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- 0:36Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
- 0:41I remain as always your 100% unbiased, completely impartial, and slightly anticipatory host, old man shouting at clouds.
- 0:52Joining me this week is the usual panel.
- 0:55We've got MJ.
- 0:57hey everyone, hope you're enjoying World Cup football and CFL football as much as I have been.
- 1:03And back from the the wilderness after a week back home, hopefully less sleep deprived, GT.
- 1:11Hey everyone, yep, back and ready to go.
- 1:13Let's give it another one.
- 1:14Here we are, it's Tuesday night.
- 1:17Alright, see what we can do with this.
- 1:19We we we may come across a little bit punchy.
- 1:21We've had a bit of technical problems to start.
- 1:24So this this is our sec second attempt.
- 1:26But I will say I'm I am slightly anticipatory because I've got touchdown Kelowna coming up.
- 1:33The first of the two games here in Kelowna.
- 1:35I get to go see a a full Bonafada football, CFL football game without traveling three and a half, four hours.
- 1:42And I'm really looking forward to it.
- 1:44If any of you folks are coming in town for the game, if you see me there, please wave, say hi, give me a nudge, whatever.
- 1:51I'd love to chance to talk to you.
- 1:53I'll be in the uh west end zone and wearing some sort of rider gear.
- 1:58They're saying it could rain, so it could be a jersey, but it could also be thirty-five, so it could be a tank top.
- 2:04We'll see about that.
- 2:05I just wanted to uh give you a shout out for uh the the little bit that you put out earlier on YouTube about uh Kelowna and all the how to get around and how to park and
- 2:14where to eat and everything else.
- 2:16It was really well done and I'm sure the fans out there appreciate it.
- 2:19And yeah, lots of great information there for everyone.
- 2:21If you haven't seen it already, go check it out on YouTube old man giving you how to get around Kelowna for the for the weekend and best places to go.
- 2:30So it was great.
- 2:32Oh, wow.
- 2:33Thanks, GT.
- 2:34Complimentary words.
- 2:36And normally you don't bring me anything but down.
- 2:39yes.
- 2:40If you do yes, if if you do look up the the uh the video on YouTube, it's just a short like two-minute or and you will find in the description I put in the link for the website
- 2:51that's got all the information about parking and shuttling because do be aware of that.
- 2:55There is no parking at the Apple Bowl and anything anywhere close you have to pre-book ahead of the event.
- 3:01But anyway, we've got other stuff talking about.
- 3:03We've got first of all a couple of comp uh comments for out of YouTube.
- 3:07We had uh Danielle Robert 13235 came in before the riders g uh s Calgary game, I gotta say.
- 3:16So he was predicting, not just talking about it, but he said
- 3:19in response to what we were talking about last week, he said basically that uh Saskatchewan didn't have Emless or Baker versus Calgary last year.
- 3:28It will definitely help.
- 3:29And yeah, it did.
- 3:31And we s we're gonna talk about that.
- 3:33And then we had somebody coming after actually catching our lyrical eloquence, going for some identifying some of our lyrics.
- 3:42And so this was Daniel Daniel or Danielle?
- 3:45Robert
- 3:47sorry, I got the first one wrong.
- 3:49I attributed it to Daniel.
- 3:50It's first one was Nick McConnell.
- 3:52Daniel said rock and roll lyrics.
- 3:56or sorry, rock lyrics rolls with the punches by Byron Adams and five dressed up as a nine should be three dressed up as a nine by Trooper.
- 4:04And then he goes on to say that GT sounds like an old rocker.
- 4:08Danielle Langois, go als, go.
- 4:10So mine
- 4:12Yes, you corrected me.
- 4:13It should have been three dressed up as nine by trooper, so thank you for that.
- 4:16And you got me.
- 4:18What about you, GT?
- 4:19Did he get you or was it something from Brianette?
- 4:21he no he didn't actually.
- 4:23It wasn't Brian Adams and it uh and if he and if I did quote that line from Rolls with the Punches, then it was accidental 'cause that wasn't the quote I had intended to use.
- 4:32Mine was, if you remember correctly, in the the preamble to last week's show, I said, again, it's it's Tuesday night and I'm all revved up with no place to go, which of course
- 4:41is the classic song title and line from the the original Bat Outta Hell by Meatloaf.
- 4:47So
- 4:48Yeah, that was mine that I used last week.
- 4:50And uh and I do wanna just say to the challenges out there this week that if MJ is not able to get this week's, he's gotta turn that jersey back in.
- 5:02Okay.
- 5:02I find this so stressful.
- 5:05This whole segment is so stressful for me.
- 5:08It Yeah, it's all fun.
- 5:10It's all fun, fun, fun.
- 5:12So I'm guessing you didn't sneak anything in last week then.
- 5:15I It gives me so much anxiety.
- 5:18Yeah.
- 5:18One day it is gonna happen though, one day.
- 5:21Just watch out.
- 5:24Yeah.
- 5:25go.
- 5:25Yeah.
- 5:26the crowd will go wild.
- 5:30Anyway, that's our interaction this this week from the well there was some more, but those were the ones that I wanted to highlight a little bit.
- 5:38And thank you for the folks that that did comment.
- 5:40Please, others play the game, see if you can get what's in, or just tell us what you think and please remember subscribe.
- 5:47Definitely, definitely helps.
- 5:48And if you haven't done it yet, A you don't miss the stuff and B it helps us.
- 5:54Oh
- 5:55I just heard a yelp.
- 5:56You may have to uh excuse me tonight, by the way, if I get interrupted.
- 6:01uh the goddess is cruising to Alaska at the moment.
- 6:05So our puppy may feel left out with me doing this for two hours.
- 6:09Anyway, hopefully that won't won't interrupt too much.
- 6:13Jumping ahead wi with stuff, you were going to mention something about the folks over at Rouge, White and Blue, GT.
- 6:21Yeah, you know, I wanna just wanted to talk about this briefly in that uh as you're pro as you guys I think are all aware, when I was overseas I had a the great opportunity to meet
- 6:30with Oz Davis and one of the co hosts of Rouge Right and Blue along with Joe Pritchard.
- 6:34and it's funny because you know the three of us have we've been at this what, this is our second year in and we've never actually met each other.
- 6:41We've been talking about football in three separate places.
- 6:44Well they've been doing it for over ten years.
- 6:47uh and again had never actually met each other.
- 6:49So by the time when I actually met Oz it I met him before Joe did, which is I thought was pretty funny.
- 6:56but since then I've learned that unfortunately um Joe has decided that after more than ten years of podcasting, that he's just decided that he's a little worn out, so he's called it
- 7:07a day.
- 7:08And unfortunately, uh, they're they're not gonna be podcasting anymore as Rouge, White and Blue.
- 7:14And it takes me back to when I first started listening to podcasts ah not that long ago.
- 7:18It was only six, seven years ago, I think, when I finally figured out how to listen to them on my phone there was a bunch of people out there then that I that I the initial guys
- 7:26that I started listening to, one of them was Rouge, White, and Blue, of course, two and out in the previous iteration before Sheldon joined the team.
- 7:33they was it was lots of fun, of course.
- 7:35There was also
- 7:37the unofficial Tokyo Tokyo's unofficial CFL podcast with Scotty and those and that was fantastic.
- 7:44I love those guys and they're no longer on the air.
- 7:47And then along came the Mark cast in during um with Reed Johnson during COVID and he podcasted for about five years and and then he had basically worn out himself as well.
- 8:00So it just makes me want to say, all to all the podcasters that have come and gone.
- 8:05Salute.
- 8:07We wish you well.
- 8:08Joe, Oz, all the best in whatever you're gonna get through.
- 8:12And uh as I said to them, if we ever need a co host, can we reach out?
- 8:16And they both said absolutely.
- 8:17So yeah, you know, they might yet show up.
- 8:20So there you go.
- 8:21Okay, th thank you for that.
- 8:22Yeah, Joe and Oz were were some of the first ones I listened to as well.
- 8:26And I loved the the American take that they brought to the to the CFL and big, big fans of the C F L, even though they are Americans.
- 8:34So sorry to hear you we won't have you back this year, guys, but thank you for the information and education you've given us all along and I'll do my salute with my
- 8:42Because I still have possibly editing or something to do after the show.
- 8:46Anyway, so much for the tribute there to yeah, a lot of great people that have been doing this for a long time.
- 8:52And hopefully we can do half as good the job that they've had done.
- 8:57But we also had big big news this week.
- 9:01In fact, today, in fact, about four hours ago.
- 9:04And I've been saying not on here, but with some folks I know especially after the last Ottawa game that
- 9:11I thought the first quarterback that got injured there'd be a sudden trade for Drew Brown out of Ottawa who didn't seem to be new needed so much anymore.
- 9:22Apparently it didn't take an injury.
- 9:25MJ, you brought this up, why don't you tell us?
- 9:28Well, so earlier today there's news that Max Duggan got cut and they signed some person I don't know.
- 9:35And I actually don't even remember his name right now because I so much else happened.
- 9:40And then later all of a sudden it got announced that they traded Drew Brown to the Bombers in exchange for draft picks.
- 9:48I was like, oh wait, why does Winnipeg need Drew Brown?
- 9:53Interesting, interesting that they would entertain that.
- 9:56Well, because because we need a little controversy because it doesn't feel so empty without me.
- 10:01You know?
- 10:02So that's why.
- 10:05And then and then it came out well, two more things came out.
- 10:10One that they signed McLeod Bethel Thompson.
- 10:12Which as I told you guys a couple weeks ago, as a guy I bet you Ryan's on the phone to him and he was.
- 10:18Jeremiah Mazzilli remains unsigned.
- 10:20Anyway, McLeod's back in Ottawa.
- 10:24with Ryan.
- 10:26And then there's a rumor unsubstantiated at this time, but that Drew asked for a trade.
- 10:32So
- 10:33I can see that the way that things have been going with him.
- 10:36Although it's interesting that Winnipeg with Zack and Elgerma there, that that they were yeah, unless they're just looking for his experience in case Zack goes down and while
- 10:48Elgersma still learns, but I don't know.
- 10:50And by the way, the the fellow they signed was Nicholas Vatio, perhaps V A T T I A T O.
- 10:58Someone who
- 11:00From what they what I saw in the release did not did not have sparkling numbers in college or anything and but apparently he's the the longest standing member on their negotiation
- 11:10list.
- 11:11Whatever that means.
- 11:12So they have three backup quarterbacks.
- 11:14which is weird because it's not that means he's if he's the longest guy on their on their list, that means he's not a a a current gu whatever he's not he's not the guy because he
- 11:27was there from the previous regime, right?
- 11:29It's not like somebody that that really want.
- 11:32I don't know.
- 11:33It's just weird.
- 11:33It's just
- 11:34Well, I thought that at first, but then I thought mm, maybe not.
- 11:37Maybe when Dinwiddy came in he just tore up the whole old list and this was the first guy he put on it.
- 11:42Yeah, could be.
- 11:44The long yeah, it doesn't mean it's been forever, it just means it's been, you know, since Dinnwiddie maybe.
- 11:48Yeah.
- 11:49Yeah, exactly.
- 11:50But interesting news.
- 11:52I don't know that it'll change a whole lot.
- 11:54I believe that they gave up a first round pick next year for for him and they traded second round picks or something like that.
- 12:02I don't know.
- 12:02It's Anyway.
- 12:03a t it it's about it's about average, you know, a deal where in picks wise that you get for for quarterbacks in the league, American quarterbacks particularly.
- 12:13so I'm not that surprised on the on the actual deal itself.
- 12:18I'm surprised that the deal was done, but and to Winnipeg of of all places, but I'm not surprised on the level of picks back and forth.
- 12:26like if it had a been much more than that, I would have say somebody got robbed.
- 12:30But
- 12:31It in this case it's it's seems to be consistent with what, quarterbacks get traded for.
- 12:36Um a first round pick and maybe a second and and that's about it.
- 12:40and I think they were not even in the same year, right?
- 12:42There was one I think it was a first rounder next year and then uh it was the following year that the second rounders got exchanged or something like that.
- 12:50So yeah.
- 12:52But but in some ways they had it might even have been overpriced, 'cause if I remember right, that's basically the deal that Calgary s did to get VA.
- 13:01And while Drew is a good quarterback.
- 13:03He's not VA yet.
- 13:05Yeah.
- 13:06Well, we were talking about it a little bit offline, MJ and I, and we're saying that, maybe they're just not as a hundred percent confident in Elgersma as we thought they were.
- 13:15Maybe Zach, as MJ said, is a little more injured than he we thought he was.
- 13:20it's gonna play a little bit of hell with their with their salary cap though, 'cause Drew's still making four hundred on in the third year of that deal, unless they're gonna
- 13:29renegotiate it again.
- 13:30I don't know why he would.
- 13:32at this point.
- 13:33I wouldn't.
- 13:34Uh I wouldn't do it.
- 13:35Uh I don't know where he fits in.
- 13:37they're gonna have to move somebody off of the roster, you would think.
- 13:40Who will it be?
- 13:41Who which one of those four is no longer gonna be on the roster?
- 13:44And then if they move Perkins off the roster, who's doing short yardage for them?
- 13:49You're gonna have Yeah.
- 13:52Yeah, 'cause unless you put algorithm in there, but yeah, 'cause Brown is a little fragile for that, or it seems to Well.
- 13:59Algemer's big enough to do short yardage, but it's interesting.
- 14:03could be that he's just that they've seen he's gonna take a bit longer to develop than they thought and wanted some experience.
- 14:10Yeah, we'll find out.
- 14:11Nothing else?
- 14:13has the absolute worst quarterback room imaginable.
- 14:17Yeah.
- 14:17Yeah.
- 14:18No kidding.
- 14:19Yeah.
- 14:21Yeah.
- 14:23I am so sorry, red black fans.
- 14:25You know what who deserves better?
- 14:26Red Black fans deserve it better.
- 14:28And every single person on that team deserves better.
- 14:32Cause this is ridiculous.
- 14:33Well, Coach Dinwiddie's the quarterback whisperer, you know, so we'll we'll see.
- 14:38maybe it was Mark Miller this whole time.
- 14:43I don't know.
- 14:44I don't know.
- 14:45I don't know what's happening.
- 14:46Yeah.
- 14:48But it just part of it too is also I think there was like that locker room was probably pretty divided and Ryan's like, Okay, well, we're just gonna get rid of the guy that's
- 14:56causing the the divide, right?
- 14:59yeah, could be a Rourke VA thing there going on.
- 15:02Could be some of that.
- 15:03it could also be it could be, you know, Ryan did what he's is the new Jones.
- 15:08New Chris Jones.
- 15:09He's a great coach, not a great GM.
- 15:11You know, he's the new Chris Jones.
- 15:13Give him some black and he's perfect in it.
- 15:15So there you go.
- 15:17Yeah, exactly.
- 15:19Exactly.
- 15:20that is true.
- 15:21Yeah, and it's Yeah.
- 15:24And if yeah Yeah.
- 15:27Well hey, we had him in in in in Ryderville for a while too and it's not a great experience.
- 15:34but yeah, I I don't know if there yeah, if that room was divided at all, the divide was probably getting larger the more that Maier played too, 'cause he's so far he has not
- 15:45looked great.
- 15:46Although again Coach didn't when he puts that all on himself, he
- 15:49that game.
- 15:50But we'll s we'll see what Winnipeg does with that.
- 15:52A few other things, not a whole lot in transactions this week.
- 15:56The Stamps released a D-lineman, Morris Brash, who I didn't even know about, and they signed a name I do recognize, Benny Sapp the third, who was a D B that played with the
- 16:06Riders for three or four games last year and got cut out of training camp this year.
- 16:11He looked not bad.
- 16:12So they may have picked something up there.
- 16:14Saskatchewans brought in another D B, Burgess Jr.
- 16:18Reinforcements there because they had uh they've got Milligan down and it looked like uh it was it Schuster, Juju Schuster that they put in had a non contact injury.
- 16:28So I'm guessing it's nothing good there.
- 16:30So they'll need a bit more.
- 16:31And then in BC they've brought in the uh some reinforcements for the receivers, Malala and somebody Fitzgerald.
- 16:38And they released Sioni Tehama on the D line, which uh surprised me 'cause I thought he played well.
- 16:44Yes.
- 16:46Yes.
- 16:47I uh
- 16:49Yeah, their problem hasn't been on the D line.
- 16:52It's a little further back.
- 16:55Yes.
- 16:56Yes, I Oh well Yes.
- 17:02Anyway, and I'm this isn't a transaction, but I'm gonna throw it in 'cause I forgot to put it in the rundown anywhere else and it matters, and that's that uh Sean Millington from
- 17:11back in the nineties or
- 17:13tooth early 2000s with the Lions is going into the Hall of Fame got announced.
- 17:17So that's good news.
- 17:19And Ottawa, as you said, MJ release Duggan and sign Nicholas Vatay.
- 17:25So I can't even try I'm terrible with names.
- 17:29Anyway, somebody that we may hear his name.
- 17:33All right, moving along quick, because we got games to talk about.
- 17:36Got games to talk about, but first let's talk fantasy.
- 17:40Another great week for you, MJ.
- 17:43Gonna tell us what you did and how it turned out.
- 17:46Well, I was up against Adam from the CFL countdown, so I was pretty worried.
- 17:51Yeah.
- 17:52I beat him.
- 17:56Well done.
- 17:58but not by any I my I actually didn't have a very good lineup, so I just had a couple players who did some good things.
- 18:04So I had 140.4.
- 18:06So I had the TICATS defense, and I foolishly chose a quarterback and receiver who were playing in seven inches of downfall rain.
- 18:15So that was Alexander and Phil Pot.
- 18:18But luckily I had Thiece and Rankin.
- 18:21And then my other wide receiver was Wheatfall, because he had such a good game last week.
- 18:24I was like, surely.
- 18:25Surely he's now Bo's like go-to guy, zero.
- 18:29He got one pass, it dropped.
- 18:32And then I had Mitchell, who I also thought has was doing good with Bo, but not this week.
- 18:36So but not bad, not bad.
- 18:39All things considered.
- 18:40Thank you, Rankin.
- 18:41I wish y'all had made you my captain.
- 18:44I bet there's a lot of people thinking that way.
- 18:46But if I had he would have got minus five rushing yards.
- 18:50Like I just know it.
- 18:51I just know it.
- 18:53Well I and I'm happy to report for quickly for whatever it's worth.
- 18:57I've risen from the ashes.
- 18:58I got my first win, so I'm now one and two with it.
- 19:01I was up against Cooper Trooper from Canadian football countdown and he is very good, so I knew I had to had to get a good team.
- 19:09I don't know that I had a a fantastic team to t to tell you the truth, but
- 19:14Anyway, it was I had 146.5 and he came in at 142.
- 19:20Now mind you, it was a high scoring week in fantasy.
- 19:23Adam did say when he sent out the results for the week that the average score in the league this week was 131.7, I think.
- 19:30So that's huge.
- 19:33I Yes there was.
- 19:36And I went against a bunch of my rules in picking my team.
- 19:41And it worked out.
- 19:42So so I had the Hamilton defense.
- 19:45I said I would never take the Chad on fantasy, but I took him because I just I didn't want to miss that match up against uh Ottawa.
- 19:51And if he hadn't thrown four interceptions, my score would have been even better.
- 19:56But I also s I said I'll not pick a running back against the riders because of what they're doing.
- 20:01And in the end the way the team worked out, I had room for Mills, so I took him.
- 20:05And his second half helped me a lot.
- 20:07I also took Hicks from Toronto at running back and then I had a couple of Toronto receivers, Mitel and the new guy Khaman and that left me with enough money to take as my
- 20:17flex Tyson Philpot, who didn't perform as well because of the rain.
- 20:21But like I said, it I got the first win, I'm on my way now.
- 20:27As it sits, if the season ended right now, you'd be in the playoffs MJ, I'd be two spots out of it.
- 20:32So there's work to d be done.
- 20:33Did did you do a team at all this week, GT?
- 20:36Nah, too busy.
- 20:38Alright, so that that's basically the early news for the for this week.
- 20:44There's not a lot of it, which is good 'cause we've got four games to talk about.
- 20:48And the first one was
- 20:50Oh no, stop.
- 20:51Are we talking about Nathan Rourk?
- 20:54Or Chris Morris or Or attendance or Brendan Soresby Nice try!
- 21:04Nice try.
- 21:05messing around with the rundown that happens.
- 21:07So okay.
- 21:10So okay, these were all all MJ topics.
- 21:13So tell us first of
- 21:15MJ, but nonetheless, I noticed that.
- 21:21My bad.
- 21:22My bad.
- 21:23I'm sorry.
- 21:24So go ahead.
- 21:25Tell us what you tell us your news about what you the Edmonton Elks president was saying.
- 21:31We know guys, the vibes are pretty high in Edmonton.
- 21:34Like the team is 2-0 and things are looking up and Chris Morris just has to rein on his own parade.
- 21:41I don't want to talk about this, but it's everyone in Edmonton is talking about it, so we need to talk about it.
- 21:46he's there's a news article this week for Chris Morris saying that the name change remains the biggest obstacle in rebuilding support for the team.
- 21:54And then he said because of the name and COVID, but mostly the name, the ticket season tickets drop from 20,000 to 7,000.
- 22:02he said that they've looked at like the name going back to the old name, but it's not viable.
- 22:06So they're just gonna keep it.
- 22:07But they're not referring to it out.
- 22:09There's gonna be called them the green and golds or the double E.
- 22:12And I'm like, I don't know.
- 22:13I know Alberta gets a bad rap.
- 22:15a lot of the time, especially lately.
- 22:17But Emmonton's not like this.
- 22:20Emmonton is a very progressive city.
- 22:23Like very.
- 22:24They vote NDP in provincial elections.
- 22:27They vote NDP in federal elections.
- 22:29There's vegan restaurants ever there's a lot.
- 22:31There's there's a lot.
- 22:32It's a very like supportive collaborative community here.
- 22:36And I mean like just for example, like the Riverhawks one year like after they found the the the remains of those of the children
- 22:43from the residential school in Kelowna that that year, I think it was that year that the Riverhawks wore orange shirts on Canada Day.
- 22:49Like this is the vibe in Edmonton.
- 22:52You're not gonna get 30,000 people in your stands by blowing dog whistles about name changes.
- 23:00It's not gonna fly in this city.
- 23:01It's not gonna fly.
- 23:02So it's just it's unfortunate because like they finally have a good team and then he just it just
- 23:09I w I also want him to go to a Riverhawks game or a Stingers game to show them how to do game day situations because it's not it's not the name changes the reason people aren't
- 23:18there.
- 23:18It's your garbage team.
- 23:20Well we used to be.
- 23:21It's your garbage stadium experience.
- 23:23You mismanaged a fan I don't think they understand how upsetting it was that for fans in Edmonton uh of the Elks that they mismanaged Trey Ford.
- 23:33That that
- 23:34That is you can't even quantify it because it was so upsetting for people here.
- 23:37You mismanage like a absolute crowd favorite.
- 23:40And yeah, your game day experience is just really bad.
- 23:44So like that that those are nothing to do with a name change.
- 23:47If you start winning and have a good game day experience and put a good team on the field and have some positive community outreach, no one's gonna care what your name and your
- 23:55team is.
- 23:55So just like grow up and get over it.
- 23:57I'm so sick of talking about this.
- 24:00Yes.
- 24:01Yeah, a hundred percent.
- 24:02I mean, it's not the it's got nothing to do with anything except that they've been a bad football team for a long time.
- 24:10And they've been uh in the news cycle for a long time, not only as a bad football team, but as a bad organization.
- 24:18with bad people running the organization, one after another after another.
- 24:22It's not, you know, until this last year and it looked like they were moving in the right direction, but they've swung sort of now they're
- 24:30and now making comments that are kind of leading them back to bad people in the organization.
- 24:35So they just need to win football games and get out of their own way.
- 24:41And the fans will be back.
- 24:42And it's got nothing to do with the name of the team.
- 24:45As that merchandise proved when they made that name change,
- 24:49It was selling like hotcakes.
- 24:50Everybody loved it.
- 24:51They did a great job with the change over over the field and the showing off the with uh bringing out the emblem in the middle of the field and everything else.
- 24:59I remember that.
- 25:00And that was that the fans were excited by it.
- 25:02Then there was a big crowd that day.
- 25:04So it's got nothing to do with the name change.
- 25:06It's got all to do with the fact that since the name change, coincidentally, before and leading up to the name change and since, it's been a terrible team.
- 25:17In a terrible organization.
- 25:19The only thing they've done right is the name change.
- 25:23So get over the name change excuse and do everything else right, and you wouldn't have a problem.
- 25:29I mean, the the running joke for the first three years was that Calgary won more games in in Commonwealth than Edmonton did.
- 25:36If they put as much energy into anything else as they do this name change complaining about this, like sky's the limit.
- 25:46Like, just honestly.
- 25:48the thing is this was this was semi predictable when when we saw Larry Thompson buy the team and immediately start talking about how he didn't like the name And then he
- 25:59reinforced it by by building an echo chamber of people who had that same opinion as their front office.
- 26:06And
- 26:07It's unfortunate.
- 26:08You would think that you could move past racism and just e put entertaining football on the field and entertain the fans with a good with a good product from your how you present
- 26:18it and you'd be fine.
- 26:19And I think they will be if they just concentrate on that.
- 26:23I have no problem with them marketing the double E.
- 26:26The it's still the double E.
- 26:28It's still the Edmonton Elks.
- 26:29It's double E.
- 26:30The colors are the same.
- 26:32I have no problem in going back to old uniforms and just a double E on the helmets.
- 26:37That's what they did.
- 26:39That's what they were.
- 26:40So I that's fine.
- 26:41it's just the incessant bringing it up and talking about it.
- 26:44I did feel by watching that interview that he got a little side swiped, so to speak.
- 26:49It didn't feel like that's where he n was going to go, but then that's sort of he got led there by the questioning.
- 26:55but then he delved into it.
- 26:57I mean he went into it and I think that was the mistake where he just he should have recognized, you know, that that no, that's not where I need to go and back off and and
- 27:07change the subject.
- 27:08So maybe he needs a little bit of media training, maybe.
- 27:11But that was wrong.
- 27:12and the second inter the second thing that you had posted, MJ, about the comments that he made about about the immigrant status, that was he wasn't wrong.
- 27:22He's absolutely correct.
- 27:24He's a hundred percent correct, except that he used the wrong words.
- 27:29Cause you don't indoctrinate anyone.
- 27:32Indoctrination is not what we do.
- 27:35Indoctrination is forcing.
- 27:37We don't force people.
- 27:39We educate, we we try to bring along, and yeah, we've done a terrible job of bringing the history as a country, as an organization and as a CFL, as a league has done a terrible job
- 27:53of getting out to new immigrant statuses.
- 27:55And teaching them about the CFL, the history of the CFL, the importance of the CFL, and the lovely game that it is and how exciting it can be.
- 28:04I say that and I've said that for a long time.
- 28:06So I completely would agree with him on that.
- 28:09But the fact is you can't blame them again.
- 28:12You don't blame the people that aren't coming.
- 28:14You blame yourself for not getting them to come.
- 28:17You've said that before, MJ, too, and I agree with you 100% that this is not anyone's fault but the organizations.
- 28:24It's not the government's responsibility.
- 28:26It's not the immigrants' responsibility.
- 28:29It's the league and the organization's responsibility to go attract those new those new immigrants and those new Canadians.
- 28:36And you don't indoctrinate, you teach and you educate.
- 28:40And then you make them fans.
- 28:42That's what you do.
- 28:44That's your job.
- 28:45Go do it.
- 28:46Don't blame someone else.
- 28:49Yes, you welcome them in.
- 28:51Well said.
- 28:53You also apparently I skipped over a few things that you wanted to talk about, MJ, because you also mentioned to me something about mister Rourke and well I'll let you take it from
- 29:02there.
- 29:03Yeah, this this is a good news story.
- 29:06So um Yay, finally a s a a positive story in the press.
- 29:11Nathan Bourke did a really nice interview with Ian Hanna Mansing on C B C and they talked about quite a few things, but the overarching thing was talking about his um Be More Than
- 29:22a Bystander program that he's a part of where they go and talk to youth, mostly men and boys about
- 29:28Like being more than a bystander.
- 29:30Like about toxic masculinity and gender based violence.
- 29:34he actually really opened up.
- 29:35He was saying that like he does this because his mom was a victim of like a survivor of sexual abuse and that and and his faith, which are thing these things are important for
- 29:43him, and he's just like trying to make the world a better place.
- 29:45And I thought that was like so sweet.
- 29:48so good for him, good for him.
- 29:49because of this red pill stuff is
- 29:51quite scary and if you can get a a star of a league and a face of a league out there talking about this stuff to young men, this is fantastic.
- 29:59he also they also kind of tried to get him to talk about the NFL.
- 30:02And he was just like, you know, yeah, I had fun there.
- 30:05I'm here now.
- 30:06And it was interesting because he was talking about how um the CFL needs to market Canadian players
- 30:10He's like, We have really great Canadian talent and it's just not being marketed.
- 30:14And I was like, man, Nathan, I love you.
- 30:17Yes, that's exactly he's like, We've missed the you've missed the boat on this complete made in Canada.
- 30:23You could have done a whole campaign about it and it it didn't happen.
- 30:26So And then what else he yeah, and then he talked a little about his flag football.
- 30:31So like, you just you're gonna go play in the Olympics?
- 30:33He's like, Well
- 30:35I it wasn't even a thing I thought I could do and I wanna try.
- 30:38He's like, but I've started Flag now because I have a lot of respect for the athletes who have been playing Flag at a very high level and I'm just not just basically I'm just not
- 30:47gonna walk in there and take someone's job without knowing how to play.
- 30:50I am working on how to play Flag football.
- 30:53So very, very humble, very nice interview.
- 30:56It was it was really well done.
- 30:58He's he he's a blessing to to this league.
- 31:01And he's right.
- 31:01We the league did the exact opposite of what was needed to take advantage of the whole Canadian pride that's going on out there But more important, all that you said was good,
- 31:09but the first one about a role model for young men pushing against toxic masculinity because there is so much of the online world out there pushing for it and trying to
- 31:22indoctrinate these
- 31:23these unfortunate young men into bad attitudes.
- 31:26So thank you, Nathan.
- 31:27Yeah, I thought it was a terrific interview.
- 31:29I really enjoyed it.
- 31:31Good.
- 31:32Yes, and n and important that he speaks out.
- 31:35I hope we maybe s you know, he had the chance, but we've got other other good Canadians out there that I'd love to hear weigh in on this too.
- 31:42So Canadian football players.
- 31:45Two other things little bit quickly, don't you know that they need a lot.
- 31:48We were talking about the attendance and the first week was terrible at seventeen seventeen thousand nine one hundred and nineteen on average.
- 31:57Second week jumped way up to
- 31:59twenty seven and almost twenty-eight thousand.
- 32:02Unfortunately, this week with Games back in Ottawa and Edmonton still, that didn't help.
- 32:09So we were down almost to what we were the first week.
- 32:11It was 17568.
- 32:15But
- 32:15to Edmonton, we got a month's worth of rain in two days.
- 32:19It it no, how you saw it on TV was like a fraction of what it was actually like sitting in those stands.
- 32:27It wasn't it was my god.
- 32:30Yeah.
- 32:30credit to the the fans that were out there.
- 32:33That that is something else, yes.
- 32:35And that so that impacted it.
- 32:37But you can see the the impact was also like Ottawa.
- 32:40I think Ottawa had less than their first game.
- 32:42They had just under 14,000.
- 32:45Calgary was there we go.
- 32:49Calgary was was the best at over twenty one thousand and Hamilton was up over twenty thousand.
- 32:55So
- 32:55Five thousand more than their first game, even though it was a Friday night game,
- 32:59Yeah.
- 32:59Hamilton Haml I was gonna mention when we got to the game, but I don't know if they announced that many, I was gonna ask what the attendance was, 'cause it certainly didn't
- 33:07look like it on television.
- 33:08It looked really empty on television.
- 33:10Alright, so do teams this is the interesting thing, do teams base attendance on ticket sales or do they uh base it on scanned tickets because they're two different things.
- 33:21no, they're on sa it's on sales.
- 33:23It's not on scan tickets.
- 33:24That's
- 33:24mean you might buy a ticket and just be like F ug gross, it's so gross out I'm not going.
- 33:29Like
- 33:30happened in Edmonton more than anywhere else, right?
- 33:33'cause even their season tickets, they just count them automatically as attending So I mean, you know, you can tell the season ticket base by the minimum number that they will
- 33:42tell you for any attendance.
- 33:44I just thought Hamilton in particular looked uh very empty.
- 33:47I was very surprised considering, you know, the first two weeks they had, the home game against BC, against Nathan, everything else.
- 33:55I thought there would be a
- 33:56a much better looking crowd than it looked like on T V.
- 33:59And I know there's the end zone party places and all that other stuff, but that still doesn't excuse wide open swath of empty stands.
- 34:07I wonder what their ticket prices are.
- 34:09I'll have to look.
- 34:10I think they're reasonable.
- 34:12They're higher than Toronto.
- 34:14I know that.
- 34:14When I buy tickets between when I go to game in Hamilton, it's always more money than it is in Toronto.
- 34:19Always and considerably more.
- 34:22You know.
- 34:22Well we'll get CUD reporter MJ working on that to come back with the next
- 34:27I'll do a deep dive of ticket prices across the the the league.
- 34:32Anyway, so a little bit disappointing.
- 34:34Will it be better this week?
- 34:35I I certainly hope so.
- 34:37And we'll see, 'cause there there's games back in in at least the two prairie hotbeds that that sell very well.
- 34:44it'll get dragged down somewhat by touchdown Kelowna because you're twenty thousand maximum there, but and I think they've they had sold it out and they've now
- 34:53apparently found a few other seats and released a few more this week.
- 34:57I don't know if those have been gobbled up or not.
- 34:59But we'll see.
- 35:01The other thing that before we go on to the the games that you brought up, MJ, was the bad boy quarterback from down south, Brandon Soresby, is this it?
- 35:12The the college guy who's been suspended for betting on games.
- 35:16Betting on his own games.
- 35:19So and lot uh four ninety thousand dollars of bets over four years.
- 35:24this NFL released a notice today that they were they were gonna have a supplemental draft, and he was the only one that applied, and they're like, your application provided no
- 35:33evidence as to why we should let you be in the supplemental draft.
- 35:36So they're not having a supplemental draft.
- 35:38And I only bring this up.
- 35:40Because then everybody today was like, well he's going to the CFL, like, oh, get ready CFL, he's coming, he's gonna 'cause he's not eligible for the NFL draft till twenty
- 35:50twenty-seven.
- 35:51I was like, hmm, guys, we also have gambling rules in the CFL.
- 35:56Like talk to Sean Lemon.
- 35:58We have gambling rules.
- 36:00He's not coming here.
- 36:02Anyway, that this whole story was just to say, like, he's not coming here.
- 36:05Stop talking about it.
- 36:07generally those comments just disregard them because they're from people in America that have no idea what the CFL is.
- 36:15They just know they just believe that it's that it's a lesser league and that's where all the washed up people in America go to.
- 36:23They have no concept.
- 36:25They have no idea of how it works.
- 36:26There's no way a guy like that that is why would he why would he even bother?
- 36:31You know, he's got a year.
- 36:32They have already said you can come back next year, but you can't come in this year.
- 36:35So he's made enough money, I'm sure, from NIL that he can wait a year to go back.
- 36:40He'll still be a a first round pick.
- 36:43He might not be the number one pick anymore, but he'll be a first round pick next year.
- 36:47So it's like take a year off, chill and learn get and mature a bit and may and maybe you'll get over it.
- 36:53So yeah, it w he was never coming here.
- 36:54That's just
- 36:55those squawkers every single player in the in the states that crashes and burns, get ready to go to the CFL.
- 37:02Whatever.
- 37:03why?
- 37:03Somewhere that is though, GG's?
- 37:04Because the Argos keep signing these kinds of guys.
- 37:08I was like, if anyone's gonna sign him, it'll be Toronto
- 37:12Yes.
- 37:13Yes.
- 37:13There was I and it's gone on forever.
- 37:15There was a line in North Dallas forty from I think the early seventies where the b the uh player wasn't wasn't performing well and someone said to him, Better learn to speak
- 37:24Canadian.
- 37:25You know.
- 37:26So it's yeah, but no, I mean first of all, why would anyone in the C F L want him for one year?
- 37:31He's no matter how good he is, he's learning a brand new game and and trying to perform and knowing you're gonna lose him right away.
- 37:37And second, what you said.
- 37:39You know, and plus we don't want gamblers in the league.
- 37:43And what you said, GT, if he is that close to being a top round NFL draft, then he's made millions in NIL number already s already.
- 37:54So yeah.
- 37:54doesn't have that money anymore 'cause he's gambled it all away.
- 37:57all the way that's possible too yeah I don't know anyway that's that's just that's about it we're we're gonna go on to the games as soon as I say one more thing because I forgot
- 38:10this on fantasy because I enjoy these little things about it so I'm watching the games and I know what my team has and I don't check the tracker through the game
- 38:22And that but I know what my team what I've got for for players and I'm feeling pretty darn good about it.
- 38:27And then I the game's over and I look and I find out I won by four points over Cooper Trooper.
- 38:33So that's okay, so who did he run?
- 38:35Turns out he ran Ken Schaefer Baker as one of his players.
- 38:40So that l second last play of the game where the Calgary defender came up and smashed Ba Schaefer Baker on the one inch line and kept him out of the end zone.
- 38:50Gave me my victory.
- 38:51He got the touch that it would have been six points for Cooper Trooper and I would have been losing again.
- 38:56So you just never know where you're gonna find the points in these games.
- 39:01They say it's four or five plays every game, right?
- 39:04Yeah, and apparently that's true of fantasy too.
- 39:08Fun when you get one that hits that close to home.
- 39:10Anyway, so am I safe now?
- 39:13Have we covered everything we were going to?
- 39:15Okay.
- 39:16I I I I I do not want to to face a revolt here, so Okay.
- 39:26Alright, so the first game of the weekend.
- 39:31Okay.
- 39:33You're not saying with who, you're just in solidarity.
- 39:35right.
- 39:37So
- 39:40okay.
- 39:40First game of the the weekend was B C going into Hamilton and um they were in an unfortunate position because four of their starting five receivers were injured and out.
- 39:55And for some strange reason they elected not to field a defense.
- 39:59So game didn't go well, it didn't go bad actually.
- 40:04B C twenty seven, Hamilton forty one, but
- 40:06BC had two garbage time touchdowns to to get them there.
- 40:11It was pretty much dominated by Hamilton.
- 40:14If anything, I was impressed with the amount that Rourke was able to move the ball with a completely new set of receivers.
- 40:23But that's pretty much the story.
- 40:26What what were your thoughts on it?
- 40:28MJ there, Hamilton's your team.
- 40:29Why don't you lead here
- 40:31I made a joke that Bryce should have started this game because these are all the practice roster guys that he's used to throwing to.
- 40:36It might have gone better.
- 40:38yeah, I I as as you said, I don't think the BC defense got on the plane.
- 40:43that was terrible.
- 40:45That was terrible, terrible defense.
- 40:50Bo had five touchdowns.
- 40:52I think they said he had a touchdown for every three completions.
- 40:55Like they didn't cover Lawler?
- 40:57Like Lawler's been like shut down for two weeks and then you guys rule into town and all of a sudden like the you've opened the cage now, right?
- 41:04Get ready other teams.
- 41:05but yeah, that was that was that was bad and I'm not I you know, I have a lot of Lions fans in my family and they are all very upset that Benavidi still has a job as of today.
- 41:16Very upset.
- 41:19Yes.
- 41:21like I don't know.
- 41:21What I have some I've watched this game and I wrote down some notes and now some of them don't even make sense, but we'll go through.
- 41:26yeah, I feel bad for BC because Poussant got injured during that game and McInnis got injured during that game, so they basically had no receivers.
- 41:37Yeah.
- 41:37Well McInnis went back out there on one leg.
- 41:40Yeah, his ankle is wrecked.
- 41:43believe late in the game they were still running.
- 41:45I'm like, they must have zero people left on the bench they were talking on television, why do you have your both quarterbacks out there, Rourke and Bo late in the game at this
- 41:57stage before Bryce even went in?
- 41:59Why are they both still out there?
- 42:00And
- 42:01And I'm like, why is McInnis still out there?
- 42:03You've got no receivers, and you and this is the only guy you're gonna have for the next six weeks by the looks of it.
- 42:10And he's on one leg.
- 42:12if he goes down for any length of time, you're really screwed.
- 42:16And then sure enough, today I read that he's not gonna be able to go this week at least.
- 42:20So they're down to, as you said, signing guys that you know, looking around, trying to find people.
- 42:26It's it was wild.
- 42:29At some point, like can your DBs go line up as receivers?
- 42:32Like at some point.
- 42:34Yeah, so s like why wouldn't you take a couple of your ball hawks and just go put them out on receiver?
- 42:40Like you it's uh the game is already over.
- 42:44Save McInnis from like doing more damage to his ankle.
- 42:47Put some DBs out there that you know can like catch the ball decently well.
- 42:52Don't put Rourke back out.
- 42:53It was stupid that Rourke and
- 42:56Bo were out there.
- 42:57I understand that Bo was trying to get six touchdowns, blah blah blah.
- 43:01But I'm not a fan of that because I like to take the long view.
- 43:05We need you in October and November.
- 43:08There's no reason why Trey and Bryce sh shouldn't have been playing, like at least for like the last twelve minutes of that game.
- 43:15I personally think Rourke was in there because he hadn't thrown a touchdown pass yet this season.
- 43:20'Cause as soon yeah, but I'm not saying it's right, but but I'm saying that I think was it because as soon as he threw the touchdown pass, he was out and Chase was in.
- 43:30Yep.
- 43:30Pierce and Nathan Brook.
- 43:32I don't care.
- 43:33You're gonna you he w what if he gotten injured in garbage time?
- 43:37Like that's y whoa, it's reckless.
- 43:39It's reckless.
- 43:40I have a note saying there was a challenge of an automatic challenge, but I don't actually remember.
- 43:45I think there was like an automatic review for something that someone challenged I think it was Ben Major again that they did this to.
- 43:51Okay.
- 43:51he and he was laughing again.
- 43:53And again he had why me looking on his face.
- 43:56It was hilarious.
- 43:57It was classic.
- 43:59Well it was and it was it was better than than just that too because I have it down in my notes as the Ben Major workout program because he lost the connection from his headset up
- 44:10to the re the the replay center.
- 44:12So he had to run all the way over to the sidelines, get a sideline officials headset, go through it all, got it okay back, I'm out on the field, the challenge is here, this is how
- 44:21it's turned out.
- 44:22Started walking onto the field and the challenge flag comes out, so he's gotta run all the way back to the sidelines again.
- 44:29Oh goodness.
- 44:30Ah.
- 44:31But hey, it worked out in the end.
- 44:32the challenge to the challenge actually worked this time.
- 44:34one worked out I think.
- 44:36what else?
- 44:37okay so this like Mang for the Ty Cats, pretty good, huh?
- 44:43He is a global player from Germany.
- 44:46He is not a punter.
- 44:48He is a fullback.
- 44:51So well tight ends, I guess.
- 44:56Yeah.
- 44:57with J Robinson last year, but they do he the way he him and Milanovich are using him, they may start seeing other teams actually real tight ends in the CFL again.
- 45:07He's been a really fun and he was just like the joy on that man's face.
- 45:12He is just like living his best life and it's just like so nice to see.
- 45:16And the okay, so it's not just the receivers and D Bs that were drama because the BC punter had three special teams tackles, and if your punter is having to tackle three
- 45:27times, then it's not going well for you.
- 45:30Good tackler though.
- 45:32Yeah, he's gonna get hurt.
- 45:35Stop doing this.
- 45:37I don't know.
- 45:38I think it's a disaster.
- 45:39Ed's is a good disaster on all three fronts for this team, except for Sean White and Nathan Brooke.
- 45:44Everything else is a mess.
- 45:46Like and then my favorite Luke Wilson moment was when he said, I'm confused when there was a fumble that was not a fumble call.
- 45:53He was like, I'm confused.
- 45:54I'm like, you know what, Luke?
- 45:55You're right.
- 45:56Me too.
- 45:57Thank you for voicing that for all of us.
- 45:59He had a couple good one-liners like that.
- 46:03When like they tore up like Bo tore the one part, he's like, I don't understand what's happening here.
- 46:07He's like, What why?
- 46:09yes.
- 46:10anyway, I'm one and against my husband and the Thai cats are hummin'.
- 46:15Things are going good for me.
- 46:17Gotta like it.
- 46:18Did you see any of this one, GT?
- 46:20Any thoughts or comments?
- 46:22Yeah, I did.
- 46:23my first thing is because of last week I did not see I did not see the BC game, so I could not comment at comment on their uniforms.
- 46:30I did see the uniforms this week.
- 46:32They're bad.
- 46:33They're bad.
- 46:34Um so yeah, I the the brief look I had at the Saskatchewan ones today they look pretty bad too.
- 46:42so
- 46:43The Ottawa ones look great when we get there.
- 46:45I thought the Ottawa ones looked like a classic white uniform, not some shenanigan white try to s you know, sell something uniform.
- 46:52Whatever.
- 46:53you know, B C it was like, yeah, they had nothing.
- 46:56I thought uh Benavidi's defense is back from the middle of last year.
- 47:00They just showed up.
- 47:00It was funny because even like
- 47:02A after that first touchdown, which again, we know Bo loves to go deep early in the game and they set it up and there was a beautiful pass, was down the field.
- 47:09He was so wide open.
- 47:11Uh and Dusty and and was in the count going, did they not know?
- 47:16And then they looked, they showed the receiver on on the sideline.
- 47:19He's looking at the the pad and he's like, I can't believe they left me open that way.
- 47:23Like he's like, Wow, just going, Wow, it was incredible.
- 47:27It was pretty funny.
- 47:28BC man, they look so sad at the end of the night.
- 47:30They look blown out like Pink Floyd back in seventy five.
- 47:34And I was there for seventy I was there at seventy five and it was yeah, well it was a lot better than they looked at la last night, I'll tell ya.
- 47:42So so yeah.
- 47:43Yeah.
- 47:44Anyways, it was uh it was pretty it was pretty awful for for BC.
- 47:49Yeah, it was.
- 47:50And yeah, I thought that one of the most telling things about the fact that you could see Hamilton wasn't terribly worried about the downfield passing because there were at least a
- 48:02few, I think several, second and long situations where they rushed three, but they kept two spies basically just hanging out at the edge of either flat for if Nathan tried to
- 48:14come on out.
- 48:15And it worked out well.
- 48:17break.
- 48:17It's fine.
- 48:18a five man rush, just two of them were reserved.
- 48:22I was I was I was thinking this at through the game and then it was and then it turned out at the end of the game, statistically, I was going Nathan's having thrown from you know,
- 48:32he's he's had the ball longer, he's run more plays, they just didn't score.
- 48:37If they had a scored in they were like every time uh Hamilton scored on those long passes in the first half,
- 48:43BC answered with a drive, then then they just didn't put it in into the end zone and they ended standing for field goals and that was it.
- 48:50Then they just uh couldn't keep up in the second half.
- 48:53But if they had been able to score at all on any of those drives, it might have completely changed that game.
- 48:57But the fact that they didn't and then sure enough at the end the statistics showed that I mean, I think he out threw Bo.
- 49:04he think he had more completions, he had more passes, he had more yardage, they had more time, they had more running.
- 49:10They like the stats were totally in in B C's favor, and yet the scoreboard was the exact opposite.
- 49:16So all that matters.
- 49:19I said the t earlier I thought I thought it was an absolutely fantastic performance he put together considering he was throwing to a bunch of guys they picked up at Home Depot that
- 49:29morning waiting for work, you know.
- 49:31So it's yeah.
- 49:34The other thing that I liked ab about this before was pre game, they interviewed Keandre Smith and uh questioned about the fact that Justin McInnis said McInnes and Hatcher were
- 49:44the best
- 49:45Best receiving duo in the league.
- 49:48And what do you have to say about that as far as you and Kenny goes?
- 49:51And I loved it because he didn't brag or anything.
- 49:54His response was receiver's a ego position.
- 49:58You know what my answer is.
- 50:01Yeah.
- 50:01Well he has an ego, there's no doubt about that.
- 50:04But
- 50:04Keandre cannot like keep maybe he's learned a little to keep his mouth shut after last year.
- 50:10Yeah.
- 50:11we were talking last week about guys that need we need we need some guys that run their mouth in the league.
- 50:16There's no problem with that.
- 50:18Yeah.
- 50:19Yeah.
- 50:19Well Bo's not doing too bad.
- 50:21Bo's not doing too bad with player of the week sign held up in front of the camera before after the game with three games still to play and stuff.
- 50:28Yeah, no.
- 50:29He's d he's all right.
- 50:31Bo wants everyone to know that they made a terrible error in MOP last year.
- 50:36He's still bitter about it.
- 50:37He wants everyone to know that that was a mistake.
- 50:41Yeah.
- 50:42Anyway, that was in many ways a game best forgotten.
- 50:45It does show that Hamilton does have a very good team.
- 50:48game.
- 50:49I had an amazing time.
- 50:51I enjoyed all of it.
- 50:54Fantastic game of the week.
- 50:56Well well we won't talk anymore about it so we don't take any of your glow away.
- 51:00We'll just we'll just leave that masterpiece right where it was and move on to Toronto going into Ottawa.
- 51:08Toronto 44, Ottawa 24.
- 51:11the first time Jake Maier threw the ball up in the air, it was someone in a different colored jersey that caught it.
- 51:16And that pretty much explains the game in itself.
- 51:21Other stuff happened, but that that is at least uh a good metaphor for the game overall.
- 51:28Uh
- 51:30experience.
- 51:31Yeah.
- 51:31So go ahead, tell us more about it, GT.
- 51:34Well, you j basically summed it up.
- 51:36I mean again, I didn't watch all these games because I was really busy, so I had to watch them on repla or on record.
- 51:43And so I was flipping through with trying to skip commercials and ended up skipping most of the games somehow.
- 51:50But that's what happens when you hit one button too many, all of a sudden it's the end of the third quarter.
- 51:55And that's basically what happened in this game as well.
- 51:58so I missed a lot of it, but every time I
- 52:00every time I turned it on, it was one of two things, either a touchdown or an interception by Chad Kelly, one or the other, because he had equal number of each, I think, and Jake
- 52:08Maier doing Jake Maier things, which is n you know, just not good enough.
- 52:13Just not good enough.
- 52:15That's all there is to it.
- 52:16And when you need a turnover, guaranteed he's gonna give you a turnover.
- 52:21Wrong way, but he'll give you one.
- 52:23they did something very similar to BC where Toronto would score a touchdown and they would come back, but they would end up kicking a field goal.
- 52:31And then Toronto would go back and score touchdown.
- 52:33You're never gonna keep up if you're kicking field goals.
- 52:37And there are other teams scoring touchdowns.
- 52:38That just seem because it was close until the half.
- 52:40Like at the half it was still pretty close.
- 52:43And that's when I left to go to the Elks game and I like, Okay, well this is actually turning out to be a much better game than I thought.
- 52:48And then I saw the score and I like, goodness, then when I saw the highlights I just thought yeah, they just could not there was no red zone production from the Red Blacks.
- 52:56Which is too bad.
- 52:57It was too bad because you know, they have such a good receiving core.
- 53:01that it's this is so silly.
- 53:03And then their defense was like I think their defense played really well.
- 53:06Like Niles Morgan was playing lights out.
- 53:09Lights out.
- 53:10But then, if you're always on the field, you just you can't keep that up for four quarters when you're playing the bulk of the time.
- 53:17It's just too bad.
- 53:18Well well Coach Dinwiddie said it's not Maier's fault, it's his fault as the play caller that he didn't put Mare in a position to succeed.
- 53:28And he needs to do much better at that.
- 53:30And I thought, Really?
- 53:31You mean those three times when you were on the one yard line trying to go into the goal line and you went out of the shotgun all three?
- 53:39That wasn't the best call playing.
- 53:42no Again
- 53:45they try a run that gets stuffed.
- 53:47All out of the shotgun.
- 53:49So I don't know if he figures he doesn't.
- 53:51Maybe that's what this guy they brought up out of the States is.
- 53:53Maybe he's a third down guy.
- 53:55short yardage.
- 53:56Who's doing short yardage for them?
- 53:57Nobody.
- 53:58Well, maybe it's Nicholas Bateto or whoever.
- 54:02That maybe I didn't see his I the one thing well, I probably saw it, but didn't really p take note of his size.
- 54:08Maybe he's six eight and three hundred pound quarterback that they're gonna use on third down stuff, but they needed something.
- 54:15Yeah it's there were
- 54:18game.
- 54:19Yes, he did.
- 54:19He caught ev just about everything thrown at him.
- 54:22Yeah.
- 54:23It he was the the the one sort of bright spot out there for them.
- 54:26But there was there was also a moment people complain about returners just running to the sideline and out.
- 54:35Why don't they fight for those few extra yards?
- 54:38And there was a moment where you can see why not, because Grant did that.
- 54:42He streaked to the sidelines and then just as he got there there was a bit of an opening, so he turned to try and go upfield for probably what a could have got, maybe if
- 54:50The hole he thought was there another three or four yards, but it wasn't and he just got pasted.
- 54:55So there's a reason you keep going out of bounds when you can.
- 54:58Yeah.
- 54:59And but the only other thing, I mean there's not so much to talk about with this game 'cause it just it wasn't a good game anyway around, really.
- 55:05You know, like you said, Kelly looked fantastic in the first half.
- 55:09In the second half he couldn't couldn't tell what color he was throwing the the ball to.
- 55:14And apparently I
- 55:16him get his head knocked?
- 55:18Like 'cause someone said that i he started playing like crap after he like hit his head.
- 55:23Well I saw
- 55:24he took a couple shots with the helmet came off in the first half.
- 55:28So
- 55:30Yeah.
- 55:30I saw a comment from Coach Miller.
- 55:33I didn't the way that I the article that I saw didn't really say was he asked did Kelly have a concussion or did he bring it up on his own?
- 55:41But he addressed the concussion thing and his answer frankly appalled me.
- 55:45It was, I don't think so.
- 55:46They didn't tell me anything about a concussion.
- 55:49The three down guys were really up in arms about this today 'cause they said that they saw him I dunno if it was a hit or if he hit his head off the ground, but then he started
- 55:57throwing interceptions after that and they they I didn't I didn't see it, but if that's true that's a terrible coaching.
- 56:06Well it is.
- 56:06And then something about the organization and it's Kelly, 'cause don't forget the game that he got hurt.
- 56:12He talked about the fact that he was playing concussed in that, but he just didn't tell anyone 'cause
- 56:16Yeah.
- 56:17Yeah.
- 56:17Right.
- 56:18Yes.
- 56:19Your backup w that grey cup.
- 56:21They can go in.
- 56:22Arbuckle can go in.
- 56:24It's not like you're putting no name guy in.
- 56:26Oh my goodness.
- 56:28Alright, well, good luck, Argos.
- 56:31Yes.
- 56:32They the the only other thing worth mentioning in this, and it's at least on a slightly lighter note perhaps is the fact that again they the uh commentators love to pump up the
- 56:42players, especially the stars and Dwayne Ford got talking about Pickett what a great defensive player he is and his comment was and of course Ottawa would have loved to keep
- 56:52him, but they just they couldn't find the money to fit him in.
- 56:55And I'm sitting there thinking
- 56:58Do you read remember this the way I do that Dinwiddie came into town and three days later he was released?
- 57:03Pickett's a hell of a good player, I'm very impressed with him, but there's something between him and Dinwiddy that just doesn't doesn't play well.
- 57:10that they released Lewis Ward while he was on his honeymoon in Mexico?
- 57:15No, I didn't know that.
- 57:17Class.
- 57:18Nice guys, nice.
- 57:20That's it.
- 57:21Going on going on to the this week's monsoon bowl.
- 57:26Montreal twenty-nine, Edmonton thirty-two.
- 57:31Bit of a shocker.
- 57:32It's the game we all got a little wrong on our picks last week.
- 57:36And it was played in the rain, and so there was some ugliness and some sloppiness, but there was also some very good football going on.
- 57:44And full credit to
- 57:47to the elks.
- 57:48they fell behind a bit early, but they ended up cu coming back, fighting their way back in it, got it into overtime and then took it out took it over in overtime.
- 58:01And the in the end, a defining moment was within overtime, Rankin fumbled and there was a big sh kerfuffle and shuffling and crashing around.
- 58:13And it was awfully hard to tell who touched the ball before it went out of bounds.
- 58:16Looked like it could have been either.
- 58:18Looked like there might have been Montreal, but they ruled Edmonton on the field and there wasn't enough to overturn it.
- 58:24And I mentioned this because I'll be talking about this with a an interesting part of the weekend later on too.
- 58:31But that was a key moment where, like I said, it you could depending on on
- 58:37Which color you were wearing of a jersey at the day you could make a good case for either team getting it.
- 58:42And it was good to see the replay center when they just say we don't have enough evidence.
- 58:47We're gotta go with the field.
- 58:49Yeah, they used that line on television twice that they you know, there wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call.
- 58:55Mm I I I thought Boscherman had tou I thought Boscherman was underneath of it in that play.
- 59:01I really did.
- 59:01I thought it was Montreal's ball.
- 59:04and that and they would have won the game on that 'cause they would that would have been a turnover and they would have won by by the field goal instead of losing by the four points
- 59:11or whatever on the on the touchdown by Edmonton later on, but like uh on that same drive.
- 59:16that eventually Fujardo ran it in the opposite direction and into the end zone for.
- 59:20but at the same time, Montreal kind of took their foot off the gas in the third quarter and Edmonton made adjustments.
- 59:27Montreal didn't seem to make the adjustments at halftime.
- 59:30and uh and Edmonton made some.
- 59:33And then Rankin just did rankin' things.
- 59:35as much as I just
- 59:36say that you need to spy that guy.
- 59:38He's so good.
- 59:39You need to spy that guy.
- 59:40I mean, he's he can stop on a dime.
- 59:43He can make a turn.
- 59:44And then he's so fast that once he gets going, yeah.
- 59:48they had him twice in the backfield on both of those touchdowns.
- 59:51He should have been stopped in the backfield.
- 59:53But he turned on a dime again, credit to Edmonton that they won.
- 59:57I don't think that they played that great a game.
- 1:00:00I just think they won.
- 1:00:02um on two huge plays really by by rankin and then a very nice touchdown by fajardo at the end of the game.
- 1:00:09I thought that was a well executed play in overtime where he faked to ranking and then went the other way into the end zone.
- 1:00:16I thought that was well executed.
- 1:00:18But I also think they shouldn't have had the chance to execute that, that that should have been game over and Botcherman had that ball, in my opinion.
- 1:00:24But whatever.
- 1:00:26it was a monsoon, so you take what you can get.
- 1:00:28I thought uh Alexander played great in the first half.
- 1:00:31He played great it to make to at w to get some momentum back.
- 1:00:35once Edmonton had basically won the third quarter and taken all momentum away.
- 1:00:40Um I thought Montreal was like gave themselves a chance to win after taking themselves out of the game
- 1:00:46Well, Rankin was their top receiver as well as their rusher.
- 1:00:50Like he that me mmm you can't do that.
- 1:00:55receiving yards are like a five yard pass and a sixty five yard run.
- 1:01:00So those that that counts.
- 1:01:01That's not like it's a sixty five yard pass, you know?
- 1:01:05So
- 1:01:06one else had over fifty yards except for him receiving.
- 1:01:10says something about the Al secondary though, because that one was one thing I noticed is that for some reason the Al's pass rush really wasn't there.
- 1:01:20Cody was getting a long time back in the pocket to get the ball out and he was still either checking it down or throwing it away a lot of the time.
- 1:01:29So on the back end their coverage had to be really solid.
- 1:01:33And maybe that's where Rankin got a lot more touches with with it from from there.
- 1:01:37But
- 1:01:38Yeah, he I have to agree with you, GT.
- 1:01:41it was a it might have been the best game I've seen from him yet, because I've seen him do quite well where he manages to get around a corner or break through a couple of tackles
- 1:01:53and then streaks to the end zone.
- 1:01:55But these ones he worked for.
- 1:01:56He was, like you said, reversing his field, breaking tackles, doing what he needed to get out into the open where his speed could really take a take over for him.
- 1:02:05Yeah, I th but he but he wasn't there throughout the game.
- 1:02:08unless I'm mistaken, but I don't remember his first half being anything to to write home about.
- 1:02:14had they had negative rushing yards at one point in the game.
- 1:02:18Yeah.
- 1:02:18I was sitting by the scoreboard.
- 1:02:20Yeah.
- 1:02:21He's either he's either negative yards or over twenty.
- 1:02:26yeah, interesting game.
- 1:02:27Good for them.
- 1:02:28oh, good for them.
- 1:02:29Yeah.
- 1:02:29Yeah.
- 1:02:30And I noted at one point there was a great punt by Zima who didn't just put one in and out of bounds on the one yard line.
- 1:02:38He kicked it and sort of backspun and left it sitting in the middle of the field on the one yard line and no return uh capable.
- 1:02:45So gotta appreciate those kind of skills from a punter.
- 1:02:49Other than that, yeah, I sort of agree with you.
- 1:02:51Edmonton I think that's the identity of their team.
- 1:02:53They're just gonna keep scrapping and scrapping and
- 1:02:56They've got a good enough defense to hold teams to you know, into the twenty to thirty point range and if they could pull off a few big plays one way or another, it's gonna be
- 1:03:08interesting this weekend.
- 1:03:09like there was a minute left in the first half and I was thinking Edmonton might not score.
- 1:03:15Like they might go they might be shut out going into the second half or then they've and they finally got a touchdown with zero seconds or whatever it was left in the first half.
- 1:03:23and then they came out of the break and were on fire, it seemed in the third quarter.
- 1:03:28but it was yeah.
- 1:03:30so I it wasn't like they had a great first half.
- 1:03:32I just again I don't think they
- 1:03:34They played scrappy.
- 1:03:35I think they just kind of Montreal took the foot off the gas somehow in the third quarter.
- 1:03:41and I don't know why, but they seem like that's what happened.
- 1:03:43And again, I think it was two tremendous plays by one individual player, not a great t overall team kind of comeback that did it all.
- 1:03:53It was just two tremendous plays that scored two touchdowns, and all of a sudden they're like, Wow, now we're in this game and we actually have a one point lead.
- 1:04:00And then they kind of rolled a bit from there before Montreal
- 1:04:03w went whoa and woke up again.
- 1:04:05So
- 1:04:05mind you, I've gotta say, whether that fumble was Montreal or Edmonton, I really couldn't tell.
- 1:04:10And on a couple other challenges I couldn't tell, but I did have my old prescription then and apparently my eyes are getting worse.
- 1:04:17So I have brand new fancy glasses today with a new prescription and I can actually see things.
- 1:04:22I'm not trying to to interpret the foot ball by braille anymore on the the screen.
- 1:04:27So maybe I should
- 1:04:29should take your word for it.
- 1:04:30But I th I thought that they they showed some grit stuck in there.
- 1:04:34Interestingly enough, maybe it was just because it was in Alberta, because there was another game in Alberta that had a very similar sort of trajectory.
- 1:04:43Oh okay, go ahead.
- 1:04:45All right.
- 1:04:45Oops, okay.
- 1:04:46like you guys don't want me to do this podcast today.
- 1:04:50That is not true.
- 1:04:52That is not true.
- 1:04:54at this game and it was like the most rain I've ever sat in in my entire life.
- 1:04:58but I just want you know it was it was the home opener and we got to the train station downtown because we have to change trains now because there's a new train line and also
- 1:05:07and there's like people dressed up as referees directing you to which train to get on to get to the stadium and was like this is so nice they they gave my kid a they were blowing
- 1:05:16the whistle at my kid because he's got his aloez hat on it was so nice.
- 1:05:20So I was like
- 1:05:21Is this like the Edmonton Transit or is this the Elks that are doing this?
- 1:05:24This is so awesome.
- 1:05:26Like this has been really helpful.
- 1:05:27And I went up into one of them and asked, and you know what, I'm gonna shout them out because it wasn't the Elks or Edmonton Transit that did that.
- 1:05:34It was the Edmonton Arts Council and they were volunteers and they came out to they thought it'd be really a nice gesture to do that for first game to help fans navigate the
- 1:05:44new transit system.
- 1:05:45Yeah, good for that.
- 1:05:46nice.
- 1:05:47They had like music and whistles and tr it was, yeah, it was like they were getting the party started for those of us who are brave enough to go.
- 1:05:54And I had so much rain gear on.
- 1:05:57I've never worn so much rain gear in my life.
- 1:05:59And it was the rain stopped for a bit and then it was just torrential.
- 1:06:03And at one point
- 1:06:05when Philpot caught the pass on the sideline, I leaned for because we were sitting in the end zone.
- 1:06:09I leaned forward because I was like, that was a catch.
- 1:06:12And they ruled that no, we're all leaning forward.
- 1:06:14All the rain from my poncho real fell on my soaked my both me and my husband were like, no.
- 1:06:23but yeah, so like if you were at the game with us
- 1:06:26Kudos to you.
- 1:06:27Yeah, I was you know what it it wasn't too cold.
- 1:06:30It was really cold up in the concourse, it was really windy up there and cold, but down field level it was pretty warm.
- 1:06:36So we were able to stay the whole time.
- 1:06:38And uh yeah, so a couple things.
- 1:06:41Maltos' groin looks just fine.
- 1:06:43He kicked five field goals.
- 1:06:46So he was apparently game time decision.
- 1:06:48So the no problem.
- 1:06:50I was like, they're really
- 1:06:51Tested it out there.
- 1:06:52Like five field goals.
- 1:06:54and then Cody and Cody and Alexander traded jerseys after the game.
- 1:06:59That was really nice.
- 1:07:00They took some pictures.
- 1:07:01That was cute.
- 1:07:03And I think he was just like, if anyone's gonna beat me, I'm glad it was Cody.
- 1:07:06Kind of had that look about him on the sideline.
- 1:07:10and then I just want to shout out the Alouettes It was pouring.
- 1:07:14You lost in overtime on an
- 1:07:17Very questionable iffy call.
- 1:07:19And Maltos Diaz and Phil Pot both came over to talk to my kid after the game and take pictures with him.
- 1:07:26And you you didn't have to do that.
- 1:07:27You were miserable.
- 1:07:28And you just you made his day, so thank you.
- 1:07:33Yes.
- 1:07:33Yeah, I saw the pictures and I was so impressed by that.
- 1:07:37Like you said, under those situations.
- 1:07:39Yeah.
- 1:07:40Yeah.
- 1:07:40And and Phil bought with a smile, just a huge smile, you know, it's very impressive.
- 1:07:46Okay.
- 1:07:48Any more?
- 1:07:48I do want you to come back next week, so I want
- 1:07:51I hope it's sunny next time I'm there.
- 1:07:53That's all I'll say.
- 1:07:55I know I'm like that's it.
- 1:07:57Hitting the sleeve button.
- 1:07:59Yes.
- 1:08:00I I might be getting a little gun shy here.
- 1:08:02Ha ha ha ha.
- 1:08:03Okay.
- 1:08:05So maybe the trajectory of the Edmonton game has something to do with being in Alberta because there was another game very similar.
- 1:08:12Actually a lot different, but it was similar in that Saskatchewan came out gangbusters, took an early lead.
- 1:08:20Calgary's the offense was frankly anemic in the first half, and then it just flipped around completely in the second half, went into it wasn't
- 1:08:31yeah, it was double overtime that it took to get there.
- 1:08:33There were a couple of really interesting challenges in this one too.
- 1:08:37In the end, it was Saskatchewan that in the second overtime got the touchdown as opposed to a field goal for Calgary and came out ahead Saskatchewan forty, Calgary thirty seven.
- 1:08:50So there's a lot to talk about.
- 1:08:52My first thought was for GT, that's it's the trying to to think.
- 1:08:58The jersey from Saskatchewan.
- 1:09:01Yes, the Michael Bishop jersey.
- 1:09:04Michael Bishop, that's who it was.
- 1:09:06So it's at seventy seven dollars and counting.
- 1:09:09So it could be
- 1:09:10in counting with one game left on October the second.
- 1:09:14huh.
- 1:09:15So that could be an expensive one for anyone who's looking at maybe trying to get in when that one's available.
- 1:09:20Now now tell me, if they meet in the playoffs, are we putting that on too or is it just regular season?
- 1:09:25Yeah, I had it at regular season.
- 1:09:30probably best.
- 1:09:31I left it at regular season, so yeah.
- 1:09:34So it's at currently I was gonna mention this myself, that currently that's jersey is now at seventy seven dollars and with the next game is October the second and that will finish
- 1:09:44it off and we'll go from there.
- 1:09:45So by Thanksgiving somebody will be someone we hope will be the proud owner of a Michael Bishop Siskatch one Rough Riders jersey.
- 1:09:53So
- 1:09:54Yes.
- 1:09:55So tell us what else did you see in the game?
- 1:09:58I saw red and not just the team.
- 1:10:01I saw red coming I saw steam coming out of my ears.
- 1:10:05I was like, yeah, that was a terrible first half.
- 1:10:07I was like, again, uh I I it was so bad that first quarter and in midway through the second quarter that I was so furious I was just skipping ahead so fast.
- 1:10:19I missed I missed a uh apparently a
- 1:10:22kickoff or a punt or a field goal or something for a touchdown by Calgary at the end of the half.
- 1:10:29I missed the next thing I turned it on, it was 31 seventeen for Saskatchewan and midway through or late in the third quarter.
- 1:10:37And I thought it was over and then all of a sudden Calgary woke up and it was like, well where why didn't you play like this for the first half?
- 1:10:43Why did you wait until the fourth quarter and be down 14 points before you decide to play?
- 1:10:48I was furious.
- 1:10:49I haven't been that furious with the team in a while
- 1:10:52It only goes to show again, I guess, that I have expectations this year because I certainly wouldn't have been that's mad this early last year when I had zero expectations.
- 1:11:01So I do say something about what I th what where I put the team.
- 1:11:05But the rest of the game was like, yeah, you know, they they played well.
- 1:11:10Saskatchewan played well.
- 1:11:11I thought it was a g entertaining game and at the end it was what it was.
- 1:11:14We lost.
- 1:11:15Done.
- 1:11:16And uh all of a sudden, you know, it's one of these two teams between uh Calgary and B C is gonna be O and three and I didn't think either of those two teams would be O and three
- 1:11:25to start the year.
- 1:11:26So
- 1:11:27Yeah.
- 1:11:28That's that's true.
- 1:11:29Well Calgary wasn't all bad plays in the first half.
- 1:11:33They did manage to sack Harris and get a strip sack down inside the Saskatchewan ten if I remember right.
- 1:11:40And so they put that in to get a touchdown and that kept them within touch within the game.
- 1:11:46And
- 1:11:46more I was more concerned was the uh secondary than I was about the line.
- 1:11:51and I thought the the they they did a pretty good job on Oulette as well.
- 1:11:55So I thought the front seven played well.
- 1:11:57I thought the back end was horrible.
- 1:11:59Just horrible.
- 1:12:00They weren't in position.
- 1:12:02There was like that Emless catch over the middle.
- 1:12:04there was no one else in the picture when he caught the ball.
- 1:12:07Literally, there was no one else in the picture.
- 1:12:08It was ridiculous.
- 1:12:10You know.
- 1:12:11Mind you, they did that to BC too, so it's how much is is one, how much is the other.
- 1:12:16The but the other thing you mentioned about the the return for the touchdown, that I remember Corey Mace at the end of the uh Western final when he kicked the ball away a
- 1:12:29couple of times when everybody said you can't do that and then ended up winning.
- 1:12:33He said, We practice
- 1:12:35We prepare for every scenario that can possibly happen.
- 1:12:38So we're not making a choice in the moment.
- 1:12:41We know what we're gonna do ahead of time.
- 1:12:43Well, I think this was the first time I've seen him flustered where they weren't prepared for it because what you were talking about there, Saskatchewan scored the touchdown with
- 1:12:52very little time left in the half.
- 1:12:54I think thirty seconds or something.
- 1:12:56On the kickoff, the ball hung up in that heavy wind and
- 1:13:00One of the Saskatchewan cover team managed to run in and and recover it about the thirty five yard line.
- 1:13:07So they got the ball back and there was like time for one play that I think they ran and got a yard or two and then they had to decide what are we doing from here?
- 1:13:14It's a it's a forty some yard field goal into a heavy wind And I would think that from what I've seen of him, if he was prepared for that, Mace would have Just take a knee.
- 1:13:25We've got a good lead.
- 1:13:26Why take a chance on anything?
- 1:13:28But in the rush of having to make a decision, they sent the field goal kicker out there.
- 1:13:33He took it wide and McAllister ran it back for the touchdown and brought Calgary back into the game.
- 1:13:38So that I put I put that down to a great special teams play by Calgary and a great return by McAllister, but also to a real coaching error i at where they were in the game.
- 1:13:50The three points weren't at a premium at that point, i in my opinion.
- 1:13:54uh I was zipping through it so I didn't even see it.
- 1:13:57I you know, I w again, I would have I was I was just angry.
- 1:14:03well, by the time I got home from the Elks game, this game was over.
- 1:14:10So I have three notes for you.
- 1:14:12One, wind seemed to be a factor.
- 1:14:16Two, the stamps kept pace with the Grey Cup champions, so don't despair too much, GT.
- 1:14:22three, people said they didn't like this, but I
- 1:14:26Liked that Lappa wore his western gear.
- 1:14:29It's uh almost stampede time in Calgary and he fit right in.
- 1:14:32Yeah, I thought he looked good.
- 1:14:34He looked yeah, he looked relaxed in it.
- 1:14:36He looked like he w he wasn't he wasn't just showing it off, he looked relaxed in it.
- 1:14:40So there go.
- 1:14:41It's getting getting ready for Stampede Bowl.
- 1:14:43Yes.
- 1:14:45the other thing that I quite liked about this game is I mentioned the fumble in the Edmonton game that it was awful hard to tell if that was the right call or not.
- 1:14:53I can't say it was or wasn't.
- 1:14:55Well this game we get I think it was within the overtime, there was a play where Evans comes around the end for Saskatchewan and takes a SWAT VA's hand and
- 1:15:06The ball comes out and either he swatted it out as VA was getting ready to throw, or VA was throwing and he hit it from behind and it made the ball just slam into the ground.
- 1:15:19There were looks from either angle that would say, Yes, that's obviously an incomplete pass, or yeah, maybe it's not.
- 1:15:26But it was inconclusive again.
- 1:15:28the
- 1:15:29Replay center didn't do anything stupid.
- 1:15:30They went with the call on the field, which was an incomplete pass, and I thought that's great.
- 1:15:36Don't overturn the game with a a call that's you just you can't tell.
- 1:15:40And then we get in further into the overtime, and on the last drive where Saskatchewan finally goes down and scores, there's a critical throw to Dell Duncan Busby on about the
- 1:15:50eleven yard line.
- 1:15:51Where he catches it in bounds, but as he's going out of bounds, maybe the ball moves a little bit.
- 1:15:56And again, you can't tell are his hands under it, did it get to the ground And it's possible it wasn't a catch, but it was ruled to catch.
- 1:16:04And again, it stood.
- 1:16:05So I thought that was interesting that in really tight games, the three times the replay center said, We're not gonna do anything to affect this game without more evidence than
- 1:16:17that.
- 1:16:18And I think that's a great sign.
- 1:16:20unless we know absolutely for sure, I would much rather see the field the call on the field stand.
- 1:16:25And that's just me so
- 1:16:26Yeah, no, I agree with you.
- 1:16:28I I agree with you in principle on that, the fact that that as they said on the broadcast, there's no, clear what do they call it, overwhelming evidence or whatever the case may be,
- 1:16:37so that it's uh concise and overwhelming, whatever the terminology is.
- 1:16:41And I and I agree on all three of those plays that there i i there was tight.
- 1:16:47I I disagree on that again.
- 1:16:48I thought he first of all I didn't think he was in bounds necessarily.
- 1:16:52Uh and secondly, but he did bobble the ball enough, but did he bobble it enough to not have it or was his hand still underneath of it?
- 1:17:00It was kind of hard to tell.
- 1:17:02So it wasn't you know, I wasn't freaking out about that one too much.
- 1:17:06I I thought Montreal's was more agarious than that one.
- 1:17:10I thought um I thought for sure Boscherman had his hands under that ball in the Montreal game, much more so than I thought that Busby was inbound.
- 1:17:18So there you go.
- 1:17:20with all of them I didn't see enough to tell and it was like there's four teams involved, three plays, and three of the teams benefited from the play.
- 1:17:28So it wasn't like the refs were calling it one way for one team and not for the others.
- 1:17:34I liked it.
- 1:17:34I liked them let them see liking them seeing them let them play the game and just keep that uncertain element a little bit in it.
- 1:17:42I think that's part of the part of the appeal of football to me.
- 1:17:45Okay.
- 1:17:45I got one other point and nothing else after that.
- 1:17:49So MJ, just to be sure you're you're okay now?
- 1:17:53Good.
- 1:17:55There we go.
- 1:17:56Yes it was.
- 1:17:59Yes.
- 1:18:00And my last point is I found out this weekend that not only am I a Saskatchewan fan, but so is my phone.
- 1:18:08And this may not matter to anyone but me, but I'm gonna mention it anyway, because I use my phone to take voice notes.
- 1:18:14So after every time that there's a score, one of the things I do is I give the score.
- 1:18:18I pick up the phone and I go, Okay, you know, Calgary ten, Saskatchewan fourteen or whatever.
- 1:18:24And I don't know why, but every time I
- 1:18:27No other team but Saskatchewan, it always adds an extra one to it for me.
- 1:18:32So Saskatchewan is always a hundred and fourteen or a hundred and twenty or a hundred and thirty-five.
- 1:18:39I just I've worn it down and become a fan like me.
- 1:18:42M moving on from there.
- 1:18:45Power rankings time.
- 1:18:48What do we got per power rankings, GT?
- 1:18:51GT, these are so popular on Instagram.
- 1:18:53I can't wait to see these this week.
- 1:18:55Well the but but is but are we getting arguments?
- 1:18:58Are we getting legitimate arguments or are we just getting yes and no's or
- 1:19:01like people are like arguing about it in private.
- 1:19:06No one's gonna say it to your face.
- 1:19:09Alrighty, well this week's power rankings according to me and only me, so that if you are angry, do not be angry at old man and MJ.
- 1:19:18these are mine.
- 1:19:19Saskatchewan remains undefeated and they're still the champions, so they are still number one.
- 1:19:24Hamilton after that game they have to be at number two.
- 1:19:28I am going to put Edmonton above Montreal simply because they won that game.
- 1:19:32So I will put and they're 2 0.
- 1:19:34Montreal is now 2 1.
- 1:19:35So Edmonton, then Montreal.
- 1:19:37then Toronto, because of the number of points they've scored in both games.
- 1:19:41then Winnipeg because uh they're they're still at least have one.
- 1:19:45And then Calgary, BC, and Ottawa in that order.
- 1:19:49because and I had originally
- 1:19:52BC Calgary, but I changed it just because we're now getting into the point of the season.
- 1:19:57We're three games in or three weeks in at least, where we're now talking about the season as such, and I think that we can make some conclusions about the teams rather than just
- 1:20:06rely on last year's or last year's standing and and sort of a gut.
- 1:20:11Now we're actually seeing where we think these teams are.
- 1:20:14And based on BC's receiving issues, I move them down a notch and put them, you know, below Calgary.
- 1:20:20That's the only reason they're there.
- 1:20:21but that's the reason I did it.
- 1:20:23So if you're wondering.
- 1:20:24And then Ottawa, because Ottawa's Ottawa.
- 1:20:27That's the power rankings for this week.
- 1:20:29Yeah.
- 1:20:30All right, and good stuff.
- 1:20:31So before we go into our predictions, I will tell you the um injury reports as I've seen them so far here.
- 1:20:39There's the last game there's not even they haven't even practiced yet, the Montreal, Ottawa one.
- 1:20:44But in Edmonton and the bombers, Anderson did not participate and has been ruled out for Edmonton.
- 1:20:52And Robostelli is again did not participate, but he hasn't been in yet and he's ruled out.
- 1:20:56So Anderson could make a difference.
- 1:20:58It's is it Morgenson, I think, is their backup there.
- 1:21:01He played well last year, but against your running team against a possible running team, we don't know with Mr.
- 1:21:07Cundell there, but team that can run like Winnipeg, having your your m Mac back out could matter.
- 1:21:12And uh the bombers really had nobody of of any particular point there.
- 1:21:20Okay, and then the rest of these Saskatchewan, there's a laundry list, but it's their first day at practice, so I don't know how much to read into this.
- 1:21:28But in the did not participate category, there was Del Duncan Busby, Joane Hughes, who was the starter at the one side halfback.
- 1:21:39And I don't think he'll be back in.
- 1:21:41There's also Nelson Lacambo, AJ Olette, and James Watters were all did not participate.
- 1:21:46And um then Keishon Johnson was limited.
- 1:21:50And Benoit Marion on the D line, who hasn't been in yet, was limited, so maybe he's coming back.
- 1:21:56And Toronto had Dwayne Hendricks, is still limited.
- 1:22:01Ethan John did not participate.
- 1:22:03Uh Priester did not participate.
- 1:22:05And Kevin Mitel was limited.
- 1:22:08The last game that we have any for is Calgary at BC here in Kelowna.
- 1:22:13Adrian Green did not participate.
- 1:22:15Christine Nakou on the O line.
- 1:22:17Is he a starter, GT?
- 1:22:18I'm not sure.
- 1:22:18Okay, he's you
- 1:22:21left guard or right guard?
- 1:22:23Right guard, I think.
- 1:22:24Yeah.
- 1:22:24Okay, yeah.
- 1:22:25So he did not participate.
- 1:22:26Jalen Philpot did not participate.
- 1:22:30And that was basically the name should recognize there.
- 1:22:32And then with the BC Lions, yeah, uh Hatcher was limited.
- 1:22:37McInnes did not participate.
- 1:22:39Poissant did not participate and uh Patrice Renee was still on the did not participate.
- 1:22:45So don't know if we'll see Hatcher and I think I heard someone say that we're they've already said that McInnes probably won't.
- 1:22:53Goad, was it you that mentioned that, GT?
- 1:22:55Yeah, I thought I read that somewhere today that McInnis has ruled out for this week.
- 1:23:00Okay, yeah, so so there could be some interesting games.
- 1:23:04Let's talk about what uh what's gonna happen.
- 1:23:08Edmonton going into Winnipeg.
- 1:23:10The linebacker bit scares me and the fact that Winnipeg does bounce back well and they've had a full week of practice to prepare scares me, but I'm gonna go with Edmonton.
- 1:23:21I think they're getting it together.
- 1:23:23How about you, MJ?
- 1:23:24The Elks are coming off a win against like arguably what everyone would assume is the top team in the East.
- 1:23:32The bomber I don't know because the first game they used Brady a ton.
- 1:23:37And then the second game they didn't use him.
- 1:23:40So what's this third game going to be?
- 1:23:43What's going on in that quarterback room?
- 1:23:45Who's doing short yardage?
- 1:23:47Are they carrying four quarterbacks this weekend?
- 1:23:49Where is it in?
- 1:23:50Winnipeg?
- 1:23:51You know what, I think you know what, I'm gonna go bombers.
- 1:23:54I think that the I think I think they're gonna have a more trouble with the bomber defense than they did with the Louettes defence.
- 1:24:02Okay.
- 1:24:02So GT, you get to decide where the show goes with our picks.
- 1:24:06Hm.
- 1:24:06This one I don't think Edmonton's offense is that great.
- 1:24:09Again, as outside they haven't done much.
- 1:24:11The receiving core hasn't looked terrific.
- 1:24:13if you can contain Cody, you're all right.
- 1:24:15then it comes down to ranking and it's all about ranking and their offense.
- 1:24:18That's basically it.
- 1:24:19Their defense is playing playing relatively well.
- 1:24:22I thought Trey Ford did a pretty good job on Phil Plot the other day.
- 1:24:26You know, he was seemed to be covering a man on man for most of that game last weekend.
- 1:24:30So I think their defense looks okay.
- 1:24:33I Yeah, Winnipeg has been yeah, I'm I'm going bombers.
- 1:24:37I'm going bombers in a low scoring, not great game, is how I kind of expect it to be.
- 1:24:44so I'm I'm overruled again.
- 1:24:47I will point out that the the show last week went uh one and three and someone on the show went three and one, but not that that should influence anyone's picks.
- 1:24:58Hey man, that was a turnover in OT.
- 1:25:01All right, moving on.
- 1:25:02Toronto at Saskatchewan.
- 1:25:04MJ, why don't or yeah, you didn't start.
- 1:25:06I d I started, so why did you tell us your thoughts?
- 1:25:09suck.
- 1:25:09This is gonna be a riders win.
- 1:25:11Okay.
- 1:25:12I always pick Saskatchewan when in doubt, but I these games scare me.
- 1:25:16Especially like we should we they the riders should be able to contain Kelly a lot better than than he has been so far.
- 1:25:25But if they've got uh at least one new starter in that secondary and there's any busts in coverage and in communication, it could get ugly.
- 1:25:33But I will still go with Saskatchewan.
- 1:25:36So
- 1:25:36kept him in check until like they got too tired too.
- 1:25:40So I mean
- 1:25:41He likes the long ball, and as long as you take that away from him, you're okay.
- 1:25:45So that's the only thing that scares me.
- 1:25:47But how about you, GT, is it unanimous or are you taking Toronto?
- 1:25:51no, I'm going riders.
- 1:25:53This is Toronto's home game in Saskatchewan, right?
- 1:25:57Yes.
- 1:25:58Yes.
- 1:25:58Toronto's the home team.
- 1:25:59So the riders are wearing their new Prairie Blizzard, whatever that conglomeration is.
- 1:26:07I this is my sidebar.
- 1:26:09If you're gonna make a prairie blizzard uniform, do not have a green helmet.
- 1:26:14There's no green in a blizzard.
- 1:26:17Moving on.
- 1:26:20I'm sorry.
- 1:26:20I don't I feel like they they hired someone's five year old to design that for them.
- 1:26:27Anyway.
- 1:26:28Now
- 1:26:29sure.
- 1:26:30I know, it doesn't matter.
- 1:26:31It doesn't matter how ugly these uniforms are, because Ryder fans will buy them.
- 1:26:36It doesn't matter.
- 1:26:36They don't even have to try.
- 1:26:38the kids will buy them all day 'cause the kids love this all white look.
- 1:26:43it's not all white.
- 1:26:44It's not.
- 1:26:45No, but you know it's close enough for the kids.
- 1:26:49You're not paying attention.
- 1:26:50This is this this is what the CFL is harping on.
- 1:26:53The kids.
- 1:26:54It's all about the kids in all white.
- 1:26:57It's not all white.
- 1:26:58So yeah, yeah.
- 1:27:00Yeah, I know.
- 1:27:01Green helmets, gre green on the sh on the on the sleeves, on the underside of the sleeves, and uh a green outline of numbers that the broadcast crews will all be complaining about
- 1:27:13again too.
- 1:27:14They can't read them and all.
- 1:27:16The I I my question was gonna be will the broadcast crew be all wearing one on whatever night that game is?
- 1:27:22Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:27:23Yeah, they they did that with Ottawa, didn't they?
- 1:27:26Well, three of the of them anyway.
- 1:27:28But moving along.
- 1:27:30Calgary at BC.
- 1:27:31So this is a BC home game and it is in BC, but it's in well, not my hometown, but the larger city near me, Kelowna.
- 1:27:39The Apple Bowl is a small facility that they have added a bunch of seating to get up to twenty thousand.
- 1:27:46It is a fantastic field.
- 1:27:50It is very nice.
- 1:27:51It you'll be right close to the players, so it should be fantastic.
- 1:27:54However
- 1:27:55They're saying the weather is going to be in the low 30s until Thursday, and then it's going to take a dip and start driving down and rain and rain Thursday and rain Friday and
- 1:28:0960% chance of rain on Saturday and not cold, like a high of 20, but damp and very soggy on a natural grass field, which could make a
- 1:28:23Big difference if you're a speed guy, it could make a big difference in in an awful lot of stuff.
- 1:28:29I think that it may t turn to be a ground game.
- 1:28:33And strangely enough, I wouldn't have said this, I don't think any year before this, but the way that the first of the season has started out, and considering what their defense
- 1:28:42is, a ground game might be the best hope for BC.
- 1:28:46So we'll see.
- 1:28:47And then of course the other thing.
- 1:28:51Good luck.
- 1:28:52but but Mills has been great in a in two halves of two games and and then they haven't been able to move him so much in the second half against Winnipeg and in the first half
- 1:29:02against Saskatchewan, it wasn't so good.
- 1:29:04And then they got him up and going in the second half, which I like because he got me lots of points.
- 1:29:08However, it's they you've also got the fact that Butler's a pretty good running game.
- 1:29:12and frankly to me, if they can't throw the ball in the weather, that's a plus for BC because their defensive secondary is not good.
- 1:29:21And and against the run so far, they haven't been giving up a lot of yards.
- 1:29:25They've averaged, I think, seventy yards a game they've given up on the ground, which isn't bad at all.
- 1:29:31So we'll see.
- 1:29:33And then of course the other thing is
- 1:29:34If it is like that and the field really gets torn up, can they repair it for the game against Edmonton a week later?
- 1:29:39But that's neither here there nor there.
- 1:29:41You haven't gone yet first yet, GT.
- 1:29:42You who have you got in this one?
- 1:29:45I uh I'm taking Calgary.
- 1:29:47I just don't I just can't see Edmont or BC having enough offense.
- 1:29:51and their defense is is very suspect.
- 1:29:54So no matter what the weather's like, I think Calgary at this point in time is a better team.
- 1:30:01I just going into this week, I think Calgary's a better team.
- 1:30:04So I'm taking Calgary.
- 1:30:05Okay.
- 1:30:05MJ.
- 1:30:06Alright, so BC has no offense, they have no defense, and their punter is their top special teams tackler.
- 1:30:13The stamps kept up with the riders.
- 1:30:16It went to double overtime.
- 1:30:17That's not nothing.
- 1:30:18I know you come away with no points, but it's not nothing.
- 1:30:20Um I'm gonna take the stamps.
- 1:30:22Yeah.
- 1:30:23One of these teams is gonna be O and three and I d is gonna be the one with no receivers.
- 1:30:28Yes.
- 1:30:28I don't know why something in the back of my head keeps yelling, Take B C, take B C, but I can't.
- 1:30:34It's
- 1:30:34It's just it's not logical.
- 1:30:36At some point, as much as you go with your gut, you've gotta follow some of the logic.
- 1:30:40Yeah, and and BC as undermanned as they are.
- 1:30:43And I don't know I don't know what they're gonna do about that defensive backfield.
- 1:30:48It's just So yeah.
- 1:30:50We're we're all on Calgary.
- 1:30:52All on Saskatchewan, all on Calgary.
- 1:30:54I'm all alone on Edmonton.
- 1:30:57Then the last one Ottawa at Montreal.
- 1:31:01No injury reports.
- 1:31:03We know there's a new quarterback in at in Ottawa.
- 1:31:08There's possibly a second new quarterback coming into Ottawa who, you know, if he gets into the game, he used to play for Montreal, so maybe he knows how I can't I can't even
- 1:31:18pump it up.
- 1:31:19I can't.
- 1:31:20I'm trying to find a way to make this sound like there's a
- 1:31:23this or can I just write down Alouettes and we can just move on for everyone?
- 1:31:28Yeah, alright, alright, I'm writing it down.
- 1:31:31Times three
- 1:31:33Alright.
- 1:31:33Maybe McLeod Bethel Thompson dazzles in return to CFL.
- 1:31:37yes, yep, yep, yep.
- 1:31:39those camps he's been learning some skill keeping those skills sharp at his camps.
- 1:31:43Like I
- 1:31:44is true.
- 1:31:45That is true.
- 1:31:46And and he's knows the Dinwiddie offense.
- 1:31:49he knows the Montreal defense.
- 1:31:52Yeah, so hey.
- 1:31:53Yeah, he has all that set in the
- 1:31:55he gonna be the short yardage guy?
- 1:31:57Like what's happening here?
- 1:31:58I don't know.
- 1:32:00I'm sorry, Red Black fans.
- 1:32:01I'm so sorry.
- 1:32:03Me too.
- 1:32:04it's either McLeod Bethel Thompson or a guy that's you signed on Monday and then all of a sudden on sa on Saturday or whatever, he's gonna be your short yardage in crucial
- 1:32:12situations.
- 1:32:14Right?
- 1:32:16Yeah.
- 1:32:17r Greg Bell or like I don't know what like
- 1:32:20Well well don't forget they apparently they don't go for quarterback sneaks.
- 1:32:24They go for out of the shotgun for all the short yardage.
- 1:32:29Based on what we've seen so far this season.
- 1:32:31Yeah, 'cause they have no one to do short yardage.
- 1:32:34Yeah.
- 1:32:35Duggan fumbled that first one in the rain, and I don't think they've gone under center for short yardage since then.
- 1:32:40So you don't need a short yardage quarterback.
- 1:32:43yes, that the the record is definitely showing that.
- 1:32:46Mm-hmm.
- 1:32:47Definitely.
- 1:32:48we're getting snarky.
- 1:32:50We're getting snarky we are, and it's getting late.
- 1:32:54So we're gonna get out of here.
- 1:32:55MJ, any closing thoughts?
- 1:32:57Any social media?
- 1:32:59You just gonna say goodbye as is as happened with one of us last week?
- 1:33:02No, because
- 1:33:04that?
- 1:33:05I liked it.
- 1:33:06I was reminded uh no, it's okay.
- 1:33:08uh
- 1:33:13by the time you watch this, Team Canada will have played Switzerland.
- 1:33:18I hope that we all are celebrating a win tomorrow for in FIFA, so go Canada.
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- 1:33:43Thank you.
- 1:33:44And thank you for reminding me again.
- 1:33:45I missed that off the rundown too.
- 1:33:47Our World Cup report.
- 1:33:49This week's update, most of us don't care.
- 1:33:52Nope, most of us don't care.
- 1:33:54This this week's update, most of us don't care.
- 1:33:58Lots of people are care, you guys are such deby downers.
- 1:34:01w w w within this little circle here.
- 1:34:04See, you're trying to sneak information in this report, and that's not what it's about.
- 1:34:09He had surgery on his leg!
- 1:34:11Okay, GT
- 1:34:13All right.
- 1:34:13Well, as always you can find me on Blue Sky at GT Barnum.
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