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Bethenny Frankel and Questionable Celebrity Retreat with Josh Wolf. · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well,
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Speaker 2: I had a very juicy, exciting last 24 hours or so.
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Speaker 2: For those of you that listened to the show Tuesday,
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Speaker 2: I had the hilarious Justin on and I kind of
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Speaker 2: did this weird thing to protect myself because I didn't
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Speaker 2: want to out and out say what was going on
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Speaker 2: with Bethany Frankel and Meredith Lynch because the truth is
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Speaker 2: the bee scares me too. And now I will explain
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Speaker 2: the story of what happened. Meredith Lynch is a really
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Speaker 2: great creator on TikTok that I've been following for a while.
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Speaker 2: And in fact, we've DMed a couple times on Instagram
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Speaker 2: when I've been like, I like your stuff. So I
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Speaker 2: followed her and I see that she does this post.
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Speaker 2: where she says a certain, you know, Real Housewives of
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Speaker 2: New York has sent her cease and desist letters. Very
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Speaker 2: obvious it was Bethany. And I reached out and I'm like,
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Speaker 2: what is this about? So we talked on the phone
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Speaker 2: and I was like, holy shit, this is really disturbing.
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Speaker 2: Because I watched all of these, anything, anytime she mentioned Bethany,
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Speaker 2: and it was her discussing things that are a public record,
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Speaker 2: like things that Bethany has trademarked and stuff. And she
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Speaker 2: brought up those trademarks like it's a scam to just say,
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Speaker 2: you know, oftentimes celebrities come on here and everybody wants
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Speaker 2: an origin or, oh, this was such an organic situation
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Speaker 2: that happened where she, Bethany, is famous now for trying
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Speaker 2: all these different kind of makeup products from the most
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Speaker 2: expensive to the least expensive. And she'd be like, this,
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Speaker 2: this is a scam. And so Meredith was just bringing
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Speaker 2: that up. She also brought up other things about her
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Speaker 2: Skinny Girl food products. And that, you know, Skinny Girl product,
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Speaker 2: Skinny Girl in general, is to change your body, change
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Speaker 2: the way you look, whether it's a shapewear or whatever,
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Speaker 2: which again, makes Bethany quite hypocritical to constantly be criticizing
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Speaker 2: people like the Kardashians for the fact where she's like,
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Speaker 2: when is it enough? How many more products do you need?
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Speaker 2: When are you rich enough? When are you skinny enough? When,
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Speaker 2: you know, you're, you're just morphing your body. You're bad
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Speaker 2: for people like my daughter. When she created a whole
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Speaker 2: business telling you that you're skinny. She also hates cheater brands.
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Speaker 2: Remember how mean she was to Sonia when Sonia wanted
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Speaker 2: tipsy girl? She, that's what she does. And I've always
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Speaker 2: thought she was a hypocrite. That's my opinion. I think
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Speaker 2: that is hypocritical behavior. I saw– nobody else saw that
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Speaker 2: in the world. It didn't appear to be. So let
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Speaker 2: her go on with her things. Page Six wrote about
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Speaker 2: her at least twice to three times a week. Thought
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Speaker 2: that was weird, but they do the same for Megyn Kelly. Whatever.
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Speaker 2: Who cares? So I just– but I'm still following her. Listen,
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Speaker 2: I think Bethany Frankel is smart. I think she's funny.
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed her on the show. I think she's a hustler.
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Speaker 2: I also think she is completely out of touch. I
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Speaker 2: think she's an elitist, and I think she's a bully,
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Speaker 2: and I think she does not support women– Or anyone
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Speaker 2: that's remotely like her or coming up the ranks, okay?
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Speaker 2: She goes after people that she feels is too much
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Speaker 2: like her and is a threat. That's my opinion. So anyway,
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Speaker 2: I was like, wow, this really sucks. You know, as
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Speaker 2: someone who has had to fight for my right of
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Speaker 2: my First Amendment right in this medium of podcasting and
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Speaker 2: a very horrible lawsuit in which I prevailed, I have
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Speaker 2: a lot of sympathy for anybody that all of a
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Speaker 2: sudden gets hit with that. I mean, it's debilitating for me.
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Speaker 2: When you're at a level of just a normal person
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Speaker 2: who is just trying to do your videos in which
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Speaker 2: she puts a lot of thought into them, and then
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Speaker 2: you get a scary letter from an attorney saying, take
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Speaker 2: those things down or you're going to get in a
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Speaker 2: lot of trouble. It's terrifying. And a lot of people
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Speaker 2: suing and throwing legal threats around is really fun for them.
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Speaker 2: It's a game. It doesn't matter because they have money.
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Speaker 2: They can spend $ 60, 000 here or there on attorneys. Other people,
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Speaker 2: it is horrible. For me, it was absolutely horrible. So
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Speaker 2: I really felt for her. And I was like, this
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Speaker 2: is bullshit because if bigger celebrities coming on TikTok, which
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Speaker 2: a lot of them are, a new one every day,
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Speaker 2: is going to then threaten, you know, creators with a
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Speaker 2: smaller audience and a much smaller bank account to say,
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Speaker 2: you can't say anything about me. Don't even put my
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Speaker 2: name in your mouth. You know, it's like, oh my God,
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Speaker 2: I think we all feel what it's like to have
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Speaker 2: been a cast member on The Real Housewives of New
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Speaker 2: York City with Bethany Frankel. That's the way these creators
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Speaker 2: were felt. Meredith is not the only one that I've
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Speaker 2: heard that has received these letters. And she does have
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Speaker 2: a team of lawyers. Bethany does. So anyway, I kind
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Speaker 2: of put it in that weird parody about a girl...
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Speaker 2: trying different mustards at different stores. And I thought it
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Speaker 2: was so clever, but there was a part of me
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Speaker 2: that was like, I think a lot of people are
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Speaker 2: going to be confused by this. I think this might
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Speaker 2: be too much to follow. And when I listened back
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Speaker 2: to it, I'm like, I don't know if this landed.
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Speaker 2: Then I saw more and more people were talking about
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Speaker 2: it and they were just as angry as I was
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Speaker 2: and thinking this is really, really not right. And this
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Speaker 2: is legal bullying and it's not fair. And also Meredith
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Speaker 2: said nothing wrong.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm going to mention it all. So
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Speaker 2: I do my video and we put it on TikTok and, um,
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Speaker 2: finally page six picked it up, but that's after, uh,
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Speaker 2: about 24, no, not 20, about 12 or 13 hours
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Speaker 2: after I did the video, Daily Mail wrote about it.
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Speaker 2: And then I was like, so weird that page six
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Speaker 2: who writes about Bethany Frankel literally every day is not
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Speaker 2: writing about this. Well, it's because the tides have turned.
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Speaker 2: There are still people that are pro Bethany, but Anybody
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Speaker 2: that follows the entire story with a level of intelligence,
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Speaker 2: even though she likes to call everybody else a dum-dum,
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Speaker 2: saw the hypocrisy of Bethany's actions. Like I said, she's
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Speaker 2: a smart, funny girl. I find her entertaining, but she
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Speaker 2: is very hypocritical in sending the cease and desist out.
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Speaker 2: That's what it's about. This has nothing to do with
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Speaker 2: my opinion of her suing TikTok. However, I think that's
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Speaker 2: pretty ironic when you're running around saying, I got a
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Speaker 2: million followers on TikTok, literally the day after you sue TikTok,
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Speaker 2: saying that TikTok should make sure that no one takes
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Speaker 2: your image. And it's all just really petty. And it
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Speaker 2: just doesn't feel right. And it doesn't read authentic. And
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Speaker 2: so then always the thing that she goes to is,
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Speaker 2: how dare you? I help people in crisis with her charity.
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Speaker 2: And so sure enough, she puts out a TikTok, which
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Speaker 2: she comes off real fucking bitchy, like hardcore, Real Housewives
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Speaker 2: of New York, like terrifying, you know, Bethany, where she's
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Speaker 2: talking and she's like, fuck yeah, I have a team
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Speaker 2: of lawyers and I will unleash them. So if you're
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Speaker 2: ready to take a shot at this beat, you better
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Speaker 2: have a good aim. And I mean, really like scary.
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Speaker 2: Like I was shooketh just watching it. Well, somebody got
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Speaker 2: a hold of her and was like, hey, take it down.
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Speaker 2: This isn't good. And she adds on that, yeah, you
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Speaker 2: will get a cease and desist if you talk about
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Speaker 2: my charity where I help people. Well, that is not
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Speaker 2: what this was about. And again, if someone wants to
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Speaker 2: talk about your charity, they freaking can. It's a free country.
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Speaker 2: If they say, I don't think it's great or where's
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Speaker 2: Be Strong in Florida, people have a right to ask
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Speaker 2: a question. People could talk about things. Okay. So But
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Speaker 2: it's that kind of thing where literally I felt it,
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Speaker 2: which is why I did the weird mustard parody instead
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Speaker 2: of just saying what I'm saying right now. I was
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Speaker 2: literally scared of Bethany, too. Really fucking rich people. and
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Speaker 2: who were rich when they were born, and were rich
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Speaker 2: their whole life. She acts like she was, you know, starving,
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Speaker 2: making the Bethany Bakes. At that time, she was. But
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Speaker 2: for a long time, she's been really fucking rich with
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Speaker 2: her 1%. And I love a good 1%, or I do.
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Speaker 2: But not when they throw their dick around, and that's
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Speaker 2: what she was doing. She was throwing her legal dick
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Speaker 2: around in her power and trying to intimidate people. And
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Speaker 2: so that is what this is about. Because I love this.
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Speaker 2: I constantly say we're in a new media where people
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Speaker 2: don't have to depend on some guy at NBC to say, yes,
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Speaker 2: you're talented like I did. I love it. And I
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Speaker 2: also respect the younger people that are fighting really, really
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Speaker 2: hard to have their place in media on social media platforms.
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Speaker 2: And I love it. And I don't want them ever
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Speaker 2: to shut up. I get so much information from them.
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Speaker 2: I love it. I love sharing it. I love promoting them.
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Speaker 2: I love having them on my show. And that is
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Speaker 2: what really pissed me off because someone that's always talking
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Speaker 2: about supporting women and helping people, helping people in crisis.
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Speaker 2: Why don't you help some women that are trying to
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Speaker 2: come up? Why aren't you helping them? Why are you
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Speaker 2: shitting on all these female-owned beauty products and thinking that
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Speaker 2: that's okay? Yet when someone wants to just question or
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Speaker 2: bring up interesting facts, they're not allowed. So that's the
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Speaker 2: whole story. And Page Six finally wrote about it after
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Speaker 2: I literally tagged them and was like, why are you
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Speaker 2: not talking about it today? You talk about the chick
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Speaker 2: every day. I don't care about getting in page six.
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Speaker 2: Like I said, I didn't even want to say hurt.
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Speaker 2: I didn't even want to talk about this, but I did.
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Speaker 2: So the people that say, Heather, you're an old thirsty bitch. Look,
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Speaker 2: have I ever denied it? Have I ever denied that? No,
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Speaker 2: but my intention was not to get in page six.
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Speaker 2: My intention is to tell people. more powerful people, celebrities,
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Speaker 2: that they cannot send cease and desist to other people.
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Speaker 2: Because if it gets to a place that we're all afraid,
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Speaker 2: all of us are going to lose. And all of
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Speaker 2: us are not going to be able to speak our mind.
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Speaker 2: And we're not going to be able to have our businesses.
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Speaker 2: And we're not going to be able to profit off
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Speaker 2: this platform and entertain. And it's just not right. And
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Speaker 2: it's just not fair. And it's not cool. And I
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Speaker 2: don't like it. So there you go with that. Sad
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Speaker 2: news or not, Cynthia Bailey is divorcing her third husband,
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Speaker 2: Mike Hill, after two years of marriage. I saw a post,
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Speaker 2: and I don't even know if it's real, if it's
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Speaker 2: fake news or not, but I saw a post, I
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Speaker 2: believe it was last night, before this was announced, from
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Speaker 2: Countess Luann saying, guess who's moving to New York? You're
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Speaker 2: going to find out at BravoCon. Okay, I hope, this
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Speaker 2: is a prediction that I hope for because I think
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Speaker 2: it would be brilliant. I got to hang out with
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Speaker 2: Cynthia for a really long time when we did that
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Speaker 2: show in Ireland, Name That Tune. She's cool as shit.
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Speaker 2: She's funnier than you've ever seen on Atlanta. Like she's
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Speaker 2: so dry. I think she would do absolutely terrific with
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Speaker 2: the OGs in New York. I would love to see
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Speaker 2: her with Ramona and Luann and Sonia and bring back
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Speaker 2: to Rinda. I don't know. It could be really freaking good.
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Speaker 2: And I think she'd fit in beautifully like Garcelle. She's,
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Speaker 2: you know... She just has a way about her where
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Speaker 2: I feel she can get along with everybody, but she
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Speaker 2: But too bad the marriage didn't work out. But I
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Speaker 2: think there's bright things ahead for Cynthia, and I really,
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Speaker 2: now for our interview with Josh Wolfe. Hello, and welcome
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Speaker 2: to Juicy Scoop. I've got a fun treat for you,
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Speaker 2: hilarious comedian and return Juicy Scooper, fellow co-star with me
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Speaker 2: on Chelsea Lately, Josh Wolfe. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
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Speaker 4: I want to tell you something. This is the first
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Speaker 4: time you've ever said my last name and not said Wolfe.
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Speaker 2: How did I say it?
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Speaker 4: You said wolf.
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Speaker 2: Instead of woof. You know I have a problem. Now
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Speaker 2: that I've diagnosed myself.
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Speaker 4: Have you?
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Speaker 2: Yes. With a phonics problem. I did it so that
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Speaker 2: people would stop criticizing me. Because once you tell someone
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Speaker 2: that you have something... You're not allowed to mention it anymore.
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Speaker 2: No one can criticize it. And I definitely do think
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Speaker 2: I might have something.
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Speaker 4: But this is very.
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Speaker 2: I have a very hard time pronouncing certain stuff. And, like,
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Speaker 2: I remember Chelsea used to say, stop saying... Because I'd
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Speaker 2: say bathing suit. Like, almost with a D. And she's like,
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Speaker 2: it's bathing suit.
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Speaker 4: And you would say.
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Speaker 2: Bathing suit.
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Speaker 4: Bathing suit. I will tell you.
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Speaker 2: Certain things like that. And as a little kid... I
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Speaker 2: remember my mom took me to a, this is going
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Speaker 2: to make people really feel bad. I think I went
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Speaker 2: to like a speech therapist on top of it.
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Speaker 4: You did?
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Speaker 2: And I spoke, I didn't speak for a really long
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Speaker 2: time because I was the youngest of five. So I
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Speaker 2: would just point and people would get me stuff. And
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Speaker 2: then I remember being like, trying to say spoon and
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Speaker 2: it coming out like poon and being young enough to
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Speaker 2: be like, okay, what the fuck's wrong with you, girl?
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Speaker 2: Like I remember being like, why can't you say spoon?
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Speaker 2: And then she took me to the therapist and look
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Speaker 2: at me now. I talk for a living, but I
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Speaker 2: make a lot of, pronunciation mistakes.
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Speaker 4: Well, a little girl who says poon instead of spoon
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Speaker 4: is fun at parties. But you know what's crazy is
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Speaker 4: I hadn't thought of that. If there's anything wrong that
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Speaker 4: you consider to be wrong with you, if you say
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Speaker 4: it out loud in today's day and age, nobody's allowed
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Speaker 4: to criticize you after that. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people do it to, like, you know,
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Speaker 2: get their fans back. Like, I know I was awful
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Speaker 2: for three years, but let me tell you, something horrible
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Speaker 2: happened to me when I was a child. I wrote
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Speaker 2: a book about it, read it, feel bad, now like
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Speaker 2: me again. It really is.
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Speaker 4: It's a good get out of jail free card.
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Speaker 2: So I was like, you know, I've been pretty fortunate
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Speaker 2: in my life.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I do remember my mom took me to a
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Speaker 2: speech person when I was about three. Oh, also, my
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Speaker 2: mom put those... Those little shoes that had a bar.
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Speaker 4: She bound your feet?
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Speaker 2: No, it was little baby shoes with a bar across it.
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Speaker 2: And I used to sleep in that because I think, listen.
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Speaker 4: Wait, Heather, what are you even referring to? Shoes with
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Speaker 4: a bar that attached to shoes?
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Speaker 2: I think this might have been a scam in the
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Speaker 2: 70s where doctors would say, you know how so many
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Speaker 2: babies are bow-legged? When they're walking and you see them
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Speaker 2: and you're like, that's a bow-legged baby? Yeah. Well, I
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Speaker 2: guess back in the day, doctors would be like, you
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Speaker 2: got to fix that. Like, if your daughter's ever going
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Speaker 2: to make it in this world, she can't have this
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Speaker 2: fucking– I don't know what happened. My mom's not here
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Speaker 2: to tell. So I remember being, like, older and going
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Speaker 2: through some stuff. And I'm like, what the fuck is this?
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Speaker 2: And it was two little baby shoes with a silver
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Speaker 2: metal bar across it. And she goes, oh, those are
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Speaker 2: the shoes you used to wear at night in the
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Speaker 2: crib to like straighten out your legs. I do have
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Speaker 2: to say I do have good legs.
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Speaker 4: You do have great legs.
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Speaker 2: And I still have the three triangles when you put
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Speaker 2: your legs together. You have three triangles.
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Speaker 4: You think that's from the Forrest Gump bar that your
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Speaker 4: mom– Yes.
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Speaker 2: Run, Heather, run.
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Speaker 3: It's a– yes.
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Speaker 2: So– But I look back now and I go, well,
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Speaker 2: why isn't anybody doing that with their kid today? I
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Speaker 2: think it was a scam. I don't think it was necessary.
17:52
Speaker 2: And I think that we got tricked into that.
17:54
Speaker 4: I've never even heard of that.
17:56
Speaker 2: So this is the saddest part. She goes, oh, and
17:58
Speaker 2: then when you'd wake up, you would throw your legs
18:02
Speaker 2: against the crib to like wake up the whole house.
18:06
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, because I was like bound. Like
18:09
Speaker 2: how fun. Like I can't stand up like a cute kid.
18:11
Speaker 2: Like the cutest thing is when I would walk into
18:14
Speaker 2: my kid's room and they'd be standing at the crib
18:16
Speaker 2: like it's a Christmas morning every day. Well, I wasn't
18:19
Speaker 2: that because I was laid down with a bar.
18:23
Speaker 4: Now, is the bar better or worse than the leash
18:26
Speaker 4: that I see some people put on their kids?
18:29
Speaker 2: I don't see that much of that anymore. I know
18:33
Speaker 2: it really is disturbing to everybody else except for the
18:36
Speaker 2: kid and the parent. Because they really only do it
18:39
Speaker 2: when they're really little. And I feel like they only
18:41
Speaker 2: do it at like a Disneyland party. But I never
18:45
Speaker 2: lost a child at Disneyland, but I found one.
18:47
Speaker 4: Oh, really?
18:48
Speaker 2: And that was one of the best days of my life.
18:50
Speaker 4: What did you do when you find a child?
18:54
Speaker 2: I comforted him. He was crying. And then I had
18:58
Speaker 2: my daughter, Mackenzie, go get a security guard. And I
19:01
Speaker 2: talked to him and everything, and I got him to
19:03
Speaker 2: calm down. And then I realized how easy it would
19:06
Speaker 2: be for me to kidnap him right there. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
19:11
Speaker 4: Cause they're dumb.
19:12
Speaker 2: Cause they're dumb. They're like, he was like three and
19:14
Speaker 2: a half. And I'm like, did you, did you fly here?
19:16
Speaker 2: Did you drive here? We drove here, you know? So
19:19
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, did you, who else are you with?
19:21
Speaker 2: Are you with lots of family? No, just my mom.
19:24
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay. Um, so I'm like, there's only one.
19:27
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, you know, so I'm like, at this
19:29
Speaker 2: point I could be like, oh, I know your mommy.
19:33
Speaker 4: Yeah.
19:34
Speaker 2: Oh, your mommy just called. Come with me. We're going
19:36
Speaker 2: to go to where she is. Cause he was already
19:39
Speaker 2: holding my hand. And then I could have walked him
19:42
Speaker 2: out of the Disneyland, put him in my car, said,
19:44
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take your mommy and then that was it
19:47
Speaker 2: the car is beautiful where did you end up going
19:50
Speaker 2: for it.
19:50
Speaker 5: This exclusive place that dad has connections with they have
19:53
Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
19:56
Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch what's it called.
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Speaker 5: It's Dune ADL where Dune ADL there's an accent on
20:04
Speaker 5: the E do you mean yes I got it on
20:07
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20:08
Speaker 2: Lift please You going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
20:12
Speaker 5: No. Done deal cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
20:17
Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next.
20:20
Speaker 6: Each week on the show, I sit down with extraordinary
20:22
Speaker 6: people who have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have
20:27
Speaker 6: found a way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
20:30
Speaker 5: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
20:33
Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints
20:36
Speaker 2: filed against me.
20:37
Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
20:39
Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
20:41
Speaker 6: Where did that need come from where you thought that
20:44
Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
20:47
Speaker 4: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
20:48
Speaker 4: home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
20:51
Speaker 4: started crying. Everybody in life encounters hardships.
20:54
Speaker 6: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
20:57
Speaker 6: go through.
20:58
Speaker 4: It's about what happens next.
21:00
Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
21:03
Speaker 2: every day was. You're worth the work.
21:04
Speaker 4: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
21:06
Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
21:09
Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
21:12
Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
21:22
Speaker 4: Tell you jacob wolf when he was that's your son
21:25
Speaker 4: yes i'm sorry when he was like nine or ten
21:28
Speaker 4: he was in the driveway shooting basketballs and i hear
21:32
Speaker 4: him talking to somebody so i walk out and as
21:35
Speaker 4: i'm walking out i see a dude in the driveway
21:37
Speaker 4: the backpack kind of disheveled looking guy and he sees
21:40
Speaker 4: me and he grabs the backpack and he goes all
21:41
Speaker 4: right jacob and jacob goes okay greg And he walks
21:46
Speaker 4: back up the driveway. Now, with the casualness of that exchange,
21:50
Speaker 4: I assumed, oh, this is a dude who lives on
21:52
Speaker 4: the street.
21:52
Speaker 2: Jacob walked up, back up to the house.
21:54
Speaker 4: Walked up to the house and the guy walked down, right?
21:55
Speaker 2: Okay.
21:56
Speaker 4: And so I'm like, oh, this is a guy. Yeah.
21:58
Speaker 4: And so he passed me the ball and I go,
22:01
Speaker 4: where's Greg live? He was like, I don't know. I go,
22:03
Speaker 4: he doesn't live on the street? He goes, no. I go,
22:05
Speaker 4: do you know him? He goes, well, I just met him.
22:08
Speaker 4: I said, what? He goes, yeah, he was walking by
22:10
Speaker 4: and he asked if I could shoot. He asked if
22:12
Speaker 4: he could shoot with me. And I said, sure. And
22:14
Speaker 4: I go, Jacob. What were you guys talking about? He goes, well,
22:16
Speaker 4: I told him that you were a comedian and you
22:18
Speaker 4: traveled a lot.
22:19
Speaker 2: Let me guess. He also is a comedian.
22:22
Speaker 4: No, he's not. He goes, I told him you were
22:25
Speaker 4: a comedian. You traveled a lot. And then I used
22:27
Speaker 4: to have a dog. It was a half pit, half boxer.
22:29
Speaker 4: And the reason I loved him is because he looked scary,
22:32
Speaker 4: but he was, he was scared of squirrels and shit.
22:34
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
22:35
Speaker 4: So, and he would be, he was so scared that
22:37
Speaker 4: he would stand still and pretend like you couldn't see him,
22:40
Speaker 4: but people actually thought he was staring you down. So
22:42
Speaker 4: the guy said to him, Jacob, your dog's staring me down.
22:45
Speaker 4: And Jacob goes, he's actually really scared of you. You
22:47
Speaker 4: could walk right up to the fence and he'd run away.
22:49
Speaker 2: Great.
22:49
Speaker 4: This fucking dummy.
22:51
Speaker 2: So my dad's never around.
22:53
Speaker 4: It's just me and my mom on the weekends and
22:55
Speaker 4: the dog doesn't do anything. And then he lets the
22:57
Speaker 4: guy walk away. And I was like, have I not?
23:00
Speaker 4: I go, what did I tell you about strangers? He goes,
23:02
Speaker 4: he's not a stranger. He's Greg. And I was like, oh.
23:07
Speaker 2: Did he ever come around again?
23:09
Speaker 4: Not that I know of.
23:09
Speaker 2: Yeah.
23:10
Speaker 4: Not that I know of. But like... You know, it
23:13
Speaker 4: just reminded me that no matter how much you teach
23:15
Speaker 4: your kids, they're dumb. I don't say that in a
23:19
Speaker 4: bad way. You know what I mean? But they're not.
23:21
Speaker 4: They're dumb. They're kids.
23:22
Speaker 2: Well, I was walking home from school, which is in
23:25
Speaker 2: the same area as this. Did you used to be.
23:28
Speaker 4: Able to walk around by yourself out here? Always.
23:30
Speaker 2: Riding my bike and everything. I was walking home. I've
23:33
Speaker 2: told this story before. Who cares? If you remember, then
23:35
Speaker 2: you were a gold star. Jesus Cooper. And I was
23:37
Speaker 2: walking home and I got mad at my sister. She
23:40
Speaker 2: annoyed me. So I walked ahead of her. And and
23:44
Speaker 2: this car drove up and it was a guy and
23:47
Speaker 2: he was like, roll down the window and he goes,
23:50
Speaker 2: do you know where like Dumette Street is or something?
23:54
Speaker 2: And I was so proud because being that I'm a
23:57
Speaker 2: child of realtors, I knew where every fucking street was.
24:01
Speaker 2: I delivered pumpkins there during Halloween. I solicited my parents
24:04
Speaker 2: all the time.
24:05
Speaker 4: Right.
24:05
Speaker 2: Family visits. So I'm like, oh, of course. All you
24:08
Speaker 2: do is go down wells and make a left and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
24:11
Speaker 2: And then he goes, what about this? And then he
24:13
Speaker 2: just shows me his naked dick. And I go, I
24:19
Speaker 2: was definitely in the fourth grade. I was nine. And
24:23
Speaker 2: so I cover my eyes.
24:24
Speaker 4: You were like, that's not on Dumat Street.
24:26
Speaker 2: And I go, oh, my God. So I don't know
24:29
Speaker 2: if I told Shannon. I may have. But little kids
24:32
Speaker 2: also never want to tell anything, right? Yeah. So then
24:34
Speaker 2: I get home and... I'm acting really weird and everything.
24:38
Speaker 2: And my mom was like, what's wrong? What's wrong? And
24:40
Speaker 2: so then finally, like hours later, I tell her and
24:44
Speaker 2: they're like, oh my God, like police are over that minute.
24:48
Speaker 2: And my brothers are getting out car magazines and being like,
24:51
Speaker 2: what kind of car was it? Like they're detectives. They're like,
24:54
Speaker 2: what kind? Show me the car. I'm like, I don't know.
24:56
Speaker 2: And then they're like, what was he wearing? I'm like,
24:58
Speaker 2: I don't know. And I remember I said overalls. And
25:01
Speaker 2: then later on, I thought, Well, how would you whip
25:03
Speaker 2: your dick out of overalls?
25:04
Speaker 6: Yeah.
25:04
Speaker 2: And that's where I think like kids aren't a good witness,
25:07
Speaker 2: which is unfortunate because it's like, that's where it's like
25:11
Speaker 2: the stories and your mind.
25:12
Speaker 4: Haven't you read, there's been studies where they send groups
25:16
Speaker 4: of people up a hill at night and then somebody
25:20
Speaker 4: jumps out and scares them. And some people recall, they'll
25:24
Speaker 4: come down and interview and say what happened.
25:25
Speaker 6: Right.
25:26
Speaker 4: And some people were like, he had a knife in
25:27
Speaker 4: his hand. He didn't have a knife in his hand.
25:29
Speaker 4: And some people were like, well, he had a gun.
25:30
Speaker 4: He took out a gun. I saw the gun. It
25:31
Speaker 4: was pointing at us.
25:32
Speaker 2: He didn't.
25:33
Speaker 4: But during traumatic times, your brain doesn't always remember exactly
25:39
Speaker 4: what happened. It's a crazy thing to read.
25:41
Speaker 2: Or there's this whole, like, people think it's like an
25:43
Speaker 2: alternative universe or something, where people say, do you remember
25:46
Speaker 2: seeing Ed McMahon hold the million dollar prize?
25:49
Speaker 4: Right, right.
25:50
Speaker 2: And then they've proven that he was the host of
25:53
Speaker 2: the commercials, but he never held... The big check.
25:57
Speaker 4: But in your brain.
25:58
Speaker 2: In your brain and your memory. And there's like certain
26:00
Speaker 2: things with like cartoon characters and serial and stuff where
26:03
Speaker 2: they're like, do you see him with or the Monopoly man?
26:06
Speaker 2: Did the Monopoly man have something.
26:09
Speaker 4: In his hand or a monocle?
26:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he really didn't or something like that. It's
26:13
Speaker 2: like very, very weird. But anyway, later on, the police
26:16
Speaker 2: officers told me if this ever happens again, the best
26:19
Speaker 2: thing you can do. is memorize or write down the
26:22
Speaker 2: license plate, or even if you remember the beginning or
26:25
Speaker 2: the end of it, that's the most important thing. We'll
26:27
Speaker 2: always be able to find a bad guy if we
26:28
Speaker 2: have the license plate.
26:29
Speaker 4: Heather.
26:30
Speaker 2: So wait, the story gets better. About a month later,
26:34
Speaker 2: I'm playing volleyball at my school at St. Mel's. Now
26:37
Speaker 2: there's grass that covers this chain link fence. But at
26:40
Speaker 2: the time, it was a clear chain link fence and
26:42
Speaker 2: a car could drive. You could see that your mom
26:44
Speaker 2: was there or whatever. And these girls are like, imagine,
26:48
Speaker 2: nine-year-olds in... parochial school outfits playing volleyball. So this was
26:53
Speaker 2: a pedophile's fucking dream.
26:58
Speaker 4: Just standing at the fence.
26:59
Speaker 2: So he was in his car. But the concrete was above.
27:06
Speaker 2: So you could look down into his car. And he
27:10
Speaker 2: was there stroking it out. And so these girls are like, oh,
27:14
Speaker 2: my God, look. Like, they're freaking out. And I immediately
27:17
Speaker 2: was like, give me a paper and pencil, Liz. And
27:21
Speaker 2: I wrote down, like, I drew it. I wrote down
27:24
Speaker 2: the thing. And then we all get called into the office.
27:27
Speaker 2: The principal is like, okay, what happened? And I go,
27:30
Speaker 2: Sister Patricia, here is.
27:32
Speaker 4: You had it?
27:33
Speaker 2: I had it. Here's the license plate. This is what
27:35
Speaker 2: he looked like. I remember the car.
27:37
Speaker 4: Same guy?
27:38
Speaker 2: No, it was not the same guy. Or it was
27:41
Speaker 2: a different car. Maybe it was the same guy, but
27:42
Speaker 2: it was a different car. So then all the girls,
27:46
Speaker 2: they call all the girls' parents and all the girls'
27:49
Speaker 2: parents come to pick them up. And they call my
27:51
Speaker 2: mom at the real estate office and tell her what
27:53
Speaker 2: happened and said, oh, but your daughter, you know, got
27:55
Speaker 2: the license plate. Would you like to pick her up?
27:57
Speaker 2: And she goes, no, I have to work. She's been
27:59
Speaker 2: through this before.
28:01
Speaker 4: She's fine. She's fine.
28:04
Speaker 2: She can walk home by herself afterwards.
28:09
Speaker 4: Yo, those are 80s parents right there, man.
28:12
Speaker 2: But they did get the guy. We never had to
28:14
Speaker 2: testify or anything like that.
28:15
Speaker 4: That's amazing.
28:16
Speaker 2: And now the school is much more secure, and there's
28:18
Speaker 2: grass everywhere, and there's no way anyone can see, and
28:20
Speaker 2: there's security guards. But, yeah. Okay, well, speaking of which,
28:24
Speaker 2: let's get into some Juicy Scoop. Here is a sports
28:27
Speaker 2: one for you. And being that you're from Boston, Tom Brady,
28:31
Speaker 2: who was originally from Boston, right? He's from California. But
28:34
Speaker 2: he played for.
28:35
Speaker 4: The Patriots, yeah.
28:36
Speaker 2: For a long time. And married to Giselle. Now, we've
28:39
Speaker 2: been talking about the fact that they were fighting. There
28:41
Speaker 2: was all these rumors. Then she got a divorce attorney. Now,
28:44
Speaker 2: it 100% looks like they both secured divorce attorneys. And
28:50
Speaker 2: I thought this was kind of really stretching New York Post.
28:54
Speaker 2: They said, She changed her tattoo. They caught the bottom
28:57
Speaker 2: of her foot and her ankle. At one time, it
29:00
Speaker 2: was a crescent moon with three stars. Now it's like
29:02
Speaker 2: this whole big design. And I'm reading it and I'm thinking, oh, wait,
29:07
Speaker 2: did she have a crescent moon and three stars because
29:10
Speaker 2: she and Tom share three kids or do they only
29:14
Speaker 2: have two kids? So he's the crescent and she's the
29:17
Speaker 2: three stars. And then I keep reading and they're like,
29:19
Speaker 2: though she got the Crescent in three stars before she
29:21
Speaker 2: ever met Tom. I'm like, all right.
29:23
Speaker 4: Come on.
29:23
Speaker 2: This has nothing to do. A Crescent in three stars
29:27
Speaker 2: is very dated tattoo look. And if you have a
29:30
Speaker 2: Crescent in three stars, look up Giselle's. I think this
29:32
Speaker 2: is much more attractive. Update it. Update it and make
29:36
Speaker 2: it a little more happening.
29:37
Speaker 4: It's like just changing your tribal tattoo. It's just because
29:40
Speaker 4: it's been there for 25 years. What do you think?
29:45
Speaker 4: I think we forget that she still probably has more
29:50
Speaker 4: money than him and is probably more successful. Going into
29:54
Speaker 4: the marriage, for sure, more successful. I think she gave
29:58
Speaker 4: up more Then he did. Don't you think? And so
30:02
Speaker 4: I think she came to a point where she was like, yo,
30:04
Speaker 4: you have nothing else to prove. You've won seven Super Bowls.
30:08
Speaker 4: You've made all the money. Everybody thinks you're the greatest.
30:11
Speaker 4: We want you back at home. Why are you going
30:14
Speaker 4: back to do this one more year? I think it
30:17
Speaker 4: makes sense.
30:21
Speaker 2: I grew up with, you know, a dad that like.
30:24
Speaker 2: Had a lot of highs and lows. He was a
30:26
Speaker 2: yelling 70s dad that would yell, you know, and the
30:29
Speaker 2: next day he'd be happy. And he probably had some
30:31
Speaker 2: issues anyway and he was a vet and whatever. But
30:35
Speaker 2: there was definitely like times where like if things were
30:37
Speaker 2: going well in business, he was happy. If they weren't,
30:40
Speaker 2: he was mad. So I remember thinking being really young
30:42
Speaker 2: and being like, oh, my God, it must be hell
30:44
Speaker 2: to be the wife of a professional doctor. football player
30:48
Speaker 2: if if they lose or god forbid they lose because
30:51
Speaker 2: of like they were the final play that dropped or
30:53
Speaker 2: whatever the pressure of the fans and the mood and
30:56
Speaker 2: then have to deal with that asshole i remember thinking
30:58
Speaker 2: that very young so i'm guessing she's had to deal
31:02
Speaker 2: with that along with all the money in the fame
31:04
Speaker 2: and the fans loving you and the fans hating you
31:07
Speaker 2: and the fans blaming the white i mean like now
31:09
Speaker 2: if he doesn't play well for the tampa whatever they
31:12
Speaker 2: are then um They're just going to fucking turn on her.
31:16
Speaker 2: They're going to say like, oh, you stressed him out
31:18
Speaker 2: by filing for divorce. And I think she's finally like,
31:20
Speaker 2: I'm doing what's right for me.
31:22
Speaker 4: I think so too.
31:22
Speaker 2: I don't fucking care about the fans, the football, whatever.
31:25
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been a lot of divorced couples that
31:28
Speaker 2: have filed and then have reconciled lately. The latest one
31:32
Speaker 2: I read was Michelle Branch.
31:33
Speaker 4: Really?
31:34
Speaker 2: She filed from her husband and they just caught them
31:36
Speaker 2: kissing and they both removed the, took away the filing.
31:40
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm hoping.
31:42
Speaker 4: I think the deal here is that like, you know,
31:49
Speaker 4: I'm torn on this because everybody gets to live their
31:51
Speaker 4: own life.
31:52
Speaker 2: Right.
31:53
Speaker 4: And so say he comes back, he retires, but he
31:56
Speaker 4: doesn't want to retire. And then he's an asshole. Do
32:00
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
32:01
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:02
Speaker 4: I think. True.
32:03
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just really hard. And I think what
32:05
Speaker 2: you're saying is right. Like maybe she always felt. That
32:08
Speaker 2: their family, their life is about Tom Brady.
32:12
Speaker 4: He's so dedicated, Heather. So if you think about the
32:14
Speaker 4: way he eats, the way he trains, he goes to
32:16
Speaker 4: sleep at the same time every night. Super rigid is
32:19
Speaker 4: when he's training. That can't be the easiest person to
32:24
Speaker 4: live with all the time.
32:25
Speaker 2: Also, can you look up how old Giselle is? Because
32:27
Speaker 2: as a woman, well, I think she's definitely over 40.
32:31
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, as a woman, you're changing all
32:35
Speaker 2: the time. And your attitudes and... She's 42, and I
32:40
Speaker 2: think she's just getting— well, first of all, I would tell
32:42
Speaker 2: anyone that's thinking of getting divorced of a long-term marriage.
32:47
Speaker 2: Just like there is a more— a better window to nab
32:54
Speaker 2: your first husband of age. I'm sorry people don't want
32:57
Speaker 2: to hear it, but it's true, okay? And the sweet
33:01
Speaker 2: spot is between 27 and 32. I don't think.
33:03
Speaker 4: Giselle would have a problem with that.
33:05
Speaker 2: But if you're going to go get divorced, okay, and
33:08
Speaker 2: you've got a couple kids, and you want to go
33:11
Speaker 2: around to fall in love, have some fun, and have
33:13
Speaker 2: still a good amount of dudes to choose from for
33:17
Speaker 2: second wife, second husband fun, which is a lot of people.
33:21
Speaker 2: My friend lives in... Charlotte. And I think that's the
33:23
Speaker 2: best place for rich second marriages. Yeah. Oh, my God.
33:28
Speaker 4: But can I tell you something?
33:29
Speaker 2: But anyway, I think the window is like if you're
33:32
Speaker 2: going to do it and you really think I don't
33:34
Speaker 2: want to end my days with this fucker. Listen to me,
33:37
Speaker 2: Juicy Scoopers. You really feel like. No, I don't look
33:41
Speaker 2: forward to babysitting my grandkids with them. I'm done. I'm done.
33:44
Speaker 2: I'm done. You've got to get out in your early 40s.
33:47
Speaker 2: You've got to get out. I don't care how hot
33:48
Speaker 2: you are. Get out in your early 40s. Now someone's
33:50
Speaker 2: going to say, of course. Get out whenever you can
33:52
Speaker 2: get out. But if you're strategically planning your life and
33:55
Speaker 2: you're really not happy at 39, you really, really are
33:58
Speaker 2: not happy, either make it happier, save it, or get
34:04
Speaker 2: out in the next three years. And that's my advice.
34:06
Speaker 4: Here's my thing with her. One, she's really going to
34:09
Speaker 4: have to figure out if people like her for her.
34:12
Speaker 4: Because I know dudes who would try to date her
34:15
Speaker 4: just on the off chance that they might meet Tom Brady.
34:17
Speaker 6: Totally.
34:17
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? So at family reunions, he's
34:19
Speaker 4: going to be there, right? Yeah.
34:20
Speaker 2: You guys have a good co-parenting relationship.
34:24
Speaker 4: When the kids are playing sports, he'll be there. And
34:25
Speaker 4: we can chat it up. There are going to be
34:27
Speaker 4: dudes who are dating her. But also, she's Giselle. So
34:33
Speaker 4: I don't think she falls into that. Do you know
34:36
Speaker 4: what I mean?
34:37
Speaker 2: Like Chris, no, she doesn't fall into that, but I'm
34:39
Speaker 2: just saying in general, like even, you know, really wealthy
34:42
Speaker 2: women that get married for the second time, the whole thing.
34:45
Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard.
34:45
Speaker 2: It's always hard when you have kids, but if you
34:48
Speaker 2: really feel like you're done, done, um, they don't waste
34:53
Speaker 2: any more time, except I'm still hopeful that they might
34:56
Speaker 2: be the couple that like Sylvester Stallone and his wife
35:01
Speaker 2: just pulled the divorce. Yeah. They're back together. And like,
35:05
Speaker 2: I do think this is like kind of this new
35:07
Speaker 2: move that one or both their spouse kind of does
35:11
Speaker 2: it to be like, no, I am really serious. I've
35:14
Speaker 2: told you this for years. You haven't believed me, you know.
35:18
Speaker 2: But if they don't get back together, I do not
35:21
Speaker 2: think this will be a pleasant separation. I think this
35:24
Speaker 2: is going to be rich.
35:26
Speaker 4: You think public? Because he hates public. Like he doesn't
35:31
Speaker 4: like to have anything out in public. Do you think
35:34
Speaker 4: he'd go like.
35:35
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it could be one of
35:36
Speaker 2: those things. Like as rich as you are, it's just
35:38
Speaker 2: like when you love that hard and I think they
35:42
Speaker 2: really were in love.
35:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
35:43
Speaker 2: Then when you divorce someone that you really love. Now,
35:45
Speaker 2: if you're indifferent and both people are indifferent and they're like,
35:51
Speaker 2: you know, everybody wants their divorce to be like, like, hey, Josh,
35:55
Speaker 2: like you're my husband. Like, here's a cup of coffee.
35:58
Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Yeah. It's we're good.
36:01
Speaker 4: Yeah.
36:02
Speaker 2: Our kids are grown.
36:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple high fives.
36:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to. You like to live in the desert.
36:08
Speaker 2: I like to live in the OC. Let's do just
36:10
Speaker 2: a clean split. You keep that house. I keep the OC.
36:13
Speaker 2: Take your clothes. Keep the boat. I don't really care.
36:16
Speaker 2: Do you think people.
36:18
Speaker 4: This rich argue over stuff? They both have so much money.
36:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then it could be like, remember the War
36:28
Speaker 2: of the Roses? You want to hope that we can
36:32
Speaker 2: do this.
36:32
Speaker 6: Yeah.
36:33
Speaker 2: But if one person, unless you're both completely on the
36:37
Speaker 2: same page, which happens so rarely, the person that doesn't
36:42
Speaker 2: want it can then turn really angry, possessive, ugly, and
36:47
Speaker 2: be like, oh, you think you're going to get the
36:50
Speaker 2: upper hand on this? Oh, fucking no, you're not. And
36:53
Speaker 2: I've got all the money. as well to make this
36:56
Speaker 2: a miserable experience for you. And once you get a guy,
36:58
Speaker 2: it's going to be hard for you to keep that
37:00
Speaker 2: relationship because I'm going to drama fill your life so much.
37:04
Speaker 2: And every time you think you're going to have a
37:05
Speaker 2: nice weekend with your boyfriend and the kids, I'm going
37:09
Speaker 2: to send a, you know, a court ordered thing to
37:13
Speaker 2: you on your doorstep as you're walking out on the
37:15
Speaker 2: trip to Hawaii. Like I'm going to make your life
37:16
Speaker 2: so fucking miserable that the guy is like, I'm done.
37:20
Speaker 4: Who's the most, like, who do you think is the more,
37:23
Speaker 4: is the better catch? And the more desirable, if they're
37:26
Speaker 4: both single, who do you think is the better catch?
37:30
Speaker 4: I have to tell you. Yeah. I mean, Giselle seems
37:36
Speaker 4: like she wants to just raise her kids and be
37:39
Speaker 4: at home right now.
37:40
Speaker 6: Yeah.
37:41
Speaker 4: And so that seems like she's independently wealthy. Now, Tom
37:44
Speaker 4: Brady's Tom Brady.
37:45
Speaker 2: Right. Well, she's set, too, because they've been together so
37:47
Speaker 2: long and she has kids who are minors. So she's set.
37:49
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. Yeah.
37:50
Speaker 4: I mean, in my man crush, it's hard for me
37:52
Speaker 4: to look past my man crush of Tom Brady. But
37:54
Speaker 4: I think if I looked at it completely objectively, I
37:59
Speaker 4: think Giselle's probably the better catch.
38:01
Speaker 2: Listen, guys like this, too, what also happens, sadly, Giselle,
38:07
Speaker 2: is in a few years when he's with a really great,
38:11
Speaker 2: beautiful girl that also has something to offer besides her looks,
38:18
Speaker 2: you're going to realize these guys see you sometimes as replaceable.
38:23
Speaker 2: something a lot of people don't talk about, but a
38:24
Speaker 2: lot of women realize after they get divorced with that,
38:27
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they've been replaced and the guys
38:30
Speaker 2: cannot be alone. And there are so many girls that
38:33
Speaker 2: are willing to be the second wife and cater to
38:37
Speaker 2: that husband the way you didn't, because the two of
38:39
Speaker 2: you were young and came up together. So you're not
38:41
Speaker 2: catering to him as a wife of 20 years, the
38:44
Speaker 2: way a wife of one year would cater to you.
38:47
Speaker 2: And because the dynamic is never going to be the same.
38:49
Speaker 2: So you're always, you're, you know, your place.
38:52
Speaker 6: You know?
38:52
Speaker 2: And then also, if a guy is smart like that
38:55
Speaker 2: and marries someone after Giselle, it's going to be like, hey,
39:01
Speaker 2: I hope you're with me till the end. But if
39:03
Speaker 2: you choose not to, you're not going to leave with
39:06
Speaker 2: that much.
39:07
Speaker 4: Yeah.
39:07
Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you the incentive to stay.
39:10
Speaker 2: That's what.
39:10
Speaker 4: He... In all of this... From what I heard, he's
39:13
Speaker 4: the one who doesn't want this and that he really
39:16
Speaker 4: wants this to work.
39:18
Speaker 2: I also did talk to a nanny that worked for
39:20
Speaker 2: them once.
39:21
Speaker 1: And.
39:22
Speaker 2: could not have said nicer things about them as a
39:25
Speaker 2: couple and about him. That's all I've heard, too. alone,
39:30
Speaker 2: like at no funny business, pick her up alone at the,
39:34
Speaker 2: at the place. They didn't even really need her that much.
39:37
Speaker 2: So they were like, no, just stay, just stay the week, whatever.
39:39
Speaker 2: We just need you for this one night. We're going
39:41
Speaker 2: to dinner, pay her part. Like so great. And so I, um,
39:47
Speaker 2: I like wondering what will happen, but I really hope
39:51
Speaker 2: they can work it out. But if they can't, I
39:52
Speaker 2: hope that it's pleasant.
39:55
Speaker 4: I think it will be. I don't know.
39:57
Speaker 2: I think when couples really love each other, it's not
39:58
Speaker 2: that pleasant.
39:59
Speaker 4: He doesn't want it, and he's such a private person.
40:02
Speaker 4: I can't imagine he would let anything get out. But
40:05
Speaker 4: who knows?
40:06
Speaker 2: It just goes to show you that every marriage is different.
40:10
Speaker 2: Every marriage has problems, and some people can't. get past
40:13
Speaker 2: the tough years. Like I would be like, if I
40:15
Speaker 2: was her, I'd be like, come on, like stick it
40:19
Speaker 2: out for two more, just in two years, he'll just
40:22
Speaker 2: be icing his leg and you can hang out. Like,
40:25
Speaker 2: like just get like, you've gone this far. Like, but
40:28
Speaker 2: if she really, she really may look at him and
40:31
Speaker 2: not be in love with him anymore. Like she really,
40:33
Speaker 2: people do fall out of love and they're just like,
40:35
Speaker 2: you gross me out. I hate looking at your face. Like,
40:37
Speaker 2: I don't care that you're Tom Brady. I don't, I,
40:41
Speaker 2: you've hurt me so much because we don't know what
40:42
Speaker 2: goes on behind doors. You've said so many mean things,
40:44
Speaker 2: not saying that he did, but we don't know that
40:47
Speaker 2: I can't turn it back on. Goodbye. Yeah.
40:50
Speaker 4: I look, you know, when you've been married a long time,
40:53
Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now, COVID, Saved my marriage. Really? Oh, Heather.
40:59
Speaker 2: Nice. I liked it too.
41:01
Speaker 4: It saved my marriage.
41:02
Speaker 2: I liked the downtime and the hanging out and doing
41:05
Speaker 2: stuff with the kids. And we were lucky because we
41:09
Speaker 2: were not essential workers. And we could still work because
41:12
Speaker 2: we had our own business. But I wasn't required to
41:14
Speaker 2: go to the grocery store and work or watch little
41:17
Speaker 2: kids in my house. Right. we kind of had the
41:19
Speaker 2: right age kids to, to like, just when you thought
41:22
Speaker 2: they didn't want to hang out with you, they had
41:23
Speaker 2: no choice.
41:24
Speaker 4: Yeah.
41:24
Speaker 2: So it was so like it for us, it wasn't terrible,
41:28
Speaker 2: you know? And I think for a lot of people
41:30
Speaker 2: that either made you realize like, God, if there's an
41:33
Speaker 2: apocalypse and I'm only left with other one other person,
41:35
Speaker 2: I don't want it to be you. Or I actually
41:38
Speaker 2: do want it to be you. I don't want to
41:39
Speaker 2: be alone. That would be really boring. If I was alone,
41:41
Speaker 2: my single friends are really sad. Like it was, there
41:44
Speaker 2: were those kinds of benefits of like, you know, Looking
41:48
Speaker 2: back at.
41:49
Speaker 4: The first season. I had been traveling so much. Beth
41:53
Speaker 4: and I needed that time together.
41:55
Speaker 2: I loved the break. I loved the break. Me too.
41:59
Speaker 2: And I think the best part, I've said this before,
42:02
Speaker 2: and actually Jennifer Aniston said it too, is when you're
42:06
Speaker 2: in this business, you want the break, but then you
42:10
Speaker 2: have this anxiety that other people at your level are
42:13
Speaker 2: working and you're not. And even if it's your choice,
42:16
Speaker 2: And so if I wasn't on the road and I'd
42:18
Speaker 2: go and see that you were like, thank you, Nashville!
42:22
Speaker 2: I'd be like, ah, fuck. I'm happy for him, but
42:24
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not doing enough. It was just
42:26
Speaker 2: nice to have a break where nobody could perform and
42:29
Speaker 2: no one could work. And there was that element of
42:31
Speaker 2: that competition jealousy that you don't want to admit to,
42:34
Speaker 2: but it just is part of our business. That was
42:36
Speaker 2: gone from our psyche. And that was nice.
42:38
Speaker 4: Can I tell you, it's the biggest change in me
42:41
Speaker 4: from leaving Los Angeles. Exactly what you described... That I
42:44
Speaker 4: felt every day living here, I don't feel anymore.
42:48
Speaker 2: And you live in Vegas now.
42:49
Speaker 4: I live in Vegas. Heather, I am in the most
42:53
Speaker 4: positive way a new human as opposed to three years ago.
42:57
Speaker 4: I professionally and personally never felt better in my entire life.
43:02
Speaker 2: Well, that's great. I'm happy for you. Leaving here did—
43:05
Speaker 2: I know you're so miserable.
43:07
Speaker 4: Yo, when I look back at who I was even
43:10
Speaker 4: three years ago, I feel bad for that dude.
43:12
Speaker 2: Okay.
43:12
Speaker 4: I really do feel bad for that dude. He was
43:14
Speaker 4: a sad guy.
43:15
Speaker 2: I didn't like 2019. Yeah. I didn't like that year.
43:18
Speaker 2: It wasn't a great year for me either.
43:19
Speaker 4: What was happening in 2019?
43:20
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it was right before COVID. And
43:22
Speaker 2: I remember it was like a stressful year for me.
43:24
Speaker 2: It was like other things going on and I wasn't
43:26
Speaker 2: as happy either.
43:27
Speaker 4: But you have done something. You're one of the people
43:30
Speaker 4: that I think about a lot in an inspirational way.
43:32
Speaker 4: You pushed all your chips in on yourself. You 100%
43:36
Speaker 4: were like... I know who I am. I know what
43:39
Speaker 4: I do well. I know there's an audience for this.
43:42
Speaker 4: I'm going all in.
43:43
Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
43:44
Speaker 4: But like you– that's a pioneer move. Like you– most
43:50
Speaker 4: people are too scared to bet on themselves and you
43:53
Speaker 4: really did.
43:54
Speaker 2: But also I had no choice. Like everything had dried up.
43:57
Speaker 2: So I actually had no choice. So that's sometimes the–
43:59
Speaker 2: that's why I tell people when you get fired or
44:01
Speaker 2: something– Like, hopefully it may take a year, it may
44:05
Speaker 2: take three, but you're going to wake up one day
44:07
Speaker 2: and any regret you had about that firing or about
44:10
Speaker 2: that breakup, you're going to look back and go, oh
44:13
Speaker 2: my God.
44:14
Speaker 5: Yeah.
44:14
Speaker 2: If that didn't happen, then this wouldn't have happened. This
44:16
Speaker 2: wouldn't happen. I wouldn't be here today. And it always
44:19
Speaker 2: seems to, you know, providing it's not, you know, a
44:22
Speaker 2: loss of a life, it always seems to work out. Like,
44:25
Speaker 2: you're kind of like, okay.
44:27
Speaker 4: But Heather, let me just, one more compliment for you.
44:30
Speaker 2: Oh, sure, sure.
44:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
44:32
Speaker 4: I disagree in that if it dried up, you had
44:35
Speaker 4: no other choice because a lot of people just quit.
44:37
Speaker 4: They take their ball and go home. And so I disagree.
44:39
Speaker 4: The easiest thing is to quit when that happens and
44:42
Speaker 4: to blame everybody else, which is what most people do.
44:45
Speaker 4: They go, Oh, this isn't happening. They won't let me,
44:48
Speaker 4: they won't let me. And it's all, you're pushing it,
44:50
Speaker 4: making it other people's fault that you can't do what
44:53
Speaker 4: you want to do. And you didn't do that.
44:54
Speaker 5: No.
44:54
Speaker 2: And I actually had the meeting at William Morris where
44:56
Speaker 2: I'm like, why am I not getting going out for
44:59
Speaker 2: anything anymore? Um, And they were just like, you're just
45:01
Speaker 2: not what anybody's looking for. Like you're either too experienced
45:05
Speaker 2: or you're too old or you're too not diverse. I'm like, well,
45:10
Speaker 2: those are all things. I can't change my age. I
45:13
Speaker 2: can't change my sex. I can't change my sexuality. Well,
45:16
Speaker 2: I don't want to. And I can't change my color
45:19
Speaker 2: of my skin or what I was raised as. And
45:22
Speaker 2: so I was like, and they're like, but if you
45:24
Speaker 2: build something, like then we can talk in a couple
45:27
Speaker 2: of years. And so I was like, all right, I
45:29
Speaker 2: guess I'll just push on this Juicy Scoop thing. And
45:31
Speaker 2: it did work out because I was like, yeah, you're right. Like, okay,
45:35
Speaker 2: it's okay. If you don't, if I'm not the flavor,
45:37
Speaker 2: if I'm not what Hollywood's looking for right now, I'm
45:39
Speaker 2: not going to like boohoo it. Make something, you got
45:42
Speaker 2: to make something else. And thank God we're in like
45:45
Speaker 2: a time in media where you can.
45:47
Speaker 4: But it shows how out of touch those people are, Heather,
45:50
Speaker 4: because you have one of the biggest podcasts in the world, right?
45:55
Speaker 4: In the world. Those people are so out of touch,
45:58
Speaker 4: they're telling you nobody wants what you're offering. Clearly, there
46:03
Speaker 4: are millions of people who do.
46:05
Speaker 2: Right, but I mean just not for like TV and stuff,
46:06
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Speaker 2: about the Try Guys?
47:33
Speaker 4: No.
47:33
Speaker 2: Okay. So I kept seeing this Try Guy thing and
47:35
Speaker 2: I didn't understand what it was. So there's these four
47:38
Speaker 2: guys and I guess they worked together at one time.
47:42
Speaker 2: But like seven or eight years ago, they started doing
47:44
Speaker 2: this really successful YouTube show. They have like 8 million
47:48
Speaker 2: subscribers and I watched one of them and it's a
47:50
Speaker 2: great idea. Where like the four of them, the one
47:52
Speaker 2: I saw was like the four Try Guys, kind of
47:54
Speaker 2: like those, who are those other guys that do the pranks?
47:57
Speaker 4: Impractical Jokers.
47:58
Speaker 2: Yes, kind of like that.
47:59
Speaker 6: Okay.
47:59
Speaker 2: But they probably got the idea from that. But they
48:02
Speaker 2: try different things. So the one I saw is the
48:04
Speaker 2: four guys are all going to try to do fake nails.
48:08
Speaker 2: And they have like fake hands. But they actually, who's
48:10
Speaker 2: going to do the best nail art?
48:11
Speaker 6: Okay.
48:12
Speaker 2: They don't know how to do it. They don't know
48:13
Speaker 2: how to glue the nails. They, you know, and they
48:16
Speaker 2: get told what to do. So it's like very entertaining.
48:18
Speaker 2: And then they have people judge it and everything. So
48:21
Speaker 2: it became huge, and then, of course, they also added
48:23
Speaker 2: a podcast element to it. So I'm seeing all this stuff,
48:26
Speaker 2: and I guess one of the guys, Ned, who was married,
48:30
Speaker 2: so people know their personal lives as well because of
48:32
Speaker 2: the thing and also because of the podcast, the YouTube.
48:36
Speaker 2: And they were getting DMs, a couple of the other guys,
48:38
Speaker 2: because they shared it on the podcast and I listened
48:40
Speaker 2: to it, saying, we saw Ned with another woman who's
48:44
Speaker 2: not his wife. And they're like, what the fuck is
48:46
Speaker 2: going on? So they are trying to keep it quiet.
48:50
Speaker 2: And not only is this guy married, but he, the
48:53
Speaker 2: girl that he, they all agree it was a consensual
48:56
Speaker 2: situation worked for them, worked within their office company. So
49:02
Speaker 2: as I'm listening to it, the two guys are like,
49:04
Speaker 2: and I've never heard of these people. I never listened
49:06
Speaker 2: to it. Two guys are like, I mean, we just
49:08
Speaker 2: wanted to tell you guys what we've been going through
49:10
Speaker 2: and we had to figure out what we were going
49:11
Speaker 2: to do. And the last month was hell. And, I
49:13
Speaker 2: felt like it was like a breakup and this and that.
49:15
Speaker 2: And Ned is no longer with us and everything. And
49:18
Speaker 2: Peter and I were both listening to it in the car.
49:19
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, am I being weird or are
49:24
Speaker 2: guys really this moral that they get rid of their
49:27
Speaker 2: partner because they cheated on their wife? Or is it,
49:31
Speaker 2: this is what I thought it was more of when
49:32
Speaker 2: I thought more about it. I think it's because the
49:34
Speaker 2: girl is was someone that worked for them. And now
49:37
Speaker 2: he's put the whole company in jeopardy. And even if
49:40
Speaker 2: it's consensual, she could come back. Because now he's saying,
49:45
Speaker 2: I only care about my wife and my family. And
49:48
Speaker 2: he did a statement of, I'm so sorry. So if
49:50
Speaker 2: he dumps this girl, which sounds like it is, to
49:52
Speaker 2: try to make his marriage work, and this girl can
49:56
Speaker 2: now come back and be like, he was a superior.
50:00
Speaker 2: He was the star of the show. And it doesn't
50:02
Speaker 2: matter that I have texts and everything was consensual. I
50:05
Speaker 2: was manipulating to be in this relationship, which is why
50:08
Speaker 2: I have a friend who worked at HR and she said,
50:11
Speaker 2: you know, the minute you're to be dating someone, you're
50:14
Speaker 2: both supposed to come in, tell that you're both dating,
50:17
Speaker 2: like sign papers, because even if you were both, yes,
50:21
Speaker 2: even if you were both like working there, if one is,
50:26
Speaker 2: even if you both have the same job, but one
50:27
Speaker 2: was hired the day before you, that could be seen
50:30
Speaker 2: as like superior, right? Or, you know.
50:33
Speaker 4: Yeah.
50:35
Speaker 2: And so at any time, if they break up, the underling,
50:39
Speaker 2: if they could be considered an underling, could have a case.
50:44
Speaker 4: A hundred percent.
50:45
Speaker 2: So that is why I think they're like, dude, if
50:47
Speaker 2: you weren't happy with your wife, but they don't really
50:50
Speaker 2: say all this. They acted more like. Yeah. But I mean,
50:52
Speaker 2: I think the truth is probably when they got on
50:54
Speaker 2: the phone with each other was like, listen, fucker, if
50:56
Speaker 2: you're not happy with your wife, you want to fuck around. Like,
50:58
Speaker 2: go get a girl.
50:59
Speaker 4: That's right.
51:00
Speaker 2: In another city.
51:00
Speaker 4: That's right. Or something.
51:02
Speaker 2: But the girl that works for us, you're putting us
51:04
Speaker 2: all in jeopardy. And then also, it's a pretty fun,
51:07
Speaker 2: clean show that they do. Yeah. So I think it
51:11
Speaker 2: wasn't Christian-based, but it was like... Which one's Ned?
51:14
Speaker 4: Do you know?
51:15
Speaker 2: I want to say it was this one and this
51:18
Speaker 2: one is Ned.
51:20
Speaker 4: Which one?
51:21
Speaker 2: The one on the end with the striped shirt.
51:23
Speaker 4: Harry Potter?
51:23
Speaker 2: Wait, will you just look up which one's Ned so
51:25
Speaker 2: I don't say the wrong one is Ned?
51:27
Speaker 4: Harry Potter's Ned?
51:27
Speaker 2: I guess. I guess.
51:30
Speaker 4: I mean, if I had to look at those four dudes.
51:34
Speaker 2: I thought this one was Ned, because I think one
51:36
Speaker 2: is gay. I'm not sure. But I thought this one
51:39
Speaker 2: was Ned in the jean jacket, but I think it's
51:41
Speaker 2: the other one.
51:41
Speaker 4: I have to tell you, if I had to pick
51:43
Speaker 4: a dude who was cheating out of those four, ooh,
51:48
Speaker 4: they all look pretty beta. You know what I mean?
51:53
Speaker 4: They all look like pretty passive dudes. So you're saying
51:58
Speaker 4: Harry Potter's Ned?
51:58
Speaker 2: Those are the ones that cheat sometimes. Because nobody ever
52:02
Speaker 2: wanted them before. His wife might have been a girl
52:05
Speaker 2: that he dated from 16 or, you know, 18 on.
52:08
Speaker 2: And now this girl's getting attention. Oh, that is him. Oh, my.
52:13
Speaker 2: I am blown away.
52:14
Speaker 4: That's the last one I would have guessed.
52:16
Speaker 2: My God, if this was the, this should have been
52:18
Speaker 2: the try guy game. Try to figure out which one
52:21
Speaker 2: cheated on his wife. Yo, I would have guessed him last.
52:23
Speaker 2: That's his wife. She's gorgeous.
52:29
Speaker 4: Oh, no. What is he thinking about?
52:31
Speaker 2: So he's a carrot top. He doesn't look tall and
52:35
Speaker 2: has a gorgeous blonde white. Well, now I understand why
52:38
Speaker 2: people are mad.
52:39
Speaker 4: Seth Green's cousin.
52:40
Speaker 2: You got this beautiful girl and then you're so ego
52:43
Speaker 2: driven that you also have to cheat with a girl
52:46
Speaker 2: that works for them?
52:46
Speaker 4: It's because of that guy. Here's the things with guys.
52:49
Speaker 4: So it makes sense to me with that guy because
52:51
Speaker 4: that guy growing up, got zero.
52:54
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what it is. And then
52:56
Speaker 2: they get successful.
52:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
52:58
Speaker 2: Also the most dangerous type of guy too, to break
53:01
Speaker 2: your heart is the 50 year old who's divorced after
53:05
Speaker 2: 23 years and just gets on a Tinder or whatever.
53:10
Speaker 2: Isn't great looking, but has some money.
53:12
Speaker 4: Yeah.
53:12
Speaker 2: And every girl like between 52 and 38 is like,
53:17
Speaker 2: all right, I'll date him. And they don't realize that
53:20
Speaker 2: there's about a hundred other girls that are like, I'll
53:22
Speaker 2: date him. And then this guy is like, I slept
53:25
Speaker 2: with two girls before my wife. And now I've got
53:28
Speaker 2: hundreds coming because I own a home. That's it. Yeah.
53:34
Speaker 4: That's it. His Tinder, his profile picture is just a house.
53:39
Speaker 4: And people are like, yeah.
53:40
Speaker 2: It literally should just be a house. A house.
53:43
Speaker 4: I have to, those, you're right. That dude, that's the
53:46
Speaker 4: dude who's going to fuck Everybody he possibly can before
53:50
Speaker 4: he can't anymore. There's no doubt. I have to tell you.
53:53
Speaker 2: But he had to leave. And I don't know what
53:54
Speaker 2: their situation was in creating this. But I assume it's
53:58
Speaker 2: a lot of lawyers either buying him out or making
54:00
Speaker 2: him leave or whatever. But someone like this, I don't
54:03
Speaker 2: know how popular he is.
54:05
Speaker 6: Well.
54:06
Speaker 2: I predict what will happen.
54:07
Speaker 4: Okay.
54:08
Speaker 2: So he goes away. This is what I would suggest
54:10
Speaker 2: he do. I don't even know if he's extremely funny
54:14
Speaker 2: or if he just got thrown with these guys and
54:16
Speaker 2: got to have fun for eight years.
54:17
Speaker 4: Right.
54:18
Speaker 2: If I would say go away for a while, hopefully
54:22
Speaker 2: make your marriage work. I don't know if you have kids,
54:25
Speaker 2: try to have one.
54:25
Speaker 4: Right.
54:29
Speaker 2: Then come back and do some kind of confessional like
54:34
Speaker 2: on a podcast as your first one.
54:37
Speaker 4: On their podcast?
54:38
Speaker 2: No, start your own.
54:38
Speaker 4: Okay.
54:39
Speaker 2: Start with a confessional. Next episode is maybe the wife's
54:43
Speaker 2: on it. And then, like, have enough good ones after with, like,
54:48
Speaker 2: good guests that you keep those people that originally hooked
54:51
Speaker 2: in to.
54:51
Speaker 4: Do you bring the girl on?
54:55
Speaker 2: The one you cheated with?
54:56
Speaker 4: Do you... Because... Well, that would be extra.
54:58
Speaker 2: Juicy if you.
54:59
Speaker 4: Wouldn't it? Wife, him, and the girl?
55:01
Speaker 2: If the numbers go down, bring the girl on.
55:03
Speaker 4: Bring the girl on.
55:04
Speaker 2: But that's what I would do, and I so... But...
55:07
Speaker 2: Or get your real estate license. He's tiny. He could
55:15
Speaker 2: join the tiny twins on the Oppenheim group selling Sunset.
55:19
Speaker 4: You know, Heather, I will tell you, if he had
55:21
Speaker 4: the girl on that he cheated with, we both know
55:24
Speaker 4: a guy named Joey Diaz. Joey Diaz kidnapped somebody. He
55:26
Speaker 4: had the dude he kidnapped on his podcast. One of
55:29
Speaker 4: the most fascinating conversations I've ever had.
55:30
Speaker 2: Wait, why did he kidnap someone?
55:33
Speaker 4: You know, Joe was a.
55:34
Speaker 2: He was like a little.
55:36
Speaker 4: He was a little bit of a criminal.
55:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
55:38
Speaker 4: He did some jail time for that.
55:39
Speaker 2: He's criminal-like.
55:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's criminal. I considered him to be a moral criminal.
55:43
Speaker 2: Yeah.
55:43
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Because he had his moral line.
55:45
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was a fascinating conversation. But to have
55:49
Speaker 4: for this dude.
55:50
Speaker 2: So, but he kidnapped him in like a mobster situation?
55:53
Speaker 4: And like threw him in the trunk of a car.
55:55
Speaker 2: Like in a mobster thing.
55:56
Speaker 4: Well, it was just him and the guy. The guy
55:58
Speaker 4: was a drug dealer.
55:59
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
56:00
Speaker 4: And, you know, Joey was like, you know, the cops
56:03
Speaker 4: don't mind if I steal money from a drug dealer.
56:06
Speaker 2: Okay, but then how many years later did he have
56:08
Speaker 2: him as a guest on the show?
56:11
Speaker 4: Got to be 20 years.
56:12
Speaker 2: And how did he find him?
56:14
Speaker 4: He just, I mean, he talked about it so much.
56:16
Speaker 2: And then he eventually found him?
56:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they did the show. It's a really, the
56:20
Speaker 4: episode is pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy. But if this dude,
56:24
Speaker 4: imagine him, him, the wife. Because I think the wife
56:28
Speaker 4: would have to be there. Him and the wife?
56:34
Speaker 2: So he and the wife are getting along, so that's
56:36
Speaker 2: what's going to save him.
56:38
Speaker 4: But he'll never be able to go back on this show.
56:40
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm going to give him an invitation to come
56:43
Speaker 2: on Juicy Scoop.
56:43
Speaker 4: I love that.
56:44
Speaker 2: Come to the white table. Don't go to the red
56:46
Speaker 2: table talk.
56:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not going to like it.
56:48
Speaker 2: But if they did, you'd just get ready to talk
56:51
Speaker 2: the whole time. Because if you ever see that show,
56:54
Speaker 2: the three of them, Jada, Grandma, Pick and Spiff, or
56:56
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and Willow, all they do is just go, oof. Child.
57:07
Speaker 4: I have to tell you.
57:07
Speaker 2: I would suggest that, though. I would also suggest just
57:10
Speaker 2: for the press, if you want to keep this press
57:13
Speaker 2: train going before you launch your own podcast, Carrot Top, Ned,
57:17
Speaker 2: you can come here, but I'm going to be honest
57:20
Speaker 2: with you because I'm a Christian. You might get more
57:23
Speaker 2: press from the Red Table Talk.
57:25
Speaker 4: I don't know. This is a pretty big show.
57:26
Speaker 2: I don't know, everybody. I would love to hear it.
57:30
Speaker 2: I don't want this guy never to be in entertainment again.
57:32
Speaker 4: Me neither.
57:33
Speaker 2: You know? So, like, I feel, whatever. People make mistakes.
57:36
Speaker 2: But this is.
57:37
Speaker 4: I agree.
57:37
Speaker 2: But, hey, it's the ultimate price to pay. So.
57:41
Speaker 4: You know what else? I don't... If the wife isn't
57:45
Speaker 4: judging him, if the wife... Then who am I? Do
57:48
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, if the wife's okay
57:49
Speaker 4: with it, then who am I to say shit about
57:52
Speaker 4: their relationship?
57:53
Speaker 2: Yeah.
57:54
Speaker 4: It always gets me when people are like, I can't
57:56
Speaker 4: believe she... You don't know what their relationship's like. And
57:58
Speaker 4: if that's what she wants to do, she wants to.
58:00
Speaker 2: Well, I always think that's the biggest hurt for... a
58:03
Speaker 2: couple in the public eye because it's like, hey, listen,
58:06
Speaker 2: a lot of people have, you know, arrangements with like,
58:09
Speaker 2: you want to do it.
58:10
Speaker 4: You think Adam Levine did?
58:12
Speaker 2: Yes, totally. And I don't think, we still don't have
58:15
Speaker 2: any real evidence that Adam Levine ever met anybody in person.
58:19
Speaker 2: There isn't one picture of them laying in bed together or.
58:23
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that was his thing. It was gross.
58:27
Speaker 2: He probably did it to so many girls, as we
58:29
Speaker 2: know he did. And what it is is I don't
58:32
Speaker 2: even care that you do that, stupid Adam Levine, but
58:35
Speaker 2: now it's embarrassing for me because I don't want to
58:37
Speaker 2: divorce your stupid ass.
58:38
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
58:39
Speaker 2: So now I look like now the feminists are after
58:42
Speaker 2: me when it's like, fuck off. Exactly. So that's the
58:46
Speaker 2: problem is you humiliated me because you got found out.
58:51
Speaker 4: It didn't bother me. I knew about it. And now
58:54
Speaker 4: that it's public, it's almost like I have to make
58:57
Speaker 4: it bother me.
58:57
Speaker 2: Right.
58:58
Speaker 4: Because if it doesn't bother me, people think something's wrong
59:00
Speaker 4: with me.
59:01
Speaker 2: Right. Right. You're such a doormat or whatever. okay um
59:04
Speaker 2: this okay everyone's watching dalmer yeah and this article came
59:08
Speaker 2: out from new york post creepy four star signs shared
59:12
Speaker 2: by the world's worst criminals and so by the.
59:15
Speaker 4: Way is ted bundy that good looking when people keep
59:17
Speaker 4: talking about how this handsome is he that good looking No,
59:22
Speaker 4: but he was.
59:22
Speaker 2: Like clean cut for the time because the time was
59:25
Speaker 2: like more hippie-ish.
59:26
Speaker 4: Okay.
59:26
Speaker 2: And he was like clean cut and that's why people
59:29
Speaker 2: didn't ever suspect him.
59:30
Speaker 4: People keep talking about he was just handsome. I keep
59:31
Speaker 4: looking at these pictures like, I mean, is he that?
59:34
Speaker 4: If he walked into a bar, would you be like, oh,
59:37
Speaker 4: I got him.
59:37
Speaker 2: Wait, what were the signs again? They were Pisces. Pisces. Virgo, Gemini,
59:46
Speaker 2: and Sagittarius are the world's worst criminals are one of
59:50
Speaker 2: those signs.
59:51
Speaker 4: Are you any of those signs?
59:52
Speaker 2: Serial killers. They're serial killers. Well, the good news is
59:57
Speaker 2: that Peter is an Aries.
1:00:00
Speaker 6: Good.
1:00:01
Speaker 2: And Drake is a Scorpio.
1:00:03
Speaker 4: Perfect.
1:00:04
Speaker 2: And what was Brandon? Libra.
1:00:05
Speaker 4: Me too. I'm a Libra.
1:00:06
Speaker 2: Libra. They are not the serial killer signs, which I'm
1:00:09
Speaker 2: more concerned about giving birth to a serial killer than
1:00:12
Speaker 2: getting killed by a serial killer.
1:00:14
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:00:14
Speaker 4: Way worse. I don't feel responsible for that.
1:00:16
Speaker 2: I was telling Annie, I go, I think that's one
1:00:18
Speaker 2: of the biggest things that like boy moms don't talk about.
1:00:21
Speaker 2: Because like as a girl mom, your biggest fear is
1:00:23
Speaker 2: that your daughter is like getting... First of all, as
1:00:25
Speaker 2: a parent, your biggest fear is your child is going
1:00:27
Speaker 2: to be kidnapped, right? Then at a certain point, your
1:00:29
Speaker 2: son gets to a size where he ages out of
1:00:31
Speaker 2: being kidnapped. Okay?
1:00:34
Speaker 6: And.
1:00:34
Speaker 2: But then... There's always that weird fear that, like, could
1:00:38
Speaker 2: my kid be the one that goes into school with
1:00:40
Speaker 2: the guns? Could my kid be the one that, you know,
1:00:42
Speaker 2: rapes a girl or becomes a serial killer? So you
1:00:44
Speaker 2: always worry about that. You don't worry that really that
1:00:47
Speaker 2: your daughter is going to be a destructive. But then
1:00:48
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life, you're worried that your
1:00:50
Speaker 2: daughter could be kidnapped or killed. But as a parent,
1:00:53
Speaker 2: that's it. But the good news is I none of
1:00:57
Speaker 2: my kids are the signs of serial killers. However, I am.
1:01:00
Speaker 2: I'm a Gemini.
1:01:02
Speaker 4: Has Peter locked the knife drawers? Has he done any extra?
1:01:07
Speaker 4: Does he have you taste food first?
1:01:09
Speaker 2: I definitely am the farthest thing from a serial killer.
1:01:12
Speaker 2: I would gross out by any kind of hurt. I've
1:01:16
Speaker 2: never actually even gotten in a physical fight. I think
1:01:19
Speaker 2: I pushed my sister once when I was eight. I've
1:01:22
Speaker 2: never to actually touch someone or kill them or anything. No.
1:01:26
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I think I've been angry enough... But
1:01:29
Speaker 4: I'm not good with blood.
1:01:30
Speaker 2: Yes. Horrible.
1:01:31
Speaker 4: So like I'm really– I would be really– I don't
1:01:35
Speaker 4: know how I would do it. I like gross things.
1:01:38
Speaker 4: So I don't want to see somebody be poisoned out either,
1:01:40
Speaker 4: like any of that stuff.
1:01:41
Speaker 2: No, we're not.
1:01:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm out.
1:01:42
Speaker 2: But this is a very juicy show.
1:01:46
Speaker 4: I cannot wait to watch this.
1:01:47
Speaker 2: This is called A Friend of the Family. It's Peacock.
1:01:51
Speaker 2: I think you can watch four or five right now.
1:01:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait.
1:01:53
Speaker 2: It's a series that they made, a scripted version of
1:01:56
Speaker 2: the very popular Netflix doc called In Plain Sight, where
1:02:00
Speaker 2: a girl in the 70s, she grew up in a
1:02:02
Speaker 2: Mormon family, became friends with another Mormon family down the
1:02:06
Speaker 2: road in like Idaho or something. And the dad of
1:02:11
Speaker 2: that family, who's married with kids, was such a manipulator.
1:02:15
Speaker 2: He manipulated the entire family. to the point where when
1:02:18
Speaker 2: he took the 12 year old daughter away, they waited
1:02:21
Speaker 2: about three or four days to even tell the police
1:02:24
Speaker 2: because they were like, well, he wouldn't hurt her. And
1:02:27
Speaker 2: so this is a scripted version of it. And it's
1:02:29
Speaker 2: so good. And, um, I really like it. And I don't,
1:02:33
Speaker 2: I didn't watch the whole doc. So I think I
1:02:35
Speaker 2: enjoy it more. Like sometimes when you know too much,
1:02:38
Speaker 2: you're like, but if you don't know that much about it,
1:02:40
Speaker 2: or if you do remember, I think it's really well done.
1:02:43
Speaker 2: And Colin Hanks, Tom Hanks, son, just totally is so
1:02:46
Speaker 2: believable as this character because we saw the real character
1:02:49
Speaker 2: in the documentary and he just captured it. He's really good.
1:02:52
Speaker 4: I watched the doc. I can't wait to watch this.
1:02:55
Speaker 4: These type of stories. I can't get enough of, I
1:02:58
Speaker 4: don't know about you, but like, like the.
1:03:01
Speaker 2: What's interesting is like being that they were Mormon.
1:03:03
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:03:04
Speaker 2: I think the takeaway is that being Mormon is what
1:03:09
Speaker 2: like contributed to them being so easily manipulated. But in
1:03:12
Speaker 2: the end, Being Mormon and having a faith in a
1:03:16
Speaker 2: higher power in Jesus Christ is what kept them going
1:03:19
Speaker 2: after the tragedy and loving each other and staying a family.
1:03:23
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So it's like, it's a
1:03:24
Speaker 2: very weird thing.
1:03:26
Speaker 4: Do you think Mormons, when Scientologists came along, they were like, phew,
1:03:30
Speaker 4: it's not us anymore. We got a snake, but they
1:03:34
Speaker 4: got like spaceships and shit. Do you think they were like, yeah,
1:03:38
Speaker 4: those are the weird ones now?
1:03:40
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the best thing about Mormons that
1:03:42
Speaker 2: people don't talk enough about is besides them being like
1:03:46
Speaker 2: just extremely nice when you meet them in hostesses, but
1:03:51
Speaker 2: they're also like very physically fit because they don't drink
1:03:54
Speaker 2: and they don't have coffee. But they are.
1:03:57
Speaker 4: Kind of prescription pilled out.
1:04:00
Speaker 2: That's happening a lot more now.
1:04:01
Speaker 4: When you go to Utah, do you play Salt Lake
1:04:03
Speaker 4: City at all?
1:04:04
Speaker 2: Well, there's those signs about drug addiction everywhere.
1:04:07
Speaker 4: It's like when you walk down the streets in Utah.
1:04:09
Speaker 2: It's weird.
1:04:10
Speaker 4: Everyone's just kind of smiling. It is kind of weird.
1:04:12
Speaker 4: Everyone's Stepford Wived out. They're high.
1:04:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's very much like old-fashioned. There is all
1:04:19
Speaker 2: of that, but I'm just saying some of the positives
1:04:23
Speaker 2: is like, Just the really wholesomeness of it. Super nice.
1:04:27
Speaker 2: Their biggest thing is like, it's dessert night. That's a
1:04:30
Speaker 2: big thing. That's us going to Vegas for 24 hours
1:04:34
Speaker 2: and going to a nightclub. There's this, want to get
1:04:37
Speaker 2: a sundae? But anyway, this is crazy juicy.
1:04:42
Speaker 4: Watch that.
1:04:43
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of, this is interesting. There's some inside juicy
1:04:46
Speaker 2: scoop I'm going to give you. So Colin Hanks is
1:04:49
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks' son. Yes. I believe from his first wife.
1:04:52
Speaker 2: Chet Hanks has been in the news a lot. And
1:04:55
Speaker 2: he is, I think, the son with Rita Wilson.
1:04:57
Speaker 4: White rapper.
1:04:58
Speaker 2: He's a white rapper. I just recently saw someone filmed
1:05:02
Speaker 2: him at like a family-friendly outdoor event where he was
1:05:06
Speaker 2: cursing and kind of going crazy, talking about sobriety and
1:05:10
Speaker 2: God and I don't know what. So on his Instagram,
1:05:15
Speaker 2: a Juicy Scooper that I follow, who's an aspiring comedian,
1:05:19
Speaker 2: she lives in Vegas, she's very cute. She... sees that
1:05:23
Speaker 2: he does a reel and he says, Hey guys, all
1:05:28
Speaker 2: artists calling all creative people. I am ready to help
1:05:31
Speaker 2: you right now. I have an amazing opportunity. I need
1:05:34
Speaker 2: to hear from musicians, writers, you know, I don't know
1:05:37
Speaker 2: if he said comedians, but he was like musicians, writers,
1:05:39
Speaker 2: you know, anybody in the industry DM me right now.
1:05:43
Speaker 2: So my girl Luella DMs, and I got her permission
1:05:48
Speaker 2: to share this. Okay. He, she, she's like, Oh, I'm
1:05:52
Speaker 2: a comedian. And he goes, um, OK, so she goes, oh,
1:05:54
Speaker 2: I'm sober and I do stand up. And he goes, great,
1:05:57
Speaker 2: let's go. And then what are your goals? And she goes, oh,
1:06:01
Speaker 2: just to keep it going in the mode. I hit
1:06:02
Speaker 2: my your sobriety and I just want to keep going.
1:06:05
Speaker 2: Not sure what the what I should next level up to. Well,
1:06:08
Speaker 2: the next level is dieting to your diet and your mindset.
1:06:11
Speaker 2: And she goes, OK, well, I'm gluten free. I don't
1:06:13
Speaker 2: do sugars. He goes, no, it's about it's OK, but
1:06:17
Speaker 2: it's not that simple for you to achieve your goals.
1:06:19
Speaker 2: That's what he says. You ready for the first steps?
1:06:22
Speaker 6: Oh, no.
1:06:23
Speaker 4: Oh, can I guess?
1:06:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can.
1:06:25
Speaker 4: Okay. So I can't imagine that he's going to go
1:06:29
Speaker 4: straight sex. That seems like he knows he's Chet Hanks
1:06:34
Speaker 4: and he seems inspirational. So I think he is mentioning
1:06:42
Speaker 4: weight twice now. So I think he's going to tell
1:06:44
Speaker 4: her she needs to drop a couple of pounds. Like
1:06:48
Speaker 4: 25 pounds.
1:06:49
Speaker 5: Okay.
1:06:50
Speaker 2: But she really can't lose 25 pounds because she's already
1:06:52
Speaker 2: like fit and tiny.
1:06:54
Speaker 4: Oh, she is.
1:06:54
Speaker 2: And he could see that. Okay.
1:06:56
Speaker 4: All right. Then my second guess is that she's going
1:06:59
Speaker 4: to have to come over to his house to kind
1:07:02
Speaker 4: of show him what her skills are.
1:07:04
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think it's all worse than that. Self-mastery program.
1:07:11
Speaker 2: This is a cut and pasted DM that he sends
1:07:13
Speaker 2: to her. This is how it works. I make you
1:07:15
Speaker 2: a custom daily workout routine with videos on my private
1:07:18
Speaker 2: training app. We talk about your goals and I make
1:07:20
Speaker 2: your perfect meal plan, which we track daily. Our minds
1:07:24
Speaker 2: are our greatest assets or our worst enemy. So I
1:07:26
Speaker 2: will teach you the transcendental meditation technique and various reading
1:07:30
Speaker 2: materials to stimulate spiritual. And I'm guessing those reading materials
1:07:34
Speaker 2: are going to be extra. Stimulate spiritual intellectual growth, cultivating
1:07:38
Speaker 2: a state of peace.
1:07:39
Speaker 4: Wait, he's offering this program?
1:07:41
Speaker 2: Yes, he's the person.
1:07:43
Speaker 4: Oh.
1:07:43
Speaker 2: 24-7 support.
1:07:44
Speaker 4: Chet Hanks is the person?
1:07:45
Speaker 2: Yes. Weekly, 60-minute video calls for a Q & A
1:07:50
Speaker 2: with myself and the team to answer everything about mindset, training,
1:07:54
Speaker 2: and nutrition.
1:07:55
Speaker 4: That sounds like a punishment. I've got to Zoom with
1:07:57
Speaker 4: Chet Hanks for 60 minutes?
1:07:58
Speaker 2: I know, that's what I said.
1:07:59
Speaker 4: Or how do you even know that he's ever going
1:08:01
Speaker 4: to show up?
1:08:03
Speaker 2: Okay, now guess how much?
1:08:05
Speaker 4: But wait.
1:08:05
Speaker 2: You've got to guess how much.
1:08:06
Speaker 4: He's never done anything successfully before.
1:08:09
Speaker 2: Well. Everybody can be a coach. This is what kills me.
1:08:13
Speaker 2: It's like I believe in coaching stuff. I have a
1:08:19
Speaker 2: pitch for moms out there. I have a great pitch
1:08:21
Speaker 2: for moms out there that are looking to do something.
1:08:23
Speaker 4: Okay.
1:08:24
Speaker 2: How about a domestic coach?
1:08:26
Speaker 4: I love that.
1:08:27
Speaker 2: Mom comes in, or wife, or you don't have to
1:08:30
Speaker 2: be a mom. You just know you're a domestic person.
1:08:33
Speaker 2: Maybe you're not a licensed chef, but you know how
1:08:36
Speaker 2: to cook. You know every, you can figure out how
1:08:38
Speaker 2: to work the oven. Come to someone's house, show them,
1:08:42
Speaker 2: this is how you do a roasted chicken. This is
1:08:44
Speaker 2: how you work the oven. Did you know that this
1:08:46
Speaker 2: is what the broil is for? By the way. This
1:08:47
Speaker 2: is how you warm a thing. This, da, da, da, da.
1:08:50
Speaker 2: How do I redo my air filters? I'm going to
1:08:52
Speaker 2: show you. And then, And then you can call me
1:08:55
Speaker 2: anytime and I'm your person to come by and help you, whatever.
1:08:59
Speaker 4: You're describing to me. what I would consider to be,
1:09:01
Speaker 4: at this age, my perfect threesome.
1:09:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:09:04
Speaker 4: I don't need another dick or another vagina, but someone
1:09:07
Speaker 4: to show me how to change the air filters.
1:09:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:09:09
Speaker 4: That would be pretty cool.
1:09:11
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I have another friend who's a divorce coach,
1:09:15
Speaker 2: Alex Kapp.
1:09:15
Speaker 4: Is that a real thing?
1:09:16
Speaker 2: She got her coaching... Because there's a class you can
1:09:19
Speaker 2: take about being coached.
1:09:20
Speaker 4: But what does that mean, divorce coach? You sit down
1:09:21
Speaker 4: with the two people?
1:09:22
Speaker 2: It's kind of brilliant in that you could go to
1:09:26
Speaker 2: her and she can... Let's say you're thinking about getting
1:09:28
Speaker 2: a divorce or you're getting a divorce. She can help
1:09:30
Speaker 2: you with a lot of stuff. that you shouldn't be
1:09:34
Speaker 2: asking your attorney about because they're charging you $ 500 an hour.
1:09:36
Speaker 4: But are you sitting, is this something that the husband
1:09:39
Speaker 4: and wife are doing together?
1:09:40
Speaker 2: I don't know. It could be whatever you want, but
1:09:43
Speaker 2: she'll walk you through how to have like a good divorce,
1:09:44
Speaker 2: but she'll also give you the tips. So I'm like,
1:09:46
Speaker 2: you could actually call her and be like, I'm thinking
1:09:49
Speaker 2: about it. She'd be like, okay, these are the five
1:09:50
Speaker 2: things you need to do the two months before you
1:09:52
Speaker 2: spring on your husband. Stuff like that. Like get your
1:09:55
Speaker 2: ducks in a row. Right. Okay. So I'm not against
1:09:58
Speaker 2: people creating careers as coaches.
1:10:00
Speaker 6: I agree.
1:10:01
Speaker 2: But when it involves food and weight loss, I do
1:10:04
Speaker 2: think you should be a trainer or a nutritionist.
1:10:06
Speaker 4: Can I ask you about this, dude? So this hasn't
1:10:09
Speaker 4: told me how long this program lasts. So that's hard
1:10:14
Speaker 4: for me to judge.
1:10:14
Speaker 2: I'm going to get right to it.
1:10:16
Speaker 4: I can't. Is it $ 1, 500?
1:10:18
Speaker 2: No. It's $ 299 a month, but I give you a
1:10:19
Speaker 2: deal for an extra commitment. $ 750 for three months, $ 1, 299
1:10:24
Speaker 2: for six months, or for the whole year, $ 1, 999, two grand.
1:10:29
Speaker 2: Or stop if you really want to get to the
1:10:31
Speaker 2: level of Chet Hanks, son of Oscar winner. 60-minute one-on-one
1:10:37
Speaker 2: Zoom video call per week.
1:10:38
Speaker 4: Pass.
1:10:38
Speaker 2: We already got that at the $ 2. 99 deal. Weekly reflection
1:10:42
Speaker 2: core principle sheet. So you're just going to get a
1:10:45
Speaker 2: ditto sheet like we were in kids here?
1:10:47
Speaker 4: There's a printout. Do you know what's funny about that, Heather?
1:10:49
Speaker 4: When people put things like weekly reflection core principle sheet,
1:10:53
Speaker 4: That's one of those things where I, like, I know
1:10:56
Speaker 4: what all of those words mean individually, but together in
1:10:58
Speaker 4: that sentence, I have no idea what that means all together.
1:11:02
Speaker 2: Weekly non-negotiable tasks. So now you're just non-negotiable. He's just
1:11:08
Speaker 2: going to yell at me and, like, make me do
1:11:10
Speaker 2: 20 sit-ups or I don't know.
1:11:11
Speaker 4: Does he not know who he is?
1:11:13
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, he's been, right, exactly. Talk about privilege, okay, right?
1:11:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
1:11:18
Speaker 2: Life, business, and personal growth focus because he's grown so
1:11:21
Speaker 2: many businesses, right?
1:11:23
Speaker 4: He's chad hanks like he's a okay yeah have.
1:11:27
Speaker 2: You heard any of his raps uh no but i
1:11:29
Speaker 2: mean he's not mark cuban you know like it's not
1:11:32
Speaker 2: like i'm getting a weekly call with mark cuban or
1:11:34
Speaker 2: like and i mean come on anybody.
1:11:38
Speaker 4: With business acumen at all yeah no.
1:11:40
Speaker 2: Custom nutrition plan 24 7 direct access to me so
1:11:44
Speaker 2: what i'm gonna call you at 3 a.m and you're
1:11:46
Speaker 2: gonna answer.
1:11:47
Speaker 4: Is his body that great Am I missing something?
1:11:49
Speaker 2: He's kind of cute, but like.
1:11:50
Speaker 4: But how old is he? Like, when you're 35, it's
1:11:52
Speaker 4: not that.
1:11:53
Speaker 2: Hard to have him. Anyway, guess how much. Guess how much.
1:11:54
Speaker 2: Don't look at the screen.
1:11:56
Speaker 4: For the elite part?
1:11:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, elite.
1:11:59
Speaker 4: He's 32. He's 32. $ 2, 000 a month.
1:12:01
Speaker 2: I think you already looked. You liar.
1:12:02
Speaker 4: I guessed $ 2, 000 a month the first time.
1:12:04
Speaker 2: It's $ 2, 000 a month, but for three months, you can
1:12:07
Speaker 2: get it for.
1:12:08
Speaker 4: $ 5, 000. Which part? Let me ask you. If you could
1:12:13
Speaker 4: pick one of those things... Yeah. that even looks... You
1:12:16
Speaker 4: were like, yeah, I might do that. Do any of
1:12:18
Speaker 4: those look inviting to you? Because the 60-minute Zoom call,
1:12:22
Speaker 4: I don't even want to do with Beth.
1:12:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to do it.
1:12:25
Speaker 4: A 60-minute Zoom call sounds horrible.
1:12:28
Speaker 2: I know.
1:12:28
Speaker 4: I can't imagine anybody that I want to do that with.
1:12:31
Speaker 4: Neither do I. Okay, so that's off the list. A
1:12:34
Speaker 4: weekly reflection call. I don't know what that means.
1:12:37
Speaker 2: I mean, basically, if you get this, and you were
1:12:40
Speaker 2: really serious, and I doubt Chet's going to stick to
1:12:42
Speaker 2: his word. I don't know. Like, this is like your, like,
1:12:46
Speaker 2: what is this? Like, you're just talking to this person
1:12:48
Speaker 2: this whole, no, he's just gonna, he probably has good
1:12:51
Speaker 2: intention of saying, if I get a client, I will
1:12:54
Speaker 2: do this for the person. But I mean, the person
1:12:56
Speaker 2: that would sign up for this. The only reason I'd
1:12:58
Speaker 2: want someone to sign up for it, if they were like,
1:13:00
Speaker 2: can we also film it as a documentary?
1:13:01
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Like, I need to see. Heather,
1:13:03
Speaker 4: we can't go halfsies with this girl. We can't go
1:13:06
Speaker 4: halfsies on $ 2. 99 a month for three months just to see.
1:13:09
Speaker 2: Well, being that now we've talked about it on Juicy Soup,
1:13:10
Speaker 2: he's probably not going to take her on as a client.
1:13:12
Speaker 4: Just to see? Couldn't we find somebody just to see
1:13:15
Speaker 4: what it is? I mean, I'm so curious what this
1:13:19
Speaker 4: dude's weekly non-negotiable tasks are.
1:13:22
Speaker 2: Okay, Juicy. I'm so curious. What's the thing that they say? Like, I...
1:13:27
Speaker 2: I volunteer for tribute.
1:13:30
Speaker 6: What is it?
1:13:31
Speaker 4: Do you volunteer as tribute? This to me seems like
1:13:33
Speaker 4: it's worth the entertainment value alone to have a monthly check-in.
1:13:39
Speaker 2: Sadly, I think it would be that you give your
1:13:41
Speaker 2: money and then you never hear from him. And then
1:13:44
Speaker 2: I mentioned it on Juicy Scoop and finally he's like,
1:13:46
Speaker 2: fuck you. I thought you were my friend and gives
1:13:48
Speaker 2: half back. That's what I think what would happen.
1:13:50
Speaker 4: Okay. Or you get great content and he comes in
1:13:54
Speaker 4: and sits down.
1:13:56
Speaker 2: Hey, Chet, you want to sell this thing?
1:13:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude.
1:14:00
Speaker 2: Come on down. Come on. You don't have to split
1:14:02
Speaker 2: the time with Ned from Try Guys. I will do
1:14:06
Speaker 2: two different episodes. Okay, I have another one. I have
1:14:09
Speaker 2: another one for you.
1:14:10
Speaker 4: Okay.
1:14:11
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the show Sister Wives?
1:14:13
Speaker 4: Very familiar.
1:14:14
Speaker 2: Oh, you are? Great. So Sister Wives is a show
1:14:16
Speaker 2: that is so boring, I can't stop watching it. It's
1:14:19
Speaker 2: been on forever. Cody has four wives at one time
1:14:24
Speaker 2: for three years of the season. They lived in a
1:14:26
Speaker 2: perfect cul-de-sac in three TV seasons. They lived in a cul-de-sac,
1:14:32
Speaker 2: which worked out great. Each wife had their own home
1:14:35
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, and you could pop around and go.
1:14:37
Speaker 2: Then he got the idea of, I bought this land
1:14:39
Speaker 2: called Coyote Pass out in Flagstaff, Arizona. They did that
1:14:43
Speaker 2: three years ago. They've never built on it. And then
1:14:45
Speaker 2: they moved there, and they all have to live so
1:14:47
Speaker 2: far away. from each other because there was no houses
1:14:50
Speaker 2: close by, that they end up not doing stuff together altogether.
1:14:55
Speaker 2: And he really was only sleeping, in my opinion, with
1:14:58
Speaker 2: wife number four. And then COVID happens, and then he's
1:15:01
Speaker 2: a COVID freak about it and never sees any of
1:15:04
Speaker 2: his other kids or wives. And so now this one
1:15:06
Speaker 2: who's off to the side, Christine, she's like, I'm out.
1:15:09
Speaker 2: I don't fucking care.
1:15:10
Speaker 4: Okay?
1:15:11
Speaker 2: Giselle and I are going to get an apartment together,
1:15:13
Speaker 2: and we're fucking done with you. Okay?
1:15:16
Speaker 4: So....
1:15:18
Speaker 2: This girl, Mary, the one in the green, she's wife
1:15:21
Speaker 2: number one. She also has been selling LuLaRue leggings, which
1:15:28
Speaker 2: is a multi-level marketing thing, which also had a huge
1:15:32
Speaker 2: documentary about how it wasn't cool and how many women
1:15:36
Speaker 2: lost their money by buying all the ugly leggings and
1:15:39
Speaker 2: nobody wanted them or they'd get the ugly leggings and
1:15:41
Speaker 2: they were moldy or they'd be sent out to their people. Okay,
1:15:44
Speaker 2: there's a whole documentary on it, so. Anyway, she's got
1:15:47
Speaker 2: to find a way to make some money, in my opinion,
1:15:50
Speaker 2: being that they've lost one income because all these wives
1:15:53
Speaker 2: help take care of all the properties. Everybody works. Everyone
1:15:57
Speaker 2: has other jobs besides being on the show. How little
1:16:00
Speaker 2: does TLC pay these four people? I don't know because
1:16:03
Speaker 2: they don't live a lavish life at all. Without a
1:16:07
Speaker 2: crystal ball brought it to my attention. This is an
1:16:10
Speaker 2: Instagram account. that Mary Brown is selling a retreat with
1:16:14
Speaker 2: no details and no itinerary, only empowerment and activities. So
1:16:18
Speaker 2: I went, she goes, beware, she might be using this
1:16:20
Speaker 2: to rope you into an MLM. So she says, okay,
1:16:25
Speaker 2: hey guys, I want to talk to you about the retreat.
1:16:27
Speaker 2: This is At fun activities, you get a goodie bag.
1:16:30
Speaker 2: It's women empowerment. I'm like, women empowerment? You were the
1:16:33
Speaker 2: first wife of four. You actually divorced your husband so
1:16:37
Speaker 2: that he could legally marry wife number four and adopt
1:16:39
Speaker 2: her kids. You gave up your title as actual legal wife. Okay,
1:16:43
Speaker 2: that's not very empowering. And then you started to flirt
1:16:46
Speaker 2: with someone online and you were catfished. You thought he
1:16:49
Speaker 2: was a dude. It was a woman.
1:16:51
Speaker 4: That happened to her?
1:16:52
Speaker 2: That happened to her. But now, if you want to
1:16:55
Speaker 2: get some women empowerment, you're going to go... to Southern
1:16:58
Speaker 2: Utah and it's $ 4, 500. You arrive Thursday at three o'clock.
1:17:05
Speaker 2: We talk, we have some activities and then we're not
1:17:08
Speaker 2: going to tell you what it is. It's really fun activity.
1:17:10
Speaker 2: You keep saying, I'm not going to tell you. You
1:17:12
Speaker 2: have to apply. Okay. You have to apply. And the
1:17:15
Speaker 2: application is like email, name, address, age, where, what you do,
1:17:20
Speaker 2: stuff about you. And, um, a couple other, not your
1:17:25
Speaker 2: social security number, but like basically anything else.
1:17:27
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:17:27
Speaker 2: So it's like, could she sell that info or is
1:17:30
Speaker 2: she trying to find a person that might be a
1:17:32
Speaker 2: good potential wife? She's like, Oh sure. You can bring
1:17:35
Speaker 2: your husband if you want. Um, and, but only the
1:17:40
Speaker 2: people who are the VIP, which it's, I think it's $ 6, 000
1:17:45
Speaker 2: get to stay in the Airbnb, which looks like a
1:17:49
Speaker 2: grandma's house. Okay. By the way, It's not an Airbnb.
1:17:53
Speaker 2: It's a bed and breakfast.
1:17:53
Speaker 4: What's in the goodie bag? Is it like a Capri Sun?
1:17:57
Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's a Capri Sun.
1:17:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, like an apple?
1:18:00
Speaker 2: Yes, an apple, a pair of LuLaRue leggings.
1:18:05
Speaker 4: Some special underwear?
1:18:07
Speaker 2: Yes.
1:18:08
Speaker 4: Secret idea.
1:18:10
Speaker 2: Now, this she didn't say, but another person reported. So allegedly,
1:18:15
Speaker 2: if you do get chosen... You cannot ask one thing
1:18:20
Speaker 2: about Sister Wives or the show.
1:18:22
Speaker 4: Why the fuck would you go? Why?
1:18:24
Speaker 2: Because I was literally like, can I pay a juicy
1:18:27
Speaker 2: scooper to go? And then you sign an NDA just
1:18:30
Speaker 2: in case she or anybody slips info.
1:18:34
Speaker 4: But, but, so she's not, there's no reason you would
1:18:37
Speaker 4: go to her for these things she's offering.
1:18:40
Speaker 2: She's not. This is what you get to, gets included.
1:18:42
Speaker 2: Four days, three nights accommodations in beautiful Southern Utah.
1:18:46
Speaker 4: Okay.
1:18:48
Speaker 2: Three meals for the two full meals. days, dinner on
1:18:51
Speaker 2: the first night, breakfast on the last morning. Two to
1:18:54
Speaker 2: five daily activities. Just two to five. Might only be two.
1:18:57
Speaker 2: It might be just a walk and then a meditation. Okay.
1:19:00
Speaker 4: Two to five. All right.
1:19:02
Speaker 2: Morning mindfulness and evening fire pit hangs. We get to
1:19:06
Speaker 2: have s'mores.
1:19:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is.
1:19:07
Speaker 2: And like, laugh, but don't ask about sister wives. Don't
1:19:11
Speaker 2: ask how much you hate Cody or Robin or when
1:19:14
Speaker 2: you found out Christine was leaving. A goodie bag, LuLaRue leggings,
1:19:18
Speaker 2: hopefully they won't be moldy, and a Capri Sun and
1:19:21
Speaker 2: an apple. Transportation during the retreat, we get a shitty
1:19:25
Speaker 2: van to go probably hike up some Utah mountain. Photos
1:19:29
Speaker 2: of the retreat. Oh, thank you. Someone has an iPhone?
1:19:33
Speaker 4: What is happening?
1:19:34
Speaker 2: And can do an airdrop?
1:19:35
Speaker 4: This is $ 4, 000?
1:19:37
Speaker 2: It's $ 6, 000 if you want to stay in one of
1:19:42
Speaker 2: the four bedrooms in her bed and breakfast that she
1:19:45
Speaker 2: owned with her mother. They probably go down this. They
1:19:47
Speaker 2: shouldn't stay with the other. Those are other combinations. We
1:19:50
Speaker 2: don't know if it's a Motel 6 or what.
1:19:52
Speaker 4: Like horses? Like a city slicker situation? Or what are
1:19:54
Speaker 4: we talking about?
1:19:56
Speaker 2: She goes, I'm not going to tell you anything about it.
1:19:57
Speaker 2: So we don't know what the activities are. We don't
1:19:59
Speaker 2: know if it's horseback riding. We don't know if it's
1:20:02
Speaker 2: climbing up a hill. We don't know if it's one
1:20:04
Speaker 2: of those things where you go in a cave. And
1:20:06
Speaker 2: they don't give you any water so that you see
1:20:08
Speaker 2: light or whatever and then die.
1:20:10
Speaker 4: I don't know. Are you more curious about this or
1:20:11
Speaker 4: Chet Hanks?
1:20:11
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's what it is. Don't sue me, Mary.
1:20:13
Speaker 4: Are you more curious about this or Chet Hanks?
1:20:16
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, I'm still– I'm more curious
1:20:17
Speaker 2: about this.
1:20:18
Speaker 4: I'm more curious about Chet Hanks. I really am dying
1:20:21
Speaker 4: to know what that 60-minute– I'm going to have to
1:20:23
Speaker 4: pay somebody to do this. Just– I'm going to have
1:20:26
Speaker 4: to video– what is that 60-minute conversation?
1:20:29
Speaker 2: I'm guessing you can't ask about his dad and his portfolio. Yeah.
1:20:34
Speaker 4: I might pay somebody to do it for three months.
1:20:37
Speaker 4: If I do, can I come back on?
1:20:38
Speaker 2: Can you ask him to do the Forrest Gump voice?
1:20:40
Speaker 2: Probably not.
1:20:41
Speaker 4: Can I come back on and talk about it if
1:20:43
Speaker 4: I pay for someone to do it for three months?
1:20:45
Speaker 2: A hundred percent. Oh, yeah.
1:20:47
Speaker 4: Then we're going to do this.
1:20:49
Speaker 2: And I need to be part of it.
1:20:51
Speaker 4: I mean, can't we just have her do it?
1:20:54
Speaker 2: No, that's too much time. Oh, yeah. And I don't
1:20:58
Speaker 2: want to be mind-screwed by Cheyenne. No, we're not.
1:21:04
Speaker 4: Good point.
1:21:04
Speaker 2: I'm not offering up Annie for sacrifice.
1:21:07
Speaker 4: But you and I should pick the right tribute.
1:21:10
Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately, this girl Luella probably would have done
1:21:14
Speaker 2: it if I paid for her to do it and
1:21:15
Speaker 2: made her a Juicy Scoop spy, but now we've revealed
1:21:17
Speaker 2: it all.
1:21:18
Speaker 4: You and I will maybe have to do a little undercover,
1:21:20
Speaker 4: but I'm happy... This, to me, is like, I've never
1:21:24
Speaker 4: been more curious about what somebody was selling. Because he
1:21:27
Speaker 4: has no skill set, which is interesting.
1:21:29
Speaker 2: You know who's also a life coach is Troy Spelling's brother.
1:21:34
Speaker 2: The brother. What's his name? What's the brother's name?
1:21:37
Speaker 4: Bob Spelling?
1:21:38
Speaker 2: No. No, I can't remember his name.
1:21:40
Speaker 4: I didn't know she had a brother.
1:21:41
Speaker 2: She had a brother that got to be on a
1:21:43
Speaker 2: couple of the shows in the beginning. He was like
1:21:46
Speaker 2: a secondary. There was like a spinoff of 90210. Randy
1:21:50
Speaker 2: spelling is, and he looks pretty great. And he has
1:21:52
Speaker 2: like a normal life. I don't know if he really
1:21:54
Speaker 2: does it, but like, again, I, a life coach from
1:21:58
Speaker 2: like the richest kid in Beverly Hills. Like that's, I mean,
1:22:02
Speaker 2: think about who you're hiring as a life coach. Like,
1:22:05
Speaker 2: you know, like I understand people have coaches for their
1:22:07
Speaker 2: jobs or whatever. And if you're in sales, it might
1:22:09
Speaker 2: really help to have someone that's like, wake up asshole. Like,
1:22:12
Speaker 2: do you make your 10 full calls today? Like I
1:22:15
Speaker 2: get that, but like, What's this person helping you with?
1:22:18
Speaker 2: It's just so weird.
1:22:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. But we're, by the way, I'm doing this.
1:22:23
Speaker 4: Chuck Hanks is getting my money. Gladly.
1:22:26
Speaker 2: This was a weird thing I saw on TikTok. This
1:22:29
Speaker 2: comes from, whoa, that is strange, okay, on TikTok. And
1:22:35
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga comes out. Now, this could be fake. I
1:22:39
Speaker 2: don't know. And she's dancing in her thing and it's
1:22:42
Speaker 2: like dark and she's got this outfit on. And someone
1:22:45
Speaker 2: threw what looked to be a book, and it bounced
1:22:48
Speaker 2: off something. So people are saying, well, maybe there's just
1:22:52
Speaker 2: glass in front of the stage to protect her. And
1:22:55
Speaker 2: other people are like, but what if it's a full-blown hologram?
1:23:00
Speaker 4: Wow.
1:23:00
Speaker 2: What if she's not even there? Is there a video
1:23:02
Speaker 2: that we can see?
1:23:04
Speaker 4: Well— Did you see the video?
1:23:06
Speaker 2: I did see the video and I just took a
1:23:08
Speaker 2: photo of it.
1:23:08
Speaker 4: Does it look like it bounced?
1:23:09
Speaker 2: Yes. It looks like it's hitting a piece of glass
1:23:11
Speaker 2: and it bounces right off.
1:23:12
Speaker 4: Well, I will tell you, you saw that comedian get
1:23:16
Speaker 4: that beer can thrown at her.
1:23:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that.
1:23:17
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:23:18
Speaker 4: So as a performer and especially somebody like her who's
1:23:22
Speaker 4: performing in front of hundreds of people.
1:23:25
Speaker 2: I just think it's a piece of glass. I think
1:23:26
Speaker 2: it's her. I don't think it's a hologram.
1:23:27
Speaker 4: I agree with you 100%.
1:23:28
Speaker 2: So maybe it's not that juicy.
1:23:29
Speaker 4: But by the way, I would die to see one
1:23:34
Speaker 4: of her concerts. She seems like she would put on
1:23:36
Speaker 4: the best show.
1:23:37
Speaker 2: What do you mean you'd die? You have money. Just
1:23:39
Speaker 2: fucking buy a ticket, loser.
1:23:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then I'd be really embarrassed to go.
1:23:42
Speaker 2: Oh, shut up.
1:23:43
Speaker 4: Which would be better? What's more embarrassed for me to go?
1:23:46
Speaker 4: To Miley Cyrus' concert, which I want to go to?
1:23:48
Speaker 2: Oh.
1:23:49
Speaker 4: Go to Miley Cyrus. I want to go see that
1:23:51
Speaker 4: so bad.
1:23:51
Speaker 2: I love her singing. I would rather go to Miley
1:23:54
Speaker 2: Cyrus than Lady Gaga. No offense to Lady Gaga. I
1:23:58
Speaker 2: just like, I really like Miley Cyrus's style and her
1:24:01
Speaker 2: voice and her songs. I love when she redoes songs.
1:24:04
Speaker 4: Me too.
1:24:04
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:24:05
Speaker 4: She's singing a lot of rock songs. I'll tell you
1:24:07
Speaker 4: why I like her. I'm so just enamored with people
1:24:13
Speaker 4: who are that secure with themselves.
1:24:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:24:16
Speaker 4: It's so watchable to watch somebody who doesn't give.
1:24:19
Speaker 2: A fuck and she's someone that's sort of like you
1:24:21
Speaker 2: know was a child star and kind of struggled a
1:24:24
Speaker 2: little bit in there but really now found herself and
1:24:27
Speaker 2: is doing great and you know I remember that last
1:24:30
Speaker 2: episode but she has good parents she does she has
1:24:32
Speaker 2: good parents that are like.
1:24:33
Speaker 4: Last episode of Chelsea Lately I really wanted to get
1:24:35
Speaker 4: a picture with her right but I was embarrassed yeah
1:24:37
Speaker 4: so I tell Jacob I go hey here's the deal
1:24:40
Speaker 4: you were gonna walk up I'm gonna say hey can
1:24:42
Speaker 4: I get a picture of you and my son and
1:24:45
Speaker 4: she'll say yes And then when you are with her, say, hey, dad,
1:24:48
Speaker 4: I want you to get in this picture with me.
1:24:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:24:51
Speaker 4: So I don't have to be embarrassed and ask Miley
1:24:53
Speaker 4: for a picture, right? And he goes, okay. So he
1:24:55
Speaker 4: walks up and I do it. I go, hey, will
1:24:56
Speaker 4: you take a picture with my son? She goes, yeah.
1:24:58
Speaker 4: And they put their arm around it. And Jacob goes,
1:25:01
Speaker 4: I got to tell you, I didn't want the picture.
1:25:03
Speaker 2: He did.
1:25:04
Speaker 4: He was just embarrassed to ask. And she was like,
1:25:05
Speaker 4: I know. She was like, get in the picture. He
1:25:07
Speaker 4: threw me smooth under the bus, but she was like, yeah, dude,
1:25:12
Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of dudes this age. They all,
1:25:15
Speaker 4: they're all looking for pictures of me.
1:25:16
Speaker 2: And she's so cool. But she's also really cool and gracious.
1:25:19
Speaker 2: Like I've seen other. Okay. Madonna. People are freaked out
1:25:24
Speaker 2: about her look.
1:25:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is not.
1:25:28
Speaker 2: She now has pink hair and she's doing this thing
1:25:31
Speaker 2: that's becoming in fashion again, which I hate, which is
1:25:33
Speaker 2: bleaching the brows.
1:25:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that looks good either.
1:25:36
Speaker 2: So that is the worst look on everybody. I hate it.
1:25:38
Speaker 4: Especially with whatever she's done to her face there.
1:25:41
Speaker 2: And I just want to say what's kind of sad is, like,
1:25:47
Speaker 2: you're Madonna. Like, just fucking let it go. Like, you
1:25:50
Speaker 2: could still have plastic surgery and stuff. But stop with
1:25:53
Speaker 2: the grill. Stop with the fake ass. Like, this is
1:25:57
Speaker 2: what her outfit should just be. Like, a black catsuit,
1:26:00
Speaker 2: some cool motorcycle boots. Because when you're 63, you don't
1:26:03
Speaker 2: want to wear heels.
1:26:04
Speaker 4: Yep.
1:26:05
Speaker 2: And just, like, a leather jacket and some jewels.
1:26:07
Speaker 4: By the way, she can still work out and look good.
1:26:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, and let your blonde hair go and just be, like,
1:26:11
Speaker 2: cool and not be, like, trying so hard. Like, just–
1:26:15
Speaker 2: that's what kind of bums me out. Like, it's just scary.
1:26:18
Speaker 2: You don't need to do TikTok trends.
1:26:21
Speaker 4: No.
1:26:21
Speaker 2: Like, be a mentor to other singers and just be
1:26:24
Speaker 2: a cool fucking Madonna.
1:26:26
Speaker 4: At some point– here's the deal. For real– and I
1:26:29
Speaker 4: don't have my glasses. So when the picture first came up,
1:26:32
Speaker 4: I'm like, what is Mickey Rourke doing? Yeah. I was like,
1:26:35
Speaker 4: and then I looked at him. I go, that's Madonna.
1:26:37
Speaker 2: It's like that mask face.
1:26:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right.
1:26:41
Speaker 2: But it's a hard thing. I mean, it's, and we're
1:26:44
Speaker 2: all aging and it's hard. Cause it's like, I'm like,
1:26:46
Speaker 2: Oh fuck. Like I get why you want to do it.
1:26:49
Speaker 2: And some people do it really well. And some people
1:26:51
Speaker 2: have a good face for aging and some don't.
1:26:54
Speaker 4: But you have to make some choices.
1:26:56
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:26:56
Speaker 4: So I'll tell you for me, The choice that I've
1:26:59
Speaker 4: made is I know my face has gotten a lot thinner,
1:27:04
Speaker 4: but that's just because I like the way I work out.
1:27:07
Speaker 4: So I know at my age, it's not going to
1:27:08
Speaker 4: hold on to the fat on my face.
1:27:10
Speaker 2: Right, right.
1:27:11
Speaker 4: You just have to choose. As you get older, it's
1:27:14
Speaker 4: not going to look perfect anymore.
1:27:15
Speaker 1: Right.
1:27:16
Speaker 2: Got to let it go.
1:27:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to let it go, especially
1:27:18
Speaker 4: your fucking Madonna.
1:27:20
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It kind of makes sense
1:27:23
Speaker 2: that of the rock stars like her, who's now in
1:27:28
Speaker 2: their sixties that she's still chasing the fit. Like if
1:27:31
Speaker 2: you look at her life and how she lived it
1:27:34
Speaker 2: and how she always needed to be the center of attention.
1:27:37
Speaker 2: I mean, she always needed to be the cutting edge.
1:27:38
Speaker 2: She changed her style of time versus like, um, you know,
1:27:43
Speaker 2: Rita Mac, Reba McIntyre or something like who continues on
1:27:48
Speaker 2: to perform, but like, didn't feel like, Oh, I have
1:27:50
Speaker 2: to go with every trend or whatever. And it's not
1:27:53
Speaker 2: like she, that makes her a bad person. It's just like,
1:27:57
Speaker 2: It's like I think we could pick who in society
1:27:59
Speaker 2: will go with the times and still remain relevant in
1:28:04
Speaker 2: like a cool, respectable way and who will be wearing
1:28:07
Speaker 2: grills and a fake ass at 65. Does she have
1:28:09
Speaker 2: a fake ass?
1:28:10
Speaker 4: I didn't see that.
1:28:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:28:12
Speaker 4: You know, and I'll tell you something. I was always
1:28:14
Speaker 4: like her workout routines must have been crazy.
1:28:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:28:19
Speaker 4: But there are ways like Goldie Hawn.
1:28:23
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:28:23
Speaker 4: She looks great. She's done some whatevers. Everybody does whatevers.
1:28:28
Speaker 2: I don't even think it's about plastic surgery. I think
1:28:29
Speaker 2: it's about trying to stay with the trends and the
1:28:33
Speaker 2: youth and the outfits and the like, the fake ass
1:28:37
Speaker 2: of 63. Like, I'm just like.
1:28:39
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:28:39
Speaker 2: And even if you got one, just because you like
1:28:42
Speaker 2: the way it looks when you're naked or in a
1:28:44
Speaker 2: bathing suit or with your boyfriend, then you don't need
1:28:47
Speaker 2: to wear a G-string and, like, fishnets. But someone else
1:28:51
Speaker 2: would go, fuck you, Heather. Like, you're not being a feminist.
1:28:53
Speaker 2: Let her be what she wants to be.
1:28:54
Speaker 4: Okay, fine, fine. But here's the deal. Here's what I
1:28:56
Speaker 4: would say. I agree with... And by the way, two
1:28:58
Speaker 4: things can be true at the same time.
1:29:00
Speaker 2: Right.
1:29:00
Speaker 4: I do agree. Yo, do what you want to do. Yeah.
1:29:04
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? This is your life.
1:29:06
Speaker 4: But this looks sad. Right. This looks like somebody who
1:29:11
Speaker 4: doesn't feel good about themselves and is just trying, trying, trying, trying. But, like,
1:29:16
Speaker 4: if she showed up... Dude, I've changed my... clothing style
1:29:20
Speaker 4: so much in the last two years, so it's hard
1:29:22
Speaker 4: for me to comment on other people's. But, like, it
1:29:24
Speaker 4: just seems, this feels a little sad.
1:29:26
Speaker 2: She's fucking Madonna! That's what I think, you're Madonna.
1:29:29
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:29:29
Speaker 2: Okay, so, Josh, tell everybody what the latest thing you're
1:29:33
Speaker 2: working on and how much they're going to love it.
1:29:35
Speaker 4: So, I shot ten episodes of this show with my son, Jacob.
1:29:40
Speaker 4: It's a father-son competition show. We challenge each other to
1:29:43
Speaker 4: things and the loser has to do, like, an embarrassing punishment.
1:29:47
Speaker 4: I pitched this to a bunch of networks and And
1:29:49
Speaker 4: every time I did, they tried to tell me what
1:29:51
Speaker 4: the show was or what it wasn't or why it
1:29:53
Speaker 4: wouldn't work. And then I was like, fuck it. And
1:29:55
Speaker 4: so I was saying that people like you inspired me
1:29:57
Speaker 4: because I was like, I'm just going to do this myself.
1:29:59
Speaker 4: I'm going to shoot it myself. I'm going to fund
1:30:00
Speaker 4: it myself. I'm going to write it myself. I'm going
1:30:02
Speaker 4: to tell you it's the best thing I've ever done.
1:30:04
Speaker 2: That is so awesome. And I love that you're working
1:30:06
Speaker 2: with him. He's always been such a good boy from
1:30:09
Speaker 2: the moment I met him. And like, I love that
1:30:11
Speaker 2: you guys work together and, you know, it's great.
1:30:15
Speaker 4: It's if you... A hundred percent a show you could
1:30:18
Speaker 4: watch with your teenager, probably not a little, not younger
1:30:21
Speaker 4: than that, but it's fun. It's called Family Tussle. It's
1:30:24
Speaker 4: on my YouTube channel. It premieres tomorrow. But it is like,
1:30:28
Speaker 4: and you watched an episode, basically the punishments are rough. Yeah.
1:30:33
Speaker 4: The punishments that we make each other do are rough.
1:30:36
Speaker 4: But like, for example, on one of mine, he made
1:30:39
Speaker 4: me get a tattoo.
1:30:40
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:30:40
Speaker 4: Now I'm not going to say what the tattoo was.
1:30:42
Speaker 4: I don't like it.
1:30:44
Speaker 2: And you really got it?
1:30:44
Speaker 4: Oh, it's on my body right now.
1:30:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
1:30:47
Speaker 4: I actually posted a clip.
1:30:48
Speaker 2: And how many tattoos do you have? You don't have
1:30:50
Speaker 2: that many.
1:30:51
Speaker 4: One, two, three, four, five, now six.
1:30:55
Speaker 2: So that's a pretty big deal to get a tattoo.
1:30:57
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:30:57
Speaker 4: By the way, when Beth saw it, she was like,
1:30:59
Speaker 4: you didn't want to run this past me? And I said, nah,
1:31:04
Speaker 4: I was pretty sure you were going to say no.
1:31:05
Speaker 4: She was like, yeah, this is not, I'm not happy
1:31:07
Speaker 4: with this.
1:31:07
Speaker 2: But it makes for great TV.
1:31:09
Speaker 4: Great TV.
1:31:10
Speaker 2: TV, which is on YouTube. Which I love.
1:31:12
Speaker 4: But my YouTube channel gets more views than the TV networks.
1:31:17
Speaker 2: Oh, I know.
1:31:18
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:31:19
Speaker 2: So how do they go to it to subscribe?
1:31:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, YouTube Joshua Comedy on YouTube. And then it'll follow
1:31:26
Speaker 4: up a week later on Facebook. So you can see
1:31:29
Speaker 4: us on there. And then Jacob and I are touring
1:31:32
Speaker 4: Australia and New Zealand.
1:31:33
Speaker 2: So fun. I wanted to ask you all about that.
1:31:35
Speaker 4: Yeah. Our first show sold out in two days.
1:31:39
Speaker 2: Okay, because people– I know I've got a lot of
1:31:43
Speaker 2: Juicy Scoopers out in Australia. So I'll– well, let's talk
1:31:47
Speaker 2: after about like where you went and stuff because that
1:31:49
Speaker 2: would be really fun, especially if I could make it
1:31:51
Speaker 2: a vacation and bring my family. I just don't want
1:31:53
Speaker 2: to be by myself over there.
1:31:54
Speaker 4: We're going to Australia and New Zealand.
1:31:56
Speaker 2: Fun.
1:31:57
Speaker 4: New Zealand is the best place I've ever visited. It's
1:32:00
Speaker 4: so great.
1:32:01
Speaker 2: Oh, you'd gone before?
1:32:03
Speaker 4: I've done a tour of Australia and New Zealand before.
1:32:05
Speaker 2: Oh, well, then that probably helps, too, that you've been there.
1:32:08
Speaker 2: So much. So much.
1:32:09
Speaker 4: But, Heather, you 100% should go. Remember that we did
1:32:14
Speaker 4: go to Australia once together.
1:32:15
Speaker 6: Yes.
1:32:16
Speaker 2: Yes.
1:32:16
Speaker 4: But this trip, yours would be so much different and
1:32:19
Speaker 4: so cool. And the crowds are amazing. Amazing.
1:32:24
Speaker 2: I know. I love it. I mean, I loved it
1:32:25
Speaker 2: when I was there. When we were in Sydney, I
1:32:28
Speaker 2: was like, you know, Sydney is the best of L.A., Miami...
1:32:35
Speaker 2: And like Toronto.
1:32:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is.
1:32:37
Speaker 2: Like rolled into one, but then it's a whole nother country.
1:32:41
Speaker 4: It's gorgeous.
1:32:41
Speaker 2: Of like just extremely attractive people.
1:32:44
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:32:44
Speaker 4: With that accent.
1:32:46
Speaker 2: Very nice. You're like, oh. Very nice. And a hot accent.
1:32:49
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like.
1:32:51
Speaker 2: And koala bears. I don't know what else anybody else wants.
1:32:54
Speaker 4: By the way, every time when I'm talking about going
1:32:57
Speaker 4: to Australia, people are like, don't pet the koala. They
1:32:59
Speaker 4: got chlamydia. I'm like, what do you think I'm going
1:33:01
Speaker 4: to do? You think I'm fucking the koala? I don't
1:33:03
Speaker 4: need the chlamydia.
1:33:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:33:05
Speaker 4: Warning from the koala bears.
1:33:07
Speaker 2: So funny.
1:33:08
Speaker 4: But I'm excited to go.
1:33:09
Speaker 2: All right, cool.
1:33:11
Speaker 4: Excited to be with Jacob. And guys, here's what I
1:33:14
Speaker 4: would say. It would mean so much if you could
1:33:17
Speaker 4: at least check out the show on YouTube. Look, these people,
1:33:20
Speaker 4: the execs in our business are non-creative people who try
1:33:25
Speaker 4: to make creative decisions all the time. And so I'm
1:33:28
Speaker 4: tired of them telling us what we can and can't do.
1:33:30
Speaker 4: This is great entertainment. It's the best thing I've ever done.
1:33:33
Speaker 4: I can't wait for people to see it.
1:33:35
Speaker 2: Awesome. I love you.
1:33:36
Speaker 4: Bye. Thanks for having me.
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