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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A gorgeous twenty five year
- 0:17Speaker 1: old world class cyclists is murdered, found shot dead multiple
- 0:25Speaker 1: times in the gentrified East Austin neighborhood full of beautiful
- 0:31Speaker 1: apartments at homes. When I say world class, I mean
- 0:35Speaker 1: world class. She reportedly the number one female gravel cyclist
- 0:44Speaker 1: in the world. Who we want to kill this beautiful
- 0:49Speaker 1: twenty five year old girl, I me, Nancy Grace. This
- 0:52Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here
- 0:55Speaker 1: at Fox Nation and series M one eleven. Let's kick
- 0:58Speaker 1: it off, take it listen to our friends at seven.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Police are investigating a suspicious death in East Auston. This
- 1:04Speaker 1: happened on Maple Avenue near East seventeenth Street overnight. A
- 1:07Speaker 1: woman called police saying she found her friend inside her
- 1:10Speaker 1: house unresponsive and there was blood near her. When officers arrived,
- 1:14Speaker 1: they found the victim had gunshot wounds. A US provided
- 1:17Speaker 1: life saving measures, but the woman later died from her injuries.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Police do not know how long she was inside the home,
- 1:23Speaker 1: but did call her death suspicious. It is unclear if
- 1:26Speaker 1: a gun was found on scene. Suspicious man. They're staying
- 1:30Speaker 1: pretty calm. Multiple gunshot wounds, I would say, Yeah, that's suspicious.
- 1:36Speaker 1: I can go ahead and answer that for the cops.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Take a listen now to our friend John krn Jack
- 1:42Speaker 1: Fox seven tonight, we're learning the victim of a deadly
- 1:44Speaker 1: shooting in East Austin earlier this week was a well
- 1:47Speaker 1: known cyclist who is supposed to take part in a
- 1:50Speaker 1: mountain bike race in the Hill Country today. Anna Wilson,
- 1:53Speaker 1: better known by her middle name Mariah, was pronounced dead
- 1:55Speaker 1: on Wednesday night at home on Maple Avenue near Eighteenth Street.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Austin Police were called there after a friend of Wilson's
- 2:02Speaker 1: returned home to find the twenty five year old unconscious
- 2:05Speaker 1: with gunshot wounds. APD has not believed the shooting was random.
- 2:09Speaker 1: They're urging anyone with information or video of what happened
- 2:12Speaker 1: to give them a call now. According to the cycling
- 2:15Speaker 1: magazine Vello, Wilson was in Texas ahead of today's gravel
- 2:20Speaker 1: locost Race and Hiko, where she was a favorite to win.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Vellow published a statement from her family saying she was
- 2:26Speaker 1: quote always pushing tirelessly to reach her goals. We knew
- 2:31Speaker 1: she was pursuing that which she loved, the family adding
- 2:34Speaker 1: we know Mariah would want the event to carry on.
- 2:37Speaker 1: You know, when I hear the address Maple Avenue, that
- 2:43Speaker 1: sounds straight out of a storybook. And from what I've learned,
- 2:47Speaker 1: there's a pretty ritzy area there in Austin joining me
- 2:50Speaker 1: an all star panel. But let me first go straight
- 2:52Speaker 1: out to Tony Plahetski, longtime friend, colleague, investigative reporter with
- 2:57Speaker 1: The Austin American Statesman and KVUE Twitter at t Plaatski. Tony,
- 3:04Speaker 1: tell me about East Austin. I got the word gentrified
- 3:09Speaker 1: from you. What do you mean by that? I mean
- 3:12Speaker 1: Maple Avenue. It sounds like it's out of a fable
- 3:17Speaker 1: of book. It sounds so peaceful and idyllic. To have
- 3:21Speaker 1: somebody the number one female gravel cyclist in the world
- 3:24Speaker 1: gunned down dead an apartment doesn't fit with Maple Avenue well,
- 3:28Speaker 1: so over the years, this area of East Austin has
- 3:32Speaker 1: truly been transformed. Wait a minute, Tony Plahatsky, just stop
- 3:37Speaker 1: right there. Let me just call it like it is.
- 3:40Speaker 1: It reminds me of when I moved to Atlanta and
- 3:43Speaker 1: started prosecuting an inner city Atlanta's Fulton District Attorney's office.
- 3:46Speaker 1: I lived in midtown, and at that time, every morning
- 3:50Speaker 1: when I would come out of my apartment, I'd go
- 3:52Speaker 1: to my car and there'd be gin bottles and pantyhose, syringes, rubbers,
- 3:58Speaker 1: empty bottles of liquor, and panty hose because hookers and
- 4:04Speaker 1: addicts would come up and down my alley where I
- 4:06Speaker 1: live to shoot up and conduct business. Let me just
- 4:09Speaker 1: say then it went gentrified. People that wanted to live
- 4:14Speaker 1: close to all the high rise skyscrapers and businesses downtown
- 4:20Speaker 1: wanted to move there. They pump their money into it,
- 4:23Speaker 1: fixed it all up. Everybody had laws and fancy apartments
- 4:26Speaker 1: and fancy cars. I had to move. I couldn't afford
- 4:28Speaker 1: it anymore. Is that what you're saying. That's exactly what
- 4:31Speaker 1: I'm saying. It is a carbon copy of what you
- 4:34Speaker 1: just described. And so this area where Mariah Wilson was
- 4:38Speaker 1: murdered is now home to high rise apartments town home
- 4:43Speaker 1: that are very trendy. A lot of young people in
- 4:46Speaker 1: our city live in this area who have moved to
- 4:49Speaker 1: Austin from all over the country to work in tech,
- 4:52Speaker 1: for example, and so it's really an area dominated increasingly
- 4:57Speaker 1: by that population. I know what you mean. Gin bottles
- 5:01Speaker 1: and pantyhose in the alley one day, then valet parking
- 5:06Speaker 1: and high rises the next day. I get it. What
- 5:09Speaker 1: I'm getting at is there's a very low crime rate
- 5:16Speaker 1: on Maple Avenue. Take a listen to our friends Carissa
- 5:22Speaker 1: lemoucol on Fox seven Surprise Everybody. East Austin resident Michael
- 5:28Speaker 1: Harris is talking about what happened the night of May eleventh.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Shocked to hear that a young prominent cyclist was shot
- 5:36Speaker 1: and killed while staying in the house across the street.
- 5:39Speaker 1: I live here almost two years, and I've never maybe
- 5:43Speaker 1: seen two police cars passed by. This is why this
- 5:47Speaker 1: neighborhood is. Twenty five year old Mariah Wilson was in
- 5:50Speaker 1: Texas to compete in an upcoming race. Coming off a
- 5:54Speaker 1: win at the Belgian Waffle Ride in California. We all
- 5:58Speaker 1: just marveled at, you know, just what a wonderful personality
- 6:02Speaker 1: and a great athlete and an ambassador for our sport.
- 6:05Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, how could this happen?
- 6:10Speaker 1: And everyone's just sort of reeling from it. In addition
- 6:12Speaker 1: to reporter Carissa, you're also hearing from the director of
- 6:16Speaker 1: the Belgian Waffle Ride in California, Michael Marks. Everyone knew
- 6:22Speaker 1: her and loved her. Now, when I hear gravel cycling,
- 6:29Speaker 1: it's hard enough to race in sand to get your
- 6:33Speaker 1: bike to go through. So why are you looking at
- 6:35Speaker 1: me like that, Jackie? Are you imagining trying to ride
- 6:38Speaker 1: a bike through sand much less gravel? Tell me about this.
- 6:43Speaker 1: What is is, Tony Plahatski. It's an endurance sport. I mean,
- 6:48Speaker 1: it is where the yeah, I mean really really a
- 6:52Speaker 1: very competitive sport across the country, really across the world.
- 6:57Speaker 1: And Mariah Wilson, as you mentioned, was a star in
- 7:01Speaker 1: that world. She had already amassed a certain amount of acclaim,
- 7:07Speaker 1: but she was really on her way. Even her competitors,
- 7:11Speaker 1: her most fierce competitors, admired her and her stamina, her
- 7:17Speaker 1: just natural born athleticism, but also Nancy her personality. I mean,
- 7:23Speaker 1: when they talk about her, they actually don't lead with
- 7:26Speaker 1: the fact that she was this amazing athlete. They lead
- 7:30Speaker 1: with talking about her kindness and her spirit and the
- 7:36Speaker 1: happiness that she really had in her life. Time stories
- 7:51Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace just right off the bat too, Jessica Morgan,
- 7:57Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jackson will statement of her. See he's an
- 8:00Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, and he's
- 8:05Speaker 1: the host of a hit new series Body Bags with
- 8:08Speaker 1: Joseph Scott more gun on. iHeart Joe Scott right off
- 8:14Speaker 1: the bat. This woman, I can tell you she's in
- 8:17Speaker 1: a single dwelling apartment, she's unarmed, and she shot multiple times.
- 8:25Speaker 1: I don't like it. We don't have any evidence of
- 8:27Speaker 1: rape or burglary. So why is somebody coming into this
- 8:32Speaker 1: apartment if there was in fact to break in and
- 8:35Speaker 1: gunning her down multiple times? Yeah. And one of the
- 8:38Speaker 1: things that kind of interests me is that when she
- 8:41Speaker 1: was found, she was not found in like the foyer.
- 8:44Speaker 1: She wasn't found at the entrance. She was actually found
- 8:47Speaker 1: in the bathroom, which gives me an indication that unless
- 8:51Speaker 1: there is an obvious sign that someone kicked in the
- 8:53Speaker 1: door or pried open a window, or maybe entered through
- 8:57Speaker 1: a backdoor, even if there was a backdoor, that this
- 9:00Speaker 1: may have been a location of retreat, you know, when
- 9:03Speaker 1: people are being attacked. We why didn't can I just
- 9:06Speaker 1: ask you out of curiosity? Everything you said, I'm down
- 9:09Speaker 1: with that, but why don't you just say she was
- 9:11Speaker 1: in the bathroom? Makes me think she ran ran from
- 9:14Speaker 1: her attacker and hid in the bathroom. Well, because I mean,
- 9:16Speaker 1: does it ever dawn and you just talk like the
- 9:18Speaker 1: rest of us. No, okay, go ahead, it I respect
- 9:23Speaker 1: that ahead. No, it just it just grasped me. You know,
- 9:26Speaker 1: the moment that I read this and heard it. You know,
- 9:29Speaker 1: the fact that she was in the bathroom. You know,
- 9:32Speaker 1: who feels comfortable with entering the bathroom with someone else.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Maybe she's retreated to that point. Maybe she was forced
- 9:38Speaker 1: in there. You know, when you know one of the
- 9:40Speaker 1: things like if you have bad weather, people tell you
- 9:42Speaker 1: to retreat to the bathroom. It's generally the most secure
- 9:45Speaker 1: area in the house if you don't have a basement
- 9:47Speaker 1: or something, and it could be an area where sound
- 9:51Speaker 1: is muffled. For instance, because Nancy, when they found her,
- 9:55Speaker 1: her body is blood soaked and there are and this
- 9:58Speaker 1: is very key, there are multiple spent shell casings laying
- 10:03Speaker 1: about her body in this approximate area as well. Kay,
- 10:06Speaker 1: stop right there, she's in the bathroom. You think it
- 10:09Speaker 1: was a very good chance she ran to the bathroom.
- 10:11Speaker 1: I agree on multiple spent shell casings around her. That
- 10:17Speaker 1: tells me this is not a pro because you would
- 10:20Speaker 1: take the time to pick them up. Shell Nutt with
- 10:23Speaker 1: me also James shell Nutt twenty seven years a Metro
- 10:28Speaker 1: major case. Also swap now lawyer with the shell mut
- 10:32Speaker 1: firm on Twitter at shell Nutt law Firm. Right there,
- 10:38Speaker 1: we know it's someone that's not a pro because the
- 10:41Speaker 1: pro after the killing would pick up the shell casings
- 10:45Speaker 1: because they, just like a bullet, can be matched back
- 10:50Speaker 1: like a fingerprint to the weapon. Because once you get,
- 10:54Speaker 1: if you ever get the murder weapon, when the shell
- 10:59Speaker 1: comes out, there is an ejector mark the shell, although
- 11:05Speaker 1: it may not hurl down, the barrel is ejected, think
- 11:10Speaker 1: of an ejection seat in a plane. The shell is
- 11:14Speaker 1: ejected out and the force of leaving the weapon leaves
- 11:20Speaker 1: a mark on the shell unlike any other marking from
- 11:26Speaker 1: any other gun on a shell. Agree, disagree, shell not.
- 11:33Speaker 1: And what that allows you to do is to go
- 11:36Speaker 1: back and do further investigation to see if a person
- 11:40Speaker 1: that you suspect being involved in a crime had access
- 11:43Speaker 1: to a weapon that would leave that type of strike
- 11:46Speaker 1: mark on the shell. Case guys, take a listen to
- 11:48Speaker 1: our cut fifteen, Our cut fifteen from crime Online. Why
- 11:55Speaker 1: is Mariah also known as Moe in Texas Terrace? Listen.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Annam Wilson was in Texas to race the Gravel Locos.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Competition was a one hundred fifty mile race in a
- 12:07Speaker 1: discipline that blends mountain biking and road cycling. It's a
- 12:11Speaker 1: profession new to Wilson. She had recently quit her job
- 12:14Speaker 1: with the mic company Specialized to focus on cycling full time.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Wilson had won ten off road races this year, including
- 12:22Speaker 1: an eighty kilometer race at the Sea Outter Classic, a
- 12:25Speaker 1: cycling festival in Monterey, California. So she was there strictly
- 12:30Speaker 1: for business. Back to you, Tony Palahatski, where was she staying?
- 12:34Speaker 1: Whose apartment was this? A friend, a longtime friend who
- 12:39Speaker 1: does live in Austin, And that friend had actually picked
- 12:42Speaker 1: her up at the airport and given her a special code,
- 12:47Speaker 1: an access code to her apartment so that she could
- 12:49Speaker 1: go and come as she pleased. And so that's what
- 12:53Speaker 1: Mariah Wilson had done. I mean, there are other things
- 12:57Speaker 1: that she had been doing out on the town while
- 12:59Speaker 1: she had been here, just a couple of days actually,
- 13:02Speaker 1: by the time that she had been been founded, just
- 13:04Speaker 1: a couple of days in Austin. And now she's dead.
- 13:08Speaker 1: With me, Tony Plotski is joining as Tony with the
- 13:11Speaker 1: Austin American Statesman. I'm glad you mentioned that code, that
- 13:17Speaker 1: special access code. Take a listen to hourcut seventeen our
- 13:20Speaker 1: friends at crime online dot com. At first, suspecting a robbery,
- 13:24Speaker 1: police in Cash check the home. The only thing missing
- 13:27Speaker 1: was Anna Wilson's specialized s Works bicycle. As officers checked
- 13:32Speaker 1: the area, Wilson's bicycle was found around sixty eight feet
- 13:35Speaker 1: south of Cash's home, hidden in thick bamboo. The investigation
- 13:40Speaker 1: quickly turned from interrupted robbery to homicide as Cash explained
- 13:44Speaker 1: that she has specialized electronic locks on her door that
- 13:48Speaker 1: unlocked by using a unique code. Cash had provided Wilson
- 13:52Speaker 1: with a new code, with Cash getting a phone notification
- 13:56Speaker 1: when the door is either locked or unlocked. At eight
- 13:59Speaker 1: thirty six pm, Wilson came home. You know that's very
- 14:03Speaker 1: very interesting. Let me go to another special guest joining us.
- 14:07Speaker 1: It is run You Mancarious, CEO Crime Stoppers of Houston,
- 14:13Speaker 1: author of the online world What you think you know
- 14:17Speaker 1: and what you don't you can find Umcarius dot com. Runya,
- 14:23Speaker 1: thank you for being with us so very much and
- 14:26Speaker 1: for all of your hard work with crime Stoppers of
- 14:28Speaker 1: Houston run you. When I was writing Don't Be a Victim,
- 14:35Speaker 1: I researched about how you, of course should always change
- 14:39Speaker 1: your code on everything. You've got, your iPad, your cell phone,
- 14:44Speaker 1: you're recording your home answering machine, if you have one,
- 14:48Speaker 1: your code in and out of your home, your gate coat, everything.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Don't leave it on factory set because you can look
- 14:58Speaker 1: that up online, and predators do look it up online
- 15:01Speaker 1: to find out what the factory setting is. And most
- 15:04Speaker 1: of the world, believe it or not, that has a code.
- 15:06Speaker 1: If any type puts in one two three four or
- 15:09Speaker 1: one one one one or two two two two, it's
- 15:12Speaker 1: very very simple to crack that code. That's when I
- 15:15Speaker 1: learned researching for Don't Be a Victim, that you can
- 15:18Speaker 1: have your code to get into your apartment like this
- 15:21Speaker 1: friend had, and then you can give visitors their own
- 15:25Speaker 1: code so you don't have to x out your code
- 15:29Speaker 1: every time you have a visitor and they leave and
- 15:31Speaker 1: come up with a new one, which I think is
- 15:34Speaker 1: really really smart. When you have visitors, you assign them
- 15:39Speaker 1: a different code that works with your system. That sounds
- 15:43Speaker 1: like what happened here, Ronya, Yeah, and agreed and that
- 15:46Speaker 1: sounds like what Caitlyn Cash did. She assigned Mariah her
- 15:50Speaker 1: own unique code and has since said that she's erased
- 15:53Speaker 1: that code and has changed her code. But she was
- 15:57Speaker 1: doing everything she could to keep herself safe, to keep
- 16:00Speaker 1: her guestsy. But that move, that very smart move. Really
- 16:05Speaker 1: it's helping law enforcement in this case. And it's something
- 16:09Speaker 1: we advise all people to do. Is we embrace technology
- 16:13Speaker 1: and we look to have smart homes and smart technology
- 16:15Speaker 1: in our homes. We want people to utilize this in
- 16:19Speaker 1: a way that keeps them safe. So let's get right
- 16:21Speaker 1: down to it to doctor Sherry Schwartz joining me. A
- 16:23Speaker 1: forensic psychologists specializing and capital mitigation. She's the author of
- 16:30Speaker 1: Criminal Behavior and we're a law in psychology intersect. Doctor
- 16:34Speaker 1: Sherry Schwartz, thank you for joining us from Miami Beach today,
- 16:37Speaker 1: Doctor Sherry. That's when you feel at home. You feel
- 16:40Speaker 1: at home when you go into a secure apartment that
- 16:44Speaker 1: you can only get in with a special code devised
- 16:47Speaker 1: for you. Why am I saying this? Who would have
- 16:51Speaker 1: had that code? Who could have figured out that code?
- 16:54Speaker 1: Or could the purp have somehow gotten in behind her?
- 16:59Speaker 1: Did she locked the door when she went in? I'm
- 17:02Speaker 1: following up on what Joe Scott Morgan said that it
- 17:04Speaker 1: seems as if the victim becaus world class gorgeous twenty
- 17:08Speaker 1: five year old cyclist had retreated to the bathroom, or
- 17:12Speaker 1: maybe she was just in the bathroom, but I know
- 17:14Speaker 1: where defenses were down, Doctor Sherry. She thought she was
- 17:17Speaker 1: saying correct. She walked through the door. I mean, maybe
- 17:21Speaker 1: she did forget to lock it or didn't maybe thought
- 17:24Speaker 1: it was locked. It's a new environment for her. She's
- 17:26Speaker 1: a guest at this location, so maybe she didn't think
- 17:30Speaker 1: about how to lock the door, maybe thought it locked
- 17:33Speaker 1: automatically behind her. But you're right, she probably felt very
- 17:36Speaker 1: safe and secure and headed to use the restroom like
- 17:42Speaker 1: many of us do when we first get home. So
- 17:44Speaker 1: this is nothing unusual. And if I feel safe and
- 17:48Speaker 1: secure in a location, I'm not necessarily going to be
- 17:51Speaker 1: hyper vigilant looking for someone, especially if I'm at home
- 17:55Speaker 1: looking for someone who's going to be coming in behind me.
- 17:58Speaker 1: And it was interesting. Tony Plohevski joining me from the
- 18:00Speaker 1: Austin American Statesman. Tony, it doesn't sound like there was
- 18:04Speaker 1: a struggle. I wonder if the person had secreted themselves
- 18:08Speaker 1: in the home, if they followed in behind her, if
- 18:10Speaker 1: she didn't lock the door, if she didn't use the code.
- 18:13Speaker 1: But I don't hear anything about a struggle ensuing, any
- 18:18Speaker 1: evidence of a struggle. It sounds like Mariah, it was
- 18:21Speaker 1: just shot stone cold. Did That's exactly right, in a
- 18:26Speaker 1: pool of blood on the floor. And so that is
- 18:29Speaker 1: how her friend Caitlin found her, and that is how
- 18:33Speaker 1: the police found her when they arrived. Guys, take a
- 18:37Speaker 1: listen to our cut sixteen, because I'm trying to figure
- 18:41Speaker 1: out what happened. Where was this friend whose apartment she
- 18:46Speaker 1: was using, staying there with the friend who was it?
- 18:49Speaker 1: And what happened in the hours leading up to this
- 18:52Speaker 1: world class cyclist murder. Friend Katelyn Cash picked up Wilson
- 18:57Speaker 1: at the airport. Wilson was to stay at ashes home
- 19:00Speaker 1: until the race. The next day, Cash received a text
- 19:03Speaker 1: from Wilson saying that she was meeting a friend named
- 19:06Speaker 1: Colin to go swimming that afternoon. Around five thirty, as
- 19:10Speaker 1: Cash left to go meet friends for dinner, she noticed
- 19:13Speaker 1: Wilson's large bicycle travel bag outside the front door on
- 19:17Speaker 1: the elevated porch. Cash says she told Wilson to move
- 19:20Speaker 1: the bag inside so it wouldn't be stolen. But when
- 19:23Speaker 1: Cash came home from dinner, the large bicycle travel bag
- 19:26Speaker 1: was at the bottom of the stairs, partially blocking the cardboard.
- 19:30Speaker 1: As she went inside, the front door was unlocked, and
- 19:33Speaker 1: Wilson was lying on the bathroom floor covered in blood. Okay,
- 19:38Speaker 1: Tony Plahatski joining me, Austin American Statesman, I just learned
- 19:41Speaker 1: a lot. So this is a friend, Caitlin Cash, that
- 19:46Speaker 1: picks her up at the airport, offers her apartment up
- 19:49Speaker 1: for her to stay, and she was going to stay
- 19:52Speaker 1: there until the race. The next day. She was meeting
- 19:56Speaker 1: somebody to go swimming. But listen to this part. She
- 20:01Speaker 1: noticed the travel bag outside in the front door, on
- 20:04Speaker 1: the front door on an elevated porch. She told, now,
- 20:08Speaker 1: first of all, to me, that rules out the friend
- 20:10Speaker 1: who would be your first suspect, because she's already had
- 20:13Speaker 1: a chance to kill her when she speak up from
- 20:14Speaker 1: the airport. Also, it's usually not the killer that calls
- 20:18Speaker 1: nine one one. Okay, just let's start with that. But
- 20:22Speaker 1: she comes back, she tells her, move your big bag
- 20:25Speaker 1: with all your gear inside, so nobody steals it. So
- 20:28Speaker 1: that tells me while you're telling me this is a
- 20:30Speaker 1: gentrified neighborhood, there still could be somebody that would come
- 20:33Speaker 1: along in burgle or steal. I learned that. I also
- 20:38Speaker 1: learned that the door was unlocked. The front door was unlocked.
- 20:47Speaker 1: No jimmying the door, no prior marks, no forced entry,
- 20:51Speaker 1: the door was unlocked, which leads me to think the victim,
- 20:55Speaker 1: Mariah Wilson, walked in suspecting nothing and didn't lock the door. Yeah,
- 21:01Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely think that that is possible. The
- 21:03Speaker 1: other possibility that we really haven't talked about here, though, Nancy,
- 21:07Speaker 1: is whether or not Mariah Wilson may have known the person,
- 21:12Speaker 1: maybe saw someone outside that was known to her. Let's
- 21:16Speaker 1: go in and talk. Could that have happened here? Could
- 21:20Speaker 1: someone have come to the door right behind her that
- 21:23Speaker 1: she knew? I think that is an interesting possibility as well.
- 21:27Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, guys. Take a listen. Now we finally
- 21:31Speaker 1: get a tiny break in the case. Our cut eighteen
- 21:35Speaker 1: from Crime Online. Detectives turned to video as they discover
- 21:38Speaker 1: a surveillance camera mounted on the exterior of a home nearby.
- 21:43Speaker 1: The camera face the driveway next to Cash's home. The
- 21:46Speaker 1: footage showed a dark colored suv drive past at eight
- 21:50Speaker 1: thirty seven pm, that's one minute after Wilson entered Cash's home.
- 21:55Speaker 1: The suv slowed down, appearing to come to a stop
- 21:58Speaker 1: directly next to Ash's residence. The suv had a large
- 22:02Speaker 1: bicycle rack mounted on the trailer hitch of the vehicle,
- 22:05Speaker 1: a luggage rack mounted on the roof, and chrome around
- 22:08Speaker 1: the windows. No other vehicles were seen on video surveillance
- 22:12Speaker 1: until emergency vehicles arrived. Okay, what did we ever do?
- 22:17Speaker 1: James shell nutt before video surveillance, ring doorbells, the works.
- 22:24Speaker 1: So tell me the significance, because in my mind it's
- 22:28Speaker 1: going to be tough to explain that this black suv
- 22:32Speaker 1: was on the scene one minute before. Yeah, I mean
- 22:36Speaker 1: it's pretty significant information. I mean, now you've got a
- 22:39Speaker 1: potential suspect, vehicle identified, and if you can tie that
- 22:44Speaker 1: to someone who may have a reason to have hurt mode,
- 22:48Speaker 1: then at that point you've got something. You know you're
- 22:51Speaker 1: going to want to go back and look and say, Okay,
- 22:53Speaker 1: what are the usual suspects? You know, the usual suspects
- 22:55Speaker 1: from motives in murder cases. When you don't know who
- 22:58Speaker 1: did it, you're always going to run the look at money,
- 23:00Speaker 1: sex and revenge, and can you tie that vehicle to
- 23:04Speaker 1: someone who would have had one of those motives? You know,
- 23:06Speaker 1: I'm curious too, Ronya Man Carrie is joining me with
- 23:09Speaker 1: Crime Stoppers of Houston and author. The art of identifying
- 23:15Speaker 1: a vehicle is very, very sophisticated. Every year to two years,
- 23:22Speaker 1: car manufacturers change subtle, subtle portions of the making model.
- 23:30Speaker 1: For instance, they may change the tail light. They may
- 23:34Speaker 1: turn it from two tilllight pains to three, or they
- 23:41Speaker 1: may slant it, or they may change something about the
- 23:45Speaker 1: bumper or the wheels. I mean it changes every couple
- 23:51Speaker 1: of years. They don't keep the same exact model for
- 23:57Speaker 1: a reason. So there are people and car car theft,
- 24:03Speaker 1: stolen cars. Just like there's a homicide squad, there's a
- 24:07Speaker 1: car theft squad, there's a burglary squad, there is a
- 24:10Speaker 1: crimes on children, a crime on women's squad, there's a
- 24:14Speaker 1: white collar crime squad. So these guys and women in
- 24:20Speaker 1: car theft they know all of this. And if they
- 24:24Speaker 1: can get a look at the make and model, they
- 24:28Speaker 1: can tell you the year. If they can even get
- 24:32Speaker 1: a partial tag, they can find out who that belongs
- 24:36Speaker 1: to fairly quickly, would you agree, Runya? Absolutely, I agree,
- 24:42Speaker 1: and then let's just see we kind of brushed over
- 24:44Speaker 1: the fact that a local camera on an exterior of
- 24:47Speaker 1: a neighbors building really cut the video. That's critical because
- 24:52Speaker 1: to your point, cars are changing constantly. People, you have
- 24:55Speaker 1: eyewitnesses to the scene that will be able to say,
- 24:57Speaker 1: I think it was a black vehicle. I think it
- 24:59Speaker 1: was a jeep, but I'm not sure. But that video surveillance,
- 25:02Speaker 1: even if it's just the tail light, gives law enforcements
- 25:05Speaker 1: so much information, including potentially the tag, and that's what
- 25:09Speaker 1: we had in this case, and that was what was
- 25:11Speaker 1: absolutely critical and identifying the suspect moving forward. Take a
- 25:16Speaker 1: listen to our cut eleven our friends at CBS. Although
- 25:21Speaker 1: she wasn't from Austin, those right here or Central Texas
- 25:24Speaker 1: have been shocked at her death. I think it's a
- 25:27Speaker 1: bad tragedy. Michael Harris lives just across the street from
- 25:31Speaker 1: where Annama Riya Wilson lost her life. Those who knew
- 25:34Speaker 1: her best called her mob. According to an Affi David,
- 25:37Speaker 1: Wilson was staying with a friend while preparing for a
- 25:39Speaker 1: bicycling race. She was lasting alive on surveillance video being
- 25:43Speaker 1: dropped off at the home by a local professional cyclist,
- 25:46Speaker 1: Colin Strickland, who never went inside. She's rear required over here.
- 25:50Speaker 1: We never had this happened before, APD says during the investigation,
- 25:54Speaker 1: or Vealan's video showed a black, deep grand Cherokee drove
- 25:57Speaker 1: past the house just one minute after Wilson went inside. Okay,
- 26:01Speaker 1: right there, we're getting somebody else ruled out. We know
- 26:04Speaker 1: that she had gone swimming that day earlier in the
- 26:08Speaker 1: day was somebody named Colins Strickland. But did I hear
- 26:11Speaker 1: this correctly, Tony Plahatski that the surveillance video shows Strickland
- 26:16Speaker 1: bringing her home, never going in and leaving. Correct, That
- 26:21Speaker 1: is exactly right. And Strickland was not driving a black suv.
- 26:25Speaker 1: He was not. He was, as a matter of fact,
- 26:27Speaker 1: on his motorcycle. Oh okay, well that clears that up.
- 26:31Speaker 1: So who is in the black suv? Take a listen
- 26:36Speaker 1: to our cut nine our friends at Fox seven. Armstrong's
- 26:39Speaker 1: car was seen on surveillance video at Wilson's friend's home.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Wilson's friend later came home to find Wilson with multiple
- 26:46Speaker 1: gunshot wounds. We went to the home where the crime
- 26:49Speaker 1: happened and the address listed for Armstrong in Strickland no response.
- 26:55Speaker 1: We tried calling Strickland as well. Sorry, the person we
- 26:59Speaker 1: were trying to reach her a blue sail box that
- 27:00Speaker 1: had not been set up yet. All this leaving the
- 27:03Speaker 1: cycling community in mourning. It's so incredibly painful for such
- 27:08Speaker 1: a tight knit community and people you've raced with, celebrated with,
- 27:13Speaker 1: no like fretting Sony miles with to be faced with
- 27:18Speaker 1: this horrific tragedy, and really my reaction is just pain
- 27:24Speaker 1: and heart breaking. Okay, so we've ruled out Colins Strickland
- 27:28Speaker 1: who dropped off on a motorcycle. Who Tony Plahatski is Armstrong.
- 27:33Speaker 1: Armstrong is Colin Strickland girlfriend of three years and they
- 27:38Speaker 1: lived together here in Austin and actually operate a business
- 27:42Speaker 1: together in the Austin area. Caitlin Marie Armstrong, age thirty four,
- 27:50Speaker 1: is the living girlfriend of Colins Strickland. Collins Strickland is
- 27:55Speaker 1: who Mariah went swimming with. That's exactly right. Mariah and
- 27:59Speaker 1: Colin Strickland and had gone to a well known pool
- 28:04Speaker 1: community pool here in Austin called Deep Betty and went
- 28:09Speaker 1: swimming together and then picked up a couple of burgers
- 28:12Speaker 1: at a nearby popular spot, and then as we know,
- 28:15Speaker 1: he dropped her off back at the apartment on her
- 28:18Speaker 1: motor Fighter. Okay, I'm trying to take in everything that
- 28:21Speaker 1: you just said. Take a listen to our cut ten
- 28:26Speaker 1: Angela Shan Fox seven. The search is on for Caitlin Armstrong.
- 28:30Speaker 1: Officials are asking for the public's help and finding her.
- 28:33Speaker 1: According to the core of paperwork, an anonymous caller had
- 28:36Speaker 1: called police saying Armstrong set she wanted to kill Wilson
- 28:40Speaker 1: after finding out she was involved with her boyfriend. Now.
- 28:43Speaker 1: The affidavit says the knight of the murder, Wilson went
- 28:46Speaker 1: for a swim with Colin Strickland, another cyclist. After that
- 28:49Speaker 1: he dropped her off at her friend's house. Wilson was
- 28:52Speaker 1: visiting from California and was an Austin ahead of a
- 28:55Speaker 1: race in Hiko. The paperwork says Strickland and Caitlin Armstrong
- 28:59Speaker 1: were in a relationship before briefly ending it for a
- 29:02Speaker 1: couple of weeks last year. At that time he was
- 29:04Speaker 1: involved with Wilson. Armstrong's car was seen on surveillance video
- 29:08Speaker 1: at Wilson's friend's home. A race director we spoke with
- 29:11Speaker 1: earlier this week, says this is how he remembers Wilson.
- 29:15Speaker 1: We all just marveled at, you know, just what an
- 29:19Speaker 1: wonderful personality and a great athlete and an ambassador for
- 29:23Speaker 1: our support. And then all of a sudden, how could
- 29:27Speaker 1: this happen? And please say, at this point Armstrong has
- 29:30Speaker 1: not been found. They are asking for the public's help
- 29:32Speaker 1: and finding her. Time stories with Nancy Grace to you,
- 29:54Speaker 1: Tony Platski. I'm trying to make sense of what we
- 29:58Speaker 1: are learning. So I understand Mariah was not in a
- 30:04Speaker 1: love relationship a sex relationship with Colin Strickland. Explain this
- 30:11Speaker 1: love triangle. So Mariah Uh and Colin Strickland did have
- 30:17Speaker 1: a relationship months ago while he was apparently broken up
- 30:23Speaker 1: with Kristin Armstrong. That is what he tells the police
- 30:26Speaker 1: that they that they had. Can you slow down and
- 30:29Speaker 1: tell me the dates and everything else, you know? Yeah,
- 30:31Speaker 1: it was last fall in October when Colin reports. So
- 30:36Speaker 1: must a year ago when when Colin reports that he
- 30:39Speaker 1: and Armstrong were broken up and that he did have
- 30:45Speaker 1: a brief relationship with Mariah Wilson. However, since that time,
- 30:51Speaker 1: according to him, Uh and what he told police is
- 30:56Speaker 1: that they had been friends. Can you say relationship? Are
- 30:59Speaker 1: you talking about a love relationship a sex relationship? It wasn't,
- 31:04Speaker 1: based on my understanding, a romantic relationship. I mean that
- 31:08Speaker 1: that is the way that it has been described. Okay,
- 31:11Speaker 1: so let me understand this. About a year ago, when
- 31:14Speaker 1: Colin Strickland was broken up with Caitlin Armstrong, he had
- 31:20Speaker 1: a love relationship with Mariah Wilson, the cycling star. Right,
- 31:26Speaker 1: that's right, and then they called it off and he
- 31:29Speaker 1: got bat with Caitlin Armstrong. Is that right? That is correct? Okay,
- 31:35Speaker 1: go from there. And so over time, over the past
- 31:38Speaker 1: several months, Mariah and Strickland did maintain contact and apparently
- 31:46Speaker 1: their relationship transitioned more into platonic, more into friendship. But
- 31:53Speaker 1: at the same time, Kitlyn Armstrong discovered this relationship and
- 32:01Speaker 1: was able to learn more both from Holla Strickland himself
- 32:07Speaker 1: and also apparently looking at a cell phone, learned more
- 32:13Speaker 1: about his ongoing friendship with Mariah Wilson and did not
- 32:18Speaker 1: like it. And so that is what he told police
- 32:23Speaker 1: as part of a very lengthy interview. Okay, wait, even
- 32:26Speaker 1: though they were platonic, she still didn't like it. That's exactly.
- 32:30Speaker 1: That exact is the understanding. Yeah, oh my goodness. You
- 32:35Speaker 1: know the first thing I would do, runya man, carry us,
- 32:40Speaker 1: joining us from crime staffers Houston. I would get all
- 32:45Speaker 1: Caitlin Armstrong, age thirty four, cell phone records and if
- 32:49Speaker 1: she's got a landline, and I would find out how
- 32:52Speaker 1: many times she had been checking her boyfriend's messages and
- 32:58Speaker 1: cell phone messages. I would want to find out how
- 33:02Speaker 1: she hacked into his email. Everything I could prove digitally
- 33:08Speaker 1: to see how long she had been doing a slow
- 33:11Speaker 1: burn over her boyfriend, Colin Strickland's relationship now platonic with
- 33:17Speaker 1: Maria the Cyclist Star. Well, it looks like that's what
- 33:20Speaker 1: they've been doing. And they've uncovered that Colin and Maria
- 33:24Speaker 1: had been exchanging texts and phone calls, although he changed
- 33:28Speaker 1: Maria's name on his phone to not infuriate his girlfriend,
- 33:34Speaker 1: but she discovered it and she started calling Mariah incessantly.
- 33:38Speaker 1: Mariah blocked the number, started following her on Instagram and
- 33:44Speaker 1: following her on what we understand to be Strava, a
- 33:47Speaker 1: fitness app, to determine her whereabouts so we can see
- 33:51Speaker 1: Caitlin's actions. That's good, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
- 33:55Speaker 1: what did you say about an app? It's called Strava
- 33:58Speaker 1: or Strava, and it basedically allows a cyclist to check
- 34:01Speaker 1: in and show his or her followers, you know, the
- 34:05Speaker 1: point of departure for a bike ride, and then the
- 34:08Speaker 1: point of return. And apparently, you know, Wilson had had
- 34:13Speaker 1: pinged her location to the home of Caitlin Cash as
- 34:17Speaker 1: a as a start of the bike ride and as
- 34:20Speaker 1: a point of where she returned. And that's where we
- 34:22Speaker 1: believe our un learned of Wilson's whereabouts, so she would
- 34:28Speaker 1: like chart her her bike courses online so her followers
- 34:33Speaker 1: can note where she was riding. And it's very common,
- 34:37Speaker 1: you know, given technology today, a lot of us live
- 34:40Speaker 1: our daily lives, sharing our exact whereabouts in real time
- 34:45Speaker 1: with this community and network of people who follow us.
- 34:48Speaker 1: That's a big thing that I talk about in terms
- 34:50Speaker 1: of how dangerous that that really is and really can
- 34:53Speaker 1: be so dangerous, so dangerous, this is reminding me. Anybody
- 34:58Speaker 1: on the panel jump in. Remember this is no tea
- 35:01Speaker 1: party at High Grove. Of two cases number one, Diane Zamora.
- 35:07Speaker 1: This was commonly called the Cadet murders. She was dating
- 35:11Speaker 1: a guy David Graham. One catch this was in the
- 35:15Speaker 1: Naval Academy, now hard that is to get into the
- 35:17Speaker 1: other one was in West Point, as I recall, and
- 35:21Speaker 1: the guy David Graham, they're all like eighteen nineteen twenty
- 35:25Speaker 1: had a one time fleeing with a sixteen year old
- 35:29Speaker 1: girl he met like how a Wendy's drive through Adrian Jones,
- 35:33Speaker 1: And when Zamora found out, she demanded revenge. Here you
- 35:38Speaker 1: go Naval Academy, West Point. She demanded revenge. So the
- 35:44Speaker 1: two of them go and murder the sixteen year old
- 35:48Speaker 1: little girl. I mean brutal over what a one ninth
- 35:53Speaker 1: stand that lasted five minutes, seriously and completely completely uncontrolled impulses.
- 36:05Speaker 1: Then it reminds me of another case if anybody remembers it,
- 36:08Speaker 1: in the case of this gorgeous pediatrician out of Texas.
- 36:12Speaker 1: You'll remember this Tony Polhetsky Kendra Hatcher, and she got
- 36:17Speaker 1: engaged or was getting engaged to doctor McDreamy. She ended
- 36:22Speaker 1: up getting gunned down in the parking lot, the parking
- 36:25Speaker 1: garage of her luck's high rise because his ex girlfriend
- 36:30Speaker 1: had been following her on an app and wanted revenge
- 36:34Speaker 1: because her boyfriend dumped her and had her gunned down
- 36:38Speaker 1: dead over a love triangle. Do you remember Kendra Hatcher,
- 36:44Speaker 1: the pediatric dentist. That's what she was, being gunned down
- 36:49Speaker 1: and outside of her high rise you got the same
- 36:53Speaker 1: thing playing out here, Tony Polhatsky. A ridiculous love triangle. Absolutely,
- 36:59Speaker 1: and that is one of the things that so many
- 37:02Speaker 1: people have commented upon. I mean, when you look at Armstrong,
- 37:07Speaker 1: it is her public image and even her image among
- 37:12Speaker 1: people who knew her stands in stark contrast to what
- 37:17Speaker 1: she is now accused of doing. She is described as successful,
- 37:23Speaker 1: accomplished in her own right in the world of business.
- 37:26Speaker 1: She was a yoga instructor for several years in Bali,
- 37:30Speaker 1: and so people you mean Caitlin Armstrong, and so people
- 37:34Speaker 1: are so she was a yogee she was, and balis
- 37:39Speaker 1: no less, and so people are trying to reconcile that
- 37:44Speaker 1: image of her based on what police are saying she did.
- 37:47Speaker 1: I'm looking at the video and there's no doubt about it.
- 37:51Speaker 1: You see Armstrong's black suv going back and forth. It's
- 37:56Speaker 1: it's it's a jeep Cherokee driving around outside the home.
- 38:01Speaker 1: She's just circling it. Like a vulture. The cars again
- 38:06Speaker 1: spotted that night after I guess they love object. Collins
- 38:11Speaker 1: Strickland drops off the victim, twenty five year old Marine
- 38:16Speaker 1: Wilson and his yogi girlfriend just couldn't stand it. Yoga
- 38:22Speaker 1: teacher Caitlin Armstrong could not stand it, and now she
- 38:26Speaker 1: is on the run. Tony Platsky, there's no question, I
- 38:29Speaker 1: guarantee you she's made from Mexico. I mean, I think
- 38:32Speaker 1: that is a true open question. And what law enforcement
- 38:35Speaker 1: officials tell me is that they really don't have a
- 38:39Speaker 1: good sense of where she is. I mean, for starters,
- 38:41Speaker 1: they're looking Nancy right now or the black Cheep Cheep Cherokee,
- 38:46Speaker 1: and they have not been able to find it anywhere
- 38:48Speaker 1: in the city of Austin or beyond, so obviously they
- 38:52Speaker 1: want to start there and whether or not it may
- 38:56Speaker 1: lead them to Caitlin Armstrong ultimately. But priority one, of
- 39:00Speaker 1: course is finding her. But anything they can do to
- 39:04Speaker 1: help that in the course of that, including finding the jeeps,
- 39:07Speaker 1: would be big. Can't check the border crossing. What's the
- 39:12Speaker 1: closest border crossing, Tony Blahatskin to Mexico from there, and
- 39:15Speaker 1: it's about three hours south of here. And she's gone. Yeah,
- 39:19Speaker 1: she probably drove all night long and I would be
- 39:23Speaker 1: watching the love object Colin Strickland's cell phone. It's gonna
- 39:30Speaker 1: be very hard for me to believe that she just
- 39:32Speaker 1: cuts it off cold turkey after she killed for him.
- 39:34Speaker 1: Doctor Sherry Schwartz helped me a love triangle. I mean,
- 39:37Speaker 1: if you got a guy is cheating on you who
- 39:40Speaker 1: wants him anyway, I would send him straight to her
- 39:43Speaker 1: house CD cash on delivery and don't send him back
- 39:47Speaker 1: no returns. Absolutely, I agree one hundred percent, Nancy. But
- 39:53Speaker 1: clearly it seems that Caitlin suffers from this obsessive, pathological,
- 39:59Speaker 1: toxic jealousy that led to violence, possibly against Mariah. Mm.
- 40:06Speaker 1: Now I'm wondering where she did go across to Mexico
- 40:11Speaker 1: and she got away and nobody can find this SUV
- 40:14Speaker 1: who's helping her. Is one of the things that I'm wondering,
- 40:17Speaker 1: Jess Goot Morgan, how are they processing the scene? How
- 40:20Speaker 1: are we going to prove that it is in fact
- 40:22Speaker 1: the yoga loving girlfriend Caitlin Armstrong. Well, I'm glad you
- 40:26Speaker 1: ask that question because at Austin PD actually served a warrant.
- 40:31Speaker 1: Let's go back to where she was domiciled with Strickland.
- 40:34Speaker 1: And this is what they found out. They actually recovered
- 40:38Speaker 1: two pistols at that scene, one in which was a
- 40:42Speaker 1: six hour nine millimeter. Guests who had access to it
- 40:46Speaker 1: only armstrong. That's it. And guess what else they did.
- 40:49Speaker 1: They took this weapon and they test fired it. And
- 40:52Speaker 1: when they test fired it, it came back. There's a
- 40:54Speaker 1: high probability that those ejected shells that they found at
- 40:57Speaker 1: the scene match this particular weapon. What kind of strikes
- 41:01Speaker 1: me is baffling to me is that they actually this
- 41:04Speaker 1: individual left this weapon at the scene where it could
- 41:08Speaker 1: be recovered. I don't know what that actually says about
- 41:11Speaker 1: this individual, but it tells me she didn't make any
- 41:14Speaker 1: effort to try to take it and throw it in
- 41:16Speaker 1: a river. Tells me she was highly emotional at the
- 41:19Speaker 1: time and not thinking correctly. That is not insanity under
- 41:24Speaker 1: the law. The stoking, the leaving, the hiding out, the
- 41:29Speaker 1: going on the run shows she knew what she did
- 41:32Speaker 1: was wrong and for what. And I can tell you
- 41:34Speaker 1: another thing, SA nobody asked if you're a boyfriend or
- 41:38Speaker 1: a husband is hiding somebody's name and their cell phone out,
- 41:44Speaker 1: there's a reason he's hiding it. There is a reason
- 41:47Speaker 1: I've checked my husband's cell phone so many times my
- 41:49Speaker 1: eyes bled. It was so boring. I quit. Also, he lied,
- 41:56Speaker 1: didn't he lie? Tony Platski about where he was going
- 41:58Speaker 1: that day? He's going to a big municipal pool. Anybody
- 42:01Speaker 1: can see them the deep Eddy. It's not like a
- 42:05Speaker 1: watering hole. It's a big municipal pool. Anybody could see
- 42:08Speaker 1: him there. Why did he have to lie about it, Tony?
- 42:10Speaker 1: Or did he? Well? He lied? According to his text
- 42:14Speaker 1: messages to Armstrong, he lied to her about where he was.
- 42:18Speaker 1: He described his battery dying, that he had he had
- 42:22Speaker 1: delivered flowers for someone and then its boone battery died.
- 42:25Speaker 1: I just hate it when that happens. All those batteries
- 42:28Speaker 1: are always going dead. Well, I've got the application for
- 42:31Speaker 1: a restaurant right here. It's very very detailed, decommedit a
- 42:34Speaker 1: clime online dot com. She's on the run. You may run,
- 42:39Speaker 1: but you can't hire girl. We wait as justice unfolds
- 42:45Speaker 1: Nancy Gray's crimes story, signing off goodbye friend,