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- 0:00Hey friends, welcome to a very important podcast on the reality and challenges of dismantling the US Department of Education.
- 0:09So I want to start off before I introduce today's guest by quoting Pete Hegseth, the United States Secretary of Defense, who said,
- 0:20Alex Newman's book in indoctrinating our children to death brings out critical information on the history of the US education system that must be broadly understood by Americans if we are going to turn our country around.
- 0:35Building on the research he shared in my series, The Miseducation of America, Newman exposes the indoctrination taking place in public schools as a direct threat to our children and everything we hold dear.
- 0:50We must address these issues now and this book is the great start. Pete Hegseth and many others endorse this important work and we'll be right back with Alex Newman next.
- 1:03Welcome to World View Matters discussing controversial issues, discerning current events, defending biblical Christianity, no topic off limits.
- 1:17And now here's your host David Fierrozzo.
- 1:22Friends, family and Christ, thank you so much for watching, listening and sharing the podcast and have a very important announcement before we bring Alex Newman CEO of Liberty Sentinel, the Liberty Sentinel.
- 1:32This is episode number 300 on World View Matters. It doesn't seem like it, but yes, we've done 300 and Alex Newman is numero 300.
- 1:46Thank you for having me and thanks for all you do.
- 1:56Thank you so much for joining us.
- 2:06President Trump and Congress discussing the elimination of the Department of Education, understanding the public school system is broken.
- 2:16Many times the government run school system is doing what it was designed to do, even though test scores have been declining year after year, illiteracy is off the charts.
- 2:27Classrooms are a mess chaotic, but you say the schools actually do what they're designed to do.
- 2:33Wouldn't that wouldn't they be successful if they're doing what they're they were designed to do explain that please.
- 2:39Yeah, thank you David and a lot of people don't understand this that's actually been my biggest challenge because everybody understands the schools are producing kids who can't read and write everybody understands that the kids are being confused at the point where they don't know what bathroom to go in, but people all think that this is a failure of the system they say it's broken we have to fix it.
- 2:56And my point is no no no you don't understand why it was created when you understand why it was created and we have smoking and evidence from the creators of this machine you understand it's working really really well from their perspective because their goal was not to create well educated highly literate God fearing patriotic Americans who could sustain Christian civilization for future generations.
- 3:21Their goals range from turning our kids into communist turning our kids against their family turning our kids against the Bible and the God of the Bible and so when you understand that that was the actual objective and this can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt with their own writings you understand wow it's working really really good now to be fair 10 15 20% of the kids might.
- 3:45Through educating themselves on their own and paying good attention to their godly parents and listening to the pastor at church and reading the word of God on their own they might make it through so it's not 100% successful because then they'd be capturing 100% of our young people but it's incredibly successful from the perspective of dumbing down indoctrinating and sexualizing our children and that was the goal all along.
- 4:08Yes and the left the Marxist radical left they're making disciples and they're starting with young children they're accessing kids at younger and younger ages I know I'm preaching to the choir on that but where's the best place I know it's on Amazon where's the best place they can get your book Alex.
- 4:23Amazon certainly the easiest you know I think it's like 1776 and it arrives tomorrow I don't know how they do that I can't do that so if you want to sign a copy they can get it from my website Liberty Sentinel dot org I'll be happy to send it it's also available in the decent bookstores and it can be purchased anywhere good books are sold but you know if you want an easy quick cheap tomorrow Amazon if you don't mind waiting for a signature and paying for shipping you can get it right for my website as well.
- 4:48Okay let's jump to an article that's over at Freedom Project Media at Freedom Project dot com as well as Liberty Sentinel dot org and that is an honors student is suing after graduating without being able to read friends you heard that correctly despite graduating from high school with honors and being accepted to the University of Connecticut on a scholarship there's a 19 year old government school victim Alicia Ortiz cannot read or write at all.
- 5:17Literally and she's not alone tell us more about this Alex I think people have a hard time believing it.
- 5:23Yeah and the reality is Dave and people are shocked when they hear this at least those who can read is this is actually the norm in America we have the data the last time the federal government did a comprehensive literacy survey of American adults they found that 50% of American adults were in the bottom two categories out of five in other words they're functionally illiterate they may be able to recognize the the stop sign and understand that that means stop.
- 5:46But if you give them an essay to read if you put the word of God in front of them as I hear read out of you know second Corinthians what you know no I got to run to the bathroom and that's because they can't read so the only thing that makes this young woman in Connecticut unique is that she decided to file a lawsuit she's 19 years old graduated high school with honors literally cannot read a word literally could not read the high school diploma she received and she is one of tens of millions of victims of this horrific system.
- 6:15Many of them have been told that they have some disability many of them have been told that they're stupid nothing could be further from the truth the reason they're illiterate is the quackery being used in the government schools it was first exposed by the way right when it was tried out in the 1830s 1840s technically under the leadership of Horace man in Boston we've known for 170 years now that this quackery does not work if you want to teach children how to read and yet they continue to use it.
- 6:44They continue to use it and they continue to mass produce illiterates so I wish this girl well if every victim of the government school system in America decides to sue the system and try to get millions of dollars America will be broke because that'll be half the country maybe more but it's good that this is shining attention on this day because people need to know what their tax dollars are paying for hundreds of thousands of dollars went into producing this illiterate it's a crime against her it's a crime against the taxpayer it's a crime against our country and people ought to be held accountable.
- 7:14Now let's jump to a poll also this available at Liberty Sentinel three and four Americans dissatisfied with public education I'll read a quote and let you elaborate a little bit Alex Newman.
- 7:27First of all the national assessment of education progress I hear the word progress in that I kind of you can put a LOL by that but anyway the US government standardized academic testing results show US students are getting dumber less than one in three are even proficient in any core subject the new Gallup data shows government schools ranked 29 out of 31 in public satisfaction with that.
- 7:57With key areas of society like ranging from the military health care race issues the environment government schools almost at the rock bottom Alex go ahead.
- 8:09The thing that really perplexes me is how there could be like 23 24% of Americans who are satisfied with this atrocity masquerading isn't it.
- 8:17And my guess is probably most of them work for the system or their spouse works for the system you know they depend on the system some way and so they can't be totally honest and say yes a dumpster fire we all know it's a dumpster fire or they live under a rock somewhere haven't been exposed to the public school system in decades.
- 8:34The reality is when you have 75% of Americans dissatisfied with something that they're paying a trillion dollars a year for the warning lights are blinking bright red the alarms are sounding the danger here.
- 8:47Is is not that people are waking up to the scam the danger is that as people wake up from the scam the same scam artists will come up with a new scam to try to perpetuate the grift and to try to bring everybody else into the system which is what's happening right now now you've got people who are realizing what everybody's waking up system doesn't work kids are dumber than they've ever been they don't know what happened to go in I know.
- 9:12Let's make the private schools and the homeschoolers do the same thing everybody's doing right so so that's the role danger there Dave and I hope people recognize if you're not dissatisfied with the public school system you are not paying attention I mean if you think one in three girls CDC data should be seriously considering suicide you must love the public school system if you think one in 10 girls seriously attempting suicide is a good metric you must love the public school system if you think those things are crazy then you should join the rest of the country and saying this is unacceptable.
- 9:40Well former Arizona superintendent of public instruction Diane Douglas urged dissatisfied parents to take the plunge and remove their children from the system she's she in an interview with you she said what is shocking to me is how few make the move to get their children out parents get your children out whatever it takes the reason I'm bringing all this up and wanted to talk with Alex today on this very important topic and podcast because even President Donald Trump has been sound
- 10:10downing the alarm and he he says we're ranked number one in cost per pupil but we're at the bottom when it comes to or near the bottom when it comes to reading and math so Alex people want to know sincerely Christians conservatives Republicans independence want to know is this a realistic endeavor for the Trump administration go ahead.
- 10:35Well there's a lot to say there and first I shout out to my sister in Christ Diane Douglas she was the superintendent of all the public schools in Arizona up until about 2020 I believe is when she no longer was serving in that position but she held basically every position in the leadership of the government school system in Arizona that one could hold she was on the school board president of the school board all the way up to the pinnacle of the government school bureaucracy in Arizona a superintendent of the entire system and she came to talk I gave.
- 11:052019 I was on speaking to her exposing the government school system and we talked afterward and I just I so enjoyed talking with her she's like you know what you're right like I thought God put me in this position to help me fix the system and and I'm realizing now that God put me in the system to realize it couldn't be fixed and to tell people it's time to abandon the sinking ship.
- 11:26So she was kind enough actually to write the forward to to my book and she'll give you an insiders perspective on this system and why it cannot be redeemed so people can get a copy that she's a wonderful wonderful lady she now serves on our advisory board for public school exit switching over to your question Dave about the Trump administration.
- 11:44You know I'll start by saying it's a baby step in the right direction that we're now talking about getting the federal government out of education talking about shutting down the Department of Education.
- 11:53But I would caution people not to get too enthusiastic just yet if you look at what is being proposed and I don't want to be the bearer of bad news I'm not just trying to be a contrarian to be a contrarian but if you look at what's being discussed in Washington DC.
- 12:05It's not what people assume it is when they hear dismantle the Department of Education let's go to Linda McMahon's testimony.
- 12:12Interest and confirmation hearings she said hey we're going to put this function that probably better over at Health and Human Services this function would probably be better at the Department of Interior this will be better at labor.
- 12:22So what we're talking about here is restructuring the federal involvement in education yes they'll shut down the bureaucracy.
- 12:30But unless and until we repeal at least five key statutes that were passed by Congress that authorize this federal meddling in the school system shutting down the Department of Education is really not going to move the ball very far down the field in a good direction because again we're just redistributing these functions the mandates will be there the money will continue to be there.
- 12:50And so we have a long way to go and you know I hope people don't just here we're shutting down the Department of Education okay we can go back to sleep send your kids to public school absolutely not.
- 13:00Okay so and thank you for I mean that's why I have you on it and the guests that I like to have just just talk straight with us we're running out of time I mean in many ways here in America and of course it's the Lord returns soon.
- 13:13But let's talk about professional forecasters predicting the Exodus from government schools that will accelerate dramatically in the years ahead here's what I see a couple problems with that first of all fear of the unknown people hesitant to homeschool also the media and here's what I mean by that it's in the article parents don't get accurate or truthful information I believe the media has been complicit because they're on the left they support all things government education and big government.
- 13:43They don't get info about the dangers of their local government schools they certainly don't hear that in the news very often if they do at all falsely believing that the schools aren't as bad as what some on the right like the Alex Newman's and the Glenn backs and the conservatives and the Christians are saying they are your thoughts Alex and then we've got to take a break.
- 14:03Yeah it's a very significant problem is you have a widespread understanding that the system is rotten to the core but my local brainwash camp is not that bad because it's Sally works there and folks you got to get yourself out of that idea we have a national and really an international indoctrination system now your local school board might control a little bit about the salaries that the teachers are paid but what is being taught in there is being decided in Washington DC it's being decided in Paris at UNESCO headquarters it's being decided in New York where the big textbook publishers are so we have to
- 14:33disabuse ourselves of this dangerous notion that our local government brainwash camp is somehow better than all the rest it's not get your kids out so friends we'll be right back with Alex Newman on World View Matters today show is brought to you by Harbinger's Daily world news
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- 15:33the department has made tremendous progress pairing back what it considers unnecessary projects before McMahon was even confirmed by the Senate the department issued a press release announcing that it had terminated over $600 million in grants to institutions and nonprofits that were using taxpayer funds to train teachers and education agencies on divisive ideologies and then it talks about CRT and DEI
- 16:02so there's there was the battle was already being kind of prepped I guess to to handle this this big problem so your thoughts on that and maybe how incrementally is this going to help you just go ahead.
- 16:16Well again there's so much to say on this day when I think at this point all those things that we're talking about are good right I mean of course it's good to shut down unconstitutional federal funding for crazy training for crazy programs for crazy teachers everybody with any sense to be able to see that but this is like trying to stick your finger in the die and hope that the whole thing is not a measure going to blow it's like an avalanche coming towards you taking a spoon to protect yourself you know it's it's a torrent and it's going to wash you away your spoon is going to be totally and utterly useless when it comes to dealing with this.
- 16:46So we need to take a more holistic approach here and you know to go to project 25 I know a trump disavowed it on the campaign trail but a lot of project twenty five people are working in his administration and a lot of them came from his administration and you know full disclosure I know a lot of those guys a lot of them are great people well intention love them.
- 17:03But if you look at the education section it talks about what we're seeing right now it proposes for example the Department of Education reorganization or restructuring act that would do exactly what I said scatter all these functions to different bureaucracies.
- 17:17That is not going to be the kind of victory people are looking for and look I'm going to go a step further Dave and I know people are going to get mad at me for saying this but I just need to call it like I see it.
- 17:26I don't think getting as much as I support the idea and it should happen I don't think getting rid of the Department of Education is going to be this panacea to save the public school system.
- 17:36I think we need to look at the education system as a hydra that is devouring children as using all these tentacles to devour little kids helpless little kids whose parents naively trusted them with the system.
- 17:48And you could chop off the Department of Education tentacle you could chop off the NEA tentacle you could chop off the UNESCO tentacle you could chop off any of these tentacles even multiple of these tentacles and it wouldn't fix the problem that's got plenty of other tentacles it'll keep devouring your kids and if you know anything about a hydra it'll grow back those tentacles anyway might be a rebranded tentacle but what we have here.
- 18:11It's a system that comes from a poison seed and if you don't believe me go to the Bible Bible says judge something by its fruit what is the fruit of the system well it's cleared for all the seed so little tweaks on a bad system are not going to solve this problem we need to think much much bigger.
- 18:28It's so important that you said that and that you're taking this approach Alex because I believe it's important we might hear some good things about their intentions for a long time republican presidents have tried or at least they made promises and maybe a few have tried to even get in there but to talk about dismantling or restructuring.
- 18:46Yeah it's going to take a long this a long-term project but let's talk about what you just said we will know the Bible says we will know them by their fruit and when you think about the left and the demoniacs and what they've been producing they've been producing a lot of bad fruit they're making disciples disciples of the social justice disciples of social justice and that system look at our our universities I mean I know I'm preaching to the choir here you see the protests on the campuses and you see the rat
- 19:16radicalism and you're going were they always like that will know but K through 12 is like the prep ground east when I was in school years and years ago I was in the college prep course right to in high school well what are they prepping the K through 12 for now we're seeing the fruit the rotten depraved anti-Christian fruit anti-Semitic anti-Christian anti-constitutional anti-American fruit coming out and now it like
- 19:46you said not every student but share your thoughts on that more on this the fruit that we're seeing Alex because I don't know I think people still as much evidence as there is out there people still need to be convinced yeah they do and I would say Dave for Christians and I know the vast majority of your audience as brothers and sisters in Christ and a couple haters coming to find something bad that we said that they give up but but for the folks out there who love the Lord the folks out there who understand that the Bible is the inspired in an
- 20:16parents perfect word of God the revelation of our creator to us his creation that's where we need to go for insight into these questions and you hit the nail on the head when you said education what's happening in the system is discipleship the question is who's doing the
- 20:32discipling and for what purpose God has called on us to make disciples of all nations and that certainly begins in our own homes with our own children obviously right yes we should be sending missionaries in all the
- 20:44recipe but Christ put it really plain he's quoted in Matthew and he's quoted in Luke saying something very profound it's often overlooked because we want to be friendly and we want everybody to like us and we want to be nice Jesus said you're either with me or against me now just because
- 20:58they're against him doesn't mean we hate them we love them we pray for them even those who persecute us and hate us and abuse us we love them and we pray for them but we need to be clear they are if
- 21:08they're not with Christ they are against Christ they are anti Christ and so what does that mean for us as believers do you want your children to be
- 21:15discipled by a system that openly rejects Christ that is hostile to the word of God or do you want to follow God's instructions for how you ought to be raising up your children the
- 21:26Bible is full of insight in this do you want to be chapter six be teaching your children about God and his ways and his laws and what he's done for us when you wake up in the morning when
- 21:34you're walking by the way when you're sitting down to eat when you're going to bed at night all the time you're supposed to be discipling your children you can go to Ephesians chapter six in verse four God tells us to bring up our children in the fear discipline
- 21:46admonition and nurture of the Lord how can we act like we're doing that when we're sending them to an institution created by people who rejected the word of God
- 21:54created by people who think we are silly for believing those things and I don't think we can honestly say that and then try to unbrainwash them for 30 minutes at dinner when they're not staring at their devices
- 22:06I don't mean to sound harsh or judgmental but it's foolishness and we just need to go back to what the word of God has revealed to us to know that we need to be doing something different as God's people
- 22:15yeah and the Bible instructs we are to raise our own children and to teach them in the ways of the Lord and we've gotten so far from that
- 22:24and part of the excuse I hear a lot Alex is well my tax dollars are going to the public schools so I'm already paying for it
- 22:32I had Sam Sorbonne a few weeks ago and we talked about that and she said like you said well look at the fruit what are they getting
- 22:40what are they getting for whether your tax dollars are paying for or not look at what's happening what are kids being bombarded with
- 22:47and so what is there another aspect of this that we're not seeing when it comes to Christian Christian families Christian
- 22:55children still in the system I think it's a matter of obedience David and that's not what people want to hear
- 23:03they don't want to make the sacrifice they don't want to drive an older car they don't want to live in a smaller house
- 23:07they don't want to skip the ski vacation and I get it my wife and I sacrifice like crazy we live on one income
- 23:12and we live below the federal poverty line for years and here's we got six kids right and I certainly don't make a lot of money
- 23:17doing journalism and education but that's okay there's no sacrifice that's too big for my children
- 23:24and on that point of well my tax dollars are already going down the rat hole so I might as well send my kids to me what
- 23:29right Jesus told us on this very issue of taxes right give to Caesar what Caesars how do you know what Caesar's
- 23:35well his face is on the coin all right give him the coin if he asked for the coin give him the coin if the
- 23:39soldiers tell you to carry the pack for a mile carry it for two but what about our children is the
- 23:45image of Caesar on our children and the answers of course no the image of God is on our children so when
- 23:50they say hand over the kids the answer from Christians need to be no right no absolutely not these are
- 23:55God's children he's entrusted them to me for 18 years there's no way I'm going to let you teach them
- 24:00that they were born in the wrong body that God is silly that America is even is not going to happen
- 24:05it's not even up for discussion I'm not going to have a debate with you you're not getting my kids
- 24:10and that should be the attitude of Christians thank you Alex and it is hard obedience is one thing
- 24:15and also trying to get a big picture of you too it's it's not just today and your kids hanging
- 24:21around with their friends it is looking long term does the Kate does Kate your 12 actually prepare
- 24:27kids for real life when they're not even being taught to critically think and we know it's an
- 24:33environment that is not only disagreeable to the biblical worldview it is hostile towards the
- 24:40biblical worldview by all that they're promoting I do want to mention friends there's an interesting
- 24:44article or on a sub-sac that Chris Rufo put out we didn't get chance to talk about with Alex
- 24:49how did this mantle the Department of Education go check that out there's some interesting ideas
- 24:55in there and it does give us some hope but like Alex said first of all we've got to make sure
- 25:01our expectations are in check and also we've got to take care of right now the immediate thing
- 25:06is to make sure our children Christian children are taking care of and protected and by sending them
- 25:13to the government schools they are not being protected they're not being truly educated they're
- 25:18being part of this system that we've talked about Alex go back to the system is irredeemable
- 25:25we've talked about this a lot on this show you talk about it a lot your final just encouragement
- 25:32to those younger Christian families that have their kids in there and they don't know how they're
- 25:37going to do it with the time but educating them is so important and their responsibility go ahead
- 25:43yeah thank you Dave and so this is an unbiblical institution we don't want to reform unbiblical
- 25:48institutions we want to separate ourselves from them so there's a lot of resources out there
- 25:53you know freedom project academy I start on the board there it's online K through 12 school
- 25:57classical conversations I'm a senior fellow there it's a great program for those who want like
- 26:01an in-person community there's all kinds of resources now folks there's no reason to be scared
- 26:06of taking seriously the responsibilities that God has placed us on placed on us and this is one
- 26:12of our most important responsibilities in this lifetime is raising up our children in the way that
- 26:16God has commanded us so leave the fear behind God didn't give you a spirit of fear and take that
- 26:22bold step in faith in obedience and God will lead the way just read his word be in prayer let the
- 26:28Holy Spirit guide you and you cannot go wrong following his instructions also public school exit
- 26:33dot com or dot org dot com public school exit dot com um so I've seen you uh you're getting ready to
- 26:41speak at prophecy conferences and I do I think it's Orlando uh what do you have coming up we've
- 26:46got a minute what do you have coming up Alex uh well at this prophecy conference in Orlando just a
- 26:51couple weeks from now we'll be talking about the doctrines of demons being taught to your children
- 26:54at taxpayer expense and what the bible says about our duty toward government so I hope to see
- 27:00people there and uh Dave thank you so much for for what you do you're such a blessing to the
- 27:03body of Christ and it's a great honor to be here with you so thank you thanks for the kind words
- 27:07brother praise God and I believe that will be live streamed um because I think I think it's full don't
- 27:12don't mark my don't quote me on that but I think it's filled we can live stream that conference uh
- 27:17prophecy watchers is putting that on correct that's right yep all right well brother thank you
- 27:22lord willing to be continued we'll see you again Alex newman god bless you liberty sentinel dot
- 27:28o r g bye brother god bless you thank you so much thanks all right guys again the book in
- 27:33indoctrinating your children to death very important and god bless you as always keep speaking the
- 27:41truth about things that matter see you next time