 29:23
  The opposing team had people parked outside our house
• 29:26
  watching us. How long did this go on?
• 29:28
  For Months. That's.
• 29:30
  And what they're hoping, what they're hoping is that you go
• 29:33
  crazy and hit their car with something and whatever.
• 29:36
  So. So they got something on you?
• 29:38
  Then they can say, look, look at how unstable he.
• 29:40
  Is he's totally. So what I explained is that you
• 29:46
  might think everyone should do that, like, OK, everyone should
• 29:50
  stand up for what's right. And I do think people should do
• 29:53
  that. But you don't know.
• 29:54
  I mentioned earlier someone has an elderly parent and so you're
• 29:58
  like, why don't they whistleblow?
• 30:00
  You know, well, maybe they're making a different trade off.
• 30:02
  Maybe it's not a good trade off as a whole.
• 30:04
  Everyone for society so different.
• 30:06
  So you never know. And that was the that was the
• 30:09
  part that you start to give other people grace of why they
• 30:13
  don't do what you think is right.
• 30:14
  It's very generous of you, honestly, better than me.
• 30:17
  But in the aftermath of that entire situation, you felt like
• 30:21
  you were blacklisted from Wall Street or you were blacklisted
• 30:23
  from Wall Street. Well, no one wants to hire the
• 30:25
  guy that just got sued for for 4.5 billion dollars, $4.6
• 30:29
  billion, right? That's not but I wait the.
• 30:31
  First time it's fine, but the second time that's when they're.
• 30:33
  Like we're not. Hiring this guy.
• 30:35
  No, because because you come across as a troublemaker when
• 30:38
  you're not in trouble, you're just doing your job.
• 30:40
  So I ended up going to a hedge fund right away, like it was
• 30:43
  within a month, the hedge fund manager said, look, I've seen
• 30:48
  this type of thing before. Like this is I'm not worried
• 30:50
  about this at all. And I give him a ton of credit
• 30:53
  because he saw what my integrity was and said great join like and
• 30:58
  and I really loved my time there.
• 31:00
  So then following this entire situation, you do that.
• 31:02
  This is your redemption era, and now you're moving your way back
• 31:06
  through Wall Street. And of course, you know, as you
• 31:09
  go throughout your career, you're now a part of Wall Street
• 31:13
  beats. Yeah, So it's been a long part
• 31:15
  part from there. So I went from Bally Osney Asset
• 31:18
  Management, a hedge fund to I thought, oh, you know what, I
• 31:21
  want to go back to the sell side to my old job.
• 31:23
  I did that and I enjoyed it. It was fine.
• 31:26
  I I uncovered a few other big frauds.
• 31:29
  Oh my gosh, yeah. No, they were really, really big
• 31:32
  and. Each off at the Lulu.
• 31:33
  Well, where they were all, all of the rest of the street was
• 31:36
  like, I love this company. I love this company.
• 31:38
  I was like, no, this isn't. And one of the companies went
• 31:40
  from $250 to like, I think today it's like $9 or something.
• 31:45
  So it really fell apart, which is great because it was really
• 31:48
  scammy. But so then I retired and I was
• 31:51
  like, I want to be busy, but I don't want to work for another
• 31:53
  bank and I want to be engaged. And somebody was saying said,
• 31:58
  look, we're putting together a group that talks about stocks.
• 32:00
  Would you want to be part of it? I was like, yeah, great.
• 32:02
  We'll democratize what I used to be doing and we'll give it away
• 32:06
  for a very low price and help people learn how to to invest
• 32:11
  so. That's amazing.
• 32:12
  And you're offering that now on passes?
• 32:15
  Yeah, it passes slash Wall Street beats and we launched
• 32:18
  just about a month ago, maybe two months ago and we had
• 32:22
  transitioned from another platform and it's been great so
• 32:24
  far. Congratulations, that's
• 32:25
  incredible. You're all over, passes.
• 32:27
  Thanks. I'd like to say it was because
• 32:29
  we saw you, Ryan there that we came over.
• 32:32
  But I know that if I said that you'll probably want to take a
• 32:35
  piece of or business so. I would never ask for that,
• 32:37
  David. I am notoriously the face of
• 32:40
  passes, so I understand why you joined because of me.
• 32:43
  You're welcome. No, no problem.
• 32:45
  We will discuss the equity later though.
• 32:48
  Well okay, so with Wall Street beats.
• 32:50
  So the premise is, is the 10 of you discussing and like advising
• 32:55
  what to do with? I'm like very not versed in
• 32:58
  stocks or financial finances. I'm actually financially
• 33:01
  illiterate. But can you explain it to
• 33:04
  someone who might not be versed in me?
• 33:08
  No. So I give you a lot of, I give
• 33:10
  you a lot of credit for saying that because a lot of people are
• 33:12
  embarrassed for saying like, look, I'm really good at this
• 33:15
  and that. And you'd be surprised how many
• 33:18
  doctors or people who are, who are great at science influencers
• 33:22
  that all of a sudden they're making money and they never
• 33:25
  studied finance. They don't, they don't know
• 33:27
  like, okay, So what do I do with this coming in?
• 33:30
  So we're not giving advice because advice really has to be
• 33:33
  personalized. We're kind of giving
• 33:35
  information. We give two types of
• 33:36
  information, our view of the markets and our view of how
• 33:40
  we're investing our money. For some people, they may find
• 33:44
  like, OK, these are really good ideas, this is something I want
• 33:46
  to do. But since we're going to a big
• 33:49
  audience, someone might have very different financial
• 33:53
  circumstances than somebody else.
• 33:54
  So we can't give advice because advice is really hard to give
• 33:58
  for individuals when you're talking to A to a really big
• 34:01
  group. Right.
• 34:02
  It's more personalized if you were to do that.
• 34:04
  So it's more of just saying like you and the rest of Wall Street
• 34:08
  beats are saying what you personally are doing and they
• 34:11
  could take it as is. So they're learning from you.
• 34:13
  Yeah. And we have as subscribers, we,
• 34:16
  we obviously can see some people communicate with us and say,
• 34:19
  hey, by the way, great work. So we have everyone from
• 34:23
  individual investors who are just starting out to hedge fund
• 34:26
  managers or portfolio managers who manage billions.
• 34:29
  And so it's a wide range and they all seem to be getting
• 34:34
  something out of it. That's amazing.
• 34:35
  And the intention of this is, you know, for the people who are
• 34:39
  part of Wall Street beats outside of the 10 of you, but
• 34:42
  your subscribers, the people who are members of that, they can
• 34:46
  get the advice that they need so they can start generating money.
• 34:49
  Yeah, So we want everybody who can to invest first.
• 34:53
  We we want people to know that the best way to build wealth is
• 34:56
  slow and steady, right. And to have the tools to think
• 35:00
  about that. So for sophisticated investors,
• 35:02
  here are individual stock ideas that we're that we're looking at
• 35:06
  for beginning investors. We want to explain, OK, how do
• 35:08
  you set up an account? What other things when you're
• 35:11
  thinking about bonds, what's up? What is a bond?
• 35:13
  What a lot of people don't even know what a stock is.
• 35:15
  Or I ran into someone the other day.
• 35:17
  No, they said, look, I hear on. I said, oh, the market's down.
• 35:20
  I'm not in such a great mood. And they were like, OK, for
• 35:23
  whatever that means. I said, what do you mean?
• 35:24
  I said, well, I don't know what that means.
• 35:27
  I said, OK, well, it's the stock market.
• 35:29
  So it's a bunch of stocks and the market went down.
• 35:31
  They go, OK, I, I understand the words you're saying.
• 35:34
  And so I explained, though a stock is like a piece of a
• 35:37
  company, like a slice of a pizza.
• 35:40
  And so you split it up a million ways and then you own that
• 35:45
  little piece of a company. If you bought the entire pizza
• 35:47
  pizza, you'd own the company. OK.
• 35:50
  So now that you own that stock, the stock goes up if the company
• 35:54
  does better? Yes.
• 35:55
  OK, if the company does worse, guess what?
• 35:57
  Your slice of pizza is not worth as much.
• 35:59
  Now, unlike a pizza, your stock doesn't expire.
• 36:03
  Like you don't have to consume it but.
• 36:05
  When you have that stock, you are investing in that stock.
• 36:07
  You're investing in that company for some people for some people,
• 36:12
  OK, I want to own one share of Coca-Cola or one share of
• 36:16
  Google. Other people say, OK, well, I
• 36:19
  want to own a big group of them because I don't I can't pick
• 36:22
  individuals. So that's called an index fund.
• 36:24
  So we try to explain to people what the different approaches
• 36:26
  are, but don't be embarrassed of.
• 36:29
  Listen, I just don't know that because I if I went to an expert
• 36:34
  in social media and I said, hey, Ryan, tell yo, tell me, how do I
• 36:41
  do exactly what you do? You'd be like, well, well, I
• 36:43
  don't have enough. Trust Fund 65 Blue.
• 36:47
  Eyes Yeah, well it is great to. One way to build wealth is to
• 36:51
  start with a trust fund. So unfortunately I didn't do
• 36:55
  that so. OK.
• 36:56
  Well, can I ask you something about the stocks and the
• 37:01
  investing? Would you invest in stocks in
• 37:04
  Delulu? Absolutely.
• 37:07
  Yeah. You would, you would call you're
• 37:09
  a long, you're a strong buy. OK, Yeah, that's good.
• 37:14
  Yeah, that is a good thing. So.
• 37:15
  Wait. Thank you.
• 37:16
  I'm so honored. Yeah, Delulu's going to blow up,
• 37:18
  so get your share now, besties. Yeah, and that's true.
• 37:22
  They should. How do they get a share?
• 37:23
  What do they what do they do? Yeah, besties, the best way that
• 37:26
  you can invest into Lulu with Ryan Liu is if you join my
• 37:29
  Vasa's besties at the link in my bio.
• 37:32
  It's how we get direct feedback from you and integrate you into
• 37:35
  the show, which we'll be doing later today.
• 37:38
  I actually have a little investment for you.
• 37:42
  Yeah, So I have a little Citroen crystal.
• 37:46
  This is, if you're not watching on the Spotify exclusive
• 37:49
  version, video version of the show.
• 37:51
  This is a Citroen. It is considered the merchant
• 37:53
  stone and it helps you manifest money.
• 37:56
  Awesome. Well, I can always use that.
• 37:58
  So yes, I'll let you know how it works out.
• 38:01
  OK, perfect. Now if we're keeping count here,
• 38:03
  that is for gifts. Now for David Maris, who said
• 38:07
  I'm not a gift giver. You know the problem with this
• 38:09
  is after this every other guest is going to expect at least 4,
• 38:13
  so you've set yourself up for trouble.
• 38:15
  Every guest gets individualized gifts personalized to them, and
• 38:20
  you will find out what your gift is when you're a guest on the
• 38:22
  show. Well, we have a Citroen for you.
• 38:25
  So that's my investment into Wall Street beats.
• 38:28
  Well, thank you very much. Yeah, yeah.
• 38:30
  And then we're going to have it, you know, manifest even more
• 38:32
  money perfect. And success and advice.
• 38:35
  Well, David, I wanted to talk a little bit about your social
• 38:39
  media. You had brought that up.
• 38:41
  You are actually very big on social media, and we're talking
• 38:45
  about your Twitter account at David Maris.
• 38:47
  Yeah, I would love for people to sign up.
• 38:49
  I mostly talk about drug stocks and the healthcare industry and
• 38:54
  the. Questions about your tweets just
• 38:55
  cuz I'm not used to see it or like understanding it.
• 38:59
  Yeah. But I talk about a lot of other
• 39:00
  stuff too, so shoot away. OK, well, OK, let's get into it.
• 39:03
  So we're going to talk about some tweets that you had
• 39:06
  tweeted. And I would love it if you can
• 39:08
  explain them to me just as someone who's not versed in any
• 39:10
  of this, like it would help. And then if you can explain it
• 39:13
  to the best, you lose as well. Our first tweet is from at David
• 39:18
  Maris. And the tweet says the problem
• 39:21
  with social media is that any clown with a microphone can
• 39:29
  pretend to be an expert about the stock market or anything for
• 39:32
  that matter. And it includes a cute little,
• 39:34
  cute little picture of a clown. Yeah.
• 39:37
  Can can we talk about this? What does this tweet mean?
• 39:39
  Who's the clown with the microphone?
• 39:41
  It's absolutely not directed at you because you have two
• 39:43
  microphones. You're, you know.
• 39:44
  Right. OK, clarify.
• 39:46
  No. I was looking at one of our
• 39:48
  competitors and they're way more, you know, active on social
• 39:52
  media and they have a lot of subscribers.
• 39:57
  But their analysts have, from what I can tell, no real
• 40:00
  background, no real expertise in finance.
• 40:03
  They haven't achieved what our team has achieved.
• 40:06
  And some of their advice I think is dangerous to follow now.
• 40:11
  They may be cheaper than we are, and they may be.
• 40:16
  More accessible in some way that makes them better?
• 40:18
  No, And that's who I was directing it.
• 40:20
  It was very targeted. I don't think the person knows
• 40:22
  that I was targeting them, right.
• 40:24
  Internally, our team knows exactly who I was targeting.
• 40:27
  Oh my God, yeah. And it was really, you say
• 40:29
  you're competitive. I was more like trying to call
• 40:32
  them out as like, you know, did they?
• 40:34
  See that tweet? I they didn't say anything about
• 40:36
  it, but. Do you personally know them?
• 40:39
  No, I don't, No. In fact, I watched one of their
• 40:42
  shows. They allowed, they said, oh,
• 40:43
  here's a free preview. I watched the show and it was
• 40:46
  really bad advice. And I'm and I, I, everyone who
• 40:49
  knows me knows integrity. I, again, I face down a $4
• 40:53
  billion lawsuit. Integrity is something I would
• 40:56
  never give up. I if Wall Street beats is a wild
• 41:00
  success or if it's not, it's not going to.
• 41:02
  I can't buy another steak with it.
• 41:04
  I can't. It's not going to change
• 41:05
  anything in my life of what I of what I do.
• 41:09
  But I don't stand for people trying to cheat other people.
• 41:13
  Right, absolutely. And that's something that you
• 41:15
  definitely don't want to, you know, encourage either,
• 41:17
  especially of what you're doing because this is people's money
• 41:20
  and this is like people's like, you know, what they're investing
• 41:22
  in. It's a big deal.
• 41:24
  If they were doing it for free, I'd be like, OK, well, you you.
• 41:27
  Still could be harmful. I still think it's very harmful
• 41:29
  and that's why I think people who who watch these, that's why
• 41:31
  I say they're clowns. And what I was really saying is
• 41:35
  take a look at whoever you're listening to, if it's finance,
• 41:38
  your financial, you know, social media and say, well, what do
• 41:42
  they know? Like what, what experience do
• 41:44
  they have? And even if they have a lot of
• 41:46
  experience, also be a little bit cautious because they may be
• 41:49
  promoting something that they're getting paid on.
• 41:52
  So you know what? Instead of watching their show,
• 41:54
  what would you recommend instead?
• 41:57
  Read a few books. A lot of people.
• 41:59
  A lot of people. Any any specific books?
• 42:02
  Yeah, I think there's there's one an older book called
• 42:05
  Contrarian investing by Oh, you're saying your book?
• 42:09
  I don't I don't know if your book would help people with with
• 42:13
  finances so much, but I recommend my.
• 42:15
  Book would help everyone with everything so.
• 42:17
  I'll I'll recommend that they do that having not read it myself,
• 42:20
  but you know, getting my free things I probably.
• 42:23
  Should say gift #5 yeah at some point.
• 42:25
  Yeah. So I'll say it, but I think
• 42:27
  financial books, they're it's more of starting like starting
• 42:33
  to look at things that you, it takes work right to to be good
• 42:37
  at anything. So Susie Orman, she has a bunch
• 42:41
  of books. She's very, very famous.
• 42:42
  Her advice is actually very solid.
• 42:44
  It's not always the most palatable because she tells
• 42:46
  people on her show and like, no, you can't afford that.
• 42:50
  But my God, so she's like an acquired taste of a person, you
• 42:53
  would say? I think she's fantastic, but I
• 42:55
  think some people. Just say that.
• 42:57
  Some people just want to hear oh good things, only positive
• 43:01
  things. But. 100% when?
• 43:03
  It comes to yeah, when it comes to money, you have to be told
• 43:05
  like, no, you can't afford that. I got that, yeah.
• 43:09
  Yeah. People like that are so
• 43:10
  necessary in the ecosystem of the world.
• 43:12
  They are. Right.
• 43:14
  OK, well, that's a good recommendation and all of us
• 43:16
  will definitely be checking it out during the Duluth Book Club
• 43:19
  that we'll start doing every Friday night eventually.
• 43:23
  Well, thank you for that. How many books are you going to
• 43:25
  do? One a month or one a week would
• 43:27
  be really. Ambitious Okay I'm thinking
• 43:29
  we're going to start with Dulu to true Lulu 10 easy principles
• 43:32
  Manifesting your Dream Life weekly and then we'll start
• 43:36
  integrating you know the the book that you recommended as
• 43:39
  well. That would be great.
• 43:41
  Is that a good system? Do you think you?
• 43:42
  Think so. I think once a month is.
• 43:43
  I think anything more is a little ambitious for most people
• 43:46
  in their schedules. Right, we're all too busy
• 43:48
  listening to do Lulu, Ryan Liu on Spotify and rating at five
• 43:51
  stars. So yeah, we're we're just going
• 43:53
  to try to figure it out to make it natural and say everyone's
• 43:55
  routine. We're working on it.
• 43:57
  Well let's get into another tweet Lulu that you have said my
• 44:01
  Co writer did a deep deep deep deep deep deep.
• 44:04
  Deep. Deep dive on at David Maris.
• 44:08
  So we need to start here. It's a quoted tweet.
• 44:12
  His initial tweet was from 2021. David said space tourism is like
• 44:17
  burning orangutans to cook Kobe steaks.
• 44:20
  It is environmentally, environmentally sorry.
• 44:23
  Big word for Elmo. Disastrous.
• 44:24
  Just to feed the curiosity of the extremely wealthy Actually
• 44:28
  worse comma since orangutans don't explode and kill everyone
• 44:31
  at dinner. Very intense strong opinion
• 44:35
  tweet and we actually have a follow up to this tweet in 2025.
• 44:40
  Miss Katy Perry catching a stray we have.
• 44:43
  I stand by this and I'm happy to see the backlash of at Katy
• 44:46
  Perry at all trip. To say you care about the earth
• 44:50
  while going to space for a joyride or running a 400 foot
• 44:55
  yacht is hypocrisy. What did this mean, David?
• 44:59
  Yeah, so, you know, Richard Branson, billionaire, says he
• 45:03
  cares about the planet, but he started a company called Space
• 45:07
  something or other Virgin Galactic, and its stock symbol
• 45:12
  was space. And it's ridiculous because we
• 45:15
  all know what's what it looks like.
• 45:17
  And the singular experience of someone going up and saying, oh,
• 45:20
  it changed my life. They're not going to come back
• 45:22
  and change the world with that perspective.
• 45:25
  So it's really is just joyriding.
• 45:27
  Now, you could say that, by the way, about people going from
• 45:30
  here to, you know, Venice to check out the canals.
• 45:35
  You could say that. But the physics around space
• 45:38
  travel and lifting a rocket off the ground versus an airplane,
• 45:42
  it's it's not even order of magnitude difference in in
• 45:45
  carbon footprint. So yeah, what I meant by it is
• 45:48
  everyone wants to say let's save the orangutans or but here's a
• 45:53
  simple thing, let's not fly people up to space.
• 45:56
  And the reason I mentioned Katy Perry recently, because she got
• 45:59
  so much negative feedback for her ridiculous holding a flower,
• 46:03
  promoting an album or or a new release while she's up in space.
• 46:09
  And maybe, you know, again, I'm not a believer in karma, but
• 46:12
  maybe the idea that your concerts aren't selling out now,
• 46:17
  well, it's because the cultures moved on from performative
• 46:22
  ethics of, oh, I care about the planet.
• 46:24
  You don't care about the planet. If you're going to take a.
• 46:26
  Call her out. She's an amazing pop star,
• 46:30
  amazing at what she used to do. Well, I mean, she still doesn't
• 46:36
  be honest. How how many people are do you
• 46:38
  know, are like, oh, Katy Perry's in town.
• 46:42
  Oh, crickets. I mean, it's just again,
• 46:45
  amazing. Her greatest hits are probably
• 46:48
  all great, all songs you recognize and you know, at a
• 46:50
  wedding, people will stand up and and dance.
• 46:53
  But they do the same thing to Cotton eye Joe.
• 46:56
  And I don't know if I would say like, oh, I'm going to stand
• 46:59
  behind whatever band that did that.
• 47:01
  So mostly I was just saying, you know, space tourism is really
• 47:05
  bad for the planet, and you can't care for the planet and
• 47:08
  still say let's go to space. And you feel like it's justified
• 47:12
  that she got the backlash for it then?
• 47:15
  Well, I don't like to, to be fair.
• 47:18
  What if she's in a place where she needed to do said thing?
• 47:23
  Yeah, maybe her, her. Maybe her label told her to do
• 47:26
  it. Maybe she didn't have really
• 47:27
  good guidance. Someone didn't.
• 47:29
  You know, I've thought long and hard about the science around
• 47:32
  this. Maybe she she hasn't had the
• 47:34
  time to do that. She didn't.
• 47:35
  She's just like, hey, Jeff Bezos says free trip to, to and the
• 47:40
  proximity of going up with Jeff Bezos's fiance.
• 47:44
  You know what? That pays a lot of dividends to
• 47:45
  the proximity of wealth. That's not how I live my life.
• 47:49
  But you know, maybe so I don't think the backlash honestly,
• 47:55
  especially the personal attacks on her.
• 47:57
  We've all seen the memes of her at her concert, and you'll
• 48:01
  probably insert it here or something.
• 48:02
  Or dancing around. We don't have enough of a budget
• 48:05
  for that. So we're going to believe you.
• 48:07
  It's just. I think that's more
• 48:09
  embarrassing. I think your personal attacks
• 48:12
  really have no place for for anything, but you should be
• 48:16
  called out for. Well, how are you acting?
• 48:18
  You're you're a public figure. Absolutely.
• 48:21
  Would you be mad at me if I went to space?
• 48:24
  No, like as I said about the other things, I, I just wonder
• 48:27
  why you were doing it And I, I would call you I, well, actually
• 48:29
  I probably wouldn't, I would say.
• 48:31
  You have an e-mail. Well, you heard me say what I
• 48:34
  said, so you must not have believed it or you must be like,
• 48:38
  hey, wow, I really want to see the earth from space.
• 48:41
  I did A0G thing where you go on a plane and it does these arcs.
• 48:46
  So if you've ever been on a road that has a big a hill on a on a
• 48:49
  road and you feel that or on a roller coaster, you feel
• 48:52
  weightless for a second. It's super cool.
• 48:56
  It's exactly what you would think it is.
• 48:58
  It didn't change my life at all. I didn't come back and think, Oh
• 49:01
  my God, I should really try to save the like it was it's it was
• 49:06
  a joyride. A younger me did that without
• 49:08
  thinking. I wouldn't do it now.
• 49:11
  Do you feel like when you're flecked on that, do you regret
• 49:14
  that because you feel so strongly about the space
• 49:16
  tourism? I kind of regret it.
• 49:18
  I kind of so. There's you have to give
• 49:21
  yourself grace because you were in a different place, you know?
• 49:23
  I was in a different place and I won it in a in a charity
• 49:27
  auction, so I can kind of justify a little bit.
• 49:30
  And I actually didn't even win it.
• 49:31
  What happened was the person next to me thought it was funny
• 49:34
  that as it came up, raised the paddle and I was like, oh,
• 49:37
  you're going to bid on this. He's like, yeah, I'm going to
• 49:39
  get this too. And it started going up and he,
• 49:41
  Rick kept raising it. And then so after he won it,
• 49:45
  they go, oh, paddle, whatever 136 has won this thing.
• 49:49
  I go, that's my paddle. And he thought it was hilarious.
• 49:52
  He pranked Lulu. You.
• 49:53
  Yeah, but it was for charity and he's a good friend of mine.
• 49:57
  I never sat next to him again at a charity thing.
• 50:00
  But he's not getting a Dululu hat.
• 50:02
  It wasn't so expensive that it was like, Oh my gosh, it sent me
• 50:05
  back or anything. I was.
• 50:07
  It was appropriately funny. Wait, can I ask, did you ever
• 50:10
  get that Ferrari? No, no, no, no, no.
• 50:13
  It was just like a little. I ended up buying AI, bought a
• 50:15
  sports car that a much more modest sports car to get that
• 50:21
  out of my system. I ended up getting a ticket that
• 50:24
  was a really big ticket and I never drove it again after that.
• 50:28
  It wasn't by the way, it wasn't legally.
• 50:30
  They didn't take the car away from me or anything.
• 50:32
  I just was like, you know what? I don't need this.
• 50:35
  Did you know in Los Angeles you can get tickets if you don't
• 50:38
  have a front plate license plate?
• 50:41
  Actually, in New Jersey and everywhere else, I think that's
• 50:43
  true too. But a lot of car dealers don't
• 50:46
  put them on because it ruins. They think it ruins the.
• 50:48
  Aesthetic. I've heard that before that it
• 50:50
  can ruin the aesthetic of the car.
• 50:52
  Whatever you need a license plate.
• 50:53
  Come on. Right.
• 50:54
  You would think, You would think, yeah, so silly.
• 50:58
  What would you do if you had like, like let's say you kept
• 51:00
  getting tickets, like, would you pay it or would you just like
• 51:02
  start accumulating it and then like my.
• 51:04
  Gosh, no, I I would. I would.
• 51:06
  Never, by the way. I would hope that you,
• 51:08
  everything you've heard so far is that like I'm, I'm not a
• 51:11
  super justice warrior, but if you break a rule, you pay it and
• 51:16
  learn from it. Yeah.
• 51:18
  So no, no, no, I wouldn't. I would never accumulate tickets
• 51:21
  or be like, oh, the law doesn't apply to me.
• 51:24
  I think that you might disagree with the law and a lot of people
• 51:27
  do now, but they don't like do anything about it.
• 51:30
  They'll they'll create chaos, but they won't like go to a
• 51:34
  legislator and be like, hey, I think you should do this.
• 51:36
  I know it's, it feels like a lot of extra steps, but you know why
• 51:39
  I ask you that? It's because we are going to ask
• 51:42
  you a few more questions or get a little advice from you.
• 51:44
  This is our segment WWADGD, which we're changing for you.
• 51:50
  WWAD DDWADD. You know what, WW besties?
• 51:59
  We're going to play a variation of what would a delulu girl do?
• 52:01
  But we're going to have our honorary delulu dad of the day,
• 52:04
  David, who is actually a dad, give us some advice.
• 52:08
  So some of her bestie, Lulu submitted their questions,
• 52:10
  concerns, situations, problems, and they want to know what our
• 52:13
  delulu take is, our advice, what we would do, and I think it'd be
• 52:18
  really lovely to have. I will be happy to do that, but
• 52:20
  I will first preface it all with, you know, parents.
• 52:23
  I was amazed when we were leaving the hospital with our
• 52:27
  twins that they don't give you a book or anything.
• 52:29
  No one tells you like. Oh by the way, make sure.
• 52:31
  You they never they didn't give you it's a Lulu to true Lulu and
• 52:34
  easy principles main offense your dreamline.
• 52:35
  No, they don't give. You that I need to talk to that
• 52:37
  hospital. That would be at least they I'd
• 52:40
  get something out of it, no? So yeah, parents do their best.
• 52:43
  So I'm happy to answer this, but take the advice with a grain of
• 52:46
  salt. Well, I'm not a parent and you
• 52:48
  should fully take my advice, but we have a few questions here for
• 52:52
  you. So the first one is from
• 52:54
  Anonymous Bestie. How can I tell if my crush
• 52:57
  actually likes me? What do we think?
• 53:00
  You know what? You just go up and ask.
• 53:03
  You know what? This is the this is The thing is
• 53:08
  you can wonder all you want and you could be afraid for the
• 53:11
  other person to you want them to take the first step because you
• 53:15
  know what? But a lot of great love affairs
• 53:17
  that never happened are because somebody was a little too shy.
• 53:21
  It's hard to do. It takes a lot of courage.
• 53:24
  You got to be brave, Lulu. Yeah, but you could just say,
• 53:27
  listen, I feel this way about you.
• 53:30
  I don't want to freak you out or anything, and I don't want to
• 53:32
  lose our friendship, but how do you feel?
• 53:36
  They might, you know, you might hear something you don't want,
• 53:39
  but you won't live in this wonderment, so.
• 53:41
  That's true Lulu, I think OK, I famously am a big fan of just
• 53:46
  telling people how I feel. Like I really don't like to like
• 53:49
  dance around things or like play little games.
• 53:51
  So like I agree with that. But on the flip side, I guess my
• 53:54
  dulu advice would be that bestie, remember, what do we
• 53:57
  say? We don't chase, we attract.
• 54:00
  So what I usually do if I have a crushy washy on someone, Well, I
• 54:02
  guess, I guess I do tell them and I like see where it what
• 54:06
  comes out of it. But the flip side of what I do
• 54:08
  actually, we're going to pin this because that's advice for a
• 54:10
  different question. But I I'm a big fan of telling
• 54:13
  people how you feel to. Tell you there are lots of
• 54:16
  people who will give advice of how to manipulate people into
• 54:20
  into liking you. You can do negative things where
• 54:23
  you like make a half joke of putting them down and the rest,
• 54:27
  and those things can be effective to getting someone to
• 54:31
  do something that you that that you want maybe, But that's like
• 54:35
  it's not cool. It's like, really?
• 54:36
  Like, is that how you want them to like you?
• 54:38
  Because you've tricked them? Because they won't last?
• 54:41
  So we're not playing no games. It's doing any well.
• 54:44
  We're not playing no games. That would mean you are playing
• 54:46
  games. But let's be here.
• 54:48
  We're not playing games because if you really care about
• 54:51
  somebody, you're wasting their time with that.
• 54:53
  Just be honest. OK, that's good.
• 54:56
  That's good. That's dad you wanted dad
• 54:58
  advice. That is solid dad advice.
• 55:00
  That is very solid Dad advice. Actually, I'm going to I'm going
• 55:04
  to hold on to that one. OK, So we have another question
• 55:07
  here similar, similarly, how do I approach someone I'm
• 55:10
  interested in at the bar? David, what would you do?
• 55:17
  I would let them approach me. Hey.
• 55:20
  So, yeah, you just, you could walk up to somebody and just go
• 55:24
  high and walk by and order your drink.
• 55:27
  That high creates a mystery, Yeah.
• 55:29
  I love a little breadcrumbie. Yeah, you could be like give
• 55:32
  them a compliment if if you feel the compliment.
• 55:35
  I'm not saying make up a compliment, but like great
• 55:37
  shirt. It doesn't have to be too
• 55:40
  forward, right. Like that's creepy and so a well
• 55:44
  meant compliment. Everyone likes that.
• 55:47
  Who doesn't like that? So what?
• 55:49
  About what? About like asking a question?
• 55:51
  Do you think that would be good? Yeah, you want to know something
• 55:53
  about them so. OK, what about what do I ask?
• 55:57
  OK, if I was to purchase someone at the bar, tell me if you think
• 55:59
  this is good or not. OK, if I was to approach someone
• 56:01
  at the bar, I was interested in them.
• 56:02
  I would go up to them and be like, hi, nice shirt.
• 56:06
  How do you feel about Katy Perry going to space for 11 minutes
• 56:08
  and then showing a little easy on the screen?
• 56:09
  What would what would that be good?
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  This is the look you'd probably get fine and then they'd walk
• 56:17
  away. David, I was coming up to you at
• 56:19
  the bar. You would have.
• 56:20
  Had a very no, I definitely would have.
• 56:21
  I would have had a whole thing. But it's my days of going to
• 56:24
  bars are long over. I've been married for 30 years,
• 56:27
  so no, I'm not going to that. I'd be like, wow, you've been
• 56:30
  reading my tweets. That's creepy.
• 56:31
  That's strange. I'd run the other way or
• 56:33
  something. Yeah, one might think it's very
• 56:35
  creepy to do a deep dive on the tweets.
• 56:37
  You know, not to do a deep dive on the Creek on the tweets, but
• 56:40
  at a bar to have like a file on somebody.
• 56:43
  Yeah, that's. Well, it's a different time.
• 56:45
  It's a different time, David. Okay, well, I guess what I
• 56:48
  actually do if I'm interested in someone, if I'm like at a club
• 56:51
  or a bar, I usually completely ignore them, don't even look at
• 56:54
  them, don't look in their direction.
• 56:55
  And in my head I just repeat over and over again, please talk
• 56:57
  to me, please talk to me, please talk to me.
• 56:59
  And I will say it has worked. I want to say maybe 100% of the
• 57:02
  time. It could be because I'm a cutie
• 57:04
  patootie to be honest, but I also think that I'm manifesting
• 57:08
  them to. Do you have a sign that says
• 57:10
  talk to me or? Something I guess it's just like
• 57:12
  the dimples in the face and it's just like, I don't know, I'm
• 57:15
  like super cute or whatever. So like they're talking to me.
• 57:17
  Or it could be the manifestation thing.
• 57:19
  Yeah, I think it's better to just be direct, look at them and
• 57:22
  be like hi and then keep talking to your friends.
• 57:24
  But I'm shy, Lulu. All right.
• 57:26
  Well, then you'd have to deal with what you have.
• 57:28
  Well they're going to come up to me either way, period.
• 57:31
  OK so we have another one. How do I ghost someone I was
• 57:35
  talking to because my ex came back?
• 57:39
  Don't, I mean, ghosting is, is something I'm glad I'd never
• 57:42
  grew up with that in, in in at all because that is
• 57:47
  psychologically so damaging. And I spoke to someone recently
• 57:51
  at the event that we were at, a young woman who lives in New
• 57:55
  York, and she says it's super common.
• 57:57
  She's on the dating apps. It happens all the time.
• 57:59
  I'm not going to say who so so. I think I talked to her too.
• 58:05
  So she and her colleague are on the dating apps and they've gone
• 58:10
  on dates and more than one date, and then the person just stops
• 58:13
  responding. Some of them actually turned out
• 58:15
  to be married. So, yeah, do I think that the
• 58:19
  culture is something that really messed up of how difficult is it
• 58:23
  to say, hey, I really enjoyed our couple dates?
• 58:26
  I want to tell you my ex and I are getting back together.
• 58:30
  Really sorry if that comes as a disappointment, but that's a
• 58:33
  maturity that's like, oh, OK. It gives the person closure on
• 58:37
  OK, this is it's not that they hate me.
• 58:39
  It's not that I said something wrong.
• 58:42
  It's that OK? Well, they just, they, they want
• 58:45
  to try it again with someone, they layer, they they love.
• 58:48
  OK, that makes sense. Yes, It's mature, it's
• 58:52
  communicating and it's letting them know that it's not even
• 58:54
  personal to them. So it's like letting them down
• 58:56
  easy. It's being very gentle about it.
• 58:58
  I think the only OK time to go someone is if you you're
• 59:01
  concerned for your safety. Right in there.
• 59:04
  I think for me, what I would do is I would just like block them
• 59:08
  from viewing my stories and then live my life and then just like
• 59:12
  make myself less desirable to them and then they'll like
• 59:15
  naturally like not want to. Would you still let them be on
• 59:17
  passes on your subscriptions? Of course, if they were paying
• 59:21
  the very low price of 1111 a month to be a part of my passes,
• 59:25
  they are absolutely welcome on passes which you get unlimited
• 59:28
  free DMS with me as well. All right, so there you go.
• 59:33
  That was a good plug. OK, OK, we have one more bestie
• 59:38
  situation here. This one is from a Brianna, She
• 59:41
  asked. How do I find out if the guy I'm
• 59:43
  talking to secretly has a kid? Well, that's actually what I was
• 59:48
  telling you about of the these young women who were at this
• 59:51
  event we were at who someone has married, they had children.
• 59:54
  I was like, wow, did you blow them up?
• 59:56
  Did you go to their spouse? And they're like, no, because I
• 59:59
  was afraid something, you know, the person could lose it and
• 1:00:02
  then they could. Retaliate.
• 1:00:03
  Yeah, retaliate in, in and so, which feels bad to me because I
• 1:00:08
  think that it would be great for someone to get their, you know,
• 1:00:11
  just desserts, but I can also understand their, their real
• 1:00:14
  concerns. Right.
• 1:00:15
  It's a safety thing as well. You know, it's really hard if
• 1:00:17
  someone wants to hide information from somebody to you
• 1:00:21
  can't show up at their house. But every time that I know
• 1:00:24
  someone who dated someone, this is an older person who dated
• 1:00:29
  someone for three or four months and turns out they had a whole
• 1:00:32
  nother family, married, whatever.
• 1:00:35
  And she had asked a friend. She's like the friend had asked
• 1:00:38
  her, so tell me about your new boyfriend.
• 1:00:41
  He goes, oh, he might be the one, might be someone that I
• 1:00:43
  marry. And I said, oh, really?
• 1:00:45
  Yeah. The only negative is that he
• 1:00:46
  travels a lot. No, really.
• 1:00:49
  Yeah, he's unavailable because he's traveling a lot.
• 1:00:51
  And without a pause, her friend was like, Are you sure he's not
• 1:00:54
  married? It had never occurred to her to
• 1:00:56
  check that, so her friend looked it up.
• 1:00:59
  I don't know how found out he was married and that that ended.
• 1:01:04
  I don't know how you'd find out about children, but yeah, that's
• 1:01:08
  if you probably not sure and you're wondering about it's
• 1:01:10
  probably not the person for you. OK that's fair.
• 1:01:13
  Honestly yes if it feels shady Lulu like that I think you're
• 1:01:16
  right. Probably.
• 1:01:17
  Probably something to like reflect on that person and their
• 1:01:20
  character in general. I guess my advice would be get
• 1:01:23
  my Co writer to do a deep dive on this person and get the
• 1:01:26
  answer for it and we'll write into the show.
• 1:01:29
  Well, thank you. That was WWADDDWWADD.
• 1:01:34
  And you know what? That was really good delulu
• 1:01:36
  advice that you gave. And not even delulu advice, just
• 1:01:38
  advice in general. Obviously with the state of the
• 1:01:40
  world right now, the country and everything that we have going
• 1:01:42
  on, it is chaotic. There's a lot of unrest.
• 1:01:46
  Do you have any advice for any bestie Lulu's who might be
• 1:01:49
  listening, who might need reassurance, or any affirmations
• 1:01:52
  or anything that you might want to say to anyone?
• 1:01:55
  So it doesn't feel that way, but we are the safest time we've
• 1:01:58
  ever been in. So if you look through history,
• 1:02:01
  so we're actually really, we're really safe now year to year, it
• 1:02:04
  fluctuates a little bit and that doesn't help with anxiety,
• 1:02:07
  right? Because the news feeds you what
• 1:02:10
  they want you to hear. And I think that's been great
• 1:02:13
  for the last few years. We, we start to come to
• 1:02:15
  understand algorithms a little better that oh, if you, if
• 1:02:18
  you're worried about things, you watch news more often, you watch
• 1:02:21
  news more often, you watch more commercials.
• 1:02:23
  OK, great. Just realize that they want you
• 1:02:26
  to think that. But I've seen so many good
• 1:02:29
  things happen. I saw it on on the way here.
• 1:02:34
  I was in line for a flight and a woman walked up behind me and
• 1:02:38
  said, my flight leaves in a few minutes.
• 1:02:40
  Can I cut in front of you? This is before the TSA.
• 1:02:42
  She's probably going to miss her flight anyway.
• 1:02:44
  But I was like, yeah, no problem.
• 1:02:46
  There were 30 people that all said sure, no problem.
• 1:02:49
  And. That's really nice.
• 1:02:51
  And you just go, OK, that's not, you know, Nobel Peace Prize
• 1:02:55
  type, like charity. It won't be reported on to Lulu
• 1:02:58
  Daily. Everyone did it without a pause.
• 1:03:00
  No one was arguing. No one said, well, how much
• 1:03:03
  longer do you have or whatever. And so the world is actually a
• 1:03:06
  very kind place when it doesn't feel that way.
• 1:03:10
  I really think that people need to either get therapy or get
• 1:03:13
  some sort of resource to talk to someone about.
• 1:03:16
  Even if it's a friend, great. But if you want professional
• 1:03:20
  like, hey, tools to go through these things, you're really
• 1:03:23
  better off talking to someone who's been trained in that, who
• 1:03:26
  can help you realize like, OK, and by the way, you may be going
• 1:03:29
  through trauma yourself. That really is bad.
• 1:03:32
  And you do need someone to talk to.
• 1:03:34
  It's not that affordable. It's, it's not that easy for
• 1:03:38
  everyone, and I understand that. But yeah, you asked what advice
• 1:03:41
  I'd give. I'd say find somebody that can
• 1:03:43
  help you navigate your anxiety about things.
• 1:03:46
  Yeah, and then also being able to talk about is so healing as
• 1:03:49
  well. Like honestly, I know for me,
• 1:03:51
  when I'm feeling anxious, if I'm able to like, you know, chitchat
• 1:03:54
  or rant about it, it does really make me feel better.
• 1:03:58
  And you see my therapist soon. Well, it's funny because in
• 1:04:01
  investing it's a lot of times you'll have things completely
• 1:04:04
  wrong and things will be going against you.
• 1:04:06
  And if you don't have a community to talk to of people
• 1:04:09
  who've traded in stocks or whatever, you feel really alone,
• 1:04:12
  like. And so calling friends who are
• 1:04:14
  trading similar stocks and you feel like, gosh, guess what?
• 1:04:17
  I was down this much this month. And they go, OK, but you've been
• 1:04:20
  up before. You know this happens, the
• 1:04:22
  reassurance. It's nice to have that
• 1:04:24
  community. And a lot of people don't have
• 1:04:26
  that. So, you know, trying to find
• 1:04:28
  that out is is actually a lot is is kind of the a great step.
• 1:04:32
  I have that, thankfully, and I'm really grateful for it because I
• 1:04:35
  am a member of Wall Street Beats Passes and having that community
• 1:04:40
  really reassures me, especially when I'm feeling anxious about
• 1:04:43
  my stock Lulu's. Yeah, but like I said, whether
• 1:04:45
  it's Wall Street beats or someone else, but yeah, the
• 1:04:49
  news, the news could be really upsetting.
• 1:04:52
  Just remember, you're not in danger right now.
• 1:04:55
  And so I think that's people, I don't want to say they overreact
• 1:04:59
  because they're really reacting, but you just have to find ways
• 1:05:02
  to to deal with it. And I think professionals are
• 1:05:04
  really good at it. Well, thank you.
• 1:05:06
  That was really reassuring. Honestly, especially knowing
• 1:05:08
  that it's, it's not as bad as it seems or it feels because I feel
• 1:05:12
  like it's so easy to catastrophize and have things
• 1:05:15
  been sensationalized and that's actually really, really, really
• 1:05:18
  assuring. Well, because you remember,
• 1:05:21
  people have been arguing about politics and different countries
• 1:05:26
  and all sorts of these same arguments were going on 100
• 1:05:29
  years ago. So it's not as though we've
• 1:05:32
  invented new things to worry about other than space travel.
• 1:05:35
  Well, you know what? I'm so happy that you were here
• 1:05:38
  and you're here for a very special episode.
• 1:05:40
  This episode with David Maris of Wall Street Beats is actually
• 1:05:43
  our pride episode cuz you are a really big ally.
• 1:05:49
  I am. OK, good, because our producer
• 1:05:51
  is homophobic. That's horrible to say.
• 1:05:54
  I know that he's not you. You would never be around
• 1:05:57
  somebody who who was, so let's not say that about.
• 1:06:01
  When they're threatening me, I am.
• 1:06:04
  They're just threatening you for you, not because of not because
• 1:06:07
  of any other reason. OK, fair enough.
• 1:06:10
  Well, we did a lot of research on you and you've been so
• 1:06:15
  exactly, exactly what you've been saying this entire time
• 1:06:18
  about having empathy. And you know, you had tweeted
• 1:06:20
  before about like being really empathetic towards the LGBTQ
• 1:06:24
  community, the queer community. And that's why we wanted you to
• 1:06:27
  be our Pride guest. Oh well, I appreciate that.
• 1:06:30
  I didn't know that ahead of time.
• 1:06:31
  But no, I think that people need to know that there are allies
• 1:06:35
  that that are outside of maybe their circle to know that people
• 1:06:42
  love who they love. And you can disagree on certain
• 1:06:46
  aspects, but you can't really, how can you disagree with that?
• 1:06:50
  And so. I don't know, Brett.
• 1:06:52
  How can you? No, I mean, it's a, it's AI have
• 1:06:57
  people in my in my life that that are lesbian, that are gay
• 1:07:03
  people in my family. And I think that they're not
• 1:07:07
  defined by that, but they shouldn't be attacked for it,
• 1:07:11
  right? And, and I think that people,
• 1:07:14
  they need to know, I will say, I think many in the straight
• 1:07:17
  community don't know how to be allies.
• 1:07:19
  They don't know, hey, what does it mean to be an ally?
• 1:07:23
  And I think like during pride month to send out a tweet that
• 1:07:25
  says, by the way, I'm an ally. They, they don't think that
• 1:07:29
  that's going to do anything. So they're like, and will people
• 1:07:32
  think I'm just doing it because it, you know, shows us, no, it
• 1:07:36
  really means stuff to people. Like it really neat means a lot.
• 1:07:41
  And so no, I'm, I'm, I'm surprised that you found that.
• 1:07:43
  But it's not that surprising because I put it on LinkedIn and
• 1:07:46
  I put it on Twitter. I don't think that people should
• 1:07:51
  be discriminated against for for who they love at all.
• 1:07:55
  That post was right there in between the Katy Perry shade
• 1:07:58
  tweets. Yeah.
• 1:07:59
  Yeah, but if I I would, I think that's the way more important to
• 1:08:03
  tweet. Right, they could both exist,
• 1:08:05
  and they both do exist. Well, the LinkedIn one, I would
• 1:08:08
  suggest people to go to the LinkedIn one.
• 1:08:11
  It's a little bit longer, but it really does explain that people
• 1:08:15
  live alone and they live afraid and it's the number one reason
• 1:08:19
  for teen homelessness. There are lots of charities and
• 1:08:24
  so while people think of, oh, I'm going to do this for
• 1:08:26
  charity, if they really want to be an ally, give to the Trevor
• 1:08:30
  Project, give to, you know, there's, there's one that does
• 1:08:35
  hiking for out, you know, for people who are out who want to
• 1:08:37
  be outside hiking, but they are afraid because they, they
• 1:08:43
  perceive the outdoors community as not being helpful to LGBTQ.
• 1:08:49
  So there's lots of charities that you can actually do
• 1:08:51
  something, but if you don't have the money to do that or you
• 1:08:54
  don't, you know, just tweet something, say something, wear a
• 1:08:58
  shirt that says Ally. Appear on a queer podcast.
• 1:09:01
  Yeah, well, you don't say that this is a queer podcast, but I'm
• 1:09:05
  happy to be here because of you. But I also think like, I'm glad
• 1:09:10
  you brought it up because there are there are lots of people who
• 1:09:12
  suffer who aren't in cities or in communities that support gay
• 1:09:17
  rights. Thank you.
• 1:09:19
  Like as someone who's also a really big ally to the queer
• 1:09:22
  community, it probably means a lot to them for sure.
• 1:09:25
  Now, are you an ally to the straight community?
• 1:09:33
  Brett is lying. Brett is a liar.
• 1:09:37
  He's actually threatening me right now.
• 1:09:40
  You can't hear it because he doesn't have a mic and he's off
• 1:09:42
  camera. But of course, I'm an ally to
• 1:09:45
  every community out there, especially a marginalized
• 1:09:48
  community such as the straight community.
• 1:09:52
  I don't know if the straight community really needs more
• 1:09:55
  allies, but I agree that it's, you know, pride month's not
• 1:09:58
  about making straight people uncomfortable.
• 1:10:02
  It's about making people who feel uncomfortable more
• 1:10:06
  comfortable making sure that people can exist and not have to
• 1:10:10
  live in fear. You know, I went to the Pulse
• 1:10:15
  nightclub last month to see the tributes that are there in
• 1:10:19
  Florida, to see the tributes that are there.
• 1:10:21
  And it's sad because there were plans to build a big memorial,
• 1:10:26
  $20 million was raised and it's all been wasted.
• 1:10:29
  They, I think, I think they've declared bankruptcy and
• 1:10:33
  everyone. And so that, that, by the way,
• 1:10:37
  people who donated money then feel less, I don't want to say
• 1:10:40
  they feel less of an ally, but they feel like, hey, I, I wanted
• 1:10:43
  a tribute because they actually, the people who donated said, I
• 1:10:46
  want to give to a memorial here because I want people to know I
• 1:10:50
  stand for people having their rights to have a good time and
• 1:10:55
  to not live in fear. And to exist.
• 1:10:56
  And, and so it's, it's a kind of decrepit memorial at this point
• 1:11:01
  because it was never built. It's just a kind of, but a lot
• 1:11:05
  of politicians went there, gave big speeches saying that, oh,
• 1:11:09
  they stand for this and they stand for that.
• 1:11:11
  But I would hope that at one, at one point someone makes that
• 1:11:14
  memorial because it's, it's really sad.
• 1:11:17
  But there are lots of ways to be an ally.
• 1:11:20
  We really appreciate that. Happy prime month, David.
• 1:11:24
  Thanks. Your episode's airing in July.
• 1:11:27
  So great. David, while we're here, I feel
• 1:11:30
  like we have talked so much and I've gone to know you so well.
• 1:11:33
  And I'm sure every bestie, Lulu, who is intently listening right
• 1:11:37
  now has gone to know you really well.
• 1:11:39
  I want to play a little game with you.
• 1:11:40
  We're going to try to guess your Zodiac sign.
• 1:11:43
  So before we play, do you know your Zodiac sign?
• 1:11:45
  Yes, I do. Do you OK?
• 1:11:47
  Do you agree with your Zodiac sign based on what you know
• 1:11:49
  about it? So at the start of the episode I
• 1:11:51
  explained as a very proud Catholic, I of course know my
• 1:11:56
  not as a Catholic. I know my Zodiac side.
• 1:11:58
  I don't believe that a Zodiac sign is going to affect and I
• 1:12:01
  don't think that 112th of the population all share the same
• 1:12:05
  personality traits because they were born in a certain time.
• 1:12:08
  Just as I'm super happy to accept your citrulline.
• 1:12:11
  Is that right? Or.
• 1:12:12
  Citrine. Oh, I thought it was citrulline
• 1:12:14
  here, no. Yeah, I need that back now
• 1:12:17
  actually. You know, I don't I don't
• 1:12:19
  believe in magic and I don't believe in in that.
• 1:12:22
  Do I think it's super entertaining and it's fun to do?
• 1:12:24
  Absolutely. Do I know my Zodiac sign?
• 1:12:26
  Yes. Do I agree that wow, lots of
• 1:12:28
  that sounds like me. I think a lot of people would
• 1:12:30
  find whatever their Zodiac sign were would would agree, but yes
• 1:12:34
  I do. Well, OK, so yes, David does
• 1:12:37
  know his Zodiac sign. Based.
• 1:12:40
  On everything that you said, I'm going to take a guess.
• 1:12:43
  Lulu and Bestie, Lulu's listening at home.
• 1:12:45
  I want you to guess, too. We obviously know a lot about
• 1:12:47
  David. He has a lot of integrity.
• 1:12:50
  He's a hard worker. He stands on business.
• 1:12:53
  Period. OK, let's see.
• 1:12:56
  I feel like the entire time we were talking, I was, I was like
• 1:13:00
  thinking about what you would be.
• 1:13:01
  My first guess is I'm just going to go with it.
• 1:13:03
  Besties, Are you ready? You make your guess. 321, You
• 1:13:05
  made your guess. OK.
• 1:13:06
  I think you are a Capricorn, am I right?
• 1:13:10
  No. OK, Bret's guessing.
• 1:13:15
  What do we have, Brett? Scorpio.
• 1:13:20
  Well, OK, more about. David more about David Brett
• 1:13:24
  just guessed that David is a Scorpio, which is wrong.
• 1:13:27
  David is a gluttonous piece of shit.
• 1:13:32
  That's a that's a call back to a previous episode.
• 1:13:34
  Hi Paige. OK, not a Scorpio, not a
• 1:13:37
  Capricorn. No.
• 1:13:39
  Virgo. So.
• 1:13:42
  Yes. No.
• 1:13:44
  OK, OK. I don't know then.
• 1:13:47
  Sagittarius. I would never have guessed.
• 1:13:50
  Oh, my gosh. OK, You know, a little a little
• 1:13:53
  more about astrology. Yes.
• 1:13:55
  I I don't know. I wouldn't have guessed that.
• 1:13:57
  Bestie. Did you guess right?
• 1:13:58
  The best astrological sign there is other than maybe Aquarius,
• 1:14:02
  but I'd say Sagittarius #1. How do we feel about Virgos?
• 1:14:07
  I don't know enough to know about about Virgos.
• 1:14:09
  What month is that? That's September and August.
• 1:14:14
  When? In September.
• 1:14:16
  Early September. Late August.
• 1:14:18
  Oh no, then I pass on the Virgo. Oh, OK.
• 1:14:21
  Well, Virgos, pass on you. Sorry, see you Virgos.
• 1:14:24
  Don't come to Wall Street beats Virgos.
• 1:14:26
  I was, I was going to ask you to guess my Zodiac sign, but I
• 1:14:29
  guess, I guess I gave it away. You don't know enough about
• 1:14:32
  Zodiac signs to have a guess. Would you have been able to
• 1:14:34
  guess, do you think? No, no, no, I don't.
• 1:14:36
  I don't know enough. OK, guess Brett's 321 go.
• 1:14:39
  Gemini. Yes, a Gemini man.
• 1:14:43
  Is he really? No, he's a Scorpio, but that was
• 1:14:47
  a really good guess. Shout out to my Geminis.
• 1:14:49
  We're filming this during Gemini.
• 1:14:50
  Because he seems balanced and pretty straightforward.
• 1:14:54
  That's Libra. All right.
• 1:14:57
  Sorry, Libra. He could be Libra.
• 1:15:00
  Libras are beautiful and look at Brett.
• 1:15:03
  Oh yeah, no, you're right, Geminis are real pains.
• 1:15:05
  Oh, you said it on me. I got bestie feedback and we
• 1:15:09
  decided the Gemini slander should be out.
• 1:15:12
  But that was that was David said it, not me.
• 1:15:15
  OK, well, maybe maybe that could have been what we're going to go
• 1:15:19
  into next. We're going to ask you your most
• 1:15:20
  delulu take. We talked about a little bit
• 1:15:22
  about the delulu here. Do you have anything that you
• 1:15:25
  feel is like it's completely delusional, could be silly, fun,
• 1:15:27
  controversial, serious. What are you thinking?
• 1:15:30
  What do you think? Lulu's.
• 1:15:32
  I have lots of those thoughts every day.
• 1:15:34
  I try to keep them pretty close so that people don't think I'm
• 1:15:37
  delulu. Well, we want to hear it here on
• 1:15:39
  Delulu. OK.
• 1:15:40
  So car rentals, absolutely the worst thing people have to go
• 1:15:46
  through on a regular basis. We should not normalize that.
• 1:15:50
  You sign up for a car, you rent the car, you do everything.
• 1:15:54
  And by the way, it's like applying for a job in the space
• 1:15:58
  station or something. You have to fill out all this
• 1:16:00
  sort of stuff. You show up, you still have to
• 1:16:02
  do it again. And whatever car you picked out
• 1:16:04
  ahead of time, they don't have. So you might as well, they might
• 1:16:08
  as well just say a random car. And so this happened to me over
• 1:16:12
  the weekend. And so I said, listen, OK, I
• 1:16:16
  shouldn't say which because they may end up being a sponsor of
• 1:16:18
  yours, but I'll say, I'll say one of the major car rental
• 1:16:22
  places. I like all of them.
• 1:16:24
  And they say they go, yeah, sorry, we don't have the one you
• 1:16:27
  signed up for. I said, but I signed up for it
• 1:16:29
  and I prepaid for it. OK, sorry.
• 1:16:32
  But I'm in the president's circle.
• 1:16:34
  Like I practically know the president.
• 1:16:35
  You gave me the president's circle.
• 1:16:37
  And they go, yeah, sorry. So.
• 1:16:38
  Did you tell them you're David Mayer is a wall?
• 1:16:40
  Street that none of that helped in fact, it may have hurt, but
• 1:16:43
  then you. Should have said you were Ryan
• 1:16:45
  Lew with the Lulu. I said that would have unlocked
• 1:16:47
  at all. Yeah, you would have gone the
• 1:16:49
  entire car. So I said, OK, can you just
• 1:16:51
  drive me to 6th? 6th is a European one that's
• 1:16:56
  breaking into the US. They're amazing.
• 1:16:57
  They don't sponsor me. I'm saying that just because
• 1:17:00
  they deserve the positive energy.
• 1:17:02
  Every time I've rented from them, the car I pick is the car
• 1:17:05
  I get. That's all I want out of a car
• 1:17:07
  rental place. So I said, could you just drive
• 1:17:09
  me there? They're like, no, no, we're
• 1:17:10
  going to get you a car. An hour later they get me a car
• 1:17:13
  that I didn't ask for. And I drove away.
• 1:17:15
  Sad I. Don't think it was a delulu take
• 1:17:17
  at all. It is a fault, faulty system.
• 1:17:20
  I think the president should ban them from being able to rent
• 1:17:23
  cars. How's that for delusional?
• 1:17:25
  OK, I actually, no, I stand on that.
• 1:17:28
  I stand on that really hard. You have a vendetta against this
• 1:17:32
  car rental. I really do.
• 1:17:33
  I tweeted about it too. I was like, look, you guys are
• 1:17:35
  really bad about it. It's like you're you're
• 1:17:37
  horrible, by the way. My Co writer is watching this
• 1:17:40
  right now and he's like yes he did tweet about this.
• 1:17:42
  Yeah, and it's the same thing as going to get blood like at a lab
• 1:17:46
  company. There are only really two major
• 1:17:48
  ones. It's the same thing.
• 1:17:49
  Miserable. In this day and age, you
• 1:17:51
  shouldn't make things. Miserable for customers. 100% OK
• 1:17:55
  not delulu. I feel like that was that was
• 1:17:57
  super. All right, you're right.
• 1:17:58
  It's a man of the people, kind of.
• 1:17:59
  Absolutely. Give me something juicy, delulu.
• 1:18:03
  Licorice is is ridiculous. Oh.
• 1:18:05
  Not the licorice stray. We got licorice in the kitchen.
• 1:18:10
  Get rid of it. It's disgusting.
• 1:18:11
  It's like eating plastic. They're going to find out that
• 1:18:13
  it's like 80% plastic one day. Sorry Twizzlers, but it's gross.
• 1:18:18
  Anyone who gets that at A at a movie Like have you ever had
• 1:18:22
  popcorn? Interesting.
• 1:18:23
  You know what? I saw someone today eating
• 1:18:25
  Twizzlers. I saw someone today eating a
• 1:18:27
  licorice and they look like they enjoyed it quite a bit.
• 1:18:30
  They just have no joy in their life.
• 1:18:31
  So they they grew up without joy and they're like, whoa,
• 1:18:34
  licorice. Great.
• 1:18:36
  It's like, OK, have you tried pizza?
• 1:18:38
  Like there's lots of other things you could be eating to
• 1:18:40
  eat. Licorice is just a waste of
• 1:18:43
  time, energy, calories. It's.
• 1:18:45
  You know what, I didn't really want to get into it, but now
• 1:18:47
  that you brought it up, so this individual who can eat the
• 1:18:50
  licorice, I was like in my head I was like, bro, that's fucking
• 1:18:53
  plastic, right? I was like, why don't you try
• 1:18:55
  something healthy, an alternative like mushroom snacks
• 1:18:57
  or something? And then they were like, they
• 1:19:00
  were so against it. It was crazy.
• 1:19:01
  There is no one. So.
• 1:19:03
  So think of something that you enjoy having.
• 1:19:05
  OK. And then you finished it.
• 1:19:07
  And so I was like, hey, do you want another?
• 1:19:08
  You're going to be like, yes, yeah.
• 1:19:10
  Cupcake. Yes.
• 1:19:12
  Yo, pretty much anything. OK.
• 1:19:14
  Have you ever seen someone like double down on licorice?
• 1:19:17
  You know what this person did? It was shocking it.
• 1:19:21
  Was shocking well how? Miserable.
• 1:19:22
  Do you think they are? They grew up without heat or
• 1:19:26
  something like there's no, they have to be like cave dweller,
• 1:19:30
  Yeah. Oh my God, yes, absolutely.
• 1:19:32
  Oh my God, I'm going to remember that.
• 1:19:34
  Thank you. I feel, I feel vindicated now.
• 1:19:36
  Yeah, and by the way, anyone watching who works for a
• 1:19:38
  licorice or a candy company, they're like, oh, we're going to
• 1:19:41
  win them over by sending me licorice.
• 1:19:42
  Seriously, don't. I don't.
• 1:19:44
  I don't like it. I don't think it should exist.
• 1:19:46
  No licorice PR to David Maris, please.
• 1:19:49
  No. OK, that OK then You know what I
• 1:19:52
  will say my delulu take is I will stand by licorice because I
• 1:19:56
  would welcome a sponsorship. Seriously.
• 1:19:58
  Have some The whole thing, this whole episode is about ethics.
• 1:20:01
  OK. Please have some ethics against
• 1:20:04
  licorice. My is my ethics being pressured
• 1:20:07
  into not liking liquor? The number one licorice company
• 1:20:09
  probably makes no money anyway because no one likes it that
• 1:20:12
  much. So, you know, just be like pro
• 1:20:14
  chocolate. As someone who has stood up
• 1:20:17
  against big pharma, I will not let you bully me into not liking
• 1:20:22
  licorice. I'm a whistleblower.
• 1:20:24
  I'm whistleblowing on licorice. OK, well we'll see about that.
• 1:20:29
  OK, well, you know what, we're going to get into some to you
• 1:20:30
  Lulu. Now that you're talking about
• 1:20:32
  whistleblowing, I have some some potential whistleblowers for you
• 1:20:35
  and we're going to talk about the hot Goss.
• 1:20:37
  So you are a part of Wall Street beats.
• 1:20:40
  It's you and 9 under there, nine other individuals a part of Wall
• 1:20:44
  Street beats giving advice, insights on the stocks.
• 1:20:48
  We're going to talk about that dynamic.
• 1:20:50
  We're going to get into all the T Lulu.
• 1:20:51
  Do you know what the T Lulu is? I don't, but I'm already
• 1:20:54
  uncomfortable starting to sweat on the idea that I'm going to
• 1:20:57
  have to talk about my colleagues well.
• 1:20:59
  You know what, David? We won't make this an
• 1:21:01
  uncomfortable experience for you.
• 1:21:02
  We are not going to ask you to name any names, but can you name
• 1:21:06
  the person that you like working with the least on Wall Street?
• 1:21:09
  Absolutely. Yes, let's hear it.
• 1:21:12
  No, because they'll know who it is, but absolutely not.
• 1:21:17
  I'm not going to go into that. Everyone who works with more
• 1:21:20
  than one person and sometimes with, if you work with one
• 1:21:23
  person like you and Brett, you may have somebody that you don't
• 1:21:27
  you don't really like that much. There's mine is Brett.
• 1:21:30
  I mean, it's pretty clear there's no, there's no benefit
• 1:21:34
  of like calling that out now because maybe like I said, maybe
• 1:21:38
  they're going through something, maybe they grew up in a in a
• 1:21:41
  dysfunctional area. I don't.
• 1:21:43
  Know maybe they grew up without heat.
• 1:21:44
  Yeah, maybe they're licorice lovers and they're just
• 1:21:47
  miserable all the time. Perhaps they are OK I.
• 1:21:50
  I think legitimately they're they're one or two that don't
• 1:21:53
  pull their weight. And the key is to to find out
• 1:21:58
  are they aware of that and can you motivate them to do?
• 1:22:00
  That would you communicate with them about this?
• 1:22:02
  Yeah, you have to. You have to have.
• 1:22:04
  You done it. Yeah, as a business you have to
• 1:22:05
  say, hey, listen, this is what's expected of you.
• 1:22:07
  One said, look, I'm just not going to do that.
• 1:22:09
  I can't do that. And so you go, OK, well, I'm
• 1:22:11
  going to make accommodations for that because they explain why.
• 1:22:15
  Oh, OK. And you feel like it's fair for
• 1:22:16
  you to make accommodations then? Yeah, I, I think you have to.
• 1:22:19
  You just have to. I know I shouldn't say you have
• 1:22:21
  to. In certain circumstances, you
• 1:22:23
  should. Right.
• 1:22:25
  So OK, but you're not naming any names.
• 1:22:27
  No, absolutely not. OK, but do you generally enjoy
• 1:22:30
  working with the people you work with?
• 1:22:31
  Yeah, the team's great, the team's great.
• 1:22:33
  And so we we all enjoy each other.
• 1:22:35
  OK, I have another T Lulu question for you.
• 1:22:38
  Who do you think should be the next celebrity sent to space?
• 1:22:43
  Given that, that's hard to say because.
• 1:22:46
  Would you send me to space? No, because there's a chance you
• 1:22:50
  wouldn't come back like these, these things.
• 1:22:52
  It's not. So people worry about flying on
• 1:22:54
  planes. Planes are really, really safe.
• 1:22:57
  How long have we been sending people into space to look
• 1:23:00
  around? Not that often.
• 1:23:02
  So I wouldn't wish that on somebody because I think there's
• 1:23:05
  a chance that it blows. Up but I saw Katy Perry do it so
• 1:23:10
  I feel like I could do it too. Oh, you definitely could do it.
• 1:23:13
  Like there's no, there's, there's not.
• 1:23:15
  They're not astronauts, They're not trained to do it.
• 1:23:18
  It's not physically difficult other than like nausea and and
• 1:23:21
  stuff. And so yeah, no, you could
• 1:23:24
  definitely do it if you really wanted to do it.
• 1:23:26
  I'd be like, yeah, go for it. I think it's we have like.
• 1:23:28
  A girls trip coming up soon, my friend Mrs. Bezos was just like,
• 1:23:31
  do you want to like go up? And I was like, yeah, sure, why
• 1:23:34
  not? I wouldn't do it but.
• 1:23:35
  You wouldn't go. I wouldn't go if you paid me
• 1:23:38
  $1,000,000 to go to space. What about 4.6 billion?
• 1:23:41
  No, I wouldn't do that. I think my family might throw me
• 1:23:44
  on the on and say, listen, you're doing that.
• 1:23:46
  But no, I wouldn't do it. OK.
• 1:23:49
  I love this world and I love this life, so risking it
• 1:23:53
  unnecessarily is a really bad idea in my view.
• 1:23:55
  What do you like about the world?
• 1:23:58
  Oh my gosh, so many things. Like, I'm amazed, and I know a
• 1:24:04
  lot of your viewers are going to be like, this is so silly.
• 1:24:07
  I'm amazed that daffodils come up every year.
• 1:24:09
  No, that's not Toledo. I love daffodils.
• 1:24:12
  It's just here it is. It's the middle of winter, it's
• 1:24:15
  freezing cold. I wouldn't be able to last 1/2
• 1:24:17
  hour. These things last all winter and
• 1:24:21
  then they come up year after year.
• 1:24:23
  That is so. So you say poetic and what?
• 1:24:25
  Do you say what do I like about the world?
• 1:24:27
  You like everything. So there's so many things to if
• 1:24:30
  you, if you focus on things that bring you joy, you'll see lots
• 1:24:34
  of them. If you focus on catastrophizing
• 1:24:36
  or this is how things are supposed to be, you'll be
• 1:24:41
  miserable all the time. That's what a lot of my content
• 1:24:43
  is based about. It's just like being positive
• 1:24:45
  and just like paying attention to the things to be grateful
• 1:24:48
  for. And I'm a true believer of that
• 1:24:49
  because I feel like it's also a lot of confirmation bias.
• 1:24:52
  It's like if you are going to pay attention to the good things
• 1:24:54
  that happen in your day or the good things in your life and the
• 1:24:56
  good things in the world, you are going to be happier and
• 1:24:57
  you're going to be more positive versus if you're focusing on the
• 1:25:00
  negative, you're going to be in your head and you're going to be
• 1:25:01
  miserable. You might end up liking
• 1:25:02
  licorice, who knows. Martin Seligman is a famous
• 1:25:06
  positive psychologist and and you can go on his website and
• 1:25:10
  take all these tests and they show you like, yeah, this is how
• 1:25:13
  you can be happier. You can be happier if you do the
• 1:25:16
  things you like doing. So he has a thing called
• 1:25:19
  signature strengths. You take this very in depth
• 1:25:22
  thing and you find out what you think are your strengths.
• 1:25:26
  So it's not necessarily you might say courage is your is
• 1:25:29
  your strength. What's your strength?
• 1:25:31
  And you go, yeah, I'm not going to get into that.
• 1:25:33
  They give you a few of them, but intellectual honesty was one of
• 1:25:37
  them and integrity. So to to be to fit with the your
• 1:25:41
  own. Brand.
• 1:25:42
  Creativity and courage was one of them.
• 1:25:45
  That's why I use it. So I'm not going to tell you all
• 1:25:47
  of them, but but the idea isn't that you actually have those
• 1:25:50
  things, it's the idea that you perceive them.
• 1:25:52
  If you use those things on a regular basis, you'll be happier
• 1:25:56
  because you feel like you're using your strengths.
• 1:26:00
  And yeah, it actually it does. It does work.
• 1:26:01
  Now, I will say if I relate that whole car rental thing back and
• 1:26:06
  I say, well, wait a second, you were just being miserable about
• 1:26:09
  that. I'd say the people that tried to
• 1:26:11
  help were fantastic. They didn't have the car, to be
• 1:26:15
  fair. They just didn't have the car
• 1:26:16
  there. So their system is messed up.
• 1:26:19
  The people there weren't messed up.
• 1:26:20
  They were super nice about it. They're like, let's try to find
• 1:26:23
  you a car now. They're not empowered to
• 1:26:25
  actually get me the car. They're but yeah, so if you look
• 1:26:28
  for the good, you'll find the good.
• 1:26:29
  I love that exactly, and I'm a big believer in that.
• 1:26:32
  I like to really focus on the positive things and like really
• 1:26:36
  to stay grounded in what I'm grateful for.
• 1:26:38
  And I think being grateful breeds more things to be
• 1:26:43
  grateful for. You know, people want to help
• 1:26:45
  people, so Dale Carnegie said. You know what, everyone?
• 1:26:49
  Why Everyone loves puppies Because they're unconditionally
• 1:26:52
  happy. They're happy to see you.
• 1:26:55
  Guess what? People are happier to see you.
• 1:26:58
  If you're a happy person, you go, well, I'm not going to fake
• 1:27:01
  it. It's like, no, no, it's not
• 1:27:03
  about faking it. It's trying to really find the
• 1:27:05
  happiness and realize that. Yeah.
• 1:27:08
  So it's your idea that good things come to people who are
• 1:27:10
  happier. It's true because people like to
• 1:27:13
  do things for people who are easier to get along with.
• 1:27:15
  Oh my gosh, Yeah, that's entirely true.
• 1:27:17
  Yeah. I like that that puppy
• 1:27:20
  technology. And we talked about Bioval.
• 1:27:22
  When you are difficult to people, guess what, They're
• 1:27:25
  difficult to you too. That's shade, Lulu.
• 1:27:28
  Yeah, we were Googling Bioval because I was like, what the
• 1:27:30
  hell is that? And it came up.
• 1:27:32
  It was like Bioval scams because of you.
• 1:27:36
  Yeah, I'm not, I'm not going to comment on anything.
• 1:27:38
  They the lawsuit was the lawsuit and it was all resolved and I
• 1:27:42
  think we were equally happy with how it was resolved.
• 1:27:45
  Are you media trained? No, no, I mean, if you mean like
• 1:27:50
  have I ever sat down with someone who said like how to how
• 1:27:53
  to answer things? No, but I've done I've been on
• 1:27:57
  CNBCA lot and NBC and AB like a lot of media and.
• 1:28:00
  All the all the letters. There is, I tried to think
• 1:28:04
  there's, I don't think there's a media thing that I haven't been
• 1:28:06
  on so. That's true.
• 1:28:08
  You're even on the Lulu. Exactly.
• 1:28:10
  This was the last of the bingo card.
• 1:28:12
  Oh yeah, the biggest one. The most well respected one out
• 1:28:16
  of those that you've mentioned. Well, you know how you've been
• 1:28:19
  like quoting people throughout this entire podcast, Lulu?
• 1:28:24
  A couple of people, but not a lot, but OK.
• 1:28:26
  More than most of you, I guess. Do you think that when you leave
• 1:28:30
  set today you'll start quoting me?
• 1:28:32
  Absolutely. What's a quote don't say from
• 1:28:34
  me? I will say probably delulu a few
• 1:28:37
  times because I still don't wholly understand what it means.
• 1:28:40
  It's very catchy, but I think that's the, that's like the the
• 1:28:45
  I say magic of it. That's that's the appeal of it
• 1:28:47
  because. The magic.
• 1:28:48
  Yeah, I told you, I don't really believe magic, but magic in that
• 1:28:51
  sense, I think that. You don't.
• 1:28:53
  You don't believe in magic? I don't believe I believe in
• 1:28:55
  magicians. Can we show the camera?
• 1:28:57
  What you're holding is exactly my what you've been clutching.
• 1:29:00
  Yeah, it's because I'm, I'm worried that I might have to use
• 1:29:02
  it as a weapon or something. So I'm like just holding on.
• 1:29:05
  And also if I threw it over my shoulder, I was like, yeah,
• 1:29:07
  whatever. That really isn't very
• 1:29:09
  endearing. So it's not very nice.
• 1:29:11
  I mean, you're not going to have to use as a weapon.
• 1:29:13
  I don't do all my own fighting. Brett, be careful.
• 1:29:16
  A whole hour has gone by and I've got no money though, so I'm
• 1:29:19
  not sure if it. You know that though.
• 1:29:21
  Have you checked? Have you checked the stock
• 1:29:22
  Lulu's? You know what?
• 1:29:24
  When I was doing my daily round table with the Wall Street
• 1:29:27
  beats, I felt very confident about my investment decisions
• 1:29:32
  from these informed professionals.
• 1:29:34
  Good. Well, we hope to.
• 1:29:35
  We hope that you make money. Thank you.
• 1:29:39
  OK, well what do you think the Lulu means?
• 1:29:42
  So I picked up on delusional and that's when you asked me like,
• 1:29:45
  what's your delulu take on something that was the licorice
• 1:29:48
  you? Were using the context Lulu.
• 1:29:51
  Delusional. I was saying, yeah, must be
• 1:29:53
  short for that, but if it's something else, well then I'm
• 1:29:56
  way off base and you went with it.
• 1:29:57
  So for now, that's what it means to me.
• 1:29:59
  Should we break it down? So if we don't know what delulu
• 1:30:03
  means, my name is Ryan Liu Delulu.
• 1:30:10
  I'm not following, I'm a little slow.
• 1:30:12
  Let's look at the hat. So let's look at my sock.
• 1:30:15
  Actually Fred's matching. So we have the hat.
• 1:30:19
  OK. So, Lou, I get the part.
• 1:30:20
  Lou is your name. Is it the first Lou or the
• 1:30:22
  second Lou? Well, it would be the second
• 1:30:24
  Lou. OK, yes.
• 1:30:26
  So then we have De Lou. De Lou, which is short for.
• 1:30:29
  I don't know, I thought delusional, but you, you kind of
• 1:30:33
  scared me away from that so. I'm just gaslighting you.
• 1:30:35
  It is short for delusional. So this is Delulu Ryan Lu where
• 1:30:40
  we talk about manifestation and we live our best delulu lives.
• 1:30:44
  Awesome. OK, so now I get it.
• 1:30:46
  So I was pretty much spot on already.
• 1:30:48
  Yes, use the proper context Lulu's to discover that it is
• 1:30:51
  about being delusional. Yes.
• 1:30:54
  All right. So did you decide on what quote
• 1:30:55
  you're going to quote from me? I don't know something I'm going
• 1:30:58
  to say don't be delulu or I'm going to say be delulu to people
• 1:31:02
  and they're going to be like, what is that?
• 1:31:03
  Or they're going to say, or they'll just laugh nervously and
• 1:31:06
  walk away. Well you need to specify it's
• 1:31:08
  delulu derogatory or delulu which is never derogatory.
• 1:31:13
  So it's like, OK, that's delulu. I'll probably say instead of
• 1:31:18
  saying like, that's awesome, I'll just be like, that's
• 1:31:20
  delulu. Oh my God, I love it.
• 1:31:21
  And I'll see if people just are like, all right.
• 1:31:23
  Yay, I get a royalty every time you say that.
• 1:31:26
  OK, so we're going to move on to another game.
• 1:31:28
  We're going to play with you. This is claim.
• 1:31:30
  We're never ending, are we? This is we're not going for
• 1:31:33
  another game. David, you're a yapper, Chino
• 1:31:35
  and I have segments to get. Through did we did we did I not
• 1:31:38
  know that this is going to be ours, but all right, OK.
• 1:31:41
  Wait, let's get a time check. You're at an.
• 1:31:44
  Hour. We're going to play a game,
• 1:31:47
  David. We're going to play a game of
• 1:31:49
  claim or rebuke. So claim is you accept this,
• 1:31:54
  rebuke is you reject it. I'm going to wrap a fire some
• 1:31:56
  topics to you just got it. You can give contacts, you can
• 1:31:59
  explain it or you can just say what your answer is, claim or
• 1:32:01
  rebuke. Are you ready?
• 1:32:03
  Why not claim or disclaim? I mean, it's a little catcher.
• 1:32:06
  Oh, because in delulu it's claim or review, OK.
• 1:32:10
  Claim or rebuke? But but on Wall Street beads you
• 1:32:13
  could do claim display. Your show, your rules, all right
• 1:32:18
  it. Would it, would it would seem
• 1:32:19
  that way, David. OK, OK.
• 1:32:22
  So we're going to start. You ready?
• 1:32:24
  Sure. First one, Katy Perry.
• 1:32:28
  Rebuke. OK, OK.
• 1:32:31
  I'm going to claim. Actually, I changed my mind.
• 1:32:33
  It should be easier than that. I'm going to claim because her
• 1:32:38
  her hits are great, I'm going to go what's.
• 1:32:40
  Her favorite Katy Perry song? California Girls is a pretty,
• 1:32:45
  pretty great song. Yeah, that's a pretty good 10.
• 1:32:47
  What's the one about the the, like, shooting Star one?
• 1:32:51
  Firework. Yeah, Firework.
• 1:32:52
  That's actually a great song. I'll go with that.
• 1:32:54
  My favorite Katy Perry song is Teenage Dream and actually
• 1:32:56
  interestingly enough California Girls and Teenage Dream were Co
• 1:33:00
  written by upcoming Dulu guest Bonnie McKee.
• 1:33:03
  Oh, awesome. OK.
• 1:33:04
  So I'll let her know that you love that song, David.
• 1:33:06
  And also that I claimed positive for for Katy Perry, so.
• 1:33:10
  We're going to do another one. What about Cardi B?
• 1:33:13
  Oh, absolutely Rebuke. No hesitation on that one.
• 1:33:17
  I think she's the one who like drugged men.
• 1:33:20
  Oh, wasn't she the one who drugged men when she was a
• 1:33:25
  exotic dancer? I don't know, I saw a tweet
• 1:33:27
  about that so. If that's true, I have to rebuke
• 1:33:30
  her. If it's not true, I apologize.
• 1:33:33
  It was your tweet. You tweeted that?
• 1:33:34
  Oh, did I? Good.
• 1:33:36
  You had tweeted that it felt too intense to bring onto the show,
• 1:33:40
  but now that we're here, it was your own tweet.
• 1:33:42
  And it was probably, if I remember, it had to do with
• 1:33:45
  like, why is anyone listening to her about a presidential pick?
• 1:33:48
  It was exactly that, yeah. Why would you listen to, first
• 1:33:50
  of all, why should you listen to any star unless you've like,
• 1:33:53
  they're just people like you. You know, Bruce Springsteen,
• 1:33:57
  he's just just a guy. He, he doesn't have any, you
• 1:34:00
  know, he's a billionaire or close to being a billionaire.
• 1:34:03
  We say billionaires are out of touch.
• 1:34:04
  We but we don't yet. We don't say Bruce Springsteen's
• 1:34:07
  out of touch, but he's just a person.
• 1:34:09
  He has a right to say what he says.
• 1:34:10
  But but Cardi B, she, if what's said about her is true and she
• 1:34:16
  drugged people like I don't, I give people a lot of grace.
• 1:34:19
  It's hard to overcome. Like, Oh yeah, I was in a mixed
• 1:34:22
  up position. I thought that was OK.
• 1:34:25
  Absolutely understandable. What about Elon Musk?
• 1:34:30
  Oh, I mean, I'm a huge fan of a lot of things that he does.
• 1:34:34
  I think he's brilliantly smart. But like most people, you can be
• 1:34:38
  really smart but not be maybe a great dad.
• 1:34:41
  I don't know him. I'll have to know that he's not
• 1:34:42
  a great dad, but the the stuff that he did at Doge, absolutely
• 1:34:46
  fine in my book. I know a lot of people who you
• 1:34:49
  know, my kids don't like him and the rest you're giving me a look
• 1:34:53
  like he's definitely a rebuke I'm going to claim.
• 1:34:59
  So what about if we were claiming or rebuking space?
• 1:35:04
  Why? But let's go focus on Elon Musk.
• 1:35:07
  Like he he kind of made electric cars.
• 1:35:10
  OK, He has. He invented and came up with a
• 1:35:14
  way to get people and satellites to space so much cheaper than
• 1:35:17
  anyone else has done. He did the doge stuff at our
• 1:35:22
  request, he didn't have to do it.
• 1:35:25
  So let's take in all his accomplishments right now.
• 1:35:29
  Let's look at the integrity of him as a person.
• 1:35:32
  What do we feel about that? Yeah.
• 1:35:34
  So I don't know enough about that to have an opinion.
• 1:35:36
  But I think like his drama with what I've read about his drama
• 1:35:43
  with his ex wives or the people that he's had children with,
• 1:35:48
  it's not how I'd conduct myself. If you're that rich, I wouldn't
• 1:35:50
  be arguing over money. But I don't, I don't live that
• 1:35:53
  life. So I don't know.
• 1:35:54
  Maybe there's stuff behind the scenes that we don't we don't
• 1:35:57
  know. So I'd say I don't know enough
• 1:36:00
  about that. I only know like OK, the things
• 1:36:02
  that he's done or I only look at that objectively, that part
• 1:36:06
  objectively. That is a very fascinating take.
• 1:36:11
  That's a nice way of saying you totally disagree, but that's all
• 1:36:13
  right. It's OK to disagree.
• 1:36:15
  I totally disagree. So my next one is space.
• 1:36:20
  Space like the concept of space or like going to outer space or
• 1:36:23
  just giving a space? What do you mean space?
• 1:36:29
  SPCE the stock the like there's the space.
• 1:36:33
  I can't answer that. The way it's phrased.
• 1:36:39
  Outer space, absolutely great. I think that people that we
• 1:36:44
  should explore outer space. We have to figure out while
• 1:36:48
  there are people hungry all over the country, how much do we put
• 1:36:51
  resources to do that? And there are people who are
• 1:36:54
  really struggling. So being able to colonize Mars,
• 1:36:58
  which I don't believe will ever happen, sounds really cool and
• 1:37:02
  everything. But for somebody who can't get
• 1:37:06
  to work because their car broke down or can't, who's standing in
• 1:37:09
  front of a pharmacy counter and telling the pharmacy of like, Oh
• 1:37:12
  no, I'll come back and pick it up next week when they have no
• 1:37:14
  intention of picking up their prescription because they can't
• 1:37:16
  afford it, It's tough. So I'd say yeah, it's a it's a
• 1:37:21
  good priority to have, but not so sure how high I'd prioritize
• 1:37:25
  it. I like space.
• 1:37:28
  All right, I agree. When you look up at the night,
• 1:37:31
  there's nothing more inspirational.
• 1:37:33
  Well, yes, OK, All right. Well, David, this has been such
• 1:37:38
  a fun insight. Oh, I have one more.
• 1:37:40
  All right, I'm afraid when you find something last.
• 1:37:45
  OK, we're going to claim a rebuke CVS Pharmacy.
• 1:37:53
  I'm going to have to rebuke. And.
• 1:37:56
  I'll explain. So recently I was at the
• 1:38:00
  pharmacy counter and I saw COVID test.
• 1:38:04
  COVID test for a single one was more expensive than buying 2 and
• 1:38:15
  it was like, well wait a second. So you're just trying to get
• 1:38:18
  people to like it didn't make any sense.
• 1:38:24
  In addition, like they take at least the one near us, they take
• 1:38:28
  an hour off or 45 minutes or half hour during lunchtime when
• 1:38:31
  a lot of people and they just closed the pharmacy, like lunch.
• 1:38:34
  Sorry, we're closed. That's a lot of people are
• 1:38:36
  trying to get their prescriptions at lunchtime.
• 1:38:39
  It's not. And I get it.
• 1:38:40
  People have to eat lunch. So stagger it.
• 1:38:41
  Do something like McDonald's doesn't close at lunchtime so
• 1:38:44
  that everybody there can eat. So yeah, CVS, I'm going to
• 1:38:50
  rebuke you. Should be better than you are.
• 1:38:52
  OK that's fair. I don't have an opinion on CVS,
• 1:38:55
  they were the only pharmacy I was aware of.
• 1:38:58
  Well, there are lots of them. There's Walgreens there.
• 1:39:00
  They all kind of run the same the same problem.
• 1:39:03
  The little scheme, the little pharmacy scheme, because you do
• 1:39:07
  pharmacy. Well, they what they so CVS and
• 1:39:10
  all the others, they make money because they want you to come in
• 1:39:13
  to pick up your prescription because when you come in, you're
• 1:39:15
  yellow stacky look, M&M's or. Or, oh, licorice.
• 1:39:19
  No, no one would. I can't imagine.
• 1:39:21
  I bet you they that I bet you CVS is even smart enough not to
• 1:39:25
  carry licorice the. Licorice beef goes deep.
• 1:39:29
  OK, Choose one biovil or licorice.
• 1:39:32
  But licorice, I mean, let's be, let's be fair about that.
• 1:39:34
  That's, that's easy. That's an easy one.
• 1:39:37
  So you do like licorice then? I love it.
• 1:39:40
  In relative to Bioval, yes. OK, so on the record you do
• 1:39:43
  enjoy licorice. Actually, Bioval was one of the
• 1:39:44
  greatest things that that happened to me.
• 1:39:46
  It was miserable at the time but yeah.
• 1:39:49
  So I but I still take licorice over Bioval.
• 1:39:52
  You know, your bio whale situation reminds me of I had A
• 1:39:57
  at a course I took when I was in university and there was.
• 1:40:03
  A thing about Bio Veil and like a lawsuit, it was like a big
• 1:40:07
  thing. It was like a case study.
• 1:40:08
  It was really interesting. Yeah, well, I if that were true,
• 1:40:12
  that would be great. But it is, it was a fascinating,
• 1:40:16
  fascinating episode. Lot to learn from it.
• 1:40:18
  Absolutely. That was definitely your
• 1:40:21
  redemption era. The best thing that came from it
• 1:40:24
  though, is that I didn't identify myself with my job
• 1:40:27
  anymore. You know what, I need a vice
• 1:40:29
  Lulu on that because I very much identify myself in my job.
• 1:40:32
  People need to know that they're worthy of love for who they are,
• 1:40:37
  not for what they do or whether they're good or bad at it.
• 1:40:41
  Even me. Not so much you, but most
• 1:40:43
  people. Other people, other people.
• 1:40:46
  I mean you too, but not you in particular.
• 1:40:50
  I think especially me. Yeah, I had to sign some sort of
• 1:40:53
  release that said that you can edit things and that you're
• 1:40:55
  going to edit that out. So I want to carve that out of
• 1:40:58
  the editing process that you're not allowed to edit that out.
• 1:41:01
  So you already signed the release, I fear.
• 1:41:03
  And then also too, we're actually going to edit this.
• 1:41:06
  So it's very licorice crazy. Great.
• 1:41:08
  That's, that would be my biggest, well, not my biggest
• 1:41:11
  nightmare, but that would be really unfortunate.
• 1:41:13
  All of a sudden I become a licorice spokesman from it.
• 1:41:15
  Absolutely. And they're going to send you a
• 1:41:17
  bunch. No, don't.
• 1:41:19
  Well, David, we close out every show with manifesting together.
• 1:41:22
  The universe is listening. Is there anything you want to
• 1:41:24
  speak into existence right now with us?
• 1:41:27
  Well, I said early on, and I know every time I say this, you,
• 1:41:30
  you kind of go, well, that's a little bit off and you're
• 1:41:32
  talking too much. I think is your glance at me is
• 1:41:36
  I believe in praying and I believe in showing up to the
• 1:41:40
  work. Wait, why did you?
• 1:41:42
  No, that's not true. I love that.
• 1:41:44
  I know you're talking about Elon Musk again.
• 1:41:45
  I was like, yeah, I'm going to do it again.
• 1:41:46
  No, no, no, no. I love praying.
• 1:41:48
  I think that's that's so if we're going to be a pray for
• 1:41:52
  something I I, I would say, and it's not Wall Street beats
• 1:41:57
  related because I, I go back to that story I told you about the
• 1:41:59
  priest. Yeah.
• 1:42:00
  I don't want to be, you know, pray that everyone, you know,
• 1:42:03
  has money and wins out of it because that's not going to
• 1:42:05
  happen anyway. So no, what I what I hope to, to
• 1:42:09
  pray and that that God brings that people have an
• 1:42:13
  understanding of their of their worth relative, like not tied to
• 1:42:18
  what they do, not tied to who they love, not tied to, to any
• 1:42:22
  of that. And that people accept that,
• 1:42:23
  that we've come so far in maybe the last 10 or 20 years.
• 1:42:27
  There's so much more to do. So I would hope that, I really
• 1:42:33
  would hope that that I would wish that into existence and I
• 1:42:36
  pray for that. And people can take little
• 1:42:38
  steps. To I am claiming that
• 1:42:40
  absolutely. And it all starts with you,
• 1:42:42
  bestie Lulu, and being that positive change.
• 1:42:46
  Yeah, I'm claiming that too. I think.
• 1:42:48
  What am I manifesting right now? I'm manifesting that we get to
• 1:42:55
  spend more time together because you don't live here.
• 1:42:58
  Awesome. Well, we'll do it.
• 1:43:00
  Yeah. You have to make it a
• 1:43:01
  commitment. That's what I meant by the
• 1:43:02
  planning. Once a year as you plan it.
• 1:43:04
  OK, we're going to plan it right now.
• 1:43:06
  When are you free passes event in six months in New York on
• 1:43:11
  them all the best. You would go.
• 1:43:14
  Absolutely. They're my partner.
• 1:43:16
  I love them. So we, yeah, I'm.
• 1:43:17
  Excited to see what that event, absolutely, I'm going to be
• 1:43:20
  there. OK, good.
• 1:43:21
  Let's plan on it. Well, David, we David, we got
• 1:43:24
  into so much to Lulu today and obviously you were very strongly
• 1:43:29
  held in your convictions on what you believe and what you don't
• 1:43:31
  believe. So I'm kind of curious, Lulu, if
• 1:43:34
  we could do a cute little quick three car tarot reading on you.
• 1:43:37
  Sure. I mean, I've told you I don't
• 1:43:39
  believe that, but if it's for fun, why not?
• 1:43:41
  It's for fun, Lulu Sure. So do you have any questions,
• 1:43:44
  any concerns, anything you want me to kind of look into and read
• 1:43:47
  for you or do you just want to pull cards and see what's?
• 1:43:48
  Up pull cards will hopefully it comes up with like a Lotto
• 1:43:52
  ticket or something like that. OK, well if it did I wouldn't be
• 1:43:55
  here. So the first card we have right
• 1:43:58
  now is the 9 of Pentacles in reverse.
• 1:44:02
  We also have the seven Pentacles in reverse.
• 1:44:04
  Very interesting. Pentacles represent money, and
• 1:44:06
  the last one's the Ace of Pentacles upright.
• 1:44:08
  So I think what I'm kind of reading here, First things
• 1:44:11
  first, the seven Pentacles in reverse, it's kind of ask you
• 1:44:13
  not to work as hard. You're already putting the
• 1:44:15
  effort in work that you've done. You've already had a career, a
• 1:44:18
  lifetime of putting in the work and energy, and you've reaped
• 1:44:20
  the benefits of it. You don't need to invest so
• 1:44:22
  deeply into it. With that being said, it's also
• 1:44:24
  really important that you are being really intentional about
• 1:44:27
  where your money is flowing. This is the 9 of Pentacles.
• 1:44:29
  This is luxury. We have it in reverse.
• 1:44:31
  So I think being intentional about how you're spending your
• 1:44:33
  money, where you're investing, where you're putting your
• 1:44:35
  stocks, how much you're going to support the Lulu Ryan Liu, and
• 1:44:38
  also with the Ace of Pentacles upright, this thing an
• 1:44:40
  opportunity is going to come to you.
• 1:44:41
  So I think you're going to have something come in that could be
• 1:44:44
  very exciting for you very soon. You're going to tell us?
• 1:44:46
  Even more than today. Even more exciting, I mean, I,
• 1:44:49
  I, I personally don't believe it either, but it could be.
• 1:44:53
  All right, what it does, I'm going to, I'm going to.
• 1:44:54
  You'll be the first person they call.
• 1:44:56
  You have my e-mail. You keep saying that.
• 1:44:58
  You keep saying whenever I say I'll call you, you're like, you
• 1:45:00
  have my e-mail. Yeah, like, that's not a phone
• 1:45:03
  number. And so I'm not going to.
• 1:45:05
  No one emails someone with news. Well, guess my big news.
• 1:45:07
  I just won the law. Do you have my phone number?
• 1:45:09
  I don't so but but what do you have?
• 1:45:13
  I have your e-mail. Right, so you would e-mail.
• 1:45:16
  Me, yeah, but so you can't be like, oh, thanks for being a
• 1:45:19
  guest. I'm not going to give you my
• 1:45:20
  phone number. Not cool.
• 1:45:21
  Even if you give me a. Well, we're besties, so you'll
• 1:45:24
  get my number. All right.
• 1:45:24
  So then I'll let you know immediately.
• 1:45:26
  OK, then you will call me. Absolutely.
• 1:45:28
  OK, I'll, I'll stop. More like more likely I'll text,
• 1:45:30
  but OK, I mean, I'll be I'll be busy because it'll be really big
• 1:45:34
  opportunity. It'll be a really big
• 1:45:35
  opportunity, yeah. You just gave a whole spiel
• 1:45:37
  about the call just to divert to the tax.
• 1:45:40
  Yeah, exactly. OK, right, right, right.
• 1:45:43
  That is what my tarot cards told me that you would do too.
• 1:45:46
  Awesome all. Right.
• 1:45:46
  OK, so hopefully works out. OK, David, do you have any
• 1:45:51
  question Lulu's for me before we end the show?
• 1:45:53
  So I've been on a lot of like news things.
• 1:45:56
  I mentioned that earlier a lot of.
• 1:45:57
  Different. Less prestigious, Yes.
• 1:46:00
  But no one's ever had teddy bears.
• 1:46:03
  So what's the deal with the teddy bears?
• 1:46:05
  So the teddy bears, I wanted a little comfort toy and it
• 1:46:08
  actually was originally birthed from wanting to give our
• 1:46:13
  producer Brett a little Dulu teddy bear.
• 1:46:16
  It's just super cute. He is a miserable, anxious,
• 1:46:20
  licorice loving person so I figured he could have one and he
• 1:46:23
  looked really comfy when he had one so I thought why don't my
• 1:46:26
  guests and I have one for the show too.
• 1:46:28
  OK, so this isn't one that you took from him, right?
• 1:46:30
  This is a new one. Brett had the original, OK.
• 1:46:34
  Yes. Perfect.
• 1:46:34
  OK, These are the siblings of Brett's.
• 1:46:37
  OK, awesome. That's a good question.
• 1:46:39
  What else you got for me? Two years from now.
• 1:46:44
  Yes. What's your vision for you?
• 1:46:48
  And hopefully at that point, we would have toured the podcast at
• 1:46:52
  some point in the next year, 2 years from now, my book for sure
• 1:46:57
  will be out Delulu of Ryan Lou, Delulu, Too True Lulu, you're
• 1:47:00
  10. Easy principle.
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  It's a long name. We'll, we'll get back to it.
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  But that book will be out in two years.
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  And we'll just continue to be making amazing things, building
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  That's what I'm hoping for. That's what I'm manifesting.
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  Awesome, great question. What about you 2 years from now
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  you come back for do Lulu All Star season?
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  I'll come back for the All Star season.
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  I'll have to see how this ticket sales are for the podcast tour.
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  If I join, if I'm if I let's see if it sells out, I'm definitely
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  there. If it's a little slow I might be
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  if it's going to be a good investment.
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  Yeah, that's that's true. So no, two years from now, look,
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  I hope that Wall Street beats continues to grow.
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  I hope that we have a positive impact on people who who listen.
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  I hope that I've spent time the way I've that I hope to
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  And generally, I hope that I, I don't focus on catastrophizing
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  things, but I help focus on, you know, we talked about people who
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  to say to friends. Oh, this is miserable in the
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  something of finding a solution or at least supporting
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  solutions. I feel like even throughout this
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  So you're already doing it not in two years from now.
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  You're already doing it now. Great.
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  A lot of it will be cut. All right.
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