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Developmental Q&A pt1 - FROM THE VAULT! · The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hm, it's that time of the month, Tom to get
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  Speaker 1: h A U D. It's the Hard Foundation bonus episode.
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  Speaker 1: We're your hosts, The Major King, Matcardona, maxim Amendment, Brian
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  Speaker 1: Myers and.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Silverbles himself Slogs Block Stole It.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up.
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  Speaker 2: We're live here Patreon Exclusive Art Foundation Q and A
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  Speaker 2: last month that smart Mark sterling here by the way,
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  Speaker 2: I'm joined by Maccardona and Brian Myers.
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  Speaker 4: But also swots mental journeyman Dylan Postel.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Jesusgle's gonna hang out with us for this one.
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  Speaker 2: If you have any questions, swoggle that come into your
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  Speaker 2: chime in.
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  Speaker 5: Chime in baby, we'll explore the space.
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  Speaker 2: Last month, we took questions from the Patreon Facebook group
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  Speaker 2: about the guys and their famous indie run pre WWE signing,
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  Speaker 2: and we talked all the way up to when they
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: got signed. So we're gonna take it right from there
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about that developmental time before
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: they get called up as the Major Brothers. And this
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  Speaker 2: time I didn't ask in the Facebook group. I asked
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  Speaker 2: the question specifically in the Hard Foundation, so only Hard
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  Speaker 2: Foundation people could ask. Because I was like these people
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  Speaker 2: who are probably who can't even listen to the episode
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  Speaker 2: are asking questions, right, But now that's not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 5: Ok.
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  Speaker 4: We have enough questions.
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  Speaker 2: We have plenty of questions. All right. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask the first question. Tell me, like, let's start.
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  Speaker 2: You guys get signed. We talked about it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: How do you get there? Where are you going?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 2: What is the first thing? Do they give you a
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  Speaker 2: piece of paper that says report to this thing at
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  Speaker 2: this date?
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  Speaker 5: So we sign in February of six. Uh, and Tommy Dreamer,
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  Speaker 5: I think is under the impression that if we finished semester,
• 2:00
  Speaker 5: we graduate college. But it's we just finished that year
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  Speaker 5: of college and we tell us us to stay and
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  Speaker 5: finish because.
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  Speaker 4: We were like, oh, we'll just drop out. We don't care.
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  Speaker 4: It was not that I don't even not like that,
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  Speaker 4: like it's a bad look. Just finish and report in May.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So like what that meant to me was, Okay, cut class,
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  Speaker 5: go to toys r us, quit all my jobs, right
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  Speaker 5: and just like get five hundred dollars a week, baby
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  Speaker 5: living at home.
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  Speaker 4: Unfathomable being rich like as a mo phone insane, like
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  Speaker 4: just an insane income to me.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty years old, getting five hundred dollars a week, no expensive,
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  Speaker 5: just show me the money.
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  Speaker 4: Literally thought.
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  Speaker 6: I was like Hugh Heffner like that's what I felt,
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  Speaker 6: Literally like that's what I like.
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  Speaker 4: Prost's at home. I'm away at school and I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: what am I supposed to do? Like I don't who
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  Speaker 4: cares about school?
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  Speaker 6: So I basically like completely fucked off. I like party
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  Speaker 6: with my friends. I like would just work out I
• 3:00
  Speaker 6: need to go to class if I was bored and
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  Speaker 6: my buddies would beg me or something like I.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't really I would they beg you to go to
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  Speaker 2: class because.
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  Speaker 6: They want me to like beither with them to you know,
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  Speaker 6: you know, accompanying them, like just nothing else, like nothing
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  Speaker 6: else going on, Like I don't really have to go.
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  Speaker 4: It sucks like I wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 6: And then it was like pretty unbelievable, like great time
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  Speaker 6: in my life, like just the last time really there
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  Speaker 6: there was like no not a.
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  Speaker 4: Care or responsibility in the world.
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  Speaker 5: I remember my Spanish teacher was like on me because
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  Speaker 5: I stopped going to class, and I explained to them like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: like I stopped going to class because I sat to
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  Speaker 5: WV and I'll be getting like prepared stuff like that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my son's like a huge band that I got
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  Speaker 5: an a wow.
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  Speaker 6: So like not that that like similar but similar to
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  Speaker 6: that story.
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  Speaker 4: Then it came down to the end, like all.
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  Speaker 6: Finals and stuff, and I was like whoa, Like I've
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  Speaker 6: like completely effed up here, Like I didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 4: I would to fail everything. I was like, eh, it
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  Speaker 4: was a shot in the dark.
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  Speaker 6: I wrote this one page essay explaining like my situation,
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  Speaker 6: like I have my childhood dream job.
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  Speaker 4: I am not coming back to.
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  Speaker 6: School, like I'm finishing this semester and I'm moving to Atlanta.
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  Speaker 6: I signed with you know, like I will not be back,
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  Speaker 6: and I said, please just give me a passing grade
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  Speaker 6: so I didn't completely waste my parents' money. And every
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  Speaker 6: single professor had gave me like the lowest possible grade.
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  Speaker 2: To D plus or whatever it would be to not fail.
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  Speaker 5: I still have dreams to this day. They're like I'm
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  Speaker 5: back in college and like ten years of past and
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  Speaker 5: I don't remember like what class to go to, our
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  Speaker 5: building to go to. It was really weird.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Broski, I have the same thing. Yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: have a very very similar thing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even think about college, do I.
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  Speaker 5: Only in my dreams.
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  Speaker 2: That's fun I often have that weird dream which building, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: which building?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny.
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  Speaker 5: Ever ever, ever, so we're told that we're going to
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  Speaker 5: go to Deep South Wrestling, they say, and by day
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  Speaker 5: I mean like WW says Atlanta, Georgia, but it's really mcdonna, Georgia.
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  Speaker 6: Which also little note that just sparked my brain. I remember,
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  Speaker 6: like anyone that like we only really knew, like Kevin
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  Speaker 6: Matthews had been signed or km from Impact Wrestling family.
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  Speaker 6: He he got to choose and we were told you're going
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  Speaker 6: to Deep Southing. He was never on the table like
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  Speaker 6: would you like OVW Deep South? Of course we would
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  Speaker 6: have picked WW because we're like, that's what John Cena ran.
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  Speaker 6: You aren't get like it was like a dream, you
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  Speaker 6: know what I mean. So we're like, what is this
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  Speaker 6: Deep Southing? We don't really know.
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  Speaker 4: But then at the time, Kevin was like in love
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  Speaker 4: with Deep South because he was in like the honeymoon
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  Speaker 4: phase and was like, oh, it's so great.
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  Speaker 6: Well I picked Deep South in this way less and
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  Speaker 6: he was saying like there's way less people there, which
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  Speaker 6: probably in the long run was the smart move because
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  Speaker 6: there was less talent there, you know, less of a
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  Speaker 6: less competition.
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  Speaker 4: But we didn't get a choice.
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  Speaker 5: But then I remember, like right before we moved on there,
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  Speaker 5: he was telling us some horror stories about being like
• 5:40
  Speaker 5: trapped in the back of a U haul and driven
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  Speaker 5: around and forced to drink.
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  Speaker 4: Like hazing, like you would like a fraternity style.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, oh no, I'm twenty years old.
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  Speaker 4: We would go down with these grown men, which was
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  Speaker 4: still the case.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so now what are you given? Like they're just
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: you have to be here? Are you given travel money?
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: Do you guys say you.
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  Speaker 4: Got a two thousand dollars moving check?
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  Speaker 5: Right? There was something small like that, and then.
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  Speaker 4: First month rent and moving is what it's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 5: I turned twenty one, and I think we leave the
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  Speaker 5: very next day, so May fifteenth, we drive, Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Me and my dad in a car and broken his
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  Speaker 6: dad in a car, and like we kind of like
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  Speaker 6: tailed each other.
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  Speaker 5: And I remember this very vividly. I remember I didn't
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  Speaker 5: want to get a moving van, but we did. For
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  Speaker 5: some reason, we like ended up. I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: you wanted to get it or your mom something. We
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  Speaker 5: ended up getting a moving van, and that turns out
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  Speaker 5: to be a fucking disaster. Remember it comes like in
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  Speaker 5: real weeks weeks late. My TV's broken and then they
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  Speaker 5: won't bring it up to the third floor.
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  Speaker 4: So I think the idea was which did help.
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  Speaker 6: Like there was like furniture and stuff that like my
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  Speaker 6: parents either donated or or some of yours shit too, like,
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  Speaker 6: so at least we didn't have this giant.
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  Speaker 4: Empty apartment, you know.
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  Speaker 6: And I think that's something that like Kevin putting our
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  Speaker 6: heads be honestly, He's like, you don't want to be
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  Speaker 6: like sitting in line lawn chairs in the riving room
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  Speaker 6: and ship like then that's what.
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  Speaker 4: People did, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I remember the first day we got there, I know
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  Speaker 5: we're giving it ahead, and I remember we went to Walmart.
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  Speaker 5: I think we did get lawn chairs, but we definitely
• 7:09
  Speaker 5: got the TV with the bunny ears. I watched like
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  Speaker 5: the finale of Loss.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, only crap.
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  Speaker 5: So we're driving down in two separate cars from New
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  Speaker 5: York to uh, Georgia. I believe we stopped once just
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  Speaker 5: to sleep, but we stopped in Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: We got to like the Georgia line and got a
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  Speaker 6: hotel and passed out like two in the morning or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: And the car keeping also giving mind the card onomn
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  Speaker 6: every ninety minutes.
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  Speaker 5: We're probably hydrated. Yes, well, I remember at that point.
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  Speaker 5: I have a Pontiac grand Am, and all I can
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  Speaker 5: remember is like the whole car stuffed in a small car,
• 7:43
  Speaker 5: and I remember my Neca marshmallow Man just being like
• 7:46
  Speaker 5: in the back seat, like yeah, of course. So by
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  Speaker 5: this time my bedroom has now transformed into my collection.
• 7:58
  Speaker 5: My collection is all on display in my childhood bedroom.
• 8:01
  Speaker 5: But I'm not bringing bringing it with me because this
• 8:03
  Speaker 5: is temporary in my mind. I'm not gonna live in
• 8:06
  Speaker 5: McDonough in and out, you know, So I don't bring
• 8:09
  Speaker 5: my figures with me. Obviously we continue the collection, but
• 8:14
  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't, Brian, you didn't bring any of
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  Speaker 5: yours with you.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't bring one figure when I moved, but I
• 8:19
  Speaker 6: bought a tote and ziplocks and I accumulated very quick.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, can I can?
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  Speaker 5: I pop in real quick?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 8:27
  Speaker 5: How did you guys get noticed?
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  Speaker 4: Is there was there that weird tryout?
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  Speaker 5: There's a weird there was a tryout. There was a tryout.
• 8:34
  Speaker 5: I don't even remember these there was a wwe dot
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  Speaker 5: com like application slash tryout.
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  Speaker 2: But we talked about this exact thing in the episode,
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  Speaker 2: just real quick.
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  Speaker 5: So we filled it out, we applied, we got called.
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  Speaker 5: We did pretty bad at the tryout.
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  Speaker 6: I think Mikey put in the word with Dreamer or
• 8:49
  Speaker 6: vice versa, trying to fill it out with bodies.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't necessarily do great. I mean I certainly didn't.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't leave that day thinking we're gonna get signed.
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  Speaker 5: I left I.
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  Speaker 4: Got free, take it so alive that like.
• 9:01
  Speaker 5: You know what, I'm twenty years old. I gotta look
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  Speaker 5: from everything's okay. But then when we got side, I was,
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  Speaker 5: I was shocked. So we moved down. It's the it's
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  Speaker 5: the end.
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  Speaker 2: Of May, okay. So let me ask you this. I
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: just want to I want to get to these guys questions,
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: but I just want you to paint the picture in
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  Speaker 2: case they don't do that. So you're down there, you're
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  Speaker 2: both living together. You're making five hundred dollars a week
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  Speaker 2: with this.
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  Speaker 4: You have beautiful, beautiful apartment. I don't think anyone ever
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  Speaker 4: lived in before.
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  Speaker 5: Like, first day I get there, I clogged the toilet.
• 9:29
  Speaker 4: That story has been told. Yeah, the ship.
• 9:33
  Speaker 5: The ship is overflowing the water, the ship water. It's
• 9:37
  Speaker 5: coming into my bedroom. Ship for an it's coming into
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  Speaker 5: my bedroom. I'm stripping naked and using my clothes as
• 9:45
  Speaker 5: a damn to block the clothes from getting into my
• 9:47
  Speaker 5: new carpet.
• 9:49
  Speaker 6: And Bridad come screaming like like that.
• 9:54
  Speaker 5: Brian's dad comes in and it's like that and he
• 9:56
  Speaker 5: reaches in and he fucking unclogs with his hand and.
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: Turns the Yeah, yeah, who knew you can just turn
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: the knob there down there and turn the water.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: I know that, all right? Pay me the picture about
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: Deep South, Like okay, who are the trainers when you
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  Speaker 2: get there? What? Like? Who are some of the students
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  Speaker 2: that are Like.
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  Speaker 4: I said, we only Kevin acts like we were like
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: best friends, Like I knew of Kevin. We were not friends.
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  Speaker 6: He was got he got my number from somebody and
• 10:24
  Speaker 6: he would like call and like stooge Like I said.
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: The first thing was like deep shouts incredible. Bill was the.
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  Speaker 6: Coolest on my try on the month later like this
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  Speaker 6: place is help man careful? Like you know, like it
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  Speaker 6: was a complete whinny And he's calling and stoogs and
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  Speaker 6: stuff to me And I would call man and be
• 10:39
  Speaker 6: like tell him what Kevin just said. So we didn't
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  Speaker 6: know what the hell expect.
• 10:43
  Speaker 5: Bill Hmot's a trainer and.
• 10:44
  Speaker 6: We don't really know building out from like scary ass,
• 10:47
  Speaker 6: tough enough stuff that he was already being that character
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  Speaker 6: on TV, so it wasn't that much of a stretch to.
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  Speaker 5: Like Dave Taylor was also a trainer, which ends up
• 10:56
  Speaker 5: being super great and you want to be a day's
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  Speaker 5: class And then Jody Hamilton from the assass since he's
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: like the owner slash trainer, but he's not training ship.
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  Speaker 4: He's like a nineteen fifties top pro wrestler.
• 11:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, so a small collusion.
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  Speaker 6: The Deep South schedule would be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday train
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  Speaker 6: Thursday was TV, which they would have a live event
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  Speaker 6: at the building we'd train at.
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  Speaker 4: But it would be a lot, I mean equally long
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  Speaker 4: day because.
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  Speaker 6: You know, call time was one or whatever, and then
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  Speaker 6: you'd be there till ten to eleven at night and
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  Speaker 6: do the show.
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  Speaker 2: And you would break down. You'd set up and then
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: break down.
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  Speaker 6: Nothing already set up. There'd always be four uh matches
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  Speaker 6: in dark and then four.
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  Speaker 4: On the TVs. Never changes eight matches, so you weren't on,
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  Speaker 4: you were, I mean, that was that's all there was.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: But if you weren't on, you were there.
• 11:44
  Speaker 6: If you were in the first four matches, there was
• 11:45
  Speaker 6: no punching, no kicking, and no head head.
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: Clothes lines, no kicks, the clothes I just said that
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: the Swinger this week you said you no punches, no kicks,
• 11:52
  Speaker 5: no clothes lines.
• 11:53
  Speaker 6: Very old school, so you couldn't do those. You had
• 11:54
  Speaker 6: to save those for the four TV matches.
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  Speaker 4: Just real old school, like that's that's Friday.
• 12:03
  Speaker 5: Friday was the tape review and then like a practice
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: which eventually turned into make a deal Friday, We'll get into.
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  Speaker 4: Internet lore and stuff.
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  Speaker 6: And then Saturday would become this thing that like optional,
• 12:13
  Speaker 6: which was an optional because.
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  Speaker 4: If you didn't show up to it you'd be buried
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  Speaker 4: pretty much.
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  Speaker 5: But that that, yeah, that all those options they say
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  Speaker 5: options never optional option. For the most part, I felt
• 12:22
  Speaker 5: like we hadn't the majority of the weekends off that
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  Speaker 5: unlike OVW did like a lot of live events. Yeah,
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: and when we go to o WW later we.
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  Speaker 6: Experienced that that wound up being a demise of Deep South,
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  Speaker 6: is that there was no live events like they're supposed
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  Speaker 6: to be.
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  Speaker 4: Getting us lives to get more experience.
• 12:37
  Speaker 6: But instead we're just having these like hillacious practices, breaking
• 12:40
  Speaker 6: our bodies down front of nobody.
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: Right these TVs.
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: Jody would always say, like there's the best diamond depend it,
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: but it's not an independent you're a ww developmental territory.
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: And like they they weren't really preparing you in a
• 12:53
  Speaker 5: sense for kids, having one match a week is not enough.
• 12:56
  Speaker 6: It's not fast track any when that's your career. It's
• 12:58
  Speaker 6: fine for a regular inny guy or something.
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Yeah you should be doing four.
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  Speaker 5: You hear all these horror stories about Bill and like,
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: trust me, practices fucking sucked. They were miserable, they were scary,
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  Speaker 5: and we went off for Christmas break. When we came
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: back out, I had like an anxiety. I didn't want
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: to go. I don't want to do this, Like but
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: you know it it shaped us and it made us
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  Speaker 5: tougher and we you know, yeah that we could not
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: be like fucking bullshitted or bullied. So it was like
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  Speaker 5: an invaluable lesson in that like.
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  Speaker 6: We we became like unfucked with the ball because like
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  Speaker 6: Deep South was so hard, like we can get through this,
• 13:35
  Speaker 6: Like you can get through like a rip or whatever,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But the my favorite example
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  Speaker 6: of a Deep South is Danny Inferno or Danny Jimondo
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  Speaker 6: was like a he's a New Jersey indie guy.
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  Speaker 4: Forever's OVW guy.
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  Speaker 6: He got like traded or whatever they would do, like
• 13:50
  Speaker 6: talent exchanges. He came to Deep South and he did
• 13:53
  Speaker 6: the warm up and was.
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  Speaker 4: Like, oh god, it's awesome practice.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks really all right swinging there, and then everyone's like, dude,
• 13:59
  Speaker 6: that's just a warm up, bro, like we haven't even started.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: Like oh my god, that's how like hallacious it was.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: And now when you say that, what will give me
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: an example of warm up? I'm actually curious?
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: Full alright?
• 14:10
  Speaker 6: First off, two miles around the building, yep, you run outside,
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  Speaker 6: you you put on like regular shoes, you run the
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: perimeter of the shopping center that was Deep South, yep.
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: Two miles back in this full stretch routine into like
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: one hundred squats, one hundreds, one hundred push ups into
• 14:28
  Speaker 6: like this rope running spot.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just like it's a two hours.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: And this was everyone another mental another mental fuck. You know,
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: for me personally, was that okay, if you were Dave
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: Taylor's class that I'm making up these times they don't remember.
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: So let's say it was like ten to two or
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: ten to ten to twelve. You knew at twelve it
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: was over because then Bill's class started. If you're in
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: Bills class, antdoone who knows. You can't even check the
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: clock because you don't know what's gonna end. You don't
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: know what the practice is gonna be. It's never the same.
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: And like that, I'm not saying it should be the same.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like the unexpected was a scary part
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: because you didn't know if he was gonna take it
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: easy on you that day, be fair with you, or
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: kick your fucking ass.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like Bill.
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: Bill is weird in the sense that like if he
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: fucking hated you, he was hard on you, right like,
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: and he hated like Kenny Omega and Kevin.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: Matthews or whatever, he was hard in them.
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: He like liked us a lot, and he was hard
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: as fucked on us, but like in a different way.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: But it's equally I think talenting, you know, because he
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: expected more out of us because he liked us, or
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: he liked Gallows or whatever.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Why did he hate Kenny Omega and Cam.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: I really don't have the answer to that.
• 15:35
  Speaker 7: I don't know how did they how did they determine
• 15:37
  Speaker 7: the classes?
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: I don't have answer to that either.
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: It would switch every once in a while we were
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: in both.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: And then so you said, you named Kenny Omega and
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: km who else? So just who's who?
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: Luke Gallas, Cope, Kingston, TJ Naddy, m v P, Great Khali,
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: Ray Gordy, Ray Gordon, the Gemini, the Gemini, Eric Perez
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: Sonny Siaki Connor from the Ascension, Yeah, Mike Taylor, Tracy Taylor.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: Angel, William J.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: Williams, Mike Knox, Dontel Who is Taylor Wilder?
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Bean baylist down there?
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Brooke, Uh there, Smoker's the Coats, the Coats, the super Genie, Okay,
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: the super Genie. I mean, I'm sure we're there were
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: so many people. The mizz started there, Nikki from the Spirars.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Squad started there. One Nick Mitchell.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, Michelle Cool, miche Coole start that striker.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to some questions here. Jamie Ogden
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: and he's starting out, Brosky Hot, what donuts was the
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: story with the donuts and naked gallows? Heard so many
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: rumors over the years.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: We alluded to this.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: So Thursday, it's a show. Let me brad Jay, let.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: Me set this up in my like make a deal Friday. Okay,
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: we explained the schedule. You gotta paint the picture of this.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: You've already trained. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, hellacious. Plus we left
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: out that Wednesday was promo day as well, so the
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: second half of Wednesday, you're cutting your promo that we
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: were told was going straight to the office. So in
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: our brains, like Vincent Man's watching this, he wasn't. But
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: that was the type of pressure it was. It was
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: a minute no fuck ups. If you fucked up, Bill.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Sent like you stuttering and being tore like that's what
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: he sent to the office.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: So it was like high steaks, and in retrospect, I
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: do think it that's the way to do it.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I in my old age. I agree.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: Okay, so high stakes, that's crazy. Then you come back
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: Thursday you do this show. This is another very important
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: aspect of this. Thursday night, pretty much everyone would go
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: out to this bar called Double D's and literally rage
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: because you're just like, you know, you just got through
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: the week, blah blah. You know you gotta come in
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: and do this tape review, which is like you're just
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: literally just showing up.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: It's easier than anything you're gonna do.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: All week, party, all night, show up at Like there
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: was like it was like eight am, you're showing up tape,
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: you sit through the state, you're getting bombarded.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: You know, you're the shits. This was the blah blah blah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: like just eat it whatever.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: Then it was either see you Monday, or it was
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: come back and we're having a practice.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Hm, and you might have a practice if like they
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: thought the show particular for sure, for sure.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: For sure, for sure. Okay, so even before our time.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: That practice people would pitch the bill like make a
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: deal Friday and the like, but it would be a
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: trade bill. Say bill would up say what are you
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: offering me for me to let you out of here?
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Like like I didn't get something out of which it
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: meant humiliating yourself basically, you know for the most part,
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: or doing something insane.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Like there was one where, man, this is some story.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: I think it was like Tony Santarelli's before a time,
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: he said, let's just do a thousand squats or something,
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: and they.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Like then everyone was like, I guess they were so defeated.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: They're like, yeah, that just sounds he's having to practice
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: and and no, you know, like guys are collapsing and ship.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: So that's where rat make a deal Friday. And that's
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: a let Brosky think over. That's a particular yes.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: So the day before Thursday, it's it's Tommy swayed against
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: brad Jay. There's some sort of spot they want to do,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: and Bill says they're gonna fuck it up, and they say, well,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: we're not gonna suck it up. Something where if they
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: fuck it up they have to eat a bunch of
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: jelly donuts the next day. Tommy whatever, they fuck up
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: the spot, the next day, the jelly donuts are there,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: and now's make a deal Friday. Now Buil didn't say,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Matt get in the corner and and and and Drew
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: pull down your pants, and I think it's happened.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: Oh, I'm just realizing now a lot of us is
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: to blame on brad Jay for being a little bit
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: because he ate like three of them, and there was
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: all these donuts left where he was supposed to eat
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: them as his punishment for blowing a spot.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: So I remember the initial.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Three jelly donuts is a lot of donuts.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Well, okay, the initial pitch for making deal is like
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: I lay there like the mat and we put the
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: jelly donuts on me and GALLASI just gives me like
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: an Ultimate.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Warriors splash and just they explode.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: So like, I think that's the original pitch, which snowballs
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: in negotiation, which leads to me sitting in the corner,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Melissa Coates sitting in the opposite corner with jelly donuts
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: in our mouths, and Luke Gallows the freaking deacon naked
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: giving us naked stick faces like Squisher in the face
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: into the jelly donuts and then back and forth until
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: the donuts are done full.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: Blown omaga like running but Squishers like with his like
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: genitals covering two heads which he doesn't and he's doing
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: this to a female. Yes, now, this is gonna sound crazy,
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: and it does absolutely sound like a crazy story.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: But we're all so like defeated.
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: I guess like this sounds like a more rational decision then,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: like than just getting your ass kicked and taking bumps.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: And like we're all we're all laughing. This isn't like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: oh my god, I have to do this like that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: It wasn't like this bullying thing whatsoever.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: More than actually if anything was like a camaraderie thing
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: or everyone's like, oh hell yeah, taking one for the team.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Or whatever, sounds like a military thing.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: It sounds like military as much what deep stuff was like.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: And I never been in the military.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: But so someone with their their razor phone or whatever
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: took a picture of it, and then years later it
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: ended up on the There are a lot of.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: People taking pic It was like people just in the
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: front row sta like the community.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Later ends up on the internet. So you know, people
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: ask me about that all the time. Like we were
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: not bullied or forced doing that. It was kind of
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: like our idea that snowballed into that and the guys
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: had a practice. So I don't regret it. I would
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: do a big thing.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Did you get a lot of drinks paid for that night?
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Probably?
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: I'm sure we went out rage I mean a big
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: thing about Deep South, and like bro Sky.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I would never do it because we were twenty one
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: and like we just we.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: Didn't know anything. We knew we were green and we
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: were just doing we were told no matter what. So
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: we didn't like complain was some of these people would
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: just write emails behind Bill or Jodie's back and send
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: him like anonymous emails to John Yeace and say like
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: this is what's going on deep sound. You got to
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: put a stop to this, and the just cause more
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: and more problems and almost like never ending.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Would would that pissed Bill off?
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: More?
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Print them out and hang them in the locker room
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: and like ship like that, and like we were walking
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: into this like our first week, like what on earth?
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: What are some of the other maked deals?
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, is it?
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Is it all craziness like this?
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: I remember one time we had these like crazy We
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: stole shopping carts from a store next door and we
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: had shopping cart races.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Instead of doing the run like I said in the morning,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: we had a race.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: We'd put your partner in the shopping cart and get
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: around the building and beat each other and ra.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: It was one I think it's brad Jay's birthday and
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: he's he wears like Chrissy's skirt and he's doing up
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: and overs and then someone's smacking his ass. Yeah remember that?
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah weird?
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: I remember remember one where we had to like stick
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: quarters in our ass. With with like our gym shorts,
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: not like up your bottle, but between the cheeks and
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: and try to walk like a relay race, try to
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: run or whatever you could do cross the way and
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: try to drop it in a solo cup and you
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: had like a team and you'd run back at tech
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: the first and next wrests would go until like you
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: made a dollar in the cup.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: My god, did you ever fail and then have to
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: have practice?
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: I'm sure, dude, I literally, I'm not kidding.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: And maybe we sound nuts or like pussy's, but the
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: South was so hard you would just like black out,
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: like you just black out and get through it, like
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: I can't explain it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: Like so if you guys didn't do it, if you
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: guys didn't have a deal for Bill, he would just
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: go nope, yeah, okay, so he wouldn't always take the deal.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, That's why I got it as extreme.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Is the thing that I found out hearing to have
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: a naked man ask in your face while you're eating
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: a don't man.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: The thing I found out years later that was like
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: disheartening was that Bill would like bury us about nake
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: a deal when like I was saying before it was
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: like to us, it was like this camaraderie thing where
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: everyone like would almost be joyous to get out of
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: practice and it was fun whatever I was laughing, you
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: know it was. It was never like malicious at all,
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: you know, and it brought everyone together.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: But then when like Bob Holly or Ben, we will
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: come down behind our back.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: And like these kids are such little bitches. This is
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: what they're willing to do. Like he turned into that,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: which was not fun.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Way to look at it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeahs change you know that kind of stuff which
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: just sucked.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: You described some things that reminded me a lot of
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: my first couple of years at CAP. Obviously you weren't
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: training with us like that hard as hard as you're describing.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: But did you take a lot of the beats because
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: you did used to make us run around the building
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: in our wrestling boots. You did.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: That's like one quarter yeah right.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: But basically you kind of took it and made it
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: more civilized.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, there's plenty of things.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: As we do a stretch, things.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Clarify that a year and the Deep South Bill gets
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: fired and we get a couple of months a doctor
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: Tom who I got a year of an FCW when
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: he to me is like the greatest wrestling trainer of
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: all time and that's why I stole all my coaching
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: stuff from IC.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, all right, So we're twenty four minutes
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: in and we got one question in Jesus Brett Van,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: what was the hardest adjustment from just being an indie
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: guy to having a developmental contract?
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: There was nothing because we were so green. We were nothing.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: We were literally we couldn't have been less than nothing,
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: like we didn't we had no experiences.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: We had, you know, training with Mikey whipbreak. That was it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: And I think that helpless because Bill liked Mikey and
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: that like gave us some credibility with him, and I
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: think that's why we started off on a good foot
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: with him.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: I think everything was positives. There was nothing, you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: for me, I never lived away from home before, so
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: this was like my college, so there was nothing like
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: I was never homesick, nothing, nothing like that was all
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: just everything just felt like a natural progression, whether it
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: be like the training every day, and like Brian kept saying,
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: like we were so green that I was like, Okay,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: it's this fucking hard. But I guess this is what
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: WWE training is, right.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: You know, like like we didn't know we're options, you know.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Like right, so like we didn't complain, Like maybe we
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: were complaining you know to our friends like once the
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: practice was over, you know, with within like our little
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: inner circle, but never like writing letters or complaining to
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Bill or complaining or talking back to Bill, you know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: like right, that was it. It was hard, it sucked,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: and you just had to do it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there wasn't really like another option for us, like
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: his quitting was obviously wasn't an option.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: So that's it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a great question, Kevin Petruzilio. Is there
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: anyone from your developmental days where you thought they had
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: no chance of becoming a ww wrestling superstar who actually
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: did make it?
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a rough one to call someone out on.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Well they well they're obviously a star now, so it
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: didn't matter what you thought.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that. I mean, I can say I
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: definitely didn't think keny Omega would be as big as
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: he has become, But that's not saying I didn't see
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: anything in him, because he was super talented and super.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Just like one of those things that could sell Bill
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: doesn't like this guy. He's like really not gonna right.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I see, he was.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Somebody who was always like doing outside the box promos
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: and very entertaining, and his style was different.
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: I think it's like the opposite of that question, like
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: how did some of these people not become star?
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: That I think is the better question.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: How did Kevin Matthews never shake out his six' four
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: can cut a?
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Promo? Handsome?
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Like there was this team high Impact Mike taylor And
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: tony San durelli would WHO i really believe we're going
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: to be the Next Hardy.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: Boys, yeah and they're like and they actually really, helped
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: like we kind of pattern ourselves after them a little
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: bit to like see how they. Were it's because they
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: were like the top team the deep stuff when we got,
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: there so we, Currently, okay they're the top baby team
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: and that's what we want to. Be so we kind
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: of LIKE i don't want to say, idolized but definitely like.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Emulated. Right.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: YEAH i don't think there's anybody WHO i thought like
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: isn't gonna make it and then made. IT i just,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: think LIKE i, said, like how can you predict that
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: someone's gonna become like one of the biggest names in the.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Business like that's. Tough, yeah you, know like Even, Kofe
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: like we Knew kobe had, it WOULD, i you, know
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: predict he go on to be like how many has
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: been a champion IN wwe like some things that are
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: like almost, Unpredictable like you know he's gonna be, good
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: but you can't predict how, good you know for?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Sure Cool Bailey. Sumner we've heard some Funny Deep south
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: AND fcw. Stories well what's your? Pieces what's your BEST ovw?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Story but, WELL i guess we'll just put it, here
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: like something that we haven't mentioned so, far you, Know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: okay let me just say this. Too, guys there's a
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: really great vlog on our. YouTube i feel like it's
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: a companion piece to. THIS i feel like you should
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: go pause this right. Now go watch this. Vlog it's twenty.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Minutes these guys do a toy hunt in. McDonough they
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: actually visit the school.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: And where we used to like legit toy hunt.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: And they try to find their. Apartments so it's like.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: We can't find an apartment we live in for a.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Year you get some really cool visuals for. THIS i
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: think it's a great companion piece to like watch it
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: like right now or. After it's, Great so check that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Out but maybe some unrelated FUNNY ovw.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: Story oh, weew it's our fault and It's i'm Gonna
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: i'm not ready to take full blame for, it BUT
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: i will say it's a mutual thing Where alice now
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: did not like us and we didn't want to be.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: There so this is a terrible.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Combo, okay, well, actually before you you do, This, yeah
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: when do you get TO? Ovw how does that even
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that's like a?
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Year a year into, it we do exactly a year
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: In Deep.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: South Deep south closes in on the dot based like almost.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: Exact, yeah my, GOD i have so many questions in
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: my mind to come, down like what rot say we
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: Drove may, Fifteenth we debut ON Tv may first or?
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Second first?
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: Second, yes so it closes. Down long story, Short we're
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: told that the majority of the people are moving To
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: tampa to START, scw and that a handful of us.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: Are going on said the sixth MOST tv ready, talents
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: we want to continue working so they're ready to be
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: called up like asap or you, know in case that
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Likenke vince wanted, talent So Us jesse And, Festus Brad
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: jay And angelie The love all reported In. Louisville everybody
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: else went to what would BECOME, fcl but it was literally.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Nothing they just moved To tampa with no.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: Direction and in that that week or two of the
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: move To, louisville we get called, up so we debut
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: and then have to go to another. Developmental so that's
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: like we're already in like a bed a mind.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Fuck it's, like, okay, well what are we really doing?
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Here like you, know we're not rolling going to be
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: here a couple of, months which we should have like
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: put the pedals of the net on and been like, okay,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: cool instead of being like we shouldn't be, here which
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: is ridiculous because right we're still green as.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Shit another thing THAT i said on like the, podcast
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: on THE mc story, podcast because like we're doing these
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: kick ass rock and roll express style and matches With
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Robert gibson and then like on the road they're very
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: is the, time they're super strict with like the five
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: count and LIKE dq and. Guys so we weren't like
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: we were like contradicting, ourselves like we weren't getting the
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: proper reps in we felt that, way you, know we.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: Should also like clarify. That and this goes to those
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: a lot of those deep ceuth stories were just still to.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: It there is a massive disconnect at this point in
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: what we're doing About Mental nwwe like we're a branch
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: of their. Business but like they were the business. Model
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: then it's NOT. Nxt it's not their thing that they
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: own and have control. Of it's Literally Jody Hamilton's Deep South,
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: wrestling It's Danny DAVIS'S ovw that they're leasing and using
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: for their talent to work. At, Right so like those
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: guys weren't delusional to a degree because they did have
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: control of these. Companies Like broski, Said jody would give
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: us the speeches at the end of very show.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Like we're the best goddamn independent going.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Today and it's like real, confusing but, right and LIKE i,
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: said we've got those you, know your promo Day Like
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: i'm thinking of my, mind oh, man all the writers
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: are just gathering around watching all these major brother promos
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: and like there's no, way you know.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: WHAT i, mean or watching the TVs or What there's
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: there's no, way all.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Right so so BEST ovw.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: Story so for, me LIKE i, SAID ovw was not,
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: enjoyable partially because we did it to ourselves and we were.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Checked out and wanted to take get out of. There.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Mmm but the best part of OB w was the
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: like the partying and the camaraderie and the friendship and.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Stuff you.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: Know we befriended Kaylen, croft who's like still one of
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: my good friends this day CALLED thea was like in
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: the in a very similar were all over there like
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: the first, same first, week and.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: That's how we became like really tight with. Him you,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: know when did.
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: You guys get to know and become close With?
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Trent that's we started way.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Before that's before, okay but did it happen?
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: Again trent was at our training school and he was like,
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: seven illegally training.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Basically.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah so and then he got signed and was just
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Guys know he he gets, signed go straight to f C.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: W i.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: See, Okay, okay that's that's WHERE i.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: GOT i. DON'T i don't have many good OB w,
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: stories AS i fucking hated.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: IT i hate Like bruski said that that that.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: Count was a big thing on the, road like literally
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: like Ben wah got thrown, out thrown out live ON
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: tv when it might be one of his second to
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: last match, ever like he's shoot thrown out real life
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: ON tv ON tv the ref ends and match live ON,
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: TV a tag match made him AT vcw because that's
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: how Strick vince wanted the tag. Rules and we're doing
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: thirty five seconds and there's the disconnect four. Man we
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: know that message because we're on the road living. It
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: we come back TO o W, w We're Robert, Gibson
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: La La land but no offense to. Them he doesn't know,
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: this he doesn't know that this is one and when
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: we're trying to tell him, this, yeah we looked like
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: assholes at least twenty. Two you, know old punks are
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: Telling Robert gibson what to, do especially.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: A tag team.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: Mate but that's not like we're this is a bad
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: spot to be, in just a terrible.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Spot my FAVORITE obw memories WHEN i bought the ENTIRE
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: lja and.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Collection that WAS i still remember that. Too in our part.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: All, right, yeah that was like you know WHAT i
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: said about like Deep, south we went and like a
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: furniture and try to live. There like we purposely got
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: this apartment With brad j because we were, like we
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: are out of here as soon as we get.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Out of, it get me at. It so.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: All.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Right Jamie ogden thoughts on training With Build. DeMont i
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: mean you kind of talked about, It we really covered.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: A lot of it was LIKE i loved. IT i
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: hated it at the, time BUT i don't regret. IT
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: i don't regret it, because LIKE i, said it made us, tough,
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: right and it's one of those things THAT i WOULD
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: i would do. Again there's nobody In Deep south wrestling
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: that would have got called up to the main roster
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: would have blew up or you know What i'm, Saying, yeah.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: You never blow, up not EVEN i wasn't even on
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: the in the.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: Cards the main THING i got out of, That AND
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: i think like we were lucky to be twenty two
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: where some of these dudes were like shoot, men like legit,
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: men you know WHAT i, Mean Like Johnny swinger's there
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: like with us and These Sunny sackey these guys are grown.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: Ups so and WHEN i think of that now as
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: a wrestling, coach some of the insanely unnecessary, bumps like
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: NonStop all, day every day was just, crazy AND i
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: think we were able to do because we were just
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: so young and. DUMB i don't know how it would
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: have done it. OTHERWISE i remember.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: There was one drill that ends in like a double
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: punch or double clothesliners like.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: It like it was it was just stuff to like
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: just make the hours of the day go. By but
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: it just was so, dumb like just.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: Take a clothes, line pick them, up duck one sun to,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: flip take a, clothesline.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Like just ten. Times he's just getting drilled with these
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: clotheslines like Multi it's just.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Bizarre that doesn't make. It that doesn't make you any,
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: better and LIKE i, said you. Can't it just makes
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: the kind of makes the clock ticking in the.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: DAY i GUESS i will say that IF i had
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: to do A Deep south practice, TODAY i probably.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: DIE i don't THINK i consider myself a very good ring.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: SHORE i don't THINK i could just everything that goes INTO.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: I don't THINK i could do the warm.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: UP i don't THINK i can do the three minute
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: running the ropes with the whistle blowing and the drop.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Down have about the first.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: THING i was just thinking this when we're talking about,
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: it that dick buyer spot ends with getting drop kicked
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: ticked over the.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Top one of the first things you.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: Do first you take, it you're taking that that monkey,
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: flip the one where you're runner of the guy like
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: that like does the back roll monkey flips you and
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: then you drop kick the guy over the top. Rope
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: that's actually A Dave taylor.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: But like we did it every, day like eight, am
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: get drop kicks over the, Top like the first thing you,
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: do like the, boom the back flip to either drop
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: kick to the chest so that momentum shoots you over
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: the top.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Backwards what's the monkey?
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Flip When i'm not you know where someone does a?
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: Leap probably the like rolls Back eddie. Style jesus, right
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: that's a fucking dangerous. Bump, yeah there's the reason WHY
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: i know one does that. BUMPYN'T i haven't done that?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Since, Okay Anthony, dandria he weirded this very, weirdly but
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: he's basically asking in your times, there like on the live,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: shows what was your favorite and then maybe least favorite
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: match that you could remember my least.
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: FAVORITE i was just talking And drew About gallows When
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: Eric press faked an.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: INJURY i Love, ERIC i love you you're great At shaven,
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: next but fuck you for this.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Desk this is one of the weirdest things of all.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Times So nova is, down who is now in control
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: of developmentals.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: This way through our development at the, Time dreamer becomes
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: talent BECAUSE ecw restarts And, nova who at the time
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: As Simon, dean becomes our.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Boss so he's there like scouting right Before christmas break
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: and with this BIG i, SAY i say, big but
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: it's the main, event felt.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Big, no, no, no we're not the main. Event we're the.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Opener drew And Brotess claire supposed to get into. It
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: that creates the main, event and we're all in their.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Corner they're in our. Corner, okay we have a two
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: sag tag.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Opener it culminates in gallows And Burtus clay going into
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: it on the outside that gets thrown out and that
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: makes them the main. Event And Eric prez like just
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: decided to fake an injury without telling us the ref
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: his partner not relaying any messages and like just.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Ruin this completely ruined this match.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: Because this DAY i don't know. Why because then then
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: G rilla or you, know G, money G rilla And
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Burtus clay And Luke Gallis. Festus they start brawling because they,
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: think Like eric's really, hurt let's go to the.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: SPOT i, think just go.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: Home they brawled and they stopped like, hah and they
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: watched like the match and they look.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Stupid then they go back to brawling like it's a.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Mess it's a freaking. Mess then we get to the
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: back of everyone's going, nuts like what the fuck was
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: that all the Ship and then for some, reason.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: Like the answer, was, well, now you, Guys that's WHY
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: i was talking about With, Drew like the answer, was
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: now you guys go out there and just throw it.
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: Down and Like brotus And gallows had like AN mma
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: fight in the main, event like just wailing on each.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Other i'm like to try to like save.
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: FACE i guess it's LIKE i guess it's like kind
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: of get it because it's such a embarrassing, showing like, yeah.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Wow baby. MATCH i Think i'm not saying it just
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: because we won the tag team, titles but when we
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: win the tag team titles from Like duce And, domino
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: because it was kind of like it's kind of like,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: unexpected like all of a, sudden like they're giving us the.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Opportunity it was Like ducen And domino come down and
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: they're THE obw, champs and then they win The Deep
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: south titles and then we beat them for The Deep south,
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: titles which is kind of like out of.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Nowhere that's.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: Cool and then even prior to, THAT i think one
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: of my favorite was we like our first time gett
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: an opportunity to do like the big, shows we would
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: have A Deep south and we probably did like four
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: this whole Time we're at Six.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Flags were wrestle in front of The batman, thing which
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: was pretty.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: Cool, Yeah and the first time we ever got to
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: like really do, one we had like a twenty minute tag.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Match With Sunny siaki And Eric.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: Perez it was like the first time we got a
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: chance to like really kind of go and like see
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: where we're.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: AT i think that like propelled this big. Time AND
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: i always get props To Sunny.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: SAYAKI i think he's someone that like really us out
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: of our shell because like the Way Deep south was
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: like like LIKE i was talking about like no, punching no, Kick,
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: no it's not like all those rules like we'd be
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: calling something and like just call, something not all that
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: exciting and, sunny so can be no fuck that. Ship you,
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Know i'm FROM, tna but we ain't doing that. Shit
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: no money make us like get out of our shell
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: and be a little more. Risky i'm from you would
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: say that this one's a great. One being born and
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: raised On Long, island what was it like living down?
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: South holy? Shit what was some of the biggest cultural?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: DIFFERENCES i love it, WELL i could See brian like.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: It, NO i loved it as. Well, however, Ah, walmart
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: it's too.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: A giant, rectangle, Dude actually it's very Apparently. Gallas look
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: That shack lives in McDonald. Georgia.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Huh but like so just picture a rectangle and on that. Rectangle,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: yeah it's like the wrestling. School. AN i have our,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: apartment A, walmart A tannic, slot a, gym a.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Bar that's it and that's really like it and just
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: whatever in.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Between you did you guys ever go To atlanta like
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: hangout very, rarely.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: But some how it's, fun actually very. FUN i have fond.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Memories but it was a.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: Pain and he really like none of us could afford
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: like car, service and like we'd have to get like
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: a D d or whatever you, know.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: What about like like what about uh like cultures or
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: like people moving? Slower that was like.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Unreal everyone's polite to hold the door for.
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: YOU i fell in love with WHICH i haven't had
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: in years BECAUSE i realized it's just pure, sugar like sweet.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Tea i'll just got like a sweet tea. Everywhere it
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: was because it's just like we still got new.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: RELATIONOUS i didn't realize when you were twenty years. OLD
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: i MEAN i have.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: That my ass jiggles for a, WEEK i, LIKE.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: I, LOVED i loved like you, know this is my
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: first time living alone and you, know being, able you,
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: know to do WHATEVER i wanted to, do or spend
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: my money on WHATEVER i want to spend my money.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: On or The walmart was twenty four hours and we
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: would go our.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: MINDS i don't have those and they still don't have
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: those appen.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: Going like at midnight when the new figures have put,
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: out are LIKE dB nights before it was The tuesday
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: re release OR i mean. Release we'd go and get.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: DVDs, man this is really.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: Fun our schedule would be whatever eight, am you, know
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: get up at seven seven thirty eight, am, practice get
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: out of like noon noon, one literally eat whatever we
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: wanted because we burned seven thousand, calories it didn't. Matter
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: we'd eat whatever we wanted to pass, out shower and
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: just pass, out wake up at like five six a,
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: dinner go to this goals which actually the goals aren't.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Done it still. There it's pretty sick, golds big awesome,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: goals and then that would then go like cruise The.
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: Walmart it was a great little like schedule that we,
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: had just like on, repeat especially for two.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Kids Steve, hooker anyone you remember being in developmental with
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: you didn't think was going to make. It why everyone
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: got this, question same, Question Steve. Thornton FEW fcw questions For. Brian,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: oh we didn't even get TO, fcwm so you'd want
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: to just before we answer that question. Late you, know
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Obviously matt never gets another developmental sit. You, well, Actually,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: MATT i, MEAN i guess you're n.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Times not, really we're even going to a practic fucked,
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: yeah all, right practice.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Now you're so you tell me about THIS fcw. THING i,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: mean you've mentioned this many, times but let's just break it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Down so we win the tag team Titles hawkins And
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: rider and whatever that. Is july oh. Eight we lose Them, september.
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: And very shortly after they're, Like vince wants to split
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: you guys, up and we're like okay for what and they're,
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: like we don't. Know and then they're, like we'd come
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: TO tv and they'd be like, no next week or next.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: Time we were still working as a, team but just
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: put people over and it's killed. Whatever, finally like if
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: you can jerk around with this like for so long
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: after wrestling at twenty, five so we're talking, like oh
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: what like like six months of. This plus they have
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: a draft where he gets sent TO tcw AND i
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: stay and smacked.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Us so now we're truly. Split, yes like he And
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: brusk can correct me If i'm.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: Wrong he had this vision of being the Like guido,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: guy and he pitched it probably like that day we got.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Drafted and THEN i remember kind of having a conversation
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: with and this is the WAY i look back on.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: IT i could be just making this up my. Mind
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: the CHARACTER i, HAD i really.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: Had no, vision but the only THING i kind of
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: had was literally and ONCE i met, him like a
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: couple of weeks, LATER i, realized, like oh my, god
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: pitch this guy's exact. GAME i wanted to be Like Alex,
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: riley like the varsity villain type, style like letterman, jacket.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Like a like a, bully like you, know bully quarterback.
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: Guy but he was literally doing that and he's like
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: taller than, me more, jacked and fit the part way
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: more THAN i.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Did AND i was, like, oh, okay.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: That was like and that was like even the WAY
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: i described that was probably more in detail than WHATEVER
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: i said to the writer that asked.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Me so that.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: That coincided with not getting, travel so it was like
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: the draft that was like AT, msg So knox wrestles
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: rick your teeth in the, dark that's that, draft or
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: like it's that that's the last TIME i ever went,
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Okay and THEN i just didn't have travel, anymore AND
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: i was, like, Whoa i've been around long enough to
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: know what that.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Means like this is not.
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: Good AND i Called Johnny ason just said, HEY i,
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: know LIKE i can only write so many, emails so
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: you guys are gonna use, me and he basically told
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: me it was, nice like he, said no one thinks you.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: Suck we just don't know what to do with you
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: kind of. Thing SO i was, like, Well i'll just,
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Dude i'm like twenty. THREE i was, Like i'll just
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: move TO. FCW i, Said i'll outwork every guy you
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: got and proved to, everyone showing them WHAT i could.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: Do at Least i'll get the reps and be seen
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: in some capacity. There Like i'm just gonna get fired
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: AND i stay. Home john's, like all, right fair, enough he,
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: Goes but we're not paying you because we're not sending you, there,
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: Right so that's fine, Whatever.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: But you're getting paid to Be you're being paid your,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: downside you, know.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Because we got our downsides were so.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: Low we got most of that in one check from
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: the video, game SO i had that to like live
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: off of basically and like bet on.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Myself, right, yeah so you at least could, live, yes, live,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: yes but no money coming in.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Whatsoever but you.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Had to did you have to live kind of cheaply
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: while you were?
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: THERE i, MEAN i MEAN i Knew trent was like
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: one of my best, friends the guys we started, with
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: AND i was, LIKE i basically bullied him into getting
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: a new apartment with me because he had a one.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Bedroom and then we got like a new nice apartment
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: and that was. It we were off and. RUNNING i,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: MEAN i love it was one of the best decisions
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: of my life and really and then my own.
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: Horn but LIKE i already had a pretty good grasp
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: of like, working but from being there it working with
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: like crazy green guys like you, know Dave O tongua
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: in his third match or, whatever second, match And i'm
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: pulling them up to my.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Level it was a whole other learning.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: Experience and the real thing THAT i got AT fcw
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: that was invaluable THAT i think really saved my career
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: was working With dusty on promos and.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Stuff so he gave me that confidence THAT i absolutely
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: did not have.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Before and who's IN fcw when you're, THERE i.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: Mean, everyone everybody in The, nexus those, Guys, Trent Trent. Croft,
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: Uh that's that's how we Become.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: What's the Dude?
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: Busters The Dude busters is Really trent And nice IN nywc,
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: okay and Then trent like re used the name.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: IN, ww and then it was just you And trent
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: And croft and you and like for.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: A time IN, FCW i joined and it was like
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: a free bird style thing and we become the tag
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: champs and we worked. YOU i worked you then that's,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: true and don't, NO i think It's Rye. Back it is.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Right and at this while you're IN, fcw you have
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: my favorite match of all, time which is the first
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Ever halloween customs are legal. Match that Is Rye back
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: as a cow.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: MAN i don't know what was?
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: That what do you want to?
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Say there was a brainchild of us and like The
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: rotundo's bow And Bray.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Wyatt, okay so what is the?
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Match it's just. This i'll never forget the setup of.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: It we were feeding and the dude busters were feeding
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: with The rotundo's bow And bray yep and frigging.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: SOMETHING i can't tell you what we, did something happened.
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: Whatever and Then bray gets on the mic and he's next,
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: week we're going to settle this in a, match and he's,
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: like and guess WHAT i just talked To commissioner Dust roads.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Whatever he's, Like halloween costumes. Legal and the place goes
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: crazy and we got, no there makes no. Sense it
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: makes no, sense you. Know And i'm like of going
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: in the, match like they're all proud to be in
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: their costumes and we're all like, pissed And i'm dressed
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: up like A gecko or.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Whatever, yeah oh my, god if you guys can find this,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: match find.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: IT i don't think it. EXISTS i have THE.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Dvd oh so, yeah because you showed it to.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Us so dude that worked in the office will kind
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: of hooked me up and give me some stuff from
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: time to.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Time but, Yeah brian has made this a. TRADITION i
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: mean last, year sadly it was the first year that
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: we lost it because we didn't have A halloween. Show
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: but every year since twenty fifteen we've had A Halloween
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: costumes are legal. Match it's actually. Morphed from the first
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: couple of years it was a three way and then
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: it could be anything, really but now it's a freaking
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: royal rumble of.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Costumes it's a gomlet. Match it's so.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Good, okay so he SAYS. Scdw for questions For, brian
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: how did Becoming Dude buster number three come? About and
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: was there ever a plan for the true to be
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: called up? Together, also did he have any input on
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: his outcome theme? Song still have it on my cardio?
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Playlist great?
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: Question so that is actually The Deep south theme song
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: AND i, did but it's not our, song, No but
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: that's WHAT i used IN fcw, right but that's that's
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: Uh Team elite's. Music, okay but it's in That Deep south.
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: COMMERCIAL i don't know if you ever noticed that that
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: would air In Deep South.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Wrestling, thought, okay that's HOW i would hear more like
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: that's WHAT i always. THINK i know what you're talking.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: About it. Is it Was Mike knox Into eric Ni
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: kerks music And Deep. SOUTH i always liked.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: IT i feel like we stole THE cd AND i
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: had it like on the gym, playlist and then WHEN
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: i got there there was, like, oh there's all these generic.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: Songs i'm, like, hey how about. THIS i know you
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: guys on the right. Store CAN i just use? It
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: AND i Think kenobia was like, yeah, sure that's no.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: Problem so that's HOW i used, that just BECAUSE i
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: knew it was a cool song and nobody else, right you,
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: know it stands out when everyone's going out to themes
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: and it had my song and those lyrics and like completely.
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: Different there was NEVER i, think really what happens At
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: dusty And Doctor thomas really liked.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: It was like the natural. Friendship we were all buddies
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: of the.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: Dude blusters AND i and then like we put us
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: together in Six man's ON, tv and it just kind
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: of morphed into something just and even like cus the
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: way we would do practice and practice matches and, stuff
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: AND i think he just found it. Entertaining BUT i
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: don't think it ever crossed like THE Ww creative's desk
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: at any point got.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: It how did you And dusty become a?
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Relationship how did you guys form?
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: Them dusty actually like The Major, Brothers he's the reason
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: we got called up in the first. Place We he
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: hand picked us at deep out because he thought that
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: we reminded him of The. Malkies is what The Welki
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: brothers is what we got years. Later and we were
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: really supposed TO ecw was supposed.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: To, have like a tag division was be us and
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: then start to feel With Mike knox And Derek nykirk
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: and to whatever need just never, happened and we got
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: called up with literally nothing to.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: DO i Remember i've said this on many. PODCASTS i
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: remember talking like would lead To steve neck run about
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: how they just called this tag team, up but there's
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: no tag team, division.
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: Didn't make any, sense, Nothing and THEN i don't, Know,
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: rosky do you remember This i've been thinking about this
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: a couple of times, Lately LIKE i don't know if
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: it's before we actually, debut or like right After dusty
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: pulled us in like the promo room With. Brawler then
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: he's like he's like making us cut promos and he's,
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: like do this next one As heels and then like
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: we finished and it's.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Silent he's, like, damn somebody's got their head all fucked.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Up because y'all.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: HEALED i remember.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: That it was like very. Complimentary oh, shit you, know because.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: We did a couple live. Events so while we're In Deep,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: south you, know we have like an inklink that we
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: are gonna get called up because we would go on
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: THE ww like house show, loops.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Like two loops or.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: WHATEVER i want to say more than maybe like AND
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: i want to say at least, three because one loop
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: we work As heels against The highlanders or is that
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: just one?
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: SHOW i know you might be, right, yeah BECAUSE i
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: know we have a dark Against Cayden. MURDOCH i believe
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: it dark Against Dukesh.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Domena well there's the loop that we're not supposed to
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: be on and we're booked by accident and we ended
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: up working Just Uh, Sunny siaki And perez and there's
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: a loop against The World's greatest tag, team our first ever.
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: Loop we land AND i want to say it's something
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: like pretty far like iris oone or Something New mexico or,
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: something and we're subway, subway like literally shaking eating like,
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: subs like we're going into Ww live event to.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Perform my phone rings Is Howard. Finkel i'm like, what, oh,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: like what's, up Fak and he's, like you know what
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: happened to be In New?
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: Mexico you.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Know we're like, Yeah he's, like oh, boy and like.
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: They're suposed to cancel our tickets or, something and nobody
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: told there's a big. Miscommunication so we're, like, wow this
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: guy started off on a awesome foot and then like
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: went to the building and THEN i think they made
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: someone have a three way and we had this like
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: whack tag With Uh, Sunny saki And Air.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: Perez, yeah because our planing In Deep, south you, know in, Macdonnaugh,
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: georgia the white meat blonde babyface twin brother tag team thing,
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: worked but we knew it wouldn't work UNLIKE, Wwtv so
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: our plan during these like promo days or that we
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: were The saviors Oft Tag Team wrestling were, heels but
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: almost like so Like babyface that it was. Obnoxious oh,
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: yeah of Course Rujo brothers. Yep but then when we
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: got called UP, dcw we were just baa faces that it. Sucked,
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: yeah there's nothing.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: There David. WEST a lot of people seem to have
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: trouble adapting to the so CALLED ww, style or at
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: least go through a period of struggling to adjust when
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: joining the. Company what to, you guys is THE ww?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Style what does that?
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: MEAN i, LIKE i have a lot of theories and
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: obedience on, Us like that's to me the money making, style,
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: Right AND i think that's like what you see some
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: people maybe like ON aw there's a disconnect because there's
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: just a certain there's a difference in working. Television you
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: have there's certain tools that you have to have in
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: your tool bell and understandings that's gonna make you a better,
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: performer you, know make you come through that screen kind of,
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: thing you, know finding the, cameras getting the you, know
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: working towards them and stuff. Like it is an art
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: and it's a way you, know slowing, down you, know
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: as crazy as that sounds to, people like just so
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: you can digest what you're.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: Seeing and that to, me like whenever when someone says.
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: That W w, Style i'm to, Me i'm like, thinking,
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: yeah that's the right, Style like that's not like that's
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: the one that's.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Working yeah.
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: EXACTLY i think you're foolish to think that there's something
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: wrong with, That like that's the money making pro wrestling.
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: STYLE i hate the, uh the term of you, know
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: when the when fans, Say i'm, like they're they're bringing
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: that guy, down they're not using him to his potential
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: or you know the work rate.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Thing, well, no this is what W w knows, works
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: and so.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: They're gonna they're not gonna they're not gonna go away
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: from that if they know it.
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: Works you listen to the business, business.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: But thats more of like booking to that's different than
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: like the way you.
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: Work even like the wrestling. Style it has, evolved you
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: know from when we first at until, now and it's
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: just like the business, evolves you, know but there's certain
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: things that shouldn't, change like selling you, know it's like
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: storytelling that like you, know getting shots of like when
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: you're in an independent, match you, know after like a false,
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: finish you, know to just lay there might be, Weird
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: but if it's on, television the commentators are telling the
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: story and the cameras a getting your different, facials you
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: know That if that makes any, sense there's so much
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: more going on than just your, match.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah you're very. Right, yeah for. Sure that
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: commentary thing is something That i've figured out very, recently
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: and ACTUALLY i had to be a commentator to realize.
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: That right When i'm commentating my main THINGS i tell
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: students all the, TIME i despise And i've said this
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: some maytimes to my, guys do not go out and
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: wrestle like every person's building a senior YouTube video that
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: did about this.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: Match that's very.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Foolish oh, yeah.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: It's almost like you have to wrestle like they've never
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: heard of you were seeing you?
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: Before, literally, right tell that story because then you're appealing
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: to the. Masses THAT'S ww style whatever you, know.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: You Ring, Mulligan was there anybody with you in developmental
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: who you thought was going to be a huge?
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: Star but are you like appropriating these? Questions what's going?
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: ON i just read it because it's funny that people
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: have asked that.
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: QUESTION i, Mean I'M i remember Meeting Tyler rex AND
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: fw anything like this guy's going to take see a
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: spot that that's like the like the look he had
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: at that, time like just oh yeah.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah dreadlocks LIKE i was.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: Tall it was like holy, yeah like this guy let
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Me you, KNOW i Thought Dan roodeimer was going to
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: be a huge.
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: Star, yeah that's one of those that's like forgotten.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: About, YEAH.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: I should you? Not Jeremy, ivans which wrestler during your time?
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Developmental did you think was going to be a mega?
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: Star different? One?
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Uh Jacob duncan Impossible WrestleMania. Ement, okay you See ricky.
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: We were Told Bruce richard came down Saw Ricky ortiz
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: AND ovw and said to the whole group that he
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: was A WrestleMania moment waiting to.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: Happen What, Yeah i'll never forget. That we're talking Like Afro,
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: atlas The ricky or.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Swag, crap but people in the. Spot Brian, cope did
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: you ever have to learn to? Blade if, so who taught?
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: You were you? Scared? Excited how did it?
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: Feel Mike wreck taught us that before we even got,
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: signed AND i never to this DAY i have had
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: to do.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: IT i never had to put in. HEARTBEAT i just
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: think it's gotta be the right, place right. Time.
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: YEAH i had that barber match With Kevin matthews and
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: we both, decided, like you, know one of us could do,
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: it but not both because that's just like in bad
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: TASTE i think.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Nowadays and he was, Like i'll do. It you, Know
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: i'm already gonna shoot bleed from the.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: Barbarer, anyways In Deep South, ones there's two blood incidents
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: THAT i can. Recall. ONE i don't know If i'm Working.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: Brian i'm working somebody in like a practice, match AND
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: i go to do like the big Like billy guns stinger.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: Splash not me BECAUSE i remember watching it and being like,
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: whoa AND i like hit the pole legit and fall
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: out of the.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Ring does the stinger? Splash hits his forehead on the,
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: pole sticking Up kristen's first practice, shoot flips out of
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: the ring and we're all on this, like, uh bleacher
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: sore where the like hardcam side or, whatever and he
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: goes backsides and now you can't see him. Completely i'm not.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Kidding he comes Up Vince WrestleMania, style.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: Like that's SOMETHING i wish was on. Television was in
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: practice another blood. Story this is like when like this
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: is not The bill, era this Is Doctor tom fun.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: Era for some, REASON i feel like Dar tom's not
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: there and like we're running our own, practice if that makes.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Sense and it's this giant Like survivor And i'll protect
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: the innocent.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: Or it's like this Giant survivor series style like elimination,
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: match and LIKE i get, eliminated and THEN i want
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: to come in and Hit brian with a. Chair SO
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: i grab one of those like pay per view chairs
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: and had like a little bit of the, padding but
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: it's not quite, padded you know What i'm, saying, yep,
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: Right AND i go to swinging At, brian and the
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: last second he like Pulls Melissa coats in, front AND
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: i try to pull the chair But i'm like mid
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: swing BUT i can't quite pull it, enough AND i nail.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Her in the head and it's still legend.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: Still like the petted, side but then like she had
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: these like corn rows or, dreadlocks and then like it
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: just knocked in the spot. Hair she's covered in, blood
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: covered in, blood bleached blonde hair.
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: Looked like are you fucking getting may are you fucking
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: getting may like screaming at.
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: THAT i thought LIKE i was getting it five for
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: hitting a. Woman and then she's not.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: Signed. Uh she went to the.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: Er, YEAH i guess it costs five hundred bucks or,
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: whatever and she got like super glued or whatever they,
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: did medical, glue and then she would learn to be
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: Like Brett.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Major only five hundred Dollars brett every.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: Day AND i SAID i would give it to, her
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: and then she came to my house to collect. It
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: but she brought she brought her. Insurance she brought her insurance,
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: policy her muscle in the form of former W cw Star.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: Kweewee to this, day we've never.
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: Met we just saw from a distance he was leaning
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: on the car and she got out of the car
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: and he just handed her over to.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: The five hundred bucks to stop asking About.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Oh my, YEAH i don't know if you can get anywhere.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: That it's a wild.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Story let's rapid fire. Here did you ever work With Jim?
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Cornett if, so what was he?
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: No, NO i Met Jim cornett wrestling In atlanta AND
• 59:18
  Speaker 6: i Dropped cabano off at R h AND i was
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: like just partying mc gallows basically BECAUSE i had like
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: no responsibilities AND i met him briefly, there shook his
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: hands at a low and that was.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: It Brian, LYONS i know we hear the names you
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: spread through a lot of, stories but can you list
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: some of the people in developmental uh with you if
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: we might know them by a different? Gimmick?
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Now not?
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Really, YEAH i mean you kind of you kind of mentioned.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Everybody Jeremy, conrad what was your first big figure purchase
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: when you hit Developmental.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: Less is the legendary one or did you grab something
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: to sound jealous at the time of this and as
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: it goes, on that.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: Wasn't when we firstly developmental that's like a year in
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: it's like we finally get like me roster money AND
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: i want to buy This El jaane. Collection, YEAH i
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: want to feel LIKE i want.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: To, say because we're just slowly getting stuff as We're.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: The biggest thing was like when we found that elimination,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: CHAMBER i feel like held the.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: CELL i mean like we were just LIKE i think
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: we've said this, before but, Whatever like on days, off
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: we would map quest directions from like one toys rest
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: of the other and spend like four or five hours
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: like just all, afternoon like HOPPINGTO, kbs into In walmarts
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: and whatever we could find like in the area because
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: we didn't know the. Area you, Know we're just googling
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: and trying to figure it, out and we would set
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: up like an entire like. Day it just quests, basically
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: you know, what.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Would you guys hide your figure stuff from the.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: DUDE i have a vivid memory of this one of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: our first like months, There we're At walmart like late at,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: night like, midnight like we say we used to do
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: because we loved it because it would reopen that late
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: and we weren't used to. That In series, Two Deluxe
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: aggression had just dropped and we were like scooping through
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: them AND i Had cane like the bald came And i'm,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: like we're shopping in The walmart AND i hear a voice,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: like hey, guys it Was Mike, knox AND i throw
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: it like a frisbee and spin around like so like
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: it was nowhere near, me LIKE i was holding his
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: cane figure AND i didn't want to.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: KNOW i was, like oh my, god, yeah like just
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: chuck it up my color like like he didn't like
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: see that's WHAT i was. DOING i was buying a.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Figure oh my.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: GOD i think that's one of THE i could be
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: wrong about this and rosting me and rosting my back me.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: UP i think that's one of our icebreakers With cone
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: because we caught him buying A Harley Race classic and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: that's who Like cone like came up with and he
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: like kind of explained. That, YEAH i want to, say
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: we caught him like A walmart buying. That now it's
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: like like something that like broke the ice with.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: Us and oh, yeah we definitely weren't hiding it because
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: we were, very very social with the majority of the people.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: And this was like EARLY i want the toughest.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: Guy oh, yeah but like at one, POINT i have
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: all The Jack's rockies like hanging up on my, wall
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: so like it couldn't have been that.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: Hidden, Yeah but we had another thing we did THAT
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: i always pride myself.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: On we would order EVERY tna pay per view and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: have everyone over for it because it was just like
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: a fun like camaraderie thing to. Do, yeah, Yeah, Wednesdays, No,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: no the real like The, Bangers LIKE i remember we
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: watched what is that? One we're Staying, finally as the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: singles Of jarret and he's got no top and he
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: fires up AND i remember just watching.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: That like drunk and everyone was like having the best.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: Time it's like it's Like lado six maybe like go
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: Six bound For glory or something that's.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Cool this is a cool wrestling One Challenge. Mania are
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: there practices and training tropes that you guys dealt with
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: back then that have since gone by out of style or?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Whatever any training taxic tactics like do, this don't do.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: THAT i.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: DON'T i don't think anyone is criss crossing while people
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: are standing and doing squats.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: In The MICHAEL a lot of The south. STUFF i
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: look back and like it.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: Just was imagine like doing squats in the top.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: ROPE i KNOW czw Doesn't someone's hitting AND i and some.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Of IT i kind of understand as a.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: Coach sometimes like all you can show up the cap
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: AND i can honestly admit Like i'm, fried Like i'm
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: LIKE i.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Don't know what to.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: Do but other Times i'm very, motivated LIKE i have
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: this most of the, TIME i should Say i'm, Like,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: okay this is my game, plan is WHAT i want
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: to do.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: Today but if you had to do that five days
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: a week or. Whatever, OH i know that real.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: Quick so a lot of the, stuff looking back on
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: it Deep, south there's literally just stuff to make the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: fucking clock, tick like make the day.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: Go, by, right.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: What about Like, brian you've talked about this a, lot
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: like kind of like the stuff that you were you
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: were trained to Like borski's talking, about like this style
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: doesn't work, Here you've got to watch out for the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: five count et. Cetera but like something you told, US
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: i remember specifically learning for like how to do a
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: great blind tag where the ref doesn't, see and then
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: one day you were just, like, no that does not
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: a thing. Anymore you cannot do a blind tag in a.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: Mag it's just got to be like perfect where like
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: the ref doesn't look like a dumb.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Ass, yeah But i'm, saying do you, remember like, LORDAL i.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: Hate when the hells go oh, wait like, wait so
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: he has.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: Us all these other things are, cheating but that one
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: spot the ref Goes, Okay i'll take your word.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: For, it bad, guy that's, Fine like that doesn't make,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: Sense like sometimes like things that a.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: Right SOMETHING i will, say AND i, admit what's old is,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: New but sometimes what's old is, old and there's a
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: reason why it's. Old BUT i will Say Jody, hamilton
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: he taught. ME i would say EVERYTHING i knew about
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: tag team, wrestling WHICH i still don't think is applied,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: Today like the concept of a tag team match that
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: two guys should should take the other ponent and keep
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: them in their, corner away from their, partner and it
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: should be the story of the. Match he's gotta, Closer
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: he's getting, closer he's any, closer not just like shooting
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: them off to like your your partner saw you know
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: What i'm. Saying it's like THERE'S i don't.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: Know it's like little shitty disconnect things like.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: That, Like BUT i also think that, yes that there
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: has To it's it's twenty twenty. One there has to
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: be more exciting. Stuff there has to be faster. Action
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: there has to be like bigger. Moves BUT i still
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: think that the storytelling and the psychology can be there
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: with those cool.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Moves mm.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: Hmm if that makes, sense why can't it be both?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Who all, right let's finish this. Up we're almost home.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Here we got a lot of questions, still this has
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: been a great. PODCAST i really enjoy hearing. Here guys'.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Story by the, way next month we will move. Forward
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about the early days on the, Roster we'll
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: talk ABOUT ecw and then going into the. Edgeheads we've
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: talked about that a, lot but you, know ask your specific.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Questions also we can do a little bit follow up
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: to maybe because THERE'S i have questions in my head
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: more about your time. There so, Anyways Jack, hodson let's
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: finish up. Here who in developmental that you worked with
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: ended up getting their own. Figures let's talk about.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: Like great figures FOR i think the First striker is
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: the first because while we're, THERE i got well he
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Was stiger was like my favorite indie wrestler BECAUSE i
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: would see him as a kid on indie shows AND
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: i watched him get signed like it felt LIKE i was.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: A part of, that you, know not THAT i did
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: a college project on that strike his whole scandal about how.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: How he screwed The New york and he was always
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: he would always like time to like whether it was
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: ball busting or what he would like talk to, me
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: and he KNEW i wanted to be a wrestler and
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: Stuff shreker.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: Gave me and my high school girlfriend in front of.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: Me he still talks about this DAY i got an indie.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: Show BUT i remember getting that figure and having him
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: sign up for me AND i still have.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: It In Deep, SOUTH.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: I, mean so many people got, FIGURES.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: I mean just just getting you, know who doesn't have
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: a figure or.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: Not bill heard me like figures and we just started
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: talking to. Him he's, LIKE i got that W w
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: one and we're, like he's like one where like you.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: DON'T i don't, Know LIKE i think he just thought
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 6: we were casual guys who pulling past, us and we're,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: like he don't have.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: One BUT i can't believe he doesn't have a.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: Classic But i'm surprised he didn't get.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: One huh. Uh, yeah what about? Incarnation your favorite figure
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: from your from Developmental? Friends maybe That Rematia Kofee. Fastus,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: yeah that's.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: TRUE i actually think The Ray gordy who Was jesse
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: is like an incredible likeness on that.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: FIGURE i agree that head skin. Smile did he get
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: a red end of?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: Yellow?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah Ray, gordy we haven't really talked about. Much
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: he was a great. Dude he invited us to his
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: wedding after knowing its for like three. Weeks we've got
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: to Mention.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Heath we meet in uh, oh all, right let's finish
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: it up with the heat with a little bit Of heath.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: Talk he's Someone i'll say. This i'll Say heath to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: someone WHO i didn't think was gonna make it and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: did really because when he, came he was, unsigned.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Unsigned he would come new jobs and and and like you're, like,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: hell low out. Better he that looked like because mom made, it.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: It's merita that it's a maritime AND i bet.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: If he was, here he'd say it Was dusty AND
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: fcw and he which is crazy because he so cares
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: my literally could not cut a promo to save his.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: LIFE i mean like, nothing, really he literally devised this one,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: Day like you REMEMBER i said that sixty seconds. Hard
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: he went in there and he was like he did
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: a prom where he was like pondering for fifty five,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: seconds like going through different like hands on, hips like
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: where he's thinking.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah and he goes It's Miller Tom bibry and then
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: walked out like just because he couldn't do, It like
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: that's like his way of getting out of.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: It. Yeah but But heath was one of those Guys
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: i'm trying to think. Like, also Like fandango was someone
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: who came unsigned because when, no yeah.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: He, came he would come and do jobs and some
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: we befriended him.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: And then got signed To dango got. Signed heath got,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: Signed Robert anthony was. There there's a lot of. Guys you,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: know he's someone WHO i thought would have like really
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: he just got LIKE i thought him And fandaga were
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: gonna make as a. TEAM i didn't.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: Sure those are two guys that really are like from initially,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: me then they became like, big big stars compared to.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: WHAT i ever.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: Thought, Yeah fangle and he not THAT i, MEAN i love.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Them as dudes and, stuff BUT i have this.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Memory it's hard that star.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: Quality where you're there doing a two minute jobs of
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: a freaking. Deacon that's What i'm.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: Saying so they came. Unsigned they were not put in
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: the position to be.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Showcased, yes, yeah especially he's with Bad year And pale and, yeah.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: Oh here's Someone, okay here's SOMEONE i thought was going
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: to be a star and. Wasn't Crew jones.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: WHERE i Think broski stole a lot of stuff from this.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: Guy but He Crew jones was jacked tan and he
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: hit the one legged, tights AND i will admit that's
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: WHERE i stole the one legged. Tights, Wow and he
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: would go, Yeah.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: AND i think kind OF.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: I would love if he, could if maybe he was
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: the live get it back in one lego tights was
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: one leg of.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Tights i'm Sure alice could track him down In georgia.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Somewhere he was just. JACKED i remember that was like
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: he was someone that we'd be around And i'd be, like,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: well you're just. Children this is a. Man he was so.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Jacked speaking of blood, there do you think with f
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: W F live coming? Up think with maybe that street,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: fight there'll be some, blood maybe some blood in that main.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: Event it's very. Possible i'm not gigging if that's what you.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: Mean no you're, not no hard way then oh hell.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: NO i think this needs a part.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: Tour, yeah we feel like we Didn't we didn't feel
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: like we didn't even scratch they.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: HAVE i have more questions.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: Myself, yeah let's do a part two on developmental for next.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Month all, right And I'm i'm And i'm leading the
• 1:10:23
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