Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / The Mega Edition: The Nadia Marcinkova Question (8/1/26)
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm
- 0:04Speaker 1: your host Bobby Capucci, and this is a morning update
- 0:10Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and the Core Four. If it wasn't for
- 0:16Speaker 1: these women that were working below him and Gilain Maxwell,
- 0:20Speaker 1: this operation could have never been what it was. And
- 0:26Speaker 1: all of these women are protected under the non prosecution agreement.
- 0:33Speaker 1: We're talking about Sarah Kelln Vickers, We're talking about Adriana Ross,
- 0:39Speaker 1: We're talking about Leslie Groff, and we're talking about the
- 0:43Speaker 1: subject of today's article, Nadia Marsonkova. Now, of all of
- 0:49Speaker 1: the Core four members, Nadio Marsonkova is the one that
- 0:54Speaker 1: has the most unique story. In my opinion, she was
- 0:58Speaker 1: supposedly purchased by jeff Free Epstein, groomed into his sex slave,
- 1:04Speaker 1: and then in turn she became one of the Core Four,
- 1:08Speaker 1: one of the recruiters, and in fact an abuser herself. Now,
- 1:15Speaker 1: I think her circumstances are a bit different from the
- 1:18Speaker 1: other girls, considering how she came into Jeffrey Epstein's atmosphere.
- 1:23Speaker 1: But at the same time, that doesn't mean that you
- 1:27Speaker 1: don't get punished for what you have done, especially considering
- 1:31Speaker 1: that Nadil marson Kova stayed so loyal to Jeffrey Epstein
- 1:36Speaker 1: after his death. Now, of course, I don't want to
- 1:39Speaker 1: be too critical of somebody who was groomed from the
- 1:43Speaker 1: age of fourteen for this lifestyle, right. I'm not capable
- 1:47Speaker 1: of looking at a situation like this and knowing the psychology.
- 1:51Speaker 1: I'm not a psychologist and I won't even attempt to
- 1:53Speaker 1: play one. All I can do is offer my opinion
- 1:57Speaker 1: in this situation, and my opinion is if nati On
- 2:00Speaker 1: Marsonkova does not play ball with prosecution going forward, then
- 2:06Speaker 1: she should be up for the same penalties that the
- 2:10Speaker 1: other members of the Corps four are inevitably going to
- 2:14Speaker 1: get slapped with. If Marsionkova cooperates against the other members
- 2:19Speaker 1: of the Core four and Gilain Maxwell, perhaps there can
- 2:23Speaker 1: be a discussion about her getting a bit lighter of
- 2:27Speaker 1: a sentence. She still has to go to prison, obviously,
- 2:30Speaker 1: but a lighter of a sentence might be something in
- 2:33Speaker 1: the cards for marsion Kova considering her circumstances. So it's
- 2:40Speaker 1: a tough situation right with her. I mean, obviously she
- 2:43Speaker 1: has to pay the price for what she has done,
- 2:47Speaker 1: but we have to be considerate of the circumstances that
- 2:50Speaker 1: led there. So let's jump into this article from the
- 2:54Speaker 1: Daily Mail and let's see what they think about Nadia
- 2:57Speaker 1: on Marsonkova. This article Daily Mail headline the model who
- 3:03Speaker 1: flew into the Abyss. They look so innocent, but behind
- 3:07Speaker 1: these new pictures from Jeffrey Epstein's Pedophile Island like dark
- 3:11Speaker 1: claims about the beautiful pilot said to be his accomplice.
- 3:15Speaker 1: So asked Tom Leonard, was she abused or an abuser?
- 3:21Speaker 1: And the author of this piece is Tom Leonard, And
- 3:24Speaker 1: that most certainly is the question at hand. Right, we've
- 3:27Speaker 1: been debating this but between ourselves for how long now.
- 3:30Speaker 1: I know that myself and Lisa and Jen from The
- 3:34Speaker 1: Prince in the Pervert podcast have spoken privately about this,
- 3:37Speaker 1: and it's one of those tough situations, right. I am
- 3:40Speaker 1: certainly not a psychologist. Hell I can't even figure out
- 3:43Speaker 1: what's wrong with my own brain, never mind trying to
- 3:45Speaker 1: look into somebody else's life and figure out what's wrong
- 3:48Speaker 1: with them. But the fact of the matter is, even
- 3:52Speaker 1: though she was groomed from a young age, she has
- 3:55Speaker 1: had ample chances to come forward since Epstein's death, and
- 3:59Speaker 1: she has not done, so that is on public record anyway,
- 4:03Speaker 1: Perhaps she's working with authorities behind the scenes, but it's
- 4:07Speaker 1: a real big black eye for her not coming forward
- 4:11Speaker 1: in you know, within the wake of Epstein's death. Epstein
- 4:14Speaker 1: can't hurt her anymore. There's nothing he can do to
- 4:16Speaker 1: her anymore. So if she's staying quiet now, it is
- 4:20Speaker 1: because she was complicit and she is that loyal to
- 4:24Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. She has that bought in to Jeffrey Epstein
- 4:28Speaker 1: that she's never ever going to give up any information.
- 4:33Speaker 1: And I'm not sure which way it's going to go right,
- 4:36Speaker 1: but most certainly I can tell you this, she needs
- 4:39Speaker 1: to be indicted and then the court needs to figure
- 4:41Speaker 1: it out. A hike through the woods and a pair
- 4:46Speaker 1: of friends sitting at a table in the Caribbean sun,
- 4:50Speaker 1: it all seems perfectly innocent, although the only man in
- 4:53Speaker 1: the photos surrounded as ever by attractive young women is
- 4:57Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. And as we now know, nothing to do
- 5:02Speaker 1: with Epstein was ever innocent. That is for sure, nothing
- 5:06Speaker 1: this guy ever did was innocent. Everything he did or
- 5:10Speaker 1: was involved in was a calculated plot to increase his
- 5:13Speaker 1: own power and his own standing for the towering blonde
- 5:18Speaker 1: in these newly unearthed pictures is Slovak former model Nadia
- 5:22Speaker 1: marson Kova, now a glamorous jet pilot with her own
- 5:26Speaker 1: aviation company, but once allegedly one of the billionaire pedophile's
- 5:31Speaker 1: most depraved Alkalites. And it's true, right, Nadia Marsenkova was
- 5:37Speaker 1: involved in some heavy shit. She was engaged in sexual
- 5:41Speaker 1: acts with the girls at Jeffrey Epstein's behest while he
- 5:44Speaker 1: took pictures and videotaped all sorts of stuff. But again,
- 5:50Speaker 1: I want to throw the book at this lady, right,
- 5:52Speaker 1: I want her in prison for the rest of her life,
- 5:55Speaker 1: But I'm trying to be cognizant of what led her there.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Before before I started researching this case, I would have
- 6:02Speaker 1: been throw her underneath the prison, no key, no anything.
- 6:06Speaker 1: But it's much more nuanced than that. Right, There's a
- 6:08Speaker 1: lot that goes into situations like this, and for us
- 6:13Speaker 1: giving a layman's a layman's opinion on the situation is fine, Right,
- 6:19Speaker 1: this is a big case. Everybody's entitled to their opinions.
- 6:21Speaker 1: That's all we have pretty much at this point. But
- 6:24Speaker 1: I just don't I don't know. It's one of those
- 6:26Speaker 1: tough situations. Often, the teenage girls who ministered to the
- 6:33Speaker 1: twisted needs of Epstein at his Palm Beach mansion found
- 6:36Speaker 1: they weren't always alone with him. Sometimes, they told police,
- 6:40Speaker 1: they were joined by an Eastern European they believed to
- 6:43Speaker 1: be his girlfriend. Epstein would allegedly pay the girls to
- 6:47Speaker 1: have sex with marson Kova while he watched and took
- 6:50Speaker 1: photos that he later displayed around the house. And this
- 6:54Speaker 1: again calls into question all of the people who would
- 6:58Speaker 1: go to Epstein's house and then act like they didn't
- 7:01Speaker 1: think anything was out of place or weird. Bitch, if
- 7:06Speaker 1: there's pictures of him with all these girls on the
- 7:08Speaker 1: walls and displayed prominently throughout the house, how are you
- 7:11Speaker 1: gonna tell me that you don't think anything is weird?
- 7:14Speaker 1: Shut up. At other times, they said marten Kova, then
- 7:20Speaker 1: aged around nineteen, would pressure them to have sex with
- 7:23Speaker 1: her and the billionaire pedophile, sometimes in Orgies. British accuser
- 7:28Speaker 1: Sarah Ransom said she once had sex with Marsenkova and
- 7:32Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's high powered lawyer in New York, although
- 7:37Speaker 1: he denies it. And again there's another reference to dirty
- 7:42Speaker 1: dirsh Mister I kept my underpants on the legend of
- 7:45Speaker 1: the Martha Vineyards Naked Volleyball Championship League. How many times
- 7:51Speaker 1: is this idiot going to be referenced? How many times
- 7:54Speaker 1: are girls going to talk about Alan Dershowitz and his involvement. Oh,
- 8:00Speaker 1: we know that dirshy old dirshe Dirsh is going to
- 8:03Speaker 1: make himself the victim like usual. Oh we know he's
- 8:05Speaker 1: going to sue like a maniac. But the fact remains,
- 8:09Speaker 1: you're old, scraggly, wrinkley ass has not answered one single question.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Epstein reportedly told some of his survivors marsen Kova was
- 8:23Speaker 1: his sex slave after he had bought her, age fourteen,
- 8:27Speaker 1: from her parents in Eastern Europe. So there's the rub, right.
- 8:31Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone who has compassion for a
- 8:35Speaker 1: situation like this and people in a situation like this
- 8:38Speaker 1: can't be torn about marsen Kova. Of course we want
- 8:42Speaker 1: her punished, but at the same time, I feel super
- 8:45Speaker 1: bad about a kid who is sold to someone like
- 8:47Speaker 1: Epstein at fourteen years old. That has to be one
- 8:51Speaker 1: traumatizing experience. So again, I think that this is a
- 8:58Speaker 1: situation where we need to have the courts figure this
- 9:01Speaker 1: out big time. Of course, we can speculate about it,
- 9:04Speaker 1: we can all have our opinions about it. That's what's happened.
- 9:06Speaker 1: That's what happens in cases like this. Like I always say,
- 9:09Speaker 1: when we're here on the podcast together, it's like we're
- 9:12Speaker 1: all at work around the water cooler shooting the shit.
- 9:16Speaker 1: And Marsenkova, it's a very hot button issue with a
- 9:22Speaker 1: lot of people who cover this case. People are really
- 9:25Speaker 1: torn about it. She certainly showed a slavish devotion when
- 9:31Speaker 1: she visited him sixty seven times during the year. He's
- 9:34Speaker 1: spent behind bars in Florida in two thousand and eight
- 9:37Speaker 1: for procuring a minor for prostitution. And again, Marsenkova cannot
- 9:44Speaker 1: just be let off by her circumstances, right, That's not
- 9:47Speaker 1: definitely not what I'm talking about. She has to face
- 9:50Speaker 1: some criminal penalty here because the girls that she abused, well,
- 9:57Speaker 1: they have to get their justice, and if Marsenkova was
- 10:01Speaker 1: involved in that abuse, then she has to pay the price.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Marson Cova, now thirty four year old pilot calling herself
- 10:12Speaker 1: Global girl on social media, has once more been dragged
- 10:16Speaker 1: into the Epstein scandal. After the new photographs taken on
- 10:19Speaker 1: his private island were revealed. Also in the spotlight is
- 10:23Speaker 1: Sarah Kellen, another of Epstein's young female female Alkalites and
- 10:28Speaker 1: the alleged deputy to Gilaine Maxwell, currently remanded in custody
- 10:32Speaker 1: in a New York jail, accused of recruiting girls as
- 10:36Speaker 1: young as fourteen for him. Now. Sarah Kellen, on the
- 10:39Speaker 1: other hand, I think that she should be treated exactly
- 10:42Speaker 1: like Gilayne Maxwell. I'm not even bullshitting about that. I
- 10:46Speaker 1: think that she should have her house raided, her door
- 10:48Speaker 1: kicked in, she should be dragged out like the criminal
- 10:52Speaker 1: that I think that she is, and she should face
- 10:55Speaker 1: trial for what she has done. This lady, Sarah Kellen
- 10:58Speaker 1: Vickers has been able to dip, duck and dodge away
- 11:02Speaker 1: from the spotlight for way too long. She's living that
- 11:05Speaker 1: high life, right, still live in that high life, married
- 11:08Speaker 1: to her ex NASCAR husband Brian Vickers, who is also
- 11:13Speaker 1: a partner at Crown Predator Holdings. Pretty ironic name, right,
- 11:19Speaker 1: and she is absolutely one of the worst people in
- 11:23Speaker 1: this whole entire situation in my opinion. Kellen and marson Kova,
- 11:30Speaker 1: both of whom have changed their names since the scandal
- 11:32Speaker 1: Broke are assumed to be among the next targets of
- 11:35Speaker 1: New York prosecutors, who have been assured by dozens of
- 11:38Speaker 1: Epstein's survivors that he certainly didn't act alone in his
- 11:42Speaker 1: sex crimes. US Attorney General William Barr has warned his
- 11:46Speaker 1: alleged accomplices they should not rest easy, and I think
- 11:50Speaker 1: this is a tell in the article here right they
- 11:52Speaker 1: are definitely the next targets of the prosecution. In my opinion,
- 11:57Speaker 1: the Core four better not be sleeping comfortable, because it's coming.
- 12:02Speaker 1: The more articles you see, the more you hear people
- 12:05Speaker 1: talking about these girls, the quicker prosecutors are going to
- 12:10Speaker 1: round them up and bring them in. I mean, I
- 12:12Speaker 1: don't have any inside information here about what I'm about
- 12:16Speaker 1: to say, but in my opinion, there is no way
- 12:21Speaker 1: that all of these girls do not have sealed indictments
- 12:24Speaker 1: with that grand jury right now. In my opinion, the
- 12:28Speaker 1: Jerry is going to return a bunch of indictments and
- 12:32Speaker 1: we will see all the members of the Core Four
- 12:34Speaker 1: at the very least get indicted for their role in
- 12:38Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's criminal enterprise. Mars and Cova long ago established
- 12:45Speaker 1: herself as one of Epstein's most devoted female followers. They're
- 12:50Speaker 1: very close and Epstein insider told a local newspaper when
- 12:54Speaker 1: marson Kova bombarded him with visits in his Florida prison
- 12:57Speaker 1: twelve years ago, she went mostly on weekends. I guess
- 13:01Speaker 1: you can call her his squeeze. Prison officials said the
- 13:04Speaker 1: visits were monitored and there was no alone time. Yeah, okay,
- 13:08Speaker 1: they do such a good job of monitoring prisoners, right.
- 13:11Speaker 1: And Jeffrey Epstein, there's no way that he could have
- 13:14Speaker 1: had any alone time with marton Coova. Please give me
- 13:18Speaker 1: a break. Martonkova was certainly close to Epstein, according to
- 13:23Speaker 1: a witness who was there when the newly uncovered undated
- 13:26Speaker 1: photos were taken. They show Marsenkova hiking with Epstein and
- 13:31Speaker 1: sitting beside him as draped in a dressing gown. He
- 13:35Speaker 1: conducts business at his estate on Little Saint James in
- 13:38Speaker 1: the US Virgin Islands. Conducts business Huh yeah, you mean
- 13:43Speaker 1: money laundering, hiding some dough somewhere, washing some money for
- 13:46Speaker 1: one of his boys, one of his gangster ass bangster homies.
- 13:52Speaker 1: The insider said, Nadia and Jeffrey seemed to really love
- 13:55Speaker 1: each other. It was as if they had a romantic relationship.
- 13:59Speaker 1: They were affectionate to each other, often holding hands. Yeah, well,
- 14:03Speaker 1: I don't doubt it. Jeffrey Epstein had to hold over
- 14:06Speaker 1: all of these people for whatever reason. He was like
- 14:09Speaker 1: their guru. He was their guru, and they believed in
- 14:13Speaker 1: everything he was about. Not merely because she towered over
- 14:18Speaker 1: all the others, including the undersized Epstein, Marsenkova always stood
- 14:23Speaker 1: out as the most fascinating and disturbing of the financier
- 14:27Speaker 1: pedophiles alleged female accomplices, except perhaps Maxwell herself. And I
- 14:34Speaker 1: don't know about the most interesting of the accomplices, right,
- 14:37Speaker 1: but the most heartbreaking story, the most heart wrenching story
- 14:42Speaker 1: sold at fourteen years old. I can't even imagine what
- 14:45Speaker 1: that would be like. But again, that doesn't give you
- 14:52Speaker 1: the leeway to go about and abuse people in turn.
- 14:56Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but that does not give you cover to
- 15:00Speaker 1: do that. For if the claims are true about how
- 15:04Speaker 1: she came into his perverted orbit, they bear out allegations
- 15:07Speaker 1: that Epstein was involved in an international sex trafficking ring,
- 15:11Speaker 1: which brought young girls from poor countries to the US
- 15:15Speaker 1: under the guise of recruiting them as models and now
- 15:19Speaker 1: again speculation on my part, But what role did John
- 15:23Speaker 1: Luke Brunel play in bringing Nadia Marsenkova to America. We
- 15:28Speaker 1: know about the other girls he sent over to Jeffrey Epstein,
- 15:30Speaker 1: the Russians, the French girls. Why would we think that
- 15:35Speaker 1: Jean Luke Brunel was not involved in the bringing of
- 15:38Speaker 1: Marsenkova to Jeffrey Epstein. I think that it's something worth exploring. Marsonkova,
- 15:50Speaker 1: who has changed your name to Marsinko, has steadfastly refused
- 15:54Speaker 1: to comment on Epstein or the claims against him. See,
- 15:58Speaker 1: and that's where the problem lies for me. That's where
- 16:01Speaker 1: I lose all compassion I have for her, or empathy
- 16:04Speaker 1: I have for her situation that letter here, and say
- 16:07Speaker 1: to myself, well, she's made her choice, she's decided who
- 16:11Speaker 1: she's going to defend till the very end, so she
- 16:15Speaker 1: has to be treated like the other Core four. However,
- 16:20Speaker 1: she insists she was a victim of Epstein, and her
- 16:22Speaker 1: lawyers yesterday told the Mail Nadio wishes to express her
- 16:26Speaker 1: compassion and support for her fellow survivors who also fell
- 16:31Speaker 1: prey to Jeffrey Epstein's predatory abusive behavior. Yeah, I don't
- 16:35Speaker 1: think that that statement there is going to sit well
- 16:37Speaker 1: with a lot of the survivors. Now, obviously I don't
- 16:40Speaker 1: speak for anybody but myself. Like I always say, you know,
- 16:44Speaker 1: me and my beard, we come as a package deal
- 16:46Speaker 1: and it's just us, nobody else. But I highly doubt
- 16:49Speaker 1: that the survivors are going to take kindly to marson
- 16:53Speaker 1: Kova trying to put herself in their realm as a survivor.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Considering marsen Kova was involved in some of their abuse,
- 17:03Speaker 1: any claim by her to have been a complete innocent
- 17:06Speaker 1: is contradicted by many, not least US prosecutors. They named her,
- 17:12Speaker 1: Kellen and two other young female Epstein associates as potential
- 17:16Speaker 1: co conspirators who were granted immunity from prosecution for past
- 17:21Speaker 1: crimes under a controversial two thousand and seven deal that
- 17:25Speaker 1: saw Epstein serve just a year in prison. And you see, folks,
- 17:30Speaker 1: here's what I talk about when I say here on
- 17:32Speaker 1: this podcast, we stick to the people who have been
- 17:34Speaker 1: named in these court documents for the most part. Now,
- 17:37Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, we talk about some of the
- 17:39Speaker 1: enablers as well. But people make a lot of big
- 17:42Speaker 1: leaps in this case, and I think it doesn't do
- 17:45Speaker 1: the case or the survivors any good. When people are
- 17:49Speaker 1: out in La Lahland here, all of this stuff we're
- 17:52Speaker 1: talking about is documented by the survivors or witnesses or
- 17:58Speaker 1: people who were involved, and I think that that's what
- 18:01Speaker 1: we should stick to when we're covering this case if
- 18:04Speaker 1: we want to see it pursued correctly. Because I'll tell
- 18:09Speaker 1: you what, there is a lot of disinformation out there
- 18:13Speaker 1: right now, and there are a lot of people coming
- 18:16Speaker 1: out of the woodwork who all of a sudden seem
- 18:19Speaker 1: to be defending people like Dershowitz. How did the girl
- 18:24Speaker 1: born in the former Czechoslovakia end up as a key
- 18:27Speaker 1: figure in the Epstein scandal? Although her father was reportedly
- 18:32Speaker 1: has reportedly rejected claims that he and his wife ever
- 18:35Speaker 1: sold her to Epstein, record show, she came to the
- 18:38Speaker 1: US in two thousand, when she would have been fourteen
- 18:41Speaker 1: or fifteen. Now, I don't know about you, folks, and
- 18:45Speaker 1: I don't have children, right, so maybe I'm not the
- 18:47Speaker 1: best person to speak on this, but there is zero
- 18:50Speaker 1: chance I'd be sending my fourteen or fifteen year old
- 18:52Speaker 1: girl from Slovakia to America without my supervision for any reason.
- 19:01Speaker 1: It is claimed that she reached New York through a
- 19:02Speaker 1: model agency MC two that Epstein had helped set up
- 19:06Speaker 1: in New York and Miami. Well, there you go. That
- 19:09Speaker 1: just goes to right there, that's the John Luke Brunell connection, right,
- 19:12Speaker 1: But I want to go deeper. I want to go deeper.
- 19:16Speaker 1: John Luke Brunell obviously facilitated this transaction. And if she
- 19:21Speaker 1: was fourteen or fifteen and she was sold to Jeffrey
- 19:24Speaker 1: Epstein at that age by Jean Luke Brunell, facilitated by
- 19:27Speaker 1: her parents, well, Jean Luke Brunell, that's just another tie
- 19:31Speaker 1: that ties him here in America criminally to Jeffrey Epstein.
- 19:35Speaker 1: So this dude needs to be black bagged. I would
- 19:39Speaker 1: like to see some sort of group American authorities, be
- 19:51Speaker 1: it Inner pol, whoever it may be, snatch this dude
- 19:54Speaker 1: off the street, Jean Luke Brunell and bring him to
- 19:56Speaker 1: face justice like the Israelis did with the people in
- 19:59Speaker 1: me Yunich, except obviously not kill them. The agency's bookkeeper
- 20:06Speaker 1: insisted Marsenkova never actually did any modeling, but was one
- 20:10Speaker 1: of various girls, some as young as thirteen who lived
- 20:13Speaker 1: in flats controlled by Epstein close to his home in
- 20:16Speaker 1: Manhattan's Upper East Side, Virginia Roberts, Prince Andrew's accuser, claimed
- 20:22Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen court papers the arrangement was a cover
- 20:26Speaker 1: for sex trafficking, as most of the girls came from
- 20:28Speaker 1: poor countries and were lured to the US by false
- 20:32Speaker 1: promises of making good money as models. And this is
- 20:35Speaker 1: well documented at this point by several sources. All of
- 20:39Speaker 1: those girls that were in that building on East sixty
- 20:41Speaker 1: sixth Street have talked about it as well. They'd come
- 20:44Speaker 1: over and they wouldn't have jobs as models, they'd be
- 20:46Speaker 1: farmed out as escorts. And the fact that Jeffrey Epstein's
- 20:53Speaker 1: brother also had part of that building or as the
- 20:56Speaker 1: alleged owner of that building, he's another one that needs
- 20:58Speaker 1: to be questioned in all of this. If you own
- 21:01Speaker 1: if you own a building, or you own a bunch
- 21:03Speaker 1: of units in a building and they're being used to
- 21:06Speaker 1: house human trafficking victims, yeah, you probably have a few
- 21:09Speaker 1: questions that need to be asked answered. Martian Kova became
- 21:15Speaker 1: a full time member of the Epstein household, although her
- 21:18Speaker 1: official function wasn't clear. What the What she certainly did do, however,
- 21:24Speaker 1: was fly with Epstein a lot. Now, even if marton
- 21:29Speaker 1: Kova wasn't accused of abusing Jeffrey Epstein's survivors, even if
- 21:34Speaker 1: Martiankova wasn't accused of being involved, her being on the
- 21:38Speaker 1: plane a lot would mean that she at least saw
- 21:41Speaker 1: something right. So you would think, as a decent human
- 21:45Speaker 1: being that you would come forward with what you have
- 21:48Speaker 1: saw what you've seen, But she has not done that.
- 21:51Speaker 1: So again it makes me wonder. The multi millionaire kept
- 21:57Speaker 1: a fleet of planes, the flagship being the notori Is
- 22:00Speaker 1: Lolita Express, a luxuriously customized Boeing seven twenty seven. One
- 22:06Speaker 1: Palm Beach girl told police she was sixteen when she
- 22:09Speaker 1: made the first of hundreds of trips to Epstein's mansion,
- 22:13Speaker 1: breaking down in tears as she described how she often
- 22:17Speaker 1: had sex with marson Kova. Epstein would allegedly watch and
- 22:21Speaker 1: choreograph her activities. In the past decade or so, marston
- 22:25Speaker 1: Kova has disappeared from public view, and again, all of
- 22:30Speaker 1: these stories of these little girls who were forced to
- 22:33Speaker 1: have sex with marton Kova for Jeffrey Epstein's pleasure make
- 22:37Speaker 1: me literally ill after reading about this kind of shit,
- 22:42Speaker 1: It just it sickens me like bleach Bath City. Since
- 22:50Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight case, she has obtained a
- 22:52Speaker 1: pilot's license and she now boasts an impressive social media
- 22:56Speaker 1: following under the Instagram handle flag Global Girl. In twenty fifteen,
- 23:03Speaker 1: it was revealed that Marsonkova and Kellen were running companies
- 23:06Speaker 1: from a Manhattan property owned by Epstein's brother Mark. Again,
- 23:10Speaker 1: Mark's name brought up. Is he going to be indicted?
- 23:13Speaker 1: Is he one of the sealed indictments? His finances are
- 23:16Speaker 1: tied to Epstein's. And if we're talking about this from
- 23:19Speaker 1: a financial perspective, and we're talking about this from a
- 23:24Speaker 1: a Rico type situation, well yeah, Mark most certainly must
- 23:27Speaker 1: be spoken with. It was at his sixty sixth Street
- 23:32Speaker 1: address that Marsonkova set up an aviation company, av A Loop.
- 23:36Speaker 1: She says she is a license She has licensed to
- 23:39Speaker 1: fly multi engine aircraft and Gulfstream business jets, as well
- 23:43Speaker 1: as being an aerobatic pilot and flight instructor. Well haven't
- 23:47Speaker 1: you had a great life, Marsonkova. Meanwhile, the survivors, on
- 23:51Speaker 1: the other hand, have had to claw, scratch, bite, and
- 23:55Speaker 1: fight to get anyone to listen to them. You could
- 23:58Speaker 1: have came out a long time ago, Nadia and put
- 24:02Speaker 1: a stamp on things, but instead you haven't done that lightheartedly.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Her website claims she switched from modeling to flying because
- 24:11Speaker 1: she was ready for longer runways. March and Cova may
- 24:17Speaker 1: soon be coming down to earth with a bump. If
- 24:19Speaker 1: she becomes the next Epstein associate to face her day
- 24:23Speaker 1: in court. I'll tell you what she is. Definitely, she's
- 24:26Speaker 1: definitely going to have to face her day in court.
- 24:29Speaker 1: The whole core, for all of them, There's no chance
- 24:32Speaker 1: any of them are skating out on this. They're all
- 24:35Speaker 1: going to have to speak to investigators. Perhaps they're all
- 24:38Speaker 1: indicted already and we don't know. But what I can
- 24:42Speaker 1: tell you is this, Nadio marson Kova is running out
- 24:46Speaker 1: of time to come forward and do the right thing
- 24:49Speaker 1: in this case. If she does not help the authorities,
- 24:53Speaker 1: if she does not come forward and rat out the
- 24:56Speaker 1: other members of the Core four, then she is in
- 25:00Speaker 1: line to receive the same penalties as the rest of them.
- 25:04Speaker 1: If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
- 25:06Speaker 1: at Bobby Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo b
- 25:10Speaker 1: b Y c ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com.
- 25:14Speaker 1: You can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore
- 25:18Speaker 1: c ap u Cci. All of the links that go
- 25:22Speaker 1: with this episode can be found in the description box.
- 25:26Speaker 1: All right, everybody, I'll be back later on two. Okay
- 25:31Speaker 1: Magazine has produced some pretty damn good articles as of late,
- 25:35Speaker 1: and this one is no different. Again, Chris Spargo has
- 25:40Speaker 1: some pretty good information here. Now we know that in
- 25:44Speaker 1: the Virgin Islands there has been tons of subpoenas sent out. Well,
- 25:49Speaker 1: one of them was sent to Nadia Marsenkova, and in
- 25:54Speaker 1: this article, Okay Magazine breaks down what that's entails and
- 26:01Speaker 1: some of the details surrounding it. So let's jump into
- 26:05Speaker 1: this article by Okay Magazine and see what Chris Spargo
- 26:10Speaker 1: has dug up. Author Chris Spargo headline Epstein bombshell, court demands, videos, picks, logs,
- 26:19Speaker 1: and full list of young rape survivors from sex slave
- 26:22Speaker 1: Nadia marson Coova. This article was published on October thirteenth.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was a man of many secrets during his lifetime,
- 26:34Speaker 1: but that is all about to change. Okay has exclusively
- 26:38Speaker 1: obtained court documents revealing that the pedophile's survivor turned recruiter,
- 26:43Speaker 1: Nadia Marsonkova, was subpoenaed by the Attorney General for the
- 26:47Speaker 1: Virgin Islands. That is pretty damning stuff for the whole
- 26:53Speaker 1: core for right, if one of them gets subpoenaed and
- 26:57Speaker 1: one of them has to go under oath, then you
- 27:00Speaker 1: would expect that all of them are going down, because
- 27:04Speaker 1: there's no way that these people aren't going to rat
- 27:07Speaker 1: on each other. They're not going to sit around there
- 27:09Speaker 1: and take it all in the pants themselves, especially people
- 27:14Speaker 1: like this. Oka can report that the subpoena was issued
- 27:22Speaker 1: back in August and demands marsen Kova, now thirty four,
- 27:25Speaker 1: hand over specific records and documents that fall into twelve
- 27:29Speaker 1: separate categories. Prosecutors have ordered the Slovakian born pilot to
- 27:35Speaker 1: comply by returning the requested evidence within thirty days of
- 27:38Speaker 1: receiving the notice. So if this subpoena was sent in
- 27:43Speaker 1: August and she had thirty days of receiving the notice
- 27:46Speaker 1: to give the information up, you would have to think
- 27:49Speaker 1: that this information is already in the hands of the
- 27:53Speaker 1: Virgin Island's Attorney General, Denise George. The late crim who
- 28:00Speaker 1: died in his jail cell at age sixty six in
- 28:03Speaker 1: August twenty nineteen, is not the only person whose secret
- 28:07Speaker 1: personal affairs are at stake, should marson Kova do as
- 28:11Speaker 1: directed of her by the Attorney General's office. So again,
- 28:15Speaker 1: like I was stating, there's going to be people put
- 28:17Speaker 1: in serious jeopardy. Any time one of these members of
- 28:20Speaker 1: the Core four is put under the microscope, and is
- 28:25Speaker 1: especially put under oath to speak, then it causes all
- 28:29Speaker 1: sorts of danger for the rest of them. Because remember,
- 28:34Speaker 1: the FBI has talked to all of these people already,
- 28:36Speaker 1: I'm sure, and if their stories don't line up, well
- 28:41Speaker 1: you got yourself a little bit of perjury going on
- 28:44Speaker 1: to get things started. And you know that these stories
- 28:47Speaker 1: aren't lining up. You know that, Sarah Kellen Vickers, Nadia
- 28:51Speaker 1: marson Kova, Leslie Groff, Adrianna Ross. You know that these
- 28:55Speaker 1: ladies are not going to do time for one another.
- 29:00Speaker 1: They're gonna rat on each other, and they're gonna do
- 29:02Speaker 1: whatever they can possibly do in the name of self preservation.
- 29:10Speaker 1: The court documents also request all documents or materials reflecting
- 29:14Speaker 1: or referencing any communications with or relating to Gilaine Maxwell
- 29:20Speaker 1: so not only to communications between Nadia Marsonkova and Jeffrey
- 29:25Speaker 1: Epstein have to be turned over, but any communications between
- 29:30Speaker 1: her and Gelaye Maxwell most must also be turned over
- 29:35Speaker 1: according to this subpoena. So this is a pretty wide
- 29:39Speaker 1: ranging subpoena. This is a serious situation for Nadia Marsionkova
- 29:44Speaker 1: and the rest of the core four believe that Virgin
- 29:50Speaker 1: Island's tax lawyer Erica A. Kellerhall's Epstein as state co
- 29:54Speaker 1: executors Richard D. Kahn and Darren k endyke Yulia Slinskaya,
- 30:00Speaker 1: an Epstein X employee, Adriana Ross, a former model accused
- 30:05Speaker 1: of organizing underage girls for Epstein, and Leslie Groff, an
- 30:09Speaker 1: Epstein assistant who allegedly coordinated travel for young girls, and
- 30:14Speaker 1: or Sarah Kellen, another former assistant who allegedly kept a
- 30:19Speaker 1: rolodex of young girls for Epstein. So all of these
- 30:23Speaker 1: people named in the subpoena basically are the people that
- 30:27Speaker 1: I believe will end up indicted and in trouble for
- 30:32Speaker 1: this actual actual justice to be served. These are the
- 30:37Speaker 1: likeliest candidates of people who end up being arrested. Now
- 30:41Speaker 1: I discussed all of that earlier on the drop when
- 30:44Speaker 1: we were talking about Leon Black and the only my opinion,
- 30:49Speaker 1: the only way to get these enablers is the financial path, right.
- 30:53Speaker 1: But these other people, the core four, Indike and Khan,
- 30:56Speaker 1: forget it. These people, they actually have their fingerprint on
- 31:01Speaker 1: the whole, entire blueprint of this criminal enterprise. So these
- 31:06Speaker 1: people that were in the inner circle, that were there daily,
- 31:10Speaker 1: that knew what was going on, well, these are the
- 31:13Speaker 1: people that are in eminent jeopardy of losing their freedom,
- 31:17Speaker 1: and these are the people that the prosecutors, in my opinion,
- 31:21Speaker 1: are most assuredly focused on as we speak. Slinskaya, Ross,
- 31:27Speaker 1: and Groff have also been served with subpoenas in the case.
- 31:31Speaker 1: So it's interesting, right, Leslie Groff, Slinskaya, and Adriana Ross
- 31:40Speaker 1: have all also been subpoena in the case. So you know,
- 31:44Speaker 1: they're getting together with whoever their lawyers are, and if
- 31:47Speaker 1: I'm their lawyer, I'm suggesting that they make a deal.
- 31:50Speaker 1: I'm suggesting right now to them, if I'm their lawyer,
- 31:53Speaker 1: that you walk into the prosecutor's office, you walk into
- 31:55Speaker 1: the Attorney General's office, whoever it may be, and you
- 31:58Speaker 1: spill the beans every last thing you know about this
- 32:01Speaker 1: man in his operation. You have to come clean with
- 32:04Speaker 1: That is the only way to get some years shaved
- 32:07Speaker 1: off of your sentence, because nobody should be given no
- 32:12Speaker 1: jail time over this. When we have crimes involving children,
- 32:15Speaker 1: there has to be jail time for everybody involved. Martian
- 32:22Speaker 1: Cova is next acts asked to supply the court with
- 32:26Speaker 1: all documents reflecting any and all payments to you, whether
- 32:30Speaker 1: monetary or in kind, for any of her services or work,
- 32:34Speaker 1: as well as any materials reflecting employment agreements and or
- 32:38Speaker 1: severance agreements, and documents related to any settlements or non
- 32:43Speaker 1: disclosure agreements. What they're looking for is receipts. They want
- 32:47Speaker 1: to make sure she has receipts for the money that
- 32:49Speaker 1: he gave her. Now, remember the previous article from OK
- 32:52Speaker 1: magazine was talking about how Jeffrey Epstein dispersed a bunch
- 32:56Speaker 1: of funds to people just like Marsenkova in the year
- 33:00Speaker 1: leading up to his death. So the question is does
- 33:03Speaker 1: she have receipts for this money? Was all of this
- 33:06Speaker 1: stuff locked and was it all legit or were their
- 33:12Speaker 1: financial crimes committed? Was their money laundering going on? Was
- 33:16Speaker 1: there insert a million different finsen violations going on. So
- 33:22Speaker 1: that's what the court is trying to do here. They're
- 33:25Speaker 1: trying to establish a pattern. That way they can figure
- 33:28Speaker 1: out what she was up to, where she was getting
- 33:31Speaker 1: the money, and what the reason behind that money was,
- 33:35Speaker 1: and also did she claim that money. Remember, folks, at
- 33:38Speaker 1: the end of the day, the last people you want
- 33:42Speaker 1: to tangle with is thers. Forget the FBI, forget the CIA,
- 33:46Speaker 1: The irs is the last group of people you think
- 33:50Speaker 1: you're gonna pull one over on. If you owe them
- 33:52Speaker 1: ten cents, you're paying them ten cents. Believe it. The
- 34:02Speaker 1: Attorney General also asked that marson Cova detail what exactly
- 34:05Speaker 1: her job was during her time with Epstein and provide
- 34:09Speaker 1: an accounting of all financial transactions and credit card purchases
- 34:13Speaker 1: made during that time. It sure looks to me like
- 34:16Speaker 1: they're building a gigantic matrix based on the financials of
- 34:21Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and how they were dispersed. And if the
- 34:25Speaker 1: SDNY was smart, they'd be calling Denise George and getting
- 34:29Speaker 1: a look at what she's been working with here and
- 34:32Speaker 1: what sort of information she's drummed up, because it's all
- 34:35Speaker 1: part of the same overall, large, wide ranging case it's
- 34:41Speaker 1: just happening on many battlefronts, right. This is all the
- 34:44Speaker 1: same war, but these are just the many different fronts
- 34:47Speaker 1: that it's being fought on. Martion Cove is also asked
- 34:53Speaker 1: to supply the court with all documented materials relating to
- 34:57Speaker 1: any immigration matters, including but not limited to visa and
- 35:01Speaker 1: applications therefore for any girl or woman who visited or
- 35:06Speaker 1: traveled with Jeffrey Epstein, and all communications in electronic paper
- 35:10Speaker 1: form with any immigration attorney related to any such girl
- 35:14Speaker 1: or woman, so that all goes back to the story
- 35:17Speaker 1: of yeah, the girls being made to marry these girls
- 35:22Speaker 1: like Martiankova so they could stay in the country, and
- 35:26Speaker 1: all of the other underlying crimes that came with that,
- 35:29Speaker 1: the immigration crimes et cetera, et cetera. So Denise, George
- 35:34Speaker 1: and the Attorney General's Office in the Virgin Islands is
- 35:38Speaker 1: looking at every single angle, it would seem, all documents, materials,
- 35:45Speaker 1: recordings or books reflecting, referencing, or documenting any flights you took,
- 35:51Speaker 1: including but not limited to those you piloted with Jeffrey Epstein,
- 35:55Speaker 1: including but not limited to the aircraft you piloted, and
- 35:59Speaker 1: in the identity of each of the passengers on each flight.
- 36:03Speaker 1: So they're asking marson Kova for any and all flight logs,
- 36:07Speaker 1: any and all communications, any bit of note taking that
- 36:11Speaker 1: she had done while on the planes with Epstein or
- 36:14Speaker 1: piloting those planes is now wanted by the Attorney General
- 36:19Speaker 1: and the federal government. Any and all communications reflecting or
- 36:25Speaker 1: relating to any travel arrangements to or from the Virgin
- 36:29Speaker 1: Islands in which you were involved, including but not limited to,
- 36:34Speaker 1: any and all passengers on each trip and the provider
- 36:37Speaker 1: of each mode of travel. They're being thorough here, Huh.
- 36:41Speaker 1: They're really going for the gusto, and they're looking to
- 36:44Speaker 1: get all of the evidence that they possibly can. This
- 36:48Speaker 1: show doesn't seem to me like an attorney general who's
- 36:51Speaker 1: just trying to scare the estate. This looks like an
- 36:56Speaker 1: attorney general who's going for the gusto. All photos, videos,
- 37:02Speaker 1: including any housed within electronic media, of you with Jeffrey Epstein,
- 37:07Speaker 1: Gilayne Maxwell, Erica Kellerhall's, Richard d Con, Darren k endyke
- 37:13Speaker 1: Juha Slimkaya, Adriana Ross, Leslie Groth and or Sarah Kelln
- 37:20Speaker 1: So any pictures, any text, conversations, any emails if you
- 37:25Speaker 1: wrote them, a note on a drink napkin that has
- 37:29Speaker 1: to be turned over to the Attorney General. According to
- 37:33Speaker 1: this subpoena, provide all documents and materials related to any
- 37:39Speaker 1: and all cellular phone numbers used by you for the
- 37:42Speaker 1: relevant timeframe, including each phone number assigned to you or
- 37:47Speaker 1: used by you, and the cellular carrier through which the
- 37:50Speaker 1: service was handled. That sounds like a metadata look to me.
- 37:54Speaker 1: What they'll try and do is get an idea of
- 37:57Speaker 1: you know, who she was texting when she was texting them,
- 37:59Speaker 1: and and that will also help them build their profile
- 38:02Speaker 1: and have an idea of other people who were caught
- 38:08Speaker 1: up in this, perhaps any and all documents, documents, materials,
- 38:14Speaker 1: or other items related to any credit checking or other
- 38:18Speaker 1: financial account of any description open for you by Jeffrey
- 38:22Speaker 1: Epstein and or anyone on Jeffrey Epstein's behalf, including by
- 38:28Speaker 1: Darren Dyke or Richard Kahan, including but not limited to
- 38:33Speaker 1: any American Express account. So they specifically point out the
- 38:36Speaker 1: American Express account. And it's funny that they point out
- 38:39Speaker 1: Indike and Khan as people who have opened accounts for
- 38:42Speaker 1: her or could have been opening accounts for the survivors
- 38:46Speaker 1: or co conspirators, whatever you want to call it. But
- 38:51Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is again in Dike and Khan,
- 38:54Speaker 1: their signatures, their names are all over this. And I'm
- 38:59Speaker 1: not talking about out signing for some door dash right,
- 39:03Speaker 1: We're talking about significant signatures on very, very crucial documents
- 39:10Speaker 1: pertaining to this case. Many have identified marson Kova as
- 39:16Speaker 1: an accomplice in procuring underage girls for Epstein, but she
- 39:20Speaker 1: was just as much a victim of the serial pedophile incidents.
- 39:23Speaker 1: Reports from the Palm Beach Police Department revealed that Epstein
- 39:27Speaker 1: told at least one underage survivor that Marsenkova was his
- 39:31Speaker 1: Yugoslavian sex slave. Multiple girls also state that Epstein made
- 39:35Speaker 1: them engage in sexual acts with marson Kova, which eventually
- 39:39Speaker 1: turned into threesomes with both himself and the model. And
- 39:43Speaker 1: like I've said from the beginning, marson Kova is one
- 39:46Speaker 1: of the pretty much the only person in this whole
- 39:48Speaker 1: entire affair that I take any pity on whatsoever. But
- 39:53Speaker 1: that pity is starting to run dry if she doesn't
- 39:55Speaker 1: come forward and do the right thing. You know, you
- 39:59Speaker 1: can't abuse other people and then say well I was abused,
- 40:04Speaker 1: So that makes it Okay, that is just not acceptable.
- 40:07Speaker 1: So she needs to come forward, and she needs to
- 40:10Speaker 1: spill the beans, and she needs to be cooperative, and
- 40:14Speaker 1: she needs to show remorse for what she did. Because
- 40:18Speaker 1: out of all of the people involved in Jeffrey Epstein's
- 40:21Speaker 1: sordid affairs, this is the only person that elicits any
- 40:25Speaker 1: sort of sympathy in my opinion, But her action since
- 40:29Speaker 1: Epstein's death is slowly starting to erode that sympathy from me.
- 40:33Speaker 1: You have to step forward, You have to come forward,
- 40:36Speaker 1: and you have to go on the record, and you
- 40:38Speaker 1: have to do whatever you can possibly do to help
- 40:42Speaker 1: rectify the situation that you were part of. Epstein had
- 40:48Speaker 1: purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia, wrote Detective Joseph Riccari,
- 40:52Speaker 1: after his interview with one survivor. Epstein bragged he brought
- 40:56Speaker 1: her into the United States to be as Yugoslavian sex slave.
- 41:00Speaker 1: Can you imagine the parents of these kids selling kids off.
- 41:04Speaker 1: That's how poor their countries are. You think you got
- 41:07Speaker 1: a bad boy, Let me tell you there is some
- 41:09Speaker 1: real poverty in this world. There are some war torn,
- 41:13Speaker 1: impoverished places that would make people like us from the West,
- 41:19Speaker 1: make our jaws drop. And that's obviously what happened here, right.
- 41:24Speaker 1: She was purchased from her parents. Her parents were obviously poor.
- 41:28Speaker 1: They're from Yugoslavia, a country that you know, at the
- 41:32Speaker 1: time of the purchase was not doing very well. And
- 41:36Speaker 1: you see the story unfold time and time again. How
- 41:39Speaker 1: many unnamed girls suffered the same fate. But then they
- 41:45Speaker 1: didn't get the benefits afterwards. They weren't kept around in
- 41:49Speaker 1: the inner circle. They were jettisoned, they were discarded. What
- 41:52Speaker 1: happened to those girls, That's a question that just is
- 41:55Speaker 1: never far from my mind. Would have been underage during
- 42:01Speaker 1: most of the alleged incidents described by survivors during the
- 42:04Speaker 1: initial two thousand and six investigation in Palm Beach. She
- 42:08Speaker 1: was no older than sixteen when she and another underage
- 42:12Speaker 1: survivor were allegedly forced to stimulate each other manually orally
- 42:16Speaker 1: and with toys while Epstein watched them and pleasured himself
- 42:20Speaker 1: in bed. And you see what I'm talking about. Sympathi
- 42:24Speaker 1: as grows sixteen, bought from her parents, and everything that
- 42:27Speaker 1: she suffered through had to play a part in the
- 42:31Speaker 1: way she behaved herself after. That would be my guest, right, Again,
- 42:36Speaker 1: I'm not a psychologist. I'm just speculating here. But what
- 42:40Speaker 1: I can tell you is the fact that she was underage,
- 42:44Speaker 1: and she was purchased by Jeffrey Epstein, and it was
- 42:48Speaker 1: a situation like it was. She is the only one,
- 42:52Speaker 1: in my opinion, of the core four who deserves any
- 42:57Speaker 1: sort of special circumstance during this investigation. But again, she
- 43:02Speaker 1: has to be willing to speak on it. She has
- 43:04Speaker 1: to be willing to give her testimony and help the
- 43:07Speaker 1: case move forward. If not, then in the eyes of
- 43:11Speaker 1: the law, then I highly doubt that they're going to
- 43:14Speaker 1: show her any mercy. That same unamed girl broke down
- 43:19Speaker 1: in tears while revealing she had been to Epstein's Palm
- 43:22Speaker 1: Beach mansion hundreds of times in a two year period
- 43:25Speaker 1: and made thousands of dollars. At first, she was paid
- 43:29Speaker 1: extra to perform an oral sex act on s sex
- 43:32Speaker 1: act on Marsionkova. Then each week things continued to escalate,
- 43:37Speaker 1: according to an incident report, and they were normalizing, right,
- 43:40Speaker 1: Epstein was normalizing the behavior, and Marsionkova was obviously a
- 43:47Speaker 1: child still in the situation we're talking about here, and
- 43:50Speaker 1: she was being used as a part of that normalization process.
- 43:57Speaker 1: That survivor said that she was adamant that no vaginal
- 44:00Speaker 1: penetration would occur with Epstein, but her request was ignored
- 44:04Speaker 1: by the pedophile. She told detective Rakari. During one visit,
- 44:08Speaker 1: the date of which she could not recall, Epstein allegedly
- 44:11Speaker 1: raped that victim after she and marsen Kova had engaged
- 44:15Speaker 1: in an oral sex act completion. All right, that's probably
- 44:19Speaker 1: a little more detail than we needed right at this point.
- 44:21Speaker 1: But here we are a little more detail than I
- 44:23Speaker 1: want to know. I just, you know, I'd prefer just
- 44:27Speaker 1: to not think about what these girls went through. Honestly,
- 44:30Speaker 1: it's so disgusting to think that these girls were treated
- 44:36Speaker 1: this way, that they were treated as objects, not even
- 44:40Speaker 1: human beings. It's so disgusting to me. It's so disturbing.
- 44:47Speaker 1: Another woman also detailed a similar progression of events, starting
- 44:52Speaker 1: with massages and leading it too sexual encounters with marson Kova.
- 44:56Speaker 1: That survivor, who was of age during all visits to
- 44:59Speaker 1: the the house as she first met Epstein at eighteen,
- 45:02Speaker 1: told detective Rakari she also performed oral sex acts on Epstein,
- 45:07Speaker 1: but refused his directive to bring around other young girls
- 45:12Speaker 1: and look, I'm sure that there were some girls that
- 45:15Speaker 1: weren't into it right, They weren't gonna bring other girls around.
- 45:18Speaker 1: They might come and be involved in the massages or whatever,
- 45:22Speaker 1: but I am sure that some girls got a bad
- 45:25Speaker 1: vibe from that and were like, you know what, I'm
- 45:27Speaker 1: not going to do that. And most of those girls
- 45:30Speaker 1: would have been older, right, with life experience. Not these
- 45:32Speaker 1: young high school age girls. Look, they don't have as
- 45:35Speaker 1: much life experience. They're easier to manipulate, especially when you
- 45:38Speaker 1: have a snake like Elaine Maxwell involved. She also claimed
- 45:46Speaker 1: that she was once directed to perform a manual sex
- 45:48Speaker 1: act on herself while watching Epstein have sex with Marsonkova.
- 45:53Speaker 1: Another survivor who told police she began having sexual relations
- 45:56Speaker 1: with Marsonkova at sixteen, said that Epstein pictures of the
- 46:00Speaker 1: two and actually displayed them around his home. And we
- 46:05Speaker 1: know that is factual. I mean, not that those pictures
- 46:09Speaker 1: per se, but we know that there were pictures of
- 46:11Speaker 1: young underage girls, who what girls that seem underage around
- 46:15Speaker 1: his house all over the place, decorating the place. And
- 46:18Speaker 1: never mind what was on the computer and what was
- 46:20Speaker 1: in the safe. Though Marsonkova was an alleged survivor of Epstein.
- 46:28Speaker 1: She would later start recruiting girls for the financier pedophile.
- 46:32Speaker 1: According to court documents, marston Kova was granted immunity as
- 46:36Speaker 1: part of Epstein's two thousand and eight deal, despite the
- 46:39Speaker 1: fact that no charges would likely have been filed against
- 46:42Speaker 1: her based on the police investigation. Well, that's just a
- 46:46Speaker 1: bit of a I'm guilty, so I'm going to make
- 46:49Speaker 1: sure that I'm getting protected by this. Epstein wasn't taking
- 46:53Speaker 1: any chances with that right. He wanted to make sure
- 46:56Speaker 1: those who were closest to him, those who knew what
- 46:59Speaker 1: were was really going going on. He wanted to make
- 47:01Speaker 1: sure that they were protected. So mister, I kept my
- 47:05Speaker 1: underpants on. The naked volleyball guy himself, Alan Dershowitz went
- 47:10Speaker 1: to work and started flaying up the prosecution behind the
- 47:14Speaker 1: scenes and then forced them into that deal. Isn't it great?
- 47:19Speaker 1: The two tier justice system? Isn't it just fantastic? Police
- 47:26Speaker 1: still allowed her to visit Epstein in prison, however, more
- 47:29Speaker 1: than ninety times, despite having learned the fact that she
- 47:32Speaker 1: was underage when she started living with the pedophile. See,
- 47:35Speaker 1: none of that shit makes sense, right, Martin Kova should
- 47:38Speaker 1: have never been allowed to visit this guy in prison once,
- 47:40Speaker 1: never mind ninety times. And then you refer back to
- 47:44Speaker 1: that and you say to yourself, well, she visited him
- 47:47Speaker 1: ninety times and she was an adult at that point.
- 47:50Speaker 1: At what point do we start taking self responsibility for
- 47:53Speaker 1: our actions? And that's why it's such a weird situation
- 47:58Speaker 1: with marson Kova in my opinion. You know, you have
- 48:01Speaker 1: all of the circumstances that led up to the point
- 48:04Speaker 1: where she started recruiting, she started abusing, But at a
- 48:08Speaker 1: certain point you have to say to yourself, She's had
- 48:11Speaker 1: ample time to come forward, especially since Epstein's been dead,
- 48:15Speaker 1: and she has not done so, at least that we
- 48:16Speaker 1: know about. Born Nadia marson Kova in eastern Czechoslovakia before
- 48:24Speaker 1: moving with her family to Yugoslavia, the pilot changed her surname,
- 48:28Speaker 1: now Marchenko in recent years and americanized her first name,
- 48:32Speaker 1: going by Nadia. So look, this is just the beginning, folks,
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