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Running A Marathon At 61 Racing Against Time From Jeffrey Weiss · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: jeff how are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Good? How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic and very excited to share a conversation with
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  Speaker 1: you because you get it. I mean, you understand the
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  Speaker 1: timing and basically the listening of your body in order
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  Speaker 1: to do what it is that you require during these transformations.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I really appreciate that. I can't claim to have
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  Speaker 2: a to be an expert in that, but certainly for me,
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  Speaker 2: I think I've discovered some things that have really worked out.
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  Speaker 1: But you grab our attention right away. Racing against time?
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  Speaker 1: Aren't we all doing that? Except you know what, Jeffrey,
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  Speaker 1: You you're the one that figured out a better way
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  Speaker 1: to do it, and we're we're just doing I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what we're doing, but we're just racing through time.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think we all are. You know, we all
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  Speaker 2: have to contend with the effects of aging, and I
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  Speaker 2: think we all have a lot of power over how
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  Speaker 2: we go about doing that and how the kind of
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  Speaker 2: life that we want to lead, the kinds of things
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  Speaker 2: we want to be able to do as we get older,
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  Speaker 2: and so you know, I think for me that the
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  Speaker 2: trick is to really harness the things that we have
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  Speaker 2: control over and really to try to have the best
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  Speaker 2: life that we can.
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  Speaker 1: Man, you bring up a very interesting point there when
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  Speaker 1: you say aging, because I would have never thought in
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  Speaker 1: high school that I would get up to a point
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  Speaker 1: to where I would look at my master in martial
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  Speaker 1: arts and say, I think I've aged out. He said,
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  Speaker 1: there's no such thing as aging out. I'm thinking he's
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  Speaker 1: wrong on this. What are you going to and going
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  Speaker 1: through when it comes to what you deal with out
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  Speaker 1: there racing against time?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, I think we have to
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  Speaker 2: we do have to recognize it as we get older.
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  Speaker 2: We do have to make some concessions to that, but
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  Speaker 2: not as many as we take and I think we're
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  Speaker 2: capable of a lot more than we give ourselves credit for.
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  Speaker 2: And for me doing a first marathon at fifty, doing
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  Speaker 2: iron Man in my late fifties, ultra marathons in my
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  Speaker 2: late fifties and early sixties has been very eye opening
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  Speaker 2: because I never really considered myself a runner, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: still not an especially past one. And it's not that
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  Speaker 2: those are the recipe for everybody, but I do think
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  Speaker 2: we're all capable of surprising ourselves and it's fun to
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  Speaker 2: go through that process.
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  Speaker 1: All right, this is a third degree black belt talking
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  Speaker 1: to you right now as that runner. Is it because
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  Speaker 1: you finally learned to listen to your body? And is
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  Speaker 1: that why you picked up running? Because I got into
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  Speaker 1: martial arts at forty.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing, that's amazing. I think I listened to my
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  Speaker 2: body in the sense that I realized I wasn't satisfied
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  Speaker 2: being sedentary, that I knew that I needed to start
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  Speaker 2: to get serious about my fitness if I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: live the kind of life that I wanted to live.
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  Speaker 2: And so basically, for me, it started with the ten
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  Speaker 2: k at the age of forty eight and basically kept
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  Speaker 2: going kept challenging myself, kept looking for new mountains, and
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  Speaker 2: it's an amazing process to the end.
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  Speaker 1: How did you deal with those moments? And baby, Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be too transparent here, but I
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  Speaker 1: think that maybe someone will relay with it. My very
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  Speaker 1: first five K I was like a little cry baby
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  Speaker 1: out there because I wanted to stop. No, you can't stop.
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  Speaker 1: You hear all these dang voices inside your head. How
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  Speaker 1: are you dealing with those voices when they want to stop?
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  Speaker 1: But Jeffrey says no.
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  Speaker 2: I think that is one of the first skills that
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  Speaker 2: you need to develop, and it gets more challenging as
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  Speaker 2: as the distances get farther if you do get serious
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  Speaker 2: about running. But I think if you take it in
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  Speaker 2: a step wise way and you know, just kind of
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  Speaker 2: climb the ladder and take on things that are maybe
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  Speaker 2: a little outside your comfort zone but truly achievable, you
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  Speaker 2: do get better and better at silencing those voices and
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  Speaker 2: really just you know, keep moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: To become part of the Iron Man legacy. Don't you
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  Speaker 1: have to sit down and pre plan a lot of stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Because I've seen so many runners that, oh, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they'll jog around they'll think that they're getting things right,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's a mental game, is it not.
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  Speaker 1: And it deserves to have time for planning, definitely.
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  Speaker 2: I think for the longer the race, the more planning
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  Speaker 2: is needed. I think, you know, to take on a marathon,
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  Speaker 2: you need to be decently fit, and then you know
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  Speaker 2: you're really going to need at least four or five
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  Speaker 2: months of dedicated specific training for that And for iron Man.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't take on my first one until I've been
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  Speaker 2: doing endurance sports for about nine years and really very
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  Speaker 2: carefully planned out a year of training to get me
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  Speaker 2: to the start line.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever wonder where life is going to plan
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  Speaker 1: to you in the way of all of this experience?
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  Speaker 1: And the thing is is that for some reason, life
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  Speaker 1: will come back and say, hey, you remember when you
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  Speaker 1: first started running. I need that energy right now. It's
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  Speaker 1: almost like you're learning something new every day for something
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  Speaker 1: that will one day happen that you're now you know,
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  Speaker 1: expected to show up for.
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  Speaker 2: I totally agree, and I've always loved the adage that
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  Speaker 2: sports are a metaphor for life. Yep. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that done right, we don't just get fitter and healthier,
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  Speaker 2: but we also build grit, resilience, aspirational skills, and aspirational mindset,
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  Speaker 2: a growth mindset, I think, all of which pay incredible dividends,
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  Speaker 2: and all sears of our lives, whether of our lives,
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  Speaker 2: whether as professionals or just as spouses and parents and
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  Speaker 2: all of the rest. I think it carries into everything
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  Speaker 2: that we care about.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Jeffrey Weiss coming
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  Speaker 1: up next, the name of his book, Racing Against Time.
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  Speaker 1: We are back with Jeffrey Weiss. So okay, you and
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  Speaker 1: I are both up here. And the thing is is
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  Speaker 1: that do you ever have those moments where you know
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  Speaker 1: inside your heart I can outperform that twenty year old
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  Speaker 1: or that thirty year old. But the thing about it
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  Speaker 1: is you don't want to come across as the grumpy
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  Speaker 1: old man who's out to prove it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think, and I think the competitiveness in
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  Speaker 2: many ways should be with yourself, yep, and trying to
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  Speaker 2: do as well as you can do for yourself with
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  Speaker 2: the tools that you have and the ability you have.
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  Speaker 2: And that's my competition. I'm not trying to better other people,
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  Speaker 2: certainly not people who are much younger. If I think
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  Speaker 2: about twenty year olds. I do sometimes think about my
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  Speaker 2: twenty year old self, yep, and it gives me. It
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  Speaker 2: makes me happy to think that I'm doing things now
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  Speaker 2: that I never could have done when I was bad age,
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  Speaker 2: and that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: I love those little conversations that we can have with
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  Speaker 1: that younger self. I mean, it's almost like they've never
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  Speaker 1: left us. They're still there. It's almost like that movie
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  Speaker 1: with Russell Crowe Beautiful Voices or Beautiful Man. And the
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  Speaker 1: thing is is that you're able to sit there and
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  Speaker 1: communicate with where you once were, to make yourself greater
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  Speaker 1: even today.
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  Speaker 2: I think those voice I think it goes in two
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  Speaker 2: directions to me. I think my younger self would be
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  Speaker 2: inspired to know that life you didn't end when I
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  Speaker 2: hit my sixties and I was still doing cool things,
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  Speaker 2: things that minderself couldn't have imagined. And I think about
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  Speaker 2: my much older self looking back on the life and
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  Speaker 2: hoping that that older self will look back on a
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  Speaker 2: life well lived, a life of risk taking, of audacity,
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  Speaker 2: of doing some pretty neat things. And so I think
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  Speaker 2: in both directions.
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  Speaker 1: The book we're talking about is racing against time, and
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  Speaker 1: you know there's going to be some naysayer sitting in
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  Speaker 1: the front seat of their car, their office, or inside
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  Speaker 1: their house somewhere, and they're going to be going, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to deal with the pain. Well, how what
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  Speaker 1: can we say to let people realize it's called pain management.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to be in pain if you learn
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  Speaker 1: the fine art of pain management.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. I think. It is going to
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  Speaker 2: be hard for the first month or so of any
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  Speaker 2: new activity. I think there's no getting away from that.
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  Speaker 2: But I think if we persist, if we really search
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  Speaker 2: for activities that we are capable of doing well and
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  Speaker 2: that we're capable of enjoying, I think we'll find that
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  Speaker 2: the pain is not nearly the factor that we think
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  Speaker 2: it might be. And I also think there's just there's
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  Speaker 2: tremendous satisfaction in completing a hard workout, and how very
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  Speaker 2: much discomfort you feel during the workout. It's to me
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  Speaker 2: it's overcome by the feeling of satisfaction and you know,
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  Speaker 2: just gives you some pride that you did something hard afterward,
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  Speaker 2: and the carries through the day.
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  Speaker 1: I think, did you get a runner's high while you
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  Speaker 1: were writing this book? Because it takes a lot of
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  Speaker 1: energy to put things on a page.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the running for me is a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: And the running for me is not taxing in the
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  Speaker 2: way that a hard work. And I write every day,
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  Speaker 2: start my day with writing before I work out, and
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  Speaker 2: always enjoy it. It's a tremendous process. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Where'd you get that idea from? Writing it? Because I
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  Speaker 1: do the same thing when I wake up at six
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  Speaker 1: in the morning. The first thing in my hand is
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  Speaker 1: a writing instrument.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's wonderful, you know, it's funny. This is my
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  Speaker 2: third book, and before I wrote my first one, I
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  Speaker 2: did actually read a lot of books on writing, with
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of interesting advice, the approaches of different famous authors.
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  Speaker 2: And one thing that came across time and again was
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  Speaker 2: if you want to be a serious writer, you got
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  Speaker 2: to write every day. Yeah, and I think that's a discipline.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, look, if you write a page
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  Speaker 2: a day in a year, you've got a book. So
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  Speaker 2: it's not as simple as that, but it's not far
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  Speaker 2: off from that either. And I think, you know, persistence
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  Speaker 2: really does yield tremendous benefits over time.
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  Speaker 1: In any of those studies, did you include Julia Cameron?
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  Speaker 2: Not specifically, but I think I got that from am
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  Speaker 2: Lamot and maybe from Stephen King here in one of
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  Speaker 2: the book I'm writing. Yeah, Yeah, there's some really really
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  Speaker 2: terrific ones out there. I encourage anybody who's interested in
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  Speaker 2: it to check them out. But yeah, writing is a
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  Speaker 2: wonderful adventure of its own.
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  Speaker 1: See, you're proving to people you can run and be
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  Speaker 1: everything else in life as well. It doesn't have to
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  Speaker 1: be that thing. Oh you're a runner, that's the only
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  Speaker 1: thing you do. No, You've got a life to live.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think fitness is incredibly important,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not the be all and end all of life.
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  Speaker 2: And it shouldn't, you know, it shouldn't overcome your commitment
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  Speaker 2: to your obligations as a family person. That shouldn't take
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  Speaker 2: away from your obligations as you know in the workforce.
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  Speaker 2: But I think done right, it actually can make you
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  Speaker 2: better in all of those fears.
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  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
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  Speaker 1: Because I want them to jump on your and go
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  Speaker 1: for a run.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. The book itself Writs Against Time is
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  Speaker 2: best obtained on Amazon, either as a paperback ind the
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  Speaker 2: version or an audiobook, and I have an author website
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  Speaker 2: Jeffreyweis's author dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Please come back to the show anytime in the future, Jeffrey,
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  Speaker 1: because this is a subject that needs to be talked
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  Speaker 1: about throughout the year, not on just one Spring day.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate that. Thank you so much. It's been
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  Speaker 2: a real pleasure.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay, you two.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much.