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Foodie Friday with Neil Saavedra | The Gen Z Stare · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handel on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: 640 They're.
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  Speaker 2: Fine Handle here in the morning crew. It's a foodie Friday,
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  Speaker 2: September 4th. And before we dive into our two segments
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  Speaker 2: with Neil, we are looking at some of the big stories.
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  Speaker 2: One of them being, well, unemployment is.
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  Speaker 3: Down again.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the employment figure is pretty good, except whenever
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  Speaker 2: it goes down or up, that is big numbers across
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  Speaker 2: the board. And it really doesn't tell us much. Because
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  Speaker 2: we need specifics.
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  Speaker 3: Where? Which fields? Are they good jobs? Are they part-time?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, all of that. And diesel hit a record
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  Speaker 3: price today. So it's.
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  Speaker 2: A mess out there. Inflation is still there and the
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  Speaker 2: Strait of Hormuz is. Even though the administration says it
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  Speaker 2: is wide open, it is not. It is more open
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  Speaker 2: than it was, but it's not wide open. Okay, here
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  Speaker 2: we go with Neil. One of my favorite topics, one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite segments that we do on the show
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  Speaker 2: is Friday with Neil, Foodie Friday. Neil heard tomorrow on
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  Speaker 2: his show, The Fork Report, All Things Food. That's tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: from 2 to 5 p.m. First of all, I tell
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  Speaker 2: you from 8 to 11 how you are going to
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  Speaker 2: sue people for poisoning and your family will sue for
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  Speaker 2: wrongful death when you eat the wrong thing. And Neil
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  Speaker 2: will tell you how great food is. Okay, Neil.
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  Speaker 1: What a pair.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it just really works, doesn't it? All right.
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  Speaker 2: I immediately went to the topic that you came up with,
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  Speaker 2: grilled foods in every state. I love grilling. It's one
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  Speaker 2: of my all-time favorites. Matter of fact, when Neil's come
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  Speaker 2: to my house or I go to his house, it's grill.
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  Speaker 3: It's grill time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've grilled for you a couple of times.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I love it. Okay. So, explain what you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about, grilled food in every state.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So, this is a breakdown, and these always crack
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  Speaker 1: me up because....
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  Speaker 4: There are differences. Everybody assumes it's going to be hot dog.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's America. It's going to be hot dogs
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  Speaker 4: and hamburgers. But each of our 50 states actually eats
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  Speaker 4: differently on the grill. Alabama, famous grilled ribs, steak, and
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  Speaker 4: Boston butt.
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  Speaker 3: Boston butt?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And if you buy a big butt. Then
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about, of course, Will grilling. Only in Boston.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this. This just in, by the way. Congratulations, Ann.
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  Speaker 1: Just looked you up.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: If she ever gets suspended, I want her to serve
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  Speaker 4: that sentence at my house. Lot of Ann love coming
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  Speaker 4: in today.
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  Speaker 3: OK, excellent.
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  Speaker 4: OK, so this breaks down all of, you know, what
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  Speaker 4: people dig Alaska. This is a no brainer. Grilled salmon,
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  Speaker 4: moose burger and halibut. So that's what they're grilling up
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  Speaker 4: at in Alaska. Arizona is carne asada and hamburgers and
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  Speaker 4: hot dogs, California. And you remember this bill because we
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  Speaker 4: used to have them all the time on the morning show.
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  Speaker 1: Santa Maria-style barbecue. Do you remember when they would come in?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
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  Speaker 1: Santa Maria barbecue.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, those fabulous foods. They bring in the grilled foods.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when I think of grilled foods, to me,
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  Speaker 2: I immediately go to ribs and the differences around the
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  Speaker 2: country with ribs. St. Louis ribs. Ribs in California. How
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  Speaker 2: they do the ribs, for example, in the southern states.
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  Speaker 2: in texas all some dry rub some uh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah some are more it uh vinegary and yeah you
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  Speaker 4: know so it depends where you are but you could
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  Speaker 4: probably guess some of these if i said hawaii what
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  Speaker 4: what are they going to put on the grill when
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  Speaker 4: you think.
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  Speaker 1: Of hawaii spam actually they probably do although that's.
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  Speaker 4: Not on here kalua pork the first time i had
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  Speaker 4: kalua pork in hawaii it is it is heavenly It's
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  Speaker 4: hard to explain how great Kalua pork is, but they
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  Speaker 4: do do ribs. They don't call them ribs. They call
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  Speaker 4: them Calbee or something like that. They do chicken there. Idaho,
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  Speaker 4: grilled trout, steak, and potatoes, of course. But you go
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  Speaker 4: to Illinois, and it's bratwurst, Chicago-style hot dogs and ribs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense because it's such a huge German
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  Speaker 2: population in that part of the country.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: In Hawaii- Talking about pork, I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 2: been to one of those luau's that they have, those
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  Speaker 2: totally commercialized luau's.
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  Speaker 3: And they always have a pig. I mean, a whole pig.
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  Speaker 2: That's the Tulu pig. They put it in the ground
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  Speaker 2: and they cook it for 24 hours on hot rocks.
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  Speaker 1: Banana leaves, all that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all of that. And I, God, I'll never forget
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  Speaker 3: the first time I did that. It was so delicious.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the guy who pulled the pig out screaming,
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  Speaker 2: that's my pet pig.
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  Speaker 3: What are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 2: Jeez.
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  Speaker 3: He was very upset, by the way, just to let
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  Speaker 3: you know. Piglet, piglet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's rough.
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  Speaker 2: But the point is, you're right, because when you talk
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  Speaker 2: about Samoa, you talk about certainly Hawaiians, they do.
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  Speaker 3: Pork in a big way.
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  Speaker 4: My brother-in-law, Jason, is a fantastic cook and a fantastic griller.
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  Speaker 4: And one year, he dug a hole in his parents'
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  Speaker 4: backyard and he cooked us, I think it was pork,
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  Speaker 4: in a hole just like you would kalua. If you
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  Speaker 4: have the space, look it up. It's pretty amazing to do.
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  Speaker 4: Maine is lobster, of course. This one made me laugh
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  Speaker 4: because I guess I just wasn't expecting it.
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  Speaker 1: Louisiana, barbecued gator meat. Hmm.
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  Speaker 3: That also makes sense. You've been to Louisiana?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I've had gator meat. It's hard to cook. It's a
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  Speaker 2: little chewy.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 2: And the problem is there's almost no fat on it
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  Speaker 2: at all. And when you have no fat... then the
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  Speaker 2: cooking process is very difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I've had some tasty gator sausage, but gator is gator.
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  Speaker 1: It can be deep fried. It's tasty.
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  Speaker 3: And the other thing, Norway, you know what they do?
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  Speaker 3: It's the Norway whale.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Whale.
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  Speaker 2: They'll barbecue whale. And that is also very difficult to
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  Speaker 2: do well. And it doesn't taste like chicken. Gator tastes
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  Speaker 2: like chicken. Everything tastes like chicken.
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  Speaker 3: Except chicken. For some reason, chicken doesn't taste like chicken.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Colorado, what they grill?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain oysters.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. Rocky Mountain oysters. And I've had those.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they're actually pretty good, except when you think
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  Speaker 2: of what they are.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, for those people.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe you ate them. That's nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what they are. Those are bull's nuts.
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  Speaker 2: The big way is to fry them up.
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  Speaker 1: I've never eaten them. Are they oyster-like?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no. Nothing like that.
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  Speaker 1: Are they like a meatball?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're meat. Not like meatball because it doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: that texture, but it's like meat. I thought it tasted
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  Speaker 2: a little bit like tongue. I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 2: ever had cow tongue.
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  Speaker 3: Like what?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Cow tongue, which is.
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  Speaker 2: Is it that same consistency?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a beefy- It's like a tender meat. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a tender, beefy kind of meat.
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  Speaker 3: It was great.
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  Speaker 2: Whale is pretty chewy. There's no fat in whale at all.
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  Speaker 2: And you would think with all that blubber, blubber is
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  Speaker 2: on the outside of the whale. The muscles are inside
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  Speaker 2: and there is zero fat. Yeah, because they're swimming 24-7.
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  Speaker 2: And when I ate the whale- As I said, this
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  Speaker 2: tastes a lot like Free Willy. I actually said that.
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  Speaker 2: It tasted a little bit like beef that was sitting
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  Speaker 2: next to a piece of liver in the refrigerator. Just
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  Speaker 2: this tiny bit of liver sort of flavor, which I hate.
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  Speaker 1: Just remember, lengua, the snack that tastes you back.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. There we go. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now, moving back to Foodie Friday, since it's coming up to,
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  Speaker 2: we're pretty close to Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: Well, for people that love Halloween, yeah, we're in it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And so Wendy's has, well, what they're doing with their meal, kids' meals,
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  Speaker 2: back for a limited time. What's happening with their Halloween special?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, every movie that comes out, whether it's
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  Speaker 4: Hello Kitty or SpongeBob or Sonic the Hedgehog, of course,
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  Speaker 4: Minions came out and that was all over the place
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  Speaker 4: at Wendy's as well. These are the kids meals where
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  Speaker 4: you get a toy inside. Well, they've brought this back
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  Speaker 4: for a limited time.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. This is the third year.
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  Speaker 4: That the Frosty Frights Kids meal is back for what
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  Speaker 4: they say is another haunt.
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  Speaker 1: I love that meal. That's good.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny that you say that, Amy, because ultimately they said,
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  Speaker 4: although these are kids meals, you know, anybody can buy them.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of adults do.
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  Speaker 4: In this particular case, the toy inside is actually costumed.
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  Speaker 1: Of their Frosty. So there's these little frosty.
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  Speaker 4: Uh you know they're not malts they're kind of their
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  Speaker 4: own thing they're a shake sort of but um anyways
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  Speaker 4: and there there's one that's a mummy and a haunted
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  Speaker 4: night or something like that. But each inside themed meal bag,
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  Speaker 4: you'll find that collectible toy. You'll also get a sticker sheet,
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  Speaker 4: mini trading cars. And this is six colored variants. And
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  Speaker 4: each year they've had these. So people are collecting them
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  Speaker 4: throughout the years. And people seem to really dig them.
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  Speaker 4: We haven't started collecting these at all, but we have
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  Speaker 4: collected many of the things.
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  Speaker 2: So let me ask you, this is nationwide. Do they
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  Speaker 2: ever do regional promotions? You know, for example, Texas, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the reissue of Debbie Does Dallas, for example. And the
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  Speaker 2: toy inside, well, you know, it's fairly controversial.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say no on that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Just wondering.
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  Speaker 1: The green door is out.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough. Hey, let me ask this because— If it
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  Speaker 2: is that popular, why wouldn't they and do they bring
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  Speaker 2: out a sort of a year-round version of this drink
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  Speaker 2: because everybody loves it so much?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's not the drink. The drink is always out.
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  Speaker 4: These are the little toys inside it. So it's the
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  Speaker 4: same drink? Yeah, it's your typical. But McDonald's does that.
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  Speaker 4: There are certain flavors that come with seasons. In this
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  Speaker 4: particular Frosty Fright Meal, though, It comes with your choice
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  Speaker 4: of entree, your side, and your drink. So you can
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  Speaker 4: choose from two-piece chicken tenders, four-piece chicken nuggets, a hamburger,
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  Speaker 4: a cheeseburger. And then you can also pick the hot
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  Speaker 4: and crispy fries or apple bites for a side. And
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  Speaker 4: of course, you can enjoy a junior frosty.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, a quick question about McDonald's. Do we know when
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  Speaker 2: their rib sandwich comes out? Because I love those sandwiches.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was always around March.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I love the fact that they're kind of, sort of,
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  Speaker 2: almost meat.
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  Speaker 1: They are real meat. It's funny you say that.
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  Speaker 4: If you look that up, McDonald's did a video on
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  Speaker 4: how they make those so that people could see that
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  Speaker 4: it's real pork.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's actual pork.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, what part of the pig? I think it's— Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think it's a pork shoulder or something.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and that's, for example, spam. What part of the
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  Speaker 2: meat is spam? It isn't tenderloin, I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 2: It isn't the ribeye.
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  Speaker 1: I was incorrect. The big rib usually returns in fall. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So mid-November through January.
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  Speaker 3: Looking forward to it. I really love those, the big ribs.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go and we'll have some.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you betcha. Okay, guys, we are done.
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  Speaker 2: Now, as we end the show, the last half hour
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  Speaker 2: of the program and the big story we are covering,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like the Lindsay Clancy trial is about to
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  Speaker 2: be declared a mistrial officially. The judge has already said
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  Speaker 2: he has no choice. Amy, what's the latest on that
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  Speaker 2: you've been following?
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  Speaker 5: So the judge has said that he's going to declare
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  Speaker 5: a mistrial, but the defense is still fighting against it.
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  Speaker 5: And so he granted the request for a one hour
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  Speaker 5: stay so they can appeal because the defense still wants
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  Speaker 5: that one juror thrown off. So we don't have a
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  Speaker 5: final decision for probably an hour.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and I'm assuming the appeal goes back to the
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  Speaker 2: judge if he declares a mistrial for reconsideration, because in
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  Speaker 2: one hour you can't get in front of an appeals court.
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  Speaker 2: Even for the death penalty, about someone who's being executed,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to get in front of any kind of court.
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  Speaker 2: So it will be declared a mistrial, and we don't
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  Speaker 2: know under what basis. There are two ways that he
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  Speaker 2: can declare a mistrial. One, the jury is deadlocked, and
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  Speaker 2: as he says, he has no choice simply because they
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  Speaker 2: can't agree, or... how the law in Massachusetts is interpreted,
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  Speaker 2: because the judge can send a jury back beyond the
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  Speaker 2: two times, which is the maximum, if the jury has
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  Speaker 2: asked for additional instructions.
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  Speaker 3: And they did.
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  Speaker 2: They asked for what is reasonable doubt. How does the
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  Speaker 2: law describe reasonable doubt? The judge gave it to them
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  Speaker 2: and then sent them right back into the jury room.
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  Speaker 2: And after that mistrial trial, is you may be forced
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  Speaker 2: to declare a mistrial because of the deadlock, which means
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  Speaker 2: that she's going to be retried. And they start all
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  Speaker 2: over again. Now, talking about Donald Trump, how unusual. And California,
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  Speaker 2: the fight between California, Gavin Newsom, and the president is
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  Speaker 2: probably the strongest fight of any political entity, state, county,
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  Speaker 2: city in the country against the administration.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the big, big.
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  Speaker 2: Issues is the whole issue of EVs and alternative energy.
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  Speaker 2: California loves alternative energy. Donald Trump hates alternative energy. He
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  Speaker 2: does not like EVs. He does not like wind. He
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  Speaker 2: does not like any kind of power, any kind of
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  Speaker 2: fuel other than fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. Drill, baby, drill. That's where he lives. That's
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  Speaker 3: where it's all going to be.
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  Speaker 2: And California goes completely the other way. California is the
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  Speaker 2: most EV friendly state in the union. More EVs are
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  Speaker 2: sold in California than any other state. And not just
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  Speaker 2: because in terms of sheer numbers, which is going to
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  Speaker 2: happen because of that population, but as a per capita,
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  Speaker 2: as the number of people. And the number of charging
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  Speaker 2: stations are going up. You know, this year they're shooting
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  Speaker 2: for will probably reach more charging stations than gas stations
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  Speaker 2: in the state. And then something that is never talked
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  Speaker 2: about very much is that the charging stations that don't
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  Speaker 2: have superchargers, those chargers that can charge a car in
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  Speaker 2: 20 minutes or less, if it's a regular car, charging
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  Speaker 2: station and it takes hours to charge a car are
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  Speaker 2: a waste of time there's just a waste of time
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  Speaker 2: why would anybody do that you go to a charging
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  Speaker 2: station and you're going to sit there for four hours
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  Speaker 2: waiting for your car to be charged who does that
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  Speaker 2: you know in all the years that i had i
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  Speaker 2: had my uh ev my beamer ev i never once
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  Speaker 2: went to a public charging station not once Because the
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  Speaker 2: charging stations that are around that had open plugs or
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  Speaker 2: open charging facilities, all the superchargers were plugged up. Well,
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  Speaker 2: so to speak, cars were plugged in and didn't have
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  Speaker 2: access to them. So, yeah, okay, go to a regular
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  Speaker 2: charging facility. No, makes no sense. So I think that's
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  Speaker 2: going to hurt the whole issue. But EVs are growing
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  Speaker 2: like crazy. And here is why. Because you've got a
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  Speaker 2: law that now says that by 2035, there will be
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  Speaker 2: no gasoline cars to be sold anymore in California.
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  Speaker 3: Boom. Done.
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  Speaker 2: Only electric cars by 2035. By 2045, the entire state
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  Speaker 2: has to have carbon neutrality.
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  Speaker 3: You cannot do that without EVs. You can't.
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  Speaker 2: It's impossible to reach that level of neutrality, of carbon neutrality.
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  Speaker 2: So the president in recent months has taken a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of steps, about a dozen, dozens, to erode our ability
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  Speaker 2: to get to the 2035 and the 2045, the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Eliminating the federal tax credit for people who buy EVs.
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  Speaker 2: Repealing the finding that greenhouse gases are dangerous.
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  Speaker 3: Now, why is that a big deal?
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  Speaker 2: Because California's legal basis for regulating vehicle emissions under the
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  Speaker 2: Clean Air Act is based on those numbers. And according
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  Speaker 2: to the feds, those numbers don't exist anymore. So the
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  Speaker 2: immediate lawsuit is going to hit. There is no legal
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  Speaker 2: basis for the Clean Air Act. It doesn't exist anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And what do the courts do with that?
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  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Although Californians have held their ground, we have. In the
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  Speaker 2: second quarter of this year, 19% of new car sales
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  Speaker 2: were zero emission vehicles. That's three times higher than the
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  Speaker 2: national market. But it's less than the same quarter in 2025,
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  Speaker 2: which was down also from 2024. So right now, if
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at California, one in 12 vehicles, one in
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: 12 cars and pickups on the road are zero emissions.
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  Speaker 2: One in six sold in California is fully electric.
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  Speaker 3: So that fight.
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  Speaker 2: Is going to continue on as long as the Trump
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  Speaker 2: administration continues.
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  Speaker 3: Is in place.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: And if there is a Democrat that is elected in 2028,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: you'll see that completely reversed.
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  Speaker 3: And we're back to EVs.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: And then the issue is that the car manufacturers, which
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: way do they go when administrations bounce back and forth?
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Because you have to plan or they have to plan
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: years in advance. to create a car, particularly with brand
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: new technology, the EVs. Don't know where that's going to go.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: But I do know that the fight with California and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the feds, particularly Donald Trump, goes on and will not stop.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Will not stop till the day he stops being the president. Okay. Okay,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: what is the Gen Z stare? Well, let me give
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: you an example. This happens to me regularly. I'll look
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  Speaker 2: for a building or an office and I'm on a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: campus of some kind where there are a bunch of
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: buildings and my GPS takes me to that general area.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll be driving around looking for the building and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I see someone, clearly a worker or something who knows
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the area. And I'll go up and say, hey, where is,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: and then I give the address or I give the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: name of the organization. And if it's someone that's Gen Z,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: what I'll do is instead of getting a, oh, it's
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: a second building down over there. You see that over,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: you see that stop sign over there?
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: You know what I get?
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I get a grunt and a point. And pointing in
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the general area. That's the Gen Z stare. You just,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: you can't get them to talk. All they do is
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: stare at you and give you a point. And so
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that is, it's a silent blank expression, and it is
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: for real. Analysis just published in Perspectives on Psychological Science,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: more than 2,000 people found that we are speaking about
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: 300 fewer words a day, two to three minutes worth,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: which doesn't sound like a lot. It is, and that
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: happens every year. There's been a 28% decline from 2005
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to 2019 as to how many words we speak. Now,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: is that important? Oh, you bet. That's important. Why is
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it happening? Well, how about this? You have smartphones.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: We text.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: We don't talk face to face. And it used to
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: be that in human history, talking was the way to communicate.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: You could write a letter, but if you're buying something,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: if you're going around, you're meeting a stranger, you work
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: alongside someone, maintaining a friendship, you had to talk.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Now, talking is optional.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: And the issue is talking is a window into the brain,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: scientists have said. And here is one, and I'm going
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: to end it here, although there's a lot more to
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: it than that. What ends up happening is language difficulties
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: are common in dementia and neurological disorders. So patients who
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: have a hard time talking, well, it's a symptom of
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: dementia and they have a hard time understanding. Okay, so
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: it is a symptom of dementia.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: How about this?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Let's reverse it where dementia is a symptom of not talking.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: It's the other way around that you look at talking
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: as a cause of the dementia or the lack of talking.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: And that's what scientists are finding. And when you look
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: at people who text, I've told this story many times
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: years ago when my kids were teenagers. They were sitting
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: on a couch and they were texting each other and
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: they were sitting six feet apart. I said, hey, why
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: don't you just turn left and start talking? And instead
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: they'd rather go on the text. Now, is that a
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: form of dementia? Is it cause dementia? Well, if you
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: meet my kids, the answer is absolutely yes. So we
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: spend less time together. That means that a lot of
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: people argue that's a collapse of the American civic participation.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: It's just going south. We're withdrawing from clubs and churches,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: neighborhood organizations. And those are forms.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Of communal participation.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And that happened in the 1960s when TV took off.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: That happened.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: There was less talking and we see an increase in dementia. Now,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: is it because there's an increase in dementia or we're
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: recognizing it more? We're reporting on it more. They're still
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: studying that. Don't know, but talking, although in my case,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I do a lot of talking for sure. But look
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: at the interaction here, right? We are having a conversation
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: and we do that for three hours a day and
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I do all the talking. Neil comes in and Amy
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: comes in and Kono, thank goodness, is silent. And Will
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: is limited to traffic for a very good reason.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: It's, ooh, dementia. Oh, yes. Yes. We're done.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Coming up.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: It's Gary and Shannon on a Friday. Of course, Monday,
• 24:55
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• 24:59
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• 25:02
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• 25:05
  Speaker 2: with the Fork Report. Have a good weekend. This is KFI. Okay, Kono,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: he points to himself.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: All right, Kono. See, you said something, Kono. You said something.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 25:17
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