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A New Chapter: Becs Gentry On Her HOKA Partnership, How To Protect Your Peace & Setting Priorities Without Guilt · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: Smell the flowers and blow out the candles.
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  Speaker 2: Just keep breathing.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Hurdler's Emily a body here. You are listening to
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  Speaker 3: another episode of Hurdle, a podcast featuring the mindset, secrets,
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  Speaker 3: and true stories of the most inspiring women in sports
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  Speaker 3: and wellness, empowering you to live a healthier, happier, more
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  Speaker 3: motivated life and of course, conquer your own hurdles.
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  Speaker 4: This week, I am.
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  Speaker 3: Sitting down with my dear dear pal, the incredible Bes Gentry.
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  Speaker 3: Many of you know her as a powerhouse peloton instructor,
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  Speaker 3: but recently she stepped into a massive new chapter as
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  Speaker 3: a Hookah global brand ambassador. It's synergy that marks her
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  Speaker 3: return to the Trails and Ultra Run, the place where
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  Speaker 3: she first fell in love with the running community. In
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  Speaker 3: this episode, Bex gets real about the logistics of being
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  Speaker 3: a global athlete and a mother. We dive deep into
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  Speaker 3: her discipline and how she manages to schedule high stress
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  Speaker 3: training alongside her non negotiables. She shares a powerful perspective
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  Speaker 3: on priority, noting that while she's deeply disciplined, she's learned
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  Speaker 3: that training isn't always the highest priority. The health and
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  Speaker 3: happiness of herself and her family, especially her cutie daughter,
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  Speaker 3: to Lula always come first. We also discuss the lessons
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  Speaker 3: she's learning in this chapter, from the importance of protecting
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  Speaker 3: her mental health by setting boundaries with social media to
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  Speaker 3: the value of reassessing goals. When the passion starts to fade,
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  Speaker 3: Bex reminds us all that life's just too short not
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  Speaker 3: to enjoy what we do in our spare time, and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes the best thing you can do for growth is
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  Speaker 3: to step away and find a new route to the
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  Speaker 3: top of the mountain.
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  Speaker 4: Make sure you're following along with.
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  Speaker 3: and me over at Emily Abodie. Listen to Hurdle with
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  Speaker 3: Emily Abody on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever
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  Speaker 3: you get your podcasts. And with that, let's get to it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get to hurdling.
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  Speaker 4: Today. I am sitting down with Beck's gentry.
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  Speaker 3: She is a Polton instructor, a new Hokah athlete.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to hurdles. How are we doing it?
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic? Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, new Hoka Athlete chat there for bex gentry.
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  Speaker 4: It's wild, It's wild.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Hoka Global Brand Ambassador, I think is official title, which
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  Speaker 5: is an.
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  Speaker 2: Ana thanh Jonah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What was it about this synergy here that really excited you?
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  Speaker 5: Hoker is a brand that blends performance with a very
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  Speaker 5: welcoming community to every type of runner, which is huge.
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  Speaker 5: You what I'm about It is not just about having
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  Speaker 5: the fastest, flashiest, most expensive show on the market. It
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  Speaker 5: is about so much more than that. It's about creating
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  Speaker 5: shoes that last. It's about creating shoes that can serve you.
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  Speaker 5: If you work in healthcare and you're walking around all day,
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  Speaker 5: or if you are training for your fastest race ever
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  Speaker 5: and you want a little bit of carbon help, we
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  Speaker 5: got that for you. Or if you're ready to go
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  Speaker 5: in truck over a mountain, we got.
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  Speaker 3: You truck over a mountain and inspiring you to get
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  Speaker 3: back to some.
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  Speaker 4: Of the running that you really adore. I e.
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  Speaker 5: Hitting the trail, Hitting the trails, Baby, she's back.
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  Speaker 4: What's that look like for you?
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  Speaker 2: This year?
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  Speaker 5: Exploratory and a little worrisome. I started in trails. I
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  Speaker 5: started with ultra running. That is where my true love
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  Speaker 5: for competitive air quotes.
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  Speaker 2: Running came from and.
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  Speaker 5: It's where I truly understood community because I had my
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  Speaker 5: girls in the UK and there was a group of
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  Speaker 5: us and we do all these trail races together. We'd
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  Speaker 5: had the same kit, we wouldn't necessarily finish together, we'd
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  Speaker 5: always start together. And it was just how I fell
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  Speaker 5: in love with what running meant to me as a person.
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  Speaker 5: And I love the cake and cookies and food elements
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  Speaker 5: to ultras.
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  Speaker 4: Wait for those that don't understand, shed some light.
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  Speaker 5: On ultras the cooking cookies or cooking some people do
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  Speaker 5: actually cook meals. So in ultra running, unless you are
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  Speaker 5: very very good and you are considered in an elite
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  Speaker 5: ultra runner, ultra running, for the most part is about
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  Speaker 5: completing the distance or time. So an ultrua is considered
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  Speaker 5: anything over twenty six point two miles of traditional marathon distance.
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  Speaker 1: And so that.
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  Speaker 5: Means that when you have rest ups or crew areas
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  Speaker 5: where your your friends of family could come and help
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  Speaker 5: you get changed out of your wet, soggy, muddy clothing,
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  Speaker 5: you sit on those genuinely cake and high calorific sugary
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  Speaker 5: foods that people can enjoy and a hot cup of
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  Speaker 5: tea and a chance to warm up around a gas
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  Speaker 5: heater maybe, And it's just it's an adventure.
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  Speaker 4: It's a true adventure. It's a true adventure.
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  Speaker 3: You yourself have had such an interesting journey as an
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  Speaker 3: athlete thus far, and it's far from over. But to
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  Speaker 3: hear you talk about the distance versus the times, knowing
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  Speaker 3: that you have been an Olympic Trials qualifier, right, you
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  Speaker 3: have really no pun intended run the gamut, so to speak,
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  Speaker 3: on this sport. For someone who hears this and aspires
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  Speaker 3: to seek their own potential within running, what comes to
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  Speaker 3: mind for then try everything?
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  Speaker 5: And I don't mean you have to go and try
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  Speaker 5: like a hundred kilometers versus a five k right now,
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  Speaker 5: but try everything when it comes to distance sometime, because
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  Speaker 5: you may be sitting here listening to this thinking, oh, gosh, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Not a runner, but i'd like to be.
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  Speaker 5: And we have to start by just moving and maybe
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  Speaker 5: that looks like walking for five minutes every day, and
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  Speaker 5: then you may progress onto walking and jogging and then
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  Speaker 5: jogging and running and then running or not you can
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  Speaker 5: stay walking every day whatever. But I say that to
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  Speaker 5: say you need to discover what type of runner you are,
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  Speaker 5: and it can change with your chapters of life as well.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's really important because running is in
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  Speaker 5: this massive boom and it has been for a few years.
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  Speaker 1: And we just think about speed.
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  Speaker 5: We think about like running and the fastest people come
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  Speaker 5: to most people's minds, even if it is ultra distances.
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  Speaker 5: You may think of that like the Jennifer Lickners the
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  Speaker 5: of the world. You may think of Hans, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like Hans Charloo's just crushed a black canyon. But actually, like,
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  Speaker 5: it's not always about speed. It's about like discovering, Oh
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  Speaker 5: maybe I'm not meant to be an injury it's runner
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm going to be really good at miles.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe I'm going to be a fast track gally for
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  Speaker 5: a minute, and then you can come back to those
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  Speaker 5: longer distances. But explore it and find out what type
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  Speaker 5: of runner suits you, because there are so many different
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  Speaker 5: types within the running umbrella.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And what I'm hearing you say is that embrace
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  Speaker 3: the joy of it all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, find out what pushes your buttons.
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  Speaker 5: Come on, we've got to be turned on by what
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  Speaker 5: we're doing in our spare time, Yeah, because otherwise, what's
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  Speaker 5: the point.
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  Speaker 4: What's the point. We jumped right into it?
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  Speaker 3: Usually before I start asking all the things I like
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  Speaker 3: to level set by asking how you're doing?
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  Speaker 4: Really, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 5: I think I'm in that phase of what the actual
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  Speaker 5: f am I doing when it comes to training and
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  Speaker 5: realizing like, oh my gosh, I have a race really soon,
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  Speaker 5: but having to remember to rephrase it in my mind
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  Speaker 5: that a race to me personally, and this is just
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  Speaker 5: my personal definition.
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  Speaker 1: Erase means I'm competing and I'm not. So this is
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  Speaker 1: just a run.
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  Speaker 2: I have a run.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just have a specific organized run event that
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  Speaker 5: I am attending in a few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: But there's no pressure on this one.
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  Speaker 5: So I am literally and quite literally, will be getting
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  Speaker 5: my feet wet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, quite literally, which comes with its own fair share
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  Speaker 3: of challenges. Say lease, by adding in these longer endurance
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  Speaker 3: events into your schedule, that training that you're speaking of
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  Speaker 3: requires some real diligence, not only in its execution and
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  Speaker 3: doing the actual training, but setting aside the time, which
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  Speaker 3: brings about a very important question how do you do it?
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  Speaker 3: And by it, I mean how do you make it
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  Speaker 3: a priority?
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  Speaker 4: Because that is something certainly that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of people that message you email
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  Speaker 3: you come to the Peloton studio share is quite challenging.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, everybody knows no matter what it is,
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  Speaker 5: whatever you add on to your day to day routine
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  Speaker 5: of things that are non negotiables, i e. Going to work, eating, drinking, sleeping,
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  Speaker 5: all of the things that are what you have to
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  Speaker 5: do in order to survive, make a pretty penny and
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  Speaker 5: all of that thing.
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  Speaker 1: Adding on extra stress is.
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  Speaker 2: It's an honor to.
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  Speaker 5: Be able to do that as well. But it's stressful,
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  Speaker 5: it really is. It takes a lot of planning, so
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  Speaker 5: it's scheduling. But also only it is for me understanding
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  Speaker 5: that sometimes it actually isn't priority. Sometimes there are other
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  Speaker 5: things that are a priority. And obviously that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 5: it is low down. But if I have to flip
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  Speaker 5: flop my training week around and my long run has
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  Speaker 5: to be on a Wednesday instead of later on in
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  Speaker 5: the week because I have work commitments all day on
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  Speaker 5: a Saturday, which I do quite often, and then actually
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  Speaker 5: after work, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Want to go for an eighteen mile run.
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  Speaker 5: I want to go and see my family and relax
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  Speaker 5: and switch off a little bit. I'll do that, and
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  Speaker 5: I'll flip it around and I will just remember, like,
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  Speaker 5: of course it's a high priority, but it's not the
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  Speaker 5: highest priority. The health and happiness of my family and
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  Speaker 5: myself is first, and then the running and getting it in.
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  Speaker 1: I say that because.
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  Speaker 2: I know I will always do it.
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  Speaker 5: I am very disciplined when I am training, and I
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  Speaker 5: will make it happen. I'm not somebody like you or I,
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  Speaker 5: I think are in this same vein we both will
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  Speaker 5: turn to the tread when it's treacherous outside. We are
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  Speaker 5: neither of us a person who was like, look at
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  Speaker 5: me on the coldest day, I just ever get in
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  Speaker 5: my mouth in absolutely, yeah, because I want to keep running.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like not to get frost by personally, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: a pneumonia.
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  Speaker 5: Or slip and not be able to run. So I
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  Speaker 5: definitely like make sure I get it in. But I'm
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  Speaker 5: not I'm not super like.
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  Speaker 4: Stressy about it.
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk about discipline because I think that
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  Speaker 3: there is a big misconception that someone can just be disciplined.
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  Speaker 3: Like someone might wake up one day and say I'm
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  Speaker 3: just not a disciplined person, and the other person they
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  Speaker 3: see going to the gym or maybe going for a
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  Speaker 3: run or doing whatever it is movement wise that makes
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  Speaker 3: them feel good, and they are like, well, they're just
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  Speaker 3: more disciplined than me. That isn't how it works. Where
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  Speaker 3: does discipline in your case come from.
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  Speaker 5: If I've said I'm going to do something, I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to do it, and I'm going to try and do
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  Speaker 5: it to the best of my ability within the timeframe
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  Speaker 5: that I've had leading up to it. Yeah, because yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know, maybe I could have done this race better
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  Speaker 5: if it was not at the end of March and
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  Speaker 5: it was at the end of May. Probably would have
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  Speaker 5: had way more beautiful days out that I could get
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  Speaker 5: more miles outside and feel more compelled to wake up
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  Speaker 5: when it's not dark or quite so dark in the morning.
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  Speaker 5: But having said that, I'm going to be as disciplined
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  Speaker 5: as I can in this training phase of my life
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  Speaker 5: without making my whole life about this training phase. And
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  Speaker 5: that to me is the discipline of like you said
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  Speaker 5: you were going to do it, get it done, and
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  Speaker 5: just get it done as well as you can.
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  Speaker 2: Right now and move on. Like I've learned, I used.
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  Speaker 5: To dwell on things of like, oh gosh, that point
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  Speaker 5: two of a mile, that I didn't finish. Oh, I
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  Speaker 5: need to jump on the train and get it done.
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  Speaker 5: And I've learned to let that go. I've learned that
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't make a difference. What makes a difference is
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  Speaker 5: missing a week of training. Missing a day or two
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  Speaker 5: of training doesn't make a difference. It's physiologically actually proven
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  Speaker 5: that it's up here in your brains that we lose it.
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  Speaker 2: Not our body, not our physiology.
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  Speaker 5: It actually takes more like two to three weeks for
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  Speaker 5: you to lose trained physiology.
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  Speaker 2: You have to be trained.
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  Speaker 5: This is all caveat too. You have to be a
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  Speaker 5: pretty trained person. And I think I just have that
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  Speaker 5: in my mind, is if I do have to miss
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  Speaker 5: a couple of days I've been traveling, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: I don't get up and.
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  Speaker 2: Run outs in the morning. I'm scared.
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  Speaker 5: I'll just lay it out there. I have this fear
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  Speaker 5: that something is going to happen to me on the
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  Speaker 5: streets of New York. I rarely ride the subway.
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  Speaker 2: I hate it.
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  Speaker 5: I get very very nervous, and I don't think that
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  Speaker 5: is good for me to put myself through that stress.
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  Speaker 5: Some people can deal with it and that's great. Like
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  Speaker 5: I have colleagues who ride the subway every day all day.
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  Speaker 2: That's good for them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to compare myself to them.
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  Speaker 5: I know what it does to my heart rate and
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  Speaker 5: my cords all levels, and I choose to spend my
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  Speaker 5: hard and cash on a Nuba.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah fine.
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  Speaker 3: I love that you're meeting yourself with where you're at
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to the discipline piece, because instead of
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  Speaker 3: shutting yourself into doing something, getting to a place where
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  Speaker 3: you can have that grace is so critical, and it
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  Speaker 3: isn't easy for someone that's trying to adopt that same mindset,
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  Speaker 3: that's trying to have a.
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  Speaker 4: Little bit more grease with themselves. What do you tell them?
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  Speaker 5: I say, force yourself to take two days off, and
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  Speaker 5: I don't mean don't move. This is not me telling
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  Speaker 5: you to sit and be a couch potato for two days.
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  Speaker 5: Take two days off the thing that is stressing you
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  Speaker 5: out about being disciplined over and just move through your
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  Speaker 5: day with happiness and ease, and just go about the hours.
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  Speaker 5: And if there is no pressure on you to get
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  Speaker 5: something done, maybe it might just pop up in your
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  Speaker 5: day where you're like, oh, oh my gosh, right, I've
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  Speaker 5: got an hour. I'm gonna go for a fun run,
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  Speaker 5: or I'm gonna hop to the gym, or I'm gonna
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  Speaker 5: take a quick pilates class on my pelton app like
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  Speaker 5: it just might happen naturally and then start feeling the
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  Speaker 5: joy again. Or maybe you may have two days off
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  Speaker 5: where you get a lot of other stuff done that
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  Speaker 5: has been interrupting your discipline train to do that thing
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  Speaker 5: called training, and you might need to just closet clear
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  Speaker 5: up over those two days to free up the time
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  Speaker 5: for that discipline to seep in for your training, and
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  Speaker 5: that sometimes what I need to do. I sometimes wake
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  Speaker 5: up and I'm like, all right, I've got this hour
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  Speaker 5: run and I love to train in the morning. I
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  Speaker 5: can't do it in the afternoon. I really like I
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  Speaker 5: struggle to do afternoon training.
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  Speaker 2: It sucks.
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  Speaker 5: And so there are certain days where I wake up
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  Speaker 5: and my brain just feels like I know, I need
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  Speaker 5: to do this run, and I will do it, but
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  Speaker 5: I have the laundry list of other things, like I
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  Speaker 5: need to get my real ID done, I need to
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  Speaker 5: file start finding my textes the way, I need to
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  Speaker 5: clean the house. I need to sort out to Lula's
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  Speaker 5: wardrobe because I picked up a T shirt for a
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  Speaker 5: one year old and she's wearing size four right now,
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  Speaker 5: and there are so many things that are in the way,
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  Speaker 5: and I know I'm not going to be able to
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  Speaker 5: run well if i haven't done those and so sometimes
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  Speaker 5: I will just take that day or at least that
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  Speaker 5: morning to get all of it done, and then I
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  Speaker 5: naturally am like I get to flow into my run now.
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  Speaker 1: And it feels good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the feel good, the feel good is important.
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  Speaker 3: Again what you said before, life is too short not
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  Speaker 3: to enjoy these things. We're spending our free time to
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  Speaker 3: do something. And you have free will. So when you're
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  Speaker 3: shutting yourself into a certain activity, whether it be movement
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  Speaker 3: related or not, it ain't it.
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  Speaker 5: It ain't no way, that's no way. I say in
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  Speaker 5: my class a lot of the time. You can listen
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  Speaker 5: to me, you can follow my cues. But also you're
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  Speaker 5: a fully grown adult, so don't slide into my DMS
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  Speaker 5: complaining about my class plan.
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  Speaker 1: You decided whether you want to do it or not.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it's free will.
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  Speaker 4: Free will.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of class plan, I know that after we chat today,
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  Speaker 3: you're heading to the studio today to record a two
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  Speaker 3: hour run. This is something that you're doing a bit
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  Speaker 3: more of now getting a little lengthier on the runs.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to me about the why and how that's feeling
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  Speaker 3: for you.
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  Speaker 5: We have heard our members and we have heard that
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  Speaker 5: they really do enjoy running with us outside and in
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  Speaker 5: the studio. It just takes a bit more production to
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  Speaker 5: do these long classes in the studio with people, but
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  Speaker 5: for us to record them for out content is really
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  Speaker 5: appreciated by our members. So yeah, we've listened, and those
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: instructors who are endurance athletes so to speak, we are
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: putting in the time and getting those done. And I'll
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: tell you what, it's a great It's a great moment
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: for me because I have an eighty minute training run
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: today and I get to do it in our audio
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: studio and inside and warm, and it's it's kind of
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: fits the bill because I'm actually training alongside people who
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: are also training alongside me. It's a really good like
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: role reversal duality thing going on. That to me makes
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: it quite genuine when I'm teaching and what I'm talking
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: about is, Hey, I'm actually feeling.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: This with you.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: I've just had a gel, I've just had a banana
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: or whatever it is going on.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also really special because I think that what
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: people don't often realize is that yes, you are creating
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: a product and giving them something, but it's also in
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: return giving you some pretty special.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it hugely is.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: There's definitely days where I don't want to move, and
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: there's definitely days where if I wasn't teaching, I probably
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: wouldn't have run when I'm out of a training cycle,
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: for sure, and I think that's selfishly. In the last
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: six months of twenty twenty five, I had nothing on
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: my deck, and purposefully I didn't want to have anything
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: on I just wanted to fall back in love with running.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: And I was still running five days a week, and
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: which is a lot. It's a huge amount of miles
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: and stress on the body. It's a lot more than
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: some people do even when they are training. But it's
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: because it was my job. But I love every second
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: of it because I still got to move and it
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: still got me into that like, hey, oh look, I
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: forgot my watch many of those runs, Emily, I forgot
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: my watch when I was teaching, and it was so
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: good to get into that rhythm of like, actually, it
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter because I don't have a coach who's waiting
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: to see what my performance levels are like today, and
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: I don't care. In many ways, today is just about
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: getting out for a run. So through different phases, yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: it does help me out. But when I am training,
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: I'm very very strict with myself to say these are
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: not my training miles. They're complimentary to my training miles.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Unless it's over an hour in the studio, then it
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: has to.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Be part of it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: This period where you had nothing specifically on the docket,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: not training for anything in particular running for the joy
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: of it, what did that time period do for you?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: What did that time period that you notice do for
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: your family?
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: What did that give you?
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, Austin and I very well personally, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: the two of us we flip year on year who
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: has the big thing to get done in their personal
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: side of things. So obviously twenty twenty four for me
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: was the Great World Race.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I took up the whole Yeah, sorry, Austin.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: And twenty twenty five for him was completing his six stars,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: and so he got that done. And that's not to
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: say I didn't do races like we traveled, you and I.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: We went to other races and different parts of the country,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: and I got them done, but I wasn't necessarily competing
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: and training my butt off.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: So that was him. That was his time.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: He was the one who was able to spend Saturdays
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: or Sundays or whenever he wanted, early morning, late night
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: getting his training done, sitting in the boots, and being
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: the one kind of more looked after in a weird way.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: And so it just looks like last year was easy
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: for me to sit back in that respect, becaus I
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: said I really wanted to fall back in love with running.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I had this like mid year.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Like panic attack, almost like oh my gosh, I don't
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: love it right now. I had a race penciled in
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: in June, and I just feel like for months I
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: knew I didn't really want to do it. I was
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: forcing myself to do this marathon, and I kept trying
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: to like talk about it brightly, and I was going
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: to meet my girls there and we were gonna have
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: a really great time. And in the back of my mind,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: you know, you know, in your gut where you're like,
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: I really don't want to do this, there was no
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: I didn't even speak to my coach about it. I
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: was like, Eh, yeah, I guess I'll just run and
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: think I know how to train for this, I don't
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: need you to worry about it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: And there was no passion. It was gone.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: The fire was not out, but the fire was like
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: really low and I just kind of I had to
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: something came up, which was I think a divine intervention
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: from somewhere that said, actually, you're really needed to do
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: something a little bit more important on that day. So
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: I had to cancel out of that race. But yeah,
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: I was like, I was like, thank God.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about that in the context of just
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: like general goal setting, because this is something that's super
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: relatable right that one moment, especially us right now in
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the middle of February, people are reevaluating maybe some of
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: the things that they set out to do.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: This springs right, spring races.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: But even maybe if it's not movement oriented, right, it's
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: just things that you start and you might feel excited
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: at one point and then you realize along the journey
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: that it's just not resonating with you.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: How do you find the grace of that.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Knowing that you have to put yourself first?
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: And again, yeah, whether it's fitness, professionalism, whatever goal it
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: was or is, if you are like burnout, doesn't come
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: from over training or over doing something. It comes from
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: trying to achieve something that you have no passion for,
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: something that is sapping your energy out of you without
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: you really even realizing, because you're constantly it's like trying
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: to climb up a slippery wall, like you may get there,
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: but Jesus, you're gonna be so exhausted and cut up
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: and bruised and defeated by the time you get to
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: the top. Or if you climb up and will with
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: some pegs in it, like you're gonna find this smooth
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: route up to the top, and you're gonna get there,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: and you're gonna feel elated and proud when you.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Get to the top.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: So I think it's sitting down with yourself and just
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: asking yourself these honest questions and having the strength to say, actually,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I need to scrap that. I know I said I
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: was gonna do it, and I know I said earlier.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: I do things that I say I'm gonna do, I'm
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: gonna do it. Yeah. Ohso there are times where I'm like, yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I said I was gonna do it, but it's not
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: healthy for me to do this right now. So it
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: doesn't mean I'm never gonna run a marathon again, but
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: it just means I'm gonna put it somewhere else.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: How did that feel for you, considering that when you
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: share your goals, you're sharing them with quite a large community.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Honestly, because of what I was doing was an event
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: with Save the Children that was huge to me and
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: very very very important. I kind of felt like I
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: was showing the world a different priority of like, there's
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: going to be way more marathons, but this event was
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: something that had been dreamt up and it had to
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: be done then. It was very it was it was
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: on a specific date for a specific reason, and so
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: I just was I was showing different cards, I think,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: And I still ran that day.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I just ran a mile, not a marathons.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: And in general, when it comes to sharing things that
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: excite you, do you feel like sometimes you need to
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: be a little strategic in that.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, hugely.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: So you probably know this, but in in Psycho it
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: has been discussed a lot that when it comes to
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: goals and talking about our goals to people, humans get
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: a sense of having done it, like this sense of
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: achievement when we tell somebody and there's a.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Teeny tiny like neuropathway in our brains.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Like if I said to you, Emily, I'm I'm going
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: to climb Mount Everest and you're like, oh my gosh,
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: that's amazing, God, this is brilliant, and that joy and
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: that congratulatory response from you triggers a neuropathway in my
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: brain that is very similar to the dopamine you get
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: when you've actually achieved it, and it gives you that like.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Teeny percentage of Oh, you've done it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: You've done it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: And the more and more people you tell and they
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: give you that same response, it waters down and lessens
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: your want to feel that thing when you have actually
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: done it. And I am hugely that person. So I
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: tell a very very small amount of people what I'm
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: actually training for well in advance as it gets closer. Yes,
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: because I feel like when I get exhausted, I kind
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: of need a bit of extra motivation about.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, all these people know I'm going to
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: do it. I have to do it now, but a
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: long way out.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: M M. I don't tell that many people because I
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: know I feel that when people get excited for what
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: I am doing in the future, I'm like, well, cool, it's.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Very indicative of going back to not feeling stoked about
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: that June race last year. You weren't even talking to
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the person that, otherwise, in every moment similar before, had
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: been your biggest cheerleader.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: M M. Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like nope.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: We're good, Yeah, we're good.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't we don't even want that, We don't
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: even want that support, which means that I clearly am
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: not really excited about this goal that I have on deck.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Right, so you just just I don't know for me there,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: I said I was going to tell everybody about what
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: I'm currently training for quite early, and I've actually decided
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: to not, and I keep getting my Instagram is flooded
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: with people being like, I did.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I miss your goal?
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Might No, I just decided to keep it close to
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: my chest, and those people who know, they know that
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: they're in a small minority of people and that I
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: don't want it to be out there right now because
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: I've honestly, I've got a lot of work to do
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: to feel confident.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: I don't feel confident in myself, but that's because I've
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: got months of training ahead of me.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's so interesting also this culture that is
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: created with social media and parasocial relationships, that individuals feel
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: as though they are entitled to that information because they
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: feel as though you are a part of their immediate
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: social network right there, that you are someone that they
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: actually know and not just obviously with you, but so
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: many of the people that each of us follow on
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: social For you, how has it felt more so to
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: exercise your boundaries with social media and with keeping things
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: close to.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: The best question.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: It's difficult because there are definitely times where I just
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: want to be like, ah, I'm tired and just this
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: is what I'm doing, and this is why it's stressful.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: But I also feel like people don't really understand. Again,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: it's because there is that that relationship is not real.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: It's through screens, be it social media screen or the
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: peloton screen. It's not a tangible, TecTile relationship that is
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: practiced day in day out based off of real.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: True emotions.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: It's like it's an it's a transactional relationship.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: I don't need that drain I suppose on me. When
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: the older I'm getting, the more along in the twoth
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: I'm getting about all this training stuff. When I realize
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: how exhausting it is. I don't need that added drain.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: So I've had to put up way more barriers to
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: keep myself grounded. And for home, I mean not sponsored,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: but like I'm employing Brick.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we have one on the desks.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you have one because I just have to switch
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: off from it. And I find it very difficult to
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: switch off from social because I do want to be
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: a nice person. So if someone says my message and
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: I try and reply, but then I can see Austin
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: or vice versa, he might be on his phone and
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: I'm staring at him like hello, I am right here,
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: right here.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: The question is what apps you have blocked.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: On the brick.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Oh well, I mean I took Facebook off my phone
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: like three years ago, since having Telula, I, I haven't
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: had Facebook on my phone. I'm not on TikTok. I
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: took Threads off or x or whatever. I don't even
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: kind of think. I don't even know what it's called.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Two different apps.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Oh there we go, well done, grandmar So Instagram, okay,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: and that's the main one, Instagram, and then like all
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: shopping apps.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: You know what, You're so funny, you're the second person
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: that I've asked this question to. And one of my
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: girlfriends said, and I blocked Amazon. I was like, Amazon
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: is on your block.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: List, Amazon net supporte.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Forward, Oh my gosh.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: All of it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I should probably just block the Internet, to be quite honest.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like turn off my WiFi.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I actually when I brick, I block all the social
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: media's and then I actually also block messages. But if
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I'm on my computer during doing work, messages come through
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: to my computer. But it really is insane the difference
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: between and again this is not sponsored, but the difference
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: between bricking your phone and just putting on D and D.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: You're so much more likely to still check with the
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: D and D on than you are with the brick,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: because the brick doesn't even let you have access to exactly.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can still pick up your phone and check
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the app.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: So brick, so we sponsor the show.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Austin wants us to do a Brick weekend where
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: we leave the brick in New York.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: And we go to our house.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: And I was like, that's a nice challenge.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: You just need someone that pockets the brick for you.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I might it neighbor's house.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say sure, or I could just come.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can have it and.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: You and do this favor for you.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: They're just support exactly, do a brick support weekend.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Outside of everything that you're talking about, there being a
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: large social media following you putting specific boundaries up to
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: help protect your mental health.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: You are in quite a busy season.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I mean we talked about you just signing on to
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: be this global athlete for HOKA, and then on top
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: of that, I know over the past year you also
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: got representation with Always Alpha. I think that that's something
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: that a lot of people, myself included, would love to
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: know more about. How has that chapter been like for
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: you now having kind of people in your corner?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: I was so honored to be taken on board by
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Always Alfa. I mean, you and I were sitting in
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Soho house in Paris when we met with Wes Felix,
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: Alison Felix's brother, and from there on Wes and I
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: became friends and we went for dinner here in New York.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: A couple of times.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: It was like my sister and I doing this thing.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: We'd love for you to be one of our first clients.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: So I was like, what what But and.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Funnily enough, Alison and I have moved in not just sports,
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: similar circle similar she's like the most decorated. Actually, you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: not just in the sports world, have moved in similar events,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: but in the motherhood world as well. We've been at
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: many motherhood events together and we've ended up spending a
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: bit of time together before, so we knew each other
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: pretty well, and so it was really like mind blowing
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: to go on board with always Ouf. I think I
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: was in their first five clients, and that was back
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: in like October twenty three or twenty three, twenty four,
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: twenty four, after the game, after the game.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Practically, what does it look like?
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Practically it is like having a best friend who knows
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: all my business business, not just my personal business, but
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: my business business. And so Olivia is like my person
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: and she has my back. As you said, she literally
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: broke as my deals. She manages the stuff that comes
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: in that people might want me to work on. She
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: knows me well enough. At this point we spent a
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: lot of time together. She knows me well enough to
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: be like a hell nail or call me squealing, and
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: she and I share thoughts of like my trajectory and
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: where I want to go and how we're going to
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: achieve that, and yeah, working like getting this deal off
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: the ground with Hoka was amazing, and I think she
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: and I work together really solidly to understand like, Okay,
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: this is really good synergy with a brand that is
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: looking to change but also keep their integrity, and that
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: was great to have her echoing my sentiments on this when.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: You were making the decision.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Aside from the flattery of being sought after for something
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: like this, something that often comes up is this question
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: of is this something that I could be doing myself?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Should I be outsourcing something like this for you? How
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: did you know that, just in general, not specifically with
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: this agency, that pursuing an avenue like this was a
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: good idea for you.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Understanding contracts, to be quite honest, I think understanding my worth.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: There are certain brands that you jump at the chance
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: to work with because you do love them, but at
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: the same time, you forget that it's a dog eat
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: dog world and it's a business interaction and you have
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: to value your own worth because, especially if you're dealing
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: with a brand that's employed an agency to broker that deal,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: if you can you kind of say this, pull your
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: pants down in order to work with a brand you love.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: Then they may also represent a different brand and you've
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: put your net worth down in front of them.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: It's a really good point.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: And I think having an agent, they will not let
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: me pull my pants down just because I love that brand.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: They're like, cool, they need to love you as much
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: as you love that brand.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's been very good to be level set
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: with certain brands and understand, okay, we're going to make
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: this a true business interaction. But you know, behind closed doors,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: I'm jumping up and down squealing at how happy I
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: am I get to work with brand X or product
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: X or whatever it is.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: So this is a really good place to also talk
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: about the importance of relationship building, because there are going
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: to be moments where perhaps you are met with an
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: opportunity that, in some aspects really does make you feel seen,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: heard in value.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: However, maybe the dollars aren't there.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: One of the pieces of advice that I got early
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: on in building the show was from Gunner Peterson, and
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I remember he came in and said, not everyone is
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: going to show you that they appreciate you with dollars,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: and that's okay. When I say that to you, what
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: comes to mind If.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: It's a brand you truly believe in and they're in
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: their early years stuck.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Stuck baby.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: If you truly believe in that brand, invest in it,
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: become part of the board, the advisory sit in on it,
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: and if you believe in their plans and their future
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: business growth.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Be part of it. Jump right in because.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: That could be something that really excites you and gives
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: you motivation for other things in your life too, if
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: dollars are the most important thing. But then it can't
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: quite show it to you downside what you give them
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: back for now and hope that it can grow in
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: the future with you, maybe with your help by that
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: smaller piece of work. But yeah, for me, it's definitely
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: seeing the brand, seeing what their future looks like and
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: what I can offer back as well tailoring it. It
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: really is about tailoring it, not just it feels like
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: the person who's paying you has the mass control over
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: what is to be delivered. But it's not the case.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: There's so much more conversation that should be haired especially
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: now in this world where generic social media advertising it's
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: not working. It's getting terrible traction. We're all blaming meta,
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: We're all blaming ig algorithms for this, and it's not
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: as far as I know, and for what I've listened
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: to many a pot and many a person a meta.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: It's not actually something they are doing per se. It's
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: not like a little code that they're putting in. It's
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: just the way the world works. It's oversaturated with the
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: same stuff, so it's thinking outside of the box and
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: just trying to make things a bit different.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: You listening to many podcasts is something that I love
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: about you. You're always sharing the little gems with me
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: that you hear while you're typically on the run. When
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: you think about maybe some of the content that you've
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: consumed over the last year, what would you say has
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: been some of the most resonant.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I've been listening to a lot of
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: women's health podcasts, to be quite honest. Whether that is
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: I'll listen to anyone and everyone when it comes to it,
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: whether it's Nott to Lisa Mosconi, whether it's Ritual Hubman.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: There's not one person that I adore more than others.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: I try to listen to all different sides, some controversial
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: some not, But I think the main element to all
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: of the podcasts I listen to is about the patients
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: within growth and that it takes strength to climb a mountain,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: but it takes so much strength to come like roll backwards,
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: whether it's all the way back down and get yourself up,
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: brush yourself off, look at that mountain and just think, Okay,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: there's another route.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: There's another route.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: I see the top, but there's another route, and you
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: may not see it right away, and that means maybe
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: you have to walk away and I don't know, just
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: not look at it at all, not think about it
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: at all, until one day.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: There it is.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's the other route, and.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: It was right in front of me, but I didn't
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: have the mental space or clarity or strength physical or
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: mental to achieve it right then. So by just stepping away,
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: I got it and then you.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Go back to it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: And that has come from listening to people talk about
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: health studies, medicines that have taken so long to get
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: to the forefront of the world, to get funding, to
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: get attention, women's or athletes who have tried to do
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: things so many times and failed and kept coming back.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Then they get there. It's patients. It's just reassessing.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: What's the meltin you're trying to climb right now.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you the actual mountain.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: The mountain I'm trying to climb right now is believing
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: that I can actually do what I've set out to
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: do at the end of summer.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: It's something I have always.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Not always wanted to do, not for the last forty
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: years of my life, but for the past like fifteen
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: years of my life. It is a race that I
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: have thought, one day I'll do it, and I didn't
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: know one day was this year, but all of a sudden,
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: one day is this year, and it's a big deal.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: It's tough, it's scary. It's a really scary race to
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: me and where you I know, really how I'm going
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: to train that well for it, to be honest, But
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: as I keep saying to myself, I don't live in Antarctica,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: but I run a marathon there, so I can I can.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Figure it out.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can figure it out.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as you are setting new goals for yourself that
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: go beyond movement, talk to me about what's exciting you there.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: It's honestly, it all comes back to ta Lula, my daughter.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: It's setting up a future for her that I feel
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: will excite her, will provide her with safety, security, happiness,
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: and growth because that girl has a big brain, and
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: she has a big amount of energy, and she is
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: so hard to keep up with already at three and
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: a half that I'm like, she is going to be astronomical,
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: and I just everything I do as a woman in
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: sport and business at my platform level is striving to help.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Her not have to go through what our.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Generations and all the generations before us have had to
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: go through, which has been struggling to get ourselves heard
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: and recognized for the goodness that we have and do.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: So I think it's really such a privilege to be
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: in the situation I'm in. I think our generation we
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: love to whine and complain about how hard it is.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: We are the luckiest age group of people so far,
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: and we whine and we complain because we have soap
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: boxes to stand on, and we create all of this negativity.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: What we should be doing more is focusing on the
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: actions and uniting and making them happen, rather.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Than looking at the numbers.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Of social media that is, highest engagement rates are on
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: negative things. It's like, we know we should be flipping
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: that around. The lowest engagement is on positive things. That's
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: the sad, sad truth. So I think if we flip
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: it around and just like realize how lucky we are
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: to have all these opportunities of this generation to re
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: lay the foundations of what comes ahead, rather than keep
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: HARKing back to the past and trying to like it's
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: like we're trying to knock a sculpture out of metal.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: It's not going to happen.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: Let's just stop trying to chip away at that metal
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: and let's start getting there.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not an artist.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Concrete clay, whatever clay does, get the clay cooking for
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: the next future, models of what.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: It's going to look like, creating things so that Tallula
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: has a.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Better world to live in.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really beautiful to come at it from that
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: perspect active, and oftentimes I find when you have a
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: passion like this, one of creating something better for your daughter,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: that comes from a recognition that there was something that
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: you wanted at some time that felt maybe beyond you.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: When I say that to you, what comes to mind
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: being told I was.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: First for a girl hmmm.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I will never let that go.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: And who was telling you that?
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't remember. It was somebody of no importance.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: I think it was just a random person. It was
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: nobody I was friends with because I would know that
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: their name, and it was it was definitely a male.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: That goes without saying. But I just will not let
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: that sentence.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Out of my brain.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: You were first for a girl, Like, no, no, sir,
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: I'm just fast.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: So breaking down that.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: Breaking down that Serena Williams is the greatest female turns
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: payer of all times. Now, actually she is the great
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: it's a tennis player.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Of all time, you know what I mean.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: It's like, of course it's wonderful to say female as well.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: That does have its own accolades to it, but like,
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: let truth be told when truth is gold here.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So being in this place where we're elevating stories
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: of women and not just downplaying the accomplishment by labeling
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: her as such, but celebrating that instead.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: M h.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: When you now think about the things that excite you
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: and the goals that you're setting that have this opportunity
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: to put your family and your daughter in a better place,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: what's on the horizon.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Oh gosh, travel taking tea to some wild and wonderful
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: places around the world, which is funny. It's full circle
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: for me because I got into trail running and ultra
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: running when I was a lot younger, like honestly out
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: of university, like twenty fifteen, twenty years ago.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: No, twenty, not fifteen twenty.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: You're like, I'm going to tell you to you street. Yeah,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: And I love the adventure.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: It was just me and I could pack a bag
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: and I could go and run a race and be
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: in this super cool country and didn't have commitments.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I could stay there if I wanted to.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: And now I get to do that with commitments and
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: with my family, and you know, I'm not staying in
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: a rati hostel room with twelve other people this time.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: What did you think that you wanted to do at
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: this point in your life when you were younger.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: I wanted to be a marine biologist, Okay, yeah, then
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: I found out I had to have biology.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: You're like, I liked sea animals, Yes, I like to
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: be in the sea with animals, right.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I don't like science and I was not good at it.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: When did you start to understand that the things that
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: you're aspiring to now, although they may look slightly different,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: were the things that you were aspiring to.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: A few years ago.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: I think when I wanted to be marine biologic, I
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: was young, I was a little girl.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Then it was lawyer, wants to be a lawyer.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: And then my cousin's girlfriend, when I was much younger,
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: she was a lawyer, and she sat me down she said,
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: you know, you sometimes have to defend bad people, and
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: that was it. And like I was a teenager at
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: that point, and I was like, I have to defend
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: bad people. Yes, if you become that type of lawyer.
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: There's many different types of lawyers, but you might have
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: to defend a bad person. And I was like, no,
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: I'm good, no, thank you. So that went out the window.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: And then I wanted to be a news correspondent. So
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: I wanted to be Kate Ady. If anyone knows who
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: she is, she's one of the most incredible foreign affairs
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: correspondents who is ever Gray Star screens. She has been
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: some of the most dangerous situations of any foreign affairs correspondent,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: and she came through them and delivered just groundbreaking news.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: And I just wanted to be her.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: I wanted to be in these places, and that was
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: why I went and studied what I did at university.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: That's why I went from university into my first job.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: I worked at the Financial Times newspaper because I was like, right,
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna get any job I can here, so
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: then I can become part of their foreign affairs team.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: And then I'm going to work for the BBC or
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: CNN or routers or whatever, and I we can do this.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: And then somehow I just fell into a different path.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: But then all of a sudden, I've become a correspondent
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: for Sport And it's so wild because okay, it's not
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: a foreign affairs correspondent, but it is. It's a correspondent
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: for my passion now and there's that's the passion that
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: I've had for the past fifteen years. And it kind
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: of hasn't hasn't all lined up in a really way way.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: It's a really beautiful power in the pivot. Yeah, when
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: else have you realized that? When else have you met
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: a pivot and thought to yourself, what an awesome opportunity
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: that this is.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Well, the biggest pivot I think for me was leaving
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: my world of public relations and when my uncle told
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: me I needed to share this passion for movement with
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: the world that I had and went back to school,
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: got my degree like a business not a full degree,
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: like a diploma sort of thing in business and sports essentially,
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: and I got this really cool intern role of which
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: I had to train the Nike team in the UK,
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: and that is where I started in my career. I
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: got taken on board by the Nike UK and then
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: became Nike Global and then that spiraled into meeting Rebecca
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: Kennedy and who knew that meeting that one vivacious woman
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: with the most rhythm I'd ever seen on anyone's hips
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: in that room in out just outside of am Simon
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: Hilversum in the Netherlands, that that encounter for three days
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: would change my life to move to America, to live
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: and teach here, to now have my family, my own
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: family here Like that is absurd.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: How does that make you feel when you reflect on.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: That, that the power of yes is just astonishing? Just
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: take that leap, say yes. You can always say no
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: later down the line, but if your gut's saying don't
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: say yes, just try it.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Really special example also of the power of one interaction. Right,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: you never know what one person you come into contact with,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: how they could show up in your life moving forward,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: or how you could benefit from that situation. Not saying
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: that you should approach every interaction like what am I
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: going to get from this, but more so approaching it
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: with a level of curiosity. I was walking to the
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: gym today and I watched these two dog owners walk
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: up to each other with their dogs, and the dogs
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: are sniffing around and saying hello, And I just had
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: this thought that was, what if we as humans approached
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: each other always with this level of kindness and inquiry
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: instead of being face down and absorbed in our own
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: pocket computer. What if when I walked by you on
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: the street each and every time I said hello, or
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: when I got my coffee, I had genuine curiosity about
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: how the person on the other side of the register
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: was feeling.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: We've lost that we've lost the plot.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have, we have.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: And that's so funny that you bring it up, because
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: Ustin and I are just watching Tell Me Lies.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: We're just we're like starting it.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it was the end of season one,
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: and this isn't a spoiler, but like Stephen got an
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: iPhone and in one I think it was maybe one
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: one and a half episodes of him having this iPhone
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: like three of the other characters and just enraged by it.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: And how they obviously they wrote it post iPhone wasn't
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: at the same time that the first iPhone was launched.
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: It was so much information has come and practiced with
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: them since.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: But you can just see they did it so well.
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: Of the immediate like draw to this device, of like
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: him laying in bed and I won't say who with.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: But on his.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: Phone, like reaching over the person to grab his phone
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: as he's like kissing her, like passing kiss to get
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: the phone.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, and just think where we've come. And now they're
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: like now we're having.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: To brick them.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Now we're having to brick the phones.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: Just like yeah, anyway, sorry, well.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, I need to get on this train. Yes you
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: haven't watched it, you do, however, yes, the communication thing
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: is music.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Is just lost. It's gone.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: It's it's like that special computer is so special to
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: some people that they may as well just live in
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: a little shed with the computer and nothing.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Else and nothing else, but when you're willing to put
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: it down and look at who's around you and think
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: about the beauty that can come from just asking a
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: how are you or what's exciting you right now? Or
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  Speaker 3: where are you going after this exactly?
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  Speaker 5: And I will give another piece of advice to everyone,
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: get off your phone so much that you don't need
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  Speaker 5: it to even take pictures. So we've invested in a
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  Speaker 5: dad cam.
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  Speaker 3: I love that you're calling it a dad at dad
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  Speaker 3: cam camcorder.
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  Speaker 2: And we've had a polaroid.
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  Speaker 5: Like you know you've been and he's featured in many
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: a Sunday We have a Sunday photo since Telula's turned one.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: We did this actually, and now all the other babies
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: in our family have had it since they were born.
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  Speaker 5: And we have a Sunday photo every week. And you've
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: been at our house multiple times and are in the
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: Sunday photo with Talula. And then now we have a
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  Speaker 5: dad cam that we just used to video instead of
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: shoving our iPhones in her face because she's an age
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  Speaker 5: where she's.
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  Speaker 4: Like the phone uh huh.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: And yeah, but I still do want to record her.
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  Speaker 5: I do want to create these memories just like our
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: parents did. But they had those goofy dad cams, and
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: now we do.
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  Speaker 3: I love that you called a dad cam because at
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: first I thought it was just like a big camera,
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  Speaker 3: not a camquorder. But I love that it's a camquarder.
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  Speaker 3: Oh with the handstrap.
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  Speaker 1: With the handstrap, Yep, it's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 4: I got to Lulu wants to get her hands on
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  Speaker 4: it too.
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  Speaker 5: She does. She's weirdly not interested in it, thank goodness. Yeah,
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: and she loved when it comes out. She's just she
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  Speaker 5: is like a little ham Yeah, she's like, hey, you
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: mentioned uh something that I think is really admirable as well.
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  Speaker 3: And we don't need to go into any of the
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  Speaker 3: specifics on where, but I know earlier this year you
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: also got another house, which is so awesome. What does
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: being able to get out of the city do for
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  Speaker 3: you and how does it help you come to back
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  Speaker 3: to yourself?
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: It's my refresh. Yeah, we're so so lucky. We've wanted
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: to move out of the city for a while, but
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: we both have this like stranglehold on the city where
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: we're not quite ready to leave.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: I think it's the frivolity and the spontaneity that happens
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: when you live in such a big metropolis like New York,
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: you can be the at home mouse or you can
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: be the party animal, and that personality change can happen
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: in ten minutes if you want it to. So we're
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: both still hung up on that a little bit. So
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  Speaker 5: we are incredibly privileged to have a place we can
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  Speaker 5: escape to.
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  Speaker 1: And it's wild because it's a home.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: It's a really grown up house. Yeah, and I know
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: a lot of my friends and colleagues have these grown
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: up houses. But I still feel like a university kid
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: because I still live in like a condo building, and
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: like I have neighbors in my building sort of like
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: you know. And when we drive up there, it's such
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: a different energy, Like I feel like a grown up,
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: which at you know, almost forty, I should feel a
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: little bit more like a grown up than I.
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  Speaker 1: Do most of the time, I think.
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: And for Tea and the dogs, it's just so beautiful
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: to watch their freedom. The dogs don't barely need a leach.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: We just put them on a leash because Dark can
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: be a complete idiot. Sometimes they just run off and
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: she's really fast, but they don't need it. Like our
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: evening walks are on a frozen lake and the dogs
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: are not on their leashes because no one cares.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: No one is a snooty city person who's like, well,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: my dog has anxiety.
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: I'm like, these dogsn't have anxiety. Your anxiety is rubbing
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: off on your dog. And you know, it's just friendly
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: and wonderful and he took her for a ski lesson
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: this weekend, and it's just, yeah, it's teaching me to
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: be really organized because there's not a bodegger at the
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: end of my street where if I run out of whatever,
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: I can just pop to get it. Like the supermarket
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: is a twenty minute drive away, and so you know,
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: there's a country store, but the hours are whenever the
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: dude wants to be there, and sometimes.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: He had one too many in the pub the night before.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: So it's just, yeah, it's really really good for my
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: brain and a really good switch off. And yeah, as
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: I said, Astin wants to do a brick weekend, so
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: it's very much.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I lose my phone when I'm up there. I apologize
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: to my.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: Friends and family profusely, because once I'm up there, it's
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: quite hard to get an immediate response from me. Yeah,
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: it's hard at the best of times unless I'm on
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: my phone, and then when I'm up there, I'm like,
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Don't even know where my phone is.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: What a gift.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually lost my driver license up there the
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: other day, which she is annoying, But I literally I
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: am about to go and get my real idea.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: So you're like, trust me when I said it was
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: on my errands list, it's really on now.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: It's really on my er it when you earlier we
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: had this long talk about social media. Obviously, so many
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: people there keeping up with you, seeing you as this
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: peloton instructor, this brand athlete. But when you look in
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: the mirror backs, what is it that you see looking
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: back at you.
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: I see Tlula's mom first and foremost to see my
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: daughter because she is my twin. I see someone who
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: is juggling a lot of plates, and depending on the mood,
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: when I look at myself, I sometimes see someone who's like, just.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Go find a cleaner for the house.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: Or like I see it convincing, like there's there's an
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: argument with my own brain sometimes and then other times
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: I see someone like yesterday I did a really tough
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: workout in between teaching five classes at Peloton, and I
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: wasn't feeling one hundred percent, and I knew I had
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: so many other things going on in my day. And
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: I got like three quarters of the workout and I
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: did it, and I hit my paces And the only
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: reason I couldn't do the last quarter because I had
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: to go and teach another class and I just like
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: went back in the green room and I had to
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: get changed from my next class, and I just caught
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: this smile on my face and I was like, Yeah.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: She's back.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: She's back.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: Like there's a part of me there that is like,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, she was taking a rest last year, and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: now there's this like bite back in me that's ready
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: ready to like pounce on myself when it comes to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: getting shit done.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: How do you navigate the overwhelm when you're in it?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Ugh, go for a run normally.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: I genuinely do, like feel so much better when I've
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: gone for a run because I can not organize it correctly,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: but I can lay it out clearer once I've been
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: for a run and identify for me, overwhelmed, it's just
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: like too much.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: It can be too many noises.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: Like I'm very like ADHD visual and audio stimulated, and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: sometimes I just need to like just be able to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: break it down and identify, like, Okay, that is what
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: is overwhelming me.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: That other things were just like antagonists.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: They can still bubble their but this thing, the protagonist here,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: has to die, right, And it's that moment of overwhelm.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: I'm very emotional. Sometimes I will just cry it out
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: for no reason. Then I apologize to anyone who's ever
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: been caught in the crossfire of me suddenly just crying
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: because it happens. And I don't think that's a weakness
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: at all. I hate when people say that's women just
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: cry or bring it to the workplay.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: I hate that at all.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: Actually, some of the most sympathetic leaders in the world
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: have the ability to cry in front of other people,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: and it shows that you're human. It shows that you
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: feel something, you're not a robot. Yeah, that's how Sometimes
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: I just have to just sit and cry for a second. Sometimes,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: you know, you might just take a toilet break and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: just be like when it comes out and you're like,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: all right, okay, we can be fond from a therapist
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: on the other side, and it's like, oh my god.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Writ all of these notes on gentry is coping mechanisms.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: I can obviously very much relate, and I also agree
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: with you that being sensitive is an a weakness. In fact,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: it's you being upfront with what's really happening. What I
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: believe to be a weakness is when you don't have
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: the awareness to be that honest with yourself, to get
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: in this place where maybe you're approaching burnout, as you
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: so beautifully described before, and it is too much to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: handle because you can't acknowledge what's really going on.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, squishing it down, can't squish, No, we can't squish.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Right now, becks, you have an opportunity to give yourself
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: a piece of advice. I want to give a piece
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: of advice to the becks that's preparing for something that
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: feels so much bigger than her, And I'm not just
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: talking about altitude. You have so many tools at your disposal,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: and I know that you know this. So with the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: tools at your disposal, with this understanding of how these big,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: exciting aspirations can sometimes make us feel, what advice do
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: you have to offer to yourself as you prepare for
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: this next chapter?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, smell the flowers and blow out the candles.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Just keep breathing.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: Literally, just keep keep believing, keep breathing, take breaks when
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: I need to. Quite literally, you're gonna have to use
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: that and lean on the people you can trust.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: Beautiful. Thanks Gentry. Back on the showy. For those that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: aren't following along with you just yet, where do they
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: find you? On the socials?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: You can find me at bechst Gentry b E CSG
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: E N tly or you can tune in to many
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: a class on the peloton app or hardware. You'll find
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: me running, rowing, stretching, strength, thing strength, I'm outdooring.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I can't wait to outdoor with you.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: hurdle conquered.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Catch you guys next time