Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / How to Leverage Supplier Diversity to Grow Your Business with Sharon Manker
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- 0:02321.
- 0:06Lift off.
- 0:09Ending small business failure.
- 0:11Welcome to the Small Biz Chat podcast with the number one small business expert, Melinda
- 0:17Emerson.
- 0:18Melinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 0:23you need to succeed and live the life you dream of.
- 0:26Now here's your host, the smallbizchat lady herself, Melinda Emerson.
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- 0:45small business.
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- 0:58Let me introduce my guest.
- 0:59Her name is Sharon Maker, and she is an award winning supply chain and supply diversity
- 1:05strategist.
- 1:06She has an inclusion diversity inclusion background and over 2 decades of doing this
- 1:13work.
- 1:14She is also an author and founder of Advocating for Change, Apologetically LLC.
- 1:20Sharon has received numerous accolades, including the 2020 global.
- 1:24Excuse me.
- 1:25Corporate advocate of the year from the Eastern minority supply development council, the
- 1:30diversity champion of the year from the women's business enterprise, National Council, veteran
- 1:35advocate of the year, National veteran Business Development Council.
- 1:38Listen, she believes in helping folks.
- 1:41Alright.
- 1:41I I think I think we can get this from her background.
- 1:45But she has also been recognized as one of Diversity Plus Magazine's top 15 women in power
- 1:52impacting diversity, and she's really dedicated to influencing meaningful change for
- 1:56individuals and businesses facing unprecedented odds.
- 2:00For more information on her and all of the things that she does, head over to
- 2:04sharonmanker.com.
- 2:06Sharon, welcome.
- 2:07Welcome.
- 2:07Welcome.
- 2:08Thank you for having me, Melinda.
- 2:10The small biz lady.
- 2:11It's good to see you.
- 2:13Listen, tell me, how did you get into this supply chain supply diversity?
- 2:19Like, how did that become your jam?
- 2:21You know, what's so crazy is I wanted to go to school to be a lawyer.
- 2:25Right?
- 2:26That was what I wanted to go to school to be.
- 2:29And somehow ended up in an internship in supply chain, in Philadelphia in the health system, in
- 2:36their corporate supply chain.
- 2:37And then I worked my way up, when I worked my way up from a buyer to a category manager, to
- 2:45to now a director of supplier diversity.
- 2:48So I've been in multiple, multiple different industries from health care supply chain to,
- 2:54insurance supply chain, and finance, and also in the utility space.
- 3:00And I knew that what I like to do was, like, contract management.
- 3:05So I always tell people my super skill is I can make salesmen cry.
- 3:10No.
- 3:11It's it's maybe it's because I'm short.
- 3:12Maybe it's because they might be intimidated by my shortness, but, I learned how to negotiate
- 3:17well and how to make those deals and get the proper ROI on, contracts.
- 3:23And so I was able to take that and go from company to company, a lot of publicly traded
- 3:30companies nationally.
- 3:32And now I'm in the financial services mortgage services company with a mortgage services
- 3:37company.
- 3:37And what I do here is I'm starting their 1st ever supplier diversity program.
- 3:41So it's like starting over again, but it's new and it's a challenge, and I kinda like puzzles.
- 3:48So it's a good space to be.
- 3:50Alright.
- 3:51So tell us what is supplier diversity and how can it benefit a small business?
- 3:55Okay.
- 3:56So supplier diversity is programs and initiatives that corporations are putting
- 4:03together in order to make an economic impact where we live, work and serve.
- 4:09Supplier Diversity is making sure that women, veteran, minority, and LGBTQ businesses have an
- 4:17equitable opportunity to bid on contracts.
- 4:22What does that mean?
- 4:23That means we are here to advocate for you.
- 4:29We are here to speak up and say, okay.
- 4:32You have this contract that's about to expire.
- 4:35Are we considering a woman, veteran, minority, or LGBTQ business?
- 4:39Are we making sure that our supply chain ecosystem is inclusive of diverse suppliers,
- 4:47small business and diverse suppliers, in all that we do.
- 4:53Now just for clarification, not every business that's small is diverse, and not every business
- 4:59that's diverse is small.
- 5:00And so what we do is we fight against those biases every day.
- 5:08It is a challenge, but it happens.
- 5:11Alright.
- 5:11So so how does one get in the like, how does one position themselves to be considered for an
- 5:18opportunity with a major Fortune 500 company?
- 5:20Like, how what do I got to do to do that?
- 5:23Well, there are so many different ways.
- 5:25So I'm gonna tell you the the the best ways.
- 5:27Okay.
- 5:28So here are the industry secrets.
- 5:301, make sure that you use your network properly.
- 5:36Your network is your network is how I describe it to most business owners.
- 5:41If you are certified by a local certifying agency, use that agency as a way to partner
- 5:50with the major corporations that you want to meet.
- 5:53How do you use them?
- 5:54You make sure that you show up at events, at networking events, at matchmaking events,
- 6:01virtual or in person, at conferences that those corporations are gonna be at so that you can
- 6:08start to build relationships.
- 6:11And then once you start to build those relationships, you gotta be patient.
- 6:16Please, please know that we know what's going on inside our walls and beyond our walls.
- 6:23We know what limitations we have, what sourcing opportunities are now, which is 2, 3 years from
- 6:31now.
- 6:32Sometimes we know, and sometimes we don't.
- 6:35So position yourself that you can meet the key stakeholders, the decision makers, and the
- 6:42advocates like me that will speak up for you when you're not in the room.
- 6:48Also, make sure that you contact those local agencies and that you contact them.
- 6:55You say, hey.
- 6:56I want to meet Sharon Minker from x y z company.
- 7:00How can I get in the room with her?
- 7:02And I have had people just call me.
- 7:04Hey.
- 7:05This person's been trying to reach you.
- 7:07Can you can you give me sure.
- 7:10So so we're like a family of people that, you know, no one really knew until after the
- 7:17pandemic or during the pandemic when people started saying supply chain.
- 7:20That's the only nobody knew what I did until the pandemic.
- 7:25Oh, nobody knew.
- 7:26Then every then everybody know, oh, you're the expert because you know how to get things in.
- 7:29We know how to make things happen because we keep the we grease the wheels and make sure
- 7:34that products get from a to z.
- 7:36But make sure you're using those partnerships, those connections, those networks, whether it
- 7:42is at an agency or even at a university that you went, attended, or somewhere that you
- 7:49volunteer, use those networks to build your, your, your advisory board of folks that will
- 7:57get you to other people.
- 7:58Right?
- 7:58Because you want to make those 6 degree connections with everyone to be able to get to
- 8:04what you need to do, but you also got to be patient because it's not going to always,
- 8:09always be as quick and easy and, like, social media.
- 8:13You know, I want something.
- 8:14I can type it in.
- 8:15It don't work that way in corporate America.
- 8:17It doesn't.
- 8:18It should
- 8:18be be patient.
- 8:19I once had a a a 6 year wait for a contract for a corporation.
- 8:24I'm not gonna tell you the name of it, but you you shop there.
- 8:27Anyway, so what here's the thing.
- 8:29Talk to me about, WeBank and NMSDC because those are like the largest certifying bodies
- 8:36that people may be more familiar with, but they're certainly state and local, you know,
- 8:42like the city of Philadelphia has 1, the state of Pennsylvania has 1, every state has 1.
- 8:46Right?
- 8:46But talk about NMSDC and WBENC because those are like nationwide certifications.
- 8:51Right?
- 8:52Yes.
- 8:52Alright.
- 8:53So in the certification world, I call it the alphabet soup, of acronyms because, you know,
- 8:58you MMSDC and EMSDC and it's just too much.
- 9:03Right?
- 9:03But here's the gist.
- 9:05For women owned businesses, WeBank, the Women Business Enterprise National Council, is the
- 9:12largest certifying body for women owned businesses nationally.
- 9:18WeBank has regional partner organizations, which are their affiliates that are regional
- 9:24around the country.
- 9:26Here in Philadelphia, you have WeBank East, which is Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and
- 9:30Delaware.
- 9:31K?
- 9:32Let's pause there.
- 9:34NMSDC is the National Minority Supplier Development Council.
- 9:39They are the national certifying body for minority owned businesses, and they have
- 9:46regional affiliates that are in different region.
- 9:50For this region, it is EMSDC, the Eastern Minority Supplier Development Council.
- 9:56So those 2 are for women and minorities.
- 10:01Then you have veterans.
- 10:03So you have MVDC and NABOBO.
- 10:07So those are the veteran certifying agencies.
- 10:10Oh, it gets better.
- 10:11Then you have the Asian American Pan Atlantic Council.
- 10:17So the US, PANACC.
- 10:22Right?
- 10:22Then you go to hell.
- 10:24So these are the national certifying bodies.
- 10:27And then you also have disability in for the, disabled person's own businesses.
- 10:34So those are the national.
- 10:36Those national certifications, once you have a certified certificate or letter of
- 10:41certification with those organizations, there are sometimes reciprocity agreements or fast
- 10:48track, in place that will get you a state level certification.
- 10:54Why is that important?
- 10:56Some corporations, just because you have your 3rd party certification, if they are doing work
- 11:03or a bid and they need subcontractors for a state or local city contract, you also have to
- 11:12already be in their state or city directory and have that certification in there.
- 11:20So the reciprocity really, really counts when it comes to that, because I would have
- 11:27suppliers come and they say, oh, but I'm certified in the state of New Jersey.
- 11:33I'm like, oh, that's nice, but this is a Pennsylvania bid.
- 11:35Sorry.
- 11:36I I can't help you.
- 11:37Like, I and and this is just like that.
- 11:39And I would remind them, like, all you gotta do is take that same paperwork, push that button,
- 11:46and and do that process.
- 11:48And a lot of times, it is a lot of paperwork to get certified.
- 11:52However, the value proposition for getting your certification, for having your business
- 11:58documents already there and together for making sure that you can say I am woman owned or I am
- 12:04minority owned or I am veteran owned, carries weight.
- 12:09Now it also can backfire, so I'm gonna tell you both scenarios.
- 12:14Okay?
- 12:15When it carries weight as a a value add, that is important.
- 12:21Right?
- 12:22Because what you want to be able to do is showcase what solutions you have that can bring
- 12:30innovation and cost savings to whatever corporation you wanna partner with, then bring
- 12:35your certification as the value add.
- 12:38On the flip side, when you have different corporations that are looking to do business
- 12:42with more minority owned, more women owned, or because that is in their region or that is what
- 12:49their customer base is emulating, that's when it you use it on the flip side.
- 12:56I understand.
- 12:56You they're they're never gonna give you a contract just because you got a certification.
- 12:59That's
- 13:00Pretty much.
- 13:00Pretty pretty much.
- 13:01That's just
- 13:02on the table.
- 13:03It still gotta be people that are faster no matter what certification you got.
- 13:07Right?
- 13:07Absolutely.
- 13:07You gotta be able to deliver, and you gotta be able to meet the insurance requirements.
- 13:10You gotta be able to pass risk management.
- 13:12You gotta be able to make sure that you are going to deliver.
- 13:16And then, oh, yay.
- 13:17You're certified.
- 13:18Thank you.
- 13:19Right.
- 13:20Right.
- 13:21Alright, miss Sharon.
- 13:22Tell us what is the best business advice that you have ever been given.
- 13:27The best business advice I've ever been given.
- 13:33I'm gonna say it's to fail forward.
- 13:38I listened to a podcast maybe about 6 or 8 months ago from, Caroline Wonga from Essence,
- 13:46And she did this whole series on 7 fails a day, and it stuck to me.
- 13:53And it spoke to me because if you do something that don't work, you keep on.
- 13:59Just just just try something else.
- 14:01If you you wanna do this and it don't work, just try something else.
- 14:04I I published my first book.
- 14:06I didn't know what I was doing.
- 14:07I self published it.
- 14:08I just was watching TikToks, and I learned some from TikTok, and I figured out how
- 14:12to publish my book first book.
- 14:14And I was like, well, that was alright.
- 14:17I'm a try it again.
- 14:18And I I learned from that mistake from those mistakes.
- 14:21It's still doing well.
- 14:23And and I published my first children's book last year.
- 14:25So it was like, yeah.
- 14:27You know what?
- 14:27I did that.
- 14:27Well, now I wanna do this fiction book.
- 14:30So you you keep going.
- 14:31My whole thing is I want to be able to say if I were to leave here today or tomorrow, well
- 14:38done, well done, thy good and faithful servant.
- 14:40If you saw somebody that needed help, you did it.
- 14:43If you saw a student that needed information, you gave it.
- 14:46And if you saw a business owner that needed some growth, you figured out an opportunity or
- 14:50resource for them.
- 14:52I love that.
- 14:53I love that.
- 14:53And I love you.
- 14:54So I appreciate that so much.
- 14:57Thank you so much.
- 14:58That was so helpful and so compact.
- 15:00And I appreciate that.
- 15:07Thanks for listening to the smallbiz chat succeed as your own boss.com.
- 15:28Thanks again for listening, and we'll see you next week.