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Where College Football Champions Are Built? | Dave Bartoo · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 1: We're live from Dancing Rabbit Golf Club on the property
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  Speaker 1: of Pearl River Resort. Yes, Bar two and I did
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  Speaker 1: go to the sports book yesterday. We will be back
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  Speaker 1: there today. Bar two is going to make some bets
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  Speaker 1: on Week one Ole missing Louisville and possibly some other games.
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  Speaker 2: But we want to get into.
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  Speaker 1: Where do national championship coaches come from? And so let's
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  Speaker 1: just go over Kurt Signetty the last one, Ryan Day
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  Speaker 1: before that, Ohio State, and Jim Harbaugh at Michigan before that,
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  Speaker 1: in Kirby Smart before that, because everybody outside of the
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  Speaker 1: SEC is loving that we haven't won a championship in
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  Speaker 1: three years?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Are we going to win another one? Of course we
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  Speaker 1: are in our sleep. And would I be surprised if Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: Like if I went somewhere, if Bar two put me
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  Speaker 1: on a spaceship today and I didn't come back until
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  Speaker 1: Jim Anuary twenty first, and somebody told me that Georgia
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  Speaker 1: won the national Championship, I wouldn't be surprised.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be right, right, you can't be And I
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  Speaker 2: think when we were we were talking about the different
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  Speaker 2: coaches last night and the reason I'd brought it up
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  Speaker 2: in our conversation is just watching on the social medias
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  Speaker 2: some of the people talking about, well, this is where
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  Speaker 2: national championship coaches come from. You've got to be a
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  Speaker 2: great OC or a great DC at some point. They
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  Speaker 2: don't come from small schools, you know. And I think
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  Speaker 2: it was a lot of it was in reference to
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  Speaker 2: will Stein being a really good offensive coordinator at Oregon
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  Speaker 2: and UTSA. Now he's at Kentucky, and you know, it
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  Speaker 2: kind of just got me thinking of where do And
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  Speaker 2: it goes along with the conversation we had too about
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  Speaker 2: sometimes as an athletic director, when you're hiring guys, it's
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  Speaker 2: better to be more lucky than good. Sure, right, And
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  Speaker 2: you look at these national championship guys and yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: love elite ocs. We love elite DC's. Look at Kirby,
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  Speaker 2: yeah right, I mean he is in my numbers, without
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  Speaker 2: a doubt, the best defensive coordinator in the two thousands. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: at least it's twenty ten. Okay, Okay, you know in uh,
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  Speaker 2: let's call it his generation. Yet the last fifteen years.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm never one of those guys of greatest
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  Speaker 2: of all time. I like, how were you in your generation?
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  Speaker 2: Because rules. Everything's always changing. Sure, you know we're going
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  Speaker 2: to look back at the post in pre nil era, right, right,
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  Speaker 2: because that twenty twenty one transition, We're gonna look back
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  Speaker 2: and it's going to be I think it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be Wow, that really really changed football. We know it's
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  Speaker 2: going to. But to what extent We're not sure? Right?
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  Speaker 2: So you look at these, you look at the National
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  Speaker 2: champions and you look at Kurt Signetty, Right, was he
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  Speaker 2: an elite OC? No? Is he in late DC? No? No?
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  Speaker 2: Did he come out of the G six? Actually he
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  Speaker 2: came out of what Division two? Yeah? Division III? So
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  Speaker 2: he didn't have that before that. You got Ryan Day, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we'll give him elite OC. Right, So we got elite OC.
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  Speaker 2: But Jim Harbaugh wasn't elite anything before being a head coach.
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  Speaker 2: He was at San Diego, no scholar scholarship. San Diego
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  Speaker 2: is where he started as the head coach. So two
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  Speaker 2: of our last three national championship winning head coaches came
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  Speaker 2: from what most fans would say the absolute bottom of
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  Speaker 2: the bucket in terms of college football, Right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: national champions don't come from there, right, And then you
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  Speaker 2: got Kurby and think about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Quake Bart two, I understand Signetty, you know, having
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  Speaker 1: to go. I mean he went from low ball low
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  Speaker 1: a minor league baseball basically to the promised land of
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  Speaker 1: winning the national championship. But harball, after playing fifteen years
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL and having played at a blue blood,
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  Speaker 1: still had to go to San Diego with a non
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  Speaker 1: scholarship football program to cut his teeth.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly right, and then to Stanford and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: But Stanford didn't win before him or after him. That's
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  Speaker 1: how damn good he is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he wasn't some great offensive or defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 2: like a Kirby Right or o Ryan Day. And then
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  Speaker 2: obviously you have Nick Saban. Where's his first job Toledo.
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  Speaker 2: He's head coach at Toledo Rockets. Right, So now we
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  Speaker 2: got a guy coming from now when we got two
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  Speaker 2: Division two, Division three guys, an elite DC, elite OC
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  Speaker 2: and a guy from the MAC right, and and then
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  Speaker 2: we had that then oh gosh, then the twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 2: LSU or Durons Eddie oh right, and Eddie, well, Eddie's
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  Speaker 2: been Eddie's an elite storyteller. He is, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: an elite recruiter, right right. I mean if if if
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  Speaker 2: there was a thirty to thirty to thirty ESPN thirty
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  Speaker 2: thirty on recruiting stories, I'd be like, could you just
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  Speaker 2: turn the camera on two people that.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to hear from if they could say
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  Speaker 1: whatever they wanted, which they kind of can today since
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  Speaker 1: we're in new rules, which Ed is kind of doing
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  Speaker 1: in interviews, which is great because we were so pearl
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  Speaker 1: clutching as college football. We knew that kids have been
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  Speaker 1: paid under the table. It's been dirty forever, ms, churches.
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  Speaker 2: What do we do it? Yeah? We have a salary
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  Speaker 2: can now? So what?
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  Speaker 1: But the two guys that there's more than this, But
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  Speaker 1: the two guys currently would be Eddio and Mario Cristobal
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  Speaker 1: listening because they're absolutely ruthless warlords.
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  Speaker 2: When it comes to recruiting. Okay, go ahead, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think one of my which by the way,
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  Speaker 1: right now you have and I may have missed one,
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  Speaker 1: but right now you have Dabbo National Championship coach non
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  Speaker 1: Alito c or DC Signetti National Championship. This is recently
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  Speaker 1: save Signetti, Saban and EDDIEO. I think I'm missing one,
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  Speaker 1: but these are guys who were never ever elite play
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  Speaker 1: callers and their national championship coaches.
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  Speaker 2: Jim Dressel, Thank you, Jim Tressel. He's not he was
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  Speaker 2: never released. I'm not an unbelievable football coach. Yeah, good
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  Speaker 2: gree that Youngstown State and this guy.
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  Speaker 1: They were so well coached, so fundamentally sound in the trenches,
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  Speaker 1: so but very Signette like go ahead right for too.
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  Speaker 2: Urban Meyer non elite OC not onlye DC another one.
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  Speaker 2: Bowling Green State University right right and Urban to me
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  Speaker 2: has always been the poster child of the progressive head
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  Speaker 2: coach instant impact. He walked into Bowling Green, Bowling Green,
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  Speaker 2: bam eight and four, nothing to eight and four, walks
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  Speaker 2: into Utah, bam, walks into Florida. I mean everything that
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  Speaker 2: man touched. He was the most progressive in terms of
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  Speaker 2: being able to move from program to program.
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  Speaker 1: Hang on, let me go through them again. These are
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  Speaker 1: for our listeners. The These are coaches that have won
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  Speaker 1: national championships. I'm not talking about in nineteen sixty seven,
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  Speaker 1: which doesn't matter in the last fifteen years. Dabo Signetti,
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  Speaker 1: Saban ed o'sern Jim Trussell, Urban Meyer. No, none of
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  Speaker 1: them were elite OC's or DC's this is past.
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  Speaker 2: Give you another one. Okay, this guy average play caller,
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  Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher. Oh wow, Jimbo. But he had to be great.
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  Speaker 1: You know how we label guys because he was under Saban,
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  Speaker 1: they had to do a score ten points a game.
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  Speaker 1: When he was at LSU, he immediately got that that law.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're near Saban, or you're near Urban at
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  Speaker 1: a certain time, or you're near dab you know how we're.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're near That means you're elite. R Sean mcvacky, like.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie White Senior and Romeo Crenell under Bill Belichick and
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  Speaker 1: they both went three and thirty nine when they got
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  Speaker 1: head coaching and Josh McDaniel and when they got head
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  Speaker 1: coaching jobs.
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  Speaker 2: They couldn't get it done. Go ahead, you know, Dave
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  Speaker 2: bar two on the Out of Bound show. Okay, how
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  Speaker 2: about a really good offensive coordinator? I would say, not elite,
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  Speaker 2: but came out of nowhere right where he started. Gus
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  Speaker 2: smells on, Yeah, right, Arkansas State. Actually, Arkansas State has
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  Speaker 2: produced a couple of guys. Yeah, so gush, Hugh Freeze
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  Speaker 2: not but Jones not but John how is he getting renewed?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, right, but you're right, Mauson and Freeze
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  Speaker 1: and they made quick quick stops in Jonesborough.
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  Speaker 2: And then you go and you go even past fifteen
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  Speaker 2: years though, is you do have the elite play caller,
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  Speaker 2: the elite football mind in Spurrier. Sure, we'll we'll give him.
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  Speaker 2: We'll give him that.
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  Speaker 1: If you were grading back, then he would have graded
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  Speaker 1: oh through through the roof, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I mean I doubt, I doubt there is anybody
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  Speaker 2: that I knew that could take twenty two guys and
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  Speaker 2: win a football game, just any random twenty two guys
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  Speaker 2: and just go out and play football, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: just just his mind in terms of being able to
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  Speaker 2: manage the game, the offense, the flow of the game, everything.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there was anybody like him. There's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of similarities between Spurrier and Lane Kiffin. There there
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  Speaker 2: is actually, I always I always thought one of the
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  Speaker 2: biggest similarity to the Spurrier in terms of just give me,
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  Speaker 2: just give me a play card. Leach is Leech. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know is you know, drive around on the golf
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  Speaker 2: cart for six days and then Saturday, show up, go
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  Speaker 2: coach game, win kick your tail. Yeah, exactly. Just give
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  Speaker 2: me eleven guys and I'll beat you, right, just just
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  Speaker 2: absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, one more, Chiswick was not an elite DMC, and
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  Speaker 1: he wonted at Auburn.
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  Speaker 2: Right and anything, and then less Miles, Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: less Miles.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't an elite play caller. No, he was an
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  Speaker 1: offensive line coach who played under both schim Beckler all right,