Latest / The Woman at the Well Ministries Podcast / 360 | Conversations - Proverbs 14 (Part 1)
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- 1:02In this episode of the woman at the well ministries podcast
- 1:05join kim miller and erica close in a conversation as we walk with jesus in today's
- 1:11conversation we continue a series on the book of proverbs and in today's podcast
- 1:16we're discussing the lessons learned in proverbs chapter 14 well Well,
- 1:21thank you, everyone, for joining us.
- 1:23I'm Erica Close, and I am here with Kim Miller.
- 1:27Hello, and thank you for joining us in this podcast of Woman at the Well Ministries
- 1:30as we walk through Proverbs, learning what God has for each of us so that we
- 1:36would be more of what He would ask us to be.
- 1:38This is a really neat chapter in the book of Proverbs.
- 1:42It describes wisdom from a lot of different viewpoints and a lot of different
- 1:46aspects of wisdom, and I'm excited for us to discuss them.
- 1:51And it also really talks about the importance of fearing the Lord from a place
- 1:56of respect and understanding that He, that He's God.
- 2:01And then lastly, there are just some really, really neat verses in here about
- 2:05the state of our heart and how our heart really drives so much of what we do.
- 2:10And therefore, we need to have our hearts in the right place.
- 2:13So as we jump into Proverbs chapter 14, Kim, would you like to start reading?
- 2:19Every wise woman buildeth her house, but the foolish plucketh it down with her hand.
- 2:25He that walketh in his uprightness feareth the Lord, but he that is perverse
- 2:30in his ways despiseth him.
- 2:32In the mouth of the foolish is a rod of pride, but the lips of the wise shall preserve them.
- 2:38Where no oxen are, the crib is clean. But much increases by the strength of the ox.
- 2:44A faithful witness will not lie, but a false witness will utter lies.
- 2:49A scorner seeketh wisdom and findeth it not, but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth.
- 2:55Go from the presence of a foolish man when thou perceivest not in him the lips
- 2:59of knowledge. The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way,
- 3:04but the folly of fools is deceit.
- 3:06Fools make a mock at sin, but among the righteous there is favor.
- 3:11The heart knoweth his own bitterness, and a stranger doth not intermeddle with his joy.
- 3:16The house of the wicked shall be overthrown, but the tabernacle of the upright shall flourish.
- 3:21There is a way which seemeth right unto man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
- 3:25Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful, and the end of the myrrh is heaviness.
- 3:30The backslider and heart shall be filled with his own ways, and the good man
- 3:34shall be satisfied from himself.
- 3:37Starting in verse 15. The simple
- 3:40believeth every word, but the prudent man looketh well to his going.
- 3:44A wise man feareth and departeth from evil, but the fool rageth and is confident.
- 3:49He that is soon angry dealeth foolishly, and a man of wicked devices is hated.
- 3:55The simple inherit folly, but the prudent are crowned with knowledge.
- 3:59The evil bow before the good and the wicked at the gates of the righteous.
- 4:04The poor is hated even of his own neighbor, but the rich hath many friends.
- 4:08He that despiseth his neighbor sinneth, but he that hath mercy on the poor, happy is he.
- 4:15Do they not err that devise evil? But mercy and truth shall be to them the devised good.
- 4:22In all labor there is profit, but the talk of the lips tendeth only to penury.
- 4:28The crown of the wise is their riches, but the foolishness of fools is folly.
- 4:33A true witness delivereth souls, but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.
- 4:38In the fear of the Lord is strong confidence, and his children shall have a place of refuge.
- 4:45The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.
- 4:50In the multitude of people is the king's honor, but in the want of people is
- 4:55the destruction of the prince.
- 4:57He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding, but he that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly.
- 5:03A sound heart is the life of the flesh, but envy the rottenness of the bones.
- 5:09He that oppresseth the poor reproacheth his maker, but he that honoreth him hath mercy on the poor.
- 5:15The wicked is driven away in his wickedness, but the righteous hath hope in his death.
- 5:20Wisdom resteth in the heart of him that hath understanding, but that which is
- 5:25in the midst of fools is made known.
- 5:28Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.
- 5:34You know, there was something that came to my mind as you were reading.
- 5:37The entire book of Proverbs has talked a lot about foolishness or doing the wrong thing.
- 5:45And I think that it's important that we just take a second to realize that in the Old Testament,
- 5:51seldom if ever when they use the word fool, are they describing like a feeble-minded,
- 5:57imbecile idiot or a moron or somebody that's not of mental capacity.
- 6:04They are almost always, well, I believe always, it is referring to a rebel,
- 6:11like somebody who is especially against God's laws. That's the foolish.
- 6:16That's the fool. When the one who just chooses to go against God's law of order
- 6:25and decency and justice.
- 6:27And so when we're looking at Proverbs, I think it's important that we have a
- 6:32very strong, because it's always a contrast between the wise and the foolish.
- 6:36And it comes down to the wise are following the ways of God and the commandments
- 6:42of Jesus, and the foolish are following their own ways, their own heart,
- 6:47their own lust, and going in their own way. Absolutely.
- 6:51And then last verse in the chapter, verse 35. The king's favor is toward a wise
- 6:56servant, but his wrath is against him that causeth shame.
- 7:01There's a lot of different things in this chapter, but I love that it starts out with wisdom.
- 7:08The first part of 14 says, Every wise woman buildeth her house,
- 7:13but the foolish plucketh it down with her hands.
- 7:15I think that wisdom is about building things up and not tearing things down.
- 7:21And I think that that can refer to many different things.
- 7:26We need to build up our house. And that could be our house. That can be our
- 7:31family. That can be our village.
- 7:33It can be our tabernacle. It can be our tabernacle. Like, wisdom is about building
- 7:37things up and not tearing things down.
- 7:40And I think it's important to note here, because Proverbs so often talks about
- 7:44our words, our words should be things that build the people up.
- 7:50When we're having conversations, our conversations should be about building
- 7:54people up and not tearing people down.
- 7:57And when you think about this in Proverbs 14, verse 2 says that you're to walk
- 8:04reverently and worshiply and fear the Lord.
- 8:08That's the person who walks in uprightness. And when you're thinking about building
- 8:12something, you're building something up.
- 8:14You're building something to stand, something that is above the ground,
- 8:20that's taller than the norm or taller than the problems underneath it.
- 8:27And so when we think about what he says, he's saying that those of us who know
- 8:34the Lord and are following after God and walking in the commandments of Jesus.
- 8:38We need to reverently and worshiply and in worship fear the Lord.
- 8:46And I think that verse three talks of says in the mouth of the foolish is a
- 8:50rod of pride, but the lips of the wise shall preserve them.
- 8:52So often our wisdom is displayed in our words, and those that don't have wisdom
- 9:00also display that in their words.
- 9:03And when you look at verses 1 and 2 about building people up and fearing the
- 9:10Lord and living uprightly, our words should reflect that.
- 9:15And I think it's so easy that with our words, we tear people down.
- 9:19Whether we're talking to them or talking about them, we have to realize that
- 9:24there is tremendous power in our words.
- 9:27And it's our job to build people up, whether we're, again, talking to someone
- 9:33or talking about someone to someone else.
- 9:36We need to ensure that our words are wise and that our words are building people
- 9:41up and doing something to draw people closer to what God would have them to be.
- 9:48I think when we get into verse 4, we start talking about work.
- 9:53And to me, you know, this proverb is about having a place where there's no oxen.
- 9:58And so your crib, right, your crib is clean, but you get a lot with an oxen.
- 10:04So I think to me that says, you know, work is messy, right?
- 10:09Even the Lord's work is often messy. But it's required.
- 10:14It's required. The crib that is clean offers them nothing, gives them no benefit,
- 10:19and in fact, is a problem.
- 10:21Right. If you have a clean crib, it means you've got no oxen and you're not
- 10:25doing anything with them. That's going to cause a mess.
- 10:29Because the oxen themselves, the work itself is going to be messy.
- 10:33And I think that's just true. I mean, it's not just true with farming.
- 10:36Right? It's true in our lives.
- 10:38The work for the Lord is often messy because humans are messy.
- 10:43But if we're not being
- 10:46in the mess and supporting the mess that
- 10:49is so many people's lives we're not doing the work of the lord which i think
- 10:53is a beautiful illustration if you read four and five together which four and
- 10:59five says where no oxen are the crib is clean but much increases by the strength
- 11:03of the ox a faithful witness will not lie but a false witness will utter lies.
- 11:08And I think what this is saying is when you are faithful to the Lord,
- 11:14your life shows the change he's made in it.
- 11:19And the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in you.
- 11:23Demonstrates and testifies that you are a newborn believer in Christ Jesus.
- 11:29And just like a clean crib lies that all is well and this is great and this is good,
- 11:37the truth will be seen in what you can see demonstrated and in front of you.
- 11:45And a clean crib in this analogy is one where there of slothfulness.
- 11:50Literally no work is getting done.
- 11:52But the messy work, the actual doing what you're asked to do,
- 11:58the wading through the things of the world,
- 12:01the perseverance and the absolute dependence upon Jesus, that is seen and your life will not lie.
- 12:09How you live says everything about who God is in your life.
- 12:16Absolutely. Our lives reflect what we think about God.
- 12:21Our lives will reflect the place that he has in our life.
- 12:27Verses six through nine really go together.
- 12:31They talk about how a scorner can't find wisdom, right?
- 12:37Somebody who is scornful, who is against the Lord is not going to find godly wisdom.
- 12:45But that verse goes on to say, knowledge is easy to him that has understanding.
- 12:50Our hearts have to be in the right place in order to learn wisdom.
- 12:54If we are scorning the Lord, if we are against the work of the Lord,
- 12:58we're not going to be able to gain wisdom and to gain understanding.
- 13:03And in verse 7, we're warned to go away from someone in this case that is foolish.
- 13:10If somebody is leading others away from the Lord, we ourselves need to go away.
- 13:17Because if we look at verse 8, the wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way.
- 13:23If we are thinking ahead and we are being prudent, we're using wisdom.
- 13:28But the second part of that verse talks about the folly of fools is deceit.
- 13:31We need to stay away from the things of the devil that are deceitful,
- 13:36and they're drawing us away from the Lord.
- 13:40Because you're not going to find anything that is beneficial in the presence
- 13:47of a foolish and self-confident person.
- 13:50You're not going to find any knowledge on their lips because they're leaning.
- 13:53To their own understanding, which
- 13:55Proverbs 3, 5, 6, and 7 have told us way earlier not to do that. Yeah.
- 14:00But godly wisdom helps us know how to walk in our purpose for God.
- 14:07And those who are seeking that, as you just said,
- 14:11have to separate themselves from the foolishness of the devil to set themselves
- 14:17apart and to be zealous of good works.
- 14:22I think verse 9 really defines foolishness as used in the book of Proverbs really well.
- 14:30It said, fools make a mock at sin, right? They mock sin. They don't think that sin is a problem.
- 14:37And it says, but among the righteous there is favor.
- 14:40Those that are mocking sin are what Proverbs would refer to as fools.
- 14:46They're mocking all sin.
- 14:47And so therefore they're not following after the things of the Lord.
- 14:51But those that are righteous, that are seeking the Lord and seeking His wisdom,
- 14:55His understanding, seeking to live a life that follows after Him, they will find favor.
- 15:00They are clearly, by definition here, not foolish, but those that have godly wisdom.
- 15:07And it's interesting because in this passage of Scripture that you were illuminating,
- 15:12there's a lot about the self-confident man.
- 15:15And the truth of the matter is that those who are self-confident and those who
- 15:22are mocking the sin, they really are sin's victims.
- 15:25They're the ones who have totally been taken prey by sin, yet they're the ones
- 15:31beating their chest and speaking loudly and, you know, getting out in front
- 15:35and presenting themselves as the all in all.
- 15:39When in reality, they truly are the ones that have been fully duped by the devil.
- 15:47Completely snookered by Satan, and are living a victim of the lifestyle they have chosen.
- 15:54Absolutely. Verse 10 changes direction a little bit and talks about the heart.
- 15:59There's two verses in this chapter that really talk about.
- 16:02The heart. And this one says, the heart knoweth his own bitterness,
- 16:05and a stranger doth not intermeddle with his joy.
- 16:09I think that what this is saying is that every heart is unique,
- 16:14and that we know our hearts.
- 16:18And in this case, the heart knows its own bitterness. It knows the pain that it's had in this life.
- 16:26And it says, a stranger doth not intermeddle with his joy. A stranger isn't
- 16:30going to know your heart.
- 16:32You know, our hearts are unique and precious, but our hearts are also where
- 16:36we get to spend time with the Lord, right?
- 16:39It's the heart, our true heart, where we have our full relationship with Him.
- 16:44And I also believe, in accordance to what you've just said, that the wicked
- 16:49heart, the heart that is bitter, doesn't share even in its own joy.
- 16:56There is no joy in the heart of a bitter person.
- 16:59And we all know that God came that we might have life and have it more abundantly
- 17:02and that there is joy in the presence of the Lord.
- 17:06But a bitter heart will lock themselves out of joy each and every time because
- 17:12you can't have the bitterness and the joy at the same time.
- 17:15So the heart is overtaken with bitterness and it doesn't share in the joy of
- 17:19the Lord, even in a beautiful sunset or a sunrise. Absolutely.
- 17:24In verse 11, there's a really neat contrast and it says, the house of the wicked
- 17:28shall be overthrown, but the tabernacle of the upright shall flourish.
- 17:32And that sets up this contrast like so many times in Proverbs where you have
- 17:37the wicked and you have the upright.
- 17:40But I think it's interesting that the wicked have a house, right? The wicked have a house.
- 17:45But the upright have a tabernacle because as we as believers have the indwelling
- 17:54of the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament, the tabernacle was where the presence of God actually was.
- 18:00So we as believers, as the upright in Christ, we have a tabernacle and we have
- 18:07verses that talk up in the Bible that talk about our earthly tabernacle, right?
- 18:11We have a tabernacle. I have the presence of God in me. I don't just have a house, right?
- 18:16I have a tabernacle because I am a tabernacle because I've got the presence
- 18:21of the Holy Spirit in my life. I love that verse.
- 18:23I love that one. I love verse 12, which says, there is a way which seemeth right
- 18:27unto man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
- 18:29And this is the culmination of what we've been speaking about in this chapter.
- 18:34The self-confidence, the self-reliance, the puffed up pride.
- 18:40These are all things that are gonna take you down. and
- 18:43they're all things that that are stepping stones the
- 18:46devil is putting in your in your path not
- 18:50for your glory and not for your good or to raise you
- 18:53up but to sink you further and further and further in his control in his misery
- 18:59and to remove you from any inclination you might have to be joyful in the Lord
- 19:09and to sing his praises and to worship.
- 19:12But we don't set out to be that person. Nobody ever says in first grade when
- 19:18you're asked, what do you want to be?
- 19:20I want to be in prison for life. No one says that.
- 19:24But each step leads us further and further away from God when we are becoming
- 19:30more and more and reliant on ourselves.
- 19:32And so we must have a checkpoint in our lives? How are we making our decisions?
- 19:37What are we doing to make sure we're on the right path?
- 19:43Are we consulting the Lord? Do we know his word?
- 19:47Are we relying fully upon him? I want to talk about 13 for a minute,
- 19:51but 14 really follows what you just said.
- 19:54But 13, I think, really connects with verse 10.
- 19:58Verse 10, we talked about the heart. Verse 13 talks about, even in laughter,
- 20:03the heart is sorrowful and the end of that mirth is heaviness.
- 20:06I think that says to us, you know, we can have multiple emotions at once.
- 20:11We can have things that are going on in our life and still have joy.
- 20:16We can have circumstances in our lives that are heavy and still laugh when something happens.
- 20:23You know, I think that we don't need to think that we have to,
- 20:27you know, only have one emotion at a time or anything like that,
- 20:31but we can have all of these emotions.
- 20:33Emotions and understand that our emotions need to be driven by that earthly
- 20:39joy that we have in Jesus, right?
- 20:41We can have events and things that make us sad, but underlying all of that,
- 20:46undergirding all of that is joy, and it's the joy of the presence of God in our life.
- 20:52So 14 says, the backslider in heart shall be filled with his own ways,
- 20:56and the good man should be satisfied from himself.
- 21:00So when somebody takes these steps and continually takes these steps away from
- 21:06God and believes the lies of the devil and stops fearing God,
- 21:13then you get what you ask for.
- 21:16You reap what you sow. So you're going to be filled with the fruit of your own
- 21:21ways and those are going to lead to destruction.
- 21:24But scripture tells us that a good man is satisfied.
- 21:30If you recall in John chapter four, the woman at the well, when she drank of
- 21:35that water, he said, you would never thirst again.
- 21:37When you're in the presence of the Lord, you have everything you need,
- 21:40want, desire, and could even think of.
- 21:42And so we need to realize that when we are following after the Lord and we have
- 21:49holy thoughts and holy actions,
- 21:51then our heart is going to prompt us to be joyful and we are going to share
- 21:56in the delight of the Lord.
- 21:58It matters how we think. It matters who we follow.
- 22:01And it desperately matters who we allow to speak into our life.
- 22:06And I think that next verse really speaks to who we allow to speak into our life.
- 22:13Because 15 says the symbol believeth every word. If we believed every word that
- 22:19we heard, we would be in a jam.
- 22:21We would be in a mess because we would be listening to words that are influenced by the devil, right?
- 22:28That are influenced by the world and by things that we as believers don't need to be listening to.
- 22:34But the second part of 15 says, but the prudent man looketh well to his going.
- 22:39A prudent man has forethought. A prudent man looks at where he's going,
- 22:45consults the Lord for where he should be going, and then keeps moving.
- 22:51And measures the information he's using as to where it's coming from. Absolutely.
- 22:57We need to use God's Word as a lens for how we look at our lives and as a lens
- 23:05for the things that we listen to.
- 23:08I believe that this was in our previous podcast that was on Monday,
- 23:12but God's word is to be the lens. It's to be the filter.
- 23:17It's to be what we compare everything to.
- 23:21That's why we have it.
- 23:23We have it to be the authority that we use to make decisions in our lives.
- 23:28And if something doesn't match up to God's word, then it's not something that
- 23:32we need to be doing or partaking in.
- 23:35If we look at these next two verses, and I think we're going to only do through
- 23:40verse 17 in this podcast because there's just been so much in here.
- 23:44But let's look at 16 and 17.
- 23:4716 and 17 together say.
- 23:58Dealeth foolishly, and a man of wicked devices is hated. I think both these
- 24:03verses just talk about our tempers.
- 24:06How wickedly do we become angry?
- 24:10We don't want to be people that are quick to anger.
- 24:16We want to be slow to anger.
- 24:20We want to take in what we see, take in what's happening, and again,
- 24:24filter that through God's word, and then respond according to God's word.
- 24:31But if we fly mad, we're probably not going to do that. Because a wise man's
- 24:35going to suspect danger.
- 24:37There's going to be red flags. They're going to be watching,
- 24:39and they're going to cautiously avoid evil. That's going to be something that's in their purpose.
- 24:45But an unwise man, a foolish man, they're just insolent, and they're just presumptually confident.
- 24:52And if they believe it, that's how it is. If they say it, it's gospel,
- 24:56and the next thing you know, they are sliding treacherously downhill.
- 25:01And I love that the Lord says, we are to be still and know that he is God in Psalms 46.10.
- 25:11Because, Erica, that's what he's saying here.
- 25:14Wise people are still, and they bring Jesus into all things.
- 25:20Well, this has been an amazing time of looking at the first half of Proverbs
- 25:26chapter 14, and we hope that you will join us for the second half.
- 25:30But it's important to really begin to allow this consistent,
- 25:37constant theme of there's a difference between good and evil,
- 25:41between wise and foolish,
- 25:43between those who follow and those who don't, and a big difference between those
- 25:49whom the Holy Spirit dwells. It is our prayer that you know Him.
- 25:53It is our hope that you walk with Him. And remember you are loved. Jesus loves you.
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