Latest / Johnny's World / Episode 71-Michael Henig and Auburn
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- 0:22SPEAKER_02: All right, welcome back to a brand new edition of the Johnny's World Podcast.
- 0:25SPEAKER_02: It's uh Johnny here, my co-host BW.
- 0:28SPEAKER_02: What's going on today, BW?
- 0:30SPEAKER_00: Man, doing good, doing good.
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: It's uh getting close to Halloween, getting close to my birthday.
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: We're gonna win, gonna win a game this weekend, hopefully.
- 0:39SPEAKER_02: So ready.
- 0:40SPEAKER_02: Yes, indeed.
- 0:41SPEAKER_02: You know, we got the going going Auburn this weekend.
- 0:45SPEAKER_02: So uh see old Hugh Freeze and uh hopefully we can we can we can get a win out of that one and and uh and move on.
- 0:52SPEAKER_02: But yeah, Halloween's coming up and uh falls here, full swing, football season's you know, we wait all year.
- 0:59SPEAKER_02: We do this podcast beginning of the season, make our predictions, and everything flies by, man.
- 1:04SPEAKER_02: You know, you wait all summer to get football season, and dang, we're already halfway through.
- 1:08SPEAKER_02: Um goes by so fast.
- 1:10SPEAKER_02: But uh a lot of fun.
- 1:12SPEAKER_02: Um, a lot of fun.
- 1:13SPEAKER_02: I guess we need a recap on uh our buddy old Sam Pittman.
- 1:17SPEAKER_02: Got it, got we, we we put it to him.
- 1:19SPEAKER_02: No more cold beers, no jukebox turning up.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: No, rough tiles.
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: They didn't uh they didn't unplug the jukebox yet, but they I guess they took some of the CDs out.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: They gave they got rid of his offensive coordinator.
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, man, that that was the ugliest game I've ever seen.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: I was I was sitting there watching that at the end of that game, and just it's never ended.
- 1:42SPEAKER_02: I've never seen a game that end on a uh the the play of the game be a penalty on on our favor, favorable fiddlity.
- 1:50SPEAKER_02: You know, that's just insane how that happened like that.
- 1:53SPEAKER_02: Uh uh, you know, Arkansas scores, and then we have the false starts.
- 1:57SPEAKER_02: The guy that did the false start.
- 1:58SPEAKER_02: I can only imagine if Jack Crystal was calling this game, but you what he would have said about that being the play of the game.
- 2:03SPEAKER_02: You know, he always said funny stuff like my drive back to Tupelo and we played bad.
- 2:08SPEAKER_02: I can only imagine what he would say to being the play of the game, a false start on the offense, saved the day for Mississippi State.
- 2:13SPEAKER_02: You know, just crazy how that happened.
- 2:16SPEAKER_02: But uh, and then and then lo and behold, you know, we get down there and we think we're gonna seal the deal with the field goal at the end.
- 2:22SPEAKER_02: And it looked like, you know, remember on Madden when you play Madden and then you would miss the field goal like way to the left and way to the right.
- 2:29SPEAKER_02: It looked like they did that.
- 2:30SPEAKER_02: It's like is this this is this is just typical for what the way this game is going, just absolutely ugly, ugly, ugly game.
- 2:38SPEAKER_02: And uh it's kind of embarrassing.
- 2:40SPEAKER_02: It was on ESPN, so the whole whole world saw it.
- 2:42SPEAKER_02: But uh, hey, yeah, ugly, ugly games are all right as long as you win, you know.
- 2:47SPEAKER_02: There's no such thing as ugly win, win's a win, but uh yeah, that was a bad played ball game.
- 2:53SPEAKER_02: But hey, we've seen worse being state fans at three to two game against Auburn that you know that's the tops of cake, but this was this was up there with it, so uh which is pretty bad for Arkansas because KJ Jefferson man, he's a stud, he's a really good quarterback.
- 3:09SPEAKER_02: He is you know, me and you both made our predictions last week.
- 3:14SPEAKER_02: We thought we'd score, you know, 31-24.
- 3:16SPEAKER_02: I think kicked or something like that.
- 3:19SPEAKER_02: And uh man, our defense was awesome.
- 3:22SPEAKER_02: They they they stopped uh Jefferson.
- 3:24SPEAKER_02: I did not think that was gonna happen with the way we're going with all these quarterbacks having this freaking star games against us with Jaden Daniels, Rattler, all of all the players we play.
- 3:34SPEAKER_02: And Jefferson, we stopped him.
- 3:36SPEAKER_02: So uh that was promising.
- 3:38SPEAKER_02: That was promising.
- 3:39SPEAKER_02: That was good to see.
- 3:40SPEAKER_02: I don't know if Arnett was uh calling the defensive plays.
- 3:43SPEAKER_02: I've read this week that he might have had a hand in that, and that might that might have been the difference, but uh something was different.
- 3:49SPEAKER_02: And he said that there wasn't anything different, but yeah, something was different.
- 3:52SPEAKER_02: We we play a lot different on on defense and offense.
- 3:55SPEAKER_02: Man, I'll have to tell you Woody Marks put his body on the line for that game.
- 3:59SPEAKER_02: Man, yeah, you turn around, he's hurt, he was getting back in the game, getting hurt, get back in the game.
- 4:04SPEAKER_02: I was like, dang, man, putting it out there, and so he's a warrior, uh bulldog through and through, and uh um can't say enough good things about him.
- 4:15SPEAKER_02: And and then Mike Wright did what he needed to do to win.
- 4:18SPEAKER_02: You know, he had that one play that uh long run for a touchdown that got called back or blocking.
- 4:24SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know.
- 4:26SPEAKER_02: I I if you had Will's arm and Mike Wright's legs on the same person, you'd you'd be thousand or something like just yeah, it's unfortunate it's uh one so good pass, one so good running.
- 4:39SPEAKER_02: But um, but hey, we did what we needed to do, got out of there with a win.
- 4:43SPEAKER_02: We're up to four wins.
- 4:45SPEAKER_02: We already know we're gonna beat Southern Miss.
- 4:46SPEAKER_02: That's five wins.
- 4:47SPEAKER_02: So you just got to get one more to get to that ball game.
- 4:49SPEAKER_02: I feel like if you can beat that bowl game, then uh everybody be off our nets back because we're continuing the bowl streak and then building on to that.
- 4:58SPEAKER_02: So um this is a great opportunity this weekend against Auburn.
- 5:02SPEAKER_02: Auburn's not a very good football team.
- 5:04SPEAKER_02: Their offense looks terrible.
- 5:06SPEAKER_02: Um, our offense looks terrible.
- 5:07SPEAKER_02: So, like I said, it could be another low-scoring game, but I feel like if there's any team we can be, it's gonna be Auburn, but it's tough because it's on the road, few freeze, we haven't had a success.
- 5:19SPEAKER_02: But then we got Kentucky coming into town, and Kentucky has not done, we can't we can't win ever in Kentucky recent years, but Kentucky can't win in Starbucks, so that's a plus on us.
- 5:30SPEAKER_02: Uh, I feel like we can get one of these two.
- 5:32SPEAKER_02: Uh, and if we get one or two, we're gonna get six wins.
- 5:35SPEAKER_02: So um next two weeks we'll be able to tell whether we're gonna go to bowl game, I think.
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll have to rewind it.
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: I can't remember what my original thought prediction was on this Auburn game, but the I I've been feeling pretty good about it, but a lot of other people have been feeling good about it and really talking talking negatively about off you know their offense and they don't have a passing game and and all that kind of stuff.
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: And I just when I hear that and it involves Mississippi State, it starts to worry me.
- 6:03SPEAKER_00: So, you know, if if somebody's got something that's bad, they're gonna play as good as they can against Mississippi State.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: So I hope that's not always good.
- 6:12SPEAKER_02: That gut feeling I have is not not there, but uh Auburn's, I think, is ranked 14th in the SEC in passing yards, and it's not even close from the 13th.
- 6:21SPEAKER_02: Uh, so they're they're way dead last in passing yards.
- 6:24SPEAKER_02: But like you just said, that's how it always is, man.
- 6:28SPEAKER_02: You always pick, uh, you always think something's gonna happen, like, oh, they're terrible.
- 6:31SPEAKER_02: State's gonna win this game.
- 6:33SPEAKER_02: And then lo and behold, the quarterback will come out and pass for the most passing yards he's ever done, and and and beat us, you just never can't tell.
- 6:40SPEAKER_02: Um, but that's that's just the way it is.
- 6:43SPEAKER_02: But like I've always said before, man, it's gotta be, I kind of like it that like that because man, if you're a Bama fan, think about that.
- 6:48SPEAKER_02: You win every game.
- 6:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're gonna win a game.
- 6:50SPEAKER_02: We're gonna win a game.
- 6:51SPEAKER_02: That's gotta get old.
- 6:52SPEAKER_02: I don't care what they say, but um, but yeah, it's it's gonna be uh it's gonna be interesting.
- 6:58SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty excited.
- 6:59SPEAKER_02: I'm going to the game.
- 6:59SPEAKER_02: I haven't been I've only been to Auburn twice in my life, and uh uh I didn't get to experience.
- 7:05SPEAKER_02: I just went uh went with Coach Cheryl and the team, so I got to travel with the team.
- 7:09SPEAKER_02: So we didn't, we just literally went to the hotel in Columbus, Georgia, spent the night and then went to the game and then flew back.
- 7:14SPEAKER_02: So I didn't get to uh experience the town or anything.
- 7:17SPEAKER_02: So I'm hoping I'll have a chance to walk around and see the campus a little bit and everything.
- 7:21SPEAKER_02: But yeah, the game I went to uh was the 03 game when um Cadillac Williams scored, I believe, six touchdowns.
- 7:30SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, unbelievable.
- 7:32SPEAKER_02: You know, Cadillac was the interim coach last year.
- 7:34SPEAKER_02: I was really hoping he got the job.
- 7:35SPEAKER_02: He's an awesome guy, and man, he freaking rolled all over us.
- 7:40SPEAKER_02: That was in 2003, and uh I think that was the whole still holds the record for most scores in a game by Auburn player, but six uh touchdowns in one game, and I think five of them were in the first half.
- 7:52SPEAKER_02: It was it was a beating.
- 7:53SPEAKER_02: It was a beating.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: I vaguely remember that.
- 7:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't uh I don't foresee that happening at all this week, but um stranger things happen, so you never know.
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 8:05SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, I know you got to get going to pumpkin Palooza, so let me uh get everybody updated on the pick'em real quick, and then we'll make our our uh our selections for the week and and roll on and introduce because we've got a good guest coming up uh after this, after this forget about that.
- 8:23SPEAKER_02: Talk about uh uh Bulldog uh warrior, you know, the what I was talking about earlier about Woody Marks playing through injuries and stuff.
- 8:29SPEAKER_02: Our our guest that we got coming up uh is Define Bulldog Warrior.
- 8:33SPEAKER_02: He he had a bunch of injuries through his career, but he kept fighting and and fighting and fighting.
- 8:37SPEAKER_02: And uh he's a Bulldog through and through.
- 8:39SPEAKER_02: So uh happy to get him on, and he's got a good connection with uh with Auburn.
- 8:44SPEAKER_02: That's why we wanted him on and and they beat Auburn.
- 8:46SPEAKER_02: So uh hopefully that'll bring us luck, you know.
- 8:49SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, Johnny, uh, so I'm I'm moved back up to second place.
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm nipping at the feet of B and D's dirty dogs.
- 8:57SPEAKER_00: He's still in first, he's he's winning by a point right now, and we've got this week we'll determine whether somebody jumps up, or if it's B D dirty dogs, or if I'm enjoying another cup of Johnnypacker.net coffee for the whole rest of the month again.
- 9:15SPEAKER_02: This is the last Saturday, so this is the decision Saturday.
- 9:19SPEAKER_02: Who's deciding Saturday?
- 9:20SPEAKER_02: Who's gonna who's gonna win that coffee for the month?
- 9:22SPEAKER_02: So uh that's right.
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 9:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 9:24SPEAKER_00: There's a couple games, you know, like our game, that are uh a little iffy, kind of hard to make make some picks on.
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: So we'll see.
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: We will see.
- 9:33SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty down there uh this year for some reason.
- 9:36SPEAKER_02: Um it was always me and you at the top last year, but I've I've whiffed on some games on here this year.
- 9:40SPEAKER_02: But I figured the only way that I can get back in the run is is go against what everybody's doing.
- 9:44SPEAKER_02: So I got to pick games, you know, pick the upsets and hopefully upsets to jump up the ladder.
- 9:50SPEAKER_02: Because if I just keep picking the winners, projected winners, I'm not going anywhere.
- 9:53SPEAKER_02: So I had to go out on the limb and pick some games this week that not everybody's gonna pick.
- 9:57SPEAKER_02: So hopefully hopefully it's an upsets can happen.
- 9:59SPEAKER_02: But uh, but yeah, y'all are sitting up at the top and somebody's gonna get some coffee and and then we move on to uh it's November, the last month of the season, hard to believe.
- 10:08SPEAKER_02: Uh like we just started.
- 10:10SPEAKER_02: But uh, but yeah, as we say every week, the Packer, I mean the Packer, the coffee is Johnny Packer Coffee on Johnnypacker.net.
- 10:18SPEAKER_02: And uh you don't have to win, you know, you the pick'em thing is great because like you said, you get a free bag, but uh but we don't want you to get a free bag, we want you to spend some money because if you spend money to buy um some Johnny Packer coffee, it goes towards a great cost.
- 10:32SPEAKER_02: The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation helps my people with me like me with their fight with CF.
- 10:38SPEAKER_02: And uh and it's simple, man.
- 10:40SPEAKER_02: You just get on johnnypacker.net, reflect which one you want, ships it to your house, and it's easier said.
- 10:46SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's just it's just an easy deal, and it's a win-win deal.
- 10:49SPEAKER_02: Every week I say this win-win, and you're not having to spend a lot of money like you would on a pair of sunglasses.
- 10:54SPEAKER_02: So um just get log on there, get you some, and uh, you're helping the helping a good cause.
- 11:00SPEAKER_02: And those who are in the league that want to want to uh want a bag of coffee, make your picks, finish on top, and BW send it to you.
- 11:08SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 11:10SPEAKER_02: Simple as that.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: Well, Johnny, um, why don't you go ahead and and make the picks?
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like I feel like our luck is better when you pick first for some reason.
- 11:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we uh we we've been picking, you know, last year and this year.
- 11:26SPEAKER_02: The games are always close.
- 11:28SPEAKER_02: I'm always texting you during the game, like, look at this, our score's about to be exactly what we picked last year.
- 11:33SPEAKER_02: I mean, last week, Arkansas, nowhere even close.
- 11:36SPEAKER_02: Johnny's locks or Johnny's knots.
- 11:38SPEAKER_02: I quit doing that.
- 11:39SPEAKER_02: You know, it was just uh a crapshoot, pretty much what it is.
- 11:42SPEAKER_02: I did win a couple win some money off uh some of the games I picked, but majority of them were just like just I'm not even doing them.
- 11:50SPEAKER_02: If y'all want me to do them, I'll do them, but it's not worth it.
- 11:52SPEAKER_02: I don't think.
- 11:53SPEAKER_02: But like this week, for instance, I have no idea.
- 11:55SPEAKER_02: No idea.
- 11:56SPEAKER_02: I didn't have a clue about last week either.
- 11:58SPEAKER_02: Um, at the beginning of the season started, I picked Auburn and Hugh Freeze to win.
- 12:02SPEAKER_02: I remember on on our podcast on that when I did pick Auburn win because I stayed as can't for some reason had trouble beating Hugh Freeze, but that was Dan Mullins, I don't know.
- 12:11SPEAKER_02: Uh Arnett will do, but um, we've always had trouble winning on the road, but we proved that wrong last week.
- 12:17SPEAKER_02: We've had trouble winning at Auburn.
- 12:19SPEAKER_02: Um, but two years ago we had that massive comeback with Will Rogers and Mike Leach did.
- 12:25SPEAKER_02: I remember we were just getting smoked, and we came back and and the best comeback of Mike Leach's career at Mississippi State, and we won at Auburn.
- 12:32SPEAKER_02: So we can win at Auburn.
- 12:33SPEAKER_02: There's a there's a shot we can do it.
- 12:35SPEAKER_02: And uh we've done it in the past, and um I feel like I'm gonna change my pick, BW.
- 12:41SPEAKER_02: I picked uh Auburn to uh to beat us preseason, but I'm gonna change my pick.
- 12:47SPEAKER_02: And I hope it doesn't bite me, but I am gonna pick the Bulldogs this week.
- 12:51SPEAKER_02: Um, I think it's gonna be ugly, ugly, ugly.
- 12:54SPEAKER_02: I think that the pitch, I think the quarterback for Auburn is gonna throw the ball.
- 12:59SPEAKER_02: It's gonna shock us because I think we're gonna expect for him to run.
- 13:03SPEAKER_02: And I think he's gonna throw the ball, and some of our quarterbacks are gonna get beat, and I can see a touchdown or two, and everyone's shocked.
- 13:09SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, I did that.
- 13:10SPEAKER_02: But I feel like we uh if our defense plays like they did against Arkansas and we can stop them from doing that and stop at the run and we can muster some type of offense, that's gonna be the the issue, uh, especially if Will's not playing.
- 13:24SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm not confident in Mike Wright throwing the ball.
- 13:27SPEAKER_02: And if they stop the run, we're in trouble.
- 13:29SPEAKER_02: But I feel like if if we can uh 40 marks playing and does like he did, and and right can run, then I I feel like we can squeak out a win.
- 13:39SPEAKER_02: So with that being said, I say the score.
- 13:43SPEAKER_02: I I'm gonna say Mississippi State.
- 13:44SPEAKER_02: I don't can't believe I'm doing this, but I'm gonna say Mississippi State 13, Auburn seven.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 13:53SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 13:54SPEAKER_00: Well, Johnny, you know, I was I was predicting another ugly game myself, and I'm thinking about it, I'm pretty sure that I picked us to lose this game at the beginning of the season as well.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: But I'm going to turn it around also.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: I've I've got some faith in the Bulldogs.
- 14:11SPEAKER_00: I feel like we can do it, and I think it is still gonna be ugly.
- 14:16SPEAKER_00: And and I was thinking along the same lines as you, but I feel like there will be a few more points scored just because it can't be that ugly two weeks in a row.
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: So I'm thinking 21 to 14 is gonna be your final score.
- 14:31SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be close.
- 14:32SPEAKER_00: The fourth quarter is gonna be horrible, it's gonna be a back and forth.
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: Nobody's gonna want to win it.
- 14:39SPEAKER_00: You know, it's gonna be a lot of three and outs, and and it's gonna take uh two hours to play the fourth quarter, but ultimately the dogs come out on top 21-14.
- 14:49SPEAKER_02: 21-14.
- 14:50SPEAKER_02: You think we'll be uh punting from uh the other end of the field like last week?
- 14:53SPEAKER_02: That was insane.
- 14:54SPEAKER_02: Uh I I remember that happened in a crew game one time in George at Georgia.
- 14:57SPEAKER_02: I was at that game when that happened.
- 14:59SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I don't know if that'll happen again or not, but yeah.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: Uh it's possible.
- 15:05SPEAKER_02: It's possible.
- 15:06SPEAKER_02: Anything, anything can happen.
- 15:08SPEAKER_02: But uh yeah, it's crazy.
- 15:09SPEAKER_02: Uh, I don't I hope we're not jinxing them, but me and you're both on the both put picking the Bulldogs.
- 15:14SPEAKER_02: But I do feel like if we can't win this one, we're gonna beat Kentucky.
- 15:18SPEAKER_02: I feel like we're gonna get one of those wins between either Auburn or State.
- 15:21SPEAKER_02: Be great if we get both of them, but I just I have a feeling we're gonna get one of them and then beat Southern Minnesota and make it to six wins.
- 15:27SPEAKER_02: I just have confidence.
- 15:28SPEAKER_02: So uh we'll see what happens.
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'd be I'd be happy if we go ahead and get this one and we don't have to worry as much about the other ones.
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: So right, anyways.
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: Well, you and Bo go enjoy pumpkin Palooza.
- 15:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we've been going up, we've been going to Pumpkin Palooza since Bo was uh one year old.
- 15:44SPEAKER_02: So uh he'll be 13 in December.
- 15:47SPEAKER_02: And uh we're we're we're living on bar of time, man.
- 15:51SPEAKER_02: Just join every day we got with him.
- 15:53SPEAKER_02: And uh so we're probably gonna park a little bit closer.
- 15:56SPEAKER_02: When he walks, his back legs uh kind of give out on him.
- 15:59SPEAKER_02: He has uh cushions, uh he got diagnosed with that this year, Cushing's disease, which pretty much is just something older dogs get and he's on medicine for it, but seems to be doing all right.
- 16:08SPEAKER_02: But he's definitely slowing down, and uh, but we're we're keeping up the tradition.
- 16:12SPEAKER_02: He's gotta go get his picture made with the with the cheerleaders.
- 16:15SPEAKER_02: They love him, and uh he's the center of attention with that and get our picture in the with the hay.
- 16:19SPEAKER_02: He's always rolling in the hay.
- 16:20SPEAKER_02: So it's one of our favorite events of the year, and and uh look forward to it every year.
- 16:25SPEAKER_02: So excited to keep the tradition alive.
- 16:27SPEAKER_02: I'm all about keeping traditions alive.
- 16:29SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: Well, all right, Johnny.
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: Uh go dogs, and y'all stay tuned for our guest, Michael Henning.
- 16:37SPEAKER_02: Yes, indeed.
- 16:37SPEAKER_02: Uh Michael Henning uh has uh, like I said, a great story being connected with Auburn and beating Auburn and playing through injuries at state and just a warrior all around.
- 16:45SPEAKER_02: So I think y'all really enjoy what he has to say.
- 16:48SPEAKER_02: So thank you all for tuning in and listen to the interview with Michael Henning.
- 16:50SPEAKER_02: Appreciate it, guys.
- 16:52SPEAKER_02: Okay, uh, we'd like to uh welcome our guest to uh to Johnny's World this week is uh former Mississippi State quarterback uh Michael Henning.
- 16:58SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Johnny's World.
- 16:59SPEAKER_02: Thanks for coming on, man.
- 17:01SPEAKER_02: Man, thanks for having me.
- 17:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, uh well, first of all, uh tell everybody what you've been up to, what you're what you're doing these days, and we'll get into some football talk after that.
- 17:09SPEAKER_01: So I am uh in Montgomery.
- 17:12SPEAKER_01: Uh we live out in Pike Road, which is actually between Auburn and Montgomery, uh running the uh family business, the uh the fur business.
- 17:21SPEAKER_01: So uh my brother-in-law is uh still helping me a little bit, but he's not full-time like he was.
- 17:27SPEAKER_01: So it's really me and my dad, and then our great staff that we've had for a long time.
- 17:34SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: So you do your dad, y'all, your dad and you get along pretty well, y'all clash, or how does that go?
- 17:40SPEAKER_01: You know, family business is family business.
- 17:42SPEAKER_01: It's it's I will say, you know, it's it anybody that says they got a family business and it's all uh uh all just smiles and happy go lucky, they're lying to you.
- 17:53SPEAKER_01: Um there's definitely differences of opinion, difference in generation, difference in, you know, some uh way people like to run things.
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: So yeah, there's a little there's a little clash in there, but it's uh I'm used to the clash and the adversity and and and we work our way through it.
- 18:09SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 18:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my dad, my parents had a business and I couldn't get far enough away from that thing.
- 18:15SPEAKER_00: So I'm about three hours north, and my sister's there running it now, so they can have it.
- 18:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well you're the smart one, I think.
- 18:25SPEAKER_00: That's right, that's right.
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: Well, we were talking before you got on.
- 18:29SPEAKER_00: Uh we we think the that year that y'all beat Auburn was the last year that we beat Auburn and Bama the same year.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of crazy to think think about how long ago that was.
- 18:40SPEAKER_00: It didn't happen that often often.
- 18:42SPEAKER_01: A long time ago.
- 18:45SPEAKER_01: But we could do it this year, maybe.
- 18:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I feel I feel good about this game.
- 18:50SPEAKER_02: You know, I watched them play all miss the other day.
- 18:52SPEAKER_02: They're Auburn's offense just isn't very good.
- 18:55SPEAKER_02: So, but our offense isn't that great either.
- 18:58SPEAKER_02: So shouldn't be as much as long as it's not a 3-2 game.
- 19:01SPEAKER_01: I'm afraid I'm afraid we're looking at a 3-2 game like it was uh a couple years after us.
- 19:08SPEAKER_01: It'll be a battle of the defenses unless we can get something going.
- 19:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
- 19:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 19:12SPEAKER_00: Are you going to the game?
- 19:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so uh with with my ties to Auburn that I had growing up, you know, my mom was a cheerleader.
- 19:22SPEAKER_01: Uh we had a we have a a box.
- 19:25SPEAKER_01: We had a box growing up over there, and we still have it.
- 19:29SPEAKER_01: Um the only game I go to is the Mississippi State game uh in Auburn.
- 19:35SPEAKER_01: It's the only game I care to go to because I will have my maroon on and I will make probably if if we're doing good, I'll have everybody in the boxes around me and uh in our box mad at me.
- 19:48SPEAKER_01: So uh that's that's the way I like it.
- 19:52SPEAKER_01: But other than that, I do not go to Auburn.
- 19:54SPEAKER_01: I don't care for Auburn.
- 19:56SPEAKER_01: Uh but yes, I will be at the game.
- 20:00SPEAKER_01: Nice.
- 20:01SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
- 20:02SPEAKER_00: Well, let's uh let's let's rewind a little bit.
- 20:05SPEAKER_00: Uh tell everybody that doesn't remember, you know, how how you ended up at Mississippi State, how you ended up in Starkle, and uh maybe share a couple of your favorite memories, and then we'll we'll talk about that specific Auburn game after that.
- 20:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so uh, you know, going through the recruiting process, uh my senior year, I had a couple offers out there.
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: I had a gray shirt offer from Nick Saban when he was at LSU.
- 20:27SPEAKER_01: Jimbo Fisher was his quarterback coach.
- 20:30SPEAKER_01: Uh I had a full offer at Louisville uh with Rick Petrino.
- 20:35SPEAKER_01: And then Kroom called me literally the day before signing day and offered me, and and and I made the decision that you know I was ready to go and and play, and me being in Baton Rouge for six years was probably not going to be a good thing.
- 20:49SPEAKER_01: Uh so uh made that decision and it was the best decision I ever made.
- 20:55SPEAKER_01: You know, we weren't the we weren't the greatest Mississippi State team to, you know, to play, and you know, but but we we we we got the program on track uh to where it is today.
- 21:08SPEAKER_01: Um and and I think that these guys that are there now are are kind of facing that same battle that that we faced.
- 21:16SPEAKER_01: Um and you know, it's just a it's a hump that you gotta get over in order to you know figure out what's best for the university and and and to get back on the win and train so we can do kind of like what Dak did, you know.
- 21:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so so let's let's go back to that 07 game going in going into Auburn.
- 21:36SPEAKER_02: I know I know you got hurt in the game, but but just what what are you what are your memories of that game going into it?
- 21:42SPEAKER_02: I know it was emotional, it had to be something having to play out of Auburn and uh just talk a little bit about that.
- 21:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so you know that game was that game was very similar to I would say probably the feelings that you know Titus Brown and Kroom had when we went into Tuscaloosa.
- 21:58SPEAKER_01: Um but for me because I mean that was basically I mean that was the team.
- 22:02SPEAKER_01: I mean I was we traveled with uh Terry Baldon and I mean I we were friends dad was friends with all the coaches I mean we were you know we were in that program as about as deep as you could get into an Auburn program um you know we uh I I would go we'd travel to the beach with the coaches I mean and to go back into that stadium where I grew up going after peewee games we'd run home take a shower and get to Auburn you know to go back and play in that game was uh it was a surreal moment and it was one of those things that you know I ended up getting hurt in the first quarter uh early on we were driving and um broke my hand uh shattered it uh but it was just one of those things that you know you dream of as a kid and heck to be able to live out that dream it was pretty cool that is cool so after you after you hurt your hand um I can't remember what did you have to have surgery right away or what what was the process of that?
- 23:04SPEAKER_01: Came back well you know their uh their X-ray machine was right out of our tunnel and we had to go over to the baseball facility x-rayed it they gave me the phone I called my parents you know and let them know they were you know of course all at the game and you know they were just real emotional and uh that you know Rusty Linton was like hey we we you know we'll be fine we'll get it we'll have surgery when we get back to Startville uh so went back on the sideline they they slinged it up and uh I mean literally my whole the whole palm of my hand was shattered um they they came back in we did it I think we did the surgery on I want to say we did it Sunday morning early um and I think I had my wisdom teeth taken out right after that too at the same time it was awful it was it was a heck of a week I'll tell you that and I had to have my hand operated on in Starkville when I was in school playing a little airmiddle football I broke my thumb and uh I wonder if it was the same guy.
- 24:03SPEAKER_00: I still remember I had they put a pin in there and when they took went to take the pin out six or eight weeks later they said they pulled out a pair of pliers they said all right we're gonna take this thing out now and I said wait a minute are you gonna give me anything they said no we'll just get it real quick and that was that was the worst pain ever.
- 24:21SPEAKER_00: I couldn't imagine doing that again.
- 24:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah so that they did that on one of my toes uh when I broke it actually as a freshman coming in where the pin was still sticking out the tip of it.
- 24:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah and they just pull it out but this I've still got a plate I've got a about a four inch plate it's about a quarter inch wide or about a half inch wide that runs across the top of my hand and it when it gets cold buddy it it hurts.
- 24:48SPEAKER_02: Man wow well uh go ahead John well I was gonna say uh what what let's let's talk about this year's team have you been keeping up with them and what are your thoughts and we're having a little rough rough go with with our nett right now but uh it's just kind of a tough situation that he came into and um what what are your thoughts you know I mean we're we're so close to getting that six wins to get to a ball game this is a seems like this is a good shot this week or and then Kentucky coming up at home to to to get a much needed win.
- 25:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah that's for sure you know you know I think it was one of those things where you know Leach had such an identity his identity was we're gonna throw this ball we're gonna throw the ball and there's you're either going to stop it or you're not you know and then you know Arnett of course I I understand it he wanted to kind of do his own thing he didn't want to follow in those footsteps and I think we threw the ball what 12 or 14 times the first couple games and then 16 times a game after that and now he got so much pushback that everybody was like why are we not throwing the ball why are we not throwing the ball and we're trying to go back to throwing it 30 40 50 times a game and you know with with Rogers out and I don't think we have the line that we did when last year um you know it's just a it's just a tough thing and and for of course I I'll be the first to acknowledge how you know Mississippi State fans we want to win we want to do things and it wants to be right now.
- 26:12SPEAKER_01: You know and that's how it was with Kroom and unfortunately that's how it's probably going to be with our net they're gonna be trying to run him out of there.
- 26:19SPEAKER_01: I you know I hope not I hope they give the guy a chance to figure out his identity um and I don't know I saw I saw Rogers is questionable this week I guess is that's still kind of the the play over there and you know something we're definitely going to need him back.
- 26:36SPEAKER_01: I you know he's one of those players that's a that's a that's a he's a winner and that's what he does and you know to have him back would be huge this week right about that.
- 26:48SPEAKER_00: Have you uh do you do you go to any games in Starkville?
- 26:51SPEAKER_00: I know you said you go to the Arbor game did you ever come back to any games there?
- 26:55SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah we come back to the games uh in the last couple years I hadn't as much um we actually just closed heck this morning on a condo over there in Starkville so um my wife has got a uh clothing boutique over there called Splurge it's right behind Starkville Academy right across from uh Obi.
- 27:16SPEAKER_01: So yeah we're cut we're coming over there a lot more than we used to and and we love it over there and uh it's definitely a place that I think that we will retire for sure.
- 27:26SPEAKER_01: Nice she got you helping out in the clothing store too or does she she keep you out of there no of course I help out I have to yeah she I'm the I'm the move this and move that and then hey will you take this and will you take that but you know I don't mind it she's uh she's kind of living her dream out in the fashion world and it's uh done she's done great for herself and she's done it all on her own so I'm proud of her and uh just it's an awesome situation.
- 27:54SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 27:55SPEAKER_01: When when did y'all open up she opened up in I want to say the end of May end of May June uh so she's been over there and she's caught you know caught that was one of the main things we try to do is catch football season so right yeah when it's a when it's an early game it's dead over there but if it's a late game it's uh it's pretty busy because it's right there by my buddy Seth Onan's uh he's got a liquor store over there called the hair of the dog and then uh you've got the um mercantile which is his store as well so we we're kind of all best friends and we have three stores in there.
- 28:32SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 28:33SPEAKER_01: Nice.
- 28:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah that's cool.
- 28:36SPEAKER_01: Well is there anywhere y'all like to grab the grab a bite to eat when you come in town I I cannot go to Starkville without going to the grill.
- 28:44SPEAKER_01: Uh I like the steak on the stick and the shrimp on the stick and that is my jam.
- 28:50SPEAKER_01: I want the the same barbecue sauce they used to serve with it.
- 28:53SPEAKER_01: I wish it was back in the old location where I went when I was in college but right there there and I always have to go to Umi because I went to Umi when Umi was in an office building over there by the movie theater and you sat on the floor and the owner cooked you you know cooked you food and rolled you sushi and and now I mean I now now he's got what six or seven restaurants all throughout Mississippi so I'm proud of him.
- 29:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah wow yeah that's pretty cool yeah it was before your time but Johnny and I graduated 04 and so flow and eddies was there when we were freshmen and it burned down and there's still legends of the cheese sticks in there size of squirrels and so I don't know I don't know if if you remember that place or not but no I don't I don't remember that place.
- 29:42SPEAKER_01: It was over there on Main Street so or university whatever you call it so okay yeah it was it was actually in front of uh Bulldog Deli or Bulldog Burger uh now and there's okay yeah bulldog burger I know I love Bulldog burger my place was my place was Cappy's back in the day when I was there too oh so good that meet that meeting three would change your life it was always great to to eat that heavy and go to practice and have to write it with Jim now out there kind of kill you.
- 30:14SPEAKER_01: You know there's there's a place in Columbus called Old Hickory and it's the same I'll go there sometimes and eat it's the same owners uh that have Cappies and it brings back memories yeah they cook steaks it's just like happy's pretty much uh they get stuff but yeah that was that was my damn awesome man loved it well all right you got anything else Johnny we sure appreciate you coming on Michael and uh hopefully your presence hopefully you make a lot of Auburn fans angry this weekend at the game and uh go dogs yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna do my best I'm gonna do my best and I will say if you're coming up 85 my office is at exit four here in Montgomery and you'll see I have a huge banner that says Hell State and a Mississippi State logo on it and it's hanging on the balcony for everybody in the world to see.
- 31:08SPEAKER_01: So we are uh Hell State fans for sure and uh go dogs go dogs indeed just before before we get off did you see uh I'm at I'm actually going to the game uh this weekend up the alumni association is taking a bus from starting with Auburn so I'll be going so I'm excited about that but I've never been I I haven't been uh to game where I actually saw the the eagle that they let out fly but that viral clip that have you seen that where it it it hit the wall it's like oh my gosh yes it yeah I think that was their golden eagle or something you know they they they've got a several other ones and this was like uh one that they were gonna give him his first trial run and dipped down dipped down into the crowd and almost took a lady's head off and then hit a hit the front window actually hit like right beside our suite and oh it was it was not good I the PETA people were all after him.
- 32:04SPEAKER_02: I bet so yeah that's what I'm looking forward to seeing that seeing the seeing the eagle come out like that looks like I will say if if you don't have chills when you watch that something's wrong with you.
- 32:14SPEAKER_02: Right right yep it's pretty cool I've heard so yeah looking forward to yeah hopefully we can get get a win and and build off of it and and uh get to that bowl again that we much need so that's right that's what we need yes indeed well thanks again buddy we really appreciate it man all right y'all have a good one all right thanks baby uh bye bye